Soyuz-2.1b with British communications satellites launched from Vostochny cosmodrome

The Russian Soyuz-2.1b launch vehicle was launched from the Vostochny cosmodrome. As reported on the Roscosmos website, the rocket will launch 36 communication satellites of the British company OneWeb into orbit.

The rocket was launched from the 1C site of the Vostochny cosmodrome at 15:26. The launch took place as usual. At 15:35 the Fregat upper stage with 36 satellites separated from the third stage of the rocket on a suborbital trajectory. Further insertion of satellites into a target circular orbit with an altitude of 450 km will be carried out by turning on the propulsion engines of the Fregat upper stage. The satellite separation will take place in nine stages of 4 satellites, starting at 16:44.

It is noted that this is the 16th launch of the Russian space rocket this year and the sixth from the Vostochny Cosmodrome since 2016. This launch is the first fully commercial one launched from Vostochny. Prior to that, commercial satellites were removed from this cosmodrome as a payload with the main Russian vehicles.

(...) the launch was the first fully commercial spacecraft launch from the Russian Vostochny cosmodrome. In addition, it also became the first launch carried out by the French company Arianespace for OneWeb from this spaceport.

- said the Russian state corporation.

According to Roscosmos, another launch will be made from the Kourou cosmodrome in French Guiana by the end of the year.

LEO OneWeb spacecraft are designed to provide terrestrial consumers with high-speed Internet directly via satellite communications. To date, the group in low-earth orbit has 74 spacecraft.

Comments

[Yaro Polk]

No need for any money to help the damned Anglo-Saxon Russophobes

[Letun]

Quote: Yaro Polk

No need for any money to help the damned Anglo-Saxon Russophobes

Yeah. The mother will feed and buy jeans. Oh. Jeans are American! Pants. Simple trousers.

[Proxima]

We are waiting for decisive action from the British government, which will impose sanctions on the British company OneWeb for cooperation with Roscosmos.

[zloybond]

this is a must. if not, then we will impose))))

[Aag]

Quote: zloybond

this is a must. if not, then we will impose))))

A short comment, and how many meanings you can put!
Do not allow the possibility of discrepancies!

[APASUS]

Quote: Proxima

We are waiting for decisive action from the British government, which will impose sanctions on the British company OneWeb for cooperation with Roscosmos.

They will not impose. Where necessary, they can perfectly keep silent and bite their tongue

[donavi49]

The British company OneWeb has signed a contract with ArianSpace. ArianSpace takes part from Kuru, part from Russia. The actual customer of this launch is ArianSpace.

If anyone arrives, then ArianSpace. But the probability is about 0%.

[knn54]

In October 2018, the Russian Federal Security Service (FSB) also opposed Russia's participation in the OneWeb project. In her opinion, the satellite network can be used for intelligence purposes to the detriment of Russia's national security. In addition, the security officials believe that the implementation of the project may threaten the profitability of the activities of domestic telecom operators, especially in sparsely populated and hard-to-reach areas, and also make Russians completely dependent on foreign communication systems.

[Keyser soze]

also make Russians completely dependent on foreign communication systems.

This is the future and in some places the present - put a plate and Uncle Musk gives you a hundred megabits, with three milliseconds of delay he gives. And goodbye to the great Chinese firewall ... Progress cannot be stopped by prohibitions.

[ZAV69]

Quote: Keyser Soze

This is the future and in some places the present - put a plate and Uncle Musk gives you a hundred megabits, with three milliseconds of delay he gives.

So big and you believe in fairy tales.

[Keyser soze]

So big and you believe in fairy tales.

Go to YouTube and drive Starlink internet test speed. They are already on sale and in use.
The minus is not mine.

[Aag]

Quote: Keyser Soze

also make Russians completely dependent on foreign communication systems.

This is the future and in some places the present - put a plate and Uncle Musk gives you a hundred megabits, with three milliseconds of delay he gives. And goodbye to the great Chinese firewall ... Progress cannot be stopped by prohibitions.

Sorry, along with the commercial component, the issue of national security will be touched upon ...

[ZAV69]

Quote: Keyser Soze

This is the future and in some places the present - put a plate and Uncle Musk gives you a hundred megabits, with three milliseconds of delay he gives.

The real speed is 134 down and 19 up with a delay of 39. And that is not always the case. And this despite the fact that only testers sit on the satellite. No one knows what will happen with the real load. Here is the link https://3dnews.ru/1024391/pervie-vpechatleniya-ot-sputnikovogo-interneta-starlink-komfortnie-skorost-i-zadergka-prostaya-ustanovkaoborudovaniya
ps Do not forget about the weather, in good clouds and heavy rain, subscribers will generally smoke.

[Keyser soze]

And this despite the fact that only testers sit on the satellite. So far, no one knows what will happen with a real load.

It's the Americans - Uncle Musk is already selling. At the same time, it tests the real load of satellites. And now it is not enough, but there will be 12 thousand. But if you are in the middle of nothing and your speed drops from 100 to even 1 megabit, then it's better than no Internet.

[Narak-zempo]

Quote: Keyser Soze

it's better than no internet.

Worse.
Because even in a remote skete, it deprives a person of the opportunity to think about saving the soul instead of watching beauty bloggers

[Piramidon]

Quote: ZAV69

Do not forget about the weather, in good clouds and heavy rain, subscribers will generally smoke.

And what, in this weather, all satellite communications collapse?

[ZAV69]

Quote: Piramidon

And what, in this weather, all satellite communications collapse?

And what's news for you that in bad weather you can suck a paw? Here is a living example: Tula region, Eutelsat 36B satellite, Supral 55 dish, NTV + provider in heavy rain, the signal can drop to 0. And if the mirror clogs with sleet, the signal in front of our eyes at 0 leaves. By the way, from this satellite, in good weather, you can watch movies at 35 cm. Do you think the Internet signal behaves differently?

[Piramidon]

So this is not the attenuation of the satellite signal, but the shitty dish, when wet, changes its properties. Have you tried to cover it with some kind of radio-transparent material from water and snow?

[ZAV69]

Quote: Piramidon

So this is not the attenuation of the satellite signal, but the shitty dish, when wet, changes its properties. Have you tried to cover it with some kind of radio-transparent material from water and snow?

Have you read my post carefully? In heavy rain, the signal goes down. Sits down in a thunderstorm. I've been doing satellite TV for about 15 years, probably. What I just didn’t try, I was turning to catch all satellites from 30W to 95E, and I studied the dependence of the signal quality on weather conditions. The strongest signal was in winter in severe frost, when the atmosphere was clean and calm, I calmly fished everything from the 19.2 aster, usually you cannot catch everything there. Although here it is already offtopic

[Aag]

Quote: knn54

In October 2018, the Russian Federal Security Service (FSB) also opposed Russia's participation in the OneWeb project. In her opinion, the satellite network can be used for intelligence purposes to the detriment of Russia's national security. In addition, the security officials believe that the implementation of the project may threaten the profitability of the activities of domestic telecom operators, especially in sparsely populated and hard-to-reach areas, and also make Russians completely dependent on foreign communication systems.

Now this is already serious ... Can you refer to the source?

[Starover_Z]

Quote: knn54

the implementation of the project may threaten the profitability of the activities of domestic telecom operators, especially in sparsely populated and hard-to-reach areas, and also make Russians completely dependent on foreign communication systems.

And besides

To date, the group in low-earth orbit has 74 spacecraft.

this is only part of one satellite constellation of one country! With such a speed, soon the clouds of satellites will close the Sun from us, instead of meteorological clouds ...

[slipped]

Quote: knn54

In October 2018, against Russia's participation in the OneWeb project

However, there is Russian participation in the company. Moreover, each launched satellite is equipped with Russian stationary plasma engines.

[Jacket in stock]

Quote: knn54

The implementation of the project may threaten the profitability of the activities of domestic telecom operators, especially in sparsely populated and hard-to-reach areas, and also make Russians completely dependent on foreign communication systems.

