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Could Armenia win the battle for Nagorno-Karabakh: analysis of some factors

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Consideration of the "alternative" variant of the result of this military conflict is all the more interesting because the Armenian side won the previous battle with the same participants and in the same theater of military operations. So why did things turn out differently this time? And could it be otherwise? By the way, some people in Armenia itself are now claiming that, they say, "there was not the slightest chance of victory from the very beginning." Whether someone likes it or not, this is not the case. So could Armenia have won the battle for Nagorno-Karabakh?


Let's analyze some of the factors.

Yes, Yerevan did almost everything possible for its own defeat. There is not that they did not prepare for the upcoming clash, which was imminent. They acted much more recklessly - they were preparing for a war of the 90s model and with an enemy of the level that the Azerbaijani army had at that time. The result is the very complex of problems that ultimately led to a crushing defeat, which did not turn into a final defeat only thanks to Russia's intervention.

Open positions, not protected from artillery fire and air strikes, the lack of an effective air defense system, and at all levels, critical miscalculations in literally all areas of the army's life support - from mobilization work to logistics and supplying it with the most necessary things. In order to list even the most serious failures of the Armenian side, the volume of even the largest article is not enough. Neither people, nor equipment, nor military engineering structures - nothing was ready for the beginning of the conflict.

In this regard, mention should be made of a complete failure in the work of the military intelligence and counterintelligence of Armenia - or the absolute disregard of information received from them by the top leadership of both the country and the army. Baku's preparation for the war was so obvious that only a blind man could not miss it. The talk of the town is the notorious airfield with Azerbaijani ANs, with the help of which the same, already not brilliant Armenian air defense system was probed and hacked, on which not a single bomb or rocket fell from the first to the last day of the fighting ... An adequate response to question: "Why?" no one in Armenia can give.

However, as well as on many other similar questions. In fact, Armenia, and, accordingly, the defenders of the unrecognized Artsakh, could have won only in one case - forcing the Azerbaijani army to “get stuck” tightly in the most difficult positional battles in the “security belt” around the NKR. At the worst, in the foothills and mountains, which they, it would seem, should have known like the back of their hand. This should have been accompanied by retaliatory strikes not only against the advancing enemy forces, but also against its most important military targets - the bases aviation and UAVs in the first place.

To say, as many are trying to do today, that Armenia “had nothing to oppose a much better technically equipped enemy” - “Iskander” and “Tochka U”, “Terribly silent” all four months, have never been raised. into the sky, the Su-30SM is not “technical backwardness”. This is the lack of political will and courage in the leadership in Yerevan. I will not undertake to state this for sure, but perhaps the Armenian side had a chance to snatch victory in the current war as well. But for this, literally from the first days of the outbreak of the conflict, it was necessary to act in a completely different way.

Yerevan should have made it clear that the country would fight to the death for every inch of Artsakh's land, considering it its own. To use all the most modern types of weapons at his disposal - aviation, above all. To declare a real, and not an ostentatious mobilization, a true martial law, and not, excuse me, a disgrace, in which in the same Yerevan there are enough young healthy men who can playfully destroy the Prime Minister's residence in revenge for the "shameful peace" lack of efficient personnel.

The Armenian leadership should have immediately decided - or negotiate with Baku at the cost of losing the "security belt", thereby somewhat postponing the war in time and finally begin to prepare for it in real. Either fight with what we have, but fight without trying to hold positions that are obviously unsuitable for defense in modern combat conditions, but counterattack, trying to impose our strategy of war on the enemy. The trouble is that the Armenian army and the NKR forces did not have any strategy, no plan at all - neither defense nor counter-offensive at all. At least from the outside, it looks like that.

What did she lack during the Azerbaijani offensive in the south - along the Iranian border? People, technicians, commanders who are able to make the only correct decision in time and be responsible for it? Many military experts believe that, having successfully counterattacked in this direction, or in the gorge in front of Lachin, the Armenian side could well arrange a "cauldron" for the stretched enemy forces, possibly more than one. After that, there would have been no surrender of Shushi, no final defeat.

By forcing the Azerbaijani troops to suspend the offensive, move to actions to release their own encircled units, and then to the defense, the Armenian army could thwart the plans of Azerbaijan and Turkey regarding a "quick victorious war" and, inflicting unacceptable losses, force them to retreat. In the light of subsequent events, it becomes clear that this would be the maximum attainable success for her. Of course, no one is seriously talking about the "march to Baku". But then there would be no need to sign a humiliating peace, which actually means the disappearance of “free Artsakh”. The absence of defeat is sometimes a victory.
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  1. The leader of the Redskins
    The leader of the Redskins 21 December 2020 13: 54
    +10
    I haven't read anything new in the article ...
    1. Hunter 2
      Hunter 2 21 December 2020 14: 07
      +13
      Quote: Leader of the Redskins
      I haven't read anything new in the article ...

