Rocket "Prometheus" will accelerate to 11 thousand km / h

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Rocket "Prometheus" will accelerate to 11 thousand km / h

The new Russian S-500 anti-aircraft system can be used against hypersonic weapons... According to the EurAsian Times, the complex's surface-to-air missile will have the ability to fly at a speed nine times the speed of sound.

The publication, relying on the publications of the Russian media and the statements of experts, reports that Russian missiles of the S-500 air defense system, already known as the "F-35 killer", will be capable of shooting down hypersonic missiles. According to Russian President Vladimir Putin, this complex will act as an "antidote" against the hypersonic munitions being developed in the West.



The latest S-500 anti-aircraft missile system is an improved version of the S-400 air defense system already in service with the Russian army, according to the EurAsian Times. New complexes will be deployed in the coming years.

Popularly known as the "F-35 assassin", the S-500 will be equipped with a 40N6 long-range guided missile capable of striking targets up to 155 miles away.

- writes the edition.

The complex will be capable of detecting and attacking up to 10 ballistic missile warheads flying at a speed of more than four miles per second, and the S-500 Prometheus air defense missile system will accelerate to 11 thousand kilometers per hour.

The 30-foot, two-stage solid rocket will have the ability to fly at nine times the speed of sound, intercepting targets moving at Mach 15,6

- stated in the material.

The Russian S-500 complex will be an addition to the S-400 air defense system and a replacement for the A-135 missile defense, according to the EurAsian Times. After the adoption of the complex, American missile systems such as the Patriot and THAAD, as well as fifth-generation stealth fighters, can be considered obsolete.
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    1. +10
      19 December 2020 12: 23
      Rocket "Prometheus" will accelerate to 11 thousand km / h
      belay Yes, the Russians are slow to harness, but they drive fast. request
      1. +14
        19 December 2020 12: 37
        The US withdrew from all treaties with Russia limiting the arms race and declared us enemies. And now they are afraid of us. Fear us.
        Soon your America will have a kirdyk. (C) Brother.
        1. +10
          19 December 2020 13: 28
          Quote: Bearded
          And now they are afraid of us.

          Previously, the news also constantly reported that they were afraid of us. "The Pentagon is in a panic, the State Department is terrified." And then they withdrew from the arms race limitation treaties. You can write this news about how afraid they are at least ten times a day.
          1. +5
            19 December 2020 13: 45
            Quote: military_cat
            Quote: Bearded
            And now they are afraid of us.

            Previously, the news also constantly reported that they were afraid of us. "The Pentagon is in a panic, the State Department is terrified." And then they withdrew from the arms race limitation treaties. You can write this news about how afraid they are at least ten times a day.

            just speaks of the inability to compete within the framework of contracts
            1. +4
              19 December 2020 14: 04
              An interesting interpretation. And in what specifically they cannot compete within the framework of contracts, you can write or is this your assumption?
              1. -1
                19 December 2020 14: 07
                Quote: YOUR
                And in what exactly they cannot compete within the framework of contracts, you can write

                in the speed and maneuvering of delivery vehicles, both in air defense and missile defense - the only way out is to return with all the arsenal to our borders
                1. +10
                  19 December 2020 14: 25
                  They are already at our borders. Everything else is comparable
                  1. +2
                    19 December 2020 14: 53
                    Quote: YOUR
                    They are already at our borders.

                    not so, it took short missiles to attack from the borders
                  2. 0
                    20 December 2020 16: 03
                    Not really. Russian modern developments not only surpass American ones in performance characteristics, but also decently cheaper.
                    1. +2
                      20 December 2020 19: 24
                      Something tells me that the S-500, taking into account the announced characteristics, will not be cheap.
                      Foreigners wishing to purchase the S-500 had to start saving money for it yesterday. hi
                      1. +3
                        21 December 2020 07: 06
                        How much did the Turks and Chinese pay for the S-400, and not yet the full complement? The figure slipped from 4.5 to 5.5 billion dollars. excluding the cost of missiles.
                        One Patriot costs 600 million, with double b / k.
                        The Turks wanted to buy a Patriot, 13 batteries, we have an air defense system classification,
                        Better just reprint on the website of the "Office of Military Cooperation of the US Department of Defense" I found interesting information about the cost of supplying 13 batteries of MIM-104 Patriot air defense systems for Turkey. Maybe someone will be interested.
                        The cost of supplies includes:
                        48 launchers M902
                        13 radar with passive HEADLIGHT AN / MPQ-65
                        72 PAC-3 missiles
                        4 PAC-3 Lot Validation Missiles (? Missile validator?)
                        197 MIM-140E PAC-2 missiles with advanced guidance GEM-T
                        4 MIM-104E GEM-T Lot Validation Missiles (? Missile validator?)
                        5 PATRIOT Digital Missiles (???)
                        100 high-frequency radios THALES 9310C
                        150 THALES 9310C VHF stations
                        4 tactical command posts
                        13 battery command posts
                        As well as related components: containers, batteries, generators, trailers, communication equipment, training programs, spare parts, etc.
                        A total of 13 Patriot batteries will cost Turkey $ 7,8 billion. That is, $ 600 million for one battery
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                        We supplied them with 4 air defense systems and a command post. Those. each air defense system is worth $ 1 billion.
                        The numbers are certainly impressive. In fact, such high-tech equipment simply cannot be cheap.
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                        1. 0
                          21 December 2020 08: 04
                          And this despite the fact that the Patriot is inferior in performance characteristics not only to the S-400, but also to the S-300. Of the 62 missiles fired by Iraq at Israel, the Patriot intercepted less than half. And Iraq had only old Soviet SCUDs, though slightly modernized by the French.
                      2. 0
                        21 December 2020 08: 01
                        The fact is that there are no missile defense systems similar to the S-300, S-400, S-500 in the West. About the price. The export price and the price for their own, the Russian Army, are different things. The export price is naturally higher. In addition, export options come with truncated performance characteristics. And still, Prometheus is cheaper than Aegis.
                        1. +1
                          21 December 2020 09: 26
                          The export price and the price for their own, the Russian Army, are different things. The export price is naturally higher.

