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In the Ukrainian design bureau "Luch": the Ministry of Defense does not provide funds for the production of the "Neptune" air defense missile system, but suggests creating a replacement for the S-300 air defense missile system

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In Ukraine, the incident with the coastal missile system "Neptune" manifested itself - thus, which certain "hotheads" in the NSDC and the military-political circles of Ukraine positioned as "capable of destroying the Crimean bridge." This complex was de jure put into service with the Armed Forces of Ukraine at the end of this summer. And on the basis of the plans of the Ministry of Defense, the battalion of the Neptune DBK should be delivered to the armed forces of Ukraine in 2021.


However, the incident is connected with the fact that de jure the complex is in service with the Armed Forces of Ukraine, and de facto it is actually an "exhibition model". The fact is that the leadership of the Luch Design Bureau, which developed this coastal missile system, states that there is no funding to assemble the DBK in the required quantity.

Oleg Korostelyov, general designer-general director of the Luch State Design Bureau, noted that the Ministry of Defense had not provided funds.

Oleg Korostelev:

This threatens that even if the funds are received, the enterprise simply will not have time to manufacture it (the division) in 2021.

In fact, there is a disruption to the plans for arming the Armed Forces of the BRK "Neptune", as reported by the management of the Ukrainian enterprise.

At the same time, the general director of Luch noted that, without providing funding for the production of Neptuns, the Ministry of Defense is already proposing "to start creating an air defense system to replace the S-300." The Ukrainian military department says that the new anti-aircraft missile system should "surpass the S-300 in a number of parameters." They just do not declare on what funds this complex will be created.
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  1. andrewkor
    andrewkor 20 December 2020 15: 07
    +10
    The good news, however, is from Nezalezhnaya. Keep up the good work!
    1. Hunter 2
      Hunter 2 20 December 2020 15: 13
      +11
      Who will give them to produce it? Even on "credit" British boats, an indispensable condition is the installation of Norwegian anti-ship missiles ... with which and "Congratulations" laughing non-brothers!
      1. Lionnvrsk
        Lionnvrsk 20 December 2020 18: 08
        +3
        And how they rode, how they rode !! repeat
    2. Orange bigg
      Orange bigg 20 December 2020 15: 13
      +9
      Korostelev pretends that he is inventing the anti-ship missiles, the Ukrainian Ministry of Defense pretends that these anti-ship missiles are buying.
      1. Lipchanin
        Lipchanin 20 December 2020 15: 23
        +1
        Quote: OrangeBigg
        Korostelev pretends that he is inventing the anti-ship missiles, the Ukrainian Ministry of Defense pretends that these anti-ship missiles are buying.

        And everybody pretends that
        "All is well beautiful marquise" (c)
      2. Hunter 2
        Hunter 2 20 December 2020 15: 34
        +2
        Quote: OrangeBigg
        Korostelev pretends that he is inventing the anti-ship missiles, the Ukrainian Ministry of Defense pretends that these anti-ship missiles are buying.

        Why is he inventing there? Neptune, an analogue of the Soviet X - 35 ... invented in the 70s laughing
        1. A good one
          A good one 20 December 2020 16: 27
          +3
          Quote: Hunter 2
          Why is he inventing there?

          Above him are worse than pigs and pigs sitting, and by their notes, he blows his pipe to get any convertible coin. Works. hi
          1. ul_vitalii
            ul_vitalii 20 December 2020 16: 38
            +5
            Quote: Not bad
            Fulfills

            Leaked did not merge, but for retirement or a dash across the Alps, as our respected commander, I'm ready, but it looks like Canada.
            1. Vasyan1971
              Vasyan1971 20 December 2020 20: 40
              +2
              Quote: ul_vitalii
              and for retirement or a dash across the Alps, as our respected commander, is ready

              Rather, like Pastor Schlag, who was also confused about skiing ...
      3. Bad_gr
        Bad_gr 20 December 2020 16: 13
        +1
        ..... In Ukraine, the incident with the coastal missile system "Neptune" manifested itself - the very one that certain "hotheads" in the NSDC and the military-political circles of Ukraine positioned as "capable of destroying the Crimean bridge" ...
        Here are the people .... The country is in the economic ..., and their heads are busy not with something to create, but how to shit on a neighbor.
    3. Orange bigg
      Orange bigg 20 December 2020 15: 22
      +2
      Quote: andrewkor
      The good news, however, is from Nezalezhnaya. Keep up the good work!