      And what could be read here New ??? Some stubbornly prepared for the War, others rested on the laurels of the "victors". HISTORY!!!
      Woe to the Defeated (s).
      I didn't want to add, but ... The Armenians just "skipped" what they could take earlier.
      1. Vladimir Mashkov
        Vladimir Mashkov 21 December 2020 18: 43
        +12
        Armenia could not win: the forces are not equal. She could not to lose! But for this it would be necessary that it was headed not by the cunning two-faced Pashinyan, but by a normal politician who good would understand that the only thing saving small Armenia in the big world is close and honest, without wagging and flirting on the side, alliance with Russia. Well carefully watch, don't be so careless. Everything else is secondary. I will say more: Armenia could gain a foothold in the occupied territories and leave them behind over time. But this chance was missed by the mediocre fool Pashinyan and his Co. forever!
        1. Vasiliev S.
          Vasiliev S. 24 December 2020 16: 04
          0
          Russia has clearly stated that Karabakh will not fit in.
          1. Vladimir Mashkov
            Vladimir Mashkov 24 December 2020 16: 08
            0
            Do you really nothing don't you understand or are you just pretending?
          2. Oleg Monarchist
            Oleg Monarchist 25 December 2020 00: 25
            +2
            Why, strictly speaking, should Russia "fit in" for Karabakh?
        2. madsnail1242
          madsnail1242 7 January 2021 00: 10
          -1
          "... in a close and honest, without wagging and flirting on the side, alliance with Russia!" - blah-blah-blah ... And what could Russia, itself resting on its laurels of 70-year-old victories, give the Armenians, in addition to outdated "analogue networks", and even on credit, but at cost? What conventional weapon do you have that you could oppose to the West? Maybe this bell is ringing not in Armenia, but already in you?
        3. Alexander Kalashnikov
          Alexander Kalashnikov 15 February 2021 23: 10
          +1
          You're right. Armenia could NOT win. But she could NOT lose. And - NOT at war. Not fighting at all.
          And for that she (Armenia) had to not run around the streets of Yerevan with posters in the style of "Russian occupation out of Armenia", but simply and simply RETURN to Russia. Together with Karabakh. A commercial year in 2014. Easy and simple. Posters all over Armenia in the style of "Together Forever!", A referendum on the Crimean model ... And it is unlikely that both in Armenia and in Russia there would be many who would be against it.
          And then there would be no "Karabakh conflict". Because no Azerbaijan, even "protected" by Turkey, would simply not dare to SEVERELY yelp at the "Transcaucasian Federal District of the Russian Federation" (as part of the Republic of Armenia and the Nagorno-Karabakh District of federal subordination).
          Gryzunistan tried yapping at Abkhazia and South Ossetia (which, we note, de jure are never Russia) - so in an instant he got hit by the horns and lost a third of the territory. And the rodents, let us note, were not "covered" by some kind of Turkey, but by the Citadel of "democracy" itself - that is, a radiant dance, the All-world hegemon, a model and standard.
          But the "Armenian-Armenians" did not want to return to Russia. Well, of course - the Evil Empire, "the whole world" will not approve, the Citadel of "democracy" will condemn and "sanction".
          Well, to the free - will. The collective farm is voluntary, as they say.
          Oh yes, "independence" ... A chair in the UN, the Tang embassy is right in Yerevan and the right for the THIRD time in a hundred years to shamefully screw up the war with the Turks. Proudly and independently. This is definitely a great value.
          And now let's compare the two republics for a laugh. Tatarstan, which was separated from Russia neither in 1918, nor in 1991, and Armenia. Tataria, which remained in a poor, hungry and completely undemocratic Russia and a proud and incredibly "independent" Armenia, which was separated from Russia TWICE.
          Armenia:
          Territory - 29 743 km² (+ Karabakh, ≈11 500 km²)
          Population - 2 986 100 people. (+ Karabakh, ≈ 150 932 people)
          The number of Armenians in the Russian Federation is more than 2,5 million.
          GDP (nominal) - USD 12,4 billion
          GDP (nominal) per capita - USD 4 (238)
          Tartary:
          Territory - 67 847 km²
          Population - 3 902 642 people. (including Tatars - 2 people, 012%)
          The number of Tatars in the Russian Federation (outside Tatarstan) is 3 people.
          GRP (nominal) - 2 billion rubles. (469,2 billion USD)
          GRP (nominal) per capita - 633,7 thousand rubles. (7 970 USD)
          Yes, of course, Tatarstan is a PART of Russia and is NOT an independent state.
          But you will not eat "independence". She is inedible.
          So what is the meaning of Armenian "independence" if HALF of the people still live in Russia?
          What, someone can argue that Armenians in Russia are “oppressed” or “discriminated against”?
          By the way: half of the Russian Tatars ALSO live outside the aisles of Tatarstan. And nothing, do not cough. And they, the Tatars, ALSO, no one in Russia "oppresses" or "discriminates".
          And, most importantly, no war.
      2. saigon
        saigon 22 December 2020 08: 51
        +4
        It's just that the simple truth is once again confirmed; a war cannot be won by defense.
    2. Megatron
      Megatron 21 December 2020 14: 07
      +13
      It's just that Pashinyan is an Armenian hump, the same traitor-sorose, that's all.
      And the Armenians of the whole world, shouted from the sofas, really nobody came to the war. Even with Armenia, there were just one or two volunteers.
      1. Snail N9
        Snail N9 21 December 2020 17: 36
        +13
        In fact, in some forums, the people are sure that the Russians informed the Armenians about the impending attack by the Azerbaijani side and even named when it would happen and, approximately, according to what scenario. In addition, ways were proposed on how to avoid an attack, or postpone it, or avoid serious losses. However, the Armenian leadership completely ignored all this, politely answering that they "took note of everything" and "thought it over". Naturally, we started some emergency contacts with the EU and the USA. God knows what the "common people" are and answered from the "bright city on the hill", but the Armenians calmed down. Like, there is nothing to worry about - "abroad will help us" ... As it turned out, they hoped in vain ...
        1. Volga073
          Volga073 31 December 2020 06: 13
          -1
          Pahan is a traitor to the people. I just wanted to sit out .. at random.
          Well, I ate 10 pieces of ties.
    3. Volga073
      Volga073 31 December 2020 06: 10
      -1
      What did you want new?
  2. 210ox
    210ox 21 December 2020 13: 57
    +14
    Yes, there was no chance there. The rulers in Yerevan dug the grave of Artsakh themselves, did not recognize him.
    1. Sofa batyr
      Sofa batyr 21 December 2020 14: 12
      +4
      Quote: 210ox
      The rulers in Yerevan dug the grave of Artsakh themselves, did not recognize him.

      It's not about recognition, or vice versa. Karabakh (Armenia) could have been defeated without the recognition procedure if you were ready for war.

      And in view of Pashinyan's policy, I agree -

      Quote: 210ox
      Yes, there was no chance there.
    2. ROMAN VYSOTSKY
      ROMAN VYSOTSKY 21 December 2020 15: 30
      -5
      What are the chances! Any Russian officer who has ever been involved in the planning of military operations will unequivocally say that from the beginning to almost the end (the defeat of the Russian helicopter and the introduction of peacekeepers was not planned), this "war" is a CONTRACTED war. This is just a bloody performance that was supposed to cover up Pashinyan's commitment to hand over Karabakh to Azerbaijan. Hence Pashinyan's inability to negotiate on Putin's reasonable proposals and ignoring information from the intelligence services of several countries about the preparation of aggression and the Olympic calmness of Azerbaijani and Turkish staff officers to move troops with uncovered flanks, not secured rear, pulling into narrowness without control over the peaks and all other miracles up to the assault on Shushi with daggers in hand. Complete nonsense and absurdity. Clean agreement.
      But, sadness, they did not calculate a little. Then the turntable was filled up and Putin was angry.
      And then the peacekeepers.
      We are waiting for the second series.
      1. Reviews
        Reviews 21 December 2020 15: 40
        +6
        Quote: ROMAN VYSOTSKY
        the turntable was filled up and Putin got angry.

        "Grieved" ??! Is this boiled pasta position "angry"? After this, at least, it was necessary to overwhelm an equivalent aircraft of Azerov or even strike at their serious military facility.
        1. ROMAN VYSOTSKY
          ROMAN VYSOTSKY 21 December 2020 16: 28
          -5
          So. Suppose you hit. And then what? but is it not worthy of revenge to destroy the agreement?
          1. Reviews
            Reviews 21 December 2020 16: 40
            0
            Quote: ROMAN VYSOTSKY
            So. Suppose you hit. And then what? but is it not worthy of revenge to destroy the agreement?