As for addiction, the solution is very simple, you create your own system and the question is closed.
As for profitability, it is more difficult, the business will have to show social responsibility (and in Russian, to moderate its greed), or pay for the event from the state budget. For competition exists regardless of our wishes. You cannot forbid satellites to fly over our territory, and if they are not launched by the Soyuz, someone else will launch them anyway. If we refuse, we will just shoot ourselves in the foot.

[Yaro Polk]

Now all the rags in China are sewn ... son

[Runoway]

Yeah. The mother will feed and buy jeans. Oh. Jeans are American! Pants. Simple trousers.

Where are you fighting like that? Soon you will be put in a pose and organs will be cut out, and you will talk about earnings and development !!!
We have been sending round timber for 20 years to China and Finland, they earn billions on this, and we have nothing else to develop the space industry with, except by sending satellites of those who are not built for us.
And how much of this "round timber" is everywhere. The country has everything from rich reserves to brains. Only the authorities are busy only to take a loan from the IMF at 4% and here to distribute at 25%, killing any opportunity for the development of either industry or even more so for agriculture. So, in everything from markovi from Israel to toothpicks and microchips from China, there is nothing of our own, it's easier to buy for a ruble and sell by a monopolist for 25
They simply shatter the population and compensate for the shortage with migrants

[Xnumx vis]

Quote: Runoway

Only the authorities are busy only to to take a loan from the IMF at 4% and here to distribute at 25%, killing any opportunity for the development of either industry, let alone agriculture.

Uncle don't whistle! Since 2000, Russia has never applied for IMF loansand its total debt to the Fund was reduced by 2004 to $ 5,1 billion. In January 2005, in accordance with the provisions of the IMF Charter on early repayment of loans by members of the Fund, which significantly improved their balance of payments and increased the size of foreign exchange reserves, Russia paid the IMF the entire volume of accumulated debt (about $ 3,3 billion), thereby fully paying off its obligations to this organization. https://ria.ru/20140224/996722123.html

[x.andvlad]

So understand who to whom with reconciliation ...

Business and nothing personal.

[AshPoseidon]

So these same satellites for the Internet, and Roscosmos denyuzhka will not hurt.

[Aviator_]

Business only, nothing personal. Gazprom won "Echo Matzo" contains, and nothing.

[Viktor Sergeev]

It is foolish to lose the money needed to develop the space industry. Are you ready to spite the Anglo-Saxons to destroy your economy?

[iouris]

Quote: Yaro Polk

No need to help for any money

Do they also pay?

[Grits]

Quote: Yaro Polk

No need for any money to help the damned Anglo-Saxon Russophobes

On the contrary - let them get hooked on our "space needle". And bash, bash, bash ...

[iouris]

So that you understand, in the space industry the volume of services for launching satellites ("space" transportation) is approximately 5% (ie nothing) of the market volume. The rest is owned by satellite owners who provide telecommunications and other services. There is no doubt that the enemy's military reconnaissance and telecommunication satellites are also launched with the help of Roscosmos.

[Thrifty]

God grant that everything goes well! So that every start is trouble-free! !!

[seti]

Quote: Thrifty

God grant that everything goes well! So that every start is trouble-free! !!

The satellites are not ours, so on the one hand, it may not be bad that they do not go into orbit. On the other hand, then they will not contact us. Dilemma.
Something like a third is needed - to make a corrective so that if something happens they will ...

[Cosm22]

You just have to have your PN.
Like Musk.
Then you won't have to look for a job with the damned bourgeoisie.

[AshPoseidon]

In which case there is our videoconferencing.

[Cosm22]

And what about their orders? From Mon?
Abundance?
Such that even Angara can be puzzled with only 4-6 launches per year? And so far theoretically?

[Keyser soze]

In which case there is our videoconferencing.

Not to mention ... Starlink satellites will be 12, the size of a small suitcase ...
Even Darth Vader won't have time to shoot down that many ...

[K-612-O]

Since they are broadcasting to all of us, there is no cosmodrome, everything was stolen and everything fell apart! How so? And about the contract with OneWeb, he also left Musk. Well, how is that? Roskosmos has been gone for a long time, only Rogozin and his office remained

[Blackmokona]

Musk's OneWeb contract doesn't go away because Musk makes a Starlink competitor.

[K-612-O]

And How? In contrast to this project, while it is somehow sour, promises, and requests for investment.

[Blackmokona]

Musk already provides Internet clients, and there are almost a thousand Starlink satellites in space.

[Cosm22]

How is sour?
Is it very soon there will be a thousand satellites in orbit?
Is this the speed of production of satellites - 6 units per day? Moreover, it should be noted that this is its own PN. Musk is not begging for foreign customers in search of work, he provides himself with it. He displays his PN with his reusable PH.
Is it already tested internet with speeds of over 100 Mbps with ultra-low latency (even before the number of satellites is full)?
Who's sour, can you clarify?

[Cosm22]

Are you confusing anything?
Who and when said that the contract with OneWeb went to Musk? It was only about the bankruptcy of the company, which was pulled out of the financial hole by the British and the Indians. And who now give to earn at least some pretty penny RK.
Which is actually not entirely clear.
To date, I have no data, but in February 2020 the situation looked like this.
The launch price of Soyuz-STB (which flew to Soyuz-2.1b), according to RIA-Novosti, was about $ 48,5 million for 6 satellites. That is, about 8 million for 1 satellite.
At the same time, at the beginning of 2018, Musk managed to reduce the launch price from $ 61,2 million to $ 42,8. Only by reusing the first stage, and the price will decrease in the future and by reducing the cost of insurance. According to Gwynne Shotwell, the price of one launch today under the Starlink program is in the range of 0,6-0,7 million dollars.
And it is unlikely that the trend since February for the cost of launching the Alliances has changed. However, it is unlikely that we will be told anything about this at all.

[Boris Chernikov]

and we have many countries are able to launch space? if in fact, then only a few ..

[RUSS]

Quote: Boris Chernikov

and we have many countries are able to launch space? if in fact, then only a few ..

And many do not need it, it's easier to pay the loot for launching a satellite, or how the United Arab Emirates can cooperate with NASA.

[Boris Chernikov]

but even the British did not go .. because everyone has everything scheduled and no one will give 26 missiles

[K-612-O]

France, India, Israel, Japan, China, Iran. This is apart from the USA and us.
And with us, as I understand it, it turned out cheaper and more reliable than the guardians. Britons can count

[Boris Chernikov]

oh yes ... especially Israel will be able to build 26 missiles with a carrying capacity of up to 7 tons

[Cosm22]

It is possible, of course, that the price tag of the Union for a cassette with 36 satellites against 60 for Musk has changed for the better. But hardly drastically.
RK only has this job because OneWeb is a direct competitor to Starlink. And the company is forced to close its eyes to the launch price.

[K-612-O]

Our launches are objectively cheaper. The RK does not receive, on the first demand, preferential money and the NASOV budget. Alas, Space is an objectively unprofitable company, like Tesla. One has only to calculate the economics of the processes based on the market prices of components and fuel, I am silent about the lease of sites

[Cosm22]

This, apparently, is purely from the fact that SpaceX is "objectively unprofitable company, like Tesla", Musk shares 2-3 place in the list of the richest people in the world?
And fantasies about "our launches, which are objectively cheaper" and getting "on demand money and the Nazov budget" would be nice to back up with links.
And most importantly, if you don't understand the topic, why do you stubbornly cling to it? Can you tell you about the history of the relationship between SpaceX and NASA? Remind you how much money and time Musk lost to NASA's delays in certifying the Nine and Dragon grades?
Why write nonsense?

[voyaka uh]

This is still candy ... There are 3000 Amazon satellites ahead.
They, however, will focus on tracking the delivery of goods.
Amazon will become a global postal service.
But these satellites will be equipped with compact centimeter AFARs.
And they can track a lot of things ...

[donavi49]

OneWeb turn a blind eye to the launch price

In general, I bought all the free carriers in due time. If the Virginies didn’t do it, then they had to launch the first one even before OneWeb went bankrupt, and this year 6 LauncherOne with OneWeb were to be withdrawn.

