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"Soviet technology will exhaust its resource in the coming years": in Ukraine they propose to choose a fighter from JAS39 Gripen and F-16 for the Air Force

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The Ukrainian press publishes a statement by the representatives of the Air Force of the Armed Forces of Ukraine (VVS) on plans to re-equip the fleet with a military aviation... The statement indicates that in 2021, the Armed Forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine will announce a tender for a new fighter, which should appear in service with the Ukrainian Air Force until 2035.


Ukrainian journalists:

It is necessary to analyze the needs of our Air Force Air Force, to look at the situation in this regard with the neighbors. But in any case it is impossible to hesitate, since Soviet technology will exhaust its resource in the coming years.

"Ukrainian military portal" invites the command of the Armed Forces of the Armed Forces to consider the issue of buying fighters abroad - while the issue of creating their own (Ukrainian combat aircraft) will be resolved. The proposal is as follows: consider the options for acquiring either the JAS39 Gripen from Sweden or the F-16 Block 70/72 from the United States.

From the material:

Approximately such a choice should face the Ukrainian Air Force very soon.

Recall that a few days earlier in Ukraine announced the next "modernization" of the MiG-29 fighters. It was reported that they were equipped with weapons that would allow them to strike at military equipment on the ground.

As a reference, it should be added that the Swedish JAS39 Gripen fighters from SAAB are in service not only with the Swedish Air Force, but also with the air forces of countries such as the Czech Republic, Hungary, Thailand and South Africa. In Britain, one such fighter is used as a training aircraft in a private test pilot school. F-16 fighters are much more widespread in the world.
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  1. Tiksi-3
    Tiksi-3 17 December 2020 11: 15
    +9
    It remains only to scrape together the dough by the bottom laughing
    1. umah
      umah 17 December 2020 11: 41
      +10
      Tender, choice! They will give you a slap on the head and order you to buy American scrap metal that has an expiration date.
      1. TermNachTer
        TermNachTer 17 December 2020 13: 17
        +2
        Not a fact at all. Pshekam mattress makers "vparili" F - 16, which did not fly at all))) the scandal was loud. Then they were somehow adjusted, they began to fly, but not very well. I think it will be easier with banderlogs - the mattress embassy will order and buy from storage bases, at the price of new ones)))
        1. krot
          krot 17 December 2020 16: 53
          +2
          I think the Sumerians will switch from jet to turboprop)
          1. WapentakeLokki
            WapentakeLokki 17 December 2020 19: 09
            -1
            ... you mean the Super Tucano ... but this is a light anti-guerrilla attack aircraft ???
          2. frruc
            frruc 17 December 2020 20: 01
            +1
            The proposal looks like this: consider the options for purchasing either the JAS39 Gripen from Sweden or the F-16 Block 70/72 from the United States.

            The proposal is good, the glider cannot be confused with another. But, most likely, it will be necessary to acquire second-hand in Poland or Bulgaria.
        2. Boris Chernikov
          Boris Chernikov 17 December 2020 19: 36
          -2
          well, if they accept a hopak ... they will definitely fly ... low low laughing
  2. Pete mitchell
    Pete mitchell 17 December 2020 11: 15
    +8
    I'm embarrassed to ask: who will pay for the banquet?
    1. Runoway
      Runoway 17 December 2020 11: 57
      +3
      As an option, Russia! There is still no SP-2, and if there is a cold winter and Europe needs more gas, then without options it will be necessary to negotiate with the Judas on pumping, which they still earn.
      And the IMF will immediately give money to the ancient American rubbish, after all, well done Americans good know how to trade
    2. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 17 December 2020 11: 58
      +2
      Quote: Pete Mitchell
      I'm embarrassed to ask: who will pay for the banquet?

      Especially considering the fact that even in the "fat years" the Chinese UBS L-15 was considered the optimal aircraft for the Ukrainian Air Force - because there was only enough money for it.
      1. Pete mitchell
        Pete mitchell 17 December 2020 12: 53
        0
        Quote: Alexey RA
        - because there was only enough money for him.

        It seems to me that behind this performer is the same old desire - to cut, the main motivator
    3. venik
      venik 17 December 2020 15: 19
      +1
      Quote: Pete Mitchell
      I'm embarrassed to ask: who will pay for the banquet?