            What, to the tambourines, "revenge"? Our guys were killed. And Putin once again wiped himself off in the most shameful way.
            1. Megatron
              Megatron 21 December 2020 19: 41
              0
              But on a straight line he once again spoke about the miracle of the rocket.
              Why do we need these missiles if they do not fire.
            2. EvilLion
              EvilLion 22 December 2020 09: 17
              +6
              I understand that your knowledge and memory is like a goldfish, but the Pakistanis shot down a bunch of Soviet planes near their borders at one time. The USSR could definitely smudge anyone, but even he understood that it could easily turn out to be wrong in the border squabbles according to the law.
            3. ROMAN VYSOTSKY
              ROMAN VYSOTSKY 22 December 2020 10: 42
              +4
              I am writing about a treaty war, and you are all about Putin. Are you dreaming about it? If you are commenting, then comment on the merits and do not divert the discussion to insignificant details.
            4. Oleg Monarchist
              Oleg Monarchist 25 December 2020 00: 44
              0
              You are a direct keyboard general field marshal laughing read the news from Syria
          2. PROVINCIAL
            PROVINCIAL 23 December 2020 01: 59
            0
            The novel, more and more often readers are not capable of analysis. If you're not too lazy, see my comment from October 8th. Let me remind you. Date October 8. And messages from both sides on October 8th.
        2. EvilLion
          EvilLion 22 December 2020 09: 15
          +4
          Go and hit. With the famous organ on the table, you are good at it. By the way, economically Azerbaijan began to be flattened, otherwise a month has passed, where the promised investigation and punishment of those responsible.
      2. Dalmatia
        Dalmatia 23 December 2020 00: 10
        0
        the introduction of peacekeepers was not planned),
        --------------------
        Are you saying that the decision on the peacekeepers was made on the night of November 10, 2020?
        So how then to explain that it was the downed helicopter that accompanied the convoy of our peacekeepers on the evening of 9.11.20/XNUMX/XNUMX?
        And second, the speed of the transfer of the military group indicates that the military were already ready and were just waiting for the command to fly to Karabakh.
        1. ROMAN VYSOTSKY
          ROMAN VYSOTSKY 23 December 2020 20: 57
          +1
          It was a column of 102 military units from Gyumri. And the turntable from there. And these are not peacekeepers.
        2. ROMAN VYSOTSKY
          ROMAN VYSOTSKY 23 December 2020 21: 02
          0
          The speed of the transfer only indicates that the peacekeeping brigade is a compound of constant combat readiness and, according to combat calculation, is capable of starting loading on board a transport - an aircraft already in H + 1,5 after receiving an order.
          1. Dalmatia
            Dalmatia 24 December 2020 01: 05
            0
            Got it. Thanks for the answer.
      3. GKA72
        GKA72 5 January 2021 21: 21
        +2
        unfortunately it is no longer possible to just put you a bold PLUS, therefore, in words. The last straw in the fact that the war is negotiated, was the message about the personal participation of General Mammadov, a veteran of the first Karabakh, in the capture, liberation, whoever likes it, Shushi. The only non-docking, helicopter. I think that all the same the Turks shot down, to disrupt the agreements. The Turks had to reach the border with Armenia. Then Baku would have no territorial problems, welcome to NATO. And the traitors not only in Yerevan, there should be in Stepanokert.
  3. svp67
    svp67 21 December 2020 14: 06
    +8
    Could Armenia win, that is, just hold on to its original positions on everything? Yes I could. But to start the path to Victory, Armenia had to start with the RECOGNITION of Karabakh.
    1. SaLaR
      SaLaR 21 December 2020 22: 16
      +7
      First you had to get your asses off the Russian bazaars ... and go to die ... and not wait for a Russian soldier to die ...traders miscalculated
  4. Nyrobsky
    Nyrobsky 21 December 2020 14: 08
    +12
    You can argue a lot about what? as? why? and if? - however, the fact that Yerevan did not recognize the independence of Karabakh, or did not bother to hold a referendum on joining Armenia in this territory, no longer gave it the legal right to use the Armenian Armed Forces in full. In addition, after coming to power, Pashinyan cleared the clearing of objectionable security officials and the military, who did not share his aspirations to Europe, appointing in their places people loyal to the "revolution", but not particularly advanced in the military sphere. Otherwise, I agree with the author - while Baku was building up its capabilities in the upcoming war, Yerevan and Stepanakert rested on the laurels of their past victory, believing that they would shower the enemy with helmets and sapper blades.
    1. IS-80_RVGK2
      IS-80_RVGK2 21 December 2020 20: 29
      +1
      Very interesting. It turns out that Pashinyan is to blame for the fact that absolutely nothing has been done before him and that the economy of Great Armenia was in a permanent semi-swooning state? Pashinyan is of course still that fruit. But hanging all the dogs on him is a banal lie.
      1. Nyrobsky
        Nyrobsky 21 December 2020 21: 06
        0
        Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
        It turns out that Pashinyan is to blame for the fact that absolutely nothing has been done before him and that the economy of Great Armenia was in a permanent semi-swooning state?

        I believe that you are advocating for the idea of ​​placing a wreath on his head as a military strategist, peacemaker and economic genius? Maybe you will refute the fact that it was Pashinyan who cleared out the military command? Or do you disagree with the fact that Baku was preparing for war, and Yerevan and Stepanakert did not even bother to carry out normal engineering preparation of fortified areas and the front line of defense. At least as of May 2020, Baku did not have Bayraktar and the intention to acquire them from Turkey was announced only in the 20th of June of this year. While Pashinyan and his intelligence were flapping their ears, the Azerbaijanis lagged behind the UAV, the use of which, by and large, decided the outcome of the war in favor of Baku. Has your Pashinyan raised the semi-faint economy by many% after he came to power? No. Did you want to? Also no. The mechanism of action of these "revolutionaries", even in Ukraine, even in Yerevan, is the same - an imbalance and curtailment of relations with Russia, on which their economy basically rests, because their advisers receive salaries from the Soros fund. If before Pashinyan the economy was in a semi-swoon, now it has generally gone into a deep coma.
        Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
        But hanging all the dogs on him is a banal lie

