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In Ukraine, they explained why the commander of the boat "Skadovsk" of the Armed Forces of Ukraine will be tried

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In Ukraine, they explained why the commander of the boat "Skadovsk" of the Armed Forces of Ukraine will be tried

The military prosecutor's office of the Belgorod-Dnestrovsky garrison of the southern region of Ukraine intends to recover from the commander of the Skadovsk artillery boat of the Ukrainian Naval Forces material damage in the amount of more than 1 million hryvnia for the damage caused to the boat during the Sea Breeze exercises.


The commander of the Skadovsk boat is accused of violating the rules of navigation and negligent attitude to military service (Art. 417, Part 3, Art. 425 of the Criminal Code of Ukraine). According to the case file, the incident took place in 2017, during preparations for the Sea Breeze Ukrainian-American exercise.

According to the prosecutor's office, a serviceman, well aware of the boat's unreadiness for going to sea, gave an order for the boat to participate in the exercises as part of a tactical group of small armored artillery boats of the Ukrainian Navy. During maneuvers on the Danube River, the boat was run aground, being damaged.

The boat made the transition to the exercise area to carry out activities according to the plan. Later, during maneuvering on the Danube River, the commander did not objectively assess the existing risks, as a result of which he made a mistake and landed the boat "Skadovsk" aground

- said in the message of the prosecutor's office.

The boat commander was charged with causing material damage to the state of Ukraine and the military unit in the amount of 1 million 350 thousand hryvnia. The trial of the serviceman will take place in the Odessa region.
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Ministry of Defense of Ukraine
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  1. Victor_B
    Victor_B 17 December 2020 09: 07
    +5
    Beat your own!
    You look and strangers will be scared!
    1. Temples
      Temples 17 December 2020 09: 13
      +7
      Pridarki.

      Next time, boat commanders need to demand from the pilots.
      Otherwise, they will again be divorced for the loot.
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 17 December 2020 09: 23
        +2
        Quote: Temples
        Next time, boat commanders need to demand from the pilots.

        And order a tug to get out of the harbor.
        1. major147
          major147 17 December 2020 09: 54
          +5
          Quote: tihonmarine
          And order a tug to get out of the harbor.

          So the tug is not ready either request
          1. tihonmarine
            tihonmarine 17 December 2020 10: 04
            0
            Quote: major147
            So the tug is not ready either

            This means kyrdyk "to the great armada of the independent Sumeria".
          2. frruc
            frruc 17 December 2020 19: 18
            +2
            I do not understand why we need this garbage information. These are the problems of Ukraine, so let them digest it themselves. Some nonsense about the boat, the captain of this boat. And the latrine is there? Forgot to specify.
            1. major147
              major147 17 December 2020 21: 13
              0
              Quote: frruc
              I do not understand why we need this garbage information. These are the problems of Ukraine, so let them digest it themselves.

              You probably forgot that they have a "war" with Russia.
      2. NDR-791
        NDR-791 17 December 2020 09: 24
        +13
        Sounds strange ...
        a serviceman, well aware of the boat's unpreparedness for going to sea, gave the order for the boat to participate in the exercises as part of a tactical group
        This is definitely not the boat commander !!! He cannot give such an order by definition.
        But for this they may well:
        during maneuvering on the Danube River, the commander did not objectively assess the existing risks, as a result of which he made a mistake and landed the boat "Skadovsk" aground
        But this is not a special reason for the trial. It's another matter if while they were taking them off the ground, then weapons, communication equipment, toilets, the treasury of the flotilla, and personnel disappeared from the boat.
        1. Egoza
          Egoza 17 December 2020 09: 36
          +4
          Quote: NDR-791
          a serviceman, well aware of the boat's unpreparedness for going to sea, gave the order for the boat to participate in the exercises as part of a tactical group
          This is definitely not the boat commander !!! He cannot give such an order by definition.

          I beg of you! I needed a scapegoat - they found it!
          1. Revolver
            Revolver 17 December 2020 10: 08
            +3
            Quote: Egoza
            needed absolution

            I am sure that in your original text there was the word "KO3EL" between the words "was" and "absolution". I wonder who this word, which in this context is by no means a curse, could interfere?
            1. alexmach
              alexmach 17 December 2020 11: 29
              +5

              I wonder who this word, which in this context is by no means a curse, could interfere?

              automatic analyzer, who else
        2. Avior
          Avior 17 December 2020 09: 57
          +2
          I knew that there were some problems with the boat and did not report.
          1. ccsr
            ccsr 17 December 2020 11: 19
            +6
            Quote: Avior
            I knew that there were some problems with the boat and did not report.

