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Ex-head of the Pentagon announced the possibility of suspending Turkey's NATO membership

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A considerable number of both American and, naturally, Turkish officials spoke out about the introduction of American sanctions against Turkey for the purchase of Russian air defense systems. The former head of the Pentagon, Robert Gates, also joined the speakers.


According to him, America has repeatedly warned Turkey about the consequences, but Turkey ignored these warnings. Robert Gates:

And now the sanctions against Turkey for the S-400 have been introduced. This is a great start.

Ex-head of the Pentagon announced the possibility of suspending Turkey's NATO membership

According to the former US Secretary of Defense, the sanctions should only increase. In his opinion, Turkey should be "punished for actions in Libya, the Eastern Mediterranean and Syria."

Gates:

Turkey's actions run counter to NATO goals, complicating efforts to achieve peace. And NATO is a union of democracies. Today we see that in some countries of the union there is a certain course towards authoritarianism.

The ex-minister said that in addition to Turkey, Hungary and Poland are becoming authoritarian.

Gates:

There is no provision in the NATO Charter to end a country's membership, but we can suspend powers or use other punitive methods for violators, including an offender like Turkey.

In response, the Turkish president reiterated that US actions undermine NATO's unity, adding that "no sanctions can prevent Turkey from improving its own security system."

For reference: R. Gates - US Secretary of Defense in 2006-2011. In 1991-1993 he served as director of the US Central Intelligence Agency.
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  1. The leader of the Redskins
    The leader of the Redskins 20 December 2020 08: 09
    -18%
    But this is already a serious version.
    Here old man Perdogan will need to think about it - without a NATO subscription, Turkey may turn out to be a colossus with feet of clay ...
    1. Lionnvrsk
      Lionnvrsk 20 December 2020 08: 38
      +14
      Quote: Leader of the Redskins
      But this is already a serious version.

      Americans are not as fools as they sometimes seem. Not a single devil (even from a nation of exceptional people) would dare to push such a strong army out of NATO. Well, except that skakuas are capable of this. hi
      1. Tatyana
        Tatyana 20 December 2020 10: 23
        +1
        Gates:
        Turkey's actions run counter to NATO goals, complicating efforts to achieve peace. And NATO is a union of democracies.

        According to Gates, "NATO is a union of democracies" ?! fool Certainly not!
        I immediately remembered Stalin.
        Gates is just a cynical political SHOOLER!
        The United States will never let Turkey go from NATO, but it will always scoff at Turkey until Turkey absolutely obeys Washington.

        According to Stalin:
        Democracy is not the power of the people, but the power of the STRONG for the forcible subordination of the WEAK and turning him into an AMERICAN democratic SLAVE!
        For
      2. petroff
        petroff 20 December 2020 15: 45
        +2
        The leader of the Redskins, apparently, is not aware that the Turkish army is the largest in Eurasia, and was created to confront the USSR. And to lose it, for NATO, is tantamount to NATO's surrender on the world stage.
        Yes, it got out of control, and the attempt to regain control with a coup failed. Turkey is out of control and is now playing its game. For Turkey, no matter its status in the bloc, after the bloc did not come to its aid. Turkey, at a loss, imposed sanctions against Russia, shot down planes, and as a result was forced to send troops into Syria and start hostilities against the Syrian-Russian troops. That is, to unleash a war between NATO and Russia ... And what about the other NATO members !? They simply left Turkey alone with the enemy. From that very moment Turkey was only formally a member of NATO. And it's not a secret for anyone that Turkey doesn't care about NATO, just like NATO doesn't care about Turkey. And that talks about leaving the bloc are just talks that will not change anything. They will only accelerate the collapse of NATO. Germany and France have long been making plans to create a euro army and unite their military-industrial complex. Whether they will offer Turkey membership in the European bloc and the European Union is a separate topic of conversation.
        On the one hand, without the United States and Turkey, militarily, Europe is naked and defenseless. They need the Turkish army to the bone.
        But on the other hand, Turkey can drag their Europe into a war in the east, from which Europe will not really get anything, only mountains of corpses. And even greater Islamization of Europe will not be in vain for her.
      3. onstar9
        onstar9 22 December 2020 05: 35
        0
        Quote: LIONnvrsk
        Americans are not as fools as they sometimes seem. Not a single devil (even from a nation of exceptional people) would dare to push such a strong army out of NATO. Well, except that skakuas are capable of this.

