The Turkish opposition demanded to put the S-400 air defense system on alert

The Turkish opposition called on the president and the country's authorities to activate and put on alert the S-400 anti-aircraft missile systems (SAM) purchased from Russia as soon as possible. This measure should be a response to the sanctions imposed by Washington against Ankara.

The acquisition of the S-400, which caused the US sanctions, is a sovereign decision of Turkey, for this reason we do not accept this step. What needs to be done now is to use these $ 2,5 billion systems as soon as possible.

- declared in the opposition Republican People's Party (CHP) of Turkey.

The Turkish Foreign Ministry also condemned the sanctions, saying that the sanctions imposed by the United States over the S-400 air defense system are "unfounded and unfair."

We condemn and reject the US decision announced today in connection with the supply of S-400 air defense systems, which includes unilateral sanctions against our country. Turkey will take the necessary steps against this decision, which will inevitably negatively affect our relations. Turkey will also not refrain from taking measures it deems necessary to ensure its national security.

- said in a statement.

Recall that on Monday, the United States imposed sanctions against Turkey within the framework of the Countering America's Adversaries Through Sanctions Act (CAATSA). The Turkish Defense Industry Directorate, its head Ismail Demir and three other Turkish citizens fell under the restrictions.

According to the head of the US Department of State Mike Pompeo, the sanctions are a "clear signal" that the US will "fully implement CAATSA" and "will not tolerate significant deals with the Russian defense and intelligence sectors."

Comments

[Pessimist22]

Well, that's okay, and the Turks sold air defense systems and the Yankees took up arms against them.

[Borik]

Turkey has something to answer Amers. They will take and excommunicate them from the airbase that the Americans use on Turkish territory. It seems that there are also nuclear weapons, if not all of them were taken to Romania.

[Orkraider]

Greetings!


There is something to give them, I agree. And the Incirlik airbase is weighty, no doubt about it. But the question is different:
-How much the Turks need it and will they really answer in order to play on the aggravation and expansion of the conflict with the States. Most likely, this is my opinion, they do not need it, and they will soon be looking for opportunities for reconciliation, and therefore they will answer now, but only in order not to lose face. This is purely my personal opinion, I hope to be mistaken, of course, and see further discord.

But the main thing is different, for some reason this is not in the article, as the reason for the sanctions sounded in the statement of the State Department and how they justified their introduction:

Clause 231 of CAATSA and today's action are not intended to undermine the military capabilities or readiness of Turkey or any other US ally or partner. On the contrary, they are aimed at making Russia pay a price in response to a wide range of its malicious actions, "the State Department said in a statement.

[neri73-r]

Quote: Orkraider

CAATSA law

This law is extraterritorial and illegal from the point of view of international law. Whoever fulfills it on the part of other countries is de facto not independent, these countries do not have sovereignty.

[Orkraider]

It is undeniable that it is not legal.
But I meant the following wording in the statement:
to force Russia to pay the price in response to its wide range of malicious actions, "the State Department said in a statement.
This is not the language of diplomacy, this is communication at the level of hooliganism with seeds))

[neri73-r]

Quote: Orkraider

It is undeniable that it is not legal.
But I meant the following wording in the statement:
to force Russia to pay the price in response to its wide range of malicious actions, "the State Department said in a statement.
This is not the language of diplomacy, this is communication at the level of hooliganism with seeds))

And what's new, the whole history shows that all of Europe, led by the Anglo-Saxons, are bandits, predators, developing by robbing other countries and peoples! It just needs to be taken into account in international and domestic politics, to understand that they only recognize force. Live with wolves, howl like a wolf, otherwise they will gnaw! (from)

[Orkraider]

Quote: neri73-r

Quote: Orkraider

It is undeniable that it is not legal.
But I meant the following wording in the statement:
to force Russia to pay the price in response to its wide range of malicious actions, "the State Department said in a statement.
This is not the language of diplomacy, this is communication at the level of hooliganism with seeds))

And what's new, the whole history shows that all of Europe, led by the Anglo-Saxons, are bandits, predators, developing by robbing other countries and peoples! It just needs to be taken into account in international and domestic politics, to understand that they only recognize force. Live with wolves, howl like a wolf, otherwise they will gnaw! (from)

Greetings!


There is nothing to add or subtract.
Clearly. A similar opinion and attitude towards the Anglophiles.

[Doliva63]

Quote: Orkraider

It is undeniable that it is not legal.
But I meant the following wording in the statement:
to force Russia to pay the price in response to its wide range of malicious actions, "the State Department said in a statement.
This is not the language of diplomacy, this is communication at the level of hooliganism with seeds))

Well, the country of bandits has long evolved into a country-bandit, no wonder!