On June 25, 2015 Virgin Galactic signed an agreement with OneWeb Ltd. for 39 launches of satellites of the OneWeb constellation with an option for an additional 100 launches.

At the time of the counter - Launcher, she has not even passed the throws yet. That's how they wanted to be the first on the train with the internet cream. But it didn't work out.

[K-612-O]

As it is, articles from FT and NYT were immediately sucked in the comments at the end of last and the beginning of this year

[Aag]

Quote: Cosm22

Are you confusing anything?
Who and when said that the contract with OneWeb went to Musk? It was only about the bankruptcy of the company, which was pulled out of the financial hole by the British and the Indians. And who now give to earn at least some pretty penny RK.
Which is actually not entirely clear.
To date, I have no data, but in February 2020 the situation looked like this.
The launch price of Soyuz-STB (which flew to Soyuz-2.1b), according to RIA-Novosti, was about $ 48,5 million for 6 satellites. That is, about 8 million for 1 satellite.
At the same time, at the beginning of 2018, Musk managed to reduce the launch price from $ 61,2 million to $ 42,8. Only by reusing the first stage, and the price will decrease in the future and by reducing the cost of insurance. According to Gwynne Shotwell, the price of one launch today under the Starlink program is in the range of 0,6-0,7 million dollars.
And it is unlikely that the trend since February for the cost of launching the Alliances has changed. However, it is unlikely that we will be told anything about this at all.

Can you explain: how is the payment (tax) calculated? For a satellite place, a meter, kilogram-kilometer? No mockery, tricks, - to understand the situation on the space delivery market ... (No, I don't want to run my mother-in-law or a cat.)))) At the same time, if possible, about insurance: who, how, on the basis of what criteria, it determines (otherwise, it may turn out as it was with sea transportation at one time, it is more profitable to drown a ship ...)

[Blackmokona]

For the rocket. And then you can find fellow travelers and share the launch price.
Musk offers used, not used, with or without refund. Normal or Heavy.

[slipped]

Quote: Cosm22

And who now give to earn at least some pretty penny RK.

Lover to lie once again. A penny is earned not on launches, but on the provision of services from flying spacecraft. Launch services are a very small part of the revenue.

Quote: Cosm22

Soyuz-STB launch price (which flew up to Soyuz-2.1b)

STB is a Soyuz-2.1b in a tropical version.

Quote: Cosm22

according to RIA-Novosti it was about 48,5 million dollars for 6 satellites.

6 of the first satellites - this was a test launch at Arianspace from Kuru. 68 satellites were launched from Baikonur, 34 satellites in a cluster. 36 satellites are currently being launched from Vostochny. The next launch of 36 satellites from Vostochny is in February.

Quote: Cosm22

At the same time, at the beginning of 2018, Musk managed to reduce the launch price from $ 61,2 million to $ 42,8.

Soyuz-2.1b launches from Russian territory are sold as a package.

Quote: Cosm22

And it is unlikely that the trend since February for the cost of launching the Alliances has changed. However, it is unlikely that we will be told anything about this at all.

What should I tell you? That the contract for the Soyuz-2 launches has been almost fully paid by Arianspace?

[Cosm22]

Finally, the opponent gathered his thoughts and at least gave birth to something, half a day later.
1. A launch is not included in the list of services, are you a fan of our verbal demagoguery and verbiage? And since "Launch services are a very small part of revenue", please be kind enough to voice this part in numerical or percentage terms. With reference to a reliable source. So that I don't laugh much, looking at the night.
2. I know. And what difference does that make? I just gave out extremely accurate information.
3. I am not interested in what happened or what will happen next. I announced the data for February 2020. This is clearly stated in the commentary. What's not clear?
4. This is Musk selling launches. Russia sells the product (in this case, the entire launch vehicle, which is why the price is high), because everything burns out irrevocably in the first flight.
5. In my opinion, in Russian, not Chinese, I asked about the launch price of one satellite. Conditional, EU-but. But digital. This information came from Gwynne Shotville. Where is that of the RK? What is not clear again?

[Cosm22]

1. I am a fairly successful freelancer and work on a computer. Can't you do that? I can’t help you who studied what.
2. If this is called facts, then be so kind as to voice at least a couple of specific numbers.
3. Rudeness speaks only about lack of culture, about the costs of education, or about complete powerlessness to refute anything with arguments. This is not the best human quality; you should not flaunt it.
4. Ie if a person with his mind and efficiency, his talent to see a few steps ahead has created a team that has laid the entire RK on blades for several years and created magnificent new CCs and reusable cheap launch vehicles - is this now called dumping? It's funny. And who prevents the same Rogozin from dumping in the same way?
5. If the price is cheap, voice it. Why be shy? Or is there something to be hushed up?
6. With the latter, alas, I agree. Russia can really afford everything. Even to burn absolutely all launch vehicles in the first and last flight for them.

[Dart2027]

Quote: K-612-O

Since they are broadcasting to all of us, there is no cosmodrome, everything was stolen and everything fell apart! How so?

National tradition sir. We can't help but scream that everything is lost.

[Ros 56]

And these small natives from the island then declare that Russia is lagging behind the West? Yes, hit the wall with a running start.

[Alexey Sommer]

That's honest.
It's the same if Israel launched Hezbollah satellites.
And no mercantile interests justify it.

[Vadim237]

This justifies the pay for the launch.

[Sidor Amenpodestovich]

Quote: Alexey Sommer

That's honest.
It's the same if Israel launched Hezbollah satellites.
And no mercantile interests justify it.

The satellites are not military, the customer is not the UK government.
Some strange insults. Level "don't play with my toys, and don't pee in my pot".

[barclay]

So, just in case: nothing prevents the British government and its military department from concluding a contract with this office, you yourself understand why ...

[K-612-O]

This is excuse the scoop and China is some sort of and not progressive humanity

[Boris Chernikov]

besides the fact that ours made money on this, and even looked at the satellites themselves, not to mention the competence in creating such networks

[Paranoid50]

Quote: Alexey Sommer

the same would happen if Israel launched Hezbollah satellites.

For (very good) money, Israel will launch for both Hamas and Hezbollah. Moreover, it will launch without even having its own cosmodrome - the price of the issue will open any doors, even into space.

[anjey]

The most powerful and changeable ideology of our time is Salvage. As you will not remember the heroes-unmercenaries, who glorified their lives for the ideas of equality, brotherhood and prosperity of the next generations and the country, there was something sacred in this and the enemy was an enemy but each other in their minds. Now everything is creative, corruptible on a grand scale but small with a soul.

[RUSS]

Quote: anjey

The most powerful and volatile ideology of our time is Salvage.

Give up the American Internet, don't buy Western medicines, don't drive Western cars, don't watch American and Western films.

[anjey]

It's just that we compensate any pressure from the West, creatively neutralizing it, by another deflection in their direction, maybe it's more constructive, but as history shows, they perceive it as a weakness ... Moreover, integration with the West is not expected in the near future

[anjey]

The Anglo-Saxon Russophobic vector is the most hostile in the world in relation to Russia, maybe this is a cunning move to destroy their political consolidation, I don't know ..

[Kuz]

Quote: anjey

maybe this is a clever move to destroy their political consolidation

Yeah, drive a wedge ... And there is also such a thing: "If you fight with something, then it becomes stronger"

[RUSS]

Quote: anjey

Moreover, integration with the West is not expected in the near future

Well, who knows

[anjey]

Humpback and Eltsin tried it, but it turned out as always, they took everything from us to the maximum and breadth of our soul, and instead destroyed the USSR, turning us into aborigines of a three-grade colony, they do not genetically perceive us as equals, maybe this is their complex, since they understand that we are they are higher in everything.

[RUSS]

Quote: anjey

Humpback and Eltsin tried it, but it worked out as always, they took everything from us to the maximum and the breadth of our soul, and in return they destroyed the USSR,

Who collapsed the USSR?

[anjey]

With the filing and support of the West, our corrupt political-nationalist functionaries from the government-bureaucratic elite ...