        Yes, Turkey already harms NATO countries more than benefits ... It is high time to withdraw Turkey. She seems to be in the NATO alliance, and immediately wants to do many things contrary to NATO. Like "this is my right to do what I want, as an independent country" .... If you do not obey the majority in the organization you are a member of, then why are you there ... It's just a fraud ...
    2. Profiler
      Profiler 20 December 2020 08: 40
      +6
      Quote: Leader of the Redskins
      But this is already a serious version.

      "Serious" for would-be analysts, or retired generals, with whom demand for words - "Zero".

      Can you imagine what such a "temporary" step on "suspension" entails?
      Think about the financial and political categories, NATO logistics, the forced general reconfiguration of many structures.

      Don't be like American fool How!
      1. Uncle lee
        Uncle lee 20 December 2020 08: 45
        +2
        Turkey should be "punished for its actions in Libya, the Eastern Mediterranean and Syria."
        Probably they will put in a corner, or they will deprive you of sweet for dinner! recourse
        1. Lipchanin
          Lipchanin 20 December 2020 08: 59
          +1
          Quote: Uncle Lee
          Probably they will put in a corner, or they will deprive you of sweet for dinner!

          And don't give pocket money lol
        2. Tusv
          Tusv 20 December 2020 10: 47
          +1
          Quote: Uncle Lee
          Probably they will put in a corner, or they will deprive you of sweet for dinner!

          Sweet for dinner and pocket expenses were definitely deprived. Well, besides other restrictions after Cyprus. A few more twisted nuts were added. The United States froze the grandmother of the military-industrial complex and imposed a ban on loans in the military sphere. Canada has imposed an embargo on components. In Bayraktar, these are the engines of the Canadian daughter in Austria and cameras
    3. Mar.Tirah
      Mar.Tirah 20 December 2020 10: 19
      +4
      Quote: Leader of the Redskins
      But this is already a serious version.
      Here old man Perdogan will need to think about it - without a NATO subscription, Turkey may turn out to be a colossus with feet of clay ...

      But many military analysts say exactly the opposite, Turkey is the most powerful army in the Middle East among the NATO countries. And losing it would mean a disaster for the United States. Do not pay attention to the chatter of ex-Pentagon officials. The main task of Russia is to prevent Turkey from gaining a foothold in the Transcaucasus. as a NATO member. What the United States secretly hopes. The main thing is to squeeze through.
    4. Piramidon
      Piramidon 20 December 2020 13: 03
      +3
      Quote: Leader of the Redskins
      But this is already a serious version.

      Nothing serious. Another idle chatter from another EX-figure.
    5. petroff
      petroff 20 December 2020 15: 24
      +2
      As if NATO without Turkey turned out to be this very ear ...
      Without the largest army in NATO, the Turkish army (after the US), NATO will suddenly become weaker. The funny thing is that
      1 The Turkish army was created by the entire bloc to confront the USSR and Russia in direct proximity to the borders of Russia. This is exactly what NATO was supposed to be fighting the USSR with. Now what !? NATO has decided to lay down its arms !? Surrender !?
      2 And who asked Turkey !? Maybe Turkey is asleep and sees how to get rid of NATO, especially after NATO did not support the Russo-Turkish war. After the United States carried out an unsuccessful coup in Turkey. After Turkey is increasingly convinced that it is possible and necessary to conduct a dialogue with Russia, and that this brings great benefits to Turkey, instead of continuous losses from supporting US policy.
      3 And the Pentagon is not afraid of a precedent !? The same Germany increasingly says that NATO does not need to be paid, that paying dues is a senseless waste of money, that the European Union needs its own army for its own purposes, and not the maintenance of the NATO army for some American purposes. And France has recently voiced the same idea more and more often. Once NATO's largest army pulls out of it, Europe will be naked. And then he will cut off the financing of NATO and will themselves suspend their participation in the bloc. And financing will be directed to the formation of their own military Euroblock.
      Bottom line: the United States will remain in cooperation with Canada, Australia, Britain. The European Union is organizing its Euroblock. Turkey will begin to assemble the Middle East-Transcaucasian Islamic bloc. Azerbaijan will be taken as the first member, further more.
  2. Reviews
    Reviews 20 December 2020 08: 14
    +3
    NATO (...) efforts to achieve peace.

