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The US Army will have jeeps-missile carriers

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The US Army will have jeeps-missile carriers

Missile-carrying jeeps may appear in the American army. According to The War Zone, citing Lockheed Martin, a new launcher has been developed for the AGM-179A Joint Air-to-Ground Missile (JAGM) multi-purpose missile, which will allow the missile to be placed on ground vehicles.


The American company Lockheed Martin has presented a new four-shot launcher designed to be placed not only on US Navy ships, but also capable of accommodating small boats or ground vehicles.

The JAGM Quad Launcher (JQL) is reminiscent of the existing Lockheed Martin vertical launchers used on American surface ships. fleet... Designed with an open architecture that allows it to be integrated into the required media. The company guarantees the compatibility of the launcher with existing combat control systems.

The launcher itself will be produced in two types: the first is designed for below deck installation, the second is intended for installation on deck or ground vehicles.


The company does not provide exact technical details of the installation, but advertising materials show the placement of two launchers in the rear of a 4x4 Joint Light Tactical Vehicle (JLTV) truck.

Thus, according to Lockheed Martin, the new launcher makes it possible to place AGM-179A missiles on JLTV (Joint Light Tactical Vehicle - joint light tactical vehicle) vehicles, thereby significantly increasing the firepower of infantry units against armored vehicles.

JLTV jeeps with PU JAGM Quad Launcher are especially attractive to the US Army and the US Marine Corps, the company emphasizes.
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  1. knn54
    knn54 19 December 2020 11: 41
    +1
    The next stage is an unmanned missile carrier truck.
    1. Snail N9
      Snail N9 19 December 2020 11: 51
      +2
      There is such an anime "Heavenly Wanderers" https://yummyanime.club/catalog/item/nebesnye-skitalcy. The plot there is rather unusual:
      “The war from terror and damnation has turned into a business and a craft, the levers of control have shifted to transnational corporations. Two of them - Rostock and Lautern - specialize in an endless war game played by the most advanced branch of the military - aviation. The battlefield is all peace, only combatants can be killed, only military targets can be bombed, and civilians watch air battles in real time on TV and discuss them with taste like sports matches. "

      And yes, instead of people, clones are used, which are grown on the stream. laughing
      1. Kuroneko
        Kuroneko 19 December 2020 16: 22
        +3
        Quote: Snail N9
        There is an anime "Skywalkers"

        The anime series "Planetes" will be much closer to our real future.

        A series dedicated to space wipers, space debris cleaners.
  2. bar
    bar 19 December 2020 11: 41
    0
    Are the striped ones studying the experience of their military operations and switching to jihad mobiles? This is the success I shield laughing
    We are waiting for modifications with recoilless guns and DShK in the back.
    1. OgnennyiKotik
      OgnennyiKotik 19 December 2020 12: 23
      +3
      Quote: bar
      Striped men study the experience of their military operations

      Done right. They study the experience of their own and others' military operations. Mobility, stealth, situational awareness, accuracy become more important than armor, quantity, caliber size.
      1 UAV + 1 JLTV with 8 AGM-179А is guaranteed destruction of 8 tanks at a distance of 10-16 kilometers.
      1. Vladimir_2U
        Vladimir_2U 19 December 2020 12: 26
        +1
        Quote: OgnennyiKotik
        this is guaranteed destruction of 8 tanks

        Directly guaranteed? Jammers-air defense-KAZ will not stop these miracle missiles at all?
        1. donavi49
          donavi49 19 December 2020 12: 49
          +4
          How many tanks with KAZ in the army? - 0. Ok.
          How many of these KAZs cover the upper zone? These rockets dive into the roof.
          How much air defense is given to tanks in the first line? - again, only the calculations of MANPADS and what kind of Osa-Strela? Well, the Armenians showed the effectiveness of such air defense. Despite the fact that they were beaten with much more primitive and old means. Even Spike will be older and simpler than JAGM.
          A feature of the JAGM missile is a fully integrated homing head (GOS), which includes channels: active radar, thermal imaging and semi-active laser homing. The thermal imaging channel is equipped with an array of uncooled IR detectors located in the focal plane of the optical system and providing target imaging. The active radar channel of the seeker operates in the millimeter range.

          The integration of the seeker channels provides the missile homing system with high accuracy and noise immunity, incl. in conditions of intense radio countermeasures, the use of camouflage means and adverse weather conditions.

