Joint test of stealth UAV XQ-58A Valkyrie with F-22 and F-35 fighters in Arizona is not considered successful

In the United States, the next phase of flight tests of a promising drone XQ-58A Valkyrie. This time, during the tests, the stealth UAV performed its main function. However, the test in this case was not considered successful.

The main function of the stealth drone is to act as a kind of gateway for secure communication and logistic interaction between the fifth generation F-22 and F-35 fighters in service with the US Air Force. The flight took place in a "cooperative format": an XQ-58A Valkyrie drone and two fighters - F-22 and F-35A.

As noted in the American press, the possibilities for the covert exchange of information "in a semi-autonomous mode" were being worked out. The fact is that today in the United States there is significant difficulty in performing joint operations with F-35 and F-22 fighters. They use different signal configurations and communication equipment. F-22 - IFDL system, F-35 - MADL system. This prevents such fighters from directly communicating with each other in a secure communications format. For the "communication" to take place, the UAV uses the gatewayONE system, which has already been called "a step towards the military Internet of things." It allows aircraft to exchange data without sending this data to the operational processing center.

According to The Drive, with the help of the aircraft gateway, which is the XQ-58A, it is possible to receive both data streams, converting the signals as a result so that they can be processed by two types of fifth generation fighters.

From the material:

This paints pilots a complete picture of where everyone else is, what they are doing and what they see on their sensory systems, and allows them to communicate with each other. Using a stealth drone for this is a new, much more attractive and relevant option than using bulky converted airliners or special capsules suspended from a stealth fighter.

The tests were carried out at the Yuma Proving Ground in Arizona. At the same time, the troops noted that the tests as a whole can hardly be called successful. The fact is that of the 18 initially designated test goals, only nine were achieved.

US Air Force Lt. Col. Keith Stowe on new tests:

Obviously, not everything went completely according to plan. It turned out that some time after takeoff, the communication equipment lost communication, and all the test goals could not be achieved. At the same time, gatewayONE equipment was initially able to configure a two-way data transmission channel between platforms.

What caused the loss of communication has not yet been reported.

Comments

[mark2]

No, well, everything is simple.
Instead of replacing communication systems and PDs on the machines of the same manufacturer, making them universal, the Yankees decided to master a certain amount of dough to make the modem fly.
Or they could give it to the poor and the needy. Is that what they say here?

[NDR-791]

The main function of a stealth drone is to act as a kind of gateway for secure communication and logistic interaction between the fifth generation fighters F-22 and F-35
It seems that our MiG-25s also knew how to communicate in a group? Without any flying radios.

[Vol4ara]

Quote: NDR-791

The main function of a stealth drone is to act as a kind of gateway for secure communication and logistic interaction between the fifth generation fighters F-22 and F-35
It seems that our MiG-25s also knew how to communicate in a group? Without any flying radios.

So could they?
"It gives pilots a complete picture of where everyone else is, what they are doing and what they see in their sensory systems, and allows them to communicate with each other."

[NDR-791]

"It gives pilots a complete picture of where everyone else is, what they are doing and what they see in their sensory systems, and allows them to communicate with each other."
This is exactly what they could in a group of up to five vehicles with automatic target distribution. As now anti-ship. And that was FIFTY years ago! Maybe not so colorful, but reliable

[Cananecat]

This is called a smart budget cut. )))

[Vol4ara]

Quote: Canecat

This is called a smart budget cut. )))

A competent cut of the budget is a tree on the palace for 10 lamas and garlands for it for 3. How do you like the tree?

[Cananecat]

Not so ... have you already embossed the garland or haven't hung it up yet? ))
And yes ... you would write to the Accounts Chamber or to the Investigative Committee ... no? The hand will not rise except on the website? ))

[Vol4ara]

Quote: Canecat

Not so ... have you already embossed the garland or haven't hung it up yet? ))
And yes ... you would write to the Accounts Chamber or to the Investigative Committee ... no? The hand will not rise except on the website? ))

Maybe I can't write to Santa Claus yet?

[Alex777]

tree on the palace

All the best - to children!

[Aaron Zawi]

Road going by walking.

[Finches]

The coordinated and simultaneous action of units and subunits of all types and arms of the troops at sea, land and air (space), the Americans called - a multimedia concept of warfare! They fastened cyber troops to it ... Within the framework of this new-fangled trick, technologies for exchanging data with weapons from different generations are being developed ... Intelligent! But the simultaneous launch of 4 Bulava missiles from a nuclear submarine from a submerged position from the Sea of ​​Okhotsk at targets at the firing range in the Arkhangelsk province and their exact defeat made a greater impression on me - than the airlock drone!