[kit88]

This is the world.
We answer two questions for ourselves:
1. Will it harm security?
2. Is it profitable from a commercial point of view?
If there is no harm and profitable, you can (should) do it safely.
By the way, this is exactly how our potential partners act, imposing sanctions on SP-2, but at the same time they fly on our Unions, use our engines for missiles, buy our titanium ...

[K-612-O]

Well, do not forget to go to China and look at their ideology, especially in the lower and middle class. Leave the dense populism far away in the closet

[Eldorado]

Not in the subject, but at the "Admiralty Shipyards" they launched the unique Arctic platform "North Pole"!

[nobody75]

When will the domestic data transmission and geolocation network based on low-bitrate satellites - routers operating on the IP V6 protocol appear? How long will we work as cabbies?
Sincerely

[Virus-free crown]

Quote: nobody75

When will the domestic data transmission and geolocation network based on low-bitrate satellites - routers operating on the IP V6 protocol appear? How long will we work as cabbies?
Sincerely

As Putin said yesterday, God forbid, as they say, next year to connect all schools in our country to high-speed Internet ... Then, you look, and a century will not pass - and we will launch IP V6

... And the fact that for the disruption of the program of connecting all schools in the country to the Internet by 2020 (there was such a program at the state level) - he did not say ... he did not report to us yesterday, who was imprisoned and how much ... for theft )))

[nobody75]

I don’t understand ... Do we have schools in our country that are not connected to fiber? And how do they then work with an electronic journal, with sick leave, with accounting reports?
Sincerely

[Virus-free crown]

Quote: nobody75

I don’t understand ... Do we have schools in our country that are not connected to fiber? And how do they then work with an electronic journal, with sick leave, with accounting reports?
Sincerely

))) What fiber ?! What are you about?! 2020 - 100 km from Moscow - a town with 100+ thousand residents, the school is connected via a copper wire ... however, it gives out its honest 10 megabits / s, I will not lie)))

By the way, you may not believe me - but believe Putin, he broadcast to the whole world yesterday and swore on oath that next year all schools will be connected to the Internet)))

[nobody75]

It is clear that over Gigabit Ethernet through a managed switch or media converter. The school router directly to the optics (I usually put a microt or software on bsd or debian. For small schools, the SME server is not bad - an analogue of ms small bisness server. Everything in one squid + Openldap + iptables plus postman ftp and vpn) will not be allowed, but 10 megabits for the whole school ?! I have 10 times more at home now ...
Sincerely

[Virus-free crown]

Quote: nobody75

It is clear that over Gigabit Ethernet through a managed switch or media converter. The school router directly to the optics (I usually put a microt or software on bsd or debian. For small schools, the SME server is not bad - an analogue of ms small bisness server. Everything in one squid + Openldap + iptables plus postman ftp and vpn) will not be allowed, but 10 megabits for the whole school ?! I have 10 times more at home now ...
Sincerely

In this particular school, we, the parents, acted even easier))) In parallel, we installed (at our personal, parental expense) a router from Megafon - 100 megabytes / s at the peak gives out unlimited - and we broadcast for the whole school - only 2000 rubles. the whole thing costs us a month)))

[nobody75]

Have you stuck an ordinary router? And proxy traffic through dansguardian? Protect children from information of extreme and pornographic content? Oh, they'll put your school director in prison ... Have you even set up a network for vlan and profiled traffic, I hope?
Sincerely

[Virus-free crown]

Quote: nobody75

Have you stuck an ordinary router? And proxy traffic through dansguardian? Protect children from information of extreme and pornographic content? Oh, they'll put your school director in prison ... Have you even set up a network for vlan and profiled traffic, I hope?
Sincerely

As I understand it, you understand what it is about - but I will write it in simple Russian so that everyone would understand! (I, for example, in jewelry (for example - noob full ))

There is a device - it is controlled by representatives of the Ministry of Education - he is just doing all such tricky things))) at the entrance he had a copper pair with incoming traffic of 10 mgb / s ... we inserted an intermediate link - a router from a megaphone - and now 100 mb / sec - incoming traffic, and how and who controls it is no longer our concern

[ZAV69]

Quote: Corona without virus

In this particular school, we, parents, acted even easier))) In parallel, we installed (at our personal, parental expense)

You. And the director. The check will come and that's all .... He will fly out of work, and the prosecutor's office will wind the veins on a mop.

[Virus-free crown]

Quote: ZAV69

Quote: Corona without virus

In this particular school, we, parents, acted even easier))) In parallel, we installed (at our personal, parental expense)

You. And the director. The check will come and that's all .... He will fly out of work, and the prosecutor's office will wind the veins on a mop.

Nothing will happen to us - neither to the school director, nor to us, the parents))) I wrote - they connected it in PARALLEL;) before the ENTRANCE to the device, which is controlled by the Ministry of Education))) that the cord from the copperhead is stuck in the wrong place in the router - anything can happen))) and traffic, as the minobraz controls, so does it, all sorts of gateways / anti-gateways are his concern

and so we live in Russia ... in the Constitutional State - we are a social state:

Article 7

1. The Russian Federation is a social state whose policy is aimed at creating conditions that ensure a decent life and free development of a person.

but in practice ... ... but in practice, parents must twist themselves so as not to violate the Laws, so that their children would receive "the benefits of civilization"

[nobody75]

Did you do that?

Sincerely

[Virus-free crown]

Quote: nobody75

Did you do that?

Sincerely

Yes, so)) almost so ... only on the left you have an internal grid in the picture ... and we have a 10 mb input included in the WRONG socket to the school router;) the school router itself filters traffic further, etc., etc.)) and further on the picture you need 192.168 on the right *. *. )))

[nobody75]

All your traffic goes to Megaphone ... And it is not filtered ... Since the entire system does not enter the internal network ... Or the speed of 10 Mbit would be
Sincerely

[Virus-free crown]

Quote: nobody75

All your traffic goes to Megaphone ... And it is not filtered ... Since the entire system does not enter the internal network ... Or the speed of 10 Mbit would be
Sincerely

okay one more time
1. Traffic from Megafon goes directly to the school router, and then the school router itself filters and distributes, etc., etc.
2. The OFFICIAL Internet input is plugged into the wrong slot (internal) on the school router - so the official Internet is FORMALLY plugged into the wrong slot;)

So wrote it more clearly? )))

[nobody75]

The fact of the matter is that the school router itself does not filter anything! he stupidly pulls on 10. *. *. *. And all filtering is carried out already within this network - on the servers. You bypassed this network, otherwise you would have a speed of 10 Mbps for any.
Sincerely

[Virus-free crown]

Quote: nobody75

The fact of the matter is that the school router itself does not filter anything! he stupidly pulls on 10. *. *. *. And all filtering is carried out already within this network - on the servers. You bypassed this network, otherwise you would have a speed of 10 Mbps for any.
Sincerely

yy)))))))))) The school router at the entrance has an input port of 10/100 mb - it detects automatically ... a 10 mb copper pair was connected to it - we pushed it out, and shoved 100 mb from the megaphone router. .. the school router then by itself did it and does it - it just has 100 mgb instead of 10))))))))

[nobody75]

Yes, it's not about which port you plugged in and how much Mbit is raised, you route the route to ya.ru or topwar.ru and you will see that all traffic goes through a megaphone. Therefore, the joy of speed!
Better yet, go to some bad site from home and see if you can go to it from school. An alternative can only be routing rules for different subnets. For example, children from a class of 10 Mbps enter the network, and the administration of 100.
Sincerely

[Virus-free crown]

Quote: nobody75

Yes, it's not about which port you plugged in and how much Mbit is raised, you route the route to ya.ru or topwar.ru and you will see that all traffic goes through a megaphone. Therefore, the joy of speed!
Better yet, go to some bad site from home and see if you can go to it from school. An alternative can only be routing rules for different subnets. For example, children from a class of 10 Mbps enter the network, and the administration of 100.
Sincerely

The Ministry of Education is responsible for the school router, we do not need to contact it !!! )) what he filters there and how - we do not know - we just feed 100 mgb to the input - and they are real, these 100

[nobody75]

Of course real ... As well as the deadline for your headmaster ...
Sincerely

[Virus-free crown]

Quote: nobody75

Of course real ... As well as the deadline for your headmaster ...
Sincerely

Well then ... let's sit all:



starting with the deputy prosecutor of the city ... he sanctioned the whole thing))))))))), you know, he also wants his son to receive knowledge at school))

[nobody75]

He's not an expert on networks - he hasn't entered the topic ...
Sincerely

[ZAV69]

Quote: nobody75

It is clear that over Gigabit Ethernet through a managed switch or media converter. The school router directly to the optics (I usually put a microt or software on bsd or debian. For small schools, the SME server is not bad - an analogue of ms small bisness server. Everything in one squid + Openldap + iptables plus postman ftp and vpn) will not be allowed, but 10 megabits for the whole school ?!

