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Press of Ukraine: Russia, weakened by sanctions, may not master the construction of 4 landing ships

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Among the four ships that the Russian Navy will receive in December 2020 is the Petr Morgunov Large Landing Ship (BDK). It will become the second representative of the project 11711 "Ivan Gren", as well as the second large landing craft built in a modern stories for the Russian Navy.


The portal Naval News reports.

The Northern Fleet received its first large landing ship in 2018. Large landing craft project 11711 "Ivan Gren" have a hull length of 135 meters and a displacement of 6,6 thousand tons. The ship is served by a crew of one hundred people. In addition, the BDK is capable of taking on board up to 300 marines, up to 12 tanks or 36 armored personnel carriers.

According to the plans of the United Shipbuilding Company, the third and fourth ships of project 11711, which are planned to be transferred to the Russian Navy in 2024 and 2025, will have increased parameters. The hull length will increase by 15 meters, and the displacement will reach 8 thousand tons. They will be able to accommodate up to 12 helicopters and up to six Serna landing craft.

Discussing this information, the Ukrainian edition of Defense Express expressed doubts about the feasibility of such a plan. The Ukrainian press believes that Russia, weakened by Western sanctions, may not master the construction of four landing ships. And this is taking into account the fact that one of them has already been built the year before last, and the second should be completed from day to day.

Knowing the current deplorable state of the Ukrainian shipbuilding industry, one can understand the doubts of journalists from Nezalezhnaya. Of course, a shift in terms cannot be ruled out, but there is no doubt about the ability of Russian shipbuilders to fulfill the assigned tasks. After all, only in 2020, which can hardly be called simple, they built for the Naval fleet Russia has 40 submarines, boats, ships and vessels, as the commander-in-chief of the Russian Navy, Admiral Nikolai Evmenov, told the newspaper.
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  1. Doccor18
    Doccor18 14 December 2020 17: 08
    +54
    Press of Ukraine: Russia, weakened by sanctions, may not master the construction of 4 landing ships

    And what about Ukraine?
    Weakened by short-sightedness, the Square will not be able to overpower even a missile boat of its own project ... The point is to grieve about others ...
    1. Cananecat
      Cananecat 14 December 2020 17: 14
      +25
      And the weakened Ukrainian press, in principle, will not be able to master anything ...
      1. Russ
        Russ 14 December 2020 17: 18
        +10
        Sick ... tongue without bones ... wink
        1. Stas157
          Stas157 14 December 2020 19: 12
          -8
          How to make positive news from scratch.
          You just need to make a link to the fake news of Ukraine, saying that Russia cannot do something there ... and confidently refute it.
          Success is guaranteed!
          1. The comment was deleted.
            1. Kart
              Kart 15 December 2020 08: 33
              +4
              built for the Russian Navy 40 submarines, boats, ships and vessels, as reported by the Commander-in-Chief of the Russian Navy, Admiral Nikolai Evmenov, in an interview with the newspaper.

              Well, it’s all gone.
              Go smoke around the corner.
              1. bulvas
                bulvas 15 December 2020 13: 30
                +3
                Quote: sustav75
                And then the adherents of the expired will come running! And they will say that we are ahead of the whole planet! And everything we have that has no analogues in the world! And Ukraine, now, will bend a little more! And the whole Western world ...


                And no need to pretend (we, we).
                Selyuk pulls a mile away.

                What else can Ukraine hope for?
                Does the Ukrainian press know that Russia has built and launched a supertanker, a super icebreaker, and many other smaller ones?

                In general, for the Ukrainian press, the key word sanctions.

                This is the only thing that warms their souls and makes it possible to convince their readers of a future change:
                - sanctions will destroy Russia, and then the Ukrainians will seize Russia to the Urals and return Crimea.
                1. shkiper83
                  shkiper83 15 December 2020 16: 11
                  -6
                  "The Ukrainian press is aware that a supertanker was built and launched in Russia" where was it built?
                  1. bulvas
                    bulvas 15 December 2020 18: 58
                    +3
                    Quote: shkiper83
                    where was it built?


                    where, where - on the "Star"!
                    "Vladimir Monomakh" is called.


                    The first Russian Aframax tanker Vladimir Monomakh was launched at the Zvezda shipyard

                    know what Aframax is?
                    - these are so large that they do not pass through the Suez Canal, but go around Africa

                    By the way, "Zvezda" is packed with orders for 10 years, if I'm not mistaken

                    Find out about the icebreaker yourself?