[Anar]

And they can't get him out. The law forbids the mixing of nuclear weapons from the territory around which the hostilities are taking place. And there is Syria-Idlib nearby.

[kventinasd]

Quote: Borik

Turkey has something to answer Amers.

Will not work. Yankees can accidentally feed Edik, shawarma with a newcomer, and then blame everything on us.
Therefore, the Turks will quietly be outraged by the notes and will also quietly become silent.

[Alex777]

The Turks will close the airbase last.
When there are no other options.
And by launching the S-400 on duty, they can enter a permitting flight over the territory.
Then many will start flying in the Middle East, bypassing Turkey, Syria and Iran.
Both the French and the Yankees, etc.

[Machito]

A tender calf sucks two queens. Very similar to Ukraine. Only the sultan will be more toothy than a clown and a chocolate hare. We can only rejoice at the imposition of sanctions against NATO's second largest army. We need to drive a wider wedge between Turkey and the United States. A hundred years ago, the United States participated in the occupation of Turkey.

[credo]

Quote: Pessimist22

Well, that's okay, and the Turks sold air defense systems and the Yankees took up arms against them.

It would be necessary for the Russian leadership to think about how it could still be sold to the EU and NATO countries, which would make the US take up arms against them even more.
There are already successful undertakings. Here at least:
- they began to build SP-2 - the Anglo-Saxons imposed sanctions (and, in fact, lowered them for money) dozens of European companies, i.e. taxpayers of specific countries,
- sold the S-400 to Turkey - the Anglo-Saxons imposed sanctions on the departments and officials of Turkey, and this once again proved to Turkey that the United States would not shake Turkey's excessive independence, and even more so its independence.
It seemed to me that the sale of the coronavirus vaccine could become the next irritant for the Anglo-Saxons, but for some reason Russia began to offer it at a bargain price and cooperate with Astro-Zenica. But it was a good reason to get the Anglo-Saxons soaked in shit by our development in health care.

[Temples]

Quote: credo

It would be necessary for the Russian leadership to think about how it could still be sold to the EU and NATO countries such that the United States would take up arms

It's time for the leadership of the Russian mind to think about how a Russian person lives in his native country.

And selling resources is not tricky. And they sell resources for bucks and euros, but technology cannot be bought for this currency. For sanctions.
So, we are changing strategic raw materials for consumer goods.

And your enthusiasm about gas pipelines is at least strange.

[Sanichsan]

no! not ok! completely abnormal!
opposition demands strengthening of their country! what is this!
the opposition should demand to throw a nuclear bomb on Turkey!
Or no? or is it just our opposition?

[figwam]

The US will "fully apply CAATSA" and "will not tolerate significant deals with the Russian defense and intelligence sectors."

Just fall down and push up for everyone.

[Snail N9]

"Opposition" .... Yeah. "Pocket opposition" - to be more precise. Like the Liberal Democratic Party with us, only without a charismatic leader ...

[mark1]

The Russian MTO point in Antalya is a worthy answer to the intrigues of the United States!

[zwlad]

That's what I understand, a normal opposition. Not like in our country or in Belarus.

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: zwlad

That's what I understand, a normal opposition. Not like in our country or in Belarus.

What do you think is normal in this situation? The fact that the opposition in Russia will not be able to put forward a unanimous opinion, or that the ruling party, instead of dealing with state affairs, manipulates the legislation, composes "dead laws" and takes care of its own fate after being in government posts?
Statehood is determined not by the opposition, but by the majority of people who have chosen this very path. If this right has been usurped from them, then one should not consider a certain territorial association that lives "according to concepts" (decrees and directives) as a state, just as one should expect that it will make decisions for the common good.

[zwlad]

What even the opposition considers above all the security of their country.

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: zwlad

What even the opposition considers above all the security of their country.

And this is true, as well as the fact that the real opposition prefers the security of their country to personal security.

[Roman070280]

It will be symbolic if the Turks put the S-400 on alert precisely as a response to US sanctions ..))

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: Roman070280

if the Turks put the S-400 on alert precisely as a response to US sanctions ...

I'd better draw your answer.
This will:

[Ros 56]

So much for your democratic allies with a beastly grin.
And how did our liberal fuckers buy into this cheap chewing gum about American democracy in Soviet times? God knows that a trial is needed over these murderers of the Soviet Union.

[Doliva63]

Quote: Ros 56

So much for your democratic allies with a beastly grin.
And how did our liberal fuckers buy into this cheap chewing gum about American democracy in Soviet times? God knows that a trial is needed over these murderers of the Soviet Union.

Half of the country fell for chewing gum, jeans, etc. - are they liberal fuckers? Well, with a glass of beer, I probably agree But there is a problem with God - he does not exist, but there is a mass consciousness that will not agree with you. He doesn't care about the Union. Alas.