There is a huawei 2326 switch, behind it is a zuxel giga II router. Class B network with more than 500 addresses. He drives this GAO CIT. Access through certificates. And the speed of everything was clamped at 10, right now it seemed to be opened at 50.
It was a federal program. EIKS is called. Right now, another one has passed, for those who did not get into the first one. SZO is called.

[ZAV69]

Quote: Corona without virus

))) What fiber ?! What are you about?! laughing 2020 - 100 km from Moscow - a town with 100+ thousand residents, the school is connected via a copper wire ... however, it gives out its honest 10 megabits / s, I won't lie)))

180 km from Moscow. All rural schools in the district are on fiber, all kindergartens are also. All libraries and clubs. I'm not even talking about city people. So excuse me, I do not believe that your school lives on copper. What is squeezed in the billing is the greed of your education committee.

[Virus-free crown]

Quote: ZAV69

Quote: Corona without virus

))) What fiber ?! What are you about?! laughing 2020 - 100 km from Moscow - a town with 100+ thousand residents, the school is connected via a copper wire ... however, it gives out its honest 10 megabits / s, I won't lie)))

180 km from Moscow. All rural schools in the district are on fiber, all kindergartens are also. All libraries and clubs. I'm not even talking about city people. So excuse me, I do not believe that your school lives on copper. What is squeezed in the billing is the greed of your education committee.

And we, parents, are fools? And from our own funds, every year on the 15th of September, a year in advance, we throw off on the school Internet ?!

[ZAV69]

Quote: Corona without virus

And we, parents, are fools? laughing And from our own funds, every year on the 15th of September for the year ahead we throw off on the school Internet ?!

When your smart-ass director is pulled by the bells to the prosecutor's office, he will thank you, tk. it is not for nothing that a transparent network is made and it is not for nothing that the filtration system is worth it. Of course, you will stir up the petition for change org, throw shit on the fan on all social networks, you will not help him with the current. You'd better take off your router, until the gloomy guys in suits and ties arrived and took it off, together with the director. After all, there are statistics, they are analyzed

[Virus-free crown]

Quote: ZAV69

Quote: Corona without virus

And we, parents, are fools? laughing And from our own funds, every year on the 15th of September for the year ahead we throw off on the school Internet ?!

When your smart-ass director is pulled by the bells to the prosecutor's office, he will thank you, tk. it is not for nothing that a transparent network is made and it is not for nothing that the filtration system is worth it. Of course, you will stir up the petition for change org, throw shit on the fan on all social networks, you will not help him with the current. You'd better take off your router, until the gloomy guys in suits and ties arrived and took it off, together with the director. After all, there are statistics, they are analyzed

Well, if "dancing from the stove" ...))) then the "smart ones" are us, parents ... Who in 2016 were outraged that the school was sitting at 10 mgb / sec ... and we received a notification from the Ministry of Education "there is no money - but you are holding on" (c) Medvedev Well, we decided in our own way ... within the framework of the Law

[Virus-free crown]

Quote: ZAV69

Quote: Corona without virus

And we, parents, are fools? laughing And from our own funds, every year on the 15th of September for the year ahead we throw off on the school Internet ?!

When your smart-ass director is pulled by the bells to the prosecutor's office, he will thank you, tk. it is not for nothing that a transparent network is made and it is not for nothing that the filtration system is worth it. Of course, you will stir up the petition for change org, throw shit on the fan on all social networks, you will not help him with the current. You'd better take off your router, until the gloomy guys in suits and ties arrived and took it off, together with the director. After all, there are statistics, they are analyzed

But !!! ... I yesterday PERSONALLY heard Putin promise to connect our school to the Internet next year You look ... as they say ... not even 3 years will pass ... and finally our school, 100 km from Moscow, will be connected))) I would like to believe ...

[ZAV69]

Quote: Corona without virus

But !!! ... I heard yesterday PERSONALLY how Putin promised next year to connect our school to the Internet wassat You look ... as they say ... not even 3 years will pass ... and finally our school, in 100 km from Moscow, connect))) I would like to believe ...

Is it yours? in 2015-2016, the Rostelecom Center macro-branch had the EIKS program, schools, clubs, libraries, rural administrations were connected. Almost everything was connected. Last year, the SZO program began, they connected what remained unconnected: fire departments, faps, administrations. This is about optics.
In general, the program for connecting schools to the Internet has been operating since 2004. True, they gave only 128-256 kilobits, inter-office lines did not allow anymore, everywhere in the village there was a copper network IKM 15, IKM 30. And then, they managed to gnaw out timeslots and sent them to schools via shdsl. I still have this equipment lying around in my warehouse. Then we switched to adsl. This network has long lived.

[Virus-free crown]

Quote: ZAV69

Quote: Corona without virus

But !!! ... I heard yesterday PERSONALLY how Putin promised next year to connect our school to the Internet wassat You look ... as they say ... not even 3 years will pass ... and finally our school, in 100 km from Moscow, connect))) I would like to believe ...

Is it yours? in 2015-2016, the Rostelecom Center macro-branch had the EIKS program, schools, clubs, libraries, rural administrations were connected. Almost everything was connected. Last year, the SZO program began, they connected what remained unconnected: fire departments, faps, administrations. This is about optics.
In general, the program for connecting schools to the Internet has been operating since 2004. True, they gave only 128-256 kilobits, inter-office lines did not allow anymore, everywhere in the village there was a copper network IKM 15, IKM 30. And then, they managed to gnaw out timeslots and sent them to schools via shdsl. I still have this equipment lying around in my warehouse. Then we switched to adsl. This network has long lived.

Putin said yesterday - EVERYTHING !!! schools will be connected to high-speed internet in 2021

and ... I really hope that 10 mb / s is NOT a high-speed Internet))))))) well, at least 1 gigabit ... the funniest thing is that optical fiber passes under the school))) there is a sewer well on the school grounds - there periodically appear "specially trained people" to prevent equipment ... but that's what kind of garbage ... there is fiber ... a stone's throw ... but the state does not have money to connect the school to the Internet ...)))

[ZAV69]

Quote: Corona without virus

and ... I really hope that 10 mb / s is NOT a high-speed Internet))))))) well, at least 1 gigabit ... feel the most joke - the optical fiber passes under the school))) on the school grounds there is a sewer well - there periodically appear "specially trained people" for the prevention of equipment ... but that's what kind of garbage ... there is optical fiber ... close at hand ... and the state does not have money to connect the school to the Internet ...)) )

You have fiber optic in your school. It's just that the billing rate is limited. And there is no equipment in the well, maximum is a coupling.

[Virus-free crown]

Quote: ZAV69

Quote: Corona without virus

and ... I really hope that 10 mb / s is NOT a high-speed Internet))))))) well, at least 1 gigabit ... feel the most joke - the optical fiber passes under the school))) on the school grounds there is a sewer well - there periodically appear "specially trained people" for the prevention of equipment ... but that's what kind of garbage ... there is optical fiber ... close at hand ... and the state does not have money to connect the school to the Internet ...)) )

You have fiber optic in your school. It's just that the billing rate is limited. And there is no equipment in the well, maximum is a coupling.