                    So, you can use your Ukrainian "press" on toilet paper.



                    1. shkiper83
                      shkiper83 16 December 2020 04: 57
                      +2
                      For your information, I have been working for Afromax for 16 years, now in the position of an executive officer. I also live in Nakhodka, on the other side of the bay from Bolshoy Kamen, where the Zvezda plant is located, and my friends work at the plant, including in the crew of the Monomakh. I personally saw how an almost finished tanker built in South Korea was brought up in tugs to the "Star". And here a cylindrical insert was stuck to it and they announced the construction of a tanker at our shipyard. Google the photo of the monomakh before entering the star. And for the general development, the name Afromax has nothing to do with Africa, let alone the Suez Canal. This is nonsense, of course, you wrote. The name is derived from the word freight (freight). I won't say anything about the icebreaker, I don't have reliable information. Good luck with the Ukrainian press and toilet paper.
                      1. bulvas
                        bulvas 16 December 2020 14: 07
                        -1
                        Quote: shkiper83
                        For your information, I have been working for Afromax for 16 years, now in the position of a senior officer.


                        Congratulations if so.
                        I didn't want to offend.

                        Why then did they ask in such a way as dreamers from Ukraine ask?

                        Quote: shkiper83
                        "The Ukrainian press is aware that a supertanker was built and launched in Russia" where where was it built?


                        What does your question mean if you know everything about it and even have seen it?

                        As for the name - I agree, it comes from an abbreviation associated with the English word freight.
                        But this is for the specialists you happen to be)

                        And for drummers on pans, who traded their shipyards for lace panties, a fairy tale about Africa will come down



                      2. shkiper83
                        shkiper83 17 December 2020 03: 09
                        -1
                        I answer. Because they did not build monomakhs on the star. Launched? Yes, I agree here. But these are two big differences between building and launching. I will tell you that a month ago, another almost finished hull built in Korea was driven into the plant, and soon there will again be songs about launching a new tanker. But they are still being built in Korea.
                      3. bulvas
                        bulvas 18 December 2020 12: 23
                        +1
                        Clear
                        Thanks for the information.

                        Sorry if that.
                  2. Non liberoid Russian
                    Non liberoid Russian 16 December 2020 19: 22
                    0
                    seems to me, you star, my friend, and you star often, as you breathe
                  3. shkiper83
                    shkiper83 17 December 2020 03: 21
                    0
                    Sorry, is that you for me?
      2. Ratmir_Ryazan
        Ratmir_Ryazan 15 December 2020 12: 46
        +1
        Your Ukraine has already fallen asleep and all and sundry use it.

        And Russia is developing both its fleet and its armed forces at its own expense and on its own and quite successfully.
      3. serezhasoldatow
        serezhasoldatow 15 December 2020 20: 04
        0
        And around the sea and okiyana.
  2. Borik
    Borik 14 December 2020 19: 38
    +7
    Russ
    Russia (maRus)
    Today, 17: 18
    Sick ... tongue without bones ...


    So why not Balobolit, if Ukraine is jealous. We are building a fleet at least with tension and they ...
  • Ascold1901
    Ascold1901 14 December 2020 18: 30
    +7
    You are a little wrong.)))) The Ukrainian press does not exist - there is only the press IN Ukraine.
  • frruc
    frruc 14 December 2020 19: 03
    +3
    There is nothing to comment on, What to take from the poor.
  • Lionnvrsk
    Lionnvrsk 14 December 2020 17: 14
    +3
    Quote: Doccor18
    The meaning of grieving for others ...

    This is about how a beautiful girl often chooses an ugly one for her friend, and they want to decorate themselves. yes
    1. Doccor18
      Doccor18 14 December 2020 17: 17
      +11
      True, it often happens that a guy chooses a "ugly" but kind and beautiful soul ...
      This is me about people.

      With countries, everything is much more complicated ...
      1. nnm
        nnm 14 December 2020 17: 48
        +9
        This is after three divorces with beautiful, if only))))
        1. FIR FIR
          FIR FIR 14 December 2020 18: 14
          +6
          More often one is enough yes
      2. Lionnvrsk
        Lionnvrsk 14 December 2020 17: 53
        +8
        Quote: Doccor18
        With countries, everything is much more complicated ...

