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Japanese media: Russia's influence in the post-Soviet space is shaken

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The former Soviet republics, which Russia considers its zone of influence, have become turbulent this year. There was a wave of incidents that largely destabilized the situation near the Russian borders.


The Japanese television and radio company NHK drew attention to this.

The wave of protests that arose in August against the results of the presidential elections in Belarus continues to this day. In Kyrgyzstan, after the parliamentary elections, protesters began to seize state institutions. In Moldova, the new president, having won the elections, has taken a sharp course towards strengthening ties with the European Union and weakening cooperation with Russia.

Moreover, the Armenian-Azerbaijani conflict over Nagorno-Karabakh, which had been smoldering for several decades, turned into a full-scale war this year.

Earlier, the question of Russia's allegedly "weakened influence" in the post-Soviet space was also touched upon by other Japanese media, trying to link this issue with the possibility of "intensifying dialogue" on the Kuril Islands. Hokkaido Shimbun has recently been actively discussing the need for "active negotiations with Moscow in connection with the political situation in the world."

It is difficult to grasp the connection between all these events, if it exists. The Japanese media claim that all these cases indicate that Russia's influence in the post-Soviet space has been shaken.

This is unlikely to be true, although the incidents that occurred almost simultaneously in the Russian neighbors may indicate that in recent years Moscow has paid insufficient attention to the processes taking place in the near abroad. But one cannot fail to notice that some events weakened Russia's influence, while others, on the contrary, strengthened it. Of course, Moldova is definitely turning its back on Moscow. But, on the other hand, the events that happened to Belarus and Armenia, countries that began to gradually "drift" in the western direction, led them to closer cooperation with Russia.

Therefore, one can hardly agree with the conclusions of the Japanese journalists. Of course, life in the post-Soviet space has become much less stable, but it is still impossible to talk about the loss of Russia's influence on its closest neighbors.
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  1. svp67
    svp67 21 December 2020 09: 31
    +24
    "Staggered" ?????? This is very mildly put ... This influence has been flying into Tartarar not for the first decade, since the collapse of the USSR, but in Russia it began to be "noticed" only since 2014 ...
    1. Temples
      Temples 21 December 2020 09: 32
      +7
      it is still impossible to talk about the loss of Russia's influence on its closest neighbors.


      Why not?

      Can.

      You can say whatever your heart desires.

      And there is no influence at all. There are economic ties. There is a geographical neighborhood.

      There is an unfounded confidence of our "elites" in relation to the former - "where will they go?"

      And then, bang out of the blue - the Maidans and Russophobia.
      1. svp67
        svp67 21 December 2020 09: 33
        +6
        Quote: Temples
        You can say anything.

        What's the use of talking. The job must be done as multifaceted and tough as possible ...
        1. Temples
          Temples 21 December 2020 09: 41
          +3
          Quote: svp67
          This influence has been flying to Tartarar for more than a decade, since the collapse of the USSR,

          Amendment
          - since the formation of the USSR.
          It was at this time that "new centuries-old countries" were born - Kyrgyzstan, Ukraine, Kazakhstan and all other fragments of the Empire.
          The invented constitutions of these republics laid down self-determination and the possibility of secession from the Union.

          Until we deny this fact, we will not be able to return the Russian lands.
          1. tatra
            tatra 21 December 2020 09: 50
            0
            Yes, enough nonsense to carry, and cowardly kick out of responsibility for the fact that you, the enemies of the USSR, divided the USSR among yourself into separate States. And if the communists and their supporters in the republics of the USSR and the countries of Eastern Europe after World War II coexisted calmly and peacefully, then after you captured the republics of the USSR and the countries of Eastern Europe, you unleashed vicious information wars against the communists and their supporters, you hate both them and your friend friend.
            1. Lech from Android.
              Lech from Android. 21 December 2020 09: 56
              +12
              Irina, as always, in her role ... smile
              The world is divided into communists and non-communists ... whoever is not with the communists is the enemy of the people.
              There is no layer between communists and non-communists ... only black and white. And therefore everyone should be communists.smile

              Well, you can't simplify everything to the limit.
              1. aleksejkabanets
                aleksejkabanets 21 December 2020 10: 15
                +4
                Quote: Lech from Android.
                There is no layer between communists and non-communists ..

                Irina is partly right. There are those who put the public above the personal and those who put their selfish interests above the interests of society.
                1. svp67
                  svp67 21 December 2020 10: 59
                  +9
                  Quote: aleksejkabanets
                  There are those who put the public above the personal and those who put their selfish interests above the interests of society.

                  Where is it? Who is this? Are there such people among the communists?
                  1. aleksejkabanets
                    aleksejkabanets 21 December 2020 11: 08
                    -3
                    Quote: svp67
                    Where is it? Who is this? Are there such people among the communists?

                    And not only among the communists. Didn't Alexander Matrosov put the public above the personal? Didn't Ivan Susanin put the public above the personal? And how many unknown people did the same thing in everyday life?
                    1. svp67
                      svp67 21 December 2020 11: 35
                      +5
                      Quote: aleksejkabanets
                      And not only among the communists.

                      But still, what about the communists? Here is the First Secretary of the Communist Party of Ukraine, a member of the Politburo of the CPSU Kravchuk, whose interests in Belovezhskaya Pushcha did he support?
                      And what about a member of the Communist Party of Russia, Grudinin, a millionaire and owner of "ships, steamers", whose interests he puts in the first place by withdrawing capital to the Cyprus offshore?
                      1. aleksejkabanets
                        aleksejkabanets 21 December 2020 11: 49
                        0
                        Quote: svp67
                        But still, what about the communists? Here is the First Secretary of the Communist Party of Ukraine, a member of the Politburo of the CPSU Kravchuk ...

                        Vlasov was the same communist, and General Karbyshev. Why did you write this? What did you want to say?
                        Quote: svp67
                        A member of the Communist Party of Russia Grudinin

                        He is not a member of the Communist Party, as far as I know. I don’t want to talk about him, I don’t know anything about him.
                      2. svp67
                        svp67 21 December 2020 11: 53
                        +4
                        Quote: aleksejkabanets
                        Vlasov was the same communist, and General Karbyshev. Why did you write this? What did you want to say?

                        And to the fact that calling yourself a communist and being one are two different things ...
                      3. aleksejkabanets
                        aleksejkabanets 21 December 2020 11: 59
                        +6
                        Quote: svp67
                        And to the fact that calling yourself a communist and being one are two different things ...

                        I absolutely agree with you. On the fence, sometimes, a lot of what they write.
                      4. Vladimir Mashkov
                        Vladimir Mashkov 21 December 2020 20: 26
                        +1
                        Funny, these Japanese! They have a dream that Russia will someday weaken, and they will take "their" islands. But they can't stand it! Right now they have a quirk that, since it is restless in the Russian limitrophes, "Russia is shaken." Let's urgently "intensify the dialogue on the Kuril Islands"! Combination...
                        For the Japanese - from three fingers! laughing
                      5. Alex777
                        Alex777 21 December 2020 23: 50
                        +1
                        In my opinion you are right. Why minus - I do not understand. drinks
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                      7. Vladimir Mashkov
                        Vladimir Mashkov 22 December 2020 10: 46
                        +1
                        Quote: Alex777
                        In my opinion you are right. Why minus - I do not understand. drinks

                        And this is just a reaction to their nickname and avatar. There is no need to look for meaning. We are not looking for meaning in the reaction of a bull to a red rag! lol
              2. Temples
                Temples 21 December 2020 12: 20
                +1
                Lovers of communism are believers who replaced Christ with an idol.
                A communist in their concept is a saint! Sinless creature.
                Since man is sinful by nature, a communist is not even a man.

                Quote: svp67
                Didn't Alexander Matrosov put the public above the personal? Didn't Ivan Susanin put


                Ivan Susanin was definitely not a communist.
                The sailors and all the other millions of people who gave their lives for the victory were ordinary Russian people. Russian means people living in the Russian world, according to Russian traditions.

                All these people gave their lives not for the state, but for the lives of their children, wives, and mothers. For what we call family. For what we call Motherland. Homeland from the word genus.

                This is not public, not state.
                This is very personal.
                There is nothing closer.
                It is for this that they give their lives.
              3. aleksejkabanets
                aleksejkabanets 21 December 2020 12: 32
                +1
                Quote: Temples
                Lovers of communism are believers who replaced Christ with an idol.
                A communist in their concept is a saint! Sinless creature.
                Since man is sinful by nature, a communist is not even a man.

                You have some kind of perverted concept of the communists.
                Quote: Temples
                Ivan Susanin was definitely not a communist.
                The sailors and all the other millions of people who gave their lives for the victory were ordinary Russian people. Russian means people living in the Russian world, according to Russian traditions.

                Have you read how our conversation began? Or so, get in and that's it? It was about the fact that the public should be higher than the personal. There are examples to this. Your far-fetched nationalism is inappropriate. Khanpasha Nuradilovich Nuradilov or Idrisov Abukhadzhi were Russian people and lived according to Russian laws? No, they were Soviet people who knew how to put the public above the personal.
              4. Temples
                Temples 21 December 2020 12: 38
                -4
                Quote: aleksejkabanets
                it was about the fact that the public should be higher than the personal.