            I think he knew, and reported, and he was ordered to go to the exercises - this is how it really happens. In general, to judge for having run the boat aground on a river, which can change the depth of the channel, in my opinion, is just meanness. It is enough to write it off from the ship's staff and not allow it to operate by any means - this all fits into the area of ​​disciplinary and service activities, and not judicial. I do not feel sympathy for this commander, but this is possible not only in the Ukrainian army, that is why I assess what would have happened to our commander in such a situation. Let the naval officers tell us what happens in such cases - they know.
            1. Avior
              Avior 17 December 2020 11: 22
              +2
              different options - could not report for some reason. at random. and it happens, and as you wrote. It just surfaced later when I ran aground and added.
              Danube is a rather big river, and very lively. I wrote there below - diverged on a collision course with someone
        3. Krasnoyarsk
          Krasnoyarsk 17 December 2020 10: 03
          +1
          Quote: NDR-791
          landing of the boat "Skadovsk" aground
          But this is not a special reason for the trial. It's another matter if while they were shooting from the shallows,

          Well, nothing is said about the lack of property and crew. laughing
          But I’m wondering - what kind of damage can a boat do if it aground? Or was the work of the tug that pulled the boat aground?
          1. novel66
            novel66 17 December 2020 10: 06
            +5
            what kind of damage can a boat do if it aground?

            the armor is cracked
        4. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 17 December 2020 10: 06
          +3
          Quote: NDR-791
          But this is not a special reason for the trial. It's another matter if while they were taking them off the ground, then weapons, communication equipment, toilets, the treasury of the flotilla, and personnel disappeared from the boat.

          And half of the personnel fled to Romania.
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    2. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 17 December 2020 09: 22
      +1
      Quote: Victor_B
      Beat your own!
      You look and strangers will be scared!

      This is not the boat that has already been captured at the Kerch Bridge. The commander was also tried, and awarded the "hero of Ukraine", but here the poor fellow will have to pay his whole life.
      1. Victor_B
        Victor_B 17 December 2020 09: 24
        +1
        Quote: tihonmarine
        It wrong boat, which has already been captured at the Kerch bridge.
        This your statement is true!
        wink
        1. Insurgent
          Insurgent 17 December 2020 09: 29
          +7
          According to the prosecutor's office, a serviceman, well aware of the boat's unreadiness for going to sea, gave an order for the boat to participate in the exercises as part of a tactical group of small armored artillery boats of the Ukrainian Navy.


          Cover the highest command personnel of the Ukrainian Navy, who also knew about the readiness bark ship and gave the order, whatever it was, to go out in order to demonstrate the mits of the Navy to the allies from NATO ...
          1. Reviews
            Reviews 17 December 2020 09: 48
            0
            Quote: Insurgent
            They cover the top commanding staff of the Ukrainian Navy, who also knew about the readiness of the ship's bark and gave the order, whatever it was, to leave

            In, outstripped. :)
            a serviceman, well aware of the unreadiness of the boat to go to sea, gave the order for the boat to participate in the exercises
            1. Insurgent
              Insurgent 17 December 2020 09: 52
              +3
              Quote: Avis
              In, outstripped. :)

              Similar in opinion that the person involved is being tried, but still scapegoat , comments are not my one. Read it.
              1. Aerodrome
                Aerodrome 17 December 2020 10: 13
                -4
                In Ukraine, they explained why the commander of the boat "Skadovsk" of the Armed Forces of Ukraine will be tried
                I will not even give examples with our ... "patriots" do not get through, they ... their faith ...
                1. Insurgent
                  Insurgent 17 December 2020 10: 20
                  +5
                  Quote: Aerodrome
                  I will not even give examples with our ...

                  Yours anyway BEFORE THIS , like crustaceans to Kiev.

                  A monument installed at the headquarters of the command of the Armed Forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, where Zelensky is presented in the guise of a tankman, in company with the commander of the Armed Forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine - Sikorsky, and the commander of the grouping of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in Donbass - Naev ...



                  1. Aerodrome
                    Aerodrome 17 December 2020 10: 22
                    -6
                    Yours, in any case, BEFORE THIS, as to Kiev crustaceans.
                    bye ... do you remember the "Mannerheim" board? ... then that ..
                    1. Insurgent
                      Insurgent 17 December 2020 10: 26
                      +8
                      Quote: Aerodrome
                      bye ... do you remember the "Mannerheim" board?

