"Brave New World"

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The old world - the capitalist one - is dying before our eyes. His agony will be terrible. But the new world that will replace it will be even worse and tougher than the world of capitalism during its crises (world wars). In fact, we are talking about neo-feudalism, the neo-medieval and new Dark Ages.

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The fact is that the rapid development of human civilization in the XNUMXth century gave rise to an irreconcilable contradiction: the management system (subsystem) was unable to cope with such a too complex and dynamically developing object (human civilization). This forced the ruling elite of the Western world, like the Soviet Union, to follow the path of simplification, degradation of an overly complex system.



There was an exit in 1960-1970. This is a breakthrough into the future, space expansion, the victory of socialism and, in the long term, communism on the planet (How the Soviet Union missed the opportunity for a great new breakthrough). But the elites, both Western and Soviet, turned out to be psychologically unprepared for the world of the “beautiful distant”.

They preferred to simplify the system. Under the guise of beautiful slogans about the market, freedom and democracy, the complex model of Soviet civilization was primitivized. Up to the comprador-oligarchic, peripheral-raw material, colonial model of capitalism. Almost the whole world followed the USSR and the social bloc (with the exception of China).

Amid beautiful talk about a new technological revolution, the global elite signed their own managerial insolvency. And she took a simple path - vulgarization, degradation, involution of humanity.

The current "pandemic" is one of the tools for this simplification of the world. In particular, someone must pay for all wars. The Great Depression 2.0, which is already considered more powerful and dangerous than the first one in the late 1920s and 1930s, is leading to the elimination of the world's middle class.

The middle class flourished in the framework of the existence of two systems, the presence of the USSR. The masters of the West had to create and maintain a beautiful "signboard of capitalism", the basis of which was this class. To prevent the poor from simply demolishing the power of capital, a stratum (middle class) was needed as a visible opportunity to achieve prosperity through hard work and their talents.

After the collapse of the USSR, the middle class was no longer needed. Everything began to return to the traditional model of Western slavery: masters - slaves / servants / serfs. The current global crisis will hit the middle class. Various speeches (including against the brutal prohibitive policy in the fight against the "virus") in France, Germany, Poland, Bulgaria, USA, etc., all this is the agony of the middle class.

The former highest value of Western democracy, the middle class, is to be liquidated. Like other achievements of democracy - the rights and freedoms of citizens. First, they were abolished under the slogans of fighting "international terrorism" (which the Western intelligence services themselves nurtured). Now the new toy is "pandemic". Next in line are nation states, which are simply not needed in the era of neo-feudalism. Their place will be taken by huge corporations, TNCs and TNBs.

The middle class and the strata that tried to break out “into the people” are rapidly becoming poorer all over the world and will continue to go poor. The rich get richer.

In particular, while Russian pensioners are counting pennies for bread and milk, and in housing and communal services, oligarchs are buying new yachts comparable in cost to first-class warships. Society is turning into a huge sea of ​​the poor, of varying degrees (from the homeless and the poor to the public sector employees who are completely dependent on handouts from the state), and a meager number of the very rich and super-rich.

The control system is being transformed accordingly. There is no more sense in playing democracy. Economic patterns of consumption are also changing. The old consumer society will be destroyed. Access to benefits and resources will depend on belonging to a particular social caste.

The problem of the ecological catastrophe caused by the unrestrained consumption of people turned into consumers will be solved together with the "excess", "excess" population. Obviously, these "rebuilders" will try to cut off the majority of humanity (primarily the elderly) from the future.

We are witnessing how this is done right now: the collapse of the health care system, various lockdowns, quarantines, unbearable living conditions, unemployment, hunger, unsuitable food, stress leading to alcoholism, drug addiction and suicide.

Abandoning development and betting on simplification


It is clear that the old world will not go away so easily. Dying capitalism will try to take with it a significant part of humanity. The process will be long and painful. Obviously, it will take more than one decade. Therefore, the hopes of ordinary people that only the "damned 2020" is so bad are in vain. It will be even more fun further.

It is necessary to understand that the current process on the planet has deep roots in stories... The point is in the last phase of the crisis of capitalism. The previous stages of the crisis of capitalism became the root causes of the First and Second World Wars.

In the 1950-1960s, the masters of the West saw that the rapid scientific, technical and industrial development of mankind was leading to the historical defeat of the Western world. The Western elite will lose their status.

Scientists, designers and other creators will push bankers and speculative financiers to the sidelines. Therefore, from the turn of 1960-1970, scientific and technological progress began to slow down. Hence the curtailment of the programs for the exploration of the Moon and Mars.

At the same time, a new ideology of fascism and social Darwinism was born - the ecologism of the Western elites, which has now grown to "green madness". When the “greens” are ready to destroy the foundations of industry and agriculture (which will endanger the lives of hundreds of millions of people), but “save” the planet. People came to be seen as a "virus" that kills the biosphere.

Moscow in the 1960s supported this trend. The Soviet elite was frightened by the thrust into the future that Stalinist Russia was aiming at. Hence the de-Stalinization, the course towards cooperation with the West and subsequent integration into the world system. Moscow refuses to fight for the victory of socialism on the planet. The stake is on convergence - the convergence of two systems. In fact, the West will end up simply devouring the "Soviet cat Leopold," who refused to catch mice.

That is, the Stalinist model (mobilization and relying on advanced technologies, a breakthrough into the future, a society of knowledge, service and creation) is being replaced by a stagnant-degradative model (cooperation with the West, integration into the world market, development of a consumer society). The result is the collapse of Soviet civilization, the total robbery of Russian wealth, which continues to this day. Extinction of the Russian people and other indigenous peoples of the domestic ecosystem. Because they did not fit into the "market".

Thus, at the turn of the 1960s – 1970s, degradation and simplification of humanity began. The destruction of traditional forms and institutions begins - the national state, civil society, science and education, the family, etc.

Both Soviet and late capitalist societies were more complex than existing management systems. Previously, control systems were more polysyllabic than an object (society). This allowed the elite to maintain power, position and property. The upper classes have always had organizational, cultural, educational and scientific and technical superiority over the lower classes - from the priests of Ancient Egypt to the nobles during the period of classical feudalism.

In the XNUMXth century, the situation has changed. The industrial, scientific, technological and educational revolution has made engineers, highly skilled workers and teachers equal to the traditional elite. At the same time, constant progress constantly raised the socio-educational level of society.

This has become a threat to the global elite. And she deliberately went to the degradation of society. For a stupid person to be able to control the crowd, the controlled bottom must be much dumber. At the same time, the leaders themselves have also undergone transformation. Compare the level of managers in the 1920s – 1940s (Stalin, Hitler, Roosevelt) and the 1990–2000s (Gorbachev, Yeltsin, Clinton, Macron, Johnson, Biden, etc.).

Therefore, the West carried out a revolution of "sex-rock-drugs", followed the path of dismantling the education system in order to get consumers-slaves at the exit. Normal classical education was left only for elite schools and universities. After the collapse of the USSR, we did the same.

In perspective, it turns out, as in the novel Brave New World by O. Huxley. And even cooler.

Caste society (lords and slaves). Advanced technology is available only to members of the highest caste. Conscious intellectual and physical simplification, "zombification" of the lower castes. Elimination of science, normal education, morality and family. Substitutes: promiscuous sex life, freedom of pornography, drugs, alcoholism, gambling addiction, mass entertainment / distraction industry, decadent music and pop culture, hedonism and consumerism.

And, of course, the total immersion of everyone in a surrogate substitute for natural social communication (social networks, instant messengers, etc.) specially created for crowds is a global distance.

A kind of our new wondrous virtual world.

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  1. +9
    21 December 2020 15: 04
    Actress Ellen Page star of Inception declared herself trans and asked to be named Elliot in the masculine form.
    1. +18
      21 December 2020 15: 12
      A kind of our new wondrous virtual world.
      It is not for nothing that the author brought a shot from "Blade Runner .... I liked the definition of our colleague from VO: DUE!
      1. +4
        21 December 2020 15: 20
        A kind of our new wondrous virtual world.

        This noisy world is something familiar to me
        I used to be in it in a different guise,
        And I looked at him from the other side
        Cold moon.

        Looking forward looking back was -
        I turned my eyes inside out.

        And in a vicious circle is inevitable
        A new look finds the same as before -
        The constancy of transformations without return -
        A property of the world, or perhaps a property of a gaze? (from)
        1. +3
          21 December 2020 21: 27
          "... by the goddess Frigida we will be punished,
          only because
          we are part of our life
          walked along the road of warmth,
          but with the cold eyes and lips we will leave
          to a country where all faces are always motionless,
          to a serene country
          The day before yesterday"
          Ilya Kormiltsev.
      2. +5
        21 December 2020 15: 41
        The appearance of Greta Thunberg in the public arena somewhat confirms Samsonov's conclusions.
        After all, someone brought and directed this girl with her ideas and hatred of others.

        It looks more like a whole special operation ... I would like to know exactly who is behind her back. what
        1. +3
          21 December 2020 16: 50
          Quote: Lech from Android.
          The appearance of Greta Thunberg in the public arena somewhat confirms Samsonov's conclusions.
          After all, someone brought and directed this girl with her ideas and hatred of others.