        Well yes. You look - it seems like a beautiful lady, but it turns out that an old woman is a witch, who wants to ride on you yes
      3. zadorin1974
        zadorin1974 14 December 2020 18: 06
        +6
        Good Alexander. There are words of the actor of your namesake, Alexander Mikhailov, who played Pavel Zubov in the film "Guys" -All that you know about us peasants, that's why we love some people and marry others.
        1. Doccor18
          Doccor18 14 December 2020 18: 19
          +4
          Quote: zadorin1974
          Good Alexander. There are words of the actor of your namesake, Alexander Mikhailov, who played Pavel Zubov in the film "Guys" -All that you know about us peasants, that's why we love some people and marry others.

          hi Good evening Alexey.
          There are brilliant people, achievements, phrases. And there are films where almost everything is brilliant. Everyone looked, the words on the quotes went to the people and became a folk culture, folklore ...
      4. A good one
        A good one 14 December 2020 18: 10
        +3
        Quote: Doccor18
        True, it often happens that a guy chooses a "ugly" but kind and beautiful soul ...
        This is me about people.

        With countries, everything is much more complicated ...

        And if you really fall in love with her, you will live in perfect harmony, you will make your desired children, then it will bloom like a rose, envy to all "connoisseurs". yes
        1. Doccor18
          Doccor18 14 December 2020 18: 20
          +6
          Quote: Not bad
          Quote: Doccor18
          True, it often happens that a guy chooses a "ugly" but kind and beautiful soul ...
          This is me about people.

          With countries, everything is much more complicated ...

          And if you really fall in love with her, you will live in perfect harmony, you will make your desired children, then it will bloom like a rose, envy to all "connoisseurs". yes

          How beautiful you have written.
  • Svarog
    Svarog 14 December 2020 17: 20
    -14%
    Quote: Doccor18
    The meaning of grieving for others ...

    Here everyone now nods towards the neighbor .. and proves that the neighbor is doing worse .. and everyone is happy about it .. A very strange approach that is designed to blur their own failures .. You need to pay more attention to your own problems and most importantly solve them, and not look around how many cows have died ..
    And if you compare, then with those countries where, despite the crises, the economy is growing ..
    1. Doccor18
      Doccor18 14 December 2020 17: 23
      +1
      You need to pay more attention to your own problems and, most importantly, solve them.

      This is exactly hi
    2. nnm
      nnm 14 December 2020 17: 41
      +10
      Strange logic .... Ukraine is commenting on our capabilities, but are we to blame for this again?
      1. Alex777
        Alex777 14 December 2020 18: 15
        +4
        Strange logic .... Ukraine is commenting on our capabilities, but are we to blame for this again?

        It doesn't matter what Ukraine comments there.
        It is important how we react to comments.
        Here I am with a colleague Svarog I agree. yes
        A neighbor's cow died, a trifle, but nice? wink
        They cannot do otherwise. Why do we need this?
        1. nnm
          nnm 14 December 2020 18: 16
          +9
          And what's wrong with the collapse of the military-industrial complex of a country that openly calls us enemies? And if you pay attention, most of the comments have a humorous tone.
          1. Alex777
            Alex777 14 December 2020 18: 20
            -4
            And what's wrong with the collapse of the military-industrial complex of a country that openly calls us enemies?

            It depends on how we behave when they cease to be enemies. I mean Ukraine, not Bandera and criminals.
            After all, could the States, which bombed Japan, make it their ally?
            1. nnm
              nnm 14 December 2020 18: 24
              +9
              Vassal - yes! But the 200 protest rallies in Okinawa do not show any special friendship. As for Ukraine, you can do whatever you want, but that's all, you can forget about this country. This is anti-Russia. Even Soros called the fact that we treat modern Ukraine as the one we remember earlier - our main mistake. Everything, brainwashed there, lies, Russophobia are embedded in children's programs, textbooks, broadcast on TV 24/7. There is no more that Ukraine. There is Poland, version 2. All subsequent generations will grow up absorbing Russophobia from childhood.
              1. Alex777
                Alex777 14 December 2020 18: 27
                +4
                I have a lot of friends in Ukraine.
                And you are right in many ways, and the situation is changing nonetheless.
                Even in the most western areas.
                The better life we ​​have, the faster the improvements will go.
                Most importantly, they will always be our neighbors.
                1. nnm
                  nnm 14 December 2020 18: 34
                  +8
                  We have neighbors as well. But that doesn't make them our friends. And Ukraine openly considers us an enemy, so the attitude should be even tougher.
                  And the situation is changing in Ukraine with regard to the older generation. It doesn't matter. For the next generations are already growing like zombies.
                  1. Alex777
                    Alex777 14 December 2020 18: 34
                    -4
                    Well, that's different. hi
                    1. nnm
                      nnm 14 December 2020 18: 37
                      +6
                      An absolute analogy. Starting from neo-Nazism as an ideology acceptable in the state and ending with blaming Russia for everything and everyone, demonizing it, rewriting history aimed at forming an understanding that they have fought for freedom with Russia for their entire existence, etc. Exactly the same methods
                    2. Alex777
                      Alex777 14 December 2020 18: 43
                      0
                      So there are presidents from America. Restitution and all cases.
                    3. nnm
                      nnm 14 December 2020 19: 22
                      +2
                      Yes, I'm surprised that the Poles have not raised this issue yet, although the grounds for this are laid down in the association agreement
        2. Maikcg
          Maikcg 14 December 2020 21: 33
          +2
          That is, there Bandera and criminals are in power, every nation has the power it deserves, but should Russia behave correctly?