                Seriously?
                Give your wife to society.
                And do not forget to transfer your apartment, car, dacha, whatever else you have there.
                And don't forget to give your salary to the community. Every penny, so that the personal does not rise above the public.

                Communism from the word commune.
                You have created an illusion in your head.

                Don't lie to yourself and don't consider other people more stupid than yourself.

                And finally
                - what is society?
                - what is family?

                What is your family or community? For whom do you personally live?
              5. aleksejkabanets
                aleksejkabanets 21 December 2020 13: 05
                +2
                Quote: Temples
                What is your family or community? For whom do you personally live?

                First, educated people use the word "you" when addressing strangers. I live, not only for myself, but also for my family and children, an important part of my life is community work, which is not paid by the way.
                Quote: Temples
                Seriously?
                Give your wife to society.
                And do not forget to transfer your apartment, car, dacha, whatever else you have there.
                And don't forget to give your salary to the community. Every penny, so that the personal does not rise above the public.

                What kind of nonsense did you write? Did you understand what you said? You probably don't understand the difference between personal and public interests? Did you go to school at all?
                Quote: Temples
                Communism from the word commune.
                You have created an illusion in your head.

                Captain obvious? Why did you write this?
                Quote: Temples
                Don't lie to yourself and don't consider other people more stupid than yourself.

                I understand that for some animals, such as Vlasov and the like, their selfish interests turned out to be more important than the public interests. Are you one of them?
                Quote: Temples
                And finally
                - what is society?
                - what is family?

                Banned on Google? Are you sure that I have to educate you in this? Can you read it yourself, or is it difficult for you?
          2. svp67
            svp67 21 December 2020 12: 36
            0
            Everything is clear, except for one thing, when did I say that?
            Quote: Temples
            Quote: svp67
            Didn't Alexander Matrosov put the public above the personal? Didn't Ivan Susanin put

            Have you confused the authorship?
        2. Alex777
          Alex777 21 December 2020 23: 53
          0
          In 2010 he left United Russia [15].

          In 2011 he was nominated for the elections to the Moscow Regional Duma of the 5th convocation from the Communist Party according to the party list, heading the regional group No. 9, and in the Leninsky single-mandate district No. 9. On October 31, 2011, a month before the elections, the magazine "Russian Reporter" published an article about the state farm named after Lenin and its head Pavel Grudinin under the title "Palnikolaich named after Lenin", and it mainly talked about Grudinin's business - "2000 hectares of golden land near Moscow, where, contrary to all the laws of the market, agriculture is still really being conducted." Grudinin's competitors from United Russia appealed to the Moscow Regional Court, which in November 2011 saw signs of extremism in an interview and canceled the candidate's registration [9] [16]. This registration decision was canceled only a few years later by the RF Supreme Court [17]. In December 2012, the Savyolovsky District Court of Moscow recognized the distortion of the meaning of the fragments of the interview and the words of the interviewee, but Pavel Grudinin was temporarily banned from participating as a candidate for elective positions, in connection with which he was denied registration in 2013 at the elections to the Leninsky Council of Deputies municipal district of the VI convocation in a single-mandate constituency number 14 [9].

          September 18, 2016 Grudinin ran for the State Duma of the Russian Federation of the VII convocation from the Communist Party of the Russian Federation according to the party list (the ninth number in the regional group No. 27, Moscow region) and in the Lyubertsy single-mandate constituency № 121 (Moscow region), but did not pass on the results of the distribution of deputy mandates. In a single-mandate constituency, he took second place (13,14%) [9]. Since 2017 - Chairman of the Council of Deputies of the urban settlement Vidnoe [14], was not elected as a member of the list of the Communist Party.
      2. polar fox
        polar fox 21 December 2020 12: 34
        +2
        Quote: svp67
        But still, what about the communists?

        not worth confusing communists and party members ... members are members and remained.
    2. Alex777
      Alex777 21 December 2020 23: 49
      0
      Didn't Alexander Matrosov put the public above the personal?

      Are you sure you know all the circumstances of this example?
      1. aleksejkabanets
        aleksejkabanets 22 December 2020 00: 15
        +1
        Quote: Alex777
        Are you sure you know all the circumstances of this example?

        Tell me, does it have any meaning in the context of this dispute? Just as an example of self-sacrifice, this feat is indicative (even if it is mythologized).
      2. Alex777
        Alex777 22 December 2020 00: 20
        0
        I managed to work in the district committee of the Komsomol.
        And go to the village of Kryukovo to harvest. The same one. From a song.
        Local residents told a lot about this story.
        We didn't even ask them.
        They talked about the weapons of the fighters. And about the detachment too.
        This was all during the most Soviet times. There were no intrigues then. hi
  • Catfish
    Catfish 21 December 2020 10: 26
    -7
    Well, you can't simplify everything to the limit.


    And it's easier for them to live, life is divided into black and white, and no shades. Either you are for Chapay, or go out of our sandbox. For how many years these blockheads have been stepping on the same rake, and the current is zero - the skull is impenetrable. They brought the Union with this impenetrability to disaster, but still again - "how much money for a fish." And, of course, it is not they themselves who are to blame for everything, but external and internal enemies, tama "striped naglo-Saxons", and mulberries "crustaceans" and "Russophobes". Ugh, they are tired of worse than a bitter radish with their zamuldrynstvo.
  • LiSiCyn
    LiSiCyn 21 December 2020 11: 12
    +4
    Quote: Lech from Android.
    .only white and black

    White and Red ... wink
    Quote: svp67
    There are those who put the public above the personal and those who put their selfish interests above the interests of society.

    Where is it? Who is this? Are there such people among the communists?

    good Full of.
  • DymOk_v_dYmke
    DymOk_v_dYmke 21 December 2020 12: 12
    0
    Quote: Lech from Android.
    Irina, as always, in her role ...
    The world is divided into communists and non-communists ... whoever is not with the communists is the enemy of the people.

    And rightly so.
    The minimum number of conflicts between the former socialist republics and countries is largely due to the commonality of their social system, which does not imply the robbery of everyone and everything.
    Anti-communism, anti-Sovietism and "liberal values" are just a fig leaf to cover up individual greed.
    Quote: Lech from Android.
    There is no layer between communists and non-communists ... only black and white. And therefore everyone should be communists.

    What layer can there be between a boa constrictor and a rabbit?

    PS Long ago: "If you don't win openly, you need to lead ...". This was done in the 90s by the Trotskyists in the third generation who donned the "communist skin".
    A serious question for the future is the timely diagnosis of "dressing up".
    Without this diagnosis, any return is doomed to relapse.
  • svp67
    svp67 21 December 2020 10: 02
    +10
    Quote: tatra
    Stop talking nonsense, and cowardly discard responsibility for the fact that you, enemies of the USSR

    It was already scary, but who are these "YOU"? Explain who you are so stigmatizing, or else the people are in bewilderment and fear ...
    1. Lech from Android.
      Lech from Android. 21 December 2020 10: 07
      -3
      Explain who you are so stigmatizing, or else the people are in bewilderment and fear ...

      We put the revolver on the table and everyone who needs to understand ... whom and how to love.
    2. tatra
      tatra 21 December 2020 10: 07
      +1
      Those who divided the USSR among themselves made the dismemberment of the USSR their main state holiday, and every year it is celebrated under the spell of "freedom and independence." And I'm tired of the trolls. If you have something to refute my words - go ahead, no - torment Claudia.
      1. svp67
        svp67 21 December 2020 10: 13
        +7
        Quote: tatra
        If you have something to refute my words - go ahead, no - torment Claudia.

        Yes, the choice is not rich ... I'll probably choose three times, so as not to torment "Klava" or Irina ...
      2. Lech from Android.
        Lech from Android. 21 December 2020 10: 17
        +2
        And I'm tired of the trolls. If you have something to refute my words - go ahead, no - torment Claudia.

        And I am delighted with you Irina ... how good it is that our capitalist society has stubborn communists who believe in the ideals of communism. hi
        The eternal struggle between materialism and ideas (or spirituality) ... only the Lord God knows who will win in the end.
        1. DymOk_v_dYmke
          DymOk_v_dYmke 21 December 2020 12: 25
          +1
          Quote: Lech from Android.
          The eternal struggle between materialism and ideas (or spirituality) ... only the Lord God knows who will win in the end.

          The Lord God in materialism is nature with its laws.
          It is a pity for those who do not understand this. hi
      3. Catfish
        Catfish 21 December 2020 10: 29
        +3
        Sorry, but I can't seriously argue with children, and to refute deliberate nonsense is Sisyphean work.
  • aleksejkabanets
    aleksejkabanets 21 December 2020 10: 13
    +3
    Quote: tatra
    Stop talking nonsense ...

    Congratulations to Irina on the "gold border". You are absolutely right Irina, a full-fledged mutually beneficial partnership in the post-Soviet space is possible only with a socialist socio-economic formation.
    1. svp67
      svp67 21 December 2020 10: 19
      +6
      Quote: aleksejkabanets
      full-fledged mutually beneficial partnership in the post-Soviet space is possible only under a socialist socio-economic formation.

