The Ministry of Defense signed a contract for the supply of Il-78M-90A tanker aircraft

The first flight of the IL-78M-90A flight model 2018

The Ministry of Defense has signed a new contract for the supply of 10 promising Il-78M-90A tanker aircraft. The agreement was signed with the Ulyanovsk enterprise JSC Aviastar-SP. This was reported by the press service of the military department.

A new contract for 10 Il-78M-90A was signed during a visit to the Ulyanovsk Aviastar-SP, Deputy Defense Minister Alexei Krivoruchko. The deputy minister got acquainted with the assembly process of the Il-76MD-90A, which is being assembled for the first time using jig-free technology on a new production line, having controlled the production of military transport aircraft.

Deputy Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation Alexei Krivoruchko visited the Ulyanovsk aircraft manufacturing enterprise Aviastar-SP, where he solemnly signed a state contract for the manufacture and supply of 10 promising Il-78M-90A tanker aircraft for the needs of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation

- it is spoken in the message of military department.

The Il-78M-90A tanker aircraft was created on the basis of the Il-76MD-90A military transport aircraft. It has an increased flight range and can take more fuel for refueling aircraft than previous models.

The aircraft has three hose-cone refueling system devices - two on the wing consoles and one in the aft fuselage on the right side, which allows simultaneous refueling of two frontline aircraft aviation... From the tail unit, it is possible to refuel long-range and special aircraft. When using the IL-78M-90A on the ground, it is expected to simultaneously refuel four aircraft.

Comments

[zwlad]

Good news!
Give orders to the industry!

[donavi49]

She would cope with the already ordered. The contract for the transporters failed. And the release will not work out at least by any pace.

For example, in 2020 - 0 aircraft in 2020.
Raised 3 vehicles - 1 debt for 2018, and 2 for 2019. Transferred to the troops 1.

Under the contract:
Having made its first flight on December 6, this aircraft became seventh board built by Aviastar-SP JSC in Ulyanovsk under a contract with the Russian Ministry of Defense dated October 2012 for production of 39 units Il-76MD-90A for the amount of 139,42 billion rubles.
In just 8 years:
Thus, to date, the Aviastar-SP plant has built a total of 11 copies (including the prototype) of the Il-76MD-90A military transport aircraft and one prototype of the Il-78M-90A tanker aircraft.

As a result, the contract was renegotiated at a realistic pace and volume:
Under a new contract, the plant from 2021 will supply the customer with two aircraft per year until the end of 2027th. Thus, the new treaty deals with 14 ships.

[NDR-791]

As a result, the contract was renegotiated at a realistic pace and volume:
Old IL-78s were made in Tashkent. You can't get anything from there. And the real pace here is much better than nothing that was until recently.

[apro]

Quote: NDR-791

Old IL-78s were made in Tashkent. You can't get anything from there.

Yes, there is already nothing there ...

[zwlad]

There is almost nothing left of the plant. I had to restore everything.

[andrewkor]

In 2011, the entire territory was given to the railway, became a TMZ.
In 2018, 90% of the area was given to the Technopark. The entire groundwork on the 76th and 114th was dragged to the LIS and the factory boards too. Now they are standing in all the winds. There are plans to create a modern airport on the basis of the LIS, but silence. All the money for the construction of the aboveground underground.

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: donavi49

She would cope with the already ordered. The contract for the transporters failed. And the release will not work out at least by any pace.

If this is really the situation, then it is urgent to change the director of Aviastar. Otherwise, everything will continue like this.

[Alexey Sommer]

Quote: Krasnoyarsk

then it is urgent to change the director of Aviastar a. Otherwise, everything will continue like this.

To build airplanes nowadays is not to sharpen nuts on a lathe.
There cooperation mama don’t cry. And what should the director of aiastar do if imported electronics, for example, came under sanctions?

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: Alexey Sommer

To build airplanes nowadays is not to sharpen nuts on a lathe.
There cooperation mama don’t cry. And what should the director of aiastar do if imported electronics, for example, came under sanctions?

Do you want to object? Mind. But don't use an argument like "acceptable" as proof.

[Piramidon]

Quote: Krasnoyarsk

Do you want to object? Mind. But don't use an argument like "acceptable" as proof.

But you yourself immediately "remove the director" without knowing all the reasons why the construction of aircraft is delayed.

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: Piramidon

But you yourself immediately "remove the director" without knowing all the reasons why the construction of aircraft is delayed.

I shoot correctly. Because “as is the priest, such is the parish”, “as is the shepherd, such is the flock.
For what reason is the production modernization slow? Because of the director's fear of bothering his superiors once again? And if a director is afraid for his career, and not for production, then why does production need such a director?