          And the states ... precisely because they did not crook their souls dropped a couple of atomic bombs and occupied Japan anally - that is why Japan is now an "ally", afraid to utter a word from under the bunk.
        3. Vlad Vlad (Shimas)
          Vlad Vlad (Shimas) 15 December 2020 18: 06
          0
          as soon as Russian bases appear on the territory of Ukraine, they will become allies. the usa with japan isn't it?
    3. kin
      kin 15 December 2020 17: 41
      0
      Not only Ukraine comments. Kazakhs are also trying to keep up.
      https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=2731954903737746&id=100007697894371&ref=opera_for_android_speed_dial
  • Kart
    Kart 15 December 2020 08: 36
    0
    Quote: nnm
    Strange logic .... Ukraine is commenting on our capabilities, but are we to blame for this again?

    Nothing strange for this commentator. Both he and Ukraine firmly believe that everything is bad in Russia and that the regime is about to collapse.
  • bk316
    bk316 14 December 2020 17: 54
    +7
    Here each now nods towards the neighbor .. and proves that the neighbor is doing worse
    What are you! You are proving that it is worse with us. laughing And not only here but everywhere and always.
  • lis-ik
    lis-ik 14 December 2020 18: 09
    -9
    Quote: Svarog
    Here everyone now nods towards the neighbor .. and proves that the neighbor is doing worse .. and everyone is happy about it ..

    And so it's easier to hang on to the ears and retouch your failures.
  • Lipchanin
    Lipchanin 14 December 2020 17: 21
    +5
    Quote: Doccor18
    Weakened by shortsightedness, the Square will not be able to overpower even a missile boat of its own project

    For more than 50 years they have not been able to build a bridge in Kuevo
    They can only make a "sledgehammer" that "shoots their own"
    1. 210ox
      210ox 14 December 2020 17: 45
      +2
      Well, you bent about fifty dollars. In the seventies, under the USSR, they would have built quickly. True, there was no such "Ukraine" country. And there is nothing to say about the content of the article. You never know where and what nonsense they print.
      1. Lipchanin
        Lipchanin 14 December 2020 17: 51
        +5
        Quote: 210ox
        Well, about fifty dollars you turned down.

        So he still isn't there laughing
        They started building back in the USSR.
        True, there was no such "country of Ukraine"

        What ?? And who did we attack with the hitler then?
        Such nonsense rushing, ears and brain already refuse to perceive ...
        1. 210ox
          210ox 14 December 2020 18: 11
          0
          The construction of it began in the 90s, while those were still successful years for Ukraine. Project, yes, perhaps.
  • Temples
    Temples 14 December 2020 17: 24
    -21%
    The Ukrainian press believes that weakened by Western sanctions Russia may not master building

    A Russian person would write - Russia cannot - blah-blah-blah.
    It was clearly not Russian here. And not a Ukrainian because a Ukrainian speaks Russian.

    After all, only in 2020, which can hardly be called simple, they built for the Russian Navy 40 submarines, boats, ships and vessels

    And this is a vivid example of cheating. When an elephant is inflated from a fly.

    40 submarines wassat

    Better this way
    4000 submarines, boats and life jackets wassat
    1. nnm
      nnm 14 December 2020 17: 42
      +8
      And then, after the "submarines", as I understand, they did not begin to read?
      1. Kart
        Kart 15 December 2020 08: 38
        +3
        Once they. need to comment urgently, democracyopsnost!
    2. Kart
      Kart 15 December 2020 08: 38
      +3
      Did you fail to read the entire phrase?
      40 submarines, boats, ships and vessels
  • barclay
    barclay 14 December 2020 17: 24
    +6
    Quote: Doccor18
    And what about Ukraine?