                          Naturally. That is why I advised foreign wishing to start stocking up on money. wink
                    2. +1
                      21 December 2020 06: 54
                      Not funny. It's about decently cheaper. But if you have information on this issue and you share it, I will be grateful.
                2. 0
                  20 December 2020 22: 44
                  Quote: poquello
                  in the speed and maneuvering of delivery vehicles, both in air defense and missile defense - the only way out is to return with all the arsenal to our borders

                  "The maximum range of the SM-3 Block IB is 700 km, the speed is 3 km / s. At the same time, the SM-3 Block IIА, which is at the testing stage, has much more impressive characteristics - 2,5 thousand km and 4,5 km / s, respectively".
                  https://tass.ru/mezhdunarodnaya-panorama/4796438
                  1. -2
                    20 December 2020 23: 36
                    Quote: victor50
                    Quote: poquello
                    in the speed and maneuvering of delivery vehicles, both in air defense and missile defense - the only way out is to return with all the arsenal to our borders

                    "The maximum range of the SM-3 Block IB is 700 km, the speed is 3 km / s. At the same time, the SM-3 Block IIА, which is at the testing stage, has much more impressive characteristics - 2,5 thousand km and 4,5 km / s, respectively".
                    https://tass.ru/mezhdunarodnaya-panorama/4796438

                    Do you now see it as an offensive weapon or as a missile defense?
              2. +2
                19 December 2020 14: 45
                An interesting interpretation. And in what specifically they cannot compete within the framework of contracts, you can write or is this your assumption?
                In nuclear power, as an example. In the dashing 90s, they were delighted with a freebie and scattered their nuclear industry. And when they chuhnulis it was already late, and now frantically catching up with us. I'll leave it in brackets about hypersound.
            2. +7
              19 December 2020 14: 06
              Quote: poquello
              just speaks of the inability to compete within the framework of contracts

              1) they are unable to compete within the framework of contracts, therefore they leave
              2) at the same time, they conclude only contracts that are beneficial to them
              3) at the same time, they do not comply with the concluded agreements

              I still lean towards the version that they are not particularly afraid. It, at least, does not force me to invent interpretations that do not fit well with each other every month.
              1. +2
                19 December 2020 14: 19
                I did not understand anything, look what they offer according to SNV, well, with what ours safely send them into the bright distance
                1. -4
                  19 December 2020 14: 36
                  START III, if anything, no one leaves, it expires in 2021. Negotiations are underway on a non-existent contract for a further period.

                  Russia does not want to accept the terms proposed by the United States.
                  The US does not want to accept the terms proposed by Russia.

                  Who is "sending" whom is a subjective evaluative opinion.
                  1. +2
                    19 December 2020 14: 51
                    Quote: military_cat
                    Russia does not want to accept the terms proposed by the United States.
                    The US does not want to accept the terms proposed by Russia.

                    Who is "sending" whom is a subjective evaluative opinion.

                    look inside, in the conditions)
              2. +2
                19 December 2020 19: 10
                Quote: military_cat
                Quote: poquello
                just speaks of the inability to compete within the framework of contracts

                1) they are unable to compete within the framework of contracts, therefore they leave
                2) at the same time, they conclude only contracts that are beneficial to them
                3) at the same time, they do not comply with the concluded agreements

                I still lean towards the version that they are not particularly afraid. It, at least, does not force me to invent interpretations that do not fit well with each other every month.

                And yet they are afraid.
                I'm not talking about Russia, because they know for sure that Russia, without objective reasons, will never initiate a war with the United States, and therefore mattresses vyzhivayutsya like a fly on glass without crossing the permissible line, dancing provocatively along the red line.
                They fear the strengthening of China, which is implementing its nuclear missile program without being bound by any restrictions and treaties. If the PRC is currently an economic threat to the United States, the achievement of military parity with the United States, or even military superiority, will definitely put an end to the "hegemon." For this reason, the United States withdrew from the treaties with Russia, with the aim of signing a new treaty, but in an expanded format, including China. However, the PRC, speaking in abusive language, answered shortly - "go away."
          2. -11
            19 December 2020 15: 23
            I wonder how many Fu-35s were shot down by these "killers"? That's all we have or "answer" or "killer". Isn't it possible to make a simple rocket that will PROTECT? Country, children, women and old people? From the foe. And then we scare the whole world here, and then we wonder why they love us so little. Maybe it's time to change the rhetoric. And then, like that teddy bear from the anecdote, which was going to hang all pi..ley!
            1. +2
              19 December 2020 16: 06
              Quote: Fast_mutant
              Isn't it possible to make a simple rocket that will PROTECT? Country, children, women and old people? From the foe.

              So the rocket is done. And not alone. And others are on the way. Why are you shaking the air?
              1. -9
                19 December 2020 16: 16
                Why are you?
                I spoke about our "unparalleled", "aircraft carrier killers" and other "killers".
                Well, drown at least the aged Enterprise. Then the "killer". And then there is a lot of noise, but there is no business. We cannot make simple diesel engines for frigates. But we "kill" everyone around! And they themselves are "invulnerable"! ))
                1. +10
                  19 December 2020 16: 45
                  I mean that you are now doing verbiage. Our weapons are assessed, including for those who are slow-witted on the other side, so that they understand the approximate result of using this weapon. You're in a storm right now. Either you propose to build missiles that protect old people and women (you might think that they don’t do this anyway), then you propose for some reason to sink a foreign aircraft carrier. Do you understand what you are saying at all?
                  1. -17
                    19 December 2020 19: 21
                    Yes, I just understand that. But you don't even try to understand what others are talking about!
                    I was talking about RHETORIC. I like it better when OUR missile (and technology in general) is called the "protector" of the population, and not "the killer". But, apparently, you do not understand.
                    1. +6
                      19 December 2020 20: 43
                      And you just can't understand that all these "killers" (terms) are a figment of the imagination of journalists. They need to somehow blur out the spine, more aggressive. So redirect your grievances to the EurAsian Times. hi
                      1. 0
                        24 December 2020 17: 26
                        I have heard about the "killers of aircraft carriers" for about 30 years. Then there was no such resource (EurAsian Times)!
                2. 0
                  24 December 2020 17: 08
                  Wow, how many minuses from "Uryaklov"! ))) Kremlebots detected! )))
                  But what if, honestly, there are NORMAL people who believe in our "aircraft carrier killers" and that they can easily do it?
                  With our current Navy, at least to find, and even to damage - is already a great success! And a series of articles, here on the site, about the search / aiming / destruction of AUG confirms my statements.
                  Although no, I'm wrong!
                  Our frigates (as much as 5 units) will lightly blow the same number of aircraft carriers along with their fucking! And we have rockets with hypersound! It is a pity that very few people here on the site think about it. And I generally keep quiet about elementary analysis! Hurray for hypersound! We will kill everyone, we will be alone! Our braces are the most Orthodox!
                  PS At one time, when I was studying at the school, we were taught that the AUG self-defense zone begins about 300 miles! I don’t think it’s less today. And for the guaranteed incapacitation of Enterik, about 5 hits of Granites are required. It was not just then, it is not easy now. Although ... We have so many "aircraft carrier killers" in service! So let's stupidly shout "Hurray"!
              2. +4
                19 December 2020 16: 39
                The crux of the matter is to change the rhetoric, if that. In my opinion, correct. Otherwise, you can soon burst with importance.
            2. 0
              20 December 2020 03: 38
              They shot down as many Su-35s as they did.
              The war, fortunately, is only in the information field.
          3. -1
            20 December 2020 11: 29
            and the Ministry of Defense said "thank you" and began to return to the troops and supply new types of weapons
          4. +1
            20 December 2020 15: 08