          The capture of the target of the seeker of the rocket can be carried out after launch, or before launch. In the first case, in the initial phase of the flight, the rocket moves under the control of an inertial control system with the possibility of transmitting target designation commands via a data transmission line, supplemented by a satellite navigation system. The ability to lock the target after launch allows you to implement the 'fire-and-forget' mode at long ranges, incl. for mobile targets, which dramatically increases the survivability of the carrier.


          Give Buki / Torah / Armor to tank companies and you will be left not only without tanks, but also without air defense.
          1. lucul
            lucul 19 December 2020 13: 03
            -1
            How much air defense is given to tanks in the first line? - again, only the calculations of MANPADS and what kind of Osa-Strela? Well, the Armenians showed the effectiveness of such air defense. Despite the fact that they were beaten with much more primitive and old means

            Another one judges the war at the company level)))
            1. poquello
              poquello 19 December 2020 13: 08
              +3
              Quote: lucul
              How much air defense is given to tanks in the first line? - again, only the calculations of MANPADS and what kind of Osa-Strela? Well, the Armenians showed the effectiveness of such air defense. Despite the fact that they were beaten with much more primitive and old means

              Another one judges the war at the company level)))

              the main thing now is that you can refer to the Armenians, who, to put it mildly, profited and training, and intelligence, and tactics
            2. donavi49
              donavi49 19 December 2020 13: 42
              +2
              Even a tank army consists of tank companies wink .

              The bottom line is that such a jeep can fire at mechanized formations.
              1. lucul
                lucul 19 December 2020 13: 46
                -9
                The bottom line is that such a jeep can fire at mechanized formations.

                The bottom line is that everyone knows how to compose music - but not everyone succeeds)))
                1. donavi49
                  donavi49 19 December 2020 13: 50
                  +3
                  The problem is, the war is changing. And many here still measure with a steel fist to the La Manche in a week.

                  Light platforms with 3rd generation ATGM systems, various missiles, patrolling kamikaze drones and more. Doing serious harm to mechanized connections. They shackle movement, transfers and reveal them. Again, the NKR - they tried to stop the breakthrough, but the transfer of 2-3 units of equipment and the platoon led to the fact that a significant part of the troops was torn apart on the way, some disappeared altogether. And instead of a counterattack, several liquid offensives came out, from open positions, under a hail of fire from MLRS and arty.

                  Despite the various bells, or rather kicks at the door.
                  1. lucul
                    lucul 19 December 2020 13: 57
                    -5
                    The problem is, the war is changing. And many here still measure with a steel fist to the La Manche in a week.

                    The problem is that someone is planning military operations at the army level, and someone at the company level. If we draw analogies, then the difference in thinking between the general and the centurion. The centurion will think only from his own experience, in order to think at the level of a general - you need to command a unit at the level of the army - there are simply no other options, otherwise you will get a paper general.
                    Russians think one more category higher - at the front level, hence the scale of planning.
                    1. SovAr238A
                      SovAr238A 20 December 2020 19: 20
                      0
                      Quote: lucul

                      Russians think one more category higher - at the front level, hence the scale of planning.

                      Those. Do you directly realize that in any limited conflict, if the scale of the forces of the "front" level is not used, the Russians will always lose?
                      After all, they never plan how to defend themselves at the company level.
                      Only the front and no less - so chtoli?

                      A penny worth of such defense ...
          2. Vladimir_2U
            Vladimir_2U 19 December 2020 13: 05
            +1
            Quote: donavi49
            How many tanks with KAZ in the army?

            How many such missile carriers are there in the United States?
            Quote: donavi49
            again, only the calculations of MANPADS and what kind of Osa-Strela? Well, the Armenians showed the effectiveness of such air defense
            Well, you still give the Arabs as an example, and the composition of the army air defense of Armenia is far from the most modern.
          3. poquello
            poquello 19 December 2020 13: 10
            -6
            Quote: donavi49
            Give Buki / Torah / Armor to tank companies and you will be left not only without tanks, but also without air defense.

            ett somewhere in an American magazine write, the speed of this ATGM 1200 kmch, shells for a snack
            1. donavi49
              donavi49 19 December 2020 13: 44
              +7
              Well, judging by the cartoons Telavivfilm, TripoliSinema, BakuStudio, IdlibBabakhTV - then the shells were falling apart even from 150 km / h of loitering kamikazes.