No no no!!! There is no filament at school! Copper pair - we have a parent who personally dragged this cable in. FIG knows how many years ago In the well there is such a device, such as your coupling, to which you can connect once or twice)) and there are sensors to which "specially trained people" are connected with special devices to check the quality of the connection ... there is more than one fiber goes, and a whole bunch of fibers ... and when, where, if, when a failure occurs in the city - an emergency team leaves and checks on which section where what could happen))

[ZAV69]

Quote: Corona without virus

No no no!!! There is no filament at school!

Is there no fiber in a city school in the Moscow region? I won't believe in life !!! Do we, in Tulskaya, do you have one? And this is in the Moscow region where adsl in full on gpon change? I do not believe!!!! The EIKS program was in the entire central branch, they were building everywhere. Yes, and Megaphone also built something.
There are no sensors in the optical coupling and cannot be. There may only be a socket, the reflectometer is connected to it, if you need to measure, this is sometimes done, I have seen such a perversion only once, it is easier to measure from the node.

[Virus-free crown]

Quote: ZAV69

Quote: Corona without virus

No no no!!! There is no filament at school!

Is there no fiber in a city school in the Moscow region? I won't believe in life !!! Do we, in Tulskaya, do you have one? And this is in the Moscow region where adsl in full on gpon change? I do not believe!!!! The EIKS program was in the entire central branch, they were building everywhere. Yes, and Megaphone also built something.
There are no sensors in the optical coupling and cannot be. There may only be a socket, the reflectometer is connected to it, if you need to measure, this is sometimes done, I have seen such a perversion only once, it is easier to measure from the node.

Sometimes it seems to me that I live in REAL Russia, and many here already live in "Russia of the future" (c) Navalny
50 km from Moscow ... where I live right now - a village for 2000+ residents ... I'm connected and now I'm sitting on a regular copper pair for 100 mb the provider about the fiber optic in our village is optimistic that "as soon as possible" Nuuu ... maybe the great-grandchildren will wait)))))))))))))))))))))))))) and so the megaphone gives almost the same 100)) by air

[nobody75]

Your "normal" copper pair is on the fiber and out. There, the segment length is limited to 100 m.
It won't even reach Moscow.
Sincerely

[Virus-free crown]

Quote: nobody75

Your "normal" copper pair is on the fiber and out. There, the segment length is limited to 100 m.
It won't even reach Moscow.
Sincerely

My "usual" copper pair goes to the central tower in our village, from which it receives an Internet by air - if it is completely on the fingers))) well, we do not have optical fiber, no)))

[nobody75]

Do you have a radio relay? And how did you get the frequencies?
Sincerely

[Virus-free crown]

Quote: nobody75

Do you have a radio relay? And how did you get the frequencies?
Sincerely

I don’t know what we have, but a grid of such transmitters covers our entire area)) they have been standing for a long time, about 10+ years already) there used to be adsl

[nobody75]

And who is the provider? Does he have a license and SORM?
Sincerely

[ZAV69]

And without SORM, who will give them a license? Everything is written in the law on communications

[nobody75]

So they could muddle the house network, as in the early 2000s. I'm more interested - they have radio relays or wifi ...
With respect.

[Virus-free crown]

they have a network of wi-fi transmitters, they have a license, of course)) they covered the entire area with their wifi ... an alternative in our village is adsl from mgts and beeline, mts and megaphone ... oh yes ... there is also satellite communication ))) and that's it !!! and you are fiber, koloknoooo ... all over Russia ...

[ZAV69]

At MGTS, the fiber just reaches you. And the fact that while you have them on adsl work .... Now the process of transition from adsl to gpon has begun. In our district this year we have built 4 new networks of adsl, in the region in each district there are also dofiga, next year plans to build twice as much, so in the next year or two you will have a gpon.

[nobody75]

Excuse me, but what is your provider's network connected to? To fiber, of course ... So it reaches your village.
And those figures who covered the entire area with wifi ... Do you go to the Internet through your home router?
arp -a what shows?
Sincerely

[Virus-free crown]

Quote: nobody75

Excuse me, but what is your provider's network connected to? To fiber, of course ... So it reaches your village.
And those figures who covered the entire area with wifi ... Do you go to the Internet through your home router?
arp -a what shows?
Sincerely

My provider is of course physically connected to the fiber, I admit it
Only from the office of my provider to my village 25 km in a straight line - and on the way to me there is their network of wi-fi transmitters - physically, there is no optical fiber, in principle !!! as there is no physical fiber at MGTS, which distributes the Internet in our village by adsl !!! simply no!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ))))))) I checked everything 100500 times !!!!!!!! I would sit at 100 mb if I had fiber))))

for this I say goodbye to argue in this thread))) my Russia - only 50 km from Moscow - is very different from the rest of Russia, where "gardens bloom on Mars" you all have "small" - and here we have "empty cabbage soup")))))))

[nobody75]

alternative in our village - adsl from mgts

adsl is the last mile of telephone noodles. There is another network between the automatic telephone exchange. And in Sochi, all the buildings of the automatic telephone exchange for shops and hostels have long been allowed ...
Sincerely

[slipped]

Quote: nobody75

And in Sochi, all the buildings of the automatic telephone exchange for shops and hostels have long been allowed ...
Sincerely

And Beeline 100 Mbit / s fiber at the "Home Internet" tariff without TV costs 400 rubles a month. Pennies.

[Vadim237]

Be patient, 5G will appear in your village soon.

[ZAV69]

Quote: Vadim237

Be patient, 5G will appear in your village soon.

Firstly, the frequencies for 5G have not yet been fully divided, and secondly, it is necessary to build several times more base stations for it. So in the next 5 years, 5G will appear in Moscow, Novosibirsk, Nizhny and St. Petersburg, and even that is not a fact. Elsewhere it won't pay off

[svp67]

The Russian Soyuz-2.1b launch vehicle was launched from the Vostochny cosmodrome. As reported on the Roscosmos website, the rocket will launch 36 communication satellites of the British company OneWeb into orbit

Well, at least DECEMBER seems to have REMOVED.
And who in the know "OntWeb" seems to have ceased to exist, what has changed recently?

[Boris Chernikov]

there were legal dances with tambourines

[Tsoy]

And who in the know "OntWeb" seems to have ceased to exist, what has changed recently?

The owners have changed. Britain bought the assets. It is not yet clear with what prospects. Musk will soon have 1000 devices, these have not reached a hundred.

[donavi49]

Money was poured into it. But the cream train had already left. However, it is better to raise the second internet grid than to be 3-4. And 3-4 are already sawing their systems. With such thoughts, OneWeb poured one and a half lard of currency to revive the project and deploy 1 wave of devices.

[Tagan]

Quote: Crown without virus

Quote: nobody75

When will the domestic data transmission and geolocation network based on low-bitrate satellites - routers operating on the IP V6 protocol appear? How long will we work as cabbies?
Sincerely

As Putin said yesterday, God forbid, as they say, next year to connect all schools in our country to high-speed Internet ... Then, you look, and a century will not pass - and we will launch IP V6

... And the fact that for the disruption of the program of connecting all schools in the country to the Internet by 2020 (there was such a program at the state level) - he did not say ... he did not report to us yesterday, who was imprisoned and how much ... for theft )))

Mattresses with internet are no better. Well, we are no worse than the rest, if what.
And what about the schools? Didn't connect, like?

[megadeth]

It pleases, but this is routine, but the news is so news: - "TNT announced the closure of the reality show" Dom-2 ""

[Vadim237]

Looks like Putin saw and was in a hurry to find his "heroes"

[slipped]

The separation of 24 out of 36 satellites has been officially confirmed. "Fregat" continues its work.

Energomash today conducted the first full-size fire test of the world's most powerful liquid-propellant rocket engine, the RD-171MV. All parameters are normal.

The engine will be used on the latest Soyuz-5 launch vehicle.

[slipped]

In general, all 36 were brought out, well, and a photo of the launch of the Indian-British satellites:

And soon Russia will have another launch from Kuru.