[Ros 56]

I would of course open a controversy with you, but not here.

[Doliva63]

Quote: Ros 56

I would of course open a controversy with you, but not here.

No, I'm a lousy polemicist, I'm more of a beer

[rocket757]

Interesno. Who then drowns for minke whales in Turkey?

[Keyser soze]

It is difficult to spin the wheel of sanctions, but then you cannot stop it .... Everything interesting for the Turks lies ahead. Without foreign investment, their economy is in a puddle. And you can't even talk about the military commissar - it's all European or American. For example, their F16 fleet is old - only about 50 pieces of the C / D model. And the upgrade does not shine in any way. At this time, the Greeks are pulling 70 F16s to block 72, plus 18 Raphales, plus they want an extraordinary delivery of F35s (24 pieces) from the Americans and one Arlie Burke, with Aegis as help.

And they will probably get it all. Maybe in exchange for the bases ... And then the Turks will fly, only with the permission of the Greeks.

[Tank hard]

Quote: Keyser Soze

It is difficult to spin the wheel of sanctions, but then you cannot stop it .... Everything interesting for the Turks lies ahead. Without foreign investment, their economy is in a puddle. And you can't even talk about the military commissar - it's all European or American. For example, their F16 fleet is old - only about 50 pieces of the C / D model. And the upgrade does not shine in any way. At this time, the Greeks are pulling 70 F16s to block 72, plus 18 Raphales, plus they want an extraordinary delivery of F35s (24 pieces) from the Americans and one Arlie Burke, with Aegis as help.

And they will probably get it all. Maybe in exchange for the bases ... And then the Turks will fly, only with the permission of the Greeks.

But for now, Greece has little chance against the Turks. IMHO And then we'll see. The Americans, again. became famous for their ability to abandon their allies to their fate (remember the Kurds). So. that nothing is clear yet.

[Petro_tut]

remember the Kurds

Kurds are not members of NATO IMHO

[Pavlos Melas]

Quote: Keyser Soze

It is difficult to spin the wheel of sanctions, but then you cannot stop it .... Everything interesting for the Turks lies ahead. Without foreign investment, their economy is in a puddle. And you can't even talk about the military commissar - it's all European or American. For example, their F16 fleet is old - only about 50 pieces of the C / D model. And the upgrade does not shine in any way. At this time, the Greeks are pulling 70 F16s to block 72, plus 18 Raphales, plus they want an extraordinary delivery of F35s (24 pieces) from the Americans and one Arlie Burke, with Aegis as help.

And they will probably get it all. Maybe in exchange for the bases ... And then the Turks will fly, only with the permission of the Greeks.

These sanctions not only affect the defense of Turkey, but also the products of the Turkish military-industrial complex, they will not be able to sell Atak helicopters to Pakistan because there are American engines. In general, first of all, they punished the neoosmanit economically, and they hit the prestige.

[Sanichsan]

Quote: Keyser Soze

And they will probably get it all. Maybe in exchange for the bases ... And then the Turks will fly, only with the permission of the Greeks.

"and the first intergalactic chess tournament will be held in Vasyuki!"
"the union of the sword and the plowshare! the foreign countries will help us!"
sorry, but this is exactly what I remembered

[Mikhail3]

The Turks are the heirs of a warlike power that had an illusory chance of completely swallowing Europe. Had it not been for the Battle of Molodi, most likely there would have been no Europe anymore, since the Turks stabbed European fortresses one after another, like nuts.
So the methods of shouting and direct pressure arouse rejection and rage in the whole country. Europeans, people cunning and experienced in diplomacy, have been driving Turkey like a heifer on a string for decades, receiving preferences and throwing all negativity on the Turks. It is very similar to our situation) However, when the "masters of the world" yelled from the USA, demanding to fall on their knees and obey, the whole cunning European game immediately went to dust.
Now the Americans will have to "answer for the words." As I have written many times, international politics is a dirty showdown between teenage gangs. We must comply. And the US is trying to behave like a warden in a juvenile prison. Only the youngsters stopped recognizing the authority of the overseer. The mandate, so to speak, leaked out)) Hehe ...

[_Ugene_]

This measure should be a response to the sanctions imposed by Washington against Ankara.

and that this answer compensates for the losses from the sanctions?

[Iris]

Chot some strange opposition - one of those oppositions that are eager to be more Muslims than the Caliph himself.
And the real opposition, it seems to me, if the "Guarantor of the secular nature of the state" had not successfully bitten off its head, would have long ago kicked it in the ass for its anti-American and anti-secular policy.

[Zaurbek]

In general, the reaction of Turkey is extremely interesting .... Indonesia is also watching India. The Turks have a problem with fighter aircraft, in the future, 10-20 years. They can also block F16.