                      I remember. There was no "initiative from above". There was a local St. Petersburg libertist stratum at the municipal level.
                      1. Lech from Android.
                        Lech from Android. 17 December 2020 10: 29
                        -3
                        There was a local St. Petersburg libertist stratum at the municipal level.

                        Is this something?
                      2. Insurgent
                        Insurgent 17 December 2020 10: 33
                        +7
                        Quote: Lech from Android.
                        Is this something?

                    2. Aerodrome
                      Aerodrome 17 December 2020 10: 29
                      -5
                      Quote: Insurgent
                      I remember. There was no "initiative from above". There was a local St. Petersburg libertist stratum at the municipal level.

                      you in the course of St. Petersburg means?
                    3. Insurgent
                      Insurgent 17 December 2020 10: 38
                      +8
                      Quote: Aerodrome
                      you in the course of St. Petersburg means?

                      I am aware of "Sobchak's nest chicks" and other things, but due to circumstances I put up with the situation.
                      For Russia at the moment is such as it is, and there is only a desire so that you do not give up slack. Otherwise, the RF is weak, this is the collapse of everything here ...
                    4. Aerodrome
                      Aerodrome 17 December 2020 10: 41
                      -4
                      Quote: Insurgent
                      Quote: Aerodrome
                      you in the course of St. Petersburg means?

                      I am aware of "Sobchak's nest chicks" and other things, but due to circumstances I put up with the situation.
                      For Russia at the moment is such as it is, and there is only a desire so that you do not give up slack. Otherwise, the RF is weak, this is the collapse of everything here ...

                      when you say "you", you do not need to mean the Russian people, we have long been "for" ... the Puin system is against.
        2. Reviews
          Reviews 17 December 2020 10: 28
          0
          Quote: Insurgent
          Quote: Avis
          In, outstripped. :)

          Similar in opinion that the person involved is being tried, but still scapegoat , comments are not my one. Read it.

          I flipped from top to bottom. Your comment came first.
  • Victor_B
    Victor_B 17 December 2020 09: 09
    +3
    artillery boat "Skadovsk"
    How armored is it?
    It looks like an ordinary WFD!
    There are hundreds, if not thousands of such people in the former USSR along the seas and rivers.
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 17 December 2020 09: 26
      +5
      Quote: Victor_B
      How armored is it?
      It looks like an ordinary WFD!

      The KUM machine gun was set up, the Ukrainian Navy flag was raised, and here's an armored boat.
      1. Victor_B
        Victor_B 17 December 2020 09: 28
        +3
        Quote: tihonmarine
        The KUM machine gun was set up, the Ukrainian Navy flag was raised, and here's an armored boat.

        Horror flying on the wings of a pig! (Flying!)
        1. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 17 December 2020 09: 31
          +2
          Quote: Victor_B
          Horror flying on the wings of a pig! (Flying!)

          Remember "Comrade Petty Officer, and the crocodile flies?" So they "The armored boat flies, but quietly and nizneko."
          1. Victor_B
            Victor_B 17 December 2020 09: 32
            0
            Quote: tihonmarine
            quiet and nizneko

            Under water?
      2. Insurgent
        Insurgent 17 December 2020 10: 12
        +1
        Quote: tihonmarine
        flag "Ukrainian Navy"

        They are like amers - Navy , an acronym similar in sound to a mechanical contraceptive.
        1. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 17 December 2020 10: 18
          +2
          Quote: Insurgent
          They have, like amers, IUD, an abbreviation that sounds similar to mechanical contraceptives.

          Yes, they have strength like Estonia, and show off on the United States.
    2. Insurgent
      Insurgent 17 December 2020 09: 33
      +2
      Quote: Victor_B
      How armored is it?

      Otaka won, cotton, at once armor on Vkraini ... Well, without showing, it will be easy yes
      1. Victor_B
        Victor_B 17 December 2020 09: 34
        0
        Quote: Insurgent
        Otaka, better armor at once on Vkraini ...

        Oto!
    3. Avior
      Avior 17 December 2020 09: 54
      +2
      Who said he was armored?
      Project 1400 (1400M) patrol boats "Grif", NATO classification: eng. Zhuk class - a series of Soviet patrol and patrol boats in service with the Border Guard Service of the FSB of the Russian Federation, the Ukrainian Navy and the naval forces of other countries [1] [2].
      1. Victor_B
        Victor_B 17 December 2020 09: 56
        0
        as part of a tactical group of small armored artillery boats of the Ukrainian Navy.
        Quote: Avior
        Who said he was armored?
        Well, something like this...
        1. Avior
          Avior 17 December 2020 09: 59
          +2
          Written clumsily.
          He's not armored. A patrol boat from Soviet times yet.
      2. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 17 December 2020 10: 21
        0
        Quote: Avior
        Who said he was armored?