    How is that? Ukraine is proudly aware of its importance in weakening the hated Muscovy. They see themselves in the spotlight on this topic. That the sanctions are because of them offended ...
  • kit88
    kit88 14 December 2020 17: 28
    +10
    Quote: Doccor18
    And what about Ukraine?

    Do you think the General Staff of the RF Armed Forces has a plan to liberate Ukraine?
    Given the current realities, he simply must be. The General Staff does not make political decisions, but for any decision of the Supreme, he must have a ready-made plan of action. It is not excluded that in this regard there was a place for the large landing craft on the roadstead of Odessa.
    So our plans directly concern Bandera.
    1. nnm
      nnm 14 December 2020 17: 43
      +4
      Of course have. As well as the liberation of Washington, Berlin, Warsaw, and so on. Otherwise, nafig, the General Staff is needed if the situation does not play in any variations
  • Thrifty
    Thrifty 14 December 2020 18: 02
    +2
    Let them try to finish building the cruiser "Admiral Lobov" at their shipyards, which they called uk-roinoy, let's laugh at the results !!!
    1. Abel
      Abel 18 December 2020 20: 23
      0
      NOT Ukroina, but Outskirts
  • Terenin
    Terenin 14 December 2020 18: 10
    +6
    The Ukrainian press believes that Russia, weakened by Western sanctions, may not master the construction of four landing ships.
    Lived, darlings. They no longer even believe in their citizens and their qualifications ... by the thousands of people who work for us from Ukraine winked
    1. ul_vitalii
      ul_vitalii 14 December 2020 18: 54
      +1
      hi As if these forecasters did not freeze this winter, from the lack of gas and firewood. yes
  • Petro_tut
    Petro_tut 14 December 2020 20: 10
    0
    The meaning of grieving for others ...
    so they do not grieve, they hope that Russia cannot ...
  • aleks neym_2
    aleks neym_2 15 December 2020 00: 20
    0
    For that, Ukraine can build 70-year-old boats.
  • APASUS
    APASUS 14 December 2020 17: 09
    +3
    the Ukrainian edition of Defense Express expressed doubts about the feasibility of such a plan. The Ukrainian press believes that Russia, weakened by Western sanctions, may not master the construction of four landing ships.

    I could understand the reproach of the Ukrainian publication, I will be Ukraine at least a manufacturer of ships. And now such an analysis is ridiculous to read.
    1. AVA77
      AVA77 14 December 2020 17: 18
      +4
      Ukraine is the main manufacturer of hyperloops, they can. wink
    2. PSih2097
      PSih2097 14 December 2020 17: 42
      +5
      They had TWO - Karl !!! Two almost completed ships of the first rank - TAVKr "Varyag" and RRC "Admiral Lobov" - the first was sold for a pittance to the Chinese, the second is rotting at the outfitting wall ...
  • Fungus
    Fungus 14 December 2020 17: 14
    0
    How many will be needed and we will build
  • rocket757
    rocket757 14 December 2020 17: 16
    +3
    Press of Ukraine:

    The question is ... will it be easier for them to get it right from such statements ???
    What nonsense.
    1. HAM
      HAM 14 December 2020 17: 24
      +3
      Victor, this is nonsense for you, but for the "press of ukrainy" support for the pants ...... who will read them, if "the neighbor's cow is not dead" ??
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 14 December 2020 18: 56
        0
        What kind of people, what nation do not take, there is necessarily in folk art, there is something impartial, instructive about human vices !!!
        Why is the PEOPLE so wise, and the human being is so stupid and in a hurry to notify everyone about this with terrible force, wherever it can ???
        Again, this is outright STUPIDITY!
  • svp67
    svp67 14 December 2020 17: 18
    +4
    Well, of course, the bridge to the Crimea is DRAWED, and the new missiles - CARTOONS ... Well, how could it be otherwise.
  • Mouse
    Mouse 14 December 2020 17: 21
    +6
    They all look into other people's pockets ... they would pay attention to theirs with holes ...
    1. A good one
      A good one 14 December 2020 18: 04
      +2
      Good health to you hi Ugh on them. It's funny that the last sanctions list from Russia included 80 percent of Zelensky's Servant of the People party, these are those who condemned Russia's aggression against Ukraine in the vote. The rest were not included, since they were absent from the voting. I admit that some were with girls (boys), others were treated after their adventures. yes
  • Fedor Sokolov
    Fedor Sokolov 14 December 2020 17: 21
    +10
    Weakened by the sanctions, Russia has not mastered either the Crimean Bridge, the Crimean thermal power plants, or the Tavrida highway. In general, fantasize further svidomye, in your upside-down mind the Russian Federation no longer exists.
    1. ul_vitalii
      ul_vitalii 14 December 2020 18: 58
      +4
      Fresh news is news for them, and what you have listed, in their opinion, is subject to aging and destruction, due to constructive miscalculations and the evil eye on their part. yes
  • tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 14 December 2020 17: 29
    +7
    Uh-huh, the whole world will help us with Crimea! Uh-huh did they help? You won't build a gas power station in Crimea? You haven’t built a bridge to Crimea? Are these cartoons for you? Yes, you’re all lying! Earlier, there were kind of hard-working people when attention was paid to the neighbors They didn’t pay. The sea was dug up unnoticed for everyone. Yes, we will build two more large landing ships in Kerch, and you start the same way, you all frete, you only have cartoons!
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 14 December 2020 17: 30
    +1
    Frictions, give up! It's hard now, but when we finally get stronger, it will be worse! laughing
    1. Kart
      Kart 15 December 2020 08: 45
      +1
      Quote: Gennady Fomkin
      Frictions, give up! It's hard now, but when we finally get stronger, it will be worse!