        You have a great opportunity to prove the opposite by bringing down "lies", facts with objective refutations. Waiting hi
        1. IS-80_RVGK2
          IS-80_RVGK2 22 December 2020 04: 20
          +1
          Did you read my comment carefully? Or, as usual, immediately engaged in lies and demagoguery? Do you think Pashinyan ruined the fortified areas of Artsakh and the economy of Armenia in two years? He defeated the army, bringing it to a completely insane state, and by the way, how did he do it in the very Artsakh which is not recognized under him and what is interesting before him a lot of years by the previous leadership of Armenia and which has its own leaders? Some kind of evil genius. And finally, the very fact that the Pashinyans have seized power suggests that, to put it mildly, everything was wrong in the Armenian kingdom. Actually, only the lazy one did not write about the deplorable long-term state of the Armenian economy.
          1. onstar9
            onstar9 23 December 2020 05: 46
            +3
            By the way, not everyone here knows that the leadership of Karabakh did not really want to be recognized by Armenia, because this would fetter their "international" independence and to some extent would have to submit to Armenia. And everyone wants to "steer", of course. The fact that they once "defeated" Azerbaijan, they considered it their merit, not Armenia's. Of course, Armenia did everything it could, but the main thing was done, of course, by the people of Karabakh, and not by the people of Yerevan. Therefore, the "Krabakhites" did not really want to "lie" under Armenia. And they were sure that they would win any war with the Azerbaijanis, when last time they easily defeated and even took away a bunch of regions. It was this conceit that ruined them now. But ... it's too late to drink Borzhom. Pashinyan, by the way, is not at all to blame. He acted like a reasonable and democratic ruler. I could not do everything in such a terrible situation from all sides ...
          2. Flavius
            Flavius 11 January 2021 21: 16
            0
            Yes, what are you saying? For 2,5 years not to make engineering fortifications ???! 2,5 years!!! Are you aware that Aliyev took over in 2018 not only there, but also in Nakhchivan, as soon as Pashinyan came to power? And what prevented him from returning? Do you know that there was even a clearing cut down by one general for the passage of the Turks? Demagogue just you!

            No evidence other than empty ranting. It is clear to any sane and at least somehow familiar, unlike you, with military affairs - that there was a sale of the life of defenders and territory!

            Even for those actions after the war, 60 days - Pashinyan's zero actions to strengthen defenses - are supposed to be SHOT! He could already prepare for the Third War, not he, he is a corrupt zits-chairman from the Levonovskys-Soros.

            Let me remind you that the current President of Armenia Armen Sargsyan, together with Ter-Petrosyan, kicked in the ass when they tried to sell Artsakh and carry out exactly this payment with the road through Nakhchivan through the territory of Armenia. And then Vazgen, who threw them out and was against this Anglo-Turkish plan, is killed and brought down on the Karabakh people.

            Where are Aliyev's war crimes cases? Even Iran wrote about this in its press? Why is Pashinyan silent?

            Attempts to buy the Armenian leadership by the Aliyevs were posted online - if the predecessors refused, then Pashinyan came to power in order to profitably sell Artsakh for one thing and deprive the influence of the "Karabakh clan".

            And the one who justifies this feeble-minded Pashinyan gets his feeble-mindedness.
            1. IS-80_RVGK2
              IS-80_RVGK2 13 January 2021 01: 58
              0
              I don't care about the tantrums of Nzhdeh's grandchildren. This is the first thing. And secondly, what the fuck is 2,5 years? Or is it a special unique great Armenian chronology? Where year for 10 years goes.
              1. Flavius
                Flavius 16 January 2021 02: 42
                0
                2,5 years is Pashinyan's stay in power, if you haven't guessed.
                1. IS-80_RVGK2
                  IS-80_RVGK2 16 January 2021 15: 22
                  0
                  You are very difficult to understand. You have very vaguely formulated your thoughts. In any case, Pashinyan can only be blamed for what he did or did not do himself.
  5. Pessimist22
    Pessimist22 21 December 2020 14: 10
    +4
    After a fight, they do not wave their fists.
  6. Avior
    Avior 21 December 2020 14: 12
    +12
    ... Whether someone likes it or not, this is not entirely the case. So could Armenia have won the battle for Nagorno-Karabakh?

    The author's style is funny. First he gives the answer, and then he asks the question.
    Is it so that the reader does not think about his question inadvertently and does not come up with his own answer?
    Ay, author, if Armenia attacked Azerbaijan so openly, as you suggest, it would have to fight for every inch of not Artsakh, but Armenia, right up to the loss of statehood. Do the Armenians need it?
  7. Stirbjorn
    Stirbjorn 21 December 2020 14: 15
    +13
    Iskander and Tochki U, "Terribly silent" all four months
    Maybe I misunderstood the author, but what came to peaceful Ganja?
    1. alekszeit
      alekszeit 22 December 2020 00: 17
      +1
      Elbrus, an old rocket with an accuracy of km per km. Did she destroy the Turkish F16s that everyone was screaming about? No. Maybe a drone base?
  8. pytar
    pytar 21 December 2020 14: 22
    +14
    I strongly doubt that Armenia could have won, even on theory. No. The main reason, I think, is still in the technological retention of the Armenians. The drones circling continuously over Karabakh, striking everything and everywhere, obviously greatly undermined the morale of the Armenian soldiers. It is difficult to fight when you are visible in full view and nowhere to hide! And there is little that you can do against these annoying things! Even if you knock down, it turns out that you knocked down the iron, but "it" can really kill you! In fact, Armenians fought in two-dimensional space (2D), and Azerbaijanis in three-dimensional space (3D)! hi
    1. Dimide
      Dimide 21 December 2020 14: 40
      +3
      Absolutely agree with you.
      I think that the video where the UAV is shooting entire units with impunity was used as one of the elements of psychological warfare, to create in the population a sense of hopelessness of confrontation with the Armed Forces of Azerbaijan
      1. pytar
        pytar 21 December 2020 16: 17
        +5
        ... UAVs shoot entire units with impunity, was used as one of the elements of psychological warfare, to create a sense of hopelessness among the population of confrontation with the Armed Forces of Azerbaijan

        The fact is that the massive use of drones provided the Azerbaijani army with control on the battlefield. The advantage of the UAV is that the operator, working remotely, remains invulnerable. This war is similar to a computer war, only an operator sitting at a computer kills living people, and the Armenians could kill a “computer” at most, while they could not do it. This fact could not but have a crushing psychological effect on the Armenians. The loss of a drone cannot be compared to the loss of a person. Soon there will be full robotization / artificial intelligence / means of warfare, which really puts everyone in an extremely difficult situation who cannot answer adequately. hi
        1. Dimide
          Dimide 21 December 2020 16: 33
          -1
          And again I agree! good
          The main thing is that Skynet does not rebel and does not decide that people are superfluous at its holiday bully
          1. pytar
            pytar 21 December 2020 16: 45
            +1
            The main thing is that Skynet does not rebel and does not decide that people are superfluous at its holiday

