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German press explained why "Putin likes that Biden considers Russia the biggest threat to the United States."

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German press explained why "Putin likes that Biden considers Russia the biggest threat to the United States."

The United States, led by Joe Biden, will increase pressure on Russia to defend human rights by increasing its presence in Europe, but for Putin, Biden's election is preferable to Trump's re-election. With mutual respect, Russia and the United States can solve many problems. Writes about this German edition ARD.


Russian President Vladimir Putin was one of the last to congratulate the newly elected head of the United States, Joe Biden. It might seem that for Putin, and therefore for Russia, Trump's re-election would be more beneficial, but this is not so. In Russia, Biden is considered "a much better solution" than Trump. Unlike his predecessor, Biden is not driven by spontaneous emotions. According to Andrei Kortunov, director of the Russian International Affairs Council, to whom the German edition refers, Russia and the United States will again have topics where cooperation is possible: Iran, climate, disarmament.

At the same time, Russia admits that "it will not be easier" with Biden, but relations will be more predictable.

The White House, for example, would harshly criticize Russia from a human rights perspective - Trump didn't really care. Perhaps they will again be actively involved in what is happening in Ukraine, Georgia, and also in Belarus. (...) the Kremlin knows what to count on

- leads the publication of the word expert.

Putin and Biden do not have personal sympathy for each other, writes ARD, during the election race, Biden called Russia "the biggest threat to America." As explained, Putin even liked it, since he wants to be on an equal footing with the United States. Between the lines of his congratulations to Biden, one could read: Russia and the United States could jointly contribute to the solution of many problems "with mutual respect."
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  1. cniza
    cniza 18 December 2020 08: 57
    +12
    Russia and the United States could jointly contribute to the solution of many problems "with mutual respect."


    We are for it, but the United States is not very ...
    1. nPuBaTuP
      nPuBaTuP 18 December 2020 09: 01
      +12
      Whatever Russia proposes, all the side for the mattress ... will always be against
      1. cniza
        cniza 18 December 2020 09: 03
        +7
        Well, yes, like that Baba Yaga, but times are changing, how to decide and get along ...
      2. Pike
        Pike 18 December 2020 10: 00
        +11
        Quote: nPuBaTuP
        Whatever Russia proposes, all the side for the mattress ... will always be against

        The results of the UN vote on a resolution condemning Nazism: Ukraine and the United States are against.
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        2. Jaromir
          Jaromir 21 December 2020 00: 26
          +9
          Quote: Pike
          The results of the UN vote on a resolution condemning Nazism: Ukraine and the United States are against

          The resolution recommends that countries take measures, "including in the legislative and educational fields, in accordance with their international human rights obligations, in order to prevent a re-examination of the outcome of World War II and the denial of crimes against humanity and war crimes committed during Second World War". And in Ukraine, under the current rulers, the OUN UPA and the SS "Galicia" are honored and praised. And the United States refuses to vote for the resolution solely because Russia was its initiator. These are the champions of democracy.
      3. 2 Level Advisor
        2 Level Advisor 18 December 2020 13: 46
        0
        Yes, they are satisfied with the situation today, why do they need a strong Russia? To conduct a dialogue, it is necessary, like the USSR, to have approximately at least parity in everything .. until we become comparable in strength and influence, it is useless to negotiate with them ..
    2. rocket757
      rocket757 18 December 2020 09: 04
      +14
      According to Andrei Kortunov, director of the Russian International Affairs Council, to whom the German edition refers, Russia and the United States will again have topics where cooperation is possible: Iran, climate, disarmament.

      The most serious thing for Trump, he REALLY wanted to make America great ... not in paper form, but in real deeds! It could become serious, dangerous ... so let the "can" continue to spread the American all over the world, because to the maximum it can turn out to be a very thin layer. Almost invisible and certainly not very durable.
      1. cniza
        cniza 18 December 2020 09: 06
        +5
        so sho let the "can" continue to spread American all over the world,


        Yes, and oddly enough, but it is beneficial to us, let them sulk ...
        1. rocket757
          rocket757 18 December 2020 09: 11
          +2
          Quote: cniza
          Yes, and oddly enough, but it is beneficial to us, let them sulk ...