[dgonni]

Fine! Just like the good old days.

[Perseverance]

as in the good old days now SpaecX they alone launched more than the Russian Federation

[slipped]

Quote: Perseverance

as in the good old days now SpaecX they alone launched more than the Russian Federation

Russia already has 16 successful launches this year, not 14 as in your picture.

This year, more than 10 launches in Russia were tied together with Arianspace, which closed its cosmodrome for six months and suspended work on a joint payload. All of these launches were postponed to 2021 and 2022.

[Perseverance]

Quote: slipped

Russia already has 16 successful launches this year, not 14 as in your picture.

Wow.
As many as 16 ... while SpaceX has 24.
Then you need to add 7 Rocket Labs to the USA, since the production and office are located in the USA.
This is what the Japanese brought.

Can you without demagogues и huge without plans the same cargo for last 20 years show.
Again huge without plans

[slipped]

Quote: Perseverance

Wow.
As many as 16 ... while SpaceX has 24.

Yes, fuck. They are in the process of deploying a grouping of the same type of Starlink vehicles.

As soon as the deployment of the Sphere grouping begins, and the preparation process for this is now underway, we will also have an increase in the number of launches.

Quote: Perseverance

Then you need to add 7 Rocket Lab to the USA, since the derivative and office are located in the USA.

Yes, no difference. Our cluster launches of small spacecraft and cubesats are carried out at Soyuz as a passing load.

Quote: Perseverance

This is what the Japanese brought.

And here is what the Russian astrophysical observatory Spektr-RG has recently transmitted by scanning the entire sky for the second time:

Among the sources recorded by the ART-XC telescope, several dozen previously unknown objects in the Galaxy and beyond were discovered, including supermassive black holes surrounded by a layer of cold gas and invisible in soft X-rays.

As expected, the total number of X-ray sources on the summary map has almost doubled, to about 1000.

[Perseverance]

Quote: Perseverance

You will be able, without demagogues and without plans, a bulk of the same load

poorly understood. I will try again
"You will be able, without demagogues and without plans, a huge the same cargo over the last 20 years to show.
Once again, without plans, a huge "

Quote: slipped

As soon as the deployment of the Sphere grouping begins, and the preparation process for this is now underway, we will also have an increase in the number of launches.

As always, there are a lot of plans
And here is what others make huge without plans

[slipped]

Quote: Perseverance

poorly understood. I will try again
"You will be able, without demagogues and without plans, a huge the same cargo over the last 20 years to show.

Immediate plans for the delivery of anything is the delivery of lunar soil in cryogenic form from the South Pole of the Moon by the Luna-28 station, as part of the Russian Lunar program, which is scheduled to launch in 2027.

Quote: Perseverance

And here is what others make huge without plans

And here is what Russia has done in a year "without plans of a huge". Successfully launched:

104 foreign commercial spacecraft communications OneWeb.

1 foreign commercial remote sensing satellite.

15 foreign small spacecraft as a passing load.

3 domestic medium-sized communication satellites on MTR and GSO.

2 domestic navigation satellite, including a new satellite of the new series "K".

6 domestic low-orbit communication satellites.
2 transport manned spacecraft.
2 transport and cargo spacecraft.
2 special military spacecraft, including the latest experimental spacecraft.
4 domestic small spacecraft as a passing load.

In addition, the second successful launch of the newest Russian heavy missile "Angara-A5"

And that's not all the launches.

[Perseverance]

Quote: slipped

Immediate plans for the delivery of anything is the delivery of lunar soil in cryogenic form from the South Pole of the Moon by the Luna-28 station, as part of the Russian Lunar program, which is scheduled to launch in 2027.

Still weak
There was such a simple request.
"" You can without demagogues and without plans a huge same cargo behind last 20 years show.
Once again, without plans, a huge "
Can you do it?

Quote: slipped

And here is what Russia has done in a year "without plans of a huge". Successfully launched:

only??? Regular launches and only 14 per year
This is what Mars-2020 Persevirens was launched to other planets
104 satellites are weak ... Spaecx over 800 satellites per year.

Just don’t talk about huge plans again.

Quote: slipped

3 domestic medium communication satellites in the MTR and GSO.

GSO
Payload - manufactured by Thales Alenia Space Italy

Quote: slipped

In addition, the second successful launch of the newest Russian heavy missile "Angara-A5"

second in 6 years and even though these are plans for a whopping 4 in the following year ? One SpaecX 24 Falcona launched in a year
Yes, it looks quite miserable

[slipped]

Quote: Perseverance

Still weak
There was such a simple request.

Yah. We did not have, except for AMS "Phobos-Grunt" programs for the delivery of anything in these 20 years. As you know, "FG" never entered the departure trajectory, due to a design error in the control system of the accelerating stage. Prior to this launch, the Mars-Express and Venera-Express interplanetary launches had successfully used the standard Fregat RB. The stations reached their planets and performed their planned exploration. By the way, in our new lunar ships, the program of which will start very soon, the usual "Frigate" is also used.

Quote: Perseverance

Can you do it?

Once again, we do not have delivery of anything until 2027. Everything will be investigated locally.

Quote: Perseverance

only??? Regular launches and only 14 per year

16 launches and there will be 17 more. You are blind, since you do not see new cosmic systems.

But the Americans see that they already started hysterical about the reproduction of our satellites in orbit by budding.

Quote: Perseverance

This is what Mars-2020 Persevirens was launched to other planets

And we have the DM "Kazachok" ready. As soon as ESA pulls up with its contribution, ExoMars-2022 will be launched.

Quote: Perseverance

104 satellites are weak ... Spaecx over 800 satellites per year.

So we are not the manufacturers of these devices. We launch them for money. If the customer did not deliver them to us for six months, what have we to do with it?

Quote: Perseverance

Payload - manufactured by Thales Alenia Space Italy

I haven't heard of international cooperation ...

Quote: Perseverance

second in 6 years

Creation of a new production of missiles. The next two in six months.

Quote: Perseverance

Yes, it looks quite miserable

Remove the pan. You can't see anything behind her. Probably another freelancer too.

[Perseverance]

Quote: slipped

We had no other than

Quote: slipped

Once again - we have no delivery

it was not difficult.
Maybe then you can call Roscosmos apartment который made in Russia in 20 years that flew to Saturn?
"" You will be able to show a huge amount over the last 20 years without demagogues and without plans.
Once again, without plans, a huge "
Just the name and when it was launched

Quote: slipped

And we have the DM "Kazachok" ready. As soon as ESA pulls up with its contribution -

and again there are a lot of plans What is physically impossible without this?

Quote: slipped

So we are not the manufacturers of these devices. We launch them for money. If the customer did not deliver them to us for six months, what have we to do with it?

Quote: slipped

I haven't heard of international cooperation ...

well, because we cannot produce our own in such quantities. So we have to buy from Thales Alenia Space Italy, and now they no longer have "domestic medium-sized GSO communications satellite"

Quote: slipped

Creation of a new production of missiles. The next two in six months.

2 ... yes, pathetic. two launches in six months.

[slipped]

Quote: Perseverance

[Maybe then you can name Roscosmos apartment который made in Russia in 20 years that flew to Saturn?

We do not have a device that should fly to Saturn.

We already have a TEM design model. Which in its flight version will take the spacecraft to the moons of Jupiter.

Quote: Perseverance

Quote: slipped

And we have the DM "Kazachok" ready. As soon as ESA pulls up with its contribution -

and again there are a lot of plans What is physically impossible without this?

A, clear. Are you sick.

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well, because we cannot produce our own in such quantities. So I have to buy from Thales Alenia Space Italy,

We can and do. But mutually beneficial cooperation has been established for a long time.

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and now they are no longer "domestic medium communications satellite GSO"

Is.

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2 ... yes, pathetic. two launches in six months.

Uti ways. The tests are underway.

[Perseverance]

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We do not have a device that should fly to Saturn.