          It looks more like a whole special operation ... I would like to know exactly who is behind her back. what


          I got this on the net:



          Everything would be fine, but this is a drawing by the illustrator Norman Rockwell, who in the 30-60s of the XX century created many illustrations for books and magazines in the USA ...
        2. +3
          21 December 2020 22: 50
          The following photo was taken in 1898, Canada, during the gold rush, on the Klondike River.

        3. 0
          21 December 2020 23: 46
          Kurginyan described the world in this way 15 years ago ..........................................
          1. 0
            23 December 2020 11: 54
            Unfortunately I don’t remember the authors, but all this was described with approximately the same conclusions back in the 90s in the Prokhanov newspaper "Day", which was banned in 93, and unfortunately everything comes true with frightening accuracy.
            1. 0
              23 December 2020 12: 27
              Kurginyan described the world in this way 15 years ago .......................

              -in "Tomorrow".
              - apparently the same philosophical and worldview approaches to the development of the World and the Western world (including the Western and Western thinkers) and they have not changed for centuries - "You cannot wash a black dog to white"
    2. +10
      21 December 2020 15: 12
      Here, in a nutshell, what "they" "hope" for (plans for rebuilding the world):
      https://webkamerton.ru/2020/12/celi-pandemii-provozglasheny?utm_source=politobzor.net
      First, the COVID-19 pandemic is a "unique window of opportunity." It is through this window that humanity must be introduced into the future. No return to the past! “Many people ask: when will we return to normal life? The short answer is never. Our story will be divided into two parts: before the coronavirus and after. "

      Secondly, the "bright future" is a world where the differences between rich and poor countries will be erased, and over time state borders will be destroyed. A single planetary state with a single government will emerge: "The question of the World Government is at the center of all issues." Further Schwab writes: “With the introduction of lockdown, our attachment to loved ones increases, we value more those whom we love - family members and friends. But the downside here is that it causes a rise in patriotic and national feelings along with dark religious beliefs and ethnic preferences. And this toxic mixture brings out the worst in us ... ”Schwab makes it clear that“ dark religious beliefs and ethnic preferences ”will be declared war.

      Third, the economy of the "brave new world" must be centrally managed by giant monopolies. Private property will wither away, its place will be taken by the "economy of use", "the economy of participation" (while Schwab and others carefully avoid the concept of "socialism"). There will be no cash, digital currencies will be introduced everywhere.

      Fourthly, there will be a transition to "green" energy, it will replace hydrocarbon energy. Limits will be imposed on the consumption of water, electricity, some "environmentally hazardous" types of products (for example, meat) or industrial products (for example, cars). And the most radical means of reducing the burden on the natural environment will be to reduce demographic growth or even to reduce the population: "The greater the demographic growth ... the higher the risk of new pandemics."

      Fifth, robotization will be completed in all spheres of the economy and public life. The book "The Great Perestroika" says many times about the sharp job cuts: "Until 2035, up to 86% of jobs in restaurants, 75% of jobs in trade and 59% in the entertainment industries can be automated." "Up to 75% of restaurants can go broke due to lockdowns and subsequent social distancing measures." "No industry, no business will remain unaffected." It is proposed to introduce an unconditional basic income (UBI) for people who will be replaced by robots, but only if the person confirms that he is vaccinated.

      Sixth, digitalization of all spheres of the economy and society will continue. An effective system for monitoring the behavior and movement of people will be created, including using face recognition technologies. Quote: "To end the pandemic, a worldwide digital surveillance network must be created."

      Seventh, the new health care model will provide for regular testing, compulsory vaccination, issuance of a sanitary passport, and the establishment of restrictions and punishments for persons who evade the rules of medical discipline.

      Eighth, in the spirit of transhumanism, a person will be "improved".
      1. +16
        21 December 2020 15: 34
        Had to have time to finish building the house, but get your own farm .. only it will allow you to survive in the upcoming "apocalypse"
        1. +13
          21 December 2020 16: 26
          Previously, to each family in the barn, or closet. there were two or three bags of potatoes, a bag of onions, a keg of sauerkraut. salted mushrooms. cucumbers. compotes, jams, salads .. In the case of H, you could live half a year! And now boil it twice and eat.
          1. +9
            21 December 2020 16: 28
            Quote: 30 vis
            Previously, to each family in the barn, or closet. there were two or three bags of potatoes, a bag of onions, a keg of sauerkraut. salted mushrooms. cucumbers. compotes, jams, salads ..

            About that and speech .. God forbid, there will be supply interruptions .. it will not seem a little, and it will not seem enough for the city, who does not have reserves .. So you need to equip your own farm .. I have been going towards this goal for 10 years .. but every year harder given ..
            1. +6
              21 December 2020 16: 50
              I've been going towards this goal for 10 years .. but every year it gets harder and harder ..

              Fasten yourself and finish building. hi
              With a garden, you can survive even if you lose your job. I know this for sure.
              1. +10
                21 December 2020 20: 21
                Season is possible. So? All purchased seeds are factory-purchased. The offspring are not viable. Verified.
                1. +3
                  21 December 2020 20: 59
                  Quote: garri-lin
                  Season is possible. So? All purchased seeds are factory-purchased. The offspring are not viable. Verified.

                  Oh ... you shouldn't have started this conversation ...
                  Here you can arrange such a controversy, but it will not treat the army and military units in any way. smile
                  Almost all major crops can be grown by yourself, without imported seeds. True, this is a troublesome business, it requires a fair amount of health and patience. But the costs are minimal.
                  What a garden, what a car - the more attention you pay, the more pleasant the result ...
                  1. +9
                    21 December 2020 21: 51
                    Where to get the original "pure" non-selective seeds? The breeders will develop "hybrid vigor" in a season or two. But where do you get new seeds from? Even the Kuban potato sometimes does not grow. Tomatoes and peppers definitely do not produce crops. By the way, the controversy is directly related to VO. It will be almost impossible to feed from the "land" in the event of a big war.
                    1. 0
                      21 December 2020 23: 08
                      Quote: garri-lin
                      But where do you get new seeds from? Even the Kuban potato sometimes does not grow. Tomatoes and peppers definitely do not produce crops. By the way, the controversy is directly related to VO. It will be almost impossible to feed from the "land" in the event of a big war.

                      Old varieties are fading away .. It's a shame ... Low-growing drought-resistant Crimean wheat! From flowers to tomatoes. But! People who love delicious food are held in high esteem. Not genetically modified hybrids, but Real salad pink tomato! Kursk potatoes, domestic varieties of peaches. Smell, taste, everything else! Whoever has these varieties, they cherish and cherish!
                      1. +2
                        22 December 2020 01: 07
                        Few have pure seed crops. They simply won't be enough for sowing. Paradoxically, this is true. With fertile land under your feet, it is impossible to get a harvest. The only edible weed to cultivate. Like a quinoa.
                    2. +1
                      22 December 2020 07: 12
                      Quote: garri-lin
                      Even the Kuban potato sometimes does not grow. Tomatoes and peppers definitely do not produce crops

                      For about 15 years I get by with my seeds. Potatoes, tomato, peppers, carrots, onions. Cucumbers have degenerated, you have to buy them.
                      1. +1
                        22 December 2020 07: 50
                        I'm surprised about tomatoes. Culture is rapidly degenerating. Mother has lost excellent varieties. It's just that every year the germination rate decreased and decreased. I assume that from pollination from other varieties. A neighbor planted small potatoes from the market last season. It seems from the Kuban. The harvest was normal. But the potatoes turned green. Previously, this happened in the light. And he kept it in his barn. In the dark.
                      2. 0
                        22 December 2020 08: 38
                        By the way, with tomatoes there are no special problems with yield.
                        I assume that from pollination from other varieties.

                        I change seedlings with a relative at 2-3 years old, but the varieties are the same.
                        Much still depends on the soil. I try to change in greenhouses every 3 years. Why the potatoes turned green I have no idea. If it was kept in absolute darkness (after all, the minimum illumination is sometimes enough for "green stuff"), then most likely a disease.
                      3. 0
                        22 December 2020 09: 33
                        The darkness is absolute. Maybe a disease.
                  2. +1
                    21 December 2020 23: 00
                    Quote: Doccor18
                    Almost all major crops can be grown by yourself, without imported seeds. True, this is a troublesome business, it requires a fair amount of health and patience. But the costs are minimal.

                    you REALLY represent the scope of work for FULL food for at least one family
                    1. +2
                      21 December 2020 23: 09
                      Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                      Quote: Doccor18
                      Almost all major crops can be grown by yourself, without imported seeds. True, this is a troublesome business, it requires a fair amount of health and patience. But the costs are minimal.

                      you REALLY represent the scope of work for FULL food for at least one family

                      I have a house next to me, my grandfather, he is 82 years old .. he has 25 acres .. his own hive, his own potatoes, his chickens, piglets, 60-something rabbits and a goat. He claims that his children, of whom he has two, do not buy anything from what he produces ... in other words, he feeds two families and he still has enough ...
                    2. +4
                      22 December 2020 07: 19
                      Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                      Quote: Doccor18
                      Almost all major crops can be grown by yourself, without imported seeds. True, this is a troublesome business, it requires a fair amount of health and patience. But the costs are minimal.

