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Erdogan: Turkey has been marking time on the EU's doorstep for many years, but the doors are still closed

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The Turkish President and the German Chancellor held a remote meeting. The dialogue between Recep Erdogan and Angela Merkel attracts increased attention in connection with the statements that were made during this dialogue, primarily by the Turkish president.


Erdogan said that Turkey "has been marking time on the EU's doorstep for many years, but the doors are still closed for Turkey."

Turkish President:

It's time for us to take real steps towards each other, if we all want that, of course.

According to Recep Tayyip Erdogan, Ankara wants to turn the page in relations with the European Union, "but does the European Union itself want this?" Erdogan thanked Merkel for "Germany's constructive contribution to cooperation with Turkey", but at the same time very transparently hinted that Germany actually does not contribute in any way to the real advancement of Turkish integration into the EU.

Erdogan:

We are open for cooperation. Is the European Union open for this? We have been keeping the window of cooperation with Europe open for a long time. We offer compromise options for Greece. But so far Europe is not ready to accept such proposals coming from us.

Earlier, the Turkish leader said that Turkey has been trying to integrate with the European Union for half a century, but no progress has been made, since the European Union itself is hindering integration in the first place. Now, in addition to the barriers, the European Union has supported certain types of sanctions against Turkey. For several years Germany has been supporting the anti-Turkish embargo on the supply of arms and components. Due to the German embargo in Turkey, for example, serial production is broken tanks Altay
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  1. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 19 December 2020 07: 16
    +8
    Leave Cyprus, recognize the economic zone of Greece on the beaches in Turkey and you will be happy !!! And also parent 1 and parent 2 !!! lol
    1. Ilya-spb
      Ilya-spb 19 December 2020 07: 51
      +6
      Does Turkey need to join the European Union?

      There is a large Turkish diaspora in Germany and other EU countries.
      And - I agree that European values ​​are incompatible with Turkish ones.
      1. tralflot1832
        tralflot1832 19 December 2020 08: 26
        +7
        I also don’t understand Erdogan, having plans for PaxTurkey to climb into the EU. England’s experience didn’t teach? It’s expensive to enter, but it’s even more expensive to get out! They won’t be allowed to steer freely in the EU! forgive. "And the eagle will not understand" For the Caucasus under me. "
      2. times
        times 19 December 2020 08: 31
        +14
        Quote: Ilya-spb
        Does Turkey need to join the European Union?

        Europe treats Turkey in much the same way as the G7 treats Russia. When Turkey is useful - then a partner, the rest of the time - not mature enough
      3. iouris
        iouris 19 December 2020 16: 24
        -2
        Quote: Ilya-spb
        European values ​​are incompatible with Turkish ones.

        "Inspiration is not for sale (but the manuscript can be sold)" (AS Pushkin).
        The main human values ​​are safety, bread, water, warmth, family, offspring ... (for man descended from a monkey, and therefore the "Maslow pyramid" obtained from the observation of primates is universal for both Turks and "Ouropeans") ...
    2. Mavrikiy
      Mavrikiy 19 December 2020 08: 01
      +4
      Erdogan: Turkey has been marking time on the EU's doorstep for many years, but the doors are still closed
      The second option, if Europe is so needed, is to plant the door with your boots, through Greece. But why. fool
      You can also run a couple of migrants tolerastam, let Europe itch. And six months later, Erdogan will fall into the paws like a ripe persimmon. And it will be too late, all of Europe will already be pro-Turkish.
    3. Anar
      Anar 20 December 2020 11: 56
      0
      And why should they leave and not the Greeks?
      1. tralflot1832
        tralflot1832 20 December 2020 12: 35
        0
        The EU supports the Greeks, they owe them a couple of trains of money! Who will give to the Germans and the French! Erdogan with Aliyev?
  2. NDR-791
    NDR-791 19 December 2020 07: 17
    0
    Erdogan said that Turkey "has been marking time on the EU's doorstep for many years, but the doors are still closed for Turkey."
    Can they be invited to the BRICS and the CSTO? NATA shows them figurines, they don't take them to the EU. Let Nata screw it up and let's go. And what, the French went out and did not kill themselves against the wall.
    1. Volodin
      Volodin 19 December 2020 07: 19
      +3
      Quote: NDR-791
      Let Nata screw it up and let's go

      Or they may not screw up - that will be a joke: a unique multi-vector - both a member of NATO and the CSTO ...
      1. LiSiCyn
        LiSiCyn 19 December 2020 07: 28
        +1
        Quote: Volodin
        simultaneously a member of NATO and the CSTO ...