          It is not beneficial for us alone ... although, flirting with China, straight "lubov-lubov", can introduce some confusion in our relations with China .... not desirable, everything has just begun to improve.
          1. cniza
            cniza 18 December 2020 09: 42
            +1
            China is very careful, you can't flirt with them too much ...
            1. rocket757
              rocket757 18 December 2020 10: 19
              +2
              Quote: cniza
              China is very careful, you can't flirt with them too much ...

              TO COOPERATE with anyone, it is always to keep the parity of POWER and INTERESOV!
              1. cniza
                cniza 18 December 2020 12: 03
                +1
                Our broad soul often does not take this into account, it is possible and necessary to work with China, but always be vigilant.
                1. rocket757
                  rocket757 18 December 2020 12: 21
                  +1
                  Quote: cniza
                  You can and should work with China, but

                  Unfortunately, this notorious BUT takes place.
                  1. cniza
                    cniza 18 December 2020 12: 34
                    +2
                    China will only solve its own problems and at any moment it can switch sides ...
        2. RUSS
          RUSS 18 December 2020 10: 48
          -4
          Quote: cniza
          so sho let the "can" continue to spread American all over the world,


          Yes, and oddly enough, but it is beneficial to us, let them sulk ...

          This is beneficial to us for whipping up an external threat.
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 18 December 2020 12: 28
            +1
            Quote: RUSS
            This is beneficial to us for whipping up an external threat.

            Well, capitalists have always and everywhere used such a "tool"!
            However, for others, the "tool" is essentially the same, it can be called differently.
            Those. those who hold power everywhere and always follow the same ancient principle "DIVIDE AND RULE" ... nothing new, it works as always, regardless of whether all the horror stories have some real underlying reason or not!
            Although, if you look at the international capitalist international, all the roles are distributed and played out by everyone as they should.
            Somehow I don't want to feel like a sucker, but ... that's the way it is with all of us.
    3. Kent0001
      Kent0001 18 December 2020 11: 52
      0
      They are actually totally against it. They do not tolerate competitors and will try to drown us to complete destruction as a nation. They have this idea of ​​"FIX" and do not have any illusions on this score, and under any president. They need to respond with their same methods.
    4. Alexey Polyutkin
      Alexey Polyutkin 19 December 2020 01: 54
      -2
      No. Can't you see? Amerikosy hammered that Russia is the aggressor, us that America, etc. The Turks will tell you that America and the United States are played in Syria and so on. And in fact, everyone concocts their affairs and tells their people that these other countries are bad and we are only for good)))
  2. evgen1221
    evgen1221 18 December 2020 08: 59
    -17%
    As long as I follow the rhetoric of our authorities after the election of the owner, so much is heard - the new baren will love us, because we blah blah blah and so all the elections are without exception. It's just that since the 90s the country has been going with the flow without any efforts to choose its course.
    1. lucul
      lucul 18 December 2020 09: 01
      +5
      It's just that all the time since the 90s the country has been going with the flow without any efforts to choose its course.

      It is a different matter how proudly the USSR went forward from 1985 to 1991
      1. Karabogazgol
        Karabogazgol 18 December 2020 20: 14
        0
        Sarcasm - and the Motherland Died
    2. Doccor18
      Doccor18 18 December 2020 09: 03
      -7
      Quote: evgen1221
      ... the new barn will love us, because we blah blah blah ... It's just that since 90 years the country has been drifting with the flow ...

      And the flow is there ... money, resources, noble children ...
    3. The leader of the Redskins
      The leader of the Redskins 18 December 2020 09: 03
      -12%
      Uh-huh. Especially after the last overseas elections, when champagne flowed like a river from the screens and "Trump pam pam ..." sang.
      Now what tune will they pick up?
      1. Yura
        Yura 18 December 2020 09: 52
        +5
        Now what tune will they pick up?
        Joe plays the banjo, tram pam pam, Biden Trump for himo, pam param, took it and threw it out the window, tara ram, Joe plays the banjo, tram pam pam, drinks sparkling wine, pam param.
      2. Odessa Greek
        Odessa Greek 18 December 2020 11: 11
        +1
        And now they look at Biden-Brezhny, on kneeling whites and raging blacks and want to sip champagne again and ask you (and those like you), this is this heap ... you have always pointed out as an example of a just, social state ?? Chur us laughing
      3. Siberian54
        Siberian54 18 December 2020 17: 12
        0
        In those elections, Trump's rival, with a Napoleon complex, was really undesirable for our country
    4. cniza
      cniza 18 December 2020 09: 04
      +11
      Quote: evgen1221
      It's just that all the time since the 90s the country has been going with the flow without any efforts to choose its course.