            Favorite topic in science fiction movies! By the way, the fears are not without fundamental! Because ... the future has already come ... The self-learning artificial intelligence can draw conclusions incompatible with human life ... what Oddly enough, Skynet has some reason! After all, man, having disturbed the balance of nature, has become a global parasite that frightens its very existence! sad
            And no one really knows what the biosphere's destiny is? Maybe only as an incubator / workshop for the next round in evolution - the emergence of a non-biological super-mind! After all, mechanical systems do not have those limitations than in biology!
            1. Dimide
              Dimide 21 December 2020 16: 57
              -4
              I watched a video where a robot (in my opinion at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology) attacked a person, knocked him down and tried to trample on. The cause of the failure was not found out.
              1. pytar
                pytar 21 December 2020 17: 13
                +1
                I watched a video where a robot (in my opinion at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology) attacked a person, knocked him down and tried to trample on. The cause of the failure was not found out.

                Well ... in fact it was a funny video where, through special effects in the video, images of a real person from a robot were replaced ... wassat This is what reality looks like:

                And back in 2016, they spread fake "In China, a robot attacked a human for the first time in history."
                https://rg.ru/2016/11/18/v-kitae-robot-vpervye-v-istorii-napal-na-cheloveka.html
                https://www.eg.ru/tech/58783/
                In essence, a software failure occurred and the robot began to perform arbitrary uncontrolled movements, which led to a breakdown of a part of the stand.
                The employee tried to jerk the cables, but accidentally collided with the "freaked out" robot. laughing
                1. Dimide
                  Dimide 21 December 2020 17: 21
                  0
                  Not this video, it was on four bones, remember before there was a gymnastic apparatus (does not miss the site - husband of a goat laughing ) something like this
      2. Megatron
        Megatron 21 December 2020 19: 43
        -4
        Well, how to say, they would hit with dots, iskanders, on the Nakraynyak dam, so they didn't need Artsakh. Wiped off.
        1. onstar9
          onstar9 23 December 2020 06: 01
          +3
          Quote: Megatron
          Well, how to say, they would hit with dots, iskanders, on the Nakraynyak dam, so they didn't need Artsakh. Wiped off.

          And they would have hit the Armenian nuclear power plant (at the extreme) .... So shall we speak?
    2. Reviews
      Reviews 21 December 2020 15: 19
      0
      Quote: pytar
      I strongly doubt that Armenia could have won, even on theory. No. The main reason, I think, is still in the technological retention of the Armenians.

      In theory, the 1939/40 Red Army had a technological and numerical advantage over Finland. The Finns have shown themselves very worthy. In theory, the Third Reich had an overwhelming advantage over Poland, but the Poles held out for a long time. In theory, France had every chance of throwing the Third Reich back, but it all ended with the declaration of Paris as an open city.
      Indeed, much is decided by the political will and talent of military leaders.
      1. pytar
        pytar 21 December 2020 16: 31
        +3
        In theory, the 1939/40 Red Army had a technological and numerical advantage over Finland. The Finns have shown themselves very worthy.

        With all that, the Finns ultimately suffered a heavy defeat.
        In theory, the Third Reich had an overwhelming advantage over Poland, but the Poles held out for a long time

        The Poles fought heroically, but ... were defeated in just 27 days.
        In theory, France had every chance of throwing the III Reich back

        According to the theory based on the outdated experience of the First World War. France suffered a crushing defeat in just 1 month and 12 days.
        Indeed, much is decided by the political will and talent of military leaders.

        And there is! If they do not take into account technological progress and are guided by outdated concepts, they are doomed to failure. hi When the technology gap is large and military science is lagging behind, courage won't help.

        Leo's bravery does not save him from the hunter's bullet ... hi
        1. Reviews
          Reviews 21 December 2020 16: 39
          -4
          Quote: pytar

          With all that, the Finns ultimately suffered a heavy defeat.

          The Poles fought heroically, but ... were defeated in just 27 days.


          According to the theory based on the outdated experience of the First World War. France suffered a crushing defeat in just 1 month and 12 days.

          You didn’t understand anything ... Well, that means you don’t understand.
          1. pytar
            pytar 21 December 2020 16: 55
            +3
            You didn’t understand anything ... Well, that means you don’t understand.

            And I will advise you, they will express themselves more clearly. With the presence of capacity, this is quite possible. hi
            1. Reviews
              Reviews 22 December 2020 04: 22
              -3
              Quote: pytar
              You didn’t understand anything ... Well, that means you don’t understand.

              And I will advise you, they will express themselves more clearly.

              I was extremely simple in terms.
      2. EvilLion
        EvilLion 22 December 2020 09: 35
        +3
        In theory, the 1939/40 Red Army had a technological and numerical advantage over Finland.


        I have already made sure that you have serious problems with knowledge of history, well, educate yourself, the Finns managed to quite successfully carry out covert mobilization and significantly increase the size of the army, so that in December 39, the ratio of forces against the Red Army turned out to be almost 1: 1, 86 to 80 settlement battalions EMNIP. Of course, the Red Army did not make any progress, and even when trying to bypass the line of fortifications, a number of commanders of the formations showed themselves unprofessional, ditching a bunch of people. It was only over the winter that the Red Army pulled up its reserves and received about the classic 3: 1 for breaking through the defense, after which the Finns were very quickly blown away. At the same time, they could not have raked, Mannerheim, the same was not stupid, and agreed to the Soviet proposals, but from the West the Finns were promised help, which never came, the USSR, pulling up strength, figured it out quickly, and soon they received help from Adolf, who settled for a long time on their island.

        In theory, France was considered the strongest in Europe, it turned out that the technique of using mobile connections among the Germans is much higher. Maybe something would have happened, the Germans somewhere would not have been able to quickly solve the assigned tasks, and the war, as in 1914, would have turned into a relative positioning, but this is not fate, so not fate, although we would be alone from this pluses were.
    3. EvilLion
      EvilLion 22 December 2020 09: 22
      0
      A drone with a combat load of 2 small bombs is, of course, a terrible weapon. Where there are F-16 and Su-35. But despite the fact that a UAV with a suspended grenade has long been a commonplace in Iraq, no one has managed to break through Khmeinim's air defense so far.
  9. prior
    prior 21 December 2020 14: 35
    +2
    And I am interested in the question, what is there with the answer for the downed Russian helicopter?
    Or our "tops", as always, have blurred the question and no one will answer for anything?
    Yes, for such things it would be worthwhile to land the entire Azerbaijani aviation together with Turkish drones. Or were bribes from the diaspora shut down the mouths of officials?
    1. vvvjak
      vvvjak 21 December 2020 14: 58
      0
      "Moscow and Baku are in a state of regular and very close constructive dialogue on all issues," RIA Novosti reports Peskov's answer to the question whether Azerbaijan is cooperating with Russia on the investigation of the downed Russian helicopter and what the Kremlin knows about the progress of this investigation.
      Today I read on "Vzglyad"
  10. bar
    bar 21 December 2020 14: 38
    +2
    Yerevan did almost everything possible for its own defeat.