                      you REALLY represent the scope of work for FULL food for at least one family

                      Do not exaggerate. Of course, it is unrealistic to "get" sugar and bread on your own hundred square meters. I did not write about total food self-sufficiency. You can just survive in hard times. But city dwellers have absolute sadness with this business ...
                      1. +1
                        22 December 2020 16: 34
                        It will be possible to survive in this way somewhere in the deaf taiga. In the event of a riot, citizens instantly form gangs and march on such "gardeners". Not to mention the fact that a modern home is 95% volatile. This is not your grandmother's hut with a stove.
                2. +1
                  22 December 2020 10: 21
                  The wife collects tomato seeds, and we buy cucumbers.
                  1. 0
                    22 December 2020 17: 14
                    Mother collects constantly. Germination is scanty. And the harvest is bad.
                    1. 0
                      22 December 2020 18: 08
                      No need to take hybrid ones, they won't make good seeds from them. The wife mainly plants apple, bovine heart and debarau. The latter are for canning, and the former and the latter are for food and tomato juice.
                      1. 0
                        22 December 2020 19: 41
                        So 99 percent of what is sold is hybrids.
              2. -1
                21 December 2020 23: 02
                Quote: Doccor18
                Fasten yourself and finish building.
                With a garden, you can survive even if you lose your job. I know this for sure.

                don't make people laugh
                first, at least roughly imagine HOW MUCH land will you need to feed ONE complete family?
                Can you imagine the second volume of work?
                1. +2
                  22 December 2020 01: 11
                  Can you personally imagine? I am. For 2 years in the 90s, my family lived from the garden. I know what it is like to process 14 acres of pretty shitty land with my mother at the age of 40. There is water in a ditch a couple of hundred meters from the site. You want to live quite well. Moreover, there is nothing else to do on an empty stomach.
                  1. 0
                    22 December 2020 08: 48
                    Quote: garri-lin
                    I am. 2 years in the 90s my family lived from the garden

                    unlike you, I did not live for 2 years, but I live on the ground and the garden for you was just a help and not a means
                    1. +1
                      22 December 2020 09: 39
                      I also live on earth. Several hundred cans of canned food a year from his garden. 4-5 varieties of greens all summer. But in those dashing years, there was no income at all. They bought only a set of Chukchi: salt, sugar, matches, candles, kerosene, ghee. At NG, we received a candy as a present. Snickers for me. Sister mars. If the land is fertile, it is quite possible to feed yourself.
                      1. 0
                        22 December 2020 09: 42
                        Quote: garri-lin
                        Chukchi set: salt sugar matches candles kerosene ghee

                        First of all, you are dissembling, you bought at least flour or bread
                        technology was used on the ground, etc.
                        and you didn’t collect firewood with a hand saw
                      2. +1
                        22 December 2020 17: 09
                        Bread was bought. But more often the mother fried cornmeal cakes. The technique was used only for the first plowing. The village council helped. The rest of the processing is manual. Druzhba sawed oak firewood. If you know what it is. By oneself. Law of the jungle you want to live, survive.
                      3. -2
                        23 December 2020 09: 37
                        Quote: garri-lin
                        But more often the mother fried cornmeal cakes

                        that is, you need flour
                        Quote: garri-lin
                        ... The technique was used only for the first plowing. The village council helped

                        and now there will be no first plowing
                        Quote: garri-lin
                        Druzhba sawed oak firewood.

                        and now manually since gasoline is the same bye-bye
                        Quote: garri-lin
                        By oneself. Law of the jungle you want to live, survive.

                        Kindergarten
                      4. +1
                        23 December 2020 11: 12
                        We raised the corn ourselves. One of the most unpretentious cultures. Well, it is very difficult without primary cultivation of the land. But again, we're not talking about post-apocalypse.
                        It is immediately evident that you are a person far from the village. Friendship is a slang term for a two-handed saw. As well as Pull Push. Works absolutely without gasoline. Of the minuses, well, it is very difficult for her to work alone. Kindergarten is to believe in an instantaneous transformation of the order. Both for the better and for the worse. Change will be slow and people will adapt. The 90s proved it was possible.
                      5. -2
                        23 December 2020 12: 59
                        Quote: garri-lin
                        It is immediately evident that you are a person far from the village.

                        hahaha
                        own apiary, 50 goats
                        Quote: garri-lin
                        Friendship is a slang term for a two-handed saw.

                        are you the smartest?
                        Was the forest felled for her or did they bring you the sawn timber and you just dismissed it?
                        Quote: garri-lin
                        Change will be slow and people will adapt.

                        changes will be instant as soon as the solarium ends
                      6. +1
                        23 December 2020 13: 39
                        50 goats? Apiary? And how much land do you cultivate? What do you feed goats? Do you plant honey plants around the apiary or find bees themselves?
                        We prepared firewood ourselves. In the worst time they dug up the sleepers of the old railway. If something after a couple of cuts saw the saw blunt to zero. As if the wood was impregnated with sand from the inside. Is it not destiny to anticipate the approaching arctic fox in advance? Personally, against the background of a mess because of Covid, I loaded up with stew, condensed milk, fuel and cigarettes (as a barter)
                      7. -1
                        23 December 2020 14: 34
                        15 hectares of land, hay grain corn, bees on free grazing m
                        leg linden
                        Quote: garri-lin
                        is it not destiny to anticipate the impending fox in advance?

                        do not laugh, what are you stocking up?
                        fuel, hay ?!
                      8. 0
                        23 December 2020 20: 32
                        There are no problems with fuel. If you have money. In general, if you have money, there is no problem to form a stock.
                      9. 0
                        23 December 2020 21: 02
                        Quote: garri-lin
                        There are no problems with fuel. If you have money. In general, if you have money, there is no problem to form a stock.

                        it only seems so, well, if you are not the head of state
                      10. 0
                        23 December 2020 22: 40
                        It depends on what is considered the necessary reserves. Several tens of liters of fuel is not burdensome for the budget. And this is enough for the same plowing, the most time consuming process. For the season. It is almost impossible to create a reserve for several years.
                      11. -1
                        23 December 2020 14: 35
                        Quote: garri-lin
                        loaded with stew

                        how much ?!
                        for two or three months?
                      12. 0
                        23 December 2020 20: 40
                        For about six months. Cereals, canned food. We ate something. Something lies. We change to fresh. But we reduce the amount of the stock.
                      13. 0
                        23 December 2020 21: 01
                        Quote: garri-lin
                        For about six months. Cereals, canned food.

                        for half a year this is on the basis that you eat not only stocks, but if you switch exclusively to NZ for just 2-3 months
                      14. 0
                        23 December 2020 22: 36
                        Hands have not been canceled. Even in the case of the most monstrous tryndets, at least some kind of exchange trade will remain. Marauding. Collecting pasture.
                      15. -1
                        23 December 2020 13: 01
                        Quote: garri-lin
                        It is immediately evident that you are a person far from the village.

                        although you are right, how many km to the nearest village, I live near a forest on a farm
                      16. 0
                        23 December 2020 20: 42
                        By the way, so as not to suspect the minuses are not mine. I almost never minus.
                2. +3
                  22 December 2020 07: 24
                  Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                  Quote: Doccor18
                  Fasten yourself and finish building.
                  With a garden, you can survive even if you lose your job. I know this for sure.

                  don't make people laugh
                  first, at least roughly imagine HOW MUCH land will you need to feed ONE complete family?
                  Can you imagine the second volume of work?

                  You do not correctly understand the meaning of what is written. I was not talking about 100% independence from the outside world.
                  It's just that a rural family, if God forbid something terrible happens like a war, will be able to live for some time on its own reserves, and a considerable time. And people from apartments in a week will go to storm grocery supermarkets ...
                  1. 0
                    22 December 2020 08: 49
                    Quote: Doccor18
                    will be able to live for some time on their own reserves, and a considerable time.

                    very small, I live on earth
                    1. +1
                      22 December 2020 09: 40
                      And if you yourself live on earth, why such skepticism about food aid?
                      Of course, you have to go shopping, but I don't even remember the last time I bought vegetables.
                      1. 0
                        22 December 2020 09: 46
                        precisely because I know what comes from what
                        you buy bread or flour, medicines, you do not live 100% from your land, not to mention the cultivation of the land with the help of technology, watering, electricity and other things that you do not even remember considering them natural
            2. +2
              21 December 2020 16: 53
              Ndaaaa. And we have such as trash escapists. I feel communism, we will build an order of magnitude longer than it was assumed by the classics of obscurity. What a nafig socialist consciousness when there is a man with his potatoes and cucumbers at the stage of withering away of tribal relations.
            3. -2
              21 December 2020 18: 31
              A holy place is never empty - there will be demand and supply.
          2. +3
            21 December 2020 17: 25
            50 buckets of potatoes and 20 cans of 3 liters of corned beef (cucumbers and tomatoes), all kinds of jam and compotes for a family of 6 people. So they lived in the 90s. Moreover, there are 100 chickens or ducks.
            1. +1
              21 December 2020 19: 13
              Quote: _Sergey_
              chickens or ducks, pieces of 100
              We lived in a curly way ...
          3. -1
            21 December 2020 22: 59
            Quote: 30 vis
            There were two or three bags of potatoes, a bag of onions, a keg of sauerkraut. salted mushrooms. cucumbers. compotes, jams, salads .. In the case of H, you could live half a year!

            do not tell, what six months? !!!!!
        2. +4
          21 December 2020 17: 22
          The house should be built somewhere in the mountains, in the taiga. So that no one was around except bears. Otherwise, someone will come and expropriate everything that was acquired by back-breaking labor
          1. +12
            21 December 2020 17: 34
            We must not build houses in the mountains, but fight this rotten capitalist system, look for ways to build a socialist economy. Otherwise, no houses in the mountains will save you.
          2. +1
            21 December 2020 18: 34
            Build in the Altai Republic - everything is remote and beautiful places.
            1. +2
              22 December 2020 08: 43
              Quote: Vadim237
              Build in the Altai Republic - everything is remote and beautiful places.