[Olkhovsky]

Taxi drivers and other "knowledgeable" people always know better from the couch. Did you manage something yourself, were you the first person of the organization?

[Alexey Sommer]

Quote: Krasnoyarsk

Do you want to object? Mind.

What would you do better if you were the director of the plant?

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: Alexey Sommer

What would you do better if you were the director of the plant?

I would honestly admit that I cannot cope with my duties and would resign. In the hope that the new director will do better.

[pin_code]

the director will quit, and the top bosses, like men, will shoot themselves. Well, the boron TVTA or TK cannot have imported stuffing. otherwise, it smacks of betrayal ... it is a pity that the guilty, except for the scapegoats, are not punished these days, they only give another portfolio ...

[Zaurbek]

On IL, everything was initially unsanctioned. There are some organizational difficulties. The hard workers rowed ... somewhere there was a video on YouTube.

[bayard]

There, apparently, banal sabotage and theft of property through trusted contractors - those who have dealt with Aviastar say that they give victory in tenders only to their (trusted) ones who have the highest (literally cosmic) prices.
And they don't build airplanes.
Every year, they swear by my mother that the conveyor will start working next year. This year they promised to build 6 boards (and close on the detained sides - only 9 pieces) ... As a result, not a single one was built ... only three of the arrears for 2018 and 2019 were taken into the air. ... and here's new news ... the plant is not able to build more than 2 aircraft per year ... And the customer resigned himself to this ... or simply the budget was divided well, and the country and the army will manage without planes ..?
The director of Aviastar and the chief accountant were arrested several times / detained / intended to do so, but ... there was some kind of kind patron.
And then Solntseliky was recently surprised ... "something indecent is happening on TV screens ...", "ay-ay", for 20 years it was not noticed ... "did not look?" ...
His 70% of Russian citizens now belong to the "middle class" ... 1,5 minimum wages per capita - middle class.
What order in the country can we talk about when our head is in prostration ... and we once laughed at Brezhnev ... But he, although he was sick, was old, and he was still a hard worker ... and oh people cared.
And about the country.
And the planes were built - up to a third of the world's fleet.
And the rockets flew - in the younger years, up to 120 spacecraft landings per year were provided.
Therefore, new contracts are good, this is money, someone will definitely get them ... but ... it's just a shame. This is sheer sabotage and sabotage.

[keeper03]

Not enough specialists ?!

[Orkraider]

Welcome.
Will cope.
And there will not be two planes a year until 27 - there will be more, starting from 22.
The first slipway is already at the exit, the line starts working:

Essentially this comment:

For example, in 2020 - 0 aircraft in 2020.
Raised 3 vehicles - 1 debt for 2018, and 2 for 2019. Transferred to the troops 1

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Sorry, but it was announced that in 2020 the plant should transfer six Il-76MD-90A aircraft to the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation - such figures were announced in November 2019 by the then General Director of the Aviation Complex named after V. Ilyushin Yuri Grudinin. Three were issued, so your comment is not entirely correct about 0 ... debts arose earlier and the plant is forced to catch up.

Further, you should know that jig-free assembly does not allow producing more than 3 cars a year, simply based on those. process and available plant space. And only the slipways allow to increase both the number and the speed of the side release. But launching a line is impossible without a drawdown of the issue. By the way, the example of a superjet is very indicative with their rhythm of release from the production "conveyor" line.
Further, the appointment at the end of September 2020 as the head of the new PLC Vladislav Sidorenko is also indicative. He has good experience in Komsomolsk-on-Amur, where he organized the serial assembly of Superjets using jigless technology.

And the fact that the contract was revised is great, it means to the plant that will continue to produce planes rhythmically will not apply penalties for past sins ... and will not nullify all efforts to start production, killing the entire economy of the plant with a giant fine.
But when it reaches its design capacity, then contracts for additional volumes of cars.
By the way, this contract confirms the confidence of the MO in receiving this volume, and indirectly confirms my ideas above.

[evgen1221]

You give orders, but where, in the first place, do you give the reproduction of personnel for this? The line behind the fence is over.

[prior]

"contract for the supply of 10 advanced tanker aircraft Il-78M-90A"

And what is actually promising ?!
A much needed aircraft - yes, an upgraded tanker - yes.
But what does it have to do with prospects? He, that in the future he will take twice as much fuel on board?

[stalki]

Well, actually, we have already written about the prospects:

The aircraft is equipped with four new-generation PS-90A-76 engines with an increased bypass ratio and increased take-off thrust. They comply with the local noise level requirements determined by the requirements of Chapter 4 of Annex 16 of the ICAO standard, as well as the emission of harmful substances into the atmosphere. Their specific fuel consumption is 12-14% lower than that of the D-30KP engine installed on previous modifications of tanker aircraft. Therefore, the IL-78M-90A is distinguished by an increased flight range and can take more fuel for refueling aircraft.