      ========
      Directly "removed from the tongue" !!! I was also interested in this question:

      Maybe they are hoping for a "freebie" again?
      laughing
    4. neri73-r
      neri73-r 17 December 2020 15: 24
      0
      Quote: Pete Mitchell
      I'm embarrassed to ask: who will pay for the banquet?

      The owner will give free of charge, under the condition - the beginning of hostilities with us.
      1. Pete mitchell
        Pete mitchell 18 December 2020 02: 10
        0
        Quote: venik
        Maybe they are hoping for a "freebie" again?

        Quote: neri73-r
        The owner will give for free, under the condition ...

        The owner of the 404s of course for a long time shores beguiled, but there will be no freebies: the Balts have been sagging for a quarter of a century - and have not given anything serious to anyone; Eastern Europeans were also not presented. So far, only Lithuanians are acquiring modern auxiliary aviation - at their own expense.
        Americans can only "donate" an initial kit for organizing airspace surveillance, but Fear Danians bringing gifts
        1. neri73-r
          neri73-r 18 December 2020 12: 14
          +1
          Will give, even as will give, if the goal is to inflame hostilities between Ukraine and Russia! Price is a question - the main thing! If we are multiple times worse, they will give. All those whom you have named, except for the Ukrainians, are not Russians, and since Russians cannot fight, they will be crushed at once! And they know it. The so-called Ukrainians, who are actually Russians, are quite another matter! We may have problems with them, of course, we will crush them, but at what cost and what will be the consequences!?! hi The war between Russians and Russians is the dream of the Anglo-Saxon!
          1. Pete mitchell
            Pete mitchell 18 December 2020 14: 19
            +1
            Quote: neri73-r
            The war between Russians and Russians is the dream of the Anglo-Saxon!

            I really want you to be wrong, but this is not the case ... to break their dreams, you have to work
            1. neri73-r
              neri73-r 18 December 2020 16: 46
              0
              Quote: Pete Mitchell
              Quote: neri73-r
              The war between Russians and Russians is the dream of the Anglo-Saxon!

              I really want you to be wrong, but this is not the case ... to break their dreams, you have to work

              Of course, we must and will work.
    5. Petro_tut
      Petro_tut 17 December 2020 18: 42
      0
      I'm embarrassed to ask: who will pay for the banquet?

      We are all interested in this
      1. Pete mitchell
        Pete mitchell 18 December 2020 02: 13
        +1
        Quote: Petro_tut
        We are all interested in this

        I think this should primarily be of interest to the taxpayers of the 404 country, they would be stunned to see those numbers and the result repeat
    6. Whiteidol
      Whiteidol 19 December 2020 19: 22
      -1
      Curators will allocate a certain amount of money in the form of a loan and only for the purchase of the F-16 and for its modernization. They will say .. come, take it .. woooh those, yeah .. at the end of the hangar. Nooo .. those young Europeans are already taking away, and those are for you ..
  3. bober1982
    bober1982 17 December 2020 11: 16
    +7
    In Ukraine, former Soviet planes have long since exhausted their resources. We must humble our pride and go to Brazil to pick up the attack aircraft there.
    1. LiSiCyn
      LiSiCyn 17 December 2020 11: 36
      +9
      Quote: bober1982
      We must humble our pride and go to Brazil, for the stormtroopers there.

      And with whom, these "storm troopers" to fight? Even in a civil war, the Tukans do not shine from the word at all ... And if the third party intervenes, then the Tukans and their pilots have only the option of "kamikaze" ... Sala ukroine "...
  4. Trevis
    Trevis 17 December 2020 11: 20
    +5
    Buy F-35 right away!
  5. aszzz888
    aszzz888 17 December 2020 11: 20
    +4
    while the issue of creating its own (Ukrainian combat aircraft) will be resolved.
    So yes, the dreams of the Natsiks are simply of a universal scale! laughing
    1. Cananecat
      Cananecat 17 December 2020 11: 40
      +2
      After a shushpanzer from a famous battalion, I'm even afraid to imagine a summer from the same army)))
      1. aszzz888
        aszzz888 17 December 2020 11: 43
        +1