      Again everything is lost, we will all die - sooner or later, yes ...
      1. evgen1221
        evgen1221 18 December 2020 09: 31
        -8
        Chiza - Once again, everything is lost ... - Well, yes, it is lost, Today we are witnessing the agony of the chosen concept (take everything for yourself, and others will wait). Is it not obvious that regular manipulations with calculation methods, changes in tariff rates and an increase in the number of bans and fines , is there a reaction to the falling income of a handful of people who are accustomed to making a profit without straining at all? And with the worldview that the country is to serve their interests and not they are to increase the country's wealth? A flawed ideology is leading today to the expected ending. Defining this other than agony is difficult to call. Thoughts from the high tribunes are not sound, and the actions are all the more, or in style, everything by itself, the market will judge and blah blah blah, or to do this so that they feel good as before and despite the decrease in the food supply.
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    5. Fungus
      Fungus 18 December 2020 09: 09
      +16
      Respected. Chose your host. We have no owners, otherwise we would have given Crimea a long time ago, sawed hypersound, etc. as it was in the 90s. But Biden is your official master. He sits in your president's chair when he arrives and increases your tariffs by 100%) This is the bottom ...

      PS No need to mow like a Russian. You have long been figured out who you are.
      1. evgen1221
        evgen1221 18 December 2020 10: 53
        0
        Applause and bonnets in the state fool in a single impulse did it happen with us? Oh, what a sight it was, there are questions about who runs the country and through whom. Something I don’t remember that at the congress of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union this was after the arrival of supernumerary deputies from America.
    6. Odessa Greek
      Odessa Greek 18 December 2020 11: 06
      0
      Well, yes, better for you was Bukharik Borka, who danced kk parsley in Germany, or are you a fan of parsley "Ze" who is now dancing and begging for money? good You keep these masochistic wishes for yourself and since you like the big top
  3. CAT BAIYUN
    CAT BAIYUN 18 December 2020 09: 03
    +9
    I'm wondering when the Darkest One will think about monetizing his own image? Any question in the international field is primarily related to:
    1. How will Russia behave?
    2. What does Putin think about this? laughing
    And on the topic of the article - in principle, Russia does not care. Old Man Can? - Well. If Trump had stayed, the same would be good. And he and the other will not bring their country into its former shape. This is my personal opinion.
    1. Doccor18
      Doccor18 18 December 2020 09: 07
      -9
      Quote: CAT BAYUN
      ..And he and the other will not bring their country into its former shape.

      And ours too ... will not lead ...
  4. Ryaruav
    Ryaruav 18 December 2020 09: 03
    -9
    behind 10 screens it is not clear where, substituted a compass with a mustache
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 18 December 2020 09: 34
      -1
      Quote: Ryaruav
      behind 10 screens it is not clear where, substituted a compass with a mustache

      Looking across Russia.
  5. tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 18 December 2020 09: 09
    +5
    The United States, led by Joe Biden, will increase pressure on Russia to defend human rights by increasing its presence in Europe, and as the previous article said about democracy and "human rights" England gave the world the theory of racism, social Darwinism, was the first to create concentration camps, used the methods of terror and genocide to suppress any resistance of "subhumans". And how do the Anglo-Saxons of Britain differ from the Anglo-Saxons of the United States?
    1. Boris55
      Boris55 18 December 2020 09: 37
      +3
      Quote: tihonmarine
      And how do the Anglo-Saxons of Britain differ from the Anglo-Saxons of the United States?

      The Anglo-Saxons of the United States are the power component of the Anglo-Saxons in Britain.
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 18 December 2020 09: 42
        +4
        Quote: Boris55
        The Anglo-Saxons of the United States are the power component of the Anglo-Saxons in Britain.

