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Former German Defense Minister: The main threat to NATO is Russia

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The North Atlantic Alliance is in crisis, tensions within NATO are growing due to differences, and Russia and China continue to play vigorously the role of adversaries. This was told by the former Minister of Defense and Internal Affairs of Germany, Thomas de Mezières, writes the Swiss edition of the SRF.


According to the former German Defense Minister, NATO needs a new strategic concept, within the framework of which the alliance will be reformed. The last concept was adopted 10 years ago, in it Russia is called a partner, but there is no mention of China at all.

The new strategic concept must take into account that China is now a world power with global leadership ambitions. And that NATO territory could be under threat, for example, due to intercontinental weapons... But at the same time, NATO needs a concept of communication with China and a closer strategic partnership with democracies in the region.

With regard to Russia, a double approach is proposed: containment and dialogue. Deterrence will take place in all areas, from traditional to nuclear, but at the same time, it is necessary to strengthen the NATO-Russia Council, thereby offering dialogue. Despite the fact that it is possible to talk to Moscow in some areas, Russia remains the main threat to NATO.

Former German Defense Minister: The main threat to NATO is Russia


(...) there is an opportunity for dialogue in the areas of arms control, new technologies, artificial intelligence or the use of outer space. At the same time, we in NATO must come to grips with hybrid threats posed by Russia, such as militarized formations or cyber attacks. Russia remains the main threat to NATO

- added de Mezières.
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  1. Victor_B
    Victor_B 18 December 2020 09: 58
    +3
    (In a barking voice)
    Drag nah osten !!!
    So what?
    Even the non-state will become a loyal ally.
    1. The black
      The black 18 December 2020 10: 00
      +6
      (In a barking voice)
      Drag nah osten !!!

      And then Hitler Kaput
      1. Tiksi-3
        Tiksi-3 18 December 2020 10: 03
        +5
        Quote: Black
        And then Hitler Kaput

        rather "Niht shissen !!"
      2. Victor_B
        Victor_B 18 December 2020 10: 03
        +4
        Quote: Black
        "Hitler kaput"

        This is already choral singing. Then...
        1. Vladimir Mashkov
          Vladimir Mashkov 19 December 2020 20: 45
          0
          What a new and fresh thought! laughing laughing laughing
    2. Civil
      Civil 18 December 2020 10: 03
      -13%
      There are only enemies around, we need to rally around United Russia and stop thinking only about ourselves and our families. In such a difficult period, when the elite hardly gets out to Europe to their families, we need to be in solidarity with them, in a united impulse to protect the Motherland from the encroachments of the damned West.
      1. Victor_B
        Victor_B 18 December 2020 10: 05
        +5
        Quote: Civil
        In such a difficult period, when the elite hardly gets out to Europe to their families, we need to be in solidarity with them, in a united impulse to protect the Motherland from the encroachments of the damned West.

        Do you think it was different in 1914?
        In general, all the monarchs were relatives there.
        That never stopped ...
        Look out the window - but capitalism is in the yard.
        1. Civil
          Civil 18 December 2020 10: 24
          -7
          Quote: Victor_B
          Do you think it was different in 1914?
          In general, all the monarchs were relatives there.
          That never stopped ...
          Look out the window - but capitalism is in the yard.

          And what were they fighting for? Did the tsar also pump oil and gas through pipes? Don't remind me of what ended? Was it a defeat? And because of internal problems, and not problems at the front, where all the rules were.
          1. Victor_B
            Victor_B 18 December 2020 10: 29
            +3
            Quote: Civil
            And what were they fighting for?

            From your belfry - no way ...
            But Russian officers from the WWII times will not agree with you!
            For you, democrats, the word Motherland is an empty phrase, but there are other people in Russia as well.
            In quantity.
            (The word you with a small letter is on purpose. It is not always plural)
            1. Civil
              Civil 18 December 2020 10: 58
              -4
              From your belfry - no way ...
              But Russian officers from the WWII times will not agree with you!
              For you, democrats, the word Motherland is an empty phrase, but there are other people in Russia as well.
              In quantity.
              (The word you with a small letter is on purpose. It is not always plural)


              Is it really in vain that the Workers 'and Peasants' Red Army drove out such as you white capitalists and their sixes to the West?
              Really ours, the Reds, will not return to the plundered cities and villages and help?
              Will the new Cheka of the people not press you against the wall for what you have done?
              1. Victor_B
                Victor_B 18 December 2020 11: 01
                0
                Quote: Civil
                Really in vain the Workers 'and Peasants' Red Army drove out white capitalists like you and their sixes to the West?
                Will our Reds not return to the plundered cities and villages and help?
                Will the new Cheka from the people not press you against the wall?

