Mi-8AMTSh-VN confirmed the characteristics of the airborne assault vehicle

The newest transport and combat helicopter Mi-8AMTSh-VN, during the past tests, confirmed its strike and assault capabilities as a flying airborne combat vehicle. It is reported by RIA News with reference to a source in the military-industrial complex.

The interlocutor of the news agency called the helicopter "a multifunctional machine for performing shock, assault and airborne transport tasks", this was achieved thanks to the improved complex of controlled weapons and increased survivability.

The prototype Mi-8AMTSh-VN in recent tests fired guided missiles of the Ataka-VM complex at targets imitating enemy armored vehicles. (...) also used unguided rockets and cannons in overhead containers. The shooting was recognized as successful.

- said the source, adding that in fact the helicopter confirmed the characteristics as a flying combat vehicle of the landing.

The start of flight tests of the Mi-8AMTSh-VN transport and combat helicopter was reported in July this year. The first batch of 10 helicopters will go into service in 2021, all of them will be delivered to the army brigades aviationworking in the interests of the Airborne Forces.

The Mi-8AMTSh-VN helicopter is an improved version of the Mi-8/17 helicopter, created taking into account the Syrian experience. It is equipped with VK-2500-03 gas turbine engines with an upgraded transmission and improved climatic characteristics and a new carrier system. In addition, the helicopter was equipped with an updated armament, the main feature of which was the use of special suspension on the farms of two course machine guns of 12,7 mm caliber. The cockpit and main components of the helicopter are covered with titanium alloy armor, and the cockpit floor and sides up to the windows are covered with removable Kevlar armor.

A new flight and navigation equipment was installed on the helicopter. To increase the combat survivability, the principle of a combination of a "glass cabin" and reliable analog instruments has been applied. The machine is adapted for use at night.

Mi-8AMTSH-VN is equipped with the LSZ-8VN defense complex, which automatically detects the launch of missiles by helicopter, interferes with their guidance heads and emits false thermal targets.

Comments

[Victor_B]

Mi-8AMTSh-VN

I wonder how many additional letters will appear in 20 years?
As far as I understand, such indices - if we ourselves cannot understand a damn thing, then the enemy will definitely not figure it out!

[Vladimir_2U]

The main thing is that the engines and the brao change, and the letters ... Yes, even if they write the whole alphabet, let the YUS analysts break their languages.

[Victor_B]

Quote: Vladimir_2U

Yes, at least the whole alphabet let them write, let the YUSov analysts break their tongues.

Duc to that and goes!
Here are just a soft and hard sign is impossible.
For bourgeois do not reproduce at all.

[svp67]

Quote: Victor_B

For bourgeois do not reproduce at all.

They and the usual letters in the combination "USSR" are inconveniently pronounced

[Pereira]

And there are individuals who don't just pronounce the word Russia, can't even write it.

[serg.shishkov2015]

You named them correctly, individuals! And I also use the term biological objects! This terminology is more familiar to me in dealing with such people!

[Wolf]

And there is no such inconvenient CCCP they pronounce!

[serg.shishkov2015]

B and b these were a series of tank locomotives! if memory serves, er and ep were pronounced

[Ascold1901]

On the contrary! We still need to insert "Ђ" (yat)! As if "brains will boil"!

[figwam]

Quote: Vladimir_2U

The main thing is that the engines and the brao change

The camouflage has changed the same, now it will be pixel.

[svp67]

Quote: Victor_B

I wonder how many additional letters will appear in 20 years?

Well, the Russian alphabet is not yet exhausted. Although they could have already used tsifiri, it would somehow be easier to pronounce and write ...

[Victor_B]

Quote: svp67

somehow it would be easier to pronounce and write ...

The goal setting is different ...

[prior]

I propose to designate the following modification as the Mi-8-USSR. And 15 more union republics! What a prospect for future upgrades.
For us these are just letters, but how "nice" it will be for NATO and striped men!

[svp67]

Quote: prior

And 15 more union republics!

Imagine howl, from Mi-8 "Ukraine", "Georgia", "Lithuania", "Latvia" and "Estonia"

[prior]

This howl pleases the ear. Such a modification can be left, for example, in Donbass.

[Laksamana besar]

I might be wrong, not a constructor, but sort of like:
A - modification, such and such
M - modification, another - that - that
TSh - transport and assault
through a dash:
H - night, there is also A - Arctic
B in VN and VA like high-altitude (night / arctic), but also a modification.
In fact, the "letters" all over the world are the same in helicopter and aircraft construction, and in mechanical engineering too.