      Which, alas, has not been proven in practice ...
      1. aleksejkabanets
        aleksejkabanets 21 December 2020 10: 28
        -2
        Quote: svp67
        Which, alas, has not been proven in practice ...

        Are you saying that under the USSR there was no full-fledged and mutually beneficial partnership between the republics? Only myths about feeding Central Asia or Ukraine do not write here please. Leave them to the current "USE generation".
        1. svp67
          svp67 21 December 2020 10: 38
          +4
          Quote: aleksejkabanets
          Are you saying that under the USSR there was no full-fledged and mutually beneficial partnership between the republics?

          No, it was not.
          Quote: aleksejkabanets
          Only myths about feeding Central Asia or Ukraine do not write here please.

          I won't talk about Ukraine, but the republics of Central Asia and Transcaucasia not so much "fed", but developed to the detriment of the same RSFSR ...
          1. aleksejkabanets
            aleksejkabanets 21 December 2020 10: 57
            -4
            Quote: svp67
            I won't talk about Ukraine, but the republics of Central Asia and Transcaucasia not so much "fed", but developed to the detriment of the same RSFSR ...

            Tell me, when you build a common house for your large family, do you "develop" your rooms at the expense of children's rooms? The very statement of the question is simply wrong. I lived in Uzbekistan, my father worked at a chemical plant. The indigenous population almost did not work there, mainly due to the lack of educated people. Today in Uzbekistan the authorities talk about the "colonial oppression of the Uzbeks" under the USSR. The national question, in most cases, is just a weapon in the hands of the ruling class to achieve its mercantile goals and nothing more.
            1. svp67
              svp67 21 December 2020 11: 03
              +4
              Quote: aleksejkabanets
              The very statement of the question is simply wrong.

              Yes, I agree that not only were the questions put incorrectly, but the answers to them were also incorrect.
              You yourself answered how the development of the same republics went ...
              Quote: aleksejkabanets
              I lived in Uzbekistan, my father worked at a chemical plant. The indigenous population almost did not work there, mainly due to the lack of educated people.

              Or maybe it was worth the funds and, most importantly, the human resource that was sent there from the RSFSR to use within the same RSFSR. Now they would not "scratch their heads" how to move the production capacities that Russia needs in independent countries that are not used.
            2. aleksejkabanets
              aleksejkabanets 21 December 2020 11: 14
              +1
              Quote: svp67
              Or maybe it was worth the funds and, most importantly, the human resource that was sent there from the RSFSR to use within the same RSFSR.

              The USSR, after all, consisted not only of the RSFSR, from other republics the same went a lot that was not in the RSFSR. Today the oligarchs have taken the republics into their own pockets. Have we, ordinary people, Russians, Ukrainians, Uzbeks got better? For me, so all together, in one state, life was much better.
            3. svp67
              svp67 21 December 2020 11: 28
              +6
              Quote: aleksejkabanets
              from other republics, the same thing came that was not in the RSFSR.

              It's hard to deny this, but it went on ... but in smaller volumes than they received from the RSFSR.
              Quote: aleksejkabanets
              For me, all together, in one state, life was much better.

              This is even more difficult to dispute. But still there will be one caveat. The majority of the population, but there is also a minority, who only get better from the collapse, they still dream of breaking up Russia into small principalities ...
            4. aleksejkabanets
              aleksejkabanets 21 December 2020 11: 42
              +2
              Quote: svp67
              they still dream of breaking up Russia into small principalities ...

              It is, if they get the result we all don't like it, to put it mildly.
    2. DymOk_v_dYmke
      DymOk_v_dYmke 21 December 2020 12: 32
      -1
      Quote: svp67
      I won't talk about Ukraine, but the republics of Central Asia and Transcaucasia not so much "fed", but developed to the detriment of the same RSFSR ...

      That is why now the Transcaucasia and the RSFSR are rapidly developing, losing on the run the last scraps of industry, health care, education, the most common sense in their existence. hi
  • LiSiCyn
    LiSiCyn 21 December 2020 11: 24
    +5
    Quote: aleksejkabanets
    Congratulations to Irina on the "gold border".

    "For Obstinacy".
    Quote: aleksejkabanets
    full-fledged mutually beneficial partnership in the post-Soviet space is possible only under a socialist socio-economic formation.

    Monarchism, not ...? what
    1. aleksejkabanets
      aleksejkabanets 21 December 2020 11: 44
      +2
      Quote: LiSiCyn
      Monarchism, not ...?

      Will the majority of the country's population like the class division?
      1. LiSiCyn
        LiSiCyn 21 December 2020 12: 04
        +1
        Quote: aleksejkabanets
        Will the majority of the country's population like the class division?

        Isn't he? Divisions ...
        Quote: aleksejkabanets
        The indigenous population almost did not work there, mainly due to the lack of educated people.

        Not dividing ...?
        1. aleksejkabanets
          aleksejkabanets 21 December 2020 12: 22
          +1
          Quote: LiSiCyn
          Isn't he? Divisions ...

          Yes, it remains only to be legislated. Are you agitating for this, or have I misunderstood you?
          Quote: LiSiCyn
          Not dividing ...?

          Not division, education was available to any citizen of the USSR. In the Armavir ped, the inhabitants of Central Asia were taken generally according to the quota without exams, in fact. You have forgotten exactly what happened in Central Asia before the Soviet regime.
          1. LiSiCyn
            LiSiCyn 21 December 2020 12: 31
            +2
            Quote: aleksejkabanets
            You have forgotten exactly what happened in Central Asia before the Soviet regime.

            No, I haven't forgotten. I was born and raised in Alma-Ata. Left in the 98th. So that....
            Before the Soviet power and in Russia there was no fountain with the formation.
            Quote: aleksejkabanets
            Are you agitating for this, or have I misunderstood you?

            I am not campaigning. I'm thinking... laughing hi
  • Tatyana
    Tatyana 21 December 2020 09: 51
    +3
    Japanese media: Russia's influence in the post-Soviet space is shaken

    The Japanese, revanchistically engaged with the expected return from Russia of their so-called. "Northern Territories" - 4 islands, the entire Kuril ridge, half of Sakhalin, etc. - can not but rejoice at the state of destabilization, thanks to the intervention of the West, in the former Soviet republics neighboring Russia.
    At the same time, the Japanese can't wait, they sleep and dream of the weakening of Russia!
    1. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
      Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 21 December 2020 09: 58
      -3
      Quote: Tatiana
      half of Sakhalin, etc.

      the Japanese do not claim any half of Sakhalin.
      1. Tatyana
        Tatyana 21 December 2020 09: 59
        +3
        Quote: Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
        the Japanese do not claim any half of Sakhalin

        They pretend, but not immediately and not now.
        1. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
          Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 21 December 2020 10: 00
          +3
          Quote: Tatiana
          but not immediately and not now.

          and not the Japanese. And not half. And not Sakhalin.
      2. Lech from Android.
        Lech from Android. 21 December 2020 10: 00
        +4
        the Japanese do not claim any half of Sakhalin.

        The soul of the late Emperor Hiroshito demands territory to the Urals ... the Japanese in their hearts agree with him.
        1. Catfish
          Catfish 21 December 2020 10: 33
          +4
          He has not a soul, but a samurai spirit, plus the Bushido code, if I'm not mistaken.
          Anyway, it is unrealistic to demand something from someone without a powerful Japanese navy. True, we have with the fleet too, how to put it ...
          But both have China at their side.
  • Civil
    Civil 21 December 2020 09: 53
    +9
    I must admit the influence has decreased, the reasons are simple:
    1. There is no attractive idea from Moscow.
    2. Economic decline is visible primarily to neighbors.
    3. The Foreign Ministry is very weak, Lavrov is already aged and tired. And he has no room for maneuver due to sanctions and toxicity.
    1. Lech from Android.
      Lech from Android. 21 December 2020 10: 02
      -1
      1. There is no attractive idea from Moscow.
      2. Economic decline is visible primarily to neighbors.
      3. The Foreign Ministry is very weak, Lavrov is already aged and tired. And he has no room for maneuver due to sanctions and toxicity.

      So the West has nothing to offer except a parade of perverts in moral terms ... the world is rotting ... maybe the Chinese will throw something fresh.
      They will inspire the world to new achievements of the human spirit.
      1. Civil
        Civil 21 December 2020 10: 08
        0
        Quote: Lech from Android.
        So the West has nothing to offer except a parade of perverts in moral terms ... the world is rotting ... maybe the Chinese will throw something fresh.
        They will inspire the world to new achievements of the human spirit.

        They sell not fresh, but attractive idea of ​​"freedom, equality and fraternity" and printed candy wrappers. Well, everything is known in comparison, the average income in the Russian Federation fell to the African level.
        1. Lech from Android.
          Lech from Android. 21 December 2020 10: 11
          +2
          Well, everything is known in comparison, the average income in the Russian Federation fell to the African level.
          Previously, the people endured hardships for the sake of a bright communist future ... but now this is a bright future in some kind of fog ... where are we striving? ... where are we going? ... To Heaven or Hell ... God knows. what
          1. Civil
            Civil 21 December 2020 10: 17
            +5
            Quote: Lech from Android.
            Previously, the people endured hardships for the sake of a brighter future ... but now it is a bright future in some kind of fog ... where are we striving? ... where are we going? ... To Heaven or Hell ... God knows.