    It's funny. This "ex-", it seems also "ex-sapiens".
  3. evgen1221
    evgen1221 20 December 2020 08: 20
    +2
    Well, according to the former minister, the United States should be punished in the same way, and on the same points.
  4. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 20 December 2020 08: 20
    +2
    Erdogan severely undermined the Turkish economy. Overstrained a little in political adventures?
    And his position is like that of a cyclist ... He stopped and fell. Does Turkey Need NATO? In my opinion - very ... Does Turkey need Erdogan? It looks like not very ...
    1. evgen1221
      evgen1221 20 December 2020 08: 35
      0
      Well, any wars if you do not print money for yourself out of thin air are expensive, plus the coronavirus has brought chaos. Well, at least the Turks have fulfilled their minimum plan, and now they will accumulate strength and gain a foothold.
  5. Asad
    Asad 20 December 2020 08: 23
    +2
    Former warriors in the United States often "see clearly"! And on the subject, it is fraught with amers to drive a rat into a corner, it can snatch! Maybe they will try to change again!
  6. Mykhalych
    Mykhalych 20 December 2020 08: 34
    0
    The Americans, by virtue of their irrepressible ambitions, are losing allies. It plays into the hands of Russia. Let the fingers continue to bend.
    1. Reviews
      Reviews 20 December 2020 08: 43
      +3
      Quote: Mykhalych
      The Americans, by virtue of their irrepressible ambitions, are losing allies. It plays into the hands of Russia.

      This is just the opinion of an out-of-mind pensioner, not the United States.
      1. 2 Level Advisor
        2 Level Advisor 20 December 2020 09: 28
        +2
        I completely agree. Nothing will change from the fact that some retiree uttered something.
  7. Avior
    Avior 20 December 2020 08: 55
    +4
    Grandpa under eighty years old, I want to talk retired.
    There is no mechanism for temporary suspension of participation in NATO
    1. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 20 December 2020 10: 43
      +1
      Legal mechanisms are updated all the time.
      "Case law". A case appears - a mechanism appears.
      1. Avior
        Avior 20 December 2020 10: 53
        +4
        Perhaps you and I have different understanding of the term "case law"
        I'm afraid that there is no precedent for this, and that is why it will be very difficult to deprive it - decisions in NATO are taken by consensus .. Moreover, in general, Turkey supports NATO, and the fact that it conducts some actions outside NATO - it was so and before that, repeatedly with various NATO members.
  8. aszzz888
    aszzz888 20 December 2020 08: 56
    -2
    There is no provision in the NATO Charter to end a country's membership, but we can suspend powers or use other punitive methods for violators, including an offender like Turkey.
    The Turks are buried! Where can they go then, to the CSTO? bully
    1. Tank hard
      Tank hard 20 December 2020 10: 23
      +2
      Quote: aszzz888
      The Turks are buried! Where can they go then, to the CSTO?

      It is quite possible for Kazakhstan to withdraw from the CSTO in the light of the aggravated relations between Russia and Kazakhstan, and you mean the Turks. For me, it’s Russia that needs to leave the CSTO, because I don’t see any sense from this organization. There, the "allies" as a selection, then they threaten to abandon the Russian language (in fact they abandoned a long time ago), then the viral laboratories of the potential enemy are hosted, then they completely do not support the ally in political issues, then they take offense at the truth ... But they are united in the same moments, give Russia money! Russia is to blame for everything! Only Turkey is missing there laughing ... Will be among the "allies" the icing on the cake. wink
  9. cniza
    cniza 20 December 2020 08: 57
    +2
    Ex-head of the Pentagon announced the possibility of suspending Turkey's NATO membership


    They will never do this, they just scare Turkey, but if Turkey ...
  10. DymOk_v_dYmke
    DymOk_v_dYmke 20 December 2020 08: 59
    +3
    The ex-minister said that in addition to Turkey, Hungary and Poland are becoming authoritarian.