[Ros 56]

That the car is suitable for fighters is very good. I would add letters to the abbreviation of the name, which the striped ones did not have in the alphabet, let them scratch their turnips: a sho won take.

[Zaurbek]

In general, we could have delivered the cockpit directly from the Mi38. She's prettier.

[Basarev]

Isn't it better to create a specialized, completely new helicopter from scratch? The Mi-8 is not intended for war, all alterations are half measures. Yes, and he is old, he still remembers Gagarin.

[Victor Tsenin]

And why is it not suitable for transportation and landing, in your opinion? Nothing worse than analogs, in my opinion)

[Vitaly161]

it seems to me that in the 8ki weight category it is already difficult to invent something better, and therefore it is pointless, 8ka is like an AK, simple, not whimsical, terribly reliable and tenacious, I understand when they pour shit on a crocodile, but touch 8ku, that's like pour slop over the orthodox cross

[Al_lexx]

No, not better. Those. nothing better, just because it is almost impossible to do better.
It is possible to install a new engine, new avionics, a new fire control system, communications, all this is possible. But to make a helicopter of this class and according to the same scheme is almost impossible.
There are eight, there are twenty-four, and they can be safely modernized for another twenty years.

[Vitaly161]

at the expense of 24k is a big question, the car, as I wrote above, is legendary, you cannot argue with this, but in comparison with the same Ka 52, 24k is no longer a cake at all

[Al_lexx]

Quote: Vitaliy161

at the expense of 24k is a big question, the car, as I wrote above, is legendary, you cannot argue with this, but in comparison with the same Ka 52, 24k is no longer a cake at all

These are fundamentally different machines, according to their purpose. They cannot be compared.
Another thing is that before the appearance of MI-28, we simply did not have specialized attack helicopters.

[Vitaly161]

but they only use them in the same way, direct support on the battlefield, or free hunting (for BT, of course), I personally do not remember when and under what circumstances they took troops in real DB, and how long has it been, in Chechnya and then 24ki undercover by the way 8k

[Al_lexx]

Quote: Vitaliy161

in Chechnya, and then 8ki went under cover by the way 24k

Because there was nothing else then, in the context of attack helicopters. And also because the crocodile has restrictions on landing from the air, since it cannot hang for a long time. He can either fly or sit down immediately, and in the mountains this is not always possible. At maximum load, it generally takes off in an airplane. But the figure eight can hang over any nickle as much as you like. That's all.
And mountains are not the whole world.
I don't understand what we are arguing about ..

[Victor Tsenin]

There are so many letters in the modification, but the Vitebsk defense complex is not visible, which is sad, given the separately noted Syrian experience. When will we start protecting cars and people?

[Al_lexx]

IMHO MI-8, it is still rather a flying armored personnel carrier than an infantry fighting vehicle. BMP, this is MI-24.
Don't understand why people are boiling over the letters of modernization? The scheme is proven and it is not possible to make it better. It was not for nothing that he was bounded with a magnificent eight. Change, engines, avionics, OMS, etc. That's all. From scratch, why should a sluggish horseradish develop something, only for a new tsifir, if what is working perfectly?

[Vitaly161]

in fact it is, but the Crocodile is more of a drummer, he can take passengers, but only to the detriment of the combat load, 8ka in this regard is more universal

[Al_lexx]

The crocodile is the BMP. Armored, with a cannon and with completely different flight characteristics. "Damage" from passengers, this is only when he was forced to work with a bomber like in Afghanistan. And with standard weapons, he normally drags the squad.
Eight is like a kind of under-armored personnel carrier, a heavily armed truck for HP.
Drummers are MI-28 and KA-52.

[Vitaly161]

Afghanistan is Afghanistan, it is difficult for turntables to work there, any

[Al_lexx]

Vitaly, are you just "but talk" or to the point?
What does "Afghanistan is different" mean? A banal (by today's standards) counter-guerrilla war in the highlands. Exactly the same as we have in the Caucasus and a bunch of other similar places. There was a need for a low-speed bomber, since even the "rooks" could not get through some cracks .. That's all.
I just clearly pointed out that if the crocodile is used as a bomber, then there is no need to transport personnel there. In the normal mode, this is a real flying infantry fighting vehicle, which is not in any army in the world.