              But the climate there is not the same, the earth is round, monkey operators. And another 100500 excuses.
              1. poquello
                poquello 19 December 2020 13: 51
                -5
                Quote: donavi49
                Well, judging by the cartoons Telavivfilm, TripoliSinema, BakuStudio, IdlibBabakhTV - then the shells were falling apart even from 150 km / h of loitering kamikazes.

                But the climate there is not the same, the earth is round, monkey operators. And another 100500 excuses.

                in in, decide on the climate, if there is no way with performance characteristics)))))))))))))))))
              2. Boris Chernikov
                Boris Chernikov 20 December 2020 17: 24
                -2
                well, no one shows unsuccessful duplicates, as well as the number of losses among uavs
          4. Boris Chernikov
            Boris Chernikov 20 December 2020 17: 22
            -3
            and what will prevent the integration of President-S on the tank? not to mention the fact that KAZ will soon go to the troops
        2. Intruder
          Intruder 21 December 2020 08: 59
          0
          on tanks, air defense systems, which ones, not a machine-gun mount, but a full-fledged air defense combat module, and how many such tanks are available, for example !? Plus with a specialized MSA, with the ability to combat drones, or any other small targets with scanty EPR!?;)))
      2. lucul
        lucul 19 December 2020 13: 01
        -11%
        Done right. They study the experience of their own and others' military operations. Mobility, stealth, situational awareness, accuracy become more important than armor, quantity, caliber size.
        1 UAV + 1 JLTV with 8 AGM-179А is guaranteed destruction of 8 tanks at a distance of 10-16 kilometers.

        What do you mean, a volley of Caliber and all the plants producing UAVs in your country have been destroyed - what will you do next?
        1. donavi49
          donavi49 19 December 2020 13: 41
          +3
          Well, a volley of Calibers across California will be answered with volleys of Tridents. And on them Yars and Topols. laughing
          1. lucul
            lucul 19 December 2020 13: 45
            -2
            Well, a volley of Calibers across California will be answered with volleys of Tridents. And on them Yars and Topols.

            Apart from the Russia / America conflict, can't we have others?
            1. donavi49
              donavi49 19 December 2020 13: 45
              +3
              Well, you advised to destroy the production of AGM-179. They are only in the USA. Rocket is the second year in the series. It is not even exported yet.
              1. lucul
                lucul 19 December 2020 13: 47
                -6
                Well, you advised to destroy the production of AGM-179. They are only in the USA. Rocket is the second year in the series. It is not even exported yet.

                Well, this jeep still needs to be delivered to Europe, and on the way it may not reach.
              2. poquello
                poquello 19 December 2020 13: 53
                0
                Quote: donavi49
                Well, you advised to destroy the production of AGM-179. They are only in the USA. Rocket is the second year in the series. It is not even exported yet.

                well, these petrels are definitely
        2. Vitaly Pogrebnyak
          Vitaly Pogrebnyak 19 December 2020 14: 01
          0
          Hmm, what are the intercontinental calibers?
          1. lucul
            lucul 19 December 2020 14: 09
            -6
            Hmm, what are the intercontinental calibers?

            Modified - with a range of 4 km)))
            1. Vitaly Pogrebnyak
              Vitaly Pogrebnyak 19 December 2020 14: 10
              +1
              Well, it’s still longer to America.
              1. lucul
                lucul 19 December 2020 14: 12
                -8
                Well, it’s still longer to America.

                There is also a container version))) they sail around the world on dry cargo ships)))
                1. Vitaly Pogrebnyak
                  Vitaly Pogrebnyak 19 December 2020 14: 14
                  +1
                  Ahahah, funny.
                  1. lucul
                    lucul 19 December 2020 14: 19
                    -6
                    Ahahah, funny.

                    Don't you know? )))
            2. SovAr238A
              SovAr238A 20 December 2020 19: 24
              +3
              Quote: lucul
              Hmm, what are the intercontinental calibers?

              Modified - with a range of 4 km)))

              They do not fly more than 2500 km ...
              Stop inventing ..
              1. lucul
                lucul 20 December 2020 19: 47
                -2
                They do not fly more than 2500 km ...
                Stop inventing ..

                You, as always, will learn everything only by the fact of your appearance in the troops.
                1. SovAr238A
                  SovAr238A 20 December 2020 19: 49
                  0
                  Quote: lucul
                  They do not fly more than 2500 km ...
                  Stop inventing ..

                  You, as always, will learn everything only by the fact of your appearance in the troops.