    One could stop at this, and not crush water in a mortar ...
  11. Paul Siebert
    Paul Siebert 21 December 2020 14: 39
    +10
    Could Armenia win the battle for Nagorno-Karabakh

    History does not tolerate the subjunctive mood.
    But the answer, it seems to me, is obvious - with such a leadership of the republic, no! ..
    It was not necessary to lead round dances in Shusha, pulling Aliyev by the mustache, not to build eyes on the Americans and humiliate the Russians at the processions in Yerevan, but to really engage in strengthening the defense of the unrecognized republic.
    And one more inexplicable thing is the lack of soldiers in the Armenian trenches.
    Not enough volunteers? Did you somehow need to motivate them additionally?
    How?
    Money? Special benefits? Amnesty for prisoners?
    Both laughter and sin - if you look at the production line-up of most Russian TV series, they are all Armenians.
    And on the front line there is a shortage of personnel.
    The homeland will not defend itself. Even if you give her some money. From the master's shoulder ...
    The homeland defends itself with the blood shed by its patriots.
    If, of course, they are real sons of their Fatherland ... wink
  12. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 21 December 2020 14: 47
    -3
    Well .... politics is a dark matter, to put it mildly. The USSR was merged by Yeltsin, Hitler burned down the Reichstag, Roosevelt - Pearl Harble (these generally have experience starting with the cruiser Maine and ending with the World Trade Center, perhaps even more), Donbas, Crimea - Poroshenko, Karabakh - Pashinyan.
    Well ... against the background of the USSR, Karabakh looks even funny. fool
    Considering Karabakh from the point of view of military capabilities, this corresponds to: Because there was no nail in the forge... So wipe away your tears and drool, everything is decided on the floor above. The Armenians made their choice 2 years earlier and continue to dance with a tambourine. They will throw off Pashinyan and .... They will put the next one, no worse. He guarantees them revenge and Armenia will again get it for good luck (Israel, too, for how many years has it been getting a trouble-free life?). The future war looks out from both sides. request Output:
    Georgia, Armenia, Azerbaijan - Confederation. And the umbrella of Russia.
    1. sgrabik
      sgrabik 21 December 2020 18: 45
      -1
      The USSR was merged by Gorbachev, and Yeltsin only completed the destruction of the great state begun by Gorbaty !!!
      1. Mavrikiy
        Mavrikiy 22 December 2020 09: 41
        0
        Quote: sgrabik
        The USSR was merged by Gorbachev, and Yeltsin only completed the destruction of the great state begun by Gorbaty !!!

        Clear. If not for Gorbachev, they would have lived further in the USSR. fool
        Gorbachev was the spokesman for the interests of not a group, a layer of corrupt members of power structures, these are tens of thousands of people.
  13. vitvit123
    vitvit123 21 December 2020 14: 48
    +1
    So it seems that Armenia was not a party to the conflict .... where does the su, Iskander, point ....? They mix everything together and think, why ...
    1. Suleyman
      Suleyman 21 December 2020 16: 26
      0
      Who were you negotiating with for 28 years?
      1. vitvit123
        vitvit123 21 December 2020 19: 26
        -1
        Maybe Armenia was one of the parties to the negotiations, but it was not a party to the conflict ... if it did harness, then no one really noticed ...
  14. Kronos
    Kronos 21 December 2020 14: 59
    +3
    As if the mobilization helped - there were several thousand more corpses. This is the 40s of the 20th century when you can put recruits to the guns or give them faus cartridges and they will stop the offensive even at the cost of their death. Now they will be killed from the air.
  15. alex aircraft
    alex aircraft 21 December 2020 15: 20
    +6
    Why should Russian sappers die in Karabakh? Why is humanitarian aid again funded from the RF budget? And where is the 1.5 million Armenian diaspora in Russia ??
    1. SaLaR
      SaLaR 21 December 2020 22: 21
      +2
      Go to the nearest market ... you will see the glorious and brave sons of Armenia ... laughing
  16. Vladimir61
    Vladimir61 21 December 2020 15: 23
    +5
    Recognition of Karabakh and Armenia's entry into the war did not officially decide anything! This could lead to the denunciation of the Collective Protection Treaty.
    ... and at the forefront, there was a critical shortage of combat-ready personnel.
    It's only half the trouble! Based on the stories from the front line and the number of deaths on both sides, the soldiers of Armenia fought with dignity. But how to fight, if in the plots more than once they showed guns standing (abandoned) in positions, without shells, armored vehicles without fuel, I really don't know what they ate there and how they licked their wounds.
    There are many reasons for the defeat and they have different roots, but they all boil down to one thing - the mediocre, sometimes challenging and divorced "era" of the rule of Pashinyan and his team!
    If he is being "protected" now, it is only because a change of power could lead to a second round of war.
    1. zenion
      zenion 21 December 2020 20: 12
      -2
      The Armenians have done something stupid. They immediately retreated beyond the Urals without even trying to catch on to the Volga River.
  17. zenion
    zenion 21 December 2020 20: 11
    +6
    Of course, the Armenians could have won if the Azerbaijanis had not interfered with them.
  18. Bilal
    Bilal 21 December 2020 23: 16
    -3
    Quote: prior
    And I am interested in the question, what is there with the answer for the downed Russian helicopter?
    Or our "tops", as always, have blurred the question and no one will answer for anything?
    Yes, for such things it would be worthwhile to land the entire Azerbaijani aviation together with Turkish drones. Or were bribes from the diaspora shut down the mouths of officials?


    Russia received a thing much better than a bribe ... This is the BASE ... MILITARY ... One of the many that protect your own interests ... The helicopter crew died (let the earth rest in peace ... hi hi ) not in vain...
    1. alekszeit
      alekszeit 22 December 2020 00: 29
      0
      she was there. Do you know how much it costs and what is the use of it for Russia?
  19. rusboris
    rusboris 22 December 2020 00: 22
    +2
    Resisting for decency, the lady conceded.
  20. Bilal
    Bilal 22 December 2020 06: 47
    0
    Quote: alekszeit
    she was there. Do you know how much it costs and what is the use of it for Russia?