      Do not! Don't give up, well nafig.
      And then in captivity they will demand white gurgle, bacon, and women. They are Europeans.
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 14 December 2020 17: 33
    +4
    Based on statistical data, due to the senseless "war" against Russia in Germany, engineering, chemical and manufacturing industries suffered the most. Moreover, from year to year, the indicators only worsened. The further into the forest, the more firewood. Further sanctions policy in this direction will only contribute to the aggravation of the economic situation. The European Union can stop the rapid decline of the economy to the bottom .... There is the Brazilian company Embraco.

    Manufactures compressors for refrigeration equipment. One and the same Embrakov compressor, which according to our orders comes from China and from Germany, differs in price by 4 times.

    Moreover, this difference has arisen over the past 3-4 years. It was one and a half times.

    The sanctioners did not fire, but had already sawed off their leg. laughing Now if we cut off the gas, then yes
    1. tralflot1832
      tralflot1832 14 December 2020 19: 21
      +1
      A colleague is definitely with refrigeration equipment, a holy place is never empty. Everything is produced in China and Indonesia with Brazil. hi
  • AB
    AB 14 December 2020 17: 39
    +5
    Ukrainian press

    The press of Ukraine, like the phrase English scientists, cause complete distrust, and sometimes homeric laughter.
  • Hagen
    Hagen 14 December 2020 17: 41
    +5
    Indeed, only in 2020, which can hardly be called simple, they built for the Russian Navy, 40 submarines, boats, ships and vessels, as reported by the Commander-in-Chief of the Russian Navy, Admiral Nikolai Evmenov, in an interview with the newspaper.