        You understand, this is not real. Incidentally, there are such rumors about the CU and the CSTO. But, something I do not believe. winked
      2. Ilya-spb
        Ilya-spb 19 December 2020 08: 57
        0
        This is not a multi-vector, it is a polynomial)))
      3. tralflot1832
        tralflot1832 20 December 2020 15: 22
        +1
        And the coolest military alliance is Turkey, China and Russia. Then everyone turns into third world countries, led by the United States. hi
  3. Alexander Kopychev
    Alexander Kopychev 19 December 2020 07: 21
    +2
    The Sultan will not be allowed to lead the Islamic world in the EU, I hope.
  4. LiSiCyn
    LiSiCyn 19 December 2020 07: 21
    +5
    And Erdogan was hooked ... Merkel called. Otherwise, we ourselves can ... It turns out that we cannot. Engines can't. SAM is not mogem. And it's not clear with the UAV ...
  5. apro
    apro 19 December 2020 07: 32
    +2
    And what do the Turks want there ??? an absolutely alien system.
    1. three
      three 19 December 2020 13: 29
      +2
      There, in Europe, there is a foundation, and quite strong, to create not just centers of Islam, but a system in the system and lead it. This is for a start. And then, when there are not only Muslim migrants in the EU, the EU itself, with its tolerantly stupid approach, will simply become at least half Muslim, and this is no longer cured ... And Brussels will be forced to listen not only to Berlin, but also to ankara. And Erdogan will have endless financial and political opportunities at the gates of legalizing the flow from nearby Votok and sowing. Africa to the EU. Erdogan is not as stupid as he is presented ... But all this fuss plays into our hands, Turkey - in the EU!
      1. apro
        apro 19 December 2020 13: 32
        -1
        Quote: tros
        There is a foundation in Europe

        Yes, there is a financial.production .... and who will let the Sultan approach him? He is not considered an equal.
  6. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 19 December 2020 07: 47
    0
    On December 12, Erdogan recorded a video message to the DPS (Renew Europe) party congress, at which its leader Mustafa Karadai was re-elected for a new term.

    The DPS has 25 out of 240 deputies in the National Assembly of Bulgaria. Officially, the pro-Turkish party is in opposition, but at decisive moments they supported the government of Boyko Borisov in exchange for economic benefits.

    "Dear members of the Movement for Rights and Freedoms, dear brothers and sisters, I sincerely congratulate you, feeling love and lust," Erdogan said in his address.

    He added:

    “We see that, under the chairmanship of my dear friend Boyko Borisov, Bulgaria is coping with the crisis caused by the pandemic. Based on the understanding that friends are known in trouble, Turkey also supports friendly and fraternal peoples to the best of its ability.” This statement was made the next day. after Borisov, together with German Chancellor Angela Merkel, took part in blocking sanctions against Turkey at the EU summit on December 10-11.

    Former Bulgarian Foreign Minister Ivaylo Kalfin recalled that the DPS under Erdogan had a difficult relationship with Turkey.

    "Erdogan's speech at the DPS congress is significant. The DPS is in opposition, but they have leverage over the government, and they obviously use it. The party is seeking power, and support for Turkey should help it get a better result in the elections and stronger tools for negotiating a future coalition ”. laughing https://www.euractiv.com/section/global-europe/news/erdogan-openly-interferes-in-bulgarian-politics-pundits-say/
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 19 December 2020 10: 44
      0
      Quote: Gennady Fomkin
      “We see that under the chairmanship of my dear friend Boyko Borisov, Bulgaria is coping with the crisis caused by the pandemic. Based on the understanding that friends are known in need, Turkey also supports friendly and fraternal peoples to the best of its ability.

      Isn't that why the Bulgarians and Russian brothers, together under Shipka beat the Turkish "friends"?
  7. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 19 December 2020 07: 51
    +4
    "But does the EU itself want this?"
    This is the main problem. In addition, Erdogan in recent years has clearly shown his expansive policy, which is not to the liking of the EU.
    1. knn54
      knn54 19 December 2020 11: 36
      +2
      Gennady, I will add a little - in the eyes of the EU, Edogan is not a reformer for a long time, and Turkey is considered an authoritarian state that has no place in the EU
  8. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 19 December 2020 07: 51
    0
    It's fine! Two NATO allies will merge in ecstasy. Maybe Bulgarians really yearn for a strong hand? And we lisp with them ... laughing Erdogan, Stop. Enough of our peacekeepers to place where they want wassat I don't think this is our business. laughing
  9. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 19 December 2020 08: 03
    +2
    Well, let Erdogan try. I hope the Polish hussars and German infantry will again find themselves with the Turks: near Vienna. laughing fellow
  10. Ros 56
    Ros 56 19 December 2020 08: 07
    -1
    In this case, only two exits, or knock out the door, or knock under the door and bring down from there. lol
  11. 7,62h54
    7,62h54 19 December 2020 08: 21
    +4
    Europe will not tolerate another Fuhrer
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 19 December 2020 10: 36
      +2
      Quote: 7,62x54
      Europe will not tolerate another Fuhrer

      Sultan the Magnificent.
  12. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 19 December 2020 09: 42
    -1
    I think Russia will again have a land border with Turkey. laughing
  13. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 19 December 2020 10: 06
    -2
    laughing Erdogan is not asking so
  14. tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 19 December 2020 10: 35
    0
    According to Recep Tayyip Erdogan, Ankara wants to turn the page in relations with the European Union, "but does the European Union itself want this?"

