Russia demanded written guarantees of data confidentiality from the parties to the Open Skies Treaty

Russia demanded that the remaining parties to the Open Skies Treaty (OON) maintain the confidentiality of the data received and not transfer them to the United States, which had withdrawn from the Treaty. This was stated by the Russian delegation at the talks in Vienna.

The Russian delegation at the talks on military security and arms control demanded from the remaining OON members a written confirmation of the guarantee of the confidentiality of the data obtained during the observation flights.

Speaking at the final meeting, the representatives of Russia again drew attention to the problem of protecting data obtained during observation flights and recalled that the United States withdrew from the Treaty and should not receive this data.

In the context of the US withdrawal from the DON, participants are required to confirm in writing a commitment to guarantee their confidentiality

- said in the statement of the Russian delegation.

Recall that the US President Donald Trump announced the withdrawal of the United States from the Open Skies Treaty in May, saying that "it is outdated." On May 22, the head of the US State Department, Mike Pompeo, announced that the United States would leave the treaty in six months; on November 22, Washington finally withdrew from the treaty.

The Russian Foreign Ministry warned back in November that Russia would take tough measures against those countries that, remaining in the Open Skies Treaty, would transmit the information they received to the United States. According to information received by Moscow, the United States, having withdrawn from the treaty, is forcing the allies to sign an agreement on the transfer of data received by these countries during flights over Russia.

(...) Washington is playing an unscrupulous undercover game and is demanding that the allies sign documents according to which they will transfer to the United States the materials of their observation flights over Russia. (US) Demands Europeans Deny Russia Observation Flights Over American Military Objects In Europe

- said the head of the Russian delegation at the Vienna talks, Konstantin Gavrilov.

Comments

[ilya63]

interesting !!! (whether they passed it or not) How will this be controlled?

[Dimy4]

interesting !!! (whether they passed it or not) How will this be controlled?

They just ask, "Did you pass the data to the states?" And they will answer: "Of course not, how can you."

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Dimy4

They just ask, "Did you pass the data to the states?" And they will answer: "Of course not, how can you."

"How can you!" said the card-sharper, pulling two trump aces from his sleeve.

[fruc]

All this looks like a scam. Who will be a sucker is not difficult to guess.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: frruc

All this looks like a scam. Who will be a sucker is not difficult to guess.

Everything is easier than you think, go to the bazaar (there is still a scam there), and you will be convinced when you see who is "distributing" and who is "sucker". Any questions ??? I will answer.

[Starover_Z]

Quote: Dimy4

interesting !!! (whether they passed it or not) How will this be controlled?

They just ask, "Did you pass the data to the states?" And they will answer: "Of course not, how can you."

Well, of course ... We know, we were warned:

[dorz]

written guarantees of confidentiality ...

It's easier to ask your sworn friends to “swear by your mother”.

[nnm]

"Trust, ****, minus zero!"

[Vladimir Mashkov]

I read all the commentators and laugh a lot. Does any of the local humorists think that there no one to check? I suppose if there was no one, they would NOT sign! And you can always go out.

[Alex777]

IMHO our time is dragging on "until Biden". And he will either return to the Treaty (it is in conjunction with START-3) or we will finally withdraw.

[Vladimir Mashkov]

Clarification: ...there no OUR and no one to check?

[2 Level Advisor]

where exactly? in intelligence? or Agent Trump? well suppose:
1. Sent by unknown hackers or officially - Agent Smith, xs from which country, will help our agent a lot, if he is not the head of the CIA who has information on all agents?
2. Well, purely theoretically, we burned a CIA agent in Denmark on data transfer, then what will we do? Get upset?
3. How will we officially prove the transfer?
It is clear to everyone that the treaty is mainly of interest to the USA and the Russian Federation, the rest is for extras and that there are more flights over the Russian Federation, and the United States, I think so, and expects that the data flow will continue ... no..

[Maz]

And sho prevents them from signing it and transmitting data on the sly? By God, like little children

[sergey32]

How many times the Foreign Ministry has already spoken about the inability of the Western countries to negotiate, about the failure to fulfill its obligations. Why do we need their controllers, let them fly away in one known direction by five letters, four of which are "P, Z, D, A". "WEST", if anyone has not guessed.

[SRC P-15]

Russia demanded that the remaining parties to the Open Skies Treaty (OON) maintain the confidentiality of the data received and not transfer it to the United States that had withdrawn from the Treaty.

Wouldn't it be easier, just like the United States, to withdraw from the treaty? Let the Europeans themselves agree with the United States to renew the treaty if they need it!

[poquello]

Quote: СРЦ П-15

Wouldn't it be easier, just like the United States, to withdraw from the treaty? Let the Europeans themselves agree with the United States to renew the treaty if they need it!

as I understand - ours are not critical, but you can always leave due to disclosure, and figs will prove that they did not transmit

[Maikcg]

Not passed, listen, I swear by my mother!

[Starover_Z]

Quote: MaikCG

Not passed, listen, I swear by my mother!

Poor mother! With such children ...