        Canecat (Canecat)
        Today, 11: 40

        +1
        After a shushpanzer from a famous battalion, I'm even afraid to imagine a summer from the same army)))
        And-ii specific comparison! good Letak of the eighteenth generation - takeoff on the shoulder, landing only in a corkscrew! wink
  6. paul3390
    paul3390 17 December 2020 11: 22
    +4
    Why not immediately the Death Star? The chances of earning pennies are about the same.
  7. Dimide
    Dimide 17 December 2020 11: 23
    +1
    As far as I understand, the discussion of this topic is connected with the visit of the Brazilians, where the SAAB plant for the production of Gripen has recently opened
  8. Romario_R
    Romario_R 17 December 2020 11: 25
    0
    The elder brother will find "a little" second-hand somolets and "give" a loan on bonded terms ...
  9. askort154
    askort154 17 December 2020 11: 26
    +2
    The statement indicates that in 2021, the Armed Forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine will announce a tender for a new fighter, which should appear in service with the Ukrainian Air Force until 2035.

    The entertainer, having become president, did not leave the 95th quarter.
    On the contrary, he dragged all of Ukraine there. Now all of Ukraine amuses the world.
    1. wow
      wow 17 December 2020 11: 41
      0
      Until what year, until 2035? They made the whole world laugh with their agrarian superpower ...
      1. Herman 4223
        Herman 4223 17 December 2020 12: 32
        0
        By 2035, with a hundred cars. lol
    2. Whiteidol
      Whiteidol 19 December 2020 19: 26
      0
      They like amerskie copters are still going to buy. The price of itself and the ammunition is straight, well, not very democratic ...
  10. APASUS
    APASUS 17 December 2020 11: 27
    +7
    Does Ukraine have a choice? It's even funny to read. Americans give money to Ukraine, and they buy JAS39 Gripen from Sweden, I can't laugh!
  11. A. Privalov
    A. Privalov 17 December 2020 11: 27
    +5
    I think they will stop at the F-16.
    The Americans will supply kit and training for pilots and technicians, and some ammunition for the first time, and a three-year service, and MTS from a direct supplier. In a word, there will be an offer that is difficult to refuse. wink
    1. Rubi0
      Rubi0 17 December 2020 11: 43
      -1
      You forgot the main thing, for this everyone will give a loan and still earn on interest
      1. A. Privalov
        A. Privalov 17 December 2020 11: 53
        +1
        Quote: Rubi0
        You forgot the main thing, for this everyone will give a loan and still earn on interest

        I do not know the conditions on which the order will be paid. However, I dare to assume that they will be quite acceptable. Loans for military supplies all over the world are long-term, payments stretch over years, and interest rates on loans are not at all as high as it might seem. hi
    2. dauria
      dauria 17 December 2020 22: 44
      -1
      The Americans will supply kit and training of pilots and technicians, and some ammunition for the first time, and a three-year service, and MTS from a direct supplier.


      In fact, the Swedes, making Gripen, laid the same idea - a cheap plane with minimal ground handling "on condition", excellent service from the manufacturer. But the trouble is - the Gripen phenomenon made a splash at first, an ideal car for the poor. But then, to their misfortune, it turned out that he wandered into the "field" where the Americans feed. And that's all. The plane is no worse than the F-16 suddenly turned out to be of no use to anyone.
      So either the F-16 is in debt, or the donut hole. In vain that they were fed cookies, not for some Swedes.
      1. A. Privalov
        A. Privalov 18 December 2020 01: 09
        0
        Quote: dauria
        It was in vain that they were fed cookies, not for some Swedes.

        I would not be so primitive. Moreover, the choice of the F-16 is my purely theoretical assumption, nothing more.
        1. dauria
          dauria 18 December 2020 02: 02
          -1
          Moreover, the choice of the F-16 is my purely theoretical assumption.