    I didn't mean the base in Armenia. And the new base in Azerbaijan ...
  21. vervolk
    vervolk 22 December 2020 08: 50
    0
    I will leave outside the commentary my opinion about the naive pathos about the "will of the leadership" and other hard-to-measure categories. Directly on the military side. I see that lately it has become a common place to say that the absence of long-term well-fortified positions was a mistake of the Armenian leadership. What are we talking about? the whole modern history of military art, suggests that the days of Sedan and Verdun are over. What would have happened if all such Armenians had built a defense line like a fortified area? But nothing. actually the same as with the lines of Maginot, Mannerheim, Stalin, the Kwantung army and the Japanese fortified areas on the islands. In general, such a line of defense would mean that the defending side lost control over the initiative and suffered heavy losses. After all, a static defense of this kind allows you to open such nodes in parts, while at the same time it connects the most defended, forced to "hold" the entire line. The reason for the defeat of Karabakh was not the lack of engineering fortifications on the defense line, but the lack of tactical actions for active defense, attempts to cut supply routes to create a boiler or strike into the depth of deployment - which in the conditions of mountainous difficult terrain was quite possible ...
  22. yuri.
    yuri. 22 December 2020 09: 45
    +7
    Armenia could not win for several reasons. First; they took over foreign land. They understood this and did not want to fight for foreign land. Second; carried out a number of ethnic cleansing in Armenia. The Azerbaijanis were expelled completely, Russians from 73 thousand were left 14 thousand, etc. Thus, they made it clear to all non-Armenian volunteers who fought for Armenia in 1992-93 that they (the volunteers) were just cannon fodder to defend the interests of Armenian nationalists. All non-Armenian national public schools in the country were closed. Third; the foreign policy of their state was built on the basis of the superiority of the Armenian nation over other nations. They were repeatedly offered to voluntarily liberate the seized 7 regions of Azerbaijan (excluding Nagorno-Karabakh). Therefore, they did not acquire, but, on the contrary, lost allies. And most importantly: they are used to living off the resources of foreign states. And everything else is from the evil one. They (the Armenians) dragged Russia into this conflict, hoping to resolve their issues at the expense of Russia's resources and, frankly, achieved their goal. We are guarding the border of Armenia with Iran, Turkey, and now we will also guard with Azerbaijan. Name at least someone at which other state its borders are guarded by the border guards of another state, for so. Now we are restoring Nagorno-Karabakh at the expense of the Russian budget. Isn't this a victory of the Armenians in relation to Russia? Our Foreign Ministry and our media portray the deployment of our peacekeepers as a certain victory of Russia in this conflict. Russia seems to have stopped the war, but it is not. Russia could have solved this problem by economic and political measures much earlier, if it had not played along with the Armenian nationalists in its time. Russia "did not notice" when a monument to Hitler's ally Nzhdeh was erected in Yerevan (opened by our president's friend Serge), when a plaque to this fascist henchman was opened in Armavir (Krasnodar), and when city residents demanded to be removed, it did not react, etc. Our Foreign Ministry has wiped it out, and now it is screaming about Russia's victory in this conflict, so Armenia was saved at the expense of Russia. We must give them their due, they turned everything better than England.
  23. Kostadinov
    Kostadinov 22 December 2020 13: 26
    -4
    Armenia could win if it had superiority in technology or people, and even better, both.
    Approximately the same losses kill both sides show that superiority in technology did not beat anyone.
  24. Scorpio05
    Scorpio05 22 December 2020 19: 47
    +4
    Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
    Did you read my comment carefully? Or, as usual, immediately engaged in lies and demagoguery? Do you think Pashinyan ruined the fortified areas of Artsakh and the economy of Armenia in two years? He defeated the army, bringing it to a completely insane state, and by the way, how did he do it in the very Artsakh which is not recognized under him and what is interesting before him a lot of years by the previous leadership of Armenia and which has its own leaders? Some kind of evil genius. And finally, the very fact that the Pashinyans have seized power suggests that, to put it mildly, everything was wrong in the Armenian kingdom. Actually, only the lazy one did not write about the deplorable long-term state of the Armenian economy.

    That's right, now the team went like this (especially among the Armenians of the Russian Federation, and in Armenia itself), to write off the lost war on N. Pashinyan, they say it was not the army of Armenia created for almost 3 decades that was defeated by the Azerbaijani Armed Forces, but it was Pashinyan's army.
    Dexterously the Armenians and comrades from the Russian Federation (and not only the Armenians, by the way) supporting this trend, hung all the dogs on Pashinyan. It turns out that he massively deserted from the army, gathered in crowds in the squares, shouted slogans and smashed government offices, instead of proving his patriotism at the front.
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  28. KreAtiF
    KreAtiF 23 December 2020 09: 02
    0
    I just can't understand one thing: did the Armenian army officially participate in the conflict? Or tried to conduct military operations through the armed forces of Nagorno-Karabakh?
  29. Samirdoc
    Samirdoc 23 December 2020 18: 25
    0
    If grandma had eggs, she would be grandfather. A suitable title for this article.
  30. illuminat
    illuminat 23 December 2020 22: 09
    0
    Quote: yuri.
    Armenia could not win for several reasons.