        The author's mistake - more precisely, it will be "the boat is not armored, made of bakelite plywood."
        1. Avior
          Avior 17 December 2020 10: 31
          +2
          A hull with combined contours (round-bilge in the bow and sharp-bilge in the stern) made of pressed panels, sheet and profile material made of aluminum-magnesium alloys. The dialing system is longitudinal with hinged frames, except for the nose, where the transverse dialing system. The hull is welded (pr. 1400 - riveted) made of aluminum-magnesium alloy B48-4T1, which makes it possible to use the modular method of building a ship. The hull is divided by watertight bulkheads into 6 compartments. The boat is capable of staying afloat when any compartment is flooded. The single-storey superstructure is also made of aluminum-magnesium alloys with welded or glue-welded structures.

          Made in Feodosia.
    4. Grits
      Grits 17 December 2020 11: 23
      +5
      Quote: Victor_B
      artillery boat "Skadovsk"
      How armored is it?
      It looks like an ordinary WFD!
      There are hundreds, if not thousands of such people in the former USSR along the seas and rivers.

      Ahhhh, yes I know him. In "Call of Pripyat" he stands in the middle of a former river. Stalkers go there to plump "Cossacks" vodka. It is not armored, but just rusty ...
      laughing
      1. Barnabas
        Barnabas 18 December 2020 00: 02
        0
        And, most importantly, it is always in its place, it will not float away)
  • Mykhalych
    Mykhalych 17 December 2020 09: 26
    -1
    "... a serviceman, well aware of the boat's unpreparedness to go to sea, gave an order for the boat to take part in the exercises ..." and "... During maneuvers on the Danube River, the boat was run aground, being damaged." - and For what they were judged, and ... For the fact that the boat is not ready or for being run aground?
    1. Reviews
      Reviews 17 December 2020 10: 36
      +1
      Quote: Mykhalych
      "... a serviceman, well aware of the boat's unpreparedness to go to sea, gave an order for the boat to take part in the exercises ..." and "... During maneuvers on the Danube River, the boat was run aground, being damaged." - and For what they were judged, and ... For the fact that the boat is not ready or for being run aground?

      Let's add trash. :) He knew that the boat was leaking, but under pressure he had to get out, and when the leak intensified, he ran aground to save the entrusted hospital ship. For that, and a shot from the cheated bosses.
  • Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 17 December 2020 09: 27
    +1
    Of course to judge!
    Undermine the power of ukroflot by 5% at once? Or 10? laughing
  • tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 17 December 2020 09: 42
    +3
    Quote: Victor_B
    Under water?

    The submarine submarine "Zaporozhye" fleet, which is interesting for them, goes above water, and boats go under water. Sumerians, they also won the Battle of Thermopylae.
  • Ros 56
    Ros 56 17 December 2020 09: 47
    0
    Well, what the hell do we need this garbage about Banderlog's gouges here?
  • venik
    venik 17 December 2020 09: 48
    +1
    "....According to the prosecutor's office, a serviceman who is well aware of unavailability of the boat to go to sea, gave the order for the participation of the boat in the exercises .... During the maneuvers on the Danube River, the boat was run agroundgetting damaged... ".
    =======
    Something I misunderstood ..... The boat was NOT ready to go to the SEA, sat ON a GRIN at the mouth of the RIVER during MANEUVERING ..... So WHAT happened there - a navigation error? Then where does "unreadiness" have to do with it? ...... "Darken" something!
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 17 December 2020 10: 23
      0
      Quote: venik
      Something I misunderstood .....

      And what is there to understand if the Sumerians won the "Battle of Dunkirk".
  • Avior
    Avior 17 December 2020 10: 05
    +4
    The senior midshipman is accused of being a military official, he negligently treated military service in a special period, and also violated the rules of navigation, which entailed grave consequences. In particular, moving along the Danube River, the soldier did not take proper actions to prevent collisions in the event of a danger of ships, approaching on opposite courses. As a result, the boat ran aground.

    The Skadovsk incident occurred back in July 2017 during the Sea Breeze exercise. Fulfilling the assigned training task, the boat maneuvered in shallow water. As a result of ill-considered actions of the crew at a speed of about 18 knots, the boat ran aground, damaging the underwater part of the hull.

    The repair of the boat cost the state budget 2 million 99 thousand hryvnia.