                  To do this, you just need to know the weight and dimensions, the type of engine, the type of fuel.
                  Produced by the industry.

                  And not wet fantasies and words about "such devices" ...
                  1. lucul
                    lucul 20 December 2020 19: 56
                    -4
                    To do this, you just need to know the weight and dimensions, the type of engine, the type of fuel.
                    Produced by the industry.

                    Cognitive dissonance again?
                    You all initially said that there are no Gauges, all these are cartoons. Until they flew on the heads of the instructors. The 4 km modification has not yet been delivered to the troops, but is being tested.
                    Here's TASS
                    https://tass-ru.turbopages.org/tass.ru/s/armiya-i-opk/9310557
                    1. SovAr238A
                      SovAr238A 20 December 2020 20: 07
                      +1
                      Quote: lucul
                      To do this, you just need to know the weight and dimensions, the type of engine, the type of fuel.
                      Produced by the industry.

                      Cognitive dissonance again?
                      You all initially said that there are no Gauges, all these are cartoons. Until they flew on the heads of the instructors. The 4 km modification has not yet been delivered to the troops, but is being tested.
                      Here's TASS
                      https://tass-ru.turbopages.org/tass.ru/s/armiya-i-opk/9310557


                      The caliber is a repetition of the American Tomahawk.
                      Originally from the mid 70s.
                      There is no miracle in this and never will be.
                      And Caliber has never been a wunderwaffe.
                      He's just a repetition!
                      When ours stole the engine, they completely repeated it.
                      It was only then that cruise missiles of this type appeared.

                      And Caliber is just essentially "removing a nuclear warhead" from a Grenade. At first the project was Alpha, then Buryuza, then Indian Club ...
                      It was on Indian money that this very Caliber was founded.

                      Learn materiel and history.
                      1. lucul
                        lucul 20 December 2020 20: 09
                        -5
                        Learn materiel and history.

                        Is this the one where someone dug the Black Sea?
                        Tomahawk flies 4 km? And Caliber flies - that's the whole story for you, who stole what from whom.
        3. SovAr238A
          SovAr238A 20 December 2020 19: 24
          +2
          Quote: lucul
          Done right. They study the experience of their own and others' military operations. Mobility, stealth, situational awareness, accuracy become more important than armor, quantity, caliber size.
          1 UAV + 1 JLTV with 8 AGM-179А is guaranteed destruction of 8 tanks at a distance of 10-16 kilometers.

          What do you mean, a volley of Caliber and all the plants producing UAVs in your country have been destroyed - what will you do next?


          those. Do you think that subsonic missiles of which we have as many as 16 in the Black Sea theater of operations will be able to overcome the Turkish air defense and destroy all factories?
          And the Turks with their fleet and aviation will sit and be silent?
          How long will the Black Sea fleet hold out there in this case? 20 minutes, no more ...
          The entire military potential of Crimea will simply be swept away in a few hours ...

          For the superiority of the Turks is overwhelming in this theater of operations.
          1. lucul
            lucul 20 December 2020 19: 43
            -4
            those. Do you think that subsonic missiles of which we have as many as 16 in the Black Sea theater of operations will be able to overcome the Turkish air defense and destroy all factories?
            And the Turks with their fleet and aviation will sit and be silent?
            How long will the Black Sea fleet hold out there in this case? 20 minutes, no more ...
            The entire military potential of Crimea will simply be swept away in a few hours ...

            For the superiority of the Turks is overwhelming in this theater of operations.

            Maybe against Israel it is.
            Well, Russia will not even notice the resistance))))
            1. SovAr238A
              SovAr238A 20 December 2020 19: 48
              +2
              Quote: lucul
              those. Do you think that subsonic missiles of which we have as many as 16 in the Black Sea theater of operations will be able to overcome the Turkish air defense and destroy all factories?
              And the Turks with their fleet and aviation will sit and be silent?
              How long will the Black Sea fleet hold out there in this case? 20 minutes, no more ...
              The entire military potential of Crimea will simply be swept away in a few hours ...

              For the superiority of the Turks is overwhelming in this theater of operations.