Well then, maybe there is a device that flew Ceres?
""You will be able to show a huge amount over the past 20 years without demagogues and without plans.
Once again, without plans, a huge "
Just the name and when it was launched

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We already have a TEM design model. Which in its flight version will take the spacecraft to the moons of Jupiter.

again a lot of plans? without it at all?

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Ooty paths. The tests are underway.

During this time, Falpcon has already completed 100+ launches. poor at Angara with launches

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Is.

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""You will be able to show a huge amount over the past 20 years without demagogues and without plans.
Once again, without plans, a huge "

Can you show, for example, NOT OUR orbital interferometer with a very long baseline?

You can not? why so.

[Perseverance]

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Can you show, for example, NOT OUR orbital interferometer with a very long baseline?

There was HALCA.
With the help of HALCA, a virtual radio telescope with an aperture of 30 km was created.
But Roskosmos has looked very weak for 20 years.
Or maybe Roskosmos was able to fly to Titan and land a probe?
"" You will be able to show a huge amount over the last 20 years without demagogues and without plans.
Once again, without plans, a huge"
Simple name and when it was launched

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There was HALCA.
With the help of HALCA, a virtual radio telescope with an aperture of 30 km was created.

Looks so weak. Our base was 330 km.

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Or maybe Roskosmos was able to fly to Titan and land a probe?

Or maybe you will find NOT OUR map of ice distribution on the surface of the Moon?

No? What a pity.

[Perseverance]

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Or maybe you will find NOT OUR map of ice distribution on the surface of the Moon?

No? What a pity.

Telescope LEND on onboard LRO (NASA) and then cling to someone else's apparatus.
The device has a whole device NASA...

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Looks so weak. Our base was 330 km.

he was and albeit bad
And Roscosmos with Jupiter?
""You will be able to show the bulk of the last 20 years without demagogues and without plans.
Once again, without plans, a huge"
Just the name and when it was launched
And Roscosmos just no their AMCs Jupiter, Saturn.
Wretchedly, I somehow compare with NASA.

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Telescope LEND on onboard LRO (NASA) and then cling to someone else's apparatus.

So they work as cabbies of our unique, unparalleled in the world, neutron detector. Didn't you know that?

Now you know. Moreover, the Curiosity rover also worked as a cabby, even though it was using our fuel, and even now our unique MGNS device flies to Mercury in a cab.

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he was and albeit bad

Much worse, as much as 10 times. In short, g .. but.

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And Roscosmos with Jupiter?
And Roscosmos just no their AMCs Jupiter, Saturn.

There will be. Very soon, you will not have time to come to your senses.

But NASA currently does not have an astrophysical observatory that operates in two energy ranges. Well, they didn’t do it, so they smeared their mirrors on our telescope in order to have time to jump on the step of the departing carriage.

Somehow, with their tenfold larger budget, they do not pull. Everyone is sawing and sawing their Webb, now one thing, then the other gets in the way. Like a bad dancer. So much money thrown in, it's just terrible. But still nothing.

[Perseverance]

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So they work as cabbies of our unique, unparalleled in the world, neutron detector. Didn't you know this?

her, it is Rosxosmus who has the lowest request that NASA transmit data to them, since their apparatus and all communications are through NASA.
It looks very sorry to be proud of the devices on other people's devices.

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There will be. Very soon, you will not have time to come to your senses.

Again there are a lot of plans
But the real deeds, not the plans of the bulk

Weakly the same records about Roscosm from any moon of Saturn or Jupetra.
Or is Roskosmos so g ... but couldn't get there in 20 years?

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her, it is Rosxosmus who has the lowest asks that we give them data,

Well it's okay to lie to you

Data from our devices, which foreign cabbies carry to the planets, are automatically transferred from the DSN network to the IKI RAS, and in the case of the TGO, which is now flying in the Mars orbit, is received directly by our Far Space Communication network and is also sent to the IKI RAS for processing.

So many interesting discoveries have already been made. There are regular publications in well-known astronomical journals. For example, here: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-020-2979-0

Well, NASA pumped a bit of plutonium 238 for the rover with your nickname and mixed it with the previously purchased Russian (and all their last AMCs from America and China flew on Russian plutonium) began to talk with fervor that plutonium was already American. Naive, like children straight.

[Wolf]

The Franks were sent from the Vostochnya cosmodrome.

[Tests]

nobody75 (Ilya Dzhaugashtiev), Corona without a virus (Corona without a virus), dear ones, I apologize for getting into your dialogue. In Severodvinsk, my wife is a teacher in an ordinary school (not a gymnasium or a lyceum), more than 30 years of experience (all northern allowances have been earned a long time ago), 1,3 rates at most 42 rubles received for a month of work in ARPEL 000. In 2020, the average salary in the Arkhangelsk region was 2019 rubles per month, in 48, approximately 000-2020 rubles. according to Rosstat. The beloved Guarantor of the Constitution of the Russian Federation on November 50, 55, declared under the cameras of all television channels at the Congress on the Russian language that he had achieved that all teachers in Russia receive an average monthly salary at the rate of the subject of the federation. And he gave an example, as in Kuzbass they did not understand him, they say the teacher will receive almost like a miner, but he achieved it! According to the May 000 Decrees, our doctors should receive salaries at the rate of 04.11.2019 average salaries in the region ... My wife is in trouble with the Internet at school. At recess he manages to put 2012-2 marks through his phone. There is almost no Internet in their corpus. Gives home grades after 1:2. It is necessary to be in time before 21 o'clock, at 23 Dnevnik.ru turns off. It's good that in December, only one class at their school was quarantined for covid. In Arkhangelsk, not long ago, more than 23 classrooms in the city were in quarantine, i.e. there were schools where 50-3 classes were quarantined at the same time ... Although Severodvinsk in the Arkhangelsk Region has been the most advanced city in the field of material and technical support of the education system for more than 4 years, we are not a timber industry enterprise or a village on the right bank of the Northern Dvina. Helicopters are delivered to us directly to SEVMASH generals quickly and quickly, Mr. Krivoruchko a couple of days ago cheered all the managers of the plant and the Belomorsk naval base for "Kazan" and "Admiral Nakhimov" ... So believe our Constitutional Guarantor ...

[nobody75]

At your wife’s school, the administrator, sorry, scarlet ... I wrote above how to do it. The state network with its filtering should be left alone. A separate proxy server is installed (it can be assembled from any computer. Only two network cards are needed). It connects to the normal Internet, for example, through the whistle of Iota, Megaphone or whatever you have. Users and passwords are created on the proxy server. An opaque proxy server is registered on the teacher's computer in the browser settings. And that's all. And the wolves are fed and the sheep are safe. The whole country works like that ...
Sincerely

[nobody75]

Or even easier - insert a whistle into the teacher's computer ...
Sincerely

[ZAV69]

Quote: nobody75

At your wife's school, the administrator, sorry, alen ..

If he is there at all. I saw the admin only in one school, and in other places, one of the teachers or even a high school student administers. As a rule, they do not know the words of a proxy ... But the committee does not have its own administrator, a person comes under a contract to service all their equipment.

[nobody75]

So there is also a computer science teacher ... Can't he remove one "box" to thrust one (one on the motherboard) setevukha and roll debian with squid? If it's not him, but she ... then you can put the sme server there, there is a web muzzle ...
Sincerely

[nobody75]

a person comes under the contract to service all their equipment.

Does the printer come to twist the tails?
Sincerely

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Meanwhile, after today's successful launch of 36 spacecraft, the Rogozin satraps work has begun on preparations for the next launch from Vostochny, which is scheduled for the post-holiday month of February:

Testing of the next upper stage "Fregat"

And in Kourou, preparations began for the December launch

[Alien From]

If the BRIT satellite breaks in the near future, they will tell the newbie to be anointed during the start

[tolmachiev51]

How much hypocrisy is there in the Saxons !!!

[Kent0001]

That's all of them. Anytime and anywhere.

[Vitaly Pogrebnyak]

Let's further strengthen the Anglo-Saxons! (sarcasm)

[Kent0001]

Where's Musk and his missiles? Why are the Britons using the services of a non-democratic booster? Disorder.