            Previously, the news also constantly reported that they were afraid of us. "The Pentagon is in a panic, the State Department is terrified." And then they withdrew from the arms race limitation treaties. You can write this news about how afraid they are at least ten times a day.
            If they were not afraid of us, we would not have existed for a long time. And it's not even a matter of "panic" and "horror". And the fact that they withdrew from the treaty because we are building up our combat capability, we are dangerous for their hygemony, they really tremble for their positions. The earth is quietly slipping away from under our feet. Falling off the pedestal will hurt. Most importantly, I didn't think of anything. Everyone understands this. This is what scares them most of all, the American elite puffs with hatred and indignation, they dream of erasing us into dust, but they cannot, this is what scares them.
            1. -2
              20 December 2020 15: 32
              Quote: stalki
              The earth is quietly slipping away from under our feet. Falling off the pedestal will hurt. Most importantly, I didn't think of anything. Everyone understands this.

              Yes, at first it was clear to everyone about the collapse of the dollar, then the huge national debt, then about the Yellowstone Volcano, then about the secession of Texas, then about BLM. I don’t know what is clear to you this time, but I can tell right away what will happen:
              1. +1
                20 December 2020 19: 20
                Yes, at first it was clear to everyone about the collapse of the dollar, then the huge national debt, then about the Yellowstone Volcano, then about the secession of Texas, then about BLM. I don’t know what is clear to you this time, but I can tell right away what will happen:
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                It's nothing.
                There is nothing eternal in this world, except that human stupidity laughing laughing laughing
                1. -3
                  20 December 2020 21: 14
                  There is nothing eternal, the only question is who will outlive whom.
            2. 0
              21 December 2020 23: 14
              If they were not afraid of us, we would not have existed for a long time. And it's not even about "panic" and "horror". And the fact that they withdrew from the treaty because we are building up our combat capability, we are dangerous for their hygemony, they really tremble for their positions.

              They are NOT AFRAID of us! Because they have an OVERVIEW ADVANTAGE in conventional weapons.
              But they treat us WITH CARE. (These are different things.) Since Russia has strategic nuclear forces.
              The only thing that keeps the US from attacking is the likelihood that America will receive UNACCEPTABLE DAMAGE.
              They try to minimize this probability in different ways. For example, technical, due to the creation of a more advanced missile defense system.
              But the most effective ways for them to protect themselves are economic and political.
              1. 0
                22 December 2020 10: 17
                Pink dreams lol
                1. 0
                  25 December 2020 07: 50
                  What's so incomprehensible?
                  1. 0
                    25 December 2020 09: 40
                    Why, I also think, what is not clear here? request to mold stereotypes in their own image for an alien consciousness is an ancient tradition of the West. If you still do not understand that this is purple for me, then I am informing you about it directly. Why puff up? Not tired? Well have fun wink
                    1. 0
                      26 December 2020 09: 07
                      I, too, are deeply parallel to the adherents of the "great and mighty" sect, who still believe in the myths of the Russian propaganda industry.
                      Blessed is he who believes in opium for the people. lol
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      2. +10
        19 December 2020 12: 46
        The S-500 is a new system, not a development of the S-400. It's just that the S-500 has borrowed some missiles from the S-400. And the S-500 will be able to intercept everything flying up to 7 km / s, which is 25200 km / h.

        it is worth waiting for 2022, when Prometheus will be tested against a missile capable of flying at hypersonic speeds.

        According to military experts, the backlog of promising air defense systems in the United States is about twenty years. All real types of missiles, including the AGM-183A, will be destroyed by the Russian complex with a 100% guarantee.

        The new radar, tested at the test site in 2018, deserves a separate word. Its unique properties consist of an active phased array antenna. But soon the radar will be modernized, and it will be based on an antenna based on radio photonics. The first, where a similar antenna array was used, was the fifth generation Su-57 fighter. Now the size of the system is being adjusted to the size of the entire complex, which is why Prometheus will be delayed before entering the series.

        The defense zone with the adoption of the new complex will increase by about two hundred kilometers in radius, in contrast to the S-400. At the same time, the S-500 will hit targets as much further. In addition, the five hundredth consists of two parts, the first of which monitors the atmosphere, and the second for outer space, and each part has its own rockets. No other air defense system has such a division of "powers".

        Of the ten missiles installed on the S-500, seven were "borrowed" from the S-400. Each missile is tailored for the targets of its class. But three new ones were created specifically for Prometheus. The 40N6M type is the one that strikes at a distance of 600 km. 77N6-N (and 77N6-N1) hit targets flying at a speed of about seven km / sec.

        They say that one of these missiles was "adapted" for activation in another promising missile defense system A-235 Nudol, which protects the skies of Moscow and the Moscow region

        https://zen.yandex.ru/media/bigwar/s500-novyi-kompleks-pvo-v-chem-otlichie-ot-s400-5fca4368702d845a139d553d
        1. -5
          19 December 2020 13: 26
          There, most likely, the collective intelligence has appeared. For interaction with S-400 and AWACS
          1. +1
            19 December 2020 14: 06
            They have AWACS, we have A-50 of which there are only 9 aircraft.
            1. +2
              19 December 2020 15: 46
              Quote: YOUR
              we have A-50 of which there are only 9 aircraft.