              Maybe against Israel it is.
              Well, Russia will not even notice the resistance))))


              Yes Yes...
              Will not notice.
              As I did not notice the killed ambassador and the downed C-24 ...
              Compare the quantitative composition of the fleet in this theater of operations ...
              Compare the quantitative composition of aviation in this theater of operations ...
              Please note that in the event of a clash between Turkey and Russia, the entire NATO structure (Bulgaria, Romania) will give them all intelligence and provide assistance in their air bases and ports.
              Like Ukraine ...
              1. lucul
                lucul 20 December 2020 19: 50
                -2
                Compare the quantitative composition of the fleet in this theater of operations ...
                Compare the quantitative composition of aviation in this theater of operations ...
                Please note that in the event of a clash between Turkey and Russia, the entire NATO structure (Bulgaria, Romania) will give them all intelligence and provide assistance in their air bases and ports.
                Like Ukraine ...

                Pffff .... how much time will Turkey be able to gather troops?
                And the Russian Federation, 100 army will be airlifted in a week)))
                1. SovAr238A
                  SovAr238A 20 December 2020 20: 00
                  +2
                  Quote: lucul
                  Compare the quantitative composition of the fleet in this theater of operations ...
                  Compare the quantitative composition of aviation in this theater of operations ...
                  Please note that in the event of a clash between Turkey and Russia, the entire NATO structure (Bulgaria, Romania) will give them all intelligence and provide assistance in their air bases and ports.
                  Like Ukraine ...

                  Pffff .... how much time will Turkey be able to gather troops?
                  And the Russian Federation, 100 army will be airlifted in a week)))


                  The fleet needs 2 days.
                  Aviation needs 12 hours.

                  100 armies by air - there will be nowhere to land ...
                  Everything will be destroyed
                  1. lucul
                    lucul 20 December 2020 20: 03
                    -6
                    100 armies by air - there will be nowhere to land ...
                    Everything will be destroyed

                    So it will be, the funnels will land and that's it.
      3. Quadro
        Quadro 19 December 2020 16: 50
        -4
        Quote: OgnennyiKotik
        Quote: bar
        Striped men study the experience of their military operations

        Done right. They study the experience of their own and others' military operations. Mobility, stealth, situational awareness, accuracy become more important than armor, quantity, caliber size.
        1 UAV + 1 JLTV with 8 AGM-179А is guaranteed destruction of 8 tanks at a distance of 10-16 kilometers.

        Another sofa commander. At one time, the entire BC BMP-1 was designed for 2.5 tanks, and the BC grenade launcher with RPG-7 for 0.3 tanks, but you are singing to us about "one missile, one tank." Why aren't you head of MO yet?
        1. Vadim237
          Vadim237 19 December 2020 17: 42
          +1
          That you are some kind of junk in the form of ammunition BMP 1 and RPG 7 compare with a guided missile operating on the principle of fired and forgotten with a triple homing head and working on the tank in the roof.
      4. Eroma
        Eroma 20 December 2020 12: 29
        0
        I cannot know how modern tactical groups operate in a modern big war. But during the Second World War, the offensive was carried out by tanks behind an artillery barrage, it is unlikely that something light and mobile, but not buried in the ground, can survive after artillery barrage! If the front is broken and the columns are moving forward, then since the Afghan war they are blocked from above by attack helicopters and in the near future attack drones, if the enemy is able to attack from 10 km, then they will cover the columns from above in this radius. And what these drones do with those who did not hide, we in NK perfectly saw.
        Light and mobile units with highly intelligent weapons, this is cool in low-intensity local conflicts, where an ambush is the main type of combat. And what will the light forces do against the combined-arms army, which attacks according to all the rules of combined-arms combat at once to the entire depth of the defense, including from the air?
        Although the idea itself is probably not bad for the bourgeoisie, I wonder how far ground reconnaissance radars can detect such a jeep?
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        2. OgnennyiKotik
          OgnennyiKotik 20 December 2020 12: 45
          0
          I took a target height of 2 meters, the radar at a height of 10 m, then the radio visibility range is 18 km, i.e. this is the theoretical maximum, without terrain folds, weather conditions, camouflage. Almost a maximum of 5-6 km, if you're lucky.
          1. Eroma
            Eroma 20 December 2020 12: 50
            0
            It is clear, only from above can be detected, if the adversary is not a fool and does not climb to the front line what
            1. OgnennyiKotik
              OgnennyiKotik 20 December 2020 12: 52
              0
              It is no longer possible to fight without a UAV. They should be at the level of the motorized rifle squad, the edge of the platoon.
              1. Eroma
                Eroma 20 December 2020 12: 59
                0
                The squad is probably very small, if a company is marching or a battalion, then such a swarm of UAVs simply unmasks the unit lol
                I think at the battalion level it is enough, you just need the ability to get an image from the UAV by everyone in the battalion, such as via Wi-Fi on a battalion scale and plus the transfer of data above, for art or aviation, other units that interact with the battalion should also be able to see through the eyes of the UAV. So probably hi
                1. OgnennyiKotik
                  OgnennyiKotik 20 December 2020 14: 34
                  0
                  About the squad I meant mini drones, like these.