        It means that they are not different, everything according to Darwin "Homo homini lupus est"
      2. voyaka uh
        voyaka uh 18 December 2020 22: 28
        +1
        Angles and Saxons - Germanic tribes that once conquered
        Britain. But, as shown by genetic studies, most
        people in England - Britons (Celts).
        But many real people moved to America in the 19th century.
        "Anglo-Saxons" (Germans). That is, the Anglo-Saxon country is the USA,
        not England. fellow
  6. APASUS
    APASUS 18 December 2020 09: 10
    +7
    Biden is more predictable for Moscow. Not himself, of course, but his administration, which runs the country. But there are also disadvantages, of course, this is practically the administration of "Obama's peacekeeper" who started 3 wars. I think Donbass and Syria will flare up soon, and it is very possible Karabakh
    1. rocket757
      rocket757 18 December 2020 09: 28
      +2
      Quote: APASUS
      Biden is more predictable for Moscow.

      Not one, not two, but a few more real experts in the field of international relations are talking about this.
      But there are also disadvantages of course

      So from there you should not expect any advantages at all and never.
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 18 December 2020 09: 47
        +2
        Quote: rocket757
        So from there you should not expect any advantages at all and never.

        It certainly won't be better. Well, when after 1917 it was better. The war continues.
        1. rocket757
          rocket757 18 December 2020 10: 25
          0
          About the attitude of the American public, people, to the first on the planet, the Land of Soviets, a lot and different things have been written ... but politics is made by a small group of very rich people !!! Therefore, one should not expect anything other than hatred.
          1. tihonmarine
            tihonmarine 18 December 2020 10: 47
            0
            Quote: rocket757
            About the attitude of the American public, people, to the first on the planet, the Land of Soviets, a lot and different things have been written ... but politics is made by a small group of very rich people !!! Therefore, one should not expect anything other than hatred.

            Until December 1945, J.V. Stalin refused to ratify the Breton Woods agreement, and the USSR and Stalin were friends, democrats and good guys. But after the refusal to ratify, the country became totalitarian, democracy evaporated, a continuous concentration camp was formed, and Stalin is a satrap born of a sadist, and of course an anti-Semite dictator. And all this continues, despite the fact that Eltsin surrendered everything to the West, but still Russia is considered a totalitarian country, without "Western democracy."
            1. APASUS
              APASUS 18 December 2020 10: 52
              0
              Quote: tihonmarine
              And all this continues, despite the fact that Eltsin surrendered everything to the West, but still Russia is considered a totalitarian country, without "Western democracy."

              Something I lived in this western Yeltsin's democracy - I really didn't like it!
              1. tihonmarine
                tihonmarine 18 December 2020 10: 59
                0
                Quote: APASUS
                Something I lived in this western Yeltsin's democracy - I really didn't like it!

                Western democracy is for the West, and Yeltsin's plutocracy is for Russia.
    2. Ren
      Ren 18 December 2020 09: 35
      +4
      Quote: APASUS
      Biden is more predictable for Moscow - not himself, of course, but his administration

      After he attracted the all-Russian favorite Jay Psaki to the administration, many Russians relied on Biden.
      It won't be boring with Psaki !!! wassat
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 18 December 2020 10: 21
        +1
        Quote: Ren
        It won't be boring with Psaki !!!

        But this, our people, assessed positively ...
    3. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 18 December 2020 09: 37
      +6
      Quote: APASUS
      Obama peacekeeper ", who started 3 wars.

      Trump did not start a single war, and did not receive "Nobel Prizes", Obama had three wars and a "Nobel Prize for Peace". A very interesting bonus.
    4. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 18 December 2020 10: 49
      0
      Quote: APASUS
      I think the Donbass and Syria will soon flare up, and it is very possible Karabakh