              Only work in the afternoon with fire can not be found.
              A colleague from Biysk moved. She spoke about the marvelous natural beauty and the amazing hopelessness of living ...
              1. -1
                22 December 2020 10: 13
                About Biysk. Work can be found and well paid. Even some of them cannot find personnel for production.
          3. +2
            21 December 2020 20: 23
            It is necessary not to build houses in the taiga, but to organize farms of adequate men. A lonely man in the taiga will be dispossessed and three trunks, if not Rimbaud, of course. And a farm with a dozen yards is a difficult goal. Shushara will not risk it.
            1. for
              +1
              21 December 2020 20: 55
              Quote: garri-lin
              farms of adequate men

              One of them will turn out to be "over adequate" and will dispossess the others.
              1. +2
                21 December 2020 21: 46
                Keep your friends close and your enemies closer. Anyone who is in plain sight can be burned with inappropriate behavior. The one about whom you do not know is much more dangerous.
            2. -3
              21 December 2020 23: 03
              Quote: garri-lin
              A lonely man in the taiga will be dispossessed and three trunks

              do not have time before you die of hunger
              1. +2
                22 December 2020 01: 03
                In the 90s, the periphery did not die out?
                1. 0
                  22 December 2020 09: 00
                  blah, but no one lived in the 90s exclusively on their own product, not counting the fact that there was light and heating in cities and in the village at least light and diesel for technology
                  1. 0
                    22 December 2020 09: 43
                    Strange confidence in the voice. Do you know for the entire collapsed Union? What where how was it? The fat layer was. But not everyone had access to it.
                    1. -2
                      22 December 2020 09: 47
                      Enough, did you make the medicine yourself or did you grind the flour?
                      maybe you sawed and felled the food with a hand saw?
                      1. -1
                        22 December 2020 17: 12
                        Medicines? Bandage, iodine, aspirin. It's not about the complete decline of civilization. And about the feudal self-sufficient economy. Part of the crop and offspring of rabbits were sold. The money received was used to buy the most necessary things.
                      2. -1
                        22 December 2020 18: 23
                        Kindergarten
                        Where are the rabbits lucky and on what?
                        For iodine and asperin, forget firewood and equipment, too
                      3. 0
                        22 December 2020 19: 44
                        What kind of world are you talking about? The last family on earth living at the foot of the Ural Mountains? Or just people who have moved away from civilization? We are not discussing post-apocalypse. Rather, the process of the apocalypse itself. Long, boring.
                      4. 0
                        22 December 2020 23: 03
                        Quote: garri-lin
                        Rather, the process of the apocalypse itself.

                        the situation will be the same - lack of food, medicine, energy resources, as a result of the death of most of the population
                      5. 0
                        23 December 2020 01: 22
                        It was all in the 90s. The people did not give up. Lack of power and power destroying their own people are different things. In the first case, the local authority will be strengthened. In the second, there will be a revolution.
                  2. 0
                    22 December 2020 10: 18
                    We had a village in the mountains there only in 2005 we got electricity. To get there, even now, before reaching 40 km, you leave the car and get there on horses. And so there are taluses and a car, such as 66 or UAZ, drives with open doors in order to have time to jump out, and the passengers go on foot.
                    1. 0
                      22 December 2020 11: 08
                      once again, the medicines, the flour you make yourself ?!
                      1. 0
                        22 December 2020 13: 14
                        Do you think someone went to the doctors there? There only 10 years ago a paramedic appeared. And the flour was delivered by the gamekeepers of the reserve on 66 and horses
                      2. 0
                        22 December 2020 16: 21
                        Quote: _Sergey_
                        And the flour was delivered by the gamekeepers of the reserve on 66 and horses

                        that is, they delivered
                        Moreover, such villages are a unique phenomenon, but they will also suffer the same tank as all one is not completely fixated on itself
          4. -3
            21 December 2020 23: 03
            Quote: _Sergey_
            So that no one was around except bears.

            and what are you going to eat in the taiga?
            1. 0
              22 December 2020 16: 22
              apparently there are already three specialists in the taiga and working with bone knives, shooting from a homemade bow and installing snares laughing
        3. 0
          21 December 2020 17: 36
          It won't help much if a nuclear missile arrives tomorrow.
        4. -5
          21 December 2020 23: 04
          your curators will not allow you to acquire your own farm, and those who have time will be pressured by taxes.
          In Europe, most of the population already does not have their own apartments.
          but lives in removable
      2. +2
        21 December 2020 16: 55
        Quote: Snail N9
        Private property will wither away, its place will be taken by the "economy of use", "the economy of participation" (while the concept of "socialism" Schwab and others carefully avoid)
        Where is "socialism" here ?! This is just capitalism in its wildest form: as long as you have strength, you have the opportunity to "subscribe" to services, and when you have no strength, there is no service either ... or you can simply turn it off.
        Quote: Snail N9
        Seventh, the new health care model will provide for regular testing, compulsory vaccination, issuance of a sanitary passport, and the establishment of restrictions and punishments for persons who evade the rules of medical discipline.
        It's just not clear: is this good or bad?
        I just don't like the fact that some football player, having a monstrous salary, pays about the same (even in %%) as office plankton, and the injury rate is very different.
        1. +10
          21 December 2020 17: 45
          These scum are preaching solidarity to us, while adopting laws, whenever possible, exclusively in their favor. They hang a full percentage contribution for medicine on an ordinary employee, but they limit themselves to a certain amount. The retirement age was raised due to demographic problems, and Putin so modestly said that he would not increase taxes on the rich in this regard. And the hell the brotherhood between the miner and the oligarch begins where the miner must plow for the oligarch's pocket and die in defense of his capital and ends suddenly where the division of the result of labor takes place, most of which the capitalist puts into his pocket.
          1. +5
            21 December 2020 19: 01
            Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
            These scum are preaching solidarity to us ...

            Have you read Surkov's article "Putin's Long State"? There he practically directly preaches fascism on the Italian model.
            1. +4
              21 December 2020 19: 57
              For me, there is no longer any doubt about where we are going. Fascism itself, in one form or another, raises its head all over the world. And we are no exception.
          2. +5
            21 December 2020 23: 03
            From the materials of the pravda.ru resource it follows:

            At the moment, the Federation Council is discussing the possibility of raising the personal income tax rate (personal income tax), as well as increasing the value added tax (VAT).
            The officials decided to increase the collected taxes by monitoring electronic transfers of citizens and tracking the value of their property.
            What is the reason?
            In 2020, tax revenues to the budget of the Russian Federation fell significantly, and in order to compensate for this, the authorities intend to toughen the situation for citizens.
            For those who earn more than 50 thousand a month, the personal income tax rate will be increased.

            Head of the Budget Committee Artamonov:
            "In 2020, tax revenues decreased by 4,5% compared to 2019. The income tax indicator sank the most - about 14%. The federal budget did not receive about 15%."
            At the same time, Mr. Artamonov is extremely concerned that budget overruns due to the provision of tax incentives will increase by as much as 2021% in 7 compared to the current year. And this is almost 4,7 trillion rubles.
            And although the income of personal income tax in the budgetary system of the Russian Federation at the end of 2020 is expected to be higher than in 2019 by 5-6%, however, these funds are completely insufficient to add up those same 4,7 trillion rubles that will go to pay off tax benefits, but should go to feed the poor with a domineering hand next year. That is, feeding with one-time handouts. Missing money will be squeezed out of those who earn at least something. About the National Welfare Fund - the Fund about which the government has triumphed so much - forget it! ..

            It turns out the redistribution of money within society. From not very poor to very poor. Poverty equalization.
            And this is instead of letting the people feed themselves through the liberation of small business from brutal legislative fetters, hordes of inspectors with a professional outstretched hand, from administrations, bandits and law enforcement officers, and others. Therefore, through the creation of additional tens of millions of jobs - forget it!

            The government will fondle foreign business with fabulous tax breaks under the foreign investment law, but not its homegrown one. Because the government does not need a people feeding on its own, since, as a result of all its previous activities, it itself will turn out to be unnecessary for an independent people.
            The current situation cannot be called otherwise than a war between the authorities and the people. The war is not named, but explicit. Without the skills of political consolidation, as well as immunity against bribery by handouts, the people are still losing.
          3. 0
            22 December 2020 13: 02
            Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
            They hang up a full percentage contribution for medicine on an ordinary employee, but they limit themselves to a certain amount
            You do not understand the problem: in any case, the payment goes at the expense of the employee, because it alone produces added value (under normal conditions). Another thing is that differentiation is needed according to working conditions: the bookworm suffers from some sores, the football player - others, and the bulletproof vest tester - the third. And the likelihood of diseases is different, and the salary too. Smoking, leisure - everything should be taken into account.

            Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
            Raised the retirement age due to demographic problems
            If! The retirement age was raised not in order to force people to work (like, no one because of demographics), but in order not to pay money! And taking into account the age of survival - nothing at all to pay. The only option is to compensate for their attempts: all the money, after death, is given to relatives ... but then the relatives will quickly deal with the elderly. Not humane.

            Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
            Putin so modestly said that he would not increase taxes on the rich in this regard.
            As I understand it, the oligarch does not live on his salary. And he doesn't care that 13% or 20%.
            For me, it would be more honest to make taxes more transparent: after all, an enterprise pays for an employee, in fact, from his salary.
            Well, let it be for everyone - honest 50-60%! Only at the same time - all the same - a guaranteed income equal to the subsistence minimum.
            The oligarch will not notice, and the unemployed will not die of hunger. And it's easier to administer.

            Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
            most of which the capitalist puts in his pocket.
            There will never be equality! But it is necessary to strive for maximum social orientation.
            1. 0
              22 December 2020 13: 21
              Quote: Simargl
              The retirement age was raised not in order to force people to work (like, no one because of demographics), but in order not to pay money!

              That's actually why. Read the question. The internet is full of information. And now you will not wait at all for the funded part. While it is freezing, but according to the logic of things, in the end they will say - "you hold on there." For the demographic problem cannot be overcome under capitalism.
              Quote: Simargl
              As I understand it, the oligarch does not live on his salary.

              In addition to the oligarch, there is a whole bunch of fairly wealthy people. And oligarchs do not live on alms anyway.
              Quote: Simargl
              There will never be equality!

              It depends on what you mean by this. And so I see you with a whole spectrum of petty-bourgeois delusions. Well, nothing is being treated. Life is a good doctor. And if it doesn’t kill it, it will definitely cure it.
              1. 0
                22 December 2020 15: 36
                Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                The internet is full of information.
                If you are friends with logic, filter the Internet. In order for a specialist to continue to work until the age of 65, while receiving a pension at the same time, there are many ways to motivate. But if the specialist is no longer disabled (not yet disabled, but no longer pulls) at 60, then these 5 years he will drag out a miserable existence.

                Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                And oligarchs do not live on alms anyway.
                Yeah. %% of shares. How much does it work for a worker? 40-50%? And for dividends? 13-15%?

                Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                It depends on what you mean by this.
                Anything. People are different.
                And in order to get more goodies, you don't always need a lot of efficiency (and intelligence / education).
                And distinguish between equality and egalitarianism.
                1. 0
                  22 December 2020 16: 35
                  Quote: Simargl
                  If you are friends with logic, filter the Internet. In order for a specialist to continue to work until the age of 65, while receiving a pension at the same time, there are many ways to motivate. But if the specialist is no longer disabled (not yet disabled, but no longer pulls) at 60, then these 5 years he will drag out a miserable existence.

                  Well, what does it have to do with it? It was about the fact that due to the shitty demography, the number of pensioners is growing, the number of employees is falling. And we have to do something about it. Where to get the money? From the nightstand?
                  Quote: Simargl
                  Yeah. %% of shares. How much does it work for a worker? 40-50%? And for dividends? 13-15%?

                  This is not the point is important. The important thing is that an ordinary road Russian pulls the strap to the fullest, although he is not chic anyway. But those who are chic got a chic indulgence. And this despite the fact that with medicine the further the worse.
                  Quote: Simargl
                  Anything.

                  That is, from your side, this is a conversation about nothing. I spoke quite specifically about the squeezing out of surplus value. That is, about the results of the labor of an employee that the capitalist takes in his favor. As a result of this entire economic system, we got another economic crisis, which, do not flatter yourself, even at the very beginning of the journey, and in the future another world war.
        2. 0
          21 December 2020 19: 00
          Quote: Simargl
          Where is "socialism" here ?!

          This is exactly the version of socialism. State capitalism. That's just something I wildly doubt that the West wants this. This is a utopia for them. And the "Brave New World" they strive for is a dystopia.
          1. -2
            21 December 2020 23: 18
            it is in the west that a new wonderful world is being introduced.
            and as in the novel by Huxley (who wrote about the Brave World) omegas are just slaves, so now in Europe they are already beginning to call for abandoning identity and becoming a faceless mass without history, clan and tribe, and even faith.
          2. 0
            24 December 2020 04: 17
            This is exactly the version of socialism. State capitalism.


            State capitalism in Belarus. And it has nothing to do with socialism.
            It's just that people constantly mistake any economy with guaranteed insurance payments for socialism, which is a consequence of high taxes. Therefore, at one time, Sweden was mistakenly referred to as "socialism", although this is an ordinary capitalist economy.
      3. +2
        21 December 2020 21: 49
        I'll add a little gag:

        Here are just some of the goals solved by the rulers under the guise of this nix:

        Redistribution of property, redistribution of finance in favor of transnational corporations.
        Destruction of small and medium-sized businesses.
        Elimination of cash as a method of payment.
        The squeeze of weak countries and economies.
        Inciting riots and discontent with the existing authorities around the world.
        Redistribution and concentration of power in a small, selected number of persons (as a result, in the hands of one ruler).
        Total control over people: maps, phones, software, security cameras, biopass, etc.
        The maximum separation of people and the incitement of some groups to others: by religious, medical (sick - healthy, sick with the wrong thing ...), age (including school and "age risk groups" by the crown), national, support the crown or no, local (restriction of movement), mental development,
        for financial well-being and other characteristics.
        Creation of conditions for the growth of indebtedness, debts (including those that do not exist) and, accordingly, the dependence of citizens on handouts, "favors" from the authorities and the rich.
        The desire to create a “new person”, from a person who cares about his soul and the souls of other people, to make a person trembling, shaking only for his life, thinking only about his daily bread and his health.
        Population decline through wars, conflicts, unrest, disease, stress and artificial hunger.
        Creation of an atmosphere of fear and insecurity of people in the future.
        The transformation of a "thinking man" into a "trembling" one.
        Cheating.
        And these are far from all the goals set by those in power within the framework of this operation alone, codenamed "Coronavirus Pandemic".


        I wrote here, a little earlier, at once and without preparation, so these are not all theses.
      4. 0
        21 December 2020 23: 51
        I do not remember where: "only the very rich have doors and carriages" (not literally) the rest are content with jantation ...
    3. +4
      21 December 2020 15: 14
      In perspective, it turns out, as in the novel Brave New World by O. Huxley. And even cooler.

      Caste society (gentlemen and slaves). Advanced technology is available only to members of the highest caste. Conscious intellectual and physical simplification, "zombification" of the lower castes.


      Similarly - eloi и morlocks in the novel by Herbert Wells "The Time Machine", where, in fact, some of them are half-animals that have lost their human appearance. Both physical and moral and ethical.
      1. +6
        21 December 2020 15: 33
        Quote: Insurgent
        semi-animals

        This path was invented by Wales ... And in life - everything goes not even to feudalism, but to slavery, in a new digital processing, where your "six" is precisely indicated, according to hard work, intellect, education, place and family of birth and residence. And he will receive the corresponding benefits according to the status. It will be very difficult to climb higher, but to fly off is easy: I drank too much, violated traffic rules, lit a cigarette, etc. This is what Samsonov is talking about!
        1. +4
          21 December 2020 15: 39
          Quote from Uncle Lee
          It will be very difficult to climb higher but to fly off is easy: drank too much, violated traffic rules, lit a cigarette, etc.


          Believe me, the one who has seriously "risen", and what is called a niche, will find a way to attract resources in order to stay. And in general, do you think that there is no place for corruption in this digital society?
          1. +6
            21 December 2020 15: 44
            Quote: Insurgent
            there is no place for corruption?

            She is indestructible, like all human vices ...
            And do not confuse the owners and their slaves - I wrote about them ... And this gradation has already begun.
        2. -5
          21 December 2020 16: 56
          Samsonov is high time to check for substances, grass and other mushrooms. For this can only be written after using them. I wonder how this actually goes through editorial control. If it is, of course.
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      3. +6
        21 December 2020 15: 39
        Quote: Insurgent
        Likewise - the Eloi and Morlocks in the novel by H.G. Wells "The Time Machine", where, in fact, that some, that others - are half-animals that have lost their human appearance.
        Or just like the 1986 film by George Denelia "Kin-dza-dza". No nature, no people, no planet - just sand.
      4. +2
        21 December 2020 20: 26
        Huxley has several castes. And they vary greatly in capabilities. And the Morlocks are extreme. Decadence of caste society.
    4. +12
      21 December 2020 15: 32
      A wonderful article .. after reading it, I was very surprised .. because the article reflects all my thoughts about the future and the past. Huge 10 fat pluses ..
      1. +10
        21 December 2020 15: 40
        Today is Comrade Stalin's birthday, Comrade Samsonov is an admirer, I thought there would be an article about Stalin, but here on you, about a new world and none of his admirers ever mentioned his birth.
        1. +16
          21 December 2020 15: 48
          Stalin. I. V.
        2. +20
          21 December 2020 15: 56
          Happy Birthday, Comrade Stalin !!
        3. +3
          21 December 2020 18: 46
          Today is Comrade Stalin's birthday, Comrade Samsonov is an admirer, I thought there would be an article about Stalin, but here on you, about a new world and none of his admirers ever mentioned his birth.