                  For a platoon already more and kamikaze.


                  The company and the battalion are already full-fledged UAVs.
                2. OgnennyiKotik
                  OgnennyiKotik 20 December 2020 14: 49
                  +2
                  With such a saturation of air means, it is simply impossible to concentrate large forces in one place. Detection and destruction is guaranteed. Now operations like Desert Storm, especially the Second World War, are simply impossible.
                  Only in small mobile groups. Karabakh, Idlib, Libya, LDNR showed this. As soon as the Armenians concentrated their forces they were exterminated, the same with Azerbaijan, Ukrov, Syrians, Turks and so on.
                  Small groups and DRGs, under cover of aviation (UAV) and artillery. The only way. And this does not depend on the size of the army. At least 300 tanks at least 3000 they will be knocked out in the first days of the war, both if the forces are comparable, on the one side if it adheres to the old tactics.
      5. Ugochaves
        Ugochaves 21 December 2020 06: 22
        -1
        For some reason, you always carry out an example of an attack on an enemy (that is, us) who stupidly sits on the priest evenly and he has no breakdown (no, from the word at all), and opposition (similarly). Is it such an oxymoron?
  3. Avior
    Avior 19 December 2020 11: 46
    +3
    And he will not roll over?
    1. The leader of the Redskins
      The leader of the Redskins 19 December 2020 12: 09
      0
      I think shooting is possible only with a stop and precise stabilization. But such systems have a future.
    2. lucul
      lucul 19 December 2020 13: 05
      -10%
      And he will not roll over?

      Is this the first thing that came to your mind? )))
      And to me - how he will pass the scaffolds / overpasses))))
  4. evgen1221
    evgen1221 19 December 2020 11: 54
    +6
    Well, the idea is clear - the rapid deployment of missiles on any and cheap carrier. Mobility, stealth and rapid deployment in any ravine. Mosquito transport.
  5. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 19 December 2020 11: 55
    0
    Something like Spike?
    1. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 19 December 2020 12: 56
      +2
      No. This Joint Air-to-Ground Missile (JAGM) targets
      laser illumination or radar.
      How to aim her at a target from a jeep Oshkosh - kill, I don't understand.
      Did they overhaul the missile seeker?
      ----
      With Spike, everything is simple: he is guided by the operator along the unwinding
      very thin optical cable.
      When the IR video of the seeker has captured the target, the missile can be "released" (forget).
      She will find the target herself. You can go yourself until you hit.
      1. OgnennyiKotik
        OgnennyiKotik 19 December 2020 13: 01
        +3
        Quote: voyaka uh
        hovers over
        laser illumination or radar.

        There is also a thermal imaging channel.
        Quote: voyaka uh
        How to aim it at a target from a jeep Oshkosh

        External target designation from UAVs or ground troops.
      2. rocket757
        rocket757 19 December 2020 13: 24
        +3
        Striking means are different and many, BUT, everything, as always, rests on the reconnaissance systems, control of the combat space to great depth and width !!!
        Those. destroy these systems at the enemy and many strike weapons become less effective ...
        What is left?
        It is a lot smarter to do these percussion means .... otherwise, I pressed the start button and let it fly there, I don't know where, looking for something I don't know what.
        1. Vadim237
          Vadim237 19 December 2020 17: 45
          +1
          There are no problems with reconnaissance systems now - the United States even has reconnaissance micro helicopters that no radar station will see, and the human eye is the same.
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 19 December 2020 17: 56
            0
            There are no problems when the reconnaissance assets are intact ... and they are vulnerable to various influences, like everything else ... it's not worth talking about any reconnaissance trifle until the level is not right.
          2. poquello
            poquello 20 December 2020 00: 19
            0
            Quote: Vadim237
            There are no problems with reconnaissance systems now - the United States even has reconnaissance micro helicopters that no radar station will see, and the human eye is the same.