      Another piece of news from the Ukrainian big top: MiG-29 fighters of the Ukrainian Air Force are covered with ice. Photo on the link below.
      There is another problem in the units of the Ukrainian Air Force, this time the weather conditions served as a pretext for "zrada". Today, a huge number of photographs have appeared on the network, which capture the ice-covered fighters of the Ukrainian Air Force. This is the result of inappropriate storage of combat vehicles.

      Fighters of the Ukrainian Air Force MiG-29 iced up
      The published photographs show that the MiG-29 fighters are simply standing on the street and are protected from bad weather by pieces of tarpaulin that cover only some parts of the aircraft. It is impossible not to pay attention to the fact that the formed thick layer of ice damaged the wings of the aircraft, making them unsuitable for flight. Also, one of the frames shows a guided missile covered with a layer of ice. Who and in what military unit these shots were taken is not specified.

      https://zen.yandex.ru/media/id/5e184bafa1bb8700b26a3e2f/istrebiteli-ukrainskih-vvs-mig29-obledeneli-5fd754a95a2c8e1f2ca56d40
      1. Ratmir_Ryazan
        Ratmir_Ryazan 20 December 2020 16: 14
        0
        So we have the same thing in Russia with airplanes when it is freezing rain and frost.

        There is nothing to be surprised at, the years will be split off and fly.

        Although, of course, it is not clear why in our country and in Ukraine an airplane costing 30-50 million dollars is in the open air,
    4. A good one
      A good one 20 December 2020 15: 33
      +5
      Quote: andrewkor
      The good news, however, is from Nezalezhnaya. Keep up the good work!

      Yes, so that they broadcast this horn, or plug the bell, and the same corn stump from a bottle with vodka,.
    5. Plastmaster
      Plastmaster 20 December 2020 17: 37
      +2
      Quote: andrewkor
      The good news, however, is from Nezalezhnaya. Keep up the good work!

      Rogozin must be handed over to them. Here's the benefit. And they will have a huge amount of plans and it is good for us that only plans and the development of NATO money.
    6. venik
      venik 20 December 2020 19: 35
      +2
      Quote: andrewkor
      The good news, however, is from Nezalezhnaya. Keep up the good work!

      =====
      But what is the "news" here ??? One might think that someone doubted that the aforementioned "Neptune" would suffer the fate of all other "masterpieces" of the Ukrainian "defense industry", which (with rare exceptions): Yes", and actually(in reality) they seem to be like no! request
  2. Orange bigg
    Orange bigg 20 December 2020 15: 10
    +1
    In the Ukrainian design bureau "Luch": the Ministry of Defense does not provide funds for the production of the "Neptune" air defense missile system, but suggests creating a replacement for the S-300 air defense missile system

    Nice joke.
    The Ministry of Defense proposes "to start creating an air defense system to replace the S-300." The Ukrainian military department says that the new anti-aircraft missile system should "surpass the S-300 in a number of parameters." They just do not declare what funds this complex will be built on.