          well, I will please you. Not only yours. 22 years ago a monograph was published, where they "theoretically assumed" and substantiated why a mediocre and already inferior to many by 1998, Lockheed-Martin car would not let others live, especially Gripen.
          Take a look at your leisure, it's interesting when people know how to give an objective assessment as much as 20 years ahead.
          The article is long in several numbers. The one on the F-16 right here
          Gripen And Its Competitors.
          Aviation And Time 1999 04
          https://royallib.com/book/avtor_neizvesten/aviatsiya_i_vremya_1999_04.html
          1. A. Privalov
            A. Privalov 18 December 2020 08: 22
            0
            Thank you, I will definitely look. hi
  12. Outsider
    Outsider 17 December 2020 11: 39
    +2
    - The F-16 Block 70/72 is a great aircraft.
    1. Ovsigovets
      Ovsigovets 17 December 2020 18: 49
      0
      beautiful and not cheap plane)))
      1. Outsider
        Outsider 18 December 2020 01: 20
        0
        https://www.defensenews.com/global/europe/2019/06/04/us-state-department-approves-17-billion-sale-of-f-16s-to-bulgaria/
        $ 1.2 billion for 8 aircraft - 150 million per unit - but this with all the extras, absolutely, with the entire service structure, with a minimum of spare kits, etc. Further purchases will come out cheaper.
  13. Fitter65
    Fitter65 17 December 2020 11: 39
    +2
    "Ukrainian military portal" invites the command of the Armed Forces of the Armed Forces to consider the issue of buying fighters abroad - while the issue of creating their own (Ukrainian combat aircraft) will be resolved. The proposal is as follows: consider the options for acquiring either the JAS39 Gripen from Sweden or the F-16 Block 70/72 from the United States.
    It seems that they do not even live in virtual or parallel reality, this is the reality and everyday life of a psycho dispensary !!!!
  14. wow
    wow 17 December 2020 11: 39
    0
    And denyuzhki is, you are our svidomo !? Nobody will give you a loan!
    1. Herman 4223
      Herman 4223 17 December 2020 12: 29
      0
      They will be given a long time, and then they will not forget to pick it up with a percentage.
      1. Ovsigovets
        Ovsigovets 17 December 2020 18: 49
        -1
        will not give ... there is a very serious amount
  15. Reviews
    Reviews 17 December 2020 11: 47
    +1
    either JAS39 Gripen from Sweden or F-16

    Let me guess ... Even stubbornly neutral non-poor Austrians say that the SAABs are expensive. Ukraine will buy SAABs, right?

    wassat
    1. evgen1221
      evgen1221 17 December 2020 12: 45
      0
      Well, how could they swing at William of our Shakespeare and F35 can ask to sell - What is it worth for them - rollback there, rollback here and upon arrival they will receive a used condom from the parcel, but what, a balloon can also be qualified for litak)) ))
  16. voyaka uh
    voyaka uh 17 December 2020 11: 51
    +2
    There is a problem with the Swedes. They are very peaceful. Socialists.
    They sell military equipment, but if they start using it in hostilities, they immediately get an embargo.
    Have it, but don't fight! laughing
    1. iouris
      iouris 17 December 2020 12: 07
      +1
      Quote: voyaka uh
      There is a problem with the Swedes. They are very peaceful. Socialists.

      Do not. There will be no problem. The times are difficult, and when you really want to eat, the socialists turn into National Socialists.
      Sweden is very consistently pursuing a pronounced anti-Russian policy. In the 1950s, they even prepared to use tactical nuclear weapons against the USSR, and developed an "atomic cannon".
      At the borders of the USSR in the Baltic Sea, they always carried out reconnaissance very intensively, insolently, even violated the airspace.
  17. silberwolf88
    silberwolf88 17 December 2020 12: 00
    +1
    they need to choose L-39 ... the outskirts will not pull other equipment))) ... well, they can try to establish the release of AN-2 and certify it to the standards of NATA ... but in general, why do they need military aviation ...
    1. evgen1221
      evgen1221 17 December 2020 12: 43
      -1
      They will build a hang-glider with an elastic band and not such a high-tech advanced model of an airplane of a long-gone highly developed civilization. However, I'm not sure about the hang glider either.)))
  18. Ramadan
    Ramadan 17 December 2020 12: 09
    +5
    Some Ukrainian military portal published an article by some of its own journalist that the Air Force of the Armed Forces of Ukraine published some regular "Napoleonic" plans. The conversation is again about nothing.
  19. Ros 56
    Ros 56 17 December 2020 12: 11
    -1
    Even if they fly on a broomstick, these chubby half-fools, they still have no money to buy.
  20. AshPoseidon
    AshPoseidon 17 December 2020 12: 13
    0
    in Ukraine they offer to choose a fighter from JAS39 Gripen and F-16 for the Air Force
    They forgot about Rafale, too, not a bad fighter. True, the entire infrastructure, sharpened for Soviet technology, will have to be rebuilt.
  21. Herman 4223
    Herman 4223 17 December 2020 12: 25
    0
    Not so long ago, it was announced that one hundred cars would be purchased by 2035. Well, we'll take a look at what happens.
    1. kit88
      kit88 17 December 2020 13: 03
      +10
      100 pieces!?
      If we estimate that the same Slovaks bought (and cheaply) 14 aircraft for $ 2,91 billion,
      then, taking into account inflation, multiplying this amount by 10 we get approximately
      $ 30 000 000 000 belay
      No guys, the EU is not an ATM. (from)
      1. Herman 4223
        Herman 4223 17 December 2020 13: 20
        0
        I didn't pull them by the tongue if that. Here on the site this news was discussed, he neighing.
      2. Ovsigovets
        Ovsigovets 17 December 2020 19: 01
        0
        this is not the first time this topic has been raised))))) so I counted out loud from the last "emergence"