    And this after what Erdogan is doing, Europe should accept Turkey into the European Union?
    Yes, they are afraid of him "How the devil is incense", and Turkey will not see the European Union.
    If Europe barks at Russia, this does not mean that she is afraid of her, but she does not bark at Turkey, but she is afraid. Europe remembers well the history in which Russia has never attacked Europe, but Turkey has even reached Vienna (Austria) with predatory goals.
  15. the same doctor
    the same doctor 19 December 2020 10: 56
    -2
    For Turkey to enter the EU, it needs to leave NATO. And then make it a condition of return to admission to the EU.
  16. Metallurg_2
    Metallurg_2 19 December 2020 11: 17
    0
    What does Turkey have to do with Europe? They lost all European territories after WWI.
  17. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 19 December 2020 12: 08
    -4
    Quote: tihonmarine
    Quote: Gennady Fomkin
    “We see that under the chairmanship of my dear friend Boyko Borisov, Bulgaria is coping with the crisis caused by the pandemic. Based on the understanding that friends are known in need, Turkey also supports friendly and fraternal peoples to the best of its ability.

    Isn't that why the Bulgarians and Russian brothers, together under Shipka beat the Turkish "friends"?

    Where did the "brothers" beat the Turks? laughing Oh yes under a thorn: This task fell to the lot of the Caucasian War veteran, Lieutenant General FF Radetsky. This humble man by nature, whom some contemporaries compared with the blessed one, was to become one of the main characters of the Shipka epic. Under his command there were about 50 soldiers, with whom it was necessary to cover the front 000 km. The intentions of the enemy remained unclear, so much depended on Radetsky's reserve - the 120th Infantry Division under the command of Adjutant General M.I.Dragomirov, who was stationed in Tarnovo and was ready to advance to the threatened direction. On August 14, Suleiman Pasha's troops appeared in front of the Russian positions on Shipka. ... The Turkish commander lined up all his 7 camps (the Turkish camp roughly corresponded to the battalion, 60 camps - about 60 people) in a long line, as if wishing to intimidate a small detachment of Major General N.G. Stoletov, consisting of the 30th Infantry Regiment of Orlov and ( five) squads of the Bulgarian militia. laughing If the 35th Bryansk Regiment, which was exhausted from its forces, had not arrived at the pass on the same day, the defenders of Shipka could have been considered doomed.

    The Russians still had a chance of success thanks to the position occupied by the Orlov and Bryanskites. The road along the pass passed by Mount St. Nicholas, which was inaccessible from the front. The mountain was easily shot from the surrounding heights, but it was very difficult to climb. The position of Shipka's defenders was critical and was aggravated by the lack of supplies - the agents of the Horwitz, Greger, Kogan and Co partnership, which was engaged in supplying food to the army, fled from the pass at the first rumors the approach of the Turks. On August 9, 10, 11 and 12, the soldiers did not receive hot food, being content with breadcrumbs. The dressing equipment quickly came to an end, and by August 11 it was already necessary to save cartridges. However, the most important deficit for the Russians was water - it was a forty-degree heat, and water from mountain springs could only be taken at night with a great risk to life. What are the Bulgarians? laughing For six days of fighting on Shipka, the Russians lost up to 3350 people (including 500 Bulgarians).
  18. Brturin
    Brturin 19 December 2020 12: 20
    -2
    Quote: tralflot1832
    I also don’t understand Erdogan, having plans for PaxTurkey to climb into the EU. Experience did not teach England?

    So they have their own experience, "interactions" .... since 2016 they decided to become the sixth main payer of the Council of Europe (this is where PACE is) - the contribution is larger and apparently hoped ...
    "Recall: Turkish became the working language in the Council of Europe after Turkey became one of the main payers, since January this year. At the same time, in contrast to the Russians, who had the same privilege (and for the same reason since 1996), but at the same time trying to demonstrate knowledge of foreign languages ​​in the hall of the Palace of Europe, the Turks, as one, switched to their native Turkish in all speeches. As they say, paid ... "https://www.kommersant.ru/doc/2967045
    The Europeans took denyuzhka, only ... PACE decided to resume monitoring of human rights obligations in Turkey, the CE Prize named after Vaclav Havel was received by lawyer Murat Arslan, who is in prison ... as a result, at the end of 2017, PACE stated - "We see that Turkey refused from the status at the end of 2017 of the main payer "
  19. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 19 December 2020 12: 26
    -1
    Quote: Gennady Fomkin
    К