    Here the admiral probably made a reservation (if he really said that). Not built, but transferred to the Navy the number of ships and ships indicated. I am afraid that it is definitely beyond the power of our industry to build all of them in a year, and hardly anyone will be able to do this today. Such clauses can cause unhealthy discussions in the concerned public.
  • molyr
    molyr 14 December 2020 17: 47
    +2
    I remember there is no bridge either
  • Gunner
    Gunner 14 December 2020 17: 47
    +2
    And the Crimean bridge has already collapsed. Dreamers or Dreamers as you call them. As the Khokhs were envious, greedy, hated, they remained and this will outlive themselves. Fascist abomination.
  • Igor Borisov_2
    Igor Borisov_2 14 December 2020 17: 48
    +3
    It will be interesting to look at the third and fourth buildings. The large landing craft "Petr Morgunov" observed today the shipyard "Yantar" while the Russian flag was raised
  • Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 14 December 2020 17: 48
    0
    ... and before the sanctions, the Russian Federation had no technology
    1. Kart
      Kart 15 December 2020 08: 48
      +1
      Well from where.
      The descendants of the Sumerians and domestic fighters against the regime know for certain that there is nothing of their own in Russia, they eat up everything from the USSR or steal from a drunken shop. And then you see - sanctions.
      We're just about to finish eating, and then ...
  • 7,62x54
    7,62x54 14 December 2020 17: 50
    +6
    And that Ukrainian welders are no longer employed in Russia?
    1. tralflot1832
      tralflot1832 14 December 2020 19: 23
      +1
      I know for sure before the Ukrainians painted the hulls of icebreakers in Murmansk, on a rotational basis.
    2. Ulysses
      Ulysses 14 December 2020 20: 09
      +1
      Take, the question is in qualifications.
      Hull works have their own specifics.
      An acquaintance at the Yantar Shipyard works as a welder.
  • boris epstein
    boris epstein 14 December 2020 17: 59
    +2
    Let ukroSMI tell you how many years the missile cruiser "Ukraine", the brother of "Moscow", has been on the stocks. But in Russia, the cruisers of this project have been modernized and will continue to serve, and the cruiser "Ukraine", whose readiness for 1991 was 92%, was stolen, rusted and there is no chance of its completion at all. group on the ship and with tears in his eyes told what his unborn child had become. Or let them talk about the unfinished aircraft carrier sold to the Chinese.
  • Machete
    Machete 14 December 2020 18: 23
    0
    What do you care?
  • Constanty
    Constanty 14 December 2020 18: 28
    0
    Ukraine cannot even produce a batch of simple machine guns and mortars without sanctions !!!! So she better be silent
  • A_Lex
    A_Lex 14 December 2020 18: 33
    +1
    In this case, the potential problem is not in the sanctions, but in the fact that the Vladimir Andreev will be the next lead ship of the now modernized project 11711. And the lead ship of 1-2 ranks is usually built and tested for a long time. The same "Ivan Gren" was built and tested for 14 years before joining the fleet, although it seems that the command did not know what it wanted for a long time, since the ship was repeatedly rebuilt.
    The positive news is that the armament, apparently, will not change, and the Ka-52K is generally ready for today, therefore the project should not be slowed down like the same 22350 while waiting for the Redoubt to be ready.
    And the minus is that, judging by the change in performance characteristics, a large number of changes have been made to the modernized project, which in turn can lead to an inevitable delay in the testing time, which, judging by the prevailing right-hand drive practice, can easily grow from the planned year to 2-3 years.
    1. Kart
      Kart 15 December 2020 08: 50
      +1
      They may or may not move.
      They will build it anyway - only a modernized version.
  • Prisoner
    Prisoner 14 December 2020 18: 33
    +1
    laughing Neighbors will not crawl out of their parallel world either. Can't or don't want to?
  • iouris
    iouris 14 December 2020 18: 35
    -3
    Yes. It is impossible to master it without Nikolaev factories.
    1. Ulysses
      Ulysses 14 December 2020 20: 27
      +1
      What not to master, BDK ??
      "Yantar" works.
      "Gren", "Morgunov".
      1. Kart
        Kart 15 December 2020 08: 50
        +1
        It seems to me, it was sarcasm ...
  • Vlad Pervovich
    Vlad Pervovich 14 December 2020 18: 54
    +2
    deal with your Strongholds
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  • Yaro Polk
    Yaro Polk 14 December 2020 19: 14
    0
    And these, in some kind of their world live.
  • cheburator
    cheburator 14 December 2020 19: 33
    +2
    Knowing the current deplorable state of mind in the heads of Khokhloin journalists, "washed" by Western propaganda, one can understand their doubts!
    We are Russians! God with us!
  • Fedorovich
    Fedorovich 14 December 2020 20: 00
    0
    Phantasms and miasms ...
  • tarackanovaleksei
    tarackanovaleksei 14 December 2020 20: 28
    +1
    Weakening on the head of the Sumerian press, cannot realize the degree of their genius dementia.
  • Lord of the Sith
    Lord of the Sith 14 December 2020 20: 52
    +2
    Press of Ukraine: Russia, weakened by sanctions, may not master the construction ...