The flight and navigation complex has been completely renewed, and a "glass cockpit" has been implemented on the aircraft, which allows to reduce the workload on the crew and increase flight safety.

The newest Il-78M-90A tanker retained the ability to use it as a military transport aircraft. The re-equipment does not require a large amount of work and is carried out in an airfield. If necessary, the aircraft can be equipped with fire extinguishing equipment.

In the future, the Il-78M-90A will become the main tanker, adapted for refueling in the air for long-range, front-line and special aviation. It is capable of simultaneously refueling two frontline aircraft (such as Su-27/30/34/35, MiG-29/35). From the tail unit, it is possible to refuel long-range and special aircraft. When using the IL-78M-90A on the ground, it is possible to simultaneously refuel up to four aircraft.

[Sun say]

Please, pay attention to the fact that jigless assembly will allow to increase production several times. Therefore, there was a shift in contracts to the right side due to the re-equipment of facilities

[Sergey Valov]

"Stapleless assembly", "production line" - this is all a play on words, by and large, everything is as it was 40 years ago, and remains. Read the comments to "The Hard Way to Serial Production": German Press about the Il-76MD-90A Aircraft "

[Orkraider]

Quote: Sergey Valov

"Stapleless assembly", "production line" - this is all a play on words, by and large, everything is as it was 40 years ago, and remains. Read the comments to "The Hard Way to Serial Production": German Press about the Il-76MD-90A Aircraft "

You are very wrong. Very much.

The automated assembly line is a conveyor of ten robotic stations for joining the fuselage, wing, tail sections and stations for assembling power plants and aircraft systems. It is equipped with a laser tracking system, which ensures high accuracy of docking of all aircraft elements.

On the old assembly line, the plane was assembled at three workplaces. The first is the fuselage docking, the second workstation is the airframe docking. At the same place, after docking, the installation of pipelines, an integrated air conditioning system, fuel and hydraulic systems, a cable network, system control units, etc. After that, the aircraft is moved to the third workplace, where the systems are tested and handed over. And due to the fact that the largest amount of work falls on the second stage - more time is spent and other processes stop.

The advantage of inline assembly is that volumes can be varied between stations. The main principle of the PLC is the cyclicity or cycle of the assembly. The manufacturing cycle must be the same at each station. The first car had a movement cycle of 28 working days, this is the amount of time that needs to be spent at each station. On the second - 26 days, on the third - 24 days.


Briefly about production:

It all starts with docking the fuselage (station PS.10). Then comes the installation of pipelines and systems at the station PS.20. Further, at PS.30, the cable network is being installed; in parallel, the keel is docked with the stabilizer at PS60.

Further, the aircraft is rearranged to the station PS.40, where the fuselage is docked with the detachable wing part (OCHK), which comes from workshop 271 of the assembly production, and the finished tail unit, rearranged from the station PS.60.

After that, the aircraft transfers to the so-called development stations - OS.10, OS.20 and OS.30. On the first two, the final installation of the remaining systems is underway after the wing docking. At OS.20, systems are being tested under current. The final stage is the OS.30 station, where general technical inspections take place.

[Sergey Valov]

Very interesting, thanks. A small note - the docking of the glider and the fuselage is the same thing. By docking the glider, you apparently meant the docking of the fuselage and the wing. According to the old method, indeed, the second stage is much longer than the first and third, but the problem is very easily solved by organizing several places of the second stage. And it is possible to install all systems, or part of them at the first stage, before the wing docking, as in a new process technology. In my opinion, with the small-scale production that is observed now, it would be easier to leave everything as before. Whether the new process is more profitable with an increase in annual output should be considered, the size of the assembly shop will also play an important role here.
What's really new is the use of lasers to dock individual compartments. Do not misunderstand me, I am not criticizing the new technical process, I am against the senseless play on words that has taken root in our country in recent years. And I saw such production lines back in the 70s - 80s, albeit when assembling fighters.

[Orkraider]

Welcome.

the docking of the glider and the fuselage is one and the same

The glider docking is the attachment of the OCHK and the tail unit to the fuselage.
Fuselage docking is the attachment of fuselage compartments to each other.

The advantage of PLC, in contrast to the old 2nd stage, is that the work is going on at the same time and does not interfere with a friend, requires less people and space, the work is divided into control sections.

In general, this is already an automated assembly line (PLC), similar to those used on Boeing and Airbus.