              Let's hope to start production of the A-100.
              1. -1
                20 December 2020 03: 39
                Unfortunately, the same as with the Su-57, there are many talks and where the result is not visible.
                1. -3
                  20 December 2020 11: 32
                  everything is banal .. the complexes were shown at the development stage ... and then there are tests and purchase. Given that there is almost no information due to secrecy, this leads to a vacuum and conversations "where is the result" .. an example is the T-14, T-90M, T-15 .. they are already in the troops on tests from six months to a year .. but since you can't take a picture, there is no information at all. For the same T-14 at the moment there are generally heels of photos and two videos, one what Zvezda removed and other that from some indicative of generals at the plant someone posted ... and that's it ... like the same MiG-31K ... they have been on the OBD for 2 years, and there are no more photos and videos at the T-14 ..
              2. 0
                20 December 2020 03: 54
                Will hope...
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                And what else remains for you trolls? laughing laughing laughing laughing
                1. -1
                  20 December 2020 10: 24
                  Quote: Vladimir247
                  And what else remains for you trolls?

                  Come out ...
        2. LMN
          +2
          19 December 2020 13: 42
          The S-500 is a new system, not an evolution of the S-400.

          I also noticed this inaccuracy.
      3. -1
        19 December 2020 13: 49
        Yes, the Russians are slow to harness, but they drive fast.

        This is simply called complete airspace control.
      4. -5
        19 December 2020 14: 24
        Quote: Mavrikiy
        Russians are slow to harness, but drive fast.

        So have we gone already? in my opinion, we have been harnessing for 30 years .. the nag is dead .. but everyone is harnessing it.
        1. -4
          19 December 2020 15: 55
          The nag has died overseas, and we will definitely eat soon out of spite and in spite of everything.
      5. -4
        19 December 2020 20: 25
        Quote: Mavrikiy
        Russians slowly harness,

        and then they don't go anywhere.
        Not "slow" but "long". Eeeh!
    2. +2
      19 December 2020 12: 25
      It's not enough to overclock, you need to detect, count and have time to release a rocket ...
      1. +2
        19 December 2020 13: 00
        Quote: Zaurbek
        It is not enough to overclock, it is necessary to detect, count and have time to release a rocket ...

        This usually takes 30 seconds to 1 minute. Although at such speeds a minute is tens of kilometers. It is possible to calculate and bring the missile to the meeting point with the target, even if there is a much lower speed, all the same, after the detonation, the oncoming speed of the fragments is huge, but in order to move the boundaries of the zone of guaranteed destruction further, it is desirable to have a higher missile speed.
      2. 0
        19 December 2020 13: 11
        Quote: Zaurbek
        It's not enough to overclock, you need to detect, count and have time to release a rocket ...

        Tell me, did someone tell you this, or did you come up with it yourself?
        1. +2
          19 December 2020 13: 22
          I listened to an interview with M. Khodarenko ..... about the missile defense system. and its difference from air defense systems and the main difficulties of hitting ballistic missiles. Those stages that are simpler in air defense due to the speed of the target, in missile defense are critical due to the same speed. And when the combat mode is turned on in the missile defense system, the remote control is blocked, as well as the participation of a person .. and everything goes automatically
      3. 0
        19 December 2020 14: 09
        This is missile defense, detection ranges can reach 1000 km. the warhead flight height is not less than 80 km. Speeds of 11 km / h are also in near space.
        1. -1
          19 December 2020 16: 18
          So the GP rocket is even more difficult to defeat.
          1. 0
            20 December 2020 03: 41
            How difficult is it? The same goal
            1. -1
              20 December 2020 08: 11
              At such speeds, the blow is struck at the point of reinforcement ... and the GP unit can maneuver
              1. 0
                20 December 2020 11: 13
                At lower speeds, is it otherwise hitting the target?
                When hunting for a duck and you do that anticipation
                1. 0
                  20 December 2020 14: 06
                  In another way ... the rocket is still being corrected
                  1. 0
                    21 December 2020 06: 52
                    It is always funny for me to communicate with a person who absolutely does not understand the subject, but gives out everything with such a look - forget what you were taught, listen to what I have to say.
                    Well, who can correct the flight of a rocket when it is thousands of kilometers from the launch site?
      4. 0
        19 December 2020 14: 50
        It's not enough to overclock, you need to detect, count and have time to release a rocket ...