                And we will not press US, we will press YOU the capitalist ministers.
                The first number in the program is Chubais!
                Free hanging in the loop!
                The number is repeated for an encore! Repeatedly!
                1. Civil
                  Civil 18 December 2020 11: 03
                  -4
                  Quote: Victor_B
                  Quote: Civil
                  Really in vain the Workers 'and Peasants' Red Army drove out white capitalists like you and their sixes to the West?
                  Will our Reds not return to the plundered cities and villages and help?
                  Will the new Cheka from the people not press you against the wall?

                  And we will not press US, we will press YOU the capitalist ministers.
                  The first number in the program is Chubais!
                  Free hanging in the loop!
                  The number is repeated for an encore! Repeatedly!


                  You are Ukrainian jumpers at home, deal with your Gepa and Fuchs.
                  1. Victor_B
                    Victor_B 18 December 2020 11: 04
                    +1
                    Quote: Civil
                    You are Ukrainian jumpers at home, deal with your Gepa and Fuchs.

                    You, uncle, fell from an oak tree? (I ask the site administration to forgive me for the harshness ..)
                    What kind of jumper am I from 404?
                    I am from the glorious city of Vladivostok! And originally from Kemerovo.
                    1. Civil
                      Civil 18 December 2020 11: 06
                      -9
                      Quote: Victor_B
                      You, uncle, fell from an oak tree?
                      What kind of jumper am I from 404?


                      It is immediately evident that you are worried about the "white officers" and about your territory under the Russian Empire. Ring loudly Pan Kievsky.
                      1. Victor_B
                        Victor_B 18 December 2020 11: 08
                        +2
                        Quote: Civil
                        Quote: Victor_B
                        You, uncle, fell from an oak tree?
                        What kind of jumper am I from 404?


                        It is immediately evident that you are worried about the "white officers" and about your territory under the Russian Empire. Ring loudly Pan Kievsky.

                        I have a lot of necessary words, but "outside the bath" is dark and damp, so good bye son!
                    2. Moskovit
                      Moskovit 18 December 2020 11: 38
                      0
                      Yes, he sneers. Don't take the talker seriously
          2. Lord
            Lord 18 December 2020 10: 31
            0
            And what you need to paws up and not shout
      2. Oleg Monarchist
        Oleg Monarchist 18 December 2020 10: 28
        +3
        According to the hysteria of the former Minister of Defense of the Federal Republic of Germany, it is clear that they have only enemies around and with all their Pid ... Reich should rally around their beloved Bundesführer Merkel (15 years without change !!!) and in a single impulse to protect Vaterland from Russia's encroachments laughing
        1. evgen1221
          evgen1221 18 December 2020 10: 46
          +1
          Yes, no, it's just that the ex has some financial difficulties, and they pay more willingly for blathering towards us. So the man is doing things right.
    3. marchcat
      marchcat 18 December 2020 10: 05
      +7
      What kind of dialogue with NATO can there be if no one listens to Russia? We just need to strengthen our defenses, and let them at least burst with anger and hatred.
      1. Victor_B
        Victor_B 18 December 2020 10: 08
        +4
        Quote: marchcat
        We just need to strengthen our defenses

        At the same time, "do not be ashamed of your complexes", Poseidon and (as her CD with a vigorous motor?) Is a weapon of revenge. (Will reach goals in hours or even days)
        And revenge must be SCARY !!! And inevitable!
        Precisely with the total destruction of millions of Americans. Peaceful!
        They are definitely not going to spare our citizens.
        1. Jacket in stock
          Jacket in stock 18 December 2020 10: 16
          0
          Yes, they do not care about millions of peaceful Americans.
          It has always been and has not changed now.
          There are those who make decisions and there are cannon fodder.
          As long as there is a threat to the elite, there is no war.
          And all these blah-blah-blah are just a matter of cutting the budget.
          1. Victor_B
            Victor_B 18 December 2020 10: 20
            -1
            Quote: Jacket in stock
            Yes, they do not care about millions of peaceful Americans.
            As long as there is a threat to the elite, there is no war.
            Well, in any cannibalistic scenario, the total destruction of the economy and industry of their country is highly undesirable for them ...
        2. evgen1221
          evgen1221 18 December 2020 10: 47
          +1
          On this miracle of the torpedo and the reality of the application, there are some sensitive questions.
          1. Victor_B
            Victor_B 18 December 2020 10: 55
            -1
            Quote: evgen1221
            On this miracle of the torpedo and the reality of the application, there are some sensitive questions.