          By the way, yes, Iosif Vissarionovich's fans didn't even remember something, even if someone squeezed the article.
          Although I am not a supporter of his methods of management, in recognition of his merits, I recall his words about the bourgeoisie.
          In my opinion it is relevant.

    5. +1
      21 December 2020 18: 46
      Quote: Roman070280
      Actress Ellen Page star of "Inception" proclaims trans
      "And she was a girl ... and she was so-so too, a small loss for the gene pool!
    6. for
      -2
      21 December 2020 20: 45
      Well, our house-2 was closed. The economy will now trample.
  2. +4
    21 December 2020 15: 06
    A characteristic feature of all of Samsonov's articles is sound thoughts with a pile of absurdities. Everything is intertwined.
    The article is a plus.
    1. +14
      21 December 2020 15: 12
      Quote: bober1982
      Everything is intertwined.

      Nothing is intertwined there. Main -
      In fact, we are talking about neo-feudalism, neo-medieval and new Dark Ages.

      Degradation of education (education), culture mixed with a pandemic of the first, second, etc. the stage will be completed when a person becomes interested not in a smartphone in his hand, but in a piece of bread and a sip of water.
      1. +2
        21 December 2020 15: 14
        Quote: ROSS 42
        when a person becomes interested not in a smartphone in his hand, but a piece of bread and a sip of water

        That's right, they said well, because Samsonov writes about this.
        1. +10
          21 December 2020 15: 46
          Bearded classics teach that history develops in a spiral, returning to old forms at a new level .. Since we rushed from the feudalism of the Republic of Ingushetia into socialism, practically bypassing the stage of developed capitalism, we rolled back to it. For how long is another matter?
          If we manage to return socialism in the near future, then we will survive. If not, then the inevitable next stage of capitalism will bury us, because he does not need the existence of Russia within its borders even outside of Russia. Small pieces are much easier to exploit than a powerful public entity. The nation state in general under the rule of corporations is harmful, and even more so such as ours.
          1. +10
            21 December 2020 17: 43
            Quote: paul3390
            Since we rushed from the feudalism of the Republic of Ingushetia into socialism, in fact, bypassing the stage of developed capitalism, then we rolled back to it. For how long is another matter?

            Dear Comrade! You have written everything correctly and the question is very appropriate for how long. And now look at the local members of the forum and agree that this is a section of society and not the worst one. We all grew out of one, so to speak, Soviet overcoat, studied in the same schools, served in the same SA, graduated from Soviet universities, but how could it happen that many loving Stalin treat Putin with reverence and instead of transforming the whole world swears their own country.
            1. +10
              21 December 2020 17: 57
              many loving Stalin treat Putin with reverence and instead of transforming their own country they curse the whole world

              Unfortunately - indeed, very, very many fell for the promoted PR-project codenamed "Putin". And he is talented - well, already 20 years of people to endure brains! Not everyone can do it .. But how not to curry up - and you can’t hide the matter, the protégé of big business, by definition, cannot but conduct an anti-people policy. Refrigerator - it always wins in the end. And the catastrophic impoverishment of the people in recent years, together with the collapse of the entire social system inherited by us from the Union. - inevitably force many to finally look at things realistically. And having realized the capitalist realities - to recognize that the only way for the survival of the country and the people is socialism and the return of Soviet power.
              1. +9
                21 December 2020 18: 22
                Quote: paul3390
                to recognize that the only way to survive for the country and the people is socialism and the return of Soviet power.

                For you and me, this is absolutely obvious, but many think differently and how to convince them. Here are the questions.
                1. +6
                  21 December 2020 18: 45
                  Quote: Stroporez
                  Quote: paul3390
                  to recognize that the only way to survive for the country and the people is socialism and the return of Soviet power.

                  For you and me, this is absolutely obvious, but many think differently and how to convince them. Here are the questions.

                  Putin will convince them .. he has already done a lot for this .. another term of his rule and the people will begin to re-read Marx .. I remember five years ago and now, the difference, I must say, is more than noticeable and there are many more supporters of socialism.
                  1. +6
                    21 December 2020 19: 33
                    Quote: Svarog
                    Putin will convince them .. he has already done a lot for this .. another term of his rule

                    Comrade, the people simply will not stand the next term, everything should be decided for a year or two, otherwise either We or they ...
                    Otherwise, we will just die ...
                    1. 0
                      21 December 2020 20: 12
                      Quote: Stroporez
                      Comrade, the people simply will not stand the next term, everything should be decided for a year or two, otherwise either We or they ...
                      Otherwise, we will just die ...

                      But who? Who is ready to raise the red flag .. Even Platoshkin's timid attempts brought him to the dock .. And his support is not particularly visible.
                      What remains is agitation and propaganda .. there is not yet that mass of people ready to raise the red banner ..
              2. 0
                22 December 2020 14: 43
                I don’t know about poverty. A small percentage of Russians in the early 2000s and now have a few cars in the family, store shelves bursting with food, available for workers in white housing ... Where is it impoverishment ???
            2. -1
              22 December 2020 01: 00
              Quote: Stroporez
              but how could it happen that many loving Stalin treat Putin with reverence
              Precisely because both of them acted for the good of Russia. If Putin does something bad, they will stop treating him with reverence. It seems that everything is simple ...
          2. +8
            21 December 2020 17: 47
            Quote: paul3390
            If we manage to return socialism in the near future, then we will survive. If not, then the inevitable next stage of capitalism will bury us, because he does not need the existence of Russia in its even nonesh borders in FIG. Small pieces are much easier to exploit than a powerful public entity.
            So J.V. Stalin said that they would try to quarrel and tear us apart, which we are witnessing today
      2. +5
        21 December 2020 16: 15
        Quote: ROSS 42
        Quote: bober1982
        Everything is intertwined.

        Nothing is intertwined there. Main -
        In fact, we are talking about neo-feudalism, neo-medieval and new Dark Ages.

        Degradation of education (education), culture mixed with a pandemic of the first, second, etc. the stage will be completed when a person becomes interested not in a smartphone in his hand, but in a piece of bread and a sip of water.

        So far, I see that young people don't even need a piece of bread without a smartphone. A smartphone for them is almost real life, and real life is pale and uninteresting.
        1. +1
          21 December 2020 20: 28
          Quote: FIR FIR
          So far, I see that young people don't even need a piece of bread without a smartphone. A smartphone for them is almost real life, and real life is pale and uninteresting.

          not so long ago, reading books was also treated like that.
          Do not be so categorical, modern youth and youth 100 years ago are one and the same. just another time, another society.
          if you so want to blame someone then blame yourself. This youth is a product of parents and an era.
          1. +1
            21 December 2020 21: 13
            if you really want to blame someone then blame yourself

            Yes, I myself am a youth, but some kind of wrong way ... the smartphone and the electronic cigarette did not hook recourse
            This youth is a product of parents and an era.

            I do not know. Maybe, but not always.
      3. +3
        21 December 2020 16: 55
        And here is not a linkage arises, new feudalism in the presence of transcorporations is nonsense.
        Fiod is a self-sufficient, organized (no matter how) structural unit that practically does not need external connections. Fyod produces everything himself, or almost everything and consumes what he produces.
        Moreover, history teaches the disintegration of any state occurs by dividing into NATIONAL units and contrary to economic expediency.
    2. -8
      21 December 2020 15: 20
      the development of human civilization in the XNUMXth century gave rise to an irreconcilable contradiction: the management system (subsystem) turned out to be unable to cope with such a too complicated and dynamically developing object (human civilization). This forced the ruling elite of the Western world, like the Soviet Union, to follow the path of simplification, degradation of an overly complex system.
      Samsonov is delusional, which means he is lying, deliberately or for the willow, another question. fool The ruling elite of the USSR solved completely different problems. Transformation of power into personal and family wealth.
      1. +2
        21 December 2020 15: 29
        And who do you specifically mean by the "ruling elite of the USSR"?
        1. -10
          21 December 2020 15: 37
          Quote: tatra
          And who do you specifically mean by the "ruling elite of the USSR"?

          Those that the author has, honey. hi
          1. +3
            21 December 2020 15: 39
            Ha, and religion does not allow to answer my simple question?
            1. -4
              21 December 2020 16: 07
              Quote: tatra
              Ha, and religion does not allow to answer my simple question?

              Why, what question, and so is the answer. Chewing gum, your dear for 100 years. hi
              As for the "ruling elite of the USSR", why are you stupid? fool Part of the Central Committee of the CPSU, the KGB, the Government of the USSR, the CM, etc.
              1. +2
                21 December 2020 16: 39
                ENOUGH to get out cowardly. You wrote it yourself, so prove your words-what specific names were those of those whom you mean by the "ruling elite of the USSR".
                1. -1
                  21 December 2020 16: 43
                  Quote: tatra
                  ENOUGH to get out cowardly. You wrote it yourself, so prove your words-what specific names were those of those whom you mean by the "ruling elite of the USSR".