            fly far?
  6. Hermit21
    Hermit21 19 December 2020 11: 56
    -1
    Their answer to "Hermes"
  7. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 19 December 2020 12: 01
    -5
    And what is there in our 40-foot containers with Caliber stalled!
  8. Runway
    Runway 19 December 2020 12: 04
    -2
    PU URki based on a truck (mrap) - quite a budget solution if you finish the missile on the control center from the "front end" or RG.
    A truck is still much cheaper than a flight.
  9. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 19 December 2020 12: 14
    -1
    Even I thought, the Khrushchev case in the USA is winning, the rocket is a magic plug for all cases! Maybe they will step on our rake!
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 19 December 2020 17: 55
      +1
      They have, in addition to missiles, artillery cartridges and shells, like everything else, is developing at a rapid pace. And such a missile system - within a radius of 28 kilometers, can destroy anything, from infantry in trenches and dugouts to air defense systems and aircraft at airfields - and it will be very difficult to shoot down this supersonic missile.
      1. Boris Chernikov
        Boris Chernikov 20 December 2020 17: 29
        -2
        he can only destroy in the case of a control center, without a control center he can only hit what he sees ... with artillery they are not doing well either, she will no longer pull out any active firefights-1 shell per minute-5 minutes after the start of work .. this is so-so pace
        1. SovAr238A
          SovAr238A 20 December 2020 19: 52
          +2
          Quote: Boris Chernikov
          he can only destroy in the case of a control center, without a control center he can only hit what he sees ... with artillery they are not doing well either, she will no longer pull out any active firefights-1 shell per minute-5 minutes after the start of work .. this is so-so pace


          Where do you get such grass from?
          The paladin has a rate of fire of 6 rounds per minute.
          1. Boris Chernikov
            Boris Chernikov 20 December 2020 19: 56
            -4
            for the first few minutes of the battle, and then, according to the instructions, it is not recommended to shoot more than 1 shot per minute, otherwise the cellulose walls of the expelling charges may ignite when the gun is loaded ... but what happens when a couple of kilos of gunpowder "puffs" into the sau ... it's better not to even imagine .. even though I doubt they will pull 6 shots per minute with their "shooting technique" ...
            1. SovAr238A
              SovAr238A 20 December 2020 20: 22
              +1
              Quote: Boris Chernikov
              for the first few minutes of the battle, and then, according to the instructions, it is not recommended to shoot more than 1 shot per minute, otherwise the cellulose walls of the expelling charges may ignite when the gun is loaded ... but what happens when a couple of kilos of gunpowder "puffs" into the sau ... it's better not to even imagine .. even though I doubt they will pull 6 shots per minute with their "shooting technique" ...


              Have you watched the modern method of artillery at least once?
              Well, there is the time spent at the firing position ...
              Do not write what has long been gone, 30 years ago ...
              No need to take data from carbon monoxide
              1. Boris Chernikov
                Boris Chernikov 20 December 2020 22: 14
                -4
                Well, the only difference is that in 1 minute our ACS will make from 10 to 16 volleys ...
  10. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 19 December 2020 12: 52
    +2
    JLTV jeeps with PU JAGM Quad Launcher are especially attractive to the US Army and the Marine Corps
    Well, if they are attractive, then of course there would be demand. They will adapt an initially air-to-ground anti-tank missile to a jeep and ... Don't the Americans have an ATGM on wheels? Back in Soviet times, we installed the Malyutka ATGM on the BRDM. It's just not clear what the "know-how" is and what kind of exhaust?
    1. Boris Chernikov
      Boris Chernikov 20 December 2020 19: 56
      -3
      how what ... mani-mani-mani ..
  11. silberwolf88
    silberwolf88 19 December 2020 12: 58
    0
    so soon all terrorists / jihadists will have)) ... this is just a gift ... for them
  12. Evil 55
    Evil 55 19 December 2020 12: 59
    -1
    Rather, rather hand over NATO to the "postgraduate country" for testing in the Donbass ... And it's time for us to get acquainted with it too ..))
  13. TatarinSSSR
    TatarinSSSR 19 December 2020 13: 51
    0
    What is this rocket - AGM-179A, its range and purpose? In open sources, something is not thick with a description.
    1. OgnennyiKotik
      OgnennyiKotik 19 December 2020 14: 09
      -3
      Replacing the helfair. JAGM has a seeker: active radar, thermal imaging and semi-active laser homing. Naturally 3 generations i.e. fired and forgot. From helicopters they launched 16 km, from planes 32 km. Against tanks, armored vehicles, ships, fortifications, etc., etc.
      1. Vadim237
        Vadim237 19 December 2020 17: 58
        0
        Yes, this is not the third generation, but rather the 5th.
        1. OgnennyiKotik
          OgnennyiKotik 19 December 2020 18: 02
          -1
          Nuuu classify it in the 3rd generation, and so yes, it clearly surpasses everything that is now.
      2. TatarinSSSR
        TatarinSSSR 19 December 2020 19: 58
        0
        OK thanks. But all the same, she needs a tip-off initially, otherwise the view from the jeep is small and the line of sight is not great
        1. OgnennyiKotik
          OgnennyiKotik 19 December 2020 20: 05
          0
          Of course. The UAV will do an excellent job with this task. They have them like mud.
    2. OgnennyiKotik
      OgnennyiKotik 19 December 2020 14: 29
      -1
      More precisely, a replacement for BGM-71 TOW, AGM-114 Hellfire and AGM-65 Maverick
  14. Jacket in stock
    Jacket in stock 19 December 2020 15: 00
    +1
    the speed of this ATGM 1200 km / h, shells for a snack