            You will laugh, but here I was talking to the students the other day, they sincerely believe that removing one person from power - everything will change, I had to tell how the entire nomenclature passed through the CPSU (Komsomol) - Democratic choice - our home Russia - Fatherland - Unity - United Russia. Only the plates were twisted. Were shocked. Let's go to study autobiographies. request
            1. Lech from Android.
              Lech from Android. 21 December 2020 10: 28
              +2
              Youth is our future ... to be honest, I can’t imagine what attitudes to put into the heads of young guys as an idea for which you can go to hardships.
              After all, millions of our citizens in the USSR worked and sacrificed their lives for the sake of an understandable goal ... equality, brotherhood and a decent life ... in the end what did they come to? Everything collapsed overnight. Why was it necessary to destroy the house they were creating?
              Many old people live on a beggarly pension and this is the result of their entire life.
              Young people see all this and it is difficult now to demand from young people to follow the path of hardship and suffering.
              1. New Year day
                New Year day 21 December 2020 11: 40
                +7
                Quote: Lech from Android.
                Youth is our future ... to be honest, I can’t imagine what attitudes to put into the heads of young guys as an idea for which you can go to hardships.

                and what idea can the state offer them?

                All - "by yourself"
            2. Roman070280
              Roman070280 21 December 2020 10: 30
              0
              they sincerely believe that removing one person from power will change everything,

              Removing is only half the battle ..
              The rest will depend on whom to put later.
              1. Civil
                Civil 21 December 2020 10: 38
                +3
                Quote: Roman070280
                Removing is only half the battle ..
                The rest will depend on whom to put later.

                And you are an optimist. The new one will also have friends, relatives, greed, ambition.
                1. Alex777
                  Alex777 22 December 2020 00: 04
                  0
                  But the new one will not have a mother, who almost died of hunger during the blockade, and a brother who died of hunger.
                2. Civil
                  Civil 22 December 2020 07: 30
                  0
                  Quote: Alex777
                  But the new one will not have a mother, who almost died of hunger during the blockade, and a brother who died of hunger.

                  You already know the biography, can you tell her name and surname? lol
        2. Roman070280
          Roman070280 21 December 2020 10: 28
          0
          . where are we striving? ... what are we going to? ... To Heaven or Hell ... God knows.

          Why is it so modest ..
          There is definitely no heaven on the horizon for us.
          In the new year, the nuts will only tighten, and the hardships will intensify .. I have no doubt about that ..
          1. Lech from Android.
            Lech from Android. 21 December 2020 10: 38
            +2
            In the new year, the nuts will only tighten, and the hardships will intensify .. I have no doubt about that ..

            Well, they just spoiled the New Year's mood ... I read all the innovations of our government ... it's bad at heart from their work. hi
            They are going along the path of tightening and prohibitions and no fresh thoughts and ideas on how to improve our society ... sad gentlemen ... this is a dead end.
            1. Alex777
              Alex777 22 December 2020 00: 05
              0
              You are visiting the wrong sites. wink
        3. Doccor18
          Doccor18 21 December 2020 10: 43
          +2
          Quote: Lech from Android.
          Well, everything is known in comparison, the average income in the Russian Federation fell to the African level.
          Previously, the people endured hardships for the sake of a bright communist future ... but now this is a bright future in some kind of fog ... where are we striving?

          And now they work for days, at two jobs, in order to afford "little capitalist pranks": an apartment on a mortgage, a car on credit and a trip to Turkey ...
          1. Lech from Android.
            Lech from Android. 21 December 2020 11: 09
            +1
            They work for days, at two jobs, to allow themselves "little capitalist pranks": an apartment on a mortgage, a car on credit and a trip to Turkey ...

            Here, whoever is lucky ... a person takes a loan and after a while loses his job or health ... and banks do not like those who delay the payment of a loan and another soap opera about human suffering begins.
            1. Doccor18
              Doccor18 21 December 2020 11: 18
              +3
              Then whoever is lucky ...

              With luck in the cap world it should always be good, because without luck it will be really bad recourse
      2. Igoresha
        Igoresha 21 December 2020 10: 52
        -3
        fell to the African level.
        egage, the minimum wage is lower than the Ukrainian official
      3. DymOk_v_dYmke
        DymOk_v_dYmke 21 December 2020 12: 50
        0
        Will the speed of a dismembered car carried in parts by guest workers be great?
        Will the comfort of its former passengers increase or decrease?
        Will their confidence grow. that they will at least get somewhere?
        You need to collect. On a workable basis. On the socialist.
    2. Svarog
      Svarog 21 December 2020 10: 18
      +3
      maybe the Chinese will throw something fresh.

      The Chinese will not plant anything. We have our own successful experience in building socialism ..
      It should be implemented, as amended ..
      1. Lech from Android.
        Lech from Android. 21 December 2020 10: 32
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        We have our own successful experience in building socialism ..
        It also needs to be implemented, as amended

        There is ... just who will implement it?
        The idea must take possession of the masses and then it becomes a material force and there must be a party capable of controlling the masses ... like Lenin talked about this many years ago, but it is still relevant.
        1. Svarog
          Svarog 21 December 2020 10: 36
          +3
          Quote: Lech from Android.
          The idea must take possession of the masses and then it becomes a material force and there must be a party capable of controlling the masses ... like Lenin talked about this many years ago, but it is still relevant.

          Who will implement it, it's over a big question .. Considering that power is usurped and in the same hands .. Platoshkin wanted to implement it, but a criminal case was opened.
          1. Lech from Android.
            Lech from Android. 21 December 2020 10: 50
            0
            Platoshkin wanted to implement it, but a criminal case was opened.

            In Platoshkin, he alone decided to fight the windmills ... Don Quixote ... our state law enforcement system swept him away in the pre-trial detention center like a speck of dust.
            Likely to share the fate of Kvachkov. hi
    3. Doccor18
      Doccor18 21 December 2020 10: 39
      +5
      Quote: Lech from Android.
      1. There is no attractive idea from Moscow.
      2. Economic decline is visible primarily to neighbors.
      3. The Foreign Ministry is very weak, Lavrov is already aged and tired. And he has no room for maneuver due to sanctions and toxicity.

      ..the world is rotting ... maybe the Chinese will throw something fresh.

      The Chinese will "throw up", but only the Chinese will like it ...
  • aleksejkabanets
    aleksejkabanets 21 December 2020 10: 08
    +2
    Quote: svp67
    What's the use of talking. The job must be done as multifaceted and tough as possible ...

    What exactly do you propose to do?
    1. New Year day
      New Year day 21 December 2020 11: 44
      +2
      Quote: aleksejkabanets
      What exactly do you propose to do?

      the trouble is that opponents cannot offer anything in response except "minuses". Wait for an answer, wait for an answer ...
      1. aleksejkabanets
        aleksejkabanets 21 December 2020 11: 52
        0
        hi
        Quote: Silvestr
        the trouble is that opponents cannot offer anything in response except "minuses". Wait for an answer, wait for an answer ...

        This is yes. I think so, "do what you must and be what will be," I don't know who said that.
  • Mykhalych
    Mykhalych 21 December 2020 10: 09
    +3
    Quote: svp67
    Deed must be done and as possible multifaceted and tougher.

    Do not make it clear how it is, that something somehow resembles exquisite perversity, even to imagine the imagination is not enough ... With my something Soviet education request
  • New Year day
    New Year day 21 December 2020 10: 15
    +3
    Quote: svp67
    The job must be done as multifaceted and tough as possible ...

    Your recipe ...
  • aybolyt678
    aybolyt678 21 December 2020 10: 18
    -1
    Quote: svp67
    What's the use of talking. The job must be done as multifaceted and tough as possible ...

    only an ultimatum about the demilitarization of the Baltic states, for example, with a proposal to destroy a couple of NATO bases. This is for a start ... How else? formally they act with the consent of the leaderships of the countries. Nobody identified the red line. So it is necessary to install
    1. Doccor18
      Doccor18 21 December 2020 10: 49
      +5
      Quote: aybolyt678
      Quote: svp67
      What's the use of talking. The job must be done as multifaceted and tough as possible ...

      only an ultimatum on the demilitarization of the Baltics ..

      It was necessary to raise the issue of demilitarization 30 years ago, and not the Baltics, but the whole of Eastern Europe. And now NATO has turned all these territories into bridgeheads.
      1. DymOk_v_dYmke
        DymOk_v_dYmke 21 December 2020 12: 54
        +1
        Quote: Doccor18
        It was necessary to raise the issue of demilitarization 30 years ago, and not the Baltics, but the whole of Eastern Europe.