        Zaur-well, with all due respect to you, this is TOPVAR -and just carry ACHIN-well, how to say, NOT MUCH.
        1. -1
          19 December 2020 16: 16
          I mean, 11m is not all ....... to defeat the GP.
    3. +4
      19 December 2020 12: 30
      As Russian President Vladimir Putin said, this complex will act as an "antidote" against the developed in the West hypersonic ammunition
      Eh, that would be like this with COVID ...
      They thought, and we already have an antidote! feel
    4. +4
      19 December 2020 12: 30
      Missile defense missiles back in the 60s. of the last century, they did not shoot down targets by crawling; here the question is in target maneuvering.
    5. +5
      19 December 2020 12: 59
      Until now, "Prometheus" has not carried out live fire at the GZKR due to the lack of targets. Today, not only are there no such targets, but also a polygon of the required geometric dimensions that would ensure the safe launch of hypersonic target missiles and subsequent combat firing at them. Since 1988, even the range version of the A-135 missile defense system near Moscow (the Amur-P multichannel firing complex) has not fired at such targets and with such speeds of entry into the affected area. Due to the absence of targets, Amur-P still launches anti-missile (PR) missiles at the so-called lead point.
      In general, they wrote nonsense
    6. -1
      19 December 2020 12: 59
      The only question is when will our army be equipped with such systems as the S-500. They are very necessary for the protection of our Motherland, because The United States and China, our main enemies, are also developing hypersonic missiles.
      1. +3
        19 December 2020 13: 13
        since USA and China, our main enemies
        at the moment China is our main enemy in your head
        1. +3
          19 December 2020 13: 29
          But not a friend either. States the enemy is understandable. But China can become one very quickly if they have imperial ambitions, think for yourself where they will expand ..
          1. +4
            19 December 2020 13: 33
            can become one very quickly if they have imperial ambitions
            so you can talk about any country, but why should they suddenly appear, in the history of China they often appeared? as they say, do not invent problems for yourself from scratch, there are enough real ones
            1. +3
              19 December 2020 13: 41
              Well, not about any country, if, for example, Kazakhstan appears, I will not worry, but China has a huge military potential, a huge population and strength! And our sparsely populated Siberia is nearby ...
          2. +3
            19 December 2020 13: 43
            Uh-huh, with a total outflow of the population from the northern territories of China, I doubt it. And the imperial ambitions of China from Comrade Den
        2. 0
          22 December 2020 10: 44
          But, if your head does not understand, then this, however, is your problem.
    7. +3
      19 December 2020 13: 01
      the competition of "shell and armor" continues ... the main thing is to be able to look a little further than the enemy ... as long as we succeed ...
    8. +4
      19 December 2020 13: 01
      "The Russian S-500 complex will be an addition to the S-400 air defense system and a replacement for the A-135 anti-missile defense system, according to the EurAsian Times" ///
      ----
      Here they are right. The S-500 is a mobile version of the stationary defense system of Moscow:
      radar Don-2 and Nudol missiles.
      S-500 - anti-satellite and anti-ICBM weapons.
      It has nothing to do with the subsonic F-35.
      1. +5
        19 December 2020 13: 23
        There are, as it were, two modifications of the S-500. One is responsible for working as an air defense (including the F-35), the other is responsible for working as an anti-missile defense (for ICBMs). Accordingly, different radars and different missiles.
      2. +5
        19 December 2020 13: 45
        A-135 will be replaced by Nudolya, and new missiles that were tested at Sary-Shagan
        1. +1
          19 December 2020 13: 48
          By the way, the Americans announced the next test of our missile of the Nudol missile defense system on December 15th. In the north, tests were taking place.
        2. +2
          19 December 2020 13: 53
          Lie. On December 16, the launch took place.
          According to the Telegram-community "Operative Line", the launch of the Russian anti-satellite missile "Nudol" from Plesetsk took place on December 16, 2020, while the launch was performed routinely.


          “In Russia from Plesetsk today again in test mode, without practically hitting something in near space, an anti-satellite missile product of the Nudol type was launched. Comrade Americans are alarmed, the press service of the Russian Defense Ministry, as is almost always the case with Nudol, is silent, just as the Pentagon is silent about at least three cases of testing something missile this year off the western coast of the United States, " message.

          https://avia.pro/news/rossiyskie-voennye-zapustili-protivosputnikovuyu-raketu-nudol-na-rasstoyanie-2-tys-kilometrov

          The Americans confirm the launch.
          https://www.spacecom.mil/News/Article-Display/Article/2448334/russia-tests-direct-ascent-anti-satellite-missile/
      3. +2
        20 December 2020 00: 51
        Quote: voyaka uh
        The S-500 is a mobile version of the stationary defense system of Moscow:
        radar Don-2 and Nudol missiles.

        Hardly, Nudol is much larger in size. Judging by the layout, the S-500 missile will be approximately half the size, the offhand range will be 600-700 km. Good thing anyway ...

        https://defence-blog.com/news/army/russia-plans-to-complete-s-500-missile-system-development-in-2021.html
    9. -2
      19 December 2020 13: 04
      intercepting targets moving at Mach 15,6

      immediately below the article was
      The production of hypersonic missiles under the ARRW (Air-Launched Rapid Response Weapon) AGM-183 program in the interests of the US Air Force is planned to be deployed in 2021 or 2022.
      only they declare the speed of AGM-183 at Mach 20
      I wonder if the S-500 will be able to shoot down this missile on a collision course?
      1. bar
        +9
        19 December 2020 13: 17
        only they declare the speed of AGM-183 at Mach 20

        So far they are "only declaring." What will happen in real life and when it will be is unknown. Especially considering that its development began only two years ago. America is certainly a rich country, but no one has yet refuted the parable of 9 pregnant women.
    10. -1
      19 December 2020 13: 07
      Popularly known as the "F-35 killer"

      In what people? Killed a lot?

      The 30-foot, two-stage solid rocket will have the ability to fly at nine times the speed of sound, intercepting targets moving at Mach 15,6

      The interceptor must not have a speed exceeding the speed of the intercepted object. Missiles are not intercepted in pursuit. Maneuverability, and most importantly the ability to detect an intercepted object. That's what's important.
      1. +5
        19 December 2020 16: 56
        Popularly known as the "F-35 killer"

        In what people? Killed a lot?

        In the American people, if such of course exists (rather, the American community of settlers from all over the world). These American newspapers are vying to write about what they say "the F-35 killer", it means that in the American community the S-500 is known from their words as the F-35 killer. Nobody pulled them by the tongue. And about how many S-500 killed the F-35. You can transfer a couple of F-35s as flying targets for testing the S-500, then we'll see what's wrong. In principle, F-35s break down and fall so often that they don't really need to be killed themselves, the main thing is not to interfere with this. wink laughing
        1. -8
          19 December 2020 18: 21
          Quote: OrangeBigg
          In the American people, if there is such a thing (rather, the American community of settlers from all over the world). These American newspapers are vying to write about what they say "the F-35 killer", then in the American community the S-500 is known from their words as the F-35 killer. Nobody pulled them by the tongue.

          National Interest is not an American publication.

          Quote: OrangeBigg
          And about how many S-500 killed the F-35. You can transfer a couple of F-35s as flying targets for testing the S-500, then we'll see what's what.

          We've already seen how the S-300 knocks down drones. Going to the ram. We saw how the "curvature of the earth's surface" prevents the S-400 from resisting the destruction of the airbase. Now let's wait for the premiere of the C-50.

          Quote: OrangeBigg
          In principle, F-35s break down and fall so often that they do not need to be killed too much, the main thing is not to interfere with them.

          While on their account there is a successful combat experience, but the S-300, S-400 and S-500 have nothing to boast of.
          1. +6
            19 December 2020 18: 54
            National Interest is not an American publication.

            Aha. Let's believe you a word. Unless, of course, an American magazine is considered an American edition.
            The National Interest (translated from English. - "national interest or state interest") - American conservative magazine about international politics. The printed version comes out every two months. Published since 1985 by the Center for National Interests. Many of The National Interest's materials are militaristic.

            https://ru.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_National_Interest

            We've already seen how the S-300 knocks down drones. Going to the ram.