    Already tired of these. Good sign.
    1. HAM
      HAM 20 December 2020 09: 56
      0
      I hope that the states will remain friends only with the "Baltic tigers", Germany and France began to behave "incorrectly" laughing .... it is necessary to punish ... good
  11. nobody75
    nobody75 20 December 2020 09: 17
    -2
    Erdagan was not forgiven for the "successful" Karabakh war. The best NATO planners, for a lot of Azerbaijani money, drew such a beautiful plan! And he - this very Erdagan - ruined everything ...
    But my prank was a success ...
    Sincerely
  12. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 20 December 2020 10: 01
    +1
    NATO is an alliance of democracies.
    It's already funny. What democracies? For the head of NATO and three European countries (Britain, Germany, France), this is a sign behind which they hide their crimes, both domestically and in the international arena, while the rest have a clumsy attempt to resemble the master.
    And now the sanctions against Turkey for the S-400 have been introduced. This is a great start.
    Let's see what will be the continuation.
  13. zwlad
    zwlad 20 December 2020 10: 02
    +1
    Great news in the morning!
  14. Ros 56
    Ros 56 20 December 2020 10: 09
    0
    The former do not decide anything, and the language is boneless, so let him go on about spaceships in the vastness of the Bolshoi Theater.
  15. XXXIII
    XXXIII 20 December 2020 10: 22
    +3
    Ex-head of the Pentagon announced the possibility of suspending Turkey's NATO membership
    And who will lose from this ?! They pay less, and they will buy or make weapons anyway. They scared the cat with sour cream. laughing Here Israel would have recaptured all the thresholds at the Pentagon, but not Turkey. And the Balts with the Poles would also tap-dance to Washington, for a small share and a warm place. Turkey is a strong player, it managed to make itself respect itself both in NATO and in front of other players in the region without nuclear weapons. Brave people, strong will!
    1. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 20 December 2020 10: 47
      +3
      Here Israel would have recaptured all the rapids in the Pentagon "////
      ----
      NATO membership is unprofitable for Israel - it restricts freedom of action,
      therefore Israel never asked to enter there.
      1. XXXIII
        XXXIII 20 December 2020 12: 06
        0
        Quote: voyaka uh
        NATO membership is unprofitable for Israel - it restricts freedom of action,
        therefore Israel never asked to enter there.

        But it begs to be friends.)) A friend of NATO in solidarity.)) About freedom, this is not about Israel, there can be freedom inside Israel, but not in the military sphere. And this thread is pulling Israel for many free actions.
  16. APASUS
    APASUS 20 December 2020 10: 57
    +2
    NATO is not just a military bloc that cares about the security of its member countries, but a voluntarily compulsory club of lovers of the American military-industrial complex! It's funny to read when they pose as champions of justice, democracy and other rights
    1. Dkuznecov
      Dkuznecov 20 December 2020 23: 56
      0
      The entire modern history of Turkey is a series of constant deception by "partners".
      Turkey began to suspect something before the Second World War, luckily for itself
      getting off with supplies of dried apricots and tobacco to the Nazis. We would have thrust ourselves into the Caucasus,
      would be beaten again. But I was smart enough.
      Therefore, Turkey does not create any alliances with genetic memory,
      according to the principle "I will break the wood myself - I will be offended by myself."
  17. Revolver
    Revolver 20 December 2020 11: 45
    +3
    Wow! Dreams of Greece come true. They will only have to provoke the Turks to aggression (well, say, by helping Greece to the legitimate and recognized government of Cyprus in restoring its sovereignty and territorial integrity), and please, NATO Article 5 in action.
    1. no one
      no one 20 December 2020 14: 41
      0
      Cyprus is not in nato
      1. Revolver
        Revolver 20 December 2020 20: 29
        0
        Greece to NATO. If the Greeks begin to restore the sovereignty of Nicosia over all of Cyprus (which, in particular, is recognized by both the EU and the United States), the Turks will respond not only in Cyprus, but most likely at sea and in the air, although possibly on the Greek-Turkish border. And aggression against the Greeks, at least in Cyprus, at least anywhere, is quite suitable under Article 5 of NATO. So the expulsion of the Turks from NATO is the best gift the Greeks can get.
        1. no one
          no one 21 December 2020 23: 36
          0
          These are purely your wishlist far from reality
  18. Knell wardenheart
    Knell wardenheart 20 December 2020 13: 19
    0
    Surprised that Poland got it))
    1. Nyrobsky
      Nyrobsky 20 December 2020 21: 47
      0
      Quote: Knell Wardenheart
      Surprised that Poland got it))