        And not only the eastern one.
    2. New Year day
      New Year day 21 December 2020 11: 48
      +5
      Quote: aybolyt678
      only an ultimatum on the demilitarization of the Baltic states, for example, with a proposal to destroy a couple of NATO bases. This is for a start ...

      fine! NATO ultimatum, I guess. What is your ultimatum based on? And what are you planning to refuse?
      Quote: aybolyt678
      Nobody identified the red line. So you need to install

      The country's power lies in the economy, not in missiles. For war, money is needed, and war is cuts to our economy, money and real estate over the hill. Remember the arrival of the Accountant in 2014 and the end of the "Russian Spring"
      1. aybolyt678
        aybolyt678 21 December 2020 13: 08
        0
        Quote: Silvestr
        and war is the cranks of our economy, money and real estate over the hill. Remember the arrival of the Accountant in 2014 and the end of the "Russian Spring"

        real estate over the hill is the crap of our economy .. laughing But the immediate danger of war is a chance to switch to a mobilization economy, to revive ideology,
        1. Overlock
          Overlock 21 December 2020 16: 53
          +7
          Quote: aybolyt678
          But the immediate danger of war is a chance to switch to a mobilization economy, to revive ideology,

          and all overnight? There is no Stalin, no ideology.
          1. aybolyt678
            aybolyt678 21 December 2020 19: 37
            0
            Quote: Overlock
            and all overnight? There is no Stalin, no ideology.

            They don't have Hitler either. Do you know what a Stimulus is? the incentive is a stick with an iron tip for fitting oxen and slaves. So, sometimes it is needed
    3. aleksejkabanets
      aleksejkabanets 21 December 2020 11: 54
      +3
      Quote: aybolyt678
      only an ultimatum about the demilitarization of the Baltic states, for example, with a proposal to destroy a couple of NATO bases. This is for a start ... How else? formally they act with the consent of the leaderships of the countries. Nobody identified the red line. So it is necessary to install

      Do you play chess? Isn't it too early to aggravate?
      1. aybolyt678
        aybolyt678 21 December 2020 13: 17
        0
        Quote: aleksejkabanets
        Do you play chess? Isn't it too early to aggravate?

        they make moves without waiting for our smile we have only one song - we do not threaten anyone. They are comfortable, they are not threatened. They work in our former territory. And they are trying to increase the bridgeheads - Belarus is a new example. Kazakhstan is not far off. Where and who tells them to stop? nobody states where the red line is. Their moves: Perestroika, the shooting of the White House, the Chechen wars, Orange. roar in Ukraine, Belarus .... from our side, only the Crimea. It's good to play with an opponent like us. We are for the sovereignty of our former. smile
        1. aleksejkabanets
          aleksejkabanets 21 December 2020 13: 25
          +4
          Quote: aybolyt678
          they make moves without waiting for ours ...

          You must first bring out the figures (develop the economy), otherwise the defeat is inevitable.
          1. aybolyt678
            aybolyt678 21 December 2020 13: 53
            0
            Quote: aleksejkabanets
            You must first bring out the figures (develop the economy), otherwise the defeat is inevitable.

            this is in the case of a war of annihilation .. In the case of determining the red line, no one needs trouble. And lastly, it will be possible to develop the economy only if there is a leader based on ideology and not on the friends of the moneybags
  • orionvitt
    orionvitt 21 December 2020 11: 46
    -2
    Quote: svp67
    The work must be done as multifaceted and tough as possible.

    It seems to me that most of the former "brothers", the shores are so beguiled (they are simply oozed to the extreme) that when Russia does say its weighty word, many will cry bitterly. We will not regret it.
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  • Profiler
    Profiler 21 December 2020 09: 43
    +1
    Quote: svp67
    "Staggered" ?????? This is very mildly put ... This influence has been flying into Tartarar not for the first decade, since the collapse of the USSR, but in Russia it began to be "noticed" only since 2014 ...

    Yes, and "noticed", it must be said, without conclusions, without decisions and any actions.
    Opponents can argue with Crimea and Donbass, but I'm sorry, in the vast post-Soviet space these are only weighty, but the particulars, and even if Crimea was also "profiled" then, and would not support Donbass, then in general it would be possible to question itself the existence of the Russian state.
    1. Aerodrome
      Aerodrome 21 December 2020 09: 48
      0
      Russia's influence in the post-Soviet space has been shaken
      Ha! we still dictate our unyielding will to the whole world, and the fact that the world does not obey is its problem! tongue
      1. New Year day
        New Year day 21 December 2020 10: 19
        +8
        Quote: Aerodrome
        we still dictate our unyielding will to the whole world, and the fact that the world does not obey is its problem!

        laughing Come on! For example, Putin and athletes are not allowed to participate in the Olympics. Whose problem is this?
    2. Mykhalych
      Mykhalych 21 December 2020 10: 18
      0
      Quote: Profiler
      Yes, and "noticed", it must be said, without conclusions, without decisions and any actions.
      Opponents can argue with Crimea and Donbass, but I'm sorry, in the vast post-Soviet space these are only weighty, but the particulars, and even if Crimea was also "profiled" then, and would not support Donbass, then in general it would be possible to question itself the existence of the Russian state.

      In this regard, it is better to turn to the opinion of the United States, and they presented Russia and China as enemies for them. Well, if the United States positions itself exclusively as a "superpower", Russia has more weight than ever before on the world stage. This is logic, because the Americans do not even take into account the Outskirts or Somalia, even North Korea is not even mentioned. Well, as for the post-Soviet space, I am closer to the opinion of Yakov Kedmi:"... he analyzed in detail the situation in the countries that were previously part of the USSR, and came to the conclusion that only some of them will not cease to exist in the coming years ... He revealed the main condition for the survival of the countries of the former USSR. All participants of the former Soviet Union , with the exception of Russia, are incapacitated from the point of view of the political and economic component.However, several states still will not cease to exist, since they maintain close relations with Moscow ...
      According to the political scientist, among the post-Soviet countries that are able to cope with the challenges of the modern world, only Azerbaijan and Kazakhstan can be distinguished. We are talking about states in which the political system is competently built, and at the head is a reasonable leadership, assessing all the risks and consequences of certain decisions ... "

      Source: https://politpuzzle.ru/180332-kedmi-rasskazal-glavnoe-uslovie-vyzhivaniya-stran-byvshego-sssr/
      1. Profiler
        Profiler 21 December 2020 11: 39
        -1
        Quote: Mykhalych
        In this regard, it is better to turn to the opinion of the United States, and they presented Russia and China as enemies for them. Well, if the United States positions itself exclusively as a "superpower", Russia has more weight on the world stage than ever.


        The KING favors, but the PSAR does not favor.
    3. New Year day
      New Year day 21 December 2020 10: 18
      +1
      Quote: Profiler
      if Crimea was also "profuked" then, and would not support Donbass, then in general it would be possible to question the very existence of the Russian state.

      Without questioning the need for what we have done, let us reflect on the final product on a global scale: what did Russia get and what did Russia eventually lose? The question is extremely interesting, answering it, we will get an answer about the Crimea and Donbass!
      1. Profiler
        Profiler 21 December 2020 11: 50
        -1
        Quote: Silvestr
        Without questioning the necessity of what we have done, let us reflect on the final product on a global scale: what did Russia get and what did Russia eventually lose?

        Early on, you were going to sum up the "final result". Firstly, the problem of Donbass and Ukraine in general has not yet been resolved, and secondly, the overall situation in the world is extremely unpredictable.

        So it's too early to count our chickens.
        1. New Year day
          New Year day 21 December 2020 12: 15
          +2
          Quote: Profiler
          Early on, you were going to sum up the "final result".

          6 years passed
          Quote: Profiler
          First, the problem of Donbass and Ukraine in general has not yet been resolved

          who will decide it? laughing Ukraine is not only land, it is people! Did you find a common language with them?
          Quote: Profiler
          the general situation in the world is extremely unpredictable.

          agree, especially in light of the new sanctions and Biden
          Quote: Profiler
          So it's too early to count our chickens.

          no intermediate total?
      2. DymOk_v_dYmke
        DymOk_v_dYmke 21 December 2020 12: 59
        0
        Quote: Silvestr
        Let's reflect on the final product on a global scale: what did Russia get and what did Russia lose in the end? The question is extremely interesting, answering it, we will get an answer about the Crimea and Donbass!

        At the very least, we do not have a direct presence of striped animals in Crimea and not in Ukraine. hi
        1. Dimide
          Dimide 21 December 2020 15: 22
          -1
          Are you serious?
          Remind about the construction of a base near Ochakovo, constant joint exercises of the Armed Forces of Ukraine with NATO, an instructor at training ranges, constant visits of ships to the Black Sea, I generally keep quiet about technical specialists
          1. DymOk_v_dYmke
            DymOk_v_dYmke 21 December 2020 15: 47
            0
            Quote: Dimid
            Are you serious?