    The point is not about the means, but about who will create the air defense system there? Did they ever create an air defense system in Ukraine?
    1. Eug
      Eug 20 December 2020 17: 22
      0
      They tried to create a missile defense system based on the R-27. There is experience in modernizing the S-125.
  3. Dmitry Makarov
    Dmitry Makarov 20 December 2020 15: 19
    +1
    If the Ukrainians put a "peephole" on the newest tank instead of a surveillance system, then doubts arise in their ability to create an analogue of the S-300.
  4. A good one
    A good one 20 December 2020 15: 21
    +3
    Clear. And it turns out I twist, twist, on ... or I want to deceive. Change the pig to the boar, in terms of creating a space sausage from the outside.
  5. Machete
    Machete 20 December 2020 15: 27
    +3
    As if, a typical drank dough.
    One loot on Neptune was laundered, another should be laundered. Everything is logical.
  6. svp67
    svp67 20 December 2020 15: 29
    +6
    I don’t understand why the design bureau is still "Luch"? Why not "Promin"?
    And so, a purely corruption component, when it is more profitable for someone to push the Norwegian anti-ship missile system instead of producing their own. Tatra cars instead of KrAZ, American locomotives instead of their own, etc. and so on ... People who are now in power in Ukraine do not see their future with it ...
    In the meantime, there was a fire at the opening of the central Christmas tree in Kiev ... I hope that without casualties
  7. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 20 December 2020 15: 33
    +2
    Probably the rollback is not a big offer to the generals, but for an analogue of SZ00, the rollback of the generals arranged. So keep that they supported the market in vain.
    1. Vadim Zhivov
      Vadim Zhivov 20 December 2020 15: 58
      +2
      Yes, let the Death Star begin to sound right away. laughing That's where they will wash and roll away humanly good
  8. aleks neym_2
    aleks neym_2 20 December 2020 15: 41
    0
    Advertising! What will happen next? They will collect something from all the junk ... and here's the "newest" breakthrough in science and technology ... Maybe they'll blow mattresses?
  9. boriz
    boriz 20 December 2020 15: 52
    0
    This is how Square broke loose with Lukashenka and now Neptune was left without a wheelbase, a tractor.
    The Tatra will not pull, and Kraz is not able to produce the tractor independently, without Belarusians.
    The fool is richer with a thought ...
    Well, Ukraine is good, let it spend money for peaceful purposes. Although - they will still plunder.
  10. Ros 56
    Ros 56 20 December 2020 15: 58
    -1
    Well, do you have enough for bows and arrows? wassat
  11. V1er
    V1er 20 December 2020 16: 00
    +1
    Oh, these enemies. Don't give money for rockets laughing We can, uh, how we will build super tanks T-664, missiles Niptun and Jupiter, S-800 Slingshot, just give me a penny. good If anything, it's just banter)
  12. Jacket in stock
    Jacket in stock 20 December 2020 16: 05
    +2
    And thank God that they don’t give money.
    A monkey without a grenade - everyone around will live more calmly.
  13. Jacket in stock
    Jacket in stock 20 December 2020 16: 11
    -1
    And by the way, they can make air defense systems, and no worse than the S-300. (Only which modification?)
    The engineers are rushing into battle, waving their sabers, they can't wait to chop their neighbors.
    Yes, and there are competencies, and they know how to make rockets, and locators. And even the element base has its own. And what is not, so not under sanctions, they will buy. Here, everything is in their favor, in comparison with us.
    1. V1er
      V1er 20 December 2020 16: 12
      +2
      We must lure and recruit all their specialists.
      1. Jacket in stock
        Jacket in stock 20 December 2020 16: 22
        +1
        Quote: V1er
        lure and recruit all of their specialists.

        Sure sure.
        How can you lure them if they are asleep and see abrams on Red Square?
  14. Ratmir_Ryazan
    Ratmir_Ryazan 20 December 2020 16: 28
    +1
    People, let's discuss the news in a more serious and more adult way. Enough to talk nonsense about kickbacks and saws and the powerless Ukrainians.

    They have some kind of problem with the serial production of various weapons systems in Ukraine, but which one is unclear. And now let's discuss it.

    One battalion of the Neptune anti-ship missile system can be assembled manually, only something is in no hurry with it in Ukraine.

    In my opinion, Ukraine simply understands that this complex is not cheap, but Russia will not storm Ukraine from the sea, so they save on this anti-ship missile. Moreover, they will soon be supplied with boats with NATO anti-ship missiles.