I am glad that we understood my friend.

[t-12]

On the second - 26 days, on the third - 24 days.

Those. loading limit - 15 aircraft per year?

[Orkraider]

Welcome.

So far, it is planned to reach the level of 12 boards, by the end of 24 years. And then, perhaps, to reach the load limit of 18 machines (if there is a need).
But first, you must learn to work with the PLC.

By the way, at the beginning, the superjet was also produced for 10 months. It took 4 years to switch to 15-per-month, XNUMX-day ticks.

[Paranoid50]

Quote: Sergey Valov

comments to "The hard way to serial production": German press about the Il-76MD-90A "

So this is where ALL the recognized experts in the field of aircraft construction gather.

[Vladimir_2U]

Great news, but correct me if the "hose-cone" does not require advanced training of the host pilots

[d4rkmesa]

Are you proposing to adopt the NATO "bar"?

[Vladimir_2U]

Analog colleague, analog! They write that the bar allows you to automate the process.

[Zaurbek]

Su57 refills, it seems, already

[Jacket in stock]

The Deputy Minister got acquainted with the assembly process of the Il-76MD-90A, which is being assembled for the first time using a stackless technology on a new production line

when this line was being prepared for several years and the plant did not assemble the aircraft, it was announced that it would significantly speed up the assembly of new aircraft.
Its launch was loudly announced last year.
As a result, we have 0 (zero !!!) aircraft per year.
What kind of line is this?

[Rubi0]

Interestingly, you think that the planes are transmitting, but supposedly this is a debt because it is zero, and in the past zero. As a result, for all the years zero, and there are planes)))) it was announced that production will be released on 12-18 planes only by 23, and not airborne and 100 per day as machines on the conveyor.

[Orkraider]

Greetings!

when this line was being prepared for several years and the plant did not assemble the aircraft, it was announced that it would significantly speed up the assembly of new aircraft.
Its launch was loudly announced last year.
As a result, we have 0 (zero !!!) aircraft per year.
What kind of line is this?

The line was not launched quickly, all the more I have to admit that there was a sanctions component there. But now everyone is on the home stretch!

Now the first aircraft Il-76MD-90A is being assembled at the PLC. Today he is at the station PS.30. Installation and testing of electrical wiring, installation of electrical equipment, flight-navigation and radio communication equipment are carried out here. In shop 271, a wing (OCHK) is at the completion stage. As soon as it is ready, the fuselage will be relocated to the station PS.40, where it will be docked with the OCHK and tail assembly.

At the end of December, the plant is expecting the arrival of the compartments of the next aircraft to the station PS.10. The work will be carried out simultaneously both at the PLC and at the slipway.

2022 will be indicative! Really pulled out.

[Jacket in stock]

Quote: Orkraider

But now everyone is on the home stretch!

Those. last year's line launch report - fake?

[Orkraider]

Not certainly in that way. Launching a line for commissioning does not mean launching production at full capacity.

I will say more, those sides that have been rolled out lately have delayed the installation and commissioning of the line. Thank God, the Ministry of Defense made the right decision when it gave the go-ahead for temporary delays in the release (not to receive two or three aircraft every year, but now, but having gotten a failure here, to have 8-12 aircraft later). And after revision 25 years and the maximum possible 18 boards.

Now the plan:

By 2024, we plan to assemble twelve aircraft per year, that is, one aircraft per month. For this, a calculation has already been drawn up and detailed cycle schedules for years. The next year will be important. This is a transitional period when many issues need to be resolved, especially those related to the development of assembly technology. By and large, the constructive and technological development of the product assembly will take place on the first three aircraft "

The first one is already on the PLC. Soon the second will rise.
It is not the start of the line that begins, but the debugging of production on it.

The year 22 will be indicative, as I wrote above.

[antivirus]

again, they are not building aircraft carriers.
a shame! or horror?
waiting for 8 bans

[Alexander_My]

2 facts, just know:
1. About 50 pieces were produced at TAPOiCH. IL-76 per year. The record was 1988, 73 IL 76 aircraft were produced !!!
2. Out of 11 examples built to date by the Aviastar-SP plant, 2 gliders were produced at TAPOiCh and delivered by a caravan of 14 road trains. In fact, 8 new gliders were built, namely 8 and this is not a mistake.

[Orkraider]

Welcome.

About 50 pcs were produced at TAPOiCH. IL-76 per year. The record was 1988, 73 IL 76 aircraft were produced !!!

Please confirm this fact.
According to my data, in 1988 65 aircrafts were produced, as in 87, further decline. I am ready to confirm my numbers by citing the source.
And you?