            And Azerbaijan is pleased with the S-300, which shot down Armenian ballistic missiles during the war. Look for it on the Internet. Maybe all the same, miracles should not be expected from the 30-year-old Armenian S-300s of still Soviet construction? Azerbaijan has new S-300 modifications. And the result is appropriate. You can see how Saudi Arabia has once again "coped" with the strikes of the Kyrgyz Republic of Yemen on its territory with the help of the legendary Patriot air defense systems. They will definitely not let you down. Stability is a sign of a class. Another point is that the level of this class is well, let's say so.
            We saw how the "curvature of the earth's surface" prevents the S-400 from resisting the destruction of the airbase.

            According to the former Israeli Ambassador to Russia in an interview with Iton TV
            The "curvature of the earth's surface" of the S-400 rises in direct proportion to the Russian-Israeli agreements at the highest level. Hence the result with the Iranian airbases, which, by the way, is not always an ally for us, frankly speaking. Well, you don't dig deep. You don't need to take all this into account.
            Now let's wait for the premiere of the C-50.

            You can hardly wait for the premieres of the S-50, but quite the S-500.
            1. -10
              19 December 2020 19: 16
              Quote: OrangeBigg
              Aha. Let's believe you a word. Unless, of course, an American magazine is considered an American edition.
              The National Interest (translated from English. - "national interest or state interest") - American conservative magazine about international politics. The printed version comes out every two months. Published since 1985 by the Center for National Interests. Many of The National Interest's materials are militaristic.

              https://ru.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_National_Interest

              Well then, the BBC Russian Service is a Russian edition. laughing

              Quote: OrangeBigg
              And Azerbaijan is pleased with the S-300, which shot down Armenian ballistic missiles during the war. Look for it on the Internet. Maybe all the same, miracles should not be expected from the 30-year-old Armenian S-300s of still Soviet construction? Azerbaijan has new S-300 modifications. And the result is appropriate. You can see how Saudi Arabia has once again "coped" with the strikes of the Kyrgyz Republic of Yemen on its territory with the help of the legendary Patriot air defense systems. They will definitely not let you down. Stability is a sign of a class. Another point is that the level of this class is well, let's say so.

              Nevertheless, the S-300 did not shoot down anyone. Its yes.
              Azerbaijan also destroyed:
              3 Strela-10 9K35
              15 Wasp 9K33
              3 2K12 Kub:
              4 5P85S S-300
              1 5P85D S-300
              1 Tor-M2KM

              Quote: OrangeBigg
              According to the former Israeli Ambassador to Russia in an interview with Iton TV
              The "curvature of the earth's surface" of the S-400 rises in direct proportion to the Russian-Israeli agreements at the highest level. Hence the result with the Iranian airbases, which, by the way, is not always an ally for us, frankly speaking. Well, you don't dig deep. You don't need to take all this into account.

              What has Israel to do with it? It was the Americans who showered your allies with axes under your nose.

              Quote: OrangeBigg
              You can hardly wait for the premieres of the S-50, but quite the S-500.

              Let's wait for her.
              1. +6
                19 December 2020 19: 30
                Nevertheless, the S-300 did not shoot down anyone. Its yes.


                Of course, where would he go.
                In Azerbaijan, Russian S-300s were praised for their effectiveness.

                Several hours ago, the media reported that the Russian S-300 "Favorit" complexes, which were in service with Azerbaijan, successfully shot down an unknown target over the territory of Karabakh. Speech, according to some information, is about one of the Su-25 attack aircraft, the losses of which, in addition to those destroyed in the first days of the war, Yerevan categorically denies. Baku praised the Russian S-300 air defense systems, noting that these air defense systems helped Azerbaijan to return the territory of Karabakh under its control.

                At the moment, Azerbaijan does not disclose under what circumstances the S-300 complexes were used, however, experts draw attention to the fact that either the Su-25 attack aircraft of the Armenian Air Force or a tactical missile, which were actively fired at Azerbaijan, could have become a victim of the Russian air defense system. from the territory of Armenia.

                https://avia.pro/news/azerbaydzhanskiy-zrk-s-300-sbil-neizvestnuyu-cel-nad-karabahom

                What has Israel to do with it? It was the Americans who showered your allies with axes under your nose.

                Especially in April 2018, they bombarded with axes, and bombed an entire abandoned scientific center. 80-85 percent of the Kyrgyz Republic was shot down.
                1. -7
                  19 December 2020 19: 34
                  Quote: OrangeBigg
                  Several hours ago, the media reported that the Russian S-300 "Favorit" complexes, which were in service with Azerbaijan, successfully shot down an unknown target over the territory of Karabakh.

                  "Unknown" is like Zhvanetsky "did not know if there was a goal"?

                  Quote: OrangeBigg
                  Especially in April 2018, they bombarded with axes, and bombed an entire abandoned scientific center. 80-85 percent of the Kyrgyz Republic was shot down.

                  We hear about how the Arabs always "shoot down" 80-85 percent of the attacking means every day. Of course, they never present any evidence. I'm talking about an airbase where the "curvature of the earth's surface" prevented from reflecting the impact.
                  1. +5
                    19 December 2020 19: 47
                    "Unknown" is like Zhvanetsky "did not know if there was a goal"?

                    Does Zelensky's humor no longer suit you? Let's take Zhvanetsky as an example.

                    We hear about how the Arabs always "shoot down" 80-85 percent of the attacking means every day. Of course, they never present any evidence.


                    Such material evidence will suit? Video and photos of the downed CD on the link below.
                    Briefing of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation about the trilateral aggression against Syria on April 14 with a display of the surviving missiles brought to Moscow.

                    At the 4th minute - out of 105 declared missiles, 22 hits were recorded: Barza - 13 hits out of 76 declared, shot down 46 cruise missiles according to objective control around Damascus.

                    some of the missiles did not reach targets, most likely due to technical problems, 2 of them were delivered to Moscow.

                    Him Shin Shar - 7 hits out of 22 announced and 2 out of 7 somewhere nearby.