                  Some water from the fridge and 2 hours on the couch. request doctor then ...
      2. +5
        21 December 2020 16: 33
        Quote: Mavrikiy
        Samsonov is delusional, which means he is lying ...

        What, in your opinion, is the author lying?
        1. -3
          21 December 2020 16: 45
          Quote: aleksejkabanets
          What, in your opinion, is the author lying?

          request Read my comment, there all it is written.
          1. +7
            21 December 2020 16: 53
            Quote: Mavrikiy
            Quote: aleksejkabanets
            What, in your opinion, is the author lying?

            request Read my comment, there all it is written.

            Where is everything written?
            Quote: Mavrikiy
            Samsonov is delusional, which means he is lying, deliberately or for the willow, another question. fool The ruling elite of the USSR was solving completely different problems. Transformation of power into personal and family wealth.

            Can you voice the last names?
      3. 0
        22 December 2020 01: 28
        The middle class and the strata that tried to break out “into the people” are rapidly becoming poorer all over the world and will continue to go poor. The rich get richer.
        In particular, while Russian pensioners are counting pennies for bread and milk, and for housing and communal services
        What does "In particular" mean? As a pensioner, I did not understand who I am now - the middle class, or a layer that is trying to break out “into the people” ... This is important for me.
    3. -5
      21 December 2020 15: 22
      Your comment is a plus, and the article is ridiculous. A caste system is impossible, since any absence of social elevators leads to social instability. Social class is one of the main reasons for the 1917 revolution. And as much as the elites (like German Gref) would not want to, they will not be able to separate from the masses.
      1. 0
        27 December 2020 09: 18
        Quote: BerBer
        The caste system is impossible, since any absence of social elevators leads to social instability.

        Where, then, are the revolutions and social instability in India?
    4. +7
      21 December 2020 15: 44
      Quote: bober1982
      A characteristic feature of all articles by A. Samsonov is sound thoughts

      There is something to think about. The degradation of the whole world is visible to the naked eye, and that's it.
      with increasing speed. Especially the last 5 years.
  3. -6
    21 December 2020 15: 11
    The new world that will replace it will be even worse and tougher than the world of capitalism during its crises (world wars). In fact, we are talking about neo-feudalism, neo-medieval and new Dark Ages.
    Ku-ku! Everyone in the ranks of capitalism defenders? fool What will come is still to be seen and to a large extent depends on us. It depends, it depends.
  4. +7
    21 December 2020 15: 14
    When the greens are ready to destroy the foundations of industry and agriculture (which will endanger the lives of hundreds of millions of people)
    The lives of the Greens themselves will hardly change. And they fly off the hand to feed the turtles (by plane, esessno), and the fruits will be eaten, during the transportation of which more than the weight of the cargo was released carbon dioxide, and they will not unscrew the bulbs. All this is a "tyulka" for others, those whose lives (for the sake of their own) will be threatened. And this is how Samsonov is creative laughing .
    1. Fat
      0
      21 December 2020 17: 58
      Fantastic Samsonov! What a grim dystopia! "Whirlwinds hostile ... Dark forces" However, Samsonov is far from Orwell, just as the fictional fighter against the Goldstein regime is far from his prototype. The mystical reasoning of the man in the street, apparently constrained by conditions, Samsonov, has nothing to do with Marx's theory. Marxism is a scientific theory, while Samsonov's is a sacred delirium aimed at arousing "holivar"
  5. +6
    21 December 2020 15: 29
    At the expense of the collapse of capitalism, of course, the author got excited. Scientific progress will increase exploitation, this is a fact. And the absence of a socialist alternative makes social guarantees unnecessary.
    1. +2
      21 December 2020 15: 42
      why? Although I have never considered the author anything other than a science fiction writer with conspiracy mania, but in this he is right. any system tends to entropy. the world's striving for chaos is a fundamental property of nature. If you like modern writers, Dan Brown has a final novel, Origins. there, in a very accessible form, the author presents all this in the form of a theory. and of course, in his own manner, he describes Spain awesomely)
      1. +2
        21 December 2020 16: 26
        Quote: carstorm 11
        Why?

        The main beneficiary will not disappear ... and will not just give up his place.
      2. 0
        21 December 2020 19: 53
        Quote: carstorm 11
        If you like modern writers, Dan Brown has a final novel, Origins. there in a very accessible form the author

        Evil tongues, this novel was given a name The origin of stupidity, but as you know, we already live in a wonderful world and, therefore, such works by Mr. Dan Brown are in such high demand as a hit of sales.
        1. 0
          21 December 2020 20: 09
          Well, everyone has their own opinion) I love his krigi precisely for the description of those places where all the action takes place. He does it smartly) all the more since I said the concept of entropy in a very accessible form for the layman. I have a stupid habit of reading first and then watching a movie. So I started reading it from Code)
          1. 0
            21 December 2020 20: 17
            Quote: carstorm 11
            So I started reading it from the Code

            Your right, by the way, in all his bookstores Code exhibited as, Best selling, I don't know how now.
            Mr. Dan Brown is not at all as simple as it might seem to fans of his books.
            1. 0
              22 December 2020 01: 41
              I don't even know what to say) I mean the simplicity of the syllable) as for him as a person, I agree.
      3. 0
        22 December 2020 02: 17
        Quote: carstorm 11
        the world's striving for chaos is a fundamental property of nature.
        Why did the world become complicated for so long despite the 2nd law, and now it is in a hurry ...
        1. 0
          22 December 2020 04: 34
          Something affects this. Catalysts are falling one after another
  6. +9
    21 December 2020 15: 38
    Capitalism is a monstrously ineffective and unprofitable system for the country and the people, beneficial only to the capitalists themselves, their relatives, and some other categories around them, such as managers of "all sorts". And the two best Systems, both for the development of the country and for the majority of the people, were invented by the Soviet communists, this is socialism, and their enemies in the West are the symbiosis of socialism and capitalism, and the competition between their Systems brought great benefit to the world, and after the destruction of the USSR, degradation began, starting with morality and ethics, both in the world and on the territory of the former USSR.
    1. +1
      21 December 2020 16: 47
      Quote: tatra
      And the two best Systems, both for the development of the country and for the majority of the people, were invented by the Soviet communists, this is socialism, and their enemies in the West are the symbiosis of socialism and capitalism, and the competition between their Systems has brought great benefits to the world

      Dear Tatra did not quite understand on the second point ... the symbiosis of socialism and capitalism. How is this possible?
      1. 0
        21 December 2020 17: 08
        Well, firstly, in the West, what the enemies of socialism on the territory of the USSR call their beloved Sharikov "take away and divide" is taken from the rich at the expense of high taxes, and this money is divided between the poor by way of great social benefits. Secondly, in the West, the government helps business, and thus helps the people, keeps the prices of food and goods low for the people.
        1. +7
          21 December 2020 17: 18
          Under capitalism, there are some conquests of the elements of socialism. It is conquest, not symbiosis. This is a forced measure of the capitalists in order to relieve social tension.
          At the expense of high taxes ... also somehow not very well. In the developed countries of capital there is both small and medium and large ... and the most powerful global transnational. And with these taxes he solves his problems to prevent them from reaching the upper trough. Yes, part of it feeds to the lower layer .but this is not critical for them.
          But about affordable prices .. yes there is, but mainly due to the robbery of other less developed countries. Imperialism is global.
        2. BAI
          +4
          21 December 2020 17: 30
          and due to this it helps the people, keeps the prices of food and goods low for the people.

          Somewhat wrong. Rather, it supports the high purchasing power of the population. Food prices in France cannot be called low. But there are no hungry people.
  7. +1
    21 December 2020 15: 38
    History repeats itself in a circle. Perhaps we have already passed the peak of development and passionarity, a great migration of peoples or an invasion of "barbarians" is coming, or rather, it is already underway. Then the decline and new Middle Ages for 500-600 years, to come to a new renaissance, a new awareness of the role of man and a new goal of development. In the meantime, there is a fog in the minds, a dead end in business, everyone is just grabbing and hyping, around there are bubbles that have neither value nor meaning.
  8. 0
    21 December 2020 15: 46
    The good is always built longer than the bad. The bad takes less than ten years for citizens to believe that this is the truth. If history is not measured in years, even decades, then we can say: civilization itself will devour civilization. And in the future, hot Africa and will move its path to prosperity. She has it in her inner mentality; all the evil brought to that continent is brought from outside. And TNCs will go to Russia and destroy it.
    1. +4
      21 December 2020 17: 03
      hot Africa and will move its path to prosperity
      How wassat ,if it `s not a secret?
  9. -2
    21 December 2020 16: 04
    For the most part, the Western model is developing by leaps and bounds. Russia and the USSR are more leisurely and evolutionarily moving, which generally helps in terms of economical consumption of the planet's resources.
    1. Aag
      0
      22 December 2020 14: 35
      "... Russia and the USSR are more leisurely and evolutionarily moving ..."
      The fact that lately it has been STRONGLY slowly, I agree. And even earlier ... The exception is Peter's, Stalin's times.
      "... helps in terms of economical use of the planet's resources ..."
      Oops ... How's that?
      1. 0
        22 December 2020 14: 48
        Well, in terms of economical consumption of resources, in the sense of everyday things, in many ways they had a long period of work and resources were not processed into millions of pants that differed only in the color of the line. In general, since the main world consumer goods were not mass-processed into a landfill.
  10. +2
    21 December 2020 16: 45
    Oh, the conspiracies have arrived. How can this be missed ... You read the articles of this author and it gets worse and worse, as if they are probing the ground
    1. Aag
      0
      22 December 2020 14: 43
      "... and getting worse and worse ..."
      Is not it? I admit - for a separate individual (family, clan) in a separate period of time, - everything may be different ... But look around, you can't see it, or do you think it won't affect you?
  11. +5
    21 December 2020 16: 49
    Surprisingly good article from Alexander Samsonov. Very gloomy, but, by and large, all tendencies are indicated correct. Wells with "Time Machine" and Danelia with "Kin-dza-dza" were remembered in the comments for a reason ..
  12. -6
    21 December 2020 17: 18
    The author has a clear depression from wrong thinking + weighty fear of the future. It's not so bad, at least in Russia, and the west, well, that's their way.
  13. BAI
    +1
    21 December 2020 17: 23
    The old world - the capitalist one - is dying before our eyes.