            It is.
            A tender has already been announced for the re-equipment of Sevastopol as a US Navy base.
            This, in fact, played the role of the trigger.
            And there are no permanent bases with extraterritoriality yet (except for the biocenter).
            1. Dimide
              Dimide 21 December 2020 16: 05
              -1
              I didn’t hear about the tender, rather it’s a fake, but the fact that, for example, at serious hydraulic engineering facilities, on the coast, specialists from SBS and SEALs are sitting on an ongoing basis is a fact
              1. DymOk_v_dYmke
                DymOk_v_dYmke 21 December 2020 17: 15
                0
                In the USA, the tender for the reconstruction of the Sevastopol school for the engineering base of the navy has been canceled
                Material from April 22, 2014.
                Completely: https://sevastopol.su/news/v-ssha-otmenen-tender-na-rekonstrukciyu-shkoly-sevastopolya-pod-inzhenernuyu-bazu-voenno
                hi
        2. Overlock
          Overlock 21 December 2020 16: 55
          +7
          Quote: DymOk_v_dYmke
          do not have a direct presence of striped and in the Crimea and not Ukraine.

          is it?
          Kiev gave the go-ahead: the US plane approached the Crimea
          US Air Force bombers approached Crimea from Ukraine
          04.09.2020, 16: 23
          https://www.gazeta.ru/army/2020/09/04/13236440.shtml
          1. DymOk_v_dYmke
            DymOk_v_dYmke 21 December 2020 17: 33
            0
            Quote: Overlock
            is it?
            Kiev gave the go-ahead: the US plane approached the Crimea
            US Air Force bombers approached Crimea from Ukraine
            04.09.2020, 16: 23

            It is one thing to come closer, quite another to be based.
            Today WFP Belbek allows heavy strategists to be based.
  • Mykhalych
    Mykhalych 21 December 2020 10: 37
    +2
    Quote: svp67
    This influence has been flying to Tartarar for more than a decade, since the collapse of the USSR,

    And do not tell me who it was that started that "flight" to the ta-tarars, starting in May 1985 from the moment of the beginning of his career as Gen. Secretary of the CPSU Central Committee Gorbachev, who praised himself so much, positioning himself as a liquidator of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union. I served in the Socialist Republic of Vietnam at that time, if that tells you something. You love to hang labels. Not good. hi
  • Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 21 December 2020 10: 56
    0
    Quote: svp67
    This influence has been flying into Tartarar not for the first decade, since the collapse of the USSR, but in Russia it began to be "noticed" only since 2014 ...

    So what to do about it? Putting them on "non-refundable loans"? This is completely wrong ... And to work among the Russian-speaking diaspora is to cause nervous tension among the national elites ... They do not yet know how and what to do. Here comes the trampling.
    1. New Year day
      New Year day 21 December 2020 12: 16
      +3
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      And to work among the Russian-speaking diaspora

      so why didn't they do it in Ukraine? I've come across Zatulin's "work" in this field, I've seen with my own eyes
  • Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 21 December 2020 09: 32
    -5
    Japanese media: Russia's influence in the post-Soviet space is shaken
    Dream, dream. fool
    There was a wave of incidents that largely destabilized the situation near the Russian borders.
    As a result, Russia's position has strengthened. Belarus, Moldova, Ukraine, Caucasus.
    1. New Year day
      New Year day 21 December 2020 10: 21
      +1
      Quote: Mavrikiy
      As a result, Russia's position has strengthened. Belarus, Moldova, Ukraine, Caucasus.

      Are you kidding me? Looks like Turkey in the Caucasus for you Kamilfo. Why did the USSR resist this? Or our course "Anti-USSR" in such matters?
    2. Aleksandr21
      Aleksandr21 21 December 2020 11: 47
      +4
      Quote: Mavrikiy
      As a result, Russia's position has strengthened. Belarus, Moldova, Ukraine, Caucasus.


      And how is this manifested? In the meantime, I see the following picture, Russia lost Ukraine in 2014, which ultimately affected the Common Economic Space (and what plans were in 2012), to make a competitor to the European Union (Russia, Ukraine, Belarus, Kazakhstan ...) but with With the loss of Ukraine, we lost a lot, and first of all, this is a market of 40 (35) million people, and the rest, including the industry in Ukraine, which, although breathing heavily, nevertheless there was cooperation between Russia-Ukraine, there were plans revive the An-124 and many, many things ... within the CES. In 2008, Georgia was lost (even earlier in reality), which headed for the West, 2020: Moldova: - President Russophobe, heading for the West. Azerbaijan, which went under Turkey, it is necessary to say whose goods will be in priority in the Azerbaijani market? And who will Azerbaijan be guided by now? It will definitely not join the EAEU now. Yes, and before that he was not eager ... Belarus is in question, it is still unknown who will be after Lukashenka and which path the country will take (and he will leave 100%, the only question is the timing and method of leaving, he or she will endure ...) Armenia, too, is not so smooth, although it is looking at the West in the EAEU, Pashinyan will leave - another pro-European politician will come, + other countries of the region are looking at China and Turkey, in terms of whom to sell more expensively and with whom is more profitable ... I don’t see the strengthening of Russia, but there are some steps / actions, but the overall trend is sad. Every year Russia's influence on neighboring countries is decreasing.
      1. Shiden
        Shiden 21 December 2020 13: 30
        0
        I gave you a plus. It is immediately clear that you are a thinking and informed person. There are almost no such people on the site, mostly the audience is deprived of writing something. I would like to know your opinion Russia is to blame for the situation in the post-Soviet space, or do you think that all this is the machinations of the West.
        1. Aleksandr21
          Aleksandr21 21 December 2020 15: 42
          +1
          A difficult question, on the one hand, the fact that we are losing influence in the post-Soviet space is our fault, since we cannot keep / offer the countries of the former USSR what they need: technology, money (loans), a general idea, etc. in this regard, such giants as the USA / China are an order of magnitude superior to us, on the other hand, with limited resources and capabilities, could more have been achieved or not? No answer. As for the West, it is obvious that there is a big game going on and we are assigned the role of being an enemy, whether we like it or not, so regardless of what we do / or do, this will not change the overall picture and our zone of influence will be tried and further reduce .... but the root of this problem is in a small population and too large a territory: (145 million people on a global scale (7 billion 827 million people in November 2020 on Earth) this is nothing, according to forecasts by 2050 population Russia will be reduced to 125 million, and the total population of the Earth by 2050 will be 9 billion 772 million people ... and just imagine, Russia with such a territory, with such resources (including fresh water) + a significant part of the Arctic is a huge chunk pie, on which everyone, without exception, licks their lips, and clearly believe that it is too fat for us and needs to be shared, so something like this .... I certainly deviated a little from the topic, but the root of the problems and events that were or will be will eventually rotate in the circle of this.
          1. Machnamh
            Machnamh 21 December 2020 20: 49
            -1
            And what do you think ---- the United States seems to have a positive population dynamics. 2,25 times more population than in the Russian Federation. If in 1 year in the Russian Federation the population will grow by 40 thousand at best, then in the USA by one and a half million. That is 40 times more. But at the same time this is happening to a much greater extent at the expense of blacks and Latinos. The Anglo-Saxon and Germanic core has decreased and this trend continues steadily. Some Russian Americanists argue that this will not affect the state of US development for the worse. But most likely this is not true. They are obsessed with political correctness, as are the visible regimes of the US and other Western countries. Human races are not equal. It is obvious. It's just that it's not customary to speak out about it today. And White is much higher in intellectual development. The Anglo-Saxon core predominated in the United States, the country had a very strong rise in development. Decreased ----- there were also tendencies for gradual degradation. The most obvious example in the world today is South Africa under white and black rule. In 30-40 years, whites in the United States will become a minority. In Russia, this tendency to replace the white population is much less pronounced than in the United States and in Europe. Is there any advantage to this?
        2. Mavrikiy
          Mavrikiy 21 December 2020 15: 59
          -1
          Quote: Shiden
          I would like to know your opinion Russia is to blame for the situation in the post-Soviet space or do you think that all this is the machinations of the West.

          And where is the topical: "Crimea will return?" repeat
      2. Mavrikiy
        Mavrikiy 21 December 2020 15: 39
        -1
        Quote: Aleksandr21
        In the meantime, I see this picture, 2014 Russia lost Ukraine,

        Did we have it? fool We lost her from Khrushchev.
        1. Aleksandr21
          Aleksandr21 21 December 2020 15: 51
          +1
          Quote: Mavrikiy
          Did we have it? We lost her from Khrushchev.


          This is only partly true, after all, after the collapse of the USSR, although Ukraine sat on two chairs, it revolved in the orbit of our interests, almost the entire industry was focused on us and products were produced in cooperation with our enterprises and according to the GDP plans which he quite publicly voiced in 2010-2012 Ukraine was supposed to become a part of the Customs Union for the subsequent formation into an analogue of the European Union, after all, the 40 million market is not scattered around (especially when other markets have already been divided), and then the Americans played ahead of the curve and we saw 2014 in which we finally lost Ukraine ...
          1. Mavrikiy
            Mavrikiy 21 December 2020 15: 56
            0
            Quote: Aleksandr21
            This is only partly true

            Quite right, all your messages are not devoid of meaning, but the content ... In the relations of two sovereign countries .... and here it is who and to what extent can be called such. request
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  • NDR-791
    NDR-791 21 December 2020 09: 32
    +5
    Reporting !!! All these and any other events do not affect the attitude towards the islands. Japanese citizens, you can breathe out and sit on the priest exactly
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 21 December 2020 09: 49
      +3
      Quote: NDR-791
      Japanese citizens, you can breathe out and sit on the priest exactly

      And what influence post-war Japan itself has, maybe its influence has increased.
      1. New Year day
        New Year day 21 December 2020 10: 36
        +1
        Quote: tihonmarine
        post-war Japan

        Post-war Japan gave impetus to the development of radio electronics - Sony, Panasonic, etc.
        1. Profiler
          Profiler 21 December 2020 11: 35
          0
          Quote: Silvestr
          Post-war Japan gave impetus to the development of radio electronics - Sony, Panasonic, etc.