      ... and something else.
  7. Whirlwind
    Whirlwind 18 December 2020 09: 10
    0
    Human rights are of interest to the White House and the financial corporations that run this madhouse, only from the point of view of the threat to them - "people" from us - cattle. The livestock, which they have long conceived to reduce from eight to one billion, for which they arrange virus attacks as part of a hybrid war against Russia, in fact, the only country that got in the way of their cannibalistic plans.
    Look at the root, dear. It's about you and your children, and your country, without which you are zero.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLVdCYceWUc
    1. Mavrikiy
      Mavrikiy 18 December 2020 09: 33
      +4
      Quote: Whirlwind
      Права человека interested in the White House and financial corporations managing this madhouse,
      This is a fetish and nobody is interested in it, but with its help you can run into states that defend their independence. In the USA, in France and Germany, demonstrators are thrashed for a sweet soul, in Ukraine, on the Maidan, and you can shoot, but in Belarus - a violation IF.
      1. Whirlwind
        Whirlwind 18 December 2020 10: 29
        -2
        Well, don't tell me. In America, the Bill of Rights. We have the second chapter in the Constitution "On the Rights and Freedoms of Man and Citizen" and in general there are no obligations without rights, but without obligations of rights, but for some reason this is not in “our” Constitution ...
    2. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 18 December 2020 10: 52
      +1
      Quote: Whirlwind
      Human rights are of interest to the White House and financial corporations that run this madhouse

      That's just what they mean by "human rights". Although they have already put forward one postulate in their states "black lives are more important than white". Comrades are on the right path.
      1. Whirlwind
        Whirlwind 18 December 2020 12: 34
        -1
        They mean the right of vile forces to divide and rule, recognized in the world of demonocrats. Primitive zoology in the tinsel of bills and constitutions on human rights, which are preached by the beast to the crunch of the bones of herbivores.
  8. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 18 December 2020 09: 23
    +2
    Russia and the United States will again have topics where cooperation is possible: Iran, climate, disarmament.
    Great doubts about such optimism.
    1. rocket757
      rocket757 18 December 2020 09: 27
      0
      Quote: rotmistr60
      Great doubts about such optimism.

      Why not ... if the lover of pressing the restart buttons is again near power.
      another thing is that the relationship will actually deteriorate ... although, how much further? further just over the edge!
  9. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 18 December 2020 09: 24
    +2
    In Russia, Biden is considered "a much better solution" than Trump.
    belay Only liberals.
    Russia and the United States could jointly contribute to the solution of many problems "with mutual respect."
    fool The United States doesn't respect anyone. The wrong culture. request
  10. tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 18 December 2020 09: 28
    +2
    Russia and the United States will again have topics where cooperation is possible: Iran, climate, disarmament.
    The topic of disarmament has already been closed by Trump, Iran lives on its own and does not bother anyone. Climate ??? Yes, they have been mocking him for 100 years, and in five years they want to fix it. In general, there are no points of contact, and are they needed?
    1. Nyrobsky
      Nyrobsky 18 December 2020 09: 48
      +2
      Quote: tihonmarine
      Climate ??? Yes, he has been bullied for 100 years

      Biden is moved to "green energy" incl. It is quite expected that the mattresses will force the world community to develop alternative sources of energy to the detriment of coal, gas, atom, turbine and internal combustion engine, which will hit countries whose economies depend on hydrocarbon production, including the American oil industry itself. At the same time, those who can fill the world with solar panels and wind generators will be developed. Along the way, Biden & Co. has already bought factories that will produce them and there is an unbridled desire to make the whole world buy them.
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 18 December 2020 10: 02
        +1
        Quote: Nyrobsky
        Biden is moved to "green energy" incl. it is quite expected that mattresses will force the world community to develop alternative sources

        The capitalist and the "money bag" will not force any can to invest if there is no "navar" deposits. And the return on "green energy" is simply super small.
        1. Nyrobsky
          Nyrobsky 18 December 2020 10: 52
          +2
          Quote: tihonmarine
          Quote: Nyrobsky
          Biden is moved to "green energy" incl. it is quite expected that mattresses will force the world community to develop alternative sources

          The capitalist and the "money bag" will not force any can to invest if there is no "navar" deposits. And the return on "green energy" is simply super small.

          When the mattresses were stopped by the circumstance - is it "profitable or not profitable" to their wards what is imposed on them, if only what is profitable for the mattresses themselves is at the forefront? If the "client" resists, then they "persuade" him with sanctions, or put him in a horizontal position as the same Gaddafi, or Hussein hi
      2. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 18 December 2020 10: 57
        +1
        Quote: Nyrobsky
        Along the way, Biden & Co. has already bought factories that will produce them and there is an unbridled desire to make the whole world buy them.