        Ukraine’s military budget for 2020 TOTAL 246 billion hryvnias, of which 17 billion hryvnias (NOT DOLLARS) are planned for the purchase and development of novya ... and I’m not looking any deeper for how much on the Air Force .... i.e. at the moment 635 million dollars .... we think further ... Saab JAS-39E / F Gripen - 48 million dollars .... F-16 Block 70/72 - 50 million dollars ... and it's bare airplanes ... without infrastructure, without training and without power supply ..... 6 pieces (2020-2021) + 8 pcs. X 5 years (until 2030) + well, and let another 8 pcs. X 5 years (until 2035) = 86 units for 15 years or $ 4,1 billion for 15 years only on bare planes ... but in fact Brazil bought 36 Saab JAS-39E / F Gripen for $ 5,4 billion. ....those. 86 aircraft = 12,9 billion dollars. DELIM for 15 = 860 million dollars. ANNUALLY from 635 million which ALL have ALL ALL new weapons and R&D ..... and this is the minimum of their plans .... let's calculate the maximum of 6 pieces. (until 2025) + 12 pcs X 5 years (until 2030) + 12 pcs X 5 years (until 2035) = 126 years = 18,9 billion dollars / 15 years = 1,26 billion dollars a year ..... ..M-MATHEMATICS - Queen of Sciences
  22. evgen1221
    evgen1221 17 December 2020 12: 39
    +1
    Directly tomorrow, issue a decree on a compulsory voluntary donation in the form of kidneys from each guide patriot of ukraine for the purchase of a used litaka! Who will not hand over, turn off the gas!)))
  23. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 17 December 2020 12: 55
    0
    Soviet technology will exhaust its resource in the coming years
    It is strange that during your maintenance and operation, it (Soviet equipment) has not yet exhausted its resource. Obviously they knew how to do it. Well, if you buy, then, of course, according to Ukrainian logic, American is better, or as a verbal compensation for Motor Sich, Chinese.
  24. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 17 December 2020 14: 58
    -3
    The main NATO countries are rearming the F-35. There will be a large market for bu F-16, Typhoons ...
    1. Servisinzhener
      Servisinzhener 17 December 2020 15: 41
      +2
      It's like that. But unlike the countries that were previously on American weapons. Ukraine will have to buy not only aircraft, but also all the machinery, equipment and ammunition for the operation of these aircraft. Plus training for flight and technical personnel. And the prices for all this pleasure in the case of US technology are not small.
    2. Vovk
      Vovk 17 December 2020 17: 10
      0
      Quote: Zaurbek
      The main NATO countries are rearming the F-35. There will be a large market for bu F-16, Typhoons ...

      Used F-16s are very expensive to maintain, the Ukrainian Air Force has already calculated that it is not profitable to take them used ... even for free.
      The main problem of Ukraine is that for air military equipment of modern standards, it is necessary to train not only pilots, but also technicians and airfield staff. This means that training requires at least 5 years, i.e. in the best case, a new aircraft will be adopted in 2021 + 5 = 2026. Therefore, after the choice, we will observe trips towards the preferences of delegations, as well as massive long-term business trips of flight personnel and technicians, personnel of aerodromes. Further, now a number of Ukrainian aerodromes are hastily equipped with modern equipment from the USA and Great Britain. The Ukrainian military begged him for free for the ability of the US and British Air Forces to use it as a jump airport in emergency situations in the air.
      Now regarding the aircraft, Canada offered services for the sale of the F-18 ... given ours and their climate ... this is the preferred car. F-16 is good for the desert, but with our frosts ... better than F-18.
  25. Tavi
    Tavi 17 December 2020 15: 23
    +2
    tender for a new fighter, which should appear in service with the Ukrainian Air Force until 2035.