      They wanted to build a "Fort Trump" at home, and then bam! - Biden drew. Now the name of the object in the general plan will be changed to "Fort Biden" and the mattresses will be removed from them.
  19. AĞGURD
    AĞGURD 20 December 2020 20: 43
    -2
    Quote: Leader of the Redskins
    But this is already a serious version.
    Here old man Perdogan will need to think about it - without a NATO subscription, Turkey may turn out to be a colossus with feet of clay ...

    Well, that Gavnosariy is not enough that the mind does not shine, and the upbringing is behind, .. it should hit the floor like that not only does Erdogan Perdogan be called so to consider Turkey warm or cold from someone's sanctions .. if it bothered Turkey, she would not everything that has been done to this day ... firstly, it would not have ousted Europe and the Americans from the south by uniting with Russia, would not skimp with Putin, would not help Russia during the sanctions and not buy weapons from it, would not stand in defense of Iran from NATO, would not unite the Turkic countries into the TURAN empire. did not unite and become one of the main members of the OIC, and a lot of things we will probably learn more about what opposed NATO and the European Union.
  20. AĞGURD
    AĞGURD 20 December 2020 20: 49
    -2
    Quote: Tusv
    Quote: Uncle Lee
    Probably they will put in a corner, or they will deprive you of sweet for dinner!

    Sweet for dinner and pocket expenses were definitely deprived. Well, besides other restrictions after Cyprus. A few more twisted nuts were added. The United States froze the grandmother of the military-industrial complex and imposed a ban on loans in the military sphere. Canada has imposed an embargo on components. In Bayraktar, these are the engines of the Canadian daughter in Austria and cameras

    there is a silver lining ... at least thanks to the embargo for the engines, she began to produce it herself, and with Ukraine and Korea, she began to create even better ...
  21. AĞGURD
    AĞGURD 20 December 2020 21: 06
    -1
    Quote: petroff
    Turkey will begin to assemble the Middle East-Transcaucasian Islamic bloc. Azerbaijan will be taken as the first member, further more.

    already created TURAN 2019, it was finally signed between 6 countries Turkey Azerbaijan, Mongolia, Kyrgyzstan, Kazakhstan and Uzbekistan ... this year Ukraine and Pakistan decided to join ... 2021 will probably be removed, contracts will be signed and Officially announced ... this topic back in 1997, Heydar Aliyev began and according to the plan, after the restoration of the Silk Road, they had to unite and before that money was needed, so the contract of the century was needed for this ... so everything is going according to plan ... and the Karabkh war needed the Zangezur region, or to start at least a corridor to unite the borders with Turkey ...
  22. Dkuznecov
    Dkuznecov 20 December 2020 23: 47
    0
    So to speak. There is little that Turkey has gotten into NATO in this.
    Turkey has its own Wishlist, NATO has its own.
    Therefore, love has failed.
  23. ximkim
    ximkim 21 December 2020 15: 16
    0
    According to the former US Secretary of Defense, the sanctions should only increase. In his opinion, Turkey should be "punished for actions in Libya, the Eastern Mediterranean and Syria."

    It seemed like they carried out their actions together in a smart and organized way, but now it turns out that Turkey had actions for which it is necessary to punish ..