                    A total of 20 missiles were shot down in Homs.

                    https://diana-mihailova.livejournal.com/1941223.html
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              2. +2
                20 December 2020 20: 44
                "Azerbaijan also destroyed:
                3 Strela-10 9K35
                15 Wasp 9K33
                3 2K12 Kub:
                4 5P85S S-300
                1 5P85D S-300
                1 Tor-M2KM ",
                5P85 is not a complex, it is a launcher and its defeat does not equal the destruction of the complex. If it is not clear what a PU is, I explain, this is a towing semi-trailer with a TPK installed on it or the same TPK mounted on the basis of a tractor.
                After reading about the "curvature of the surface" I realized that all your knowledge is gleaned from the same specialists as you are from the Internet. Search the Internet for the book "Shooting SAM", the author of Neupokoev and read it, I think you will be interested. But remember: education adds knowledge, but, unfortunately, it does not add intelligence. Henceforth, I recommend writing about what you probably know, and not some bullshit.
                I have the honor!
              3. 0
                20 December 2020 20: 50
                Armenia lost four of the six Russian-made Tor-M2KM anti-aircraft missile systems (the most modern models) deployed in Karabakh in the first 15 days of the war, and half of the entire NKR air defense was destroyed in 15 minutes on September 27.

                This was stated by the former secretary of the Security Council of the unrecognized Nagorno-Karabakh Republic Samvel Babayan.
                According to him, after the destruction of the "Thors", four more complexes were sent to the combat zone.

                Of the six Buk air defense systems, only one was in working order. In the first minutes of the war, units of the Azerbaijani Armed Forces destroyed 10 Osa air defense systems and one S-300 air defense system.

                Quote:
                "There was no weapon. The air defense was at zero. There were 6 TORs, of which 4 were destroyed in the first 15 days. Then they sent 4 more, which can provide a maximum of 45 km. Of the 6 BUK-5 units were inoperative, a repair team was waiting from Moscow to to be used by the 10th. "
    11. bar
      +1
      19 December 2020 13: 15
      Checkmate if it's true good
      1. +3
        19 December 2020 13: 31
        The main thing is to have time to do a lot of them BEFORE it starts .. !!
    12. +2
      19 December 2020 13: 34
      In light of the fact that in the military sphere they cannot press us down, for objective reasons, they will press differently !!! In principle, they have such opportunities, but whether they will be able to realize them to a significant extent is still a question.
      On the topic, it's good that we can threaten the aggressor with a fist, but we will not be able to stop there ... we will have to strengthen the military potential more and more, in many areas.
    13. +2
      19 December 2020 13: 37
      The new Russian anti-aircraft system S-500 can be used against hypersonic weapons

      Our "answer to Chamberlain" good
      The production of hypersonic missiles under the ARRW (Air-Launched Rapid Response Weapon) AGM-183 program in the interests of the US Air Force is planned to be deployed in 2021 or 2022.
    14. +6
      19 December 2020 14: 14
      We must wait for the performance characteristics from our official source. It is clear that everyone will not tell, but what should be announced. And the mattress stories range from "everything is gone, the boss" and we have a khan to Russia has rusty, useless weapons.
    15. +1
      19 December 2020 14: 16
      This is not bluetooth for you ..
    16. +7
      19 December 2020 15: 12
      Quote: Svarog
      Quote: Mavrikiy
      Russians are slow to harness, but drive fast.

      So have we gone already? in my opinion, we have been harnessing for 30 years .. the nag is dead .. but everyone is harnessing it.

      You? In a sense, perhaps)))
      Well, in a different sense with the Russians, you seem to be out of the way.
    17. amr
      +3
      19 December 2020 15: 25
      Quote: Guru
      Nuclear power as an example. In the dashing 90s, they were delighted with a freebie and scattered their nuclear industry. And when we chuhnulis it was already late, and now frantically catching up with us. I'll leave it in brackets about hypersound.


      Well, these are 2 exceptions, most likely, rather than a trend, but in general, look at the structure of our Central Bank's work - and no Rosatoms with hypersonic missiles are needed, we are already being milked and, if necessary, they will arrange hunger and war and everything else!
    18. +5
      19 December 2020 17: 36
      Well, there are plenty of blunders in the text. Literally two adjacent paragraphs have different data.

      Quote: OrangeBigg
      And the S-500 will be able to intercept everything flying up to 7 km / s, which is 25200 km / h.

      So far, this is just talk. TTX are not known. Even for 40N6 there is no officially announced data.

      Quote: YOUR
      This is missile defense, detection ranges can reach 1000 km. the warhead flight height is not less than 80 km. Speeds of 11 km / h are also in near space.

      In fact, when a couple of years ago everyone rushed to write about the S-500, they voiced the detection range of 600 km. The flight height of the warhead will depend on the distance from the finish point. The speed of 11 thousand km / h is 3,1 km / s. Quite achievable in the atmosphere

      Quote: voyaka uh
      "The Russian S-500 complex will be an addition to the S-400 air defense system and a replacement for the A-135 anti-missile defense system, according to the EurAsian Times" ///
      ----
      Here they are right. The S-500 is a mobile version of the stationary defense system of Moscow:
      radar Don-2 and Nudol missiles.
      S-500 - anti-satellite and anti-ICBM weapons.
      It has nothing to do with the subsonic F-35.

      The S-500 will not replace the A-135M. If it is, it will be a mobile version of a tactical missile defense system. Rockets from the S-400, possibly supplemented with anti-satellite missiles.
      Nudol will probably be a mobile version of the missile defense system, an addition to the Moscow missile defense system, which is now being upgraded to the A-235 level. What missiles will be part of the Nudoli and the A-235 is also not yet known. But the S-500 is unlikely to be a counter-ICBM weapon. The speed of the interceptor is too low to intercept the BB ICBM. Even the American SM-3 block 2A is not capable of intercepting ICBMs (only in a very limited case when it is in the plane of firing of an ICBM). And it has a speed of 4,5 to 5 km / s against the speed of 3,1 km / s for the S-500
      1. -5
        19 December 2020 20: 22
        Quote: Old26
        But the S-500 is unlikely to be an anti-ICBM weapon. The speed of the interceptor is too low to intercept the BB ICBM. Even the American SM-3 block 2A is not capable of intercepting ICBMs.