    Then you can not read, they are stupidly jealous, that's mumbling))
  • Pamir
    Pamir 14 December 2020 21: 09
    +1
    What kind of childish grievances do the Ukrainian press have? After all, they themselves sing that everyone has their own romances, finances. What do they care about the ships of the Russian Federation? The Russian Federation is building, not Ukraine. How many countries can build multi-format ships from zero to one hundred percent, without cooperation with others? Russia can, albeit with difficulties, but it can. Yes, there are many problems, but we have no one to rely on, only for ourselves. The Russian Federation will have a full cycle at internal capacities. But what is Ukraine? Even boats, several then with permission and in cooperation with NATO countries. And there is not much to tune. Although we have scandals-fights between enterprises, but the ships are our own, do not depend on foreign concerns and investments.
  • Crimean partisan 1974
    Crimean partisan 1974 14 December 2020 22: 16
    +1
    The Ukrainian press believes that Russia, weakened by Western sanctions, may not be able to master the construction of four landing ships ......... yes, judging by the press, there is no Crimean Bridge either .... and there is no Tavrida highway either. and 4 branches of the power supply of Crimea ... and there is no water ....... we are sitting on the border of Chonar and Perekop with outstretched dry circles with blue under the eyes from exhaustion ......... it is better to dock comrades all together ... and in a general letter ask the commanders in the. NEWS, WEAPONS, ANALYTICS and TD branches to make another branch..TOTALIZER .... where the participants could use it. the next delirium will come true or not. or what the next nonsense will be --- well, it's just a sketch ... but the topic is not so
    1. mmaxx
      mmaxx 15 December 2020 07: 03
      -1
      If you run out of hedgehogs there, write, we'll throw it. There is still stock wink wink wink
      1. Crimean partisan 1974
        Crimean partisan 1974 15 December 2020 07: 32
        0
        If you run out of hedgehogs there, write, let’s throw them in ..... Duc vnau there are practically no tanks ...... better send a couple of Ferris wheels to Chongar and Perekop, preferably as high as "London Eye" .... so that visitors Crimea shouted looking from a bird's eye view of the adjacent territory
  • Kostya Lavinyukov
    Kostya Lavinyukov 15 December 2020 00: 21
    +1
    I'm afraid to imagine how 12 helicopters get there. Or is it instead of tanks?
  • tolmachiev51
    tolmachiev51 15 December 2020 04: 17
    0
    My dear, what did you want to say !? or again slip. for discussion on VO, nonsense of chubaty Ukrainian lads !?
  • mmaxx
    mmaxx 15 December 2020 07: 01
    -1
    Wow! Now I know for sure that we will build them.
  • Petrik66
    Petrik66 15 December 2020 09: 38
    0
    Another Tabaki passed out. Why this informational rubbish?
  • Chizhov Kirill
    Chizhov Kirill 15 December 2020 10: 43
    0
    kokly, don't you give a damn? Selyuki.
  • BOB044
    BOB044 15 December 2020 10: 49
    0
    Press of Ukraine: Russia, weakened by the sanctions, may not be able to master the construction of 4 landing ships. Madman's dream
  • TermNachTer
    TermNachTer 15 December 2020 11: 23
    +1
    Well, the "yellow magazine" must at least write something))) there is nothing to write about your own, due to the lack of such, it means you need to write about Muscovites))))
  • Russs05
    Russs05 15 December 2020 12: 13
    +1
    Better to worry about your own Navy, rather than looking into someone else's pocket.
  • Good forester
    Good forester 15 December 2020 13: 02
    +1
    And the Sumerian superpower does not care whether Russia will master the order or not. Probably the toad is strangling. Russia will still master it, and with a margin. They have nothing of their own, they all screwed up.
  • Vic.
    Vic. 15 December 2020 13: 24
    +1
    Glory to the Russian Navy!
  • Sergey Russky
    Sergey Russky 15 December 2020 13: 40
    +1
    yes, send on you already ... NON-brothers
  • xomaNN
    xomaNN 15 December 2020 14: 01
    0
    The question is rather a rethinking and deep reworking of project 11711. Over a decade and a half since the initial design, the customers - the Navy have changed their views. And alterations, this time. So to the right the dates will move for sure
  • Suslin
    Suslin 15 December 2020 17: 48
    +1
    Ukropoprop has forgotten the saying: "To talk with your tongue - do not smear the wheels!"
  • ermak124.0
    ermak124.0 15 December 2020 17: 53
    0
    Well yes. Well, yes ... In the same way, we have not mastered other projects, which the pots do not even dare to dream of.
  • King3214
    King3214 16 December 2020 14: 09
    +1
    Ukraine, cuddled by the West, is not capable of building even one fragile boat. gee-gee-gee-gee
  • Tambov-there is god
    Tambov-there is god 16 December 2020 19: 13
    +1
    You shouldn't have paid attention to these Judas who betrayed Russia. Judas, after all, could also speak badly of Christ, trying to justify his betrayal.
  • Sergey Eliseev
    Sergey Eliseev 18 December 2020 11: 20
    0
    Interestingly, where did 40 submarines come from? Admiralty shipyards put into operation more than one diesel-electric submarine per year, but here at once 40. The author has immense imagination.
  • Abel
    Abel 18 December 2020 20: 17
    0
    Crimean bridge is also fake, cartoon. So let's finish building - wait for a visit