    And what, the Armor is now attached to the tank units?
    1. poquello
      poquello 20 December 2020 00: 27
      0
      Quote: Jacket in stock
      the speed of this ATGM 1200 km / h, shells for a snack

      And what, the Armor is now attached to the tank units?

      are you reading from your phone?
      Quote: donavi49
      Give Buki / Torah / Armor to tank companies and you will be left not only without tanks, but also without air defense.
  15. Sergey Kulikov_3
    Sergey Kulikov_3 19 December 2020 15: 40
    -2
    The idea with a jeep is certainly good, especially the gunner's cabin with a machine gun. Somehow it even smacks of Ukrainian "dung".
  16. iouris
    iouris 19 December 2020 16: 04
    -5
    Let's answer them with the creation of all-weather jeeps-missile carriers!
    1. Cottodraton
      Cottodraton 20 December 2020 07: 14
      0
      Yes, already there. They want to put the same Hermes on tigers
  17. Old26
    Old26 19 December 2020 18: 21
    +3
    Quote: lucul
    Ahahah, funny.

    Don't you know? )))

    And you turn up the reports of the company, which presented all this at the exhibition (container system of weapons) for 10 years, and find at least one unit of such containers that were produced in a series and delivered to someone. These containers have already hesitated. A stillborn weapon system that starts to trump when arguments run out
  18. garri-lin
    garri-lin 19 December 2020 19: 30
    0
    Platoon-level OTRK? The idea is good. The implementation is a little strange. Although our Hermes on Kamaz also looks strange.
  19. Dzafdet
    Dzafdet 19 December 2020 21: 09
    0
    we urgently need to replace the Tochka -U. On a car chassis. With at least two missiles. Better four. Range 120 km.
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 20 December 2020 15: 55
      0
      It is possible to make six on the basis of the Urals an analogue of the Israeli LORA.
    2. Boris Chernikov
      Boris Chernikov 20 December 2020 17: 31
      -3
      and why do you need one more Point? Now for these purposes Hermes is being tested .. for 20 km for the eyes is enough
  20. da Vinci
    da Vinci 19 December 2020 21: 25
    0
    New weapons are expected from the Syrian democratic opposition.
  21. Gregory Charnota
    Gregory Charnota 19 December 2020 22: 26
    0
    the barmaley taught them) jihad mobilis to do
  22. Zomanus
    Zomanus 20 December 2020 11: 59
    0
    It looks like our TOP. there are also vertical launchers.
    Only here it will be possible to charge the UAV for the campaign.
  23. tarakan
    tarakan 20 December 2020 17: 12
    0
    Such a "wunderfall" should be installed in the fortifications and the border guards will not interfere
  24. tarakan
    tarakan 20 December 2020 17: 25
    0
    Quote: Zomanus
    It looks like our TOP. there are also vertical launchers.
    Only here it will be possible to charge the UAV for the campaign.

    Damn, shove a whirlwind into the TOP, such a babakha will turn out
  25. Clone
    Clone 20 December 2020 20: 02
    0
    Nuuu ... it's time to adapt the appropriate entourage to the big ones ... it doesn't work with hyper, so at least here they will be ahead of the Russians. repeat
  26. Klingon
    Klingon 21 December 2020 02: 37
    0
    oh this seems to be the same "super-dropper rocket" about which Trump spoke wassat