Statistics by year of issue:

[Nazar]

Orkraider - Colleague, you, as a specialist, could not explain how more than thirty years ago, without lasers and other bells and whistles, they produced 65 aircraft a year. and now they only dream about the release of 12-18 pieces. a year - "progress" on the face?

[Orkraider]

Greetings!


The aircraft building industry requires colossal material investments, time and human resources. There should be demand for finished products and constant orders. As soon as the rhythm of production goes away, so do competences. So TAPOiCH died.

I will not raise the question of why today there are 50 aircraft a year, and every year, and who will pay for it. I will not remind you of permanent orders, and I will not be releasing it, it is written above. And now we will simulate the situation - they released 50 aircraft, the next year another 50, the Ministry of Defense and government agencies received the necessary amount and they no longer need it, they cannot supply such a quantity abroad, of those who have money, perhaps only India needs and what to do?
Disperse people, stop production?
And about the volume of production 30 years ago: compare factories among themselves by area and number of stocks, and number of workers.
And everything will become clear.
Ulyanovsk could not produce more than three aircraft, until the PLS, and it was necessary either to build a giant like the Tashkent one, or to choose another path, in the form of modern assembly technology. Or the third way - to revive TAPOiCH - but this option is a dead end. Ukraine, with the support of their enterprises to the detriment of ours, is enough.

And in a short answer, in a few words:
Unfortunately, it is not the USSR now, and objectively there are no such opportunities. Alas.

[Nazar]

Orkraider - Colleague, it is clear that 50 tons of boards per year is superfluous, but there are financially secure orders - the Ministry of Defense needs transport workers, tankers, AWACS, - but there are no ready-made cars I am not a lawyer-economist, I am a construction engineer, and I can say with confidence , during the time that was spent on organizing the serial production of ILs and for the money that was poured into it, it was long ago possible to build a new plant and start production there from scratch. And specialists could be recruited - a full set, even in our city at the aircraft plant there are people who have moved from Tashkent and from Ukraine, so they moved from their warm lands to Siberia (Ulan-Ude), where winter is 8 months a year - and it is much easier to call specialists to Ulyanovsk or Voronezh.
That's where you are right - we are not the USSR.
Quote: "By 2024, we plan to assemble twelve aircraft a year," - well, yes. Well, yes - the classic version: "Either the emir, or the donkey, or Nasreddin" someone will die and there will be no one or no one to ask for the billions spent.

[Orkraider]

for the money that was poured into it, it was long ago possible to build a new plant and start production there from scratch

Really?
Be so kind as to give a breakdown of the costs that went into modernization existing plant for the PLC line and an estimate for the construction of a new plant.
And in terms of time, write, it will be very interesting to read.

Quote: "By 2024, we plan to assemble twelve aircraft a year," - well, yes. well, yes - the classic version: "Either the emir, or the donkey, or Nasreddin" someone dies and there will be no one or no one to ask for the billions spent

Wait and see.
The dogs bark - the caravan moves on. Russia is now a caravan, all those around us are dogs and wolves, waiting for weakness to gnaw at the fallen and tore apart. Colleague, this is not in any way, not about you, the saying, your skepticism is clear to me, but .. wait, a little left. We did a lot, those who were at the plant were shocked by what had been done.

My opinion is clear - the decision was made right. All modern aircraft factories operate on PLC... If we want to survive and withstand competition as a country, we must keep up with the times ...

[Nazar]

Orkraider - Colleague, to name the estimated cost of an industrial building, based on its area and cubic capacity - a matter of 5 minutes, as well as with the standard terms of its construction.
I have already written here, I will repeat - there is a commemorative plaque at the checkpoint of the Aviation Plant in our city - the date of the start of construction of the plant and the date of release of the first production aircraft ... between them there is ONE year! For a year, in the taiga, a plant with all the infrastructure was installed from scratch and the production of aircraft was established, and this despite the fact that they were building with a pick and a shovel, and all the mechanization was - a wheelbarrow and a supply with a horse.
And about the reconstruction of the plant and the use of PLC - yes, I am only "for", I do not like the transfer of all "accomplishments" to the 24th year, and the 76x series is promised for this very year. and the 114th in the series by the same time ... - Are they waiting for a "transfer"? It seems like the GDP will "go away", the conditional "Medvedev" will sit in this place - and nothing will have to be done, as Dvorkovich said - why do it ourselves? We will buy what you need - and you will not have to answer for the money spent ....

[Castro Ruiz]

This samolyot zhizneno vazhen dla DRLO A-100.

[Alex priest]

Russia, hallowed be thy name, let thy kingdom come!

[Nazar]

Alex Priest (Alex Priest) - do you mean "amen"?