            She's not a "miracle" at all, like Petrel. Both detectable and destroyable ...
            They'll just get there when the entire control system is destroyed.
            There is simply no one to catch them.
            1. evgen1221
              evgen1221 18 December 2020 11: 37
              0
              In this torpedo I am strained by the carrier - if it is the most autonomous and it can walk itself and wait, etc., etc. That is what a large and noticeable submarine was made to move it (the boat will not come out imperceptibly, and even less so, because a big fool is easier to crash at the exit than a small apparatus). This is what worries me.
    4. Orange bigg
      Orange bigg 18 December 2020 10: 28
      0
      Quote: Victor_B
      (In a barking voice)
      Drag nah osten !!!
      So what?
      Even the non-state will become a loyal ally.

      I'd rather they just go Drag nah. Without Austen.
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  3. XXXIII
    XXXIII 18 December 2020 10: 00
    +2
    Strange news, like Germany is the initiator of cuts in money for the army and NATO. The main violator and debtor to NATO. The Germans from the Okraintsy are learning how to write off debts ?!))
  4. mig29mks
    mig29mks 18 December 2020 10: 02
    +3
    Why were the Germans given statehood after the VO? That they would get fat again and go to us. It was necessary to burn them in the furnace of history.
    1. apro
      apro 18 December 2020 10: 17
      0
      Quote: mig29mks
      Why were the Germans given statehood after the VO?

      Did you hear something about the GDR? And who took away its statehood ... and then loudly clapped his hands.
      1. mig29mks
        mig29mks 18 December 2020 20: 56
        0
        I heard. And about the hands is definitely not for me.
        1. apro
          apro 19 December 2020 01: 52
          0
          Why are you raising this question of German statehood?
          1. mig29mks
            mig29mks 19 December 2020 14: 31
            0
            I pick up what I want.
  5. 7,62x54
    7,62x54 18 December 2020 10: 05
    +4
    this De Mrazier has a new job on the horizon, so he is trying
  6. rocket757
    rocket757 18 December 2020 10: 08
    0
    Former German Defense Minister: The main threat to NATO is Russia

    Well, yes, this is the voice of their ancestors woke up \ speaks!
    Only the descendants do not listen to the end, the ancestors, TO THE END!
  7. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 18 December 2020 10: 12
    +3
    Deterrence will go in all areas - from traditional to nuclear
    By traditional, they mean, as I understand it, a buildup of troops near our borders, sanctions, etc. Only 75 years have passed, and German politicians and the military have completely lost their sense of self-preservation, tried to forget history and are again preparing to "confront" Russia (read to fight). Was it worth it in 1945 to be guided by the fact that allegedly "the German people are not to blame", to restore East Germany, and then let her reunite with the West? To blame and how. Today we hear that the Ukrainian people are not to blame, but politicians are to blame, which is also stupid.
  8. tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 18 December 2020 10: 16
    0
    According to the former German Defense Minister, NATO needs a new strategic concept, within the framework of which the alliance will be reformed.
    In general, again the Germans sang the song "Deutsche Zoldaten, sergeant is official ...", again pulls them "Drang nach Osten". Well, everything is clear with Russia, there New Year's "gifts" are written out periodically, then near Moscow, then near Stalingrad, and what they forgot in China, which somewhere across the floor of the Earth from this godforsaken Germany, maybe a stork will fly in and bite into Tohas ...
  9. Jacket in stock
    Jacket in stock 18 December 2020 10: 19
    +3
    Strange, usually their ex-ministers sharply grow wiser after resignation and begin to say sensible things.
    And this one is either really so crazy, or really there is a new position with old texts.
  10. Fantazer911
    Fantazer911 18 December 2020 10: 26
    0
    The biggest threat to NATO is Russia, since there are adequate people in Russia, and they prevent NATO from doing dirty deeds, which include stripping Europe, pumping out money for their needs, a summer residence, a yacht, a bunker, etc., therefore Russia, I lying around as a threat, business and not something personal, give me money and that's it, and you, as a second class, are only slaves, that's how I read between the lines!
    Send them all, but they do not read this and will not understand when!
  11. Lord
    Lord 18 December 2020 10: 29
    +1
    Genetic memory is still not an invention, it is !!!
  12. APASUS
    APASUS 18 December 2020 10: 31
    0
    Russia remains the main threat to NATO

    Of course, where is NATO and where is China! Even if the Chinese are more powerful, they have no direct contact with NATO. And NATO works poorly at the payday, here perhaps the distance plays a decisive role
  13. aszzz888
    aszzz888 18 December 2020 10: 32
    +1
    former Minister of Defense and Internal Affairs of the Federal Republic of Germany Thomas de Mezieres
    the unfinished nemchura completely lost my memory! angry
    1. apro
      apro 18 December 2020 10: 38
      -3
      Quote: aszzz888
      the unfinished nemchura completely lost my memory!