    He has been dying since 1917. During this time, the USSR and the CMEA camp managed to be born and die. And capitalism is dying.
    1. +2
      21 December 2020 20: 49
      Capitalism has died happily. Fair competition is the foundation of capitalism. Without her, he loses the essence. The current economy is Frankestein's Monster, made of Mutants. A planned economy with the preservation of competition, but not fair but corrupt. Everything is complicated, but a mile away you can see that it is not fair.
      1. Aag
        0
        22 December 2020 15: 03
        Quote: garri-lin
        Capitalism has died happily. Fair competition is the foundation of capitalism. Without her, he loses the essence. The current economy is Frankestein's Monster, made of Mutants. A planned economy with the preservation of competition, but not fair but corrupt. Everything is complicated, but a mile away you can see that it is not fair.

        You can forget about the word "honestly" for a long time. In all areas of human activity (he jars himself, scary from the written words).
        But I'm talking about fair competition that you mentioned in your commentary ... In my opinion, this was not even proclaimed during the initial transition to capitalism, and further ... Perhaps the first time I heard about "fair competition under capitalism" was in EBN's times, The peak of the Soviet planned economy. Probably, just like you. I agree, there was enough reason for criticism. But not enough to destroy everything. It was necessary to optimize. (Later, in a slightly different way, China came to this. Do you doubt the results?)
        1. 0
          22 December 2020 17: 17
          As a result of China's economic reforms? Rossi needed live and young Stalin for this. In 1990.
  14. 0
    21 December 2020 17: 24
    The author is right in many ways, except for one thing. No political system is capable of saving the world by itself. The world could be saved only by morality, but for everyone to suddenly become good ("white and fluffy"), this is possible only in fantastic works. Therefore, our civilization (I mean humanity) is rapidly going downhill and there is no reason for optimism. It will only get worse, although in some ways the situation may and will improve, but in general it will collapse.
  15. +5
    21 December 2020 17: 25
    The USSR prevented the collapse of Russia. In the last century, the natural collapse of Western empires took place. If the Soviet government had failed to strengthen itself, then Russia would have faced the fate of Austria. The count on the existence of civilizations has never been justified forever. This is what the Aztecs, Egyptians, Romans thought. And if someone thinks that civilization has survived in Europe, he is simply mistaken. And in most cases corruption ruins everything. It destroyed Ancient Rome, and it threatens the current generation. ... The second no small threat is a decrease in human participation in the state. Over time, human participation in labor has sharply decreased. This progress has not yet reached its climax. What will be the fate of a person when robots will work and artificial intelligence will think?
  16. -5
    21 December 2020 18: 29
    "The old capitalist world is dying before our eyes." He will not die as long as money, personal initiatives, commodity-money relations and private property exist. The article is another dregs from Samsonov.
  17. -5
    21 December 2020 18: 46
    Author:
    Alexander Samsonov

    Who read the author, did not read the article. I prefer better fiction. request
    1. Aag
      +1
      22 December 2020 15: 19
      Quote: Tank Hard
      Author:
      Alexander Samsonov

      Who read the author, did not read the article. I prefer better fiction. request

      Some colleagues on the site have already paid attention to this, how much they split the society. By religion, income level, nationality, place of birth, age (however, what the author is talking about, including in the article). I do not pretend that my opinion is the only correct one, but so far, with some reservations, the plot of the article is described by the author, - the most plausible for what is happening. If there is a different opinion, - please, please. Arguments, such as - I don’t comment, - are not accepted for consideration.)))
      1. 0
        22 December 2020 20: 36
        Quote: AAG
        , the plot of the article, described by the author, is the most plausible for what is happening. If there is a different opinion, please voice it. Arguments, like, I don’t comment, are not accepted for consideration.)

        I wrote that I didn’t read the article (and now I don’t read it, even when I answer you), precisely because of the author. Are you trying to force me to read the article in this way?))
  18. 0
    21 December 2020 19: 41
    “The slave owner and the slave, the patrician and the plebeian, the landowner and the serf, the master and the journeyman, in short, the oppressor and the oppressed were in eternal antagonism to each other, waged a continuous, sometimes hidden, sometimes explicit struggle, which always ended in a revolutionary reorganization of the entire public building or the general death of the struggling classes ”- this is how Marx and Engels characterized the main phases of the class struggle.
  19. 0
    21 December 2020 19: 56
    Quote: Tank Hard
    Author:
    Alexander Samsonov

    Who read the author, did not read the article. I prefer better fiction. request

    I read it fluently, spat, and remembered:
    I don't remember from whom, I read about a famous painter.
    When the next (Jacobists, Royalists - it does not matter) went to the finish
    straight, a messenger came to him and hinted that it would be nice that he
    stroked the power of his pen on the still holding blue fingers for power
    their rivals and it will be credited to him.
    He, pacing in a thick toe-length robe embroidered with gold, loudly
    laughed and began to rummage in the corner in a heap, where half empty bottles and
    forgotten women's trousers, lay a pile of his "works". Having found the right one
    he immediately sat down at his office and sipped directly from the bottle yesterday
    champagne, ran boldly over the text and corrected in each line
    the name of the political force (the messenger from which was sitting right there) in the name of those that
    sintered and subject to destruction in disgrace and whinnied at the same time like a horse.
    The next day he woke up, showered with glory in all the newspapers,
    and under the windows the agents of the theaters crowded and everyone begged for any fee,
    convert his pamphlet into a play for their theater. Next is the new government,
    an audience with the prime minister, a prize and another title.
    At home, arranging booze for a week, he boasted to all the elite,
    that he has enough such "blanks" for all occasions, as well as fools
    politicians who are ready to buy them dearly, and plebeians who are
    junk is underway.
  20. 0
    21 December 2020 19: 58
    For that fought for it and ran! And do not blame everything on the elite, you yourself have to think. Or have you already forgotten how they squealed during perestroika that there was not enough sausage? And it's not better now. Well, you have to pay for everything good. And the payback, of course, will be terrible! But it’s too late, the locomotive left.
  21. -2
    21 December 2020 20: 29
    Some nonsense written under the fumes of delirium tremens)
  22. -2
    21 December 2020 20: 30
    Quote: bober1982
    A characteristic feature of all of Samsonov's articles is sound thoughts with a pile of absurdities. Everything is intertwined.
    The article is a plus.

    Article minus. This is bullshit.
  23. -6
    21 December 2020 20: 54
    IMHO, The author describes his speculations. No analysis.
    Somewhere they coincide with reality, somewhere not.
    But 3 points
    1) 30 years already a trend - the dollar is about to fall, Omerika is about to fall apart. And Pshik.
    2) The trend of "decay of capitalism" is already 150 years old. Already capitalism is about to fall. And zilch.
    3) And all these 40-year-old templates: "sex-rock-drugs", "dismantling the education system" "deliberately went to the degradation of society" "substitute for natural social communication" - is also zilch.

    And not tired? To lead the thought somewhere to the left? all in order to unite, with the help of this "terrible" messenger site, set and blame natural phenomena?
    As if there are no messengers in non-western China?

    Not tired, every week 1-2 similar articles ...
  24. +1
    21 December 2020 22: 33
    Fucked up in short "Masters of the West" in full. Now they are not masters at all. Others are needed.
  25. +1
    22 December 2020 00: 50
    In fact, we are talking about neo-feudalism ...
    .... then where is the neo-slavery system? ... Horses mixed in a heap, people,
    And volleys of a thousand guns ... (c)
  26. 0
    22 December 2020 01: 16
    Rave. First read the definition of feudalism. An oligarchy may come. Not feudalism.
  27. 0
    22 December 2020 08: 13
    Quote: Roman070280
    Actress Ellen Page star of Inception declared herself trans and asked to be named Elliot in the masculine form.

    member sewn?
  28. 0
    22 December 2020 10: 48
    everything was correctly written by the respected Alexander Samsonov
  29. +2
    22 December 2020 11: 17
    In this new world, which is typical, there is no place for Russia or our "elites". And they were too stupid to understand that. An extremely sad situation.
  30. 0
    29 December 2020 14: 36
    I wonder what fate is in store for those whom fools cannot control, those who cannot be trained: smart people, descendants of Atlanteans, brought up on the utopian ideals of freedom and justice?

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