    this is the first fighter, and the second when?
  26. Evil 55
    Evil 55 17 December 2020 18: 23
    +1
    Amazing ... Along the way, the rabbit Senya once again sent his emissaries to the Armed Forces of Ukraine with Euro-carrots on bacon .. In order to extend this bottomless feeder with crazy grandmothers leaving the territory of Krajina ..
  27. Ovsigovets
    Ovsigovets 17 December 2020 18: 56
    +1
    I want to buy a cow, but there is no money
    I can buy a goat, but I have no desire
    so let's drink to match our desires with our capabilities
    100 new generation fighters 4+ (4 ++) are very expensive, and they are rogue in the full sense of the word ... they have no money for Pakistani-Chinese fighters from the word at all ... what other flu
  28. Gregory Charnota
    Gregory Charnota 17 December 2020 18: 56
    0
    and money that is? Where are the pennies for the planes?
  29. WapentakeLokki
    WapentakeLokki 17 December 2020 19: 12
    +1
    Quote: Trevis
    Buy F-35 right away!

    .. literally they took it off the tongue ... here they bought the psheks .. the Israelis bought it .. so the weight is worthwhile (yeah, and very worthwhile $$$) ... and as a shock one should take the (used) F-117 ... there are many warehouses of Great Matrsia ..
  30. Eug
    Eug 17 December 2020 19: 31
    0
    If I am not mistaken, the F-16 has an "inverse" display system as compared to the aircraft of the USSR - "from the plane to the ground", the USSR adopted the "from the ground to the plane" system. This will require a very serious restructuring of the entire training system for pilots who will fly on these aircraft and, most likely, training them abroad. Moreover, in the event of retraining, a pilot will not be able to sit at the helm of a different type without a much more serious and, accordingly, expensive retraining than now. So, logically, there should be Gripen. If earlier it was about the "Chinese", especially interesting given the engines produced by the MS, now, given the situation around the MS, this option is not visible at all.
    1. Pete mitchell
      Pete mitchell 18 December 2020 02: 03
      +1
      Quote: Eug
      most likely teaching them abroad.
      Foreign F-16 pilots are trained in either Luke AFB or Tucson
      Quote: Eug
      F-16 "reverse" display system in comparison with aircraft of the USSR - "from the aircraft to the ground"
      are you about the horizon, aka PFD? This display system is likely to become the standard, although it takes some getting used to
  31. Rock616
    Rock616 18 December 2020 00: 32
    0
    "Out of the trash heap, announced the next modernization of the MiG-29 .." (c)
    I'm ashamed to ask, but even so .. this is some kind of "modarization" request ? Repainting it with a zhovtablakytny farboy? laughing wassat
    1. Pete mitchell
      Pete mitchell 18 December 2020 21: 55
      0
      Quote: Rock616
      I'm ashamed to ask, but even so ..

      But we won't worry that 404 paint won't be enough for the next upgrade? I do not believe that they can do more
  32. Vdi73
    Vdi73 20 December 2020 12: 29
    0
    They can choose only where to get the money, even if it is not a fact that they will be given it on credit, and if they do, they will have to pay, but they are not able to pay for the loans they have taken. In addition, their begging faces have already become so familiar to the West that soon they will simply start kicking in the ass without speaking. Their only hope is that Biden will be fed, but the senile people will have enough problems without them now.
  33. Armen Sologyan
    Armen Sologyan 20 December 2020 14: 05
    -1
    Well, their electronics are well harnessed by Russian electronic warfare equipment. At the same time, modern American fighters turn into airplanes and fall like a stone into the ground, burrowing into the very tomatoes.
  34. Amatar
    Amatar 21 December 2020 16: 06
    0
    I think Russia should be interested in Ukraine's purchase of this type of aircraft and, most importantly, in as new a modification as possible. Then, you see, a couple of pilots will fly to Russia, and she will receive modern avionics for study. And then they completely lagged behind in this direction. No matter what the jingoistic patriots say.
    1. Reviews
      Reviews 22 December 2020 12: 05
      0
      Quote: Amatar
      I think Russia should be interested in Ukraine's purchase of this type of aircraft and, most importantly, in as new a modification as possible. Then, you see, a couple of pilots will fly to Russia

      Many NATO pilots flew to the ATS countries?