      What should she remember?
      1. aszzz888
        aszzz888 18 December 2020 10: 50
        +1

        apro (Oleg Frolov)
        Today, 10: 38

        0
        Quote: aszzz888
        the unfinished nemchura completely lost my memory!

        What should she remember?
        Campaign not only in nemchura lost memory! bully
        1. apro
          apro 18 December 2020 11: 08
          -3
          Quote: aszzz888
          Campaign not only in nemchura lost memory!

          The Soviets didn't lose anything, so what should they remember?
    2. RUSS
      RUSS 18 December 2020 10: 47
      0
      Quote: aszzz888
      the unfinished nemchura completely lost my memory!

      Well, there were times with varying success, we lost the First World War.
      1. Jacket in stock
        Jacket in stock 18 December 2020 13: 51
        +1
        Quote: RUSS
        we lost the first world war.

        But, like bum, the Germans did not win it either.
        They did not even have variable success.
  14. RUSS
    RUSS 18 December 2020 10: 46
    -2
    Why print statements from different exes?
  15. K-50
    K-50 18 December 2020 10: 46
    0
    Russia is a threat to everyone! fellow yes
    Because he will not allow himself to be robbed with impunity, he will instantly "in the snout". That is why you bark at Russia, because you want to get into the “vegetable garden”, but it’s stupid! yes
  16. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 18 December 2020 10: 53
    0
    An outspoken nazist. If you will, I will add to the section "Caution Russophobia".
  17. kig
    kig 18 December 2020 10: 58
    0
    NATO is a military-political alliance, that is, they are friends against someone. Well, Russia is simply the only rival by default. So the minister is speaking correctly.
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  19. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 18 December 2020 11: 13
    0
    Are your brains flowing?

    It is not enough for the old woman of Europe to use the sand of the slick, and so the water has flowed.

    Nndyaaa, rozbegaitsa norot.

    Straight kag bolts kakieta, honestly.

    In Poland, Maidan is already on the sly, we are waiting for the cada in front of the Bundestag oniZhedeti.

    Germansk Emirate and Chyuchyuts - Khokhlyandiya. laughing
  20. In..
    In.. 18 December 2020 11: 28
    -3
    He did not listen to Putin ... we are white and fluffy ...
  21. Ros 56
    Ros 56 18 December 2020 11: 47
    0
    Absolutely true, so do not fuss with different military hardware and you will be happy. Remember history sometimes and think about children and grandchildren.
  22. Gunther
    Gunther 18 December 2020 13: 49
    0
    nothing has changed since 1240 - "partners" with a stone in their bosom, especially in light of the murky law passed by the compradors:
    Federal Law No. 7-FZ of June 2007, 99 "On the Ratification of the Agreement between the States Parties to the North Atlantic Treaty and other States participating in the Partnership for Peace program" on the status of their Forces dated June 19, 1995 and the Additional Protocol to it "Adopted by the State Duma on May 23, 2007.
  23. zwlad
    zwlad 18 December 2020 14: 27
    0
    Russia remains the main threat to NATO

    What a threat to you from the Russian Federation, you are our sales market. But for the states of the Russian Federation, it is a threat, because it takes away the sales market.
  24. Bare
    Bare 18 December 2020 16: 43
    0
    Forgot Stalingrad! Russians every 50 years of any abomination has to show its angle.
  25. faiver
    faiver 18 December 2020 17: 14
    0
    The main threat to NATO is Russia
    - as for me, it's the opposite ...
  26. Freedim
    Freedim 18 December 2020 22: 46
    0
    Captain obvious .... We went to Paris .. twice .. We went to Berlin .. You can walk to Brussels .. through Warsaw there and back ... Psheki, of course, will be against it, but who asked them when. What else is there? .. London? .. no, we won't go to London .. what to do there on the nuclear ruins? .. There are no unsinkable aircraft carriers in the 21st century. And something tells me, the Americans will uncover their nuclear arsenals in such a situation .. The Warsaw Pact has been canceled and NATO is a fiction to shake off obsolete weapons to satellites. Everyone knows this very well .. Turkey, over there, has already felt the depth of NATO's mutual assistance to its women ...
  27. Vadim Ananyin
    Vadim Ananyin 19 December 2020 10: 31
    +1
    What is characteristic: not a single threat to Europe-NATO from Russia has been proven in substance or fact. Moreover, NATO itself, advancing towards the borders of Russia, does not consider this a violation and a threat. The glorious musketeer Stoltenberg was stupid in his claims.
  28. Victorio
    Victorio 19 December 2020 11: 38
    0
    well, yes, find the enemy, thereby remove differences, rally and increase costs.
  29. Egor53
    Egor53 19 December 2020 17: 15
    0
    NATO is a swan, cancer and pike. How not to reform it, but there can be no military force in this bloc by definition.
    Only the United States poses a threat to Germany.