[NDR-791]

The coordinated and simultaneous action of units and subunits of all types and branches of the armed forces at sea, land and air (space), the Americans called - a multimedia concept of warfare! They fastened cyber troops to it ... Within the framework of this newfangled trick, technologies for exchanging data with weapons from different generations are being developed ...
They get too bloated structure. And as you know - the larger the cabinet, the louder it falls. So far, it seems, the time has not come. But they work ...

[aszzz888]

Zyablitsev (Eugene)
Today, 06: 55
... But the simultaneous launch of 4 Bulava missiles from a nuclear submarine from a submerged position from the Sea of ​​Okhotsk at targets at the firing range in the Arkhangelsk province and their exact defeat made a greater impression on me - than the airlock drone! laughing

Счas, tovarischi matzo will be finished and begin to prove to you otherwise.

[rotmistr60]

over time after takeoff, communication equipment lost communication

Strangely, after takeoff, the connection was lost, but at the same time 9 test points were completed. Takeoff, establishment of communication, loss of communication, landing, and what other test objectives achieved?

[Kerensky]

Waving flags?

[NDR-791]

Remove the chassis, wave the handle to a neighbor in the group, after losing communication, say - save our asses, release the chassis ... further on the list

[Yura]

Quote: rotmistr60

Strangely, after takeoff, the connection was lost, but at the same time 9 test points were completed.

They pulled each other by the strings

[Thrifty]

This is only a confirmation of the truth that the new is born in pain! We just need to draw conclusions from the results of the torture of the United States! !!

[Kart]

Conclusions have long been drawn and implemented. Unified data exchange protocol.
And here, apparently, it will be more expensive to remake the F-22 than to build another intermediate data converter object.
In such a system, by default, there are more options for failure. One additional link with its own problems, and naturally considerable ones.

[Galleon]

You are minus - someone does not want to draw conclusions and learn from other people's mistakes.

[aszzz888]

The tests were carried out at the Yuma Proving Ground in Arizona. At the same time, the troops noted that the tests in general can hardly be called successful.

They would say bluntly - failed, so no, they begin to suck on the fact of failure.

[Ros 56]

So much for the exceptional ones, the truth is still the question of what definition to substitute for this adjective.
You can be fools, but you can be great. Your choice gentlemen.

[rocket757]

Joint test of stealth UAV XQ-58A Valkyrie with F-22 and F-35 fighters in Arizona is not considered successful

Normal testing process ... over time everything will work out if the concept is correct and they do not want to achieve the impossible for this product.

[APASUS]

Does it feel like the Americans are in the role of a catch-up? Whether or not they have such an opportunity, but it is necessary to show the F-35 and F-22, with the XQ-58A Valkyrie drone, after the Russians!
It looks more like a publicity stunt, they say we also have such opportunities. For some reason I am sure that now all the media will be filled with this news.

[Cool but not Igor]

Do they at least admit that they are different from us, or do you think that all our trials are going well? It's just that it's not customary for us to talk about failures, well, except for the shift in the deadlines for the delivery of equipment that are visible to everyone

[voyaka uh]

F-22 must be left alone.
Let them fly separately. Their electronics are outdated, but their fighting qualities are like
fighter to gain air superiority, remained.
And install MADL on Valkyrie, as on F-35. No intermediary blocks.
And develop a bunch of F-35-Valkiria.
They have the same cruising speed - 0.85 MAX. Very comfortably.

[OgnennyiKotik]

They are testing the possibility of creating a system combining different transmission protocols. This is the main thing. The question is not specifically in the twinning with the F-22, but in the integration of all systems.
This is a fundamental point. Interaction F35-XQ58 does not even need to be implemented, it has already been created. No problem at all. But so that all parts of the system, in real time, exchange data is an extremely difficult task.
Parts of the system: F22, F35, F15 / 16/18, tankers, AWACS, UAVs, ground air defense systems, operators, ships of the ILC and the Navy, helicopters, tanks, infantry fighting vehicles / armored personnel carriers, etc., etc. Existing and prospective.

[voyaka uh]

This is all true. But with Valkyrie, they need to hurry. If they do not want to get big losses in the air-sea skirmish with China. In the Far East, the Americans and the F-35 are not enough. And there are even fewer combat drones.

[OgnennyiKotik]

As always, you need to read the original. These tests were for the Advanced Battle Management System (ABMS) program, not Skyborg or LCAAT. Those. The XQ-58A was simply a platform that carried a payload. Loyal Wingman is going on, closer to spring they will start rolling out prototypes, then the appearance of production cars will become more or less clear.
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/38168/stealthy-xq-58-drone-busts-the-networking-logjam-between-f-22-and-f-35