    He said everything right. Ours have long been able to resolve the conflict, and get the base without casualties.
  31. Andrey Novoseltsev
    Andrey Novoseltsev 24 December 2020 09: 36
    0
    the article is correct and speaks of the essence of what happened. this war was essentially the drain of Artsakh by this mankurt Pashinyan. he declared in the country and compared this war with the Sardarapat battle without knowing the history of this battle and not even knowing the essence of the Karabakh problem, etc., in short it obviously led to the defeat of Karabakh, because it was necessary to work out the received $ 5
  32. Seal
    Seal 25 December 2020 09: 35
    0
    Quote: Vladimir Mashkov
    that the only salvation of small Armenia in the big world lies in a close and honest alliance with Russia, without wagging and flirting on the side.
    Many would like to be in alliance with us. But why do we need an alliance with them? It is much more preferable for us to have rich Azerbaijan as our allies, which is located in the place that we need an order of magnitude more than the location of Armenia than this Armenia.
    I will say more: Armenia could gain a foothold in the occupied territories and leave them with itself over time.
    Unlikely. Russia has always recognized the territorial integrity of Azerbaijan. And if Armenia showed excessive activity, then we would simply cut off the gas to Armenia. And they would have kicked her out of the CSTO.
    But this chance was missed by the mediocre fool Pashinyan and his Co. forever!
    What happened would have happened regardless of who was at the helm. It's just that the situation is ripe for Azerbaijan.
    In the US elections, Russia is again friends with Turkey and cooperates with it on a wide range of issues, including military issues, Russia is already under many sanctions, Azerbaijan has shown that it is not an enemy to us ... and so on.
    Armenia fought in Karabakh. But she could not openly start using our Iskander and Sushki. For while Armenia was at war in Karabakh, as it were, implicitly, we could close our eyes to the fact that, as Arayik Harutyunyan said, 90% of the "Artsakh army" were conscripts from Armenia. But if Armenia came out openly, then we would have to stop Armenia, perhaps by force. Well, it goes without saying that Turkey would get an excellent legitimate reason to strike Armenia from the rear. And we could not object to anything. One could only persuade Turkey to wait 2-3 days with a blow to Armenia, during which we would promise to deal with Armenia ourselves and stop it. But if they had not stopped, we would not have stopped Turkey from hitting Armenia. But maybe only purely peaceful Armenian objects would be protected.
  33. Seal
    Seal 25 December 2020 09: 47
    0
    Quote: svp67
    But to start the path to Victory, Armenia had to start with the RECOGNITION of Karabakh.
    This meant falling out with Russia and with the whole world. After all, we and the whole world recognized the territorial integrity of Azerbaijan within the internationally recognized borders. Armenia was already admitted to the CSTO with gross violations. In fact, the CSTO simultaneously (almost) accepted Armenia and Azerbaijan, as it were, in the hope that the conflict could be resolved, so to speak, in a narrow family circle. But it didn't work out. So after the recognition of Karabakh, Armenia would inevitably leave the CSTO. But Azerbaijan could well return to the CSTO.
  34. xomaNN
    xomaNN 27 December 2020 17: 13
    0
    The Armenians themselves put a pig on themselves by agreeing to the adventurist Pashinyan in the elections. And rightly so ...

    Russia had just held them on the edge, otherwise nobody would have remembered Nag. Karab, and even more so Artsakh.
  35. Selevc
    Selevc 27 December 2020 21: 33
    +1
    Has anyone seen a photo of Armenian Levels ??? I have not personally seen it and I find it very strange. Since I always imagined Armenian Karabakh as a kind of modern analogue of the Maginot Line ... All photos show hastily prepared positions ... Especially on the southern flank of Karabakh - where the terrain is flat like a table, in theory there should be some special fortifications - and especially carefully a well-thought-out defense system ... In 25 years the Armenians had to dig deep into the depths and build capital defensive positions, especially in mountainous areas.

    But the course of the war itself, and especially the attitude of the Armenian elite to the war, show that the Armenians, according to the idea of ​​their leadership, should have slaughtered the enemy with sabers ... This very much looks like a deliberate setup of the Armenian people from Sir Pashinyan and to.
  36. Volga073
    Volga073 31 December 2020 06: 09
    0
    I am plowing.
  37. Volga073
    Volga073 31 December 2020 06: 17
    0
    When Aliyev offered him $ 5B
    I think Pahan still took a small particle.
    Well, it's not just that he betrayed everyone and everything.
  38. dmitriygorshkov
    dmitriygorshkov 3 January 2021 11: 54
    0
    All this is certainly true. But there is a very important addition. Armenia, whose people are settled all over the world, declared, including at the official level, that Armenians from all over the world would flock to defend their native Armenia. They will take off their last pants and buy a lot of weapons and hire millions of armies. Did we see something similar? I have many Armenian friends and acquaintances. I didn't want to quarrel with them, but still I asked why they are still in Russia and not in Karabakh. Everyone had plausible excuses. And some I began to respect even more, those who said that their home was Russia and would fight only for Russia. The mobilization resource is very small without emigrants. And emigration does not live by thoughts of their historical homeland.
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  40. Armen Sologyan
    Armen Sologyan 20 January 2021 19: 15
    0
    This is ridiculous !!! How could Armenia alone win the war with a surprise attack by Azerbaijan and NATO member Turkey ???? Many years have passed since Nagorno-Karabakh, like all the republics of the former USSR, decided to leave the USSR, and over the years Turkey has been actively preparing Azerbaijan so that it does not lose territory, which it acquired in 1920 under an agreement between Lenin and Turkey. new formation azerbaijan ssr. Well, of course, they spread a fake that Pashinyan is a close friend of Soros, whom he was not. Well, he shook hands with Soros, many people shake hands with Soros, but they do it, either as Soros wants, like in the 90s in Russia, or they simply ignore Soros. Pashinyan was disliked as a leader, who began to do something for his people and he was in power for 2 years. It is impossible to prepare an army in 2 years, but what did the former leaders of Armenia do, how did they prepare the army before Pashinyan, why did not they prepare it, why was everything pushed to Pashinyan ????? Yes, to remove Pashinyan and return the interest on loans that Pashinyan canceled. Pashinyan dared to approve a mortgage loan of 4% for young families, and before Pashinyan it was above 20% !!!! I do not live in Armenia and Yerevan, but I have information from my relatives and my opinion when I saw Pashinyan on TV. Pashinyan's appearance and eyes tell me a lot, I trust him like Vladimir Putin. Only Vladimir Putin came from the beginning of the 21st century and did 95% of useful things for the Citizens of the Russian Federation, and Nikola Pashinyan has only been in power for 2 years, has also done a lot, and could have done even more if not for this insidious attack by the enemies of Armenia.
  41. Borka
    Borka 3 February 2021 07: 31
    0
    This author Kharaluzhny thinks like a child. As if he began to compose a fairy tale like the book The Wizard of the Emerald City. I have never seen such reasoning more stupidly.
  42. sirim
    sirim 19 February 2021 20: 17
    0
    An article about what - if my grandmother had .... she would be a grandfather. In this situation, the Armenians did not have a single chance.
    As the proverb says, "if you lose your head you don't cry through your hair." In my opinion, the Armenians did not even understand that Russia kept a part of Karabakh for them !? If they don't cool down, they will lose everything!
  43. Valentin spagis
    Valentin spagis 21 February 2021 14: 14
    0
    The Americans gave the Armenians an orange enema. As a result, the orange Pashinyan came to power, the institutions of Soros began to operate in Armenia, the staff of the American embassy increased by 2 thousand people, the broadcasts of Russian television were banned, everything that somehow had anything to do with Russia was persecuted. And as an additional portion of the orange liquid, the Americans arranged the drain of Karabakh. Well done Americans. The Armenians were well taught about democracy.
  44. Maxim Z.
    Maxim Z. 8 March 2021 16: 42
    0
    again an article from the category "if my grandmother ....."