        It didn't work out with Ukrainian shale gas, Biden & Son decided to go into "green energy".
  11. BAI
    BAI 18 December 2020 10: 57
    +1
    but for Putin, Biden's election is preferable to Trump's re-election.

    Perhaps the real US government will trust Biden more and give him more leeway. At least it will not disrupt the previously announced meetings.
    And Biden does not need to prove that he is not an agent of the Kremlin and come up with new nasty things for Russia.

    And if we ignore the lofty matters. How did this whole party go for 4 hours without a toilet? Especially the presenters.
  12. Oznob
    Oznob 18 December 2020 12: 03
    0
    That even kandalizarais, to the light bulb. My road in the yards was turned into asphalt in the summer. And before work, my 32 km was repaired, everything in mind. This is important. Well, from my six.
  13. Fitter65
    Fitter65 18 December 2020 12: 05
    0
    I don't even know where to put it, or you can't figure it out on purpose
    CAS has banned Vladimir Putin from attending World Championships and Olympics in the next 2 years
    Russian President Vladimir Putin will not be able to attend the World Championships and the Olympic Games in the next two years.

    Or, after all, we'll go to bed again, and mumble something incomprehensible to this decision
    On December 17, CAS decided to bar Russian athletes from participating in international competitions under the state flag until December 16, 2022. The Olympics and World Championships will be banned.
    Well, how interestingly our gentlemen will react to this from sports officials ...
  14. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 18 December 2020 12: 39
    0
    zoos, conduct an animal audit, a herd of baboons escaped from somewhere laughing
  15. Alexey Kurilov_4
    Alexey Kurilov_4 18 December 2020 14: 18
    -1
    what a surprise! And we thought that the Czech Republic is the biggest threat to the USA But Biden is smart and perspicacious beyond his years
  16. alex-sherbakov48
    alex-sherbakov48 18 December 2020 17: 29
    0
    In fact, we have always developed more pragmatic relations with the US Democrats than with the Republicans. But in this case, the horseradish radish is not sweeter. In some ways it will be easier, but in others it will be more difficult.
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  19. Jaromir
    Jaromir 21 December 2020 00: 27
    +10
    Russia and the United States could jointly contribute to the solution of many problems "with mutual respect."

    They could, but the United States doesn't respect anyone. The Americans imagined themselves to be "omnipotent" ...
  20. v.biseroff
    v.biseroff 22 December 2020 03: 44
    0
    Nothing has yet been determined and the stars have not converged, because every little thing matters. But the fact that a straightforward Trump was predictable and not dangerous for Russia for several reasons is already a fact for me. Sanctions, yes, of course, but the initiative in most cases came not from the president, too, fact. SP-2, of course, Trump resisted this as best he could and he managed to delay the completion of construction for a whole year - then Congress helped and the Ukrainians begged - in general, there is a Khokhlo peremoga! Of course, temporary, but we must give it its due, the fact is that there is a new contract with Gazprom and the payment of monetary compensation for present-day Ukraine in the amount of more than 2 billion dollars is a great help. But they could gnaw bamboo and cut a pipe already. There is a hope that the shit will be as mercantile Kyu as Trump, but she is still weak. In addition, Biden is connected with Ukraine not only by business ties and loot, but also by pleasant memories of sitting on the main steering chair of today's Ukraine! Well, just according to Mayakovsky, the twins are the Biden brothers and Ukraine. Wait for unhealthy activity from Kiev for sure! In space, there is no progress here - they built their trampoline and until they break it they will jump on it like children. Syria is completely lost in world news for a year and even the coronavirus does not take it - they live for themselves, restoring the country on the sly - I'm not sure that this will suit Biden. (pah-pah-pah) The price forces in the United States have gained momentum such that they can no longer be hidden, but so far they are not sufficient for a revolutionary situation. and the country - we are waiting (there is no Lenin on them), The question is, who will Trump retrain in January in Othello or Iago or Desdemona? In general, we'll wait and see, and yet, Biden is a dark horse, for me, while his environment is also.