    Sorry, not a count, but the Most Serene Prince Potemkin-Tavrichesky! And the Bulgarians, in the geopolitical confrontation between the Russians and the Turkobess - to be honest - were "for furniture", like psheks in the western direction and it is naive to expect something from them ... laughing
  20. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 19 December 2020 12: 52
    -2
    ... Why you need to remember and love the Ottoman Empire - the Türkiye columnist answers. laughing
  21. Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov
    Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov 19 December 2020 13: 51
    +1
    ***
    Apply to the EAEU,
    maybe it will work out faster there ...
    ***
  22. Incvizitor
    Incvizitor 19 December 2020 14: 52
    -1
    As a tramp, a beggar has been begging for years at the door of the gay union, a pitiful sight.
    1. Anar
      Anar 20 December 2020 12: 09
      0
      Quote: Incvizitor
      As a tramp, a beggar has been begging for years at the door of the gay union, a pitiful sight.

      So you are wrong.
      Turkey accounted for just under 2019% of all global humanitarian aid in 26, Development Initiatives (DI), an independent international organization, said in a report released this week.

      In 2019, Ankara provided humanitarian aid worth $ 7,6 billion, while the total humanitarian aid amounted to $ 29,6 billion.Turkey is followed by the United States with $ 7 billion, Germany with $ 3,3 billion, the United Kingdom with $ 3,1 billion and Saudi Arabia with $ 1,4 billion

      Turkey is also leading in terms of the ratio of humanitarian aid to GDP (0,84%), while the indicator for the United States is 0,03%, Germany - 0,08%, Great Britain - 0,11% and Saudi Arabia - 0,18%.

      An estimated $ 23,1 billion in humanitarian aid was provided by governments and EU institutions, with the remainder from private funding sources. The report notes that most of the aid went to Yemen ($ 5 billion), Syria ($ 2,3 billion), Iraq ($ 1,3 billion), South Sudan and Palestine ($ 0,8 billion each). Multilateral organizations channeled $ 15,6 billion in humanitarian aid, while $ 4,1 billion was channeled through nongovernmental organizations and $ 3,1 billion through the international Red Cross and Red Crescent movement.

      According to the organization, Turkey has remained the leader in humanitarian aid for three years, starting in 2017. In 2013, 2014 and 2015, the country ranked third in DI reports, in 2016 - second.
  23. Antokha
    Antokha 19 December 2020 15: 38
    +2
    Europe is a community of Christian countries of Western Christianity (Catholicism and Protestantism). Turkey is Islam. Their mutual antipathy is absolutely natural and insoluble. Another thing is that Europe is sliding towards Satanism. In this case, it self-destructs, and Islam will simply take it with its bare hands.
  24. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 19 December 2020 16: 08
    -1
    Quote: Anton
    Europe is a community of Christian countries of Western Christianity (Catholicism and Protestantism). Turkey is Islam. Their mutual antipathy is absolutely natural and insoluble. Another thing is that Europe is sliding towards Satanism. In this case, it self-destructs, and Islam will simply take it with its bare hands.

    Where is "Christian Europe" now? laughing it is no longer fashionable The Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs announced that the icon, which was presented to the head of the Russian Foreign Ministry, Sergei Lavrov in Bosnia and Herzegovina (BiH), will be returned to donors to clarify its history. The bobby was instructed to bite through Lavrov's leg. Now we are observing the flight of a bobby, and this is not yet a lump on the firmament. Flocks of bobiks from all around are watching the flight with alarm and excitement. laughing

     

    “The icon will be returned to the donors for further clarification of its history through Interpol,” the Foreign Ministry said.

     That is, translated into Russian, "is the board written off, gentlemen?"

    But in the diplomatic world, this is not just a rebuke, this is a skunk ass in the face.

    So little thing seemed to be finished.

    Perhaps the little things show that theirs is the roof of the fsyo, and now they will ask as if they knew. But taking into account the setup from BiH, it was decided to continue playing with the physiognomy of BiH on the international stage. The question is that this is a series of stupidity of different leaders of BiH, or something in common and perhaps not known to us. Or a Bosnian militia, participating in the ATO in Donbass, casually dispossessing the local church? laughing Six months or a year ago, he said that in order to restore the status of a superpower in the eyes of all the limitrophes, Russia would have to destroy someone demonstratively. Our fellows have worked out the situation correctly.
  25. Diviz
    Diviz 19 December 2020 21: 06
    0
    One card of tartaria draws the other is picked. Who cares for what.
  26. Petrik66
    Petrik66 20 December 2020 08: 59
    0
    Turkey doesn't just stomp at the door, it shits on the EU's porch from time to time.