    Six months ago they wrote.
    I still think . He has a draft meter. How did he find it stranded?
    1. evgen1221
      evgen1221 17 December 2020 10: 38
      +1
      Yes, as usual, the fairway skidded with sand for a year and a truncated, sailed. And dredging is also expensive and the technique must be measured regularly and the sailing directions must be measured regularly (this also applies to us in the Russian Federation - on the Ob near Barnaul, behind the AMZ, the former used to go a lot of heavy things and now you can wade to the other side
      1. Avior
        Avior 17 December 2020 11: 02
        +2
        on the Danube fairway with sand? there would already be a cemetery of dead ships smile
        1. evgen1221
          evgen1221 17 December 2020 11: 39
          0
          Well, xs, while he could run aground, maybe he was saving a leaky trough with a heroic burst of water, but because of money for repairing nem, the bosses invaluable the feat.)))
          1. Avior
            Avior 17 December 2020 11: 41
            +1
            the soldier did not take proper actions to prevent collision in the event of a danger of ships, approaching on opposite courses. As a result, the boat ran aground.

            As a result of the crew's ill-considered actions at a speed of about 18 knots, the boat ran aground, damaging the underwater part of the hull.

            Left the fairway, perhaps. Nakosyachili.
    2. venik
      venik 17 December 2020 12: 44
      +2
      Quote: Avior
      I still think . He has a draft meter. How did he find it stranded?

      =======
      Who seeks will always find! lol drinks
  • evgen1221
    evgen1221 17 December 2020 10: 34
    0
    Well, the guilty have been awarded, the innocent have been punished. I am simply convinced that the unprepared boat was sent to the sea by order, and no one listened to the objections, because the great armada of ukrotaziks had to be rolled out.
  • TermNachTer
    TermNachTer 17 December 2020 10: 44
    0
    The boat commander was ordered to go to the exercises, and now they are making him an "extreme" - great. Now banderocommanders will no longer think about the service, but about not being "extreme")))
  • Guru
    Guru 17 December 2020 10: 48
    -1
    According to the prosecutor's office, a serviceman, well aware of the boat's unpreparedness to go to sea, gave the order for the boat to participate in the exercises as part of a tactical group
    I did not understand that the commanders of the boats are their own Admirals.
  • Igor Borisov_2
    Igor Borisov_2 17 December 2020 10: 52
    0
    a soldier who is well aware of the unpreparedness of the boat to go to sea

    I didn't understand anything from the note. The boat was not technically ready or was there a mistake in the navigation of the commander ???
  • Vladimir61
    Vladimir61 17 December 2020 11: 39
    0
    According to the case file, the incident took place in 2017, during preparations for the Sea Breeze Ukrainian-American exercise.
    Cool, in their department! Cap, from the same boat hero, for the "Crimean breakthrough", and he apparently costs a lot of money, then you need to compensate with his predecessor. After all, not even three years have passed ...
  • askort154
    askort154 17 December 2020 11: 43
    0
    The boat commander was charged with causing material damage to the state of Ukraine.

    The guy was lucky that there are no aircraft carriers in Ukraine. If instead of a boat, he ran aground an aircraft carrier - he would be shot. crying
  • Archivist Vasya
    Archivist Vasya 17 December 2020 12: 39
    +1
    "You come in, stalker. Our Skadovsk is always there, it won't go anywhere!" laughing
  • Artunis
    Artunis 17 December 2020 14: 07
    0
    The latrine is at least intact or unscrewed again on the sly ?! Everything that is acquired by backbreaking work ...
  • tovarich-andrey.62goncharov
    tovarich-andrey.62goncharov 17 December 2020 20: 33
    -1
    Skadovsk ... The Stalker takes part in the game. The fairy tale comes true ...
  • svoit
    svoit 18 December 2020 11: 09
    0
    Quote: Guru
    I didn't understand that the boat commanders are their own Admirals

    Most likely, he received an order from the command and duplicated his order on the boat for the LS, but forgot to send a report of not readiness. For I forgot that the main thing is paper, which can be wiped off when done
  • Metallurg_2
    Metallurg_2 19 December 2020 11: 48
    0
    And I thought again the toilets were unscrewed and sold ...
  • Petrol cutter
    Petrol cutter 20 December 2020 16: 35
    0
    In the photo, "Vulture".
    What personal names have they given?
    Our factory boiled dozens of them. The first workshop. All went under serial numbers ..
    Besides the first one, my third one also worked. There, larger dishes were produced ...
    By the way, "Grif" is a very valid car. And convenient as a platform. It is a pity that now there is no interest in him ...
    Although, who knows ?! People walk to this day.