          Before growing to electronics on an industrial scale, they "rose" in artisanal and semi-artisanal private, often family-owned mini-productions, which they retained until the mid-80s of the last century.
          These handicraftsmen constituted a significant share in the production of components for radio electronics, and for auto and motorcycle equipment, which Japan can be proud of today.

          But they started out like in this video - the Chinese.

        2. Dimide
          Dimide 21 December 2020 15: 31
          -2
          Sorry to interfere, Japan, for a second, is the third economy in the world, with all the ensuing consequences.
          1. Profiler
            Profiler 22 December 2020 10: 40
            -1
            Quote: Dimid
            Sorry to interfere, Japan, for a second, is the third economy in the world, with all the ensuing consequences.

            Nobody denied this. My commentary contained brief information (with an illustration in the video) about where the "Asian tigers" began (and begin).
  • Svarog
    Svarog 21 December 2020 09: 33
    +1
    Therefore, one can hardly agree with the conclusions of the Japanese journalists. Of course, life in the post-Soviet space has become much less stable, but it is still impossible to talk about the loss of Russia's influence on its closest neighbors.

    The influence remains, here the Japanese were mistaken. But the fact that it is not calm around Russia is a fact. Well, not calmly around us, because there is no intelligible, clear, tough policy. Everything is left to chance .. maybe it will resolve itself.
    1. Pilot
      Pilot 21 December 2020 09: 47
      -1
      So why bother if the propagandists think of everything and formulate it as the politicians need, as a result, the influence increases as a result of a clear policy, And from the Japanese it is quite expected, unexpectedly, to hear this ... Japanese with a European type of eyes. belay
  • 2 Level Advisor
    2 Level Advisor 21 December 2020 09: 35
    +3
    They wrote: not - the NHK TV channel said in a single number, but the Japanese media and immediately the reader gets the feeling that this is the opinion of the whole of Japan, and not of one journalist who prepared the material .. "hot" headline is the half of success in journalism laughing
    1. Volodin
      Volodin 21 December 2020 09: 42
      +2
      Quote: Level 2 Advisor
      NHK TV channel said in a single number, and the Japanese media and immediately the reader gets the feeling that

      Of course, especially if you read the materials diagonally or not further than the first paragraph ... In this case, you can make not such claims to the author laughing
      1. 2 Level Advisor
        2 Level Advisor 21 December 2020 09: 45
        +2
        read it again and did not see any link to anyone other than NHK .. point out - what did you miss, Alexey? otherwise your comment looks weird ...
        1. Aerodrome
          Aerodrome 21 December 2020 10: 13
          +2
          [quote = Expert Advisor Level 2] [/ quote] --- "Hokkaido shimbun"
          1. Volodin
            Volodin 21 December 2020 10: 18
            0
            Quote: Aerodrome
            "Hokkaido shimbun"

            Exactly. And then after Nikolai's commentary, I really thought that I was the only one who saw it laughing
            1. 2 Level Advisor
              2 Level Advisor 21 December 2020 11: 09
              0
              I apologize men - I did not finish watching hi but this does not change the essence of the comment about "fried" .. By the way, look what you found:
              The full name of the organization JOINT STOCK COMPANY PUBLISHING HOKKAIDO SIMBUN
              Address Sakhalin Region, Yuzhno-Sakhalinsk, Kommunisticheskiy Avenue, 32 of. 438
              What kind of foreign agents bloom and smell on the territory of the Russian Federation?
  • Kuz
    Kuz 21 December 2020 09: 39
    +17
    They would better watch their surroundings. China is already slowly biting off its zone of interests.
  • Guards turn
    Guards turn 21 December 2020 09: 40
    0
    ... "but it's still impossible to talk about the loss of Russia's influence on its closest neighbors."
    The Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation plans to build more than 50 facilities on the Kuril Islands. More than 25 facilities have already been commissioned, with one of the air defense units already taking over duty on Kunashir Island.
    1. vavilon
      vavilon 21 December 2020 11: 39
      -1
      In the modern world, you need to fight not for territories, but for the minds of people, and unfortunately we are losing this war
      And if we lose it completely then the weapon will no longer save
  • prior
    prior 21 December 2020 09: 43
    +1
    "When there is no agreement among the comrades, their business will not go well ...."

    Well, what agreement can there be between members of different organized crime groups ...
  • bar
    bar 21 December 2020 09: 44
    +2
    The former Soviet republics, which Russia regards as its zone of influence, have become turbulent this year.

    Brothers in mind have a late ignition. The "former Soviet" became uneasy since the times when they were not yet former.
  • Ros 56
    Ros 56 21 December 2020 09: 49
    -7
    Why are the narrow-eyed people interested in our influence on the former republics? They themselves cannot influence themselves, they sit like mice under an American broom on their islets.
    1. evgen1221
      evgen1221 21 December 2020 10: 05
      +3
      At the same time, Japanese corporations have considerable influence over the states. And how do they do it?)))
    2. New Year day
      New Year day 21 December 2020 10: 38
      +3
      Quote: Ros 56
      They themselves cannot influence themselves, they sit like mice under an American broom on their islets.

      Is that why the submarine fleet and surface ships are being updated?
  • rocket757
    rocket757 21 December 2020 09: 49
    +3
    What impact, what stability ...
    A generation of leaders, people who had at least something connected with Russia, the USSR, is leaving, and new ones want and are looking for a new share.
    The fish are looking for where it is deeper, and people are looking for where it is sweeter .... while / if they burn themselves on that sweet, they can / cannot remember their former friends.
    1. cniza
      cniza 21 December 2020 09: 54
      +2
      Quote: rocket757
      and new ones want and are looking for a new share.


      Yeah, and find themselves adventures on the fifth point ... Greetings! hi
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 21 December 2020 10: 00
        +1
        Hi soldier
        Everyone, very clever, considers himself smarter than others. Exactly.
        Then, rarely one of them is fully responsible for their jambs. So sho and there is nothing to talk about.
        1. cniza
          cniza 21 December 2020 10: 03
          +2
          Only then will they come running and ask for money, etc.
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 21 December 2020 10: 21
            +1
            Those who are satisfied with the muddle, more often than not, do not remain at a loss!
            And to argue that they have a "soul" about people, country, "hurts" is not necessary! What is not, that is not!
            1. cniza
              cniza 21 December 2020 11: 08
              +2
              Of course, those who managed to fill their pockets won't come running, but what they will leave behind ...
    2. New Year day
      New Year day 21 December 2020 10: 58
      +3
      Quote: rocket757
      A generation of leaders is leaving, people who were at least somehow connected with Russia ...

      .... which are alien to the past postulates, which are grown in a nationalist direction, where the interests of the elites are aimed at enrichment and the desire to join the dense ranks of the world elite, when the interests of the population of countries, their well-being, are not interesting to them.
      It is worth recalling that Russia is moving in the same direction.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 21 December 2020 11: 27
        0
        Nationally committed leader, this is not a sentence.
        Such can be nationalists, in the most critical sense of this definition, they can be useful for the country they are leading ...
        Each case has to be considered individually!
        Obviously, we do not like the balance that has developed !!! But here it is useless to groan and gasp, it is necessary to work in this direction persistently, efficiently, etc.
        In the future, we look at the result and ..... the result is unsatisfactory!
  • cniza
    cniza 21 December 2020 09: 53
    0
    It is difficult to grasp the connection between all these events, if it exists. The Japanese media claim that all these cases indicate that Russia's influence in the post-Soviet space has been shaken.