    But with air defense in Ukraine, everything is bad. There is nothing of our own. That is why they want to abandon all the resources for long-range air defense.

    In my opinion, everything is logical and there is no particular reason for fun.

    Considering that our ships, even the newest ones, seem to be not doing so well with intercepting anti-ship missiles, especially if they are new missiles made using stealth technology and there will be many such missiles.
    1. Dimide
      Dimide 20 December 2020 17: 40
      -1
      There is a reorganization of the Moscow Region itself, as well as "Ukroboronprom" into a holding
  15. Andrei Nikolaevich
    Andrei Nikolaevich 20 December 2020 16: 41
    0
    News from the Ukrainian Reservation always makes you laugh.
  16. Dimide
    Dimide 20 December 2020 17: 34
    -1
    They beg for an advance. In the 21-year budget, money is also allocated for Neptune and Alder-M. The chassis will be Tatra.
    As for the air defense missile system, Korostylev said that 40-50% of the materials for the creation of the air defense system had been accumulated and asked for 2,5 years and $ 30-50 million
    From an article on Defense Express
    1. Brturin
      Brturin 20 December 2020 22: 56
      +1
      Quote: Dimid
      In the 21-year budget, the money is also allocated for Neptuny and Alder-M.

      Only now the subsidies were cut, like a little by 1,5%, but the prices for communal services will grow by how much .... the budget of the Pension Fund is the same, the pensions will be paid only as much as they will be indexed ... The total budget for social spending is 311,3 billion UAH (in 2020 - 313,2 billion), and inflation is officially set at 7% ...
    2. Ovsigovets
      Ovsigovets 22 December 2020 15: 16
      0
      but what about Turkish corvettes ???? but what about amerikanski F-16 ???)))))) Bolivar cannot bear three ... Moscow ..... The budget of the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine is not rubber)))))
  17. Lesorub
    Lesorub 20 December 2020 17: 53
    +2
    In the Ukrainian design bureau "Luch": the Ministry of Defense does not provide funds for the production of the "Neptune"

    As was to be expected - there are no funds of our own - and Western partners can only give credit for the purchase of Western weapons.
    proposes to create a replacement for the S-300 air defense system

    They can only count on modernization - after that they will come up with a new name - and the "new complex" is ready. (remark - if there are funds)) - news has passed - that the option of purchasing Petriots is being considered.
  18. APASUS
    APASUS 20 December 2020 17: 55
    0
    DBK "Neptune" was declared in Ukraine almost a solution to all troubles and quietly forgot to allocate funds. But they will buy Swedish or American ones. Nobody needs this Neptune, it’s impossible to understand. Why they didn’t understand this in KB Luch is not clear
  19. Old26
    Old26 20 December 2020 18: 37
    0
    Quote: boriz
    This is how Square broke loose with Lukashenka and now Neptune was left without a wheelbase, a tractor.
    The Tatra will not pull, and Kraz is not able to produce the tractor independently, without Belarusians.

    And the Minsk chassis was never planned for "Neptune". The machines that are now used in these launchers are KrAZ trucks. And why is this "Tatra" suddenly not able to pull?
  20. svoit
    svoit 20 December 2020 18: 37
    +1
    ... They just do not declare what funds this complex will be built on.
    fashion, when state funding opens, gradually ends, and in Ukraine it will end a little earlier than we have, at least initiative developments are in vogue, at the expense of credit funds. The budget can connect after being adopted
    1. Dimide
      Dimide 20 December 2020 19: 48
      -1
      I believe that this is the best option, not to "rest on the laurels" of previous merits, but to really compete in tenders for the state defense order
  21. Ovsigovets
    Ovsigovets 22 December 2020 15: 06
    0
    what are you talking about .... complexes by themselves are not made .... they still need to be bought)))))) and Muscovites to win it is not enough to "invent a bicycle"))) a bicycle must first start to be produced in large quantities and in series