[dauria]

Drummers are MI-28 and KA-52.

Did you "save" a lot of weight on the "landing cockpit"? Did it add weapons or armor? No, but the passing, albeit rare, opportunity to sit down, pick up or drop off was deprived. And when redeploying (and this is an extremely important element in helicopter tactics in view of the small radius), you can throw junk in the form of covers, ammo, batteries, equipment, and even the crew and techies of the groups immediately on the site.
For me, it's a waste of money in the end for the Mi-28 and even more so for the Ka. Carried away by the Apache, but in fact it is a mediocre machine of "wars of low intensity"

The 24 also had important modifications. Radiochemical intelligence. Okay, artillery correction can be assigned to the UAV. And this to whom?

[Al_lexx]

Quote: dauria

Did you "save" a lot of weight on the "landing cockpit"? Did it add weapons or armor? No.

As I understand it, your peremptoriness is like some kind of axiomatic form of proof. Is it really so difficult to carefully look at the performance characteristics of these completely different machines, so as not to write such nonsense?
Undoubtedly, the "crocodile" is an excellent helicopter, but due to its "semi-aircraft" design, it a priori does not know how to do half of what the "hunter" and "alligator" can (long hovering, funnel, etc.). And no one was fond of Apache. Quite the opposite is true. They came to their senses and made two specialized, albeit partly interchangeable (the Kamov does not have a napkin, but it is better suited for UDC) percussion machines, thereby completely closing all the niches.

[dauria]

As I understand it, your peremptoriness is like some kind of axiomatic form of proof

Wow !!! This is a phrase, you need to remember and flaunt ...
Everything is simpler ..... I really have an idea of ​​what "Armenian" aviation is. Smuggled vodka is in the "chumodan". Don't be offended.

[Al_lexx]

In my thoughts was not ..)

[rotmistr60]

Basarev (Arseny)
Mi-8 is not intended for war,

In fact, it was originally created as a military transport helicopter, equipped with a machine gun and suspension mounts. By time and participation in wars he proved his right to do so.

[bogart047]

Mi-8AMTSh-VN - more letters to God of letters

[garri-lin]

A strange trend. 24ku was scolded for combining functions. Type when vfazhivayut can not shoot. Carries a senseless load. And they continue to walk along the same path. It's strange.

[Al_lexx]

Quote: garri-lin

A strange trend.

This is not a trend. These are just people who will always find reasons to scold something, moan or something else. Both the eight and twenty-four are excellent cars in demand. It's just that the MI-24 was developed for the European theater of operations precisely as a flying infantry fighting vehicle, when it is very often necessary to capture bridgeheads across a bunch of river obstacles. But historically it so happened that it was in this role that he did not have to work, which does not mean that the situations for which he was created will not exist in the future.

[garri-lin]

It's still a controversial decision. The Mi 8 without weapons and with a landing force plus an attack aircraft such as Mi 24 or Ka 50 for cover looks more logical. If you do not weight the Mi 8 with a weapon, then a lot of weight can be spent on increasing survivability. Both armor and active systems. 2 DUM 12,7 mm / 40mm will be enough for him. And the Ka 50 can easily iron out the firing points in the landing zone. If there are any. And initially it is better to check with a small and tenacious helicopter for an ambush.

[Dmitriy444]

As long as I flew away, no one has ever complained. that the eight did not work well. I will even reveal a little secret to you, the eight surpasses the Mi-24 in terms of power-to-weight ratio.

[garri-lin]

That is why I felt much more comfortable in Afghanistan than the Mi24. But admit that it is almost impossible to fire at firing points from a vehicle hovering for a landing. And after disembarkation it may turn out to be meaningless. And before disembarkation, they may not be found elementary. The Mi 8 is great as a transport. But the weight spent on placing a large number of weapons would be better spent on booking the cockpit and cargo bay. And cover with a full-fledged drummer.

[not main]

Quote: garri-lin

But the weight spent on placing a large number of weapons would be better spent on booking the cabin and cargo bay. A full cover

I agree completely! I would like to add that the Ulan-Ude plant had already stepped on this "rake" when the Mi-8TV was released, it was so overloaded with weapons that it took off with "difficulty", of course T and MT are two big differences! But why repeat mistakes?

[garri-lin]

What and speech.

[Disant]

now it remains to designate the carrying capacity in terms of heights and everything will fall into place.