    This is your master, with his mongrels, does not allow to live in peace.
    1. rocket757
      rocket757 21 December 2020 10: 01
      +1
      The owner has one goal. It rakes up everything that the grabber can reach.
      1. cniza
        cniza 21 December 2020 10: 03
        +1
        Well, yes, only the girth of the arms is not enough, soon everything will fall out ...
        1. rocket757
          rocket757 21 December 2020 10: 22
          +1
          His hands are dimensionless, but the seat may not be enough.
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 21 December 2020 10: 52
            +1
            Again a mistake .... FEELS may not be enough for them.
            1. cniza
              cniza 21 December 2020 11: 10
              +1
              And it doesn't matter whether the hands are enough, or the strength, or the mouth will break, all one is waiting for big changes ...
              1. rocket757
                rocket757 21 December 2020 11: 29
                +1
                Well yes, we mainly watch and wait.
                But our politicians, bodies, servicemen need to WORK very hard!
                Otherwise, the results may be those that we do not like at all.
                1. cniza
                  cniza 21 December 2020 11: 45
                  +2
                  I really hope that they understand this ...
                  1. rocket757
                    rocket757 21 December 2020 12: 36
                    +1
                    To understand, at present, is not enough. You also need to be able to ... at least listen to those who know and can.
                    1. cniza
                      cniza 21 December 2020 12: 41
                      +2
                      And this is the most painful point, I will say figuratively - when the ministry is led by a person who has never worked at departmental enterprises ...
                      1. rocket757
                        rocket757 21 December 2020 13: 01
                        +1
                        Well, effective managers, and even on golden parachutes, are am khan, any business!
                        And they will not get ANYTHING for that! Whoever put them in there will make sure that they get out of there successfully .... dumped. And the case, ruined, to tfu on him.
                        I would say that this is a misfortune, but it hurts like something else ...
                      2. cniza
                        cniza 21 December 2020 13: 09
                        +2
                        We like to say - not a reasonable personnel policy, and then it comes to oops ...
                      3. rocket757
                        rocket757 21 December 2020 13: 15
                        +1
                        Yes, there is no personnel policy there, in the classical sense of this definition. Intercourse, you attached mine, I yours and that's the only way. Bread places are sorted by rank and money ... that's all.
                      4. cniza
                        cniza 21 December 2020 13: 19
                        +2
                        Yes, and strangers are not allowed there, only we won't last long ...
                      5. rocket757
                        rocket757 21 December 2020 13: 23
                        +1
                        The country is large and inert. It doesn’t appear all at once ... and it’s on that.
                      6. cniza
                        cniza 21 December 2020 13: 26
                        +2
                        And I must admit, it was so at all times, except for a short period during the Soviet era ...
  • rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 21 December 2020 10: 02
    +1
    Russia's influence in the post-Soviet space has been shaken
    Reeling? Regarding the points in the post-Soviet space listed by the Japanese media. In Belarus, the next color revolution can be safely said to have failed and not without the help of Russia, in Kyrgyzstan, as soon as they were told that they would not receive loans and our emissaries arrived, the pogroms stopped, the war in Karabakh was stopped not by France, in which Pashinyan hoped, but by us and our peacekeepers there ... Yes, indeed, since the 90s little attention has been paid to the post-Soviet space, naively believing "where will they go?" Will change, because Western NGOs at this time invested money, educated their own personnel and rebuilt the countries according to their wishes. But the belief of the Japanese in the return of the Kuriles was shaken and shaken very much.
    1. New Year day
      New Year day 21 December 2020 11: 06
      +4
      Quote: rotmistr60
      In Belarus, the next color revolution can be safely said to have failed

      Hurry to conclusions. If they do not show it in the box, then this does not mean that everything has passed
      Quote: rotmistr60
      and not without the help of Russia,

      It will be bad when the anti-Lukashenko slogan is transformed into an anti-Russian one.
      Quote: rotmistr60
      The war in Karabakh was stopped not by France, in which Pashinyan hoped, but by us and our peacekeepers there.

      Therefore, Erdogan in the Caucasus, peacekeepers for 5 years, the Turks plan to populate the liberated regions, shoot down helicopters without consequences ... How in anti-Russian sentiments in Armenia? The largest American congregation in the Caucasus is in Yerevan. And in soft power, Russia traditionally loses
      I doubt there will be an extension of the peacekeeping treaty
      1. rotmistr60
        rotmistr60 21 December 2020 11: 33
        +1
        Your glass is half empty, mine is half full. But at the same time, I noted that
        Since the 90s, little attention has been paid to the post-Soviet space, naively believing "where will they go?" Will be ...
  • evgen1221
    evgen1221 21 December 2020 10: 03
    0
    The influence will naturally weaken if these countries view young diplomats as the start of a career and the departure of the number, and the more experienced ones as a link to circulation. In both cases, they work for show. Plus imperial phantoms in the Kremlin.
  • Alex66
    Alex66 21 December 2020 10: 28
    0
    For 30 years, the bourgeois government in Russia has not proposed a national idea, our principles are no better than American, European or Asian, but inferior to them in execution. It is understandable Europe has been honing its system for hundreds of years, but we thought that we had jumped into the last carriage, but only it turned out to be uncoupled in a dead end, no one is going to take us to the future, all the seats have been occupied for a long time. We ourselves need to build the transport system on socialist or communist principles, then there will be people willing to go with us. Until then, they want with the leaders.
  • Vladimir61
    Vladimir61 21 December 2020 10: 42
    0
    It is difficult to grasp the connection between all these events ...
    How! We associate fever, runny nose, cough, dizziness, general fatigue with flu. And here, a political pandemic in the post-Soviet space and nothing is connected?
    Connected! It is connected with our eternal concern as a universal method of expressing our national interests, with hopes for a certain decency of “friends” and “partners”, the world community and law, some utopian aspirations of peoples and historical justice. Yes, we may be "white" and "fluffy", maybe it will be liked by someone else besides us. Only, all this does not translate into our national interests and practical results.
    In the world, regardless of historical, partnerships and other ties, only strength and its projection are respected, not godly fear. We are fixated on the principle - "understand and forgive"!
  • HAM
    HAM 21 December 2020 11: 19
    +2
    As soon as Russia moves to the level of “Russia owes nothing to anyone,” cries of “loss of influence” are immediately heard. The transition to simple business relations is interpreted as weakness ... The former “bros” would still like to be fed free of charge. and that was not enough ... but it is necessary to "influence" differently ... without freeloaders, on equal terms: "you tell me, I tell you" ..
  • Connor MacLeod
    Connor MacLeod 21 December 2020 11: 24
    0
    A woman with a cart, the mare is easier ...
  • vavilon
    vavilon 21 December 2020 11: 32
    +2
    Influence Staggered! )))) The Japs through their little eyes just now saw it!?))
    After the collapse of the union, it did not exist and does not exist at all, which is why most of the former union republics are now hostile towards Russia
  • A_Lex
    A_Lex 21 December 2020 11: 42
    0
    lately Moscow has paid insufficient attention to the processes taking place in the near abroad.


    Right. Moreover, this "recent time" has been going on for about 35 years, starting from the period when Gorbachev's team of liquidators of the state, both by action and by inaction, provoked the republics to secede from the Union.
  • APASUS
    APASUS 21 December 2020 11: 46
    +2
    Such a one-sided perception. It was not Russia's influence that was shaken, but our "partners" invested in subversive activities of the countries of the former USSR. But in Japan, one can ignore this.
  • Vadim Ananyin
    Vadim Ananyin 21 December 2020 12: 05
    +4
    But didn't it stagger in the 90s, there was no Russophobia, there was no expulsion of Russians from these republics? Everything remained at the same level in all the republics, somewhere more, somewhere less.
    The Kremlin simply monitors and to some extent influences, the internal gemmor of these republics does not threaten it with anything. But the republics themselves turned out to be more dependent on the influence or lack of influence of the Kremlin as cement for their existence in the world. And NHK is trying to analyze what is not clear. Ukraine, Moldova, Kazakhstan, Turkmenistan, Tajikistan, etc. - have they all become highly developed states? Well, why should the Kremlin bother on this topic when these elites of these states themselves are doing bad things to themselves? Fuck him with a gun!
  • Free Island
    Free Island 21 December 2020 12: 07
    0
    The main thing is that in Japan again nothing would "shake" the points of some sort by 7-9 on the Richter scale ... And then they forgot, you see, Fukushima
  • iouris
    iouris 21 December 2020 12: 21
    -1
    The Japanese have only one thing on their mind: when to start taking the "northern territories"?
  • Sergey Nemov
    Sergey Nemov 21 December 2020 14: 49
    +12
    Russia's influence in the post-Soviet space has been shaken

    The influence has not faltered. He is almost gone. Our authorities are not interested in developing relations with the former republics of the USSR. Our authorities want to be "partners" with the West, these eternal enemies of ours.
  • lvov_aleksey
    lvov_aleksey 21 December 2020 19: 17
    -1
    I do not care, enough to feed the satellites of the USSR !!!
    ps then write off $ billion
  • Voltsky
    Voltsky 21 December 2020 23: 06
    0
    Japanese media: Russia's influence in the post-Soviet space is shaken

    captain obvious: yes, in 91.
  • Warrior MorePhoto
    Warrior MorePhoto 21 December 2020 23: 52
    0
    This is already a trail of the power of Russia ... to my great regret ... even just in the last week, when China collected and delivered 2 kg of lunar soil ... WE! Once the first (merit of the USSR) sent the first human into space, 20 (and more) after healthy, young men, hundreds of thousands of women were killed ...
    Tears looking at what the country has become in 20 years!
    One joy for friends from the Forbes list. can! do what they want! ... and on Vostochny, they steal and steal ... even the president cannot cope, ehhh ... they have gone far!
  • Alekxandr
    Alekxandr 22 December 2020 13: 59
    0
    During these years, the Russian Federation strengthened its influence on the CIS countries. It is the economic impact. Many countries are very dependent on the Russian Federation.
    So - hurray!