        As you know, today there is an ARROW 3 missile defense system that copes with this task.
    19. +4
      19 December 2020 20: 54
      Quote: Vitaly Gusin
      Quote: Old26
      But the S-500 is unlikely to be an anti-ICBM weapon. The speed of the interceptor is too low to intercept the BB ICBM. Even the American SM-3 block 2A is not capable of intercepting ICBMs.

      As you know, today there is an ARROW 3 missile defense system that copes with this task.

      Your ARROW-3 system is still a purely missile defense system. The S-500 is positioned as an air defense system with elements of missile defense and PSO. But this is not the most important thing either. Your system is capable of intercepting missiles with a range of 3000 km and a speed of 4,5 km / s. And these are MEDIUM-RANGE ROCKETS. Strategic missile defense has always been distinguished by significantly higher interceptor speeds. And here it is only 3,1 km / s. Even SM-3 block 2A is not a strategic missile defense system, although it has speeds of about 4,5-5 km / s
      1. -4
        19 December 2020 21: 44
        Quote: Old26
        Your ARROW-3 system is still a purely missile defense system.

        There is also ARROW 2 and DAVID'S SPRINGS which are air defense.
        Quote: Old26
        Your system is capable of intercepting missiles with a range of 3000 km and a speed of 4,5 km / s. And this MEDIUM-RANGE ROCKETS.

        You are right, as you know it is these missiles that threaten the security of Israel and there is no need to do what does not threaten.
    20. +1
      19 December 2020 22: 24
      If we talk about the latest hypersonic anti-aircraft missiles from the S-500 "ammunition", then these are 40N6M, 77N6-N, 77N6-N1 ... Such missiles can be used to combat US hypersonic weapons, like ARRW ... the question is .. .: HOW more effective? But such a "path" of the 77Н6-Н, 77Н6-Н1 missiles is also planned ... their use as "analogues" of the same ARRW! Let's see!
    21. +4
      20 December 2020 01: 02
      The Russian S-500 complex will be an addition to the S-400 air defense system and a replacement for the A-135 missile defense, according to the EurAsian Times.

      The A-135 has long been upgraded to the A-235 Nudol, and the Prometey air defense missile system will form the second ring of the missile defense center and will become the basis for the formation of regional missile defense / air defense systems.
    22. -8
      20 December 2020 10: 01
      It remains only to find out how many F35 have already been shot down by these "F35 killers".

      And then the "killers F" delivered to Syria did not show themselves in any way. Quite the opposite.

      Articles from little-known foreign media outlets, "Popularly known as" hating-whimpering, will not lead to any good.
    23. 0
      20 December 2020 12: 03
      Prometheus is more aimed at strategic bombers, command posts, reconnaissance, target designation and jamming. Plus near space with warheads. Single goals, each one of the highest priority.
    24. +1
      20 December 2020 13: 51
      I do not believe it is complete nonsense
    25. 0
      20 December 2020 15: 16
      "S-500 air defense missiles, already known as the" F-35 killer "and" Caliber missiles, etc., already known as "aircraft carrier killers" and others that have no analogues in the world. Quite bold statements for the "yellow press" and "patriotic man in the street." Horror.
    26. +1
      20 December 2020 18: 00
      Popularly known as the "F-35 killer"

      This is apparently in the American people. The F-35 can be shot down by other air defense systems. As well as any aircraft of any manufacturer
    27. 0
      20 December 2020 23: 33
      Quote: Bearded

      Soon your America will have a kirdyk. (C) Brother.

      So far, "kirdyk" to "Brother" himself. No need to run ahead of the locomotive. No.
    28. 0
      21 December 2020 09: 58
      Who fantasized that "Russian missiles of the S-500 air defense system, already known as the" F-35 killer ", will be capable of shooting down hypersonic missiles" ??? Why would it suddenly? Speed ​​9M (2.5 km / sec) is that enough? Enemies have long had more breakthrough technologies, don't our military customers know this? Missile speed: Block IA / B 2,7 km / s, Block IIA 4,5-5,0 km / s. On February 21, 2008, the SM-3 rocket was launched from the cruiser Lake Erie in the Pacific Ocean and three minutes after the launch hit the USA-247 emergency reconnaissance satellite located at an altitude of 193 kilometers, moving at a speed of 7 580 m / s (27 300 km / h, 25M). Another AgM-183A missile has a maximum speed of 15345 miles per hour (24 km / h, 695M). Can S-23 missiles shoot down such targets?
    29. +3
      21 December 2020 17: 10
      Quote: Boris Epstein
      And this despite the fact that the Patriot is inferior in performance characteristics not only to the S-400, but also to the S-300. Of the 62 missiles fired by Iraq at Israel, the Patriot intercepted less than half. And Iraq had only old Soviet SCUDs, though slightly modernized by the French.

      How much will we trump that the first modification, created 30 years ago, could not intercept the Scuds. After that, several new modifications have already appeared, and we are trumping the very first option, which, by the way, was not adapted to intercept operational-tactical missiles.

      Quote: Zaurbek
      In another way ... the rocket is still being corrected

      Uh-huh. The Germans also planned to place a suicide pilot in the head section for "correction". Ballistic, if they can be adjusted, then only in the last kilometers of flight. And in a very narrow range.

      Quote: Vladimir Vlasov
      Can S-500 missiles shoot down such targets?

      They can. But only on oncoming, in extreme cases on oncoming intersecting courses. The speeds do not have to exceed the target speeds.
    30. 0
      21 December 2020 22: 42
      Likewise, we are told about a bright future, instilling hope for a better life.
      Speaking of the "best in the world" air defense systems and the "best in the world" hyper-missiles, we are given a sense of false security, since hyper-missiles are very expensive and their mass production in Russia is impossible.
      No money. But you hold on.
    31. 0
      23 December 2020 07: 38
      So the maximum overload in the final section is more interesting. In catching up, 11 kkm / h is still not enough, but in the forehead it is more interesting who maneuvers better.
    32. 0
      24 December 2020 17: 21
      Quote: stalki
      we are dangerous for their hygemony, they really tremble for their positions.

      I'm really, I wonder, are you serious? Are they afraid of OUR hegemony? Yes, all the kids of our leaders are THERE! Half of our management have THEIR citizenship and property from THEM! And who will destroy THEIR hegemony after that. It's like building a house in a forest and then burning this forest to hell with the house! Cool! Bees against honey!

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