[Maikcg]

Is this poor Englishwoman? (Lizka is the second)

[cniza]

In the context of the US withdrawal from the DON, participants are required to confirm in writing a commitment to guarantee their confidentiality

It's naive ...

[nnm]

Idiotic, rather.

[cniza]

You can say that, but you definitely can't do this, you have to go out ...

[Pilot]

Tell this to Putin, who ratified this treaty in 2001, and to Yeltsin because we signed this treaty in March 1992. When did they admit their mistakes? Here's the whole answer for you ... not for this they pulled the country into the global capital world through various treaties, in order to then move back to the Iron Curtain ...

[nnm]

Yes, the question is not in the conclusion and ratification, but in the fact that after the withdrawal of the United States, it was necessary to break this treaty on the same day.

[Pilot]

Quote: nnm

Yes, the question is not in the conclusion and ratification, but in the fact that after the withdrawal of the United States, it was necessary to break this treaty on the same day.

And if you look deeper?

[nnm]

Show a master - class, if not very difficult.

[Pilot]

I don't pretend to be a master, but I've already given a hint. Go for it.
PS these will whine to the last, but they will not get out of the contract.

[three]

Exactly! As an example - these signatures have long been under the Kiev "guarantees" to Yanukovych, and where is that Yanukovych with their guarantees?

[tihonmarine]

Quote: tros

and where is that Yanukovych with their guarantees?

He sits out near Rostov, without any authority. WHO IS NEXT.

[rocket757]

Quote: cniza

It's naive ...

But it's cool ... I know that you know that I know that you ...
This is more a step that denotes at least some kind of cooperation than really "big intelligence"!

[cniza]

We already have enough satellites to receive the same information ...

[rocket757]

Quote: cniza

We already have enough satellites to receive the same information ...

The methods are different ... the more there are, the more accurate the general understanding / knowledge of what is going on and with whom.

[cniza]

You can't argue with that, the United States left because the flight no longer gives an effect better than a satellite ...

[rocket757]

Everything is correct. Stripes roll the barrel onto our "Mordor" !!! Why should they show their voters that they all cooperate with us?
Nizya cooperate with the "muzzle"!

[cniza]

Here, here's the main thing for them to save the picture and earn money ...

[rocket757]

Nothing new, basically.
You are only to blame for the fact that they want to "eat" ....
But they didn’t eat Schaub, we had to go about our business, with all diligence.

[Fitter65]

In the context of the US withdrawal from the DON, participants are required to confirm in writing a commitment to guarantee their confidentiality

Yes, God, what nonsense, they will confirm both in writing and on the Bible to swear, but as the owner will give the command all at once and forget about the written agreements ...

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Fitter65

Yes, Lord, what nonsense, they will confirm both in writing and on the Bible to swear

I remember how Yanukovych was stroked on the back in Brussels, shook his hand, and a week later they handed over to the Banderaites. (True good man VVP, saved the poor fellow.)

[cat Rusich]

Quote: tihonmarine

I remember how Yanukovych was stroked on the back in Brussels, his hand was shaken,)

Your memory is failing you ...
The Eastern Partnership Summit was held on November 28-29, 2013 in Vilnius, Lithuania ...

[tihonmarine]

Quote: cat Rusich

Your memory is failing you ...
The Eastern Partnership Summit was held on November 28-29, 2013 in Vilnius, Lithuania.

Whether it's Vilnius or Brussels, don't you remember where this whole pack gathers every day for different reasons (although mostly to bark at Russia).

[Thrifty]

We need to get out of this agreement! And all the guarantees, written or written, are not worth the paper on which they are written, when the interests of Russia are affected, and there is an intention of the USA to shit on us where and as soon as they can! !!

[evgen1221]

I sincerely thank you for this act and bow low. The only thing left is not to recruit lawyers from Gazprom, so that they do not impose the text and obligations.

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

Do you think things are in lawyers ?!

Can't you see that all the courts in the West are biased and all decisions there are made to the detriment of Russia !!! If Gazprom had God himself in lawyers, he would have lost in these courts, because the decisions there are known in advance.

And with the "open sky" it will be the same, the United States has closed its sky for us, and ours will be viewed through its NATO allies and no agreements, no matter how they were written, will not help in this case !!!

If the USA withdrew from the treaty, then we have nothing to do there either !!!

[hagen]

Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan

If the USA withdrew from the treaty, then we have nothing to do there either !!!

I think ours are well aware that the European allies will not be able to refuse Big Brother, and in the end they will also withdraw from this agreement. But they will first try to push "partners" in NATO "honest" people on the table for violation of obligations. It's just a trap for the durak. As a version ... On the other hand, we obviously also have an interest in flying over the European theater of operations.

[evgen1221]

There is always a solution - here, like in a school class, how you put yourself, and will be treated in the future. China only hinted at similar attacks that lithium itself is lacking, so attacks on it on this topic were immediately blown away. We also have leverage - the same apples and fruit-and-berry products in the dachas of the population simply rot in the season - and we would be glad to hand over at least 3 kopecks to procurement offices - but they are not there - but at the same time we continue to buy vegetables for foreign currency all over the world, also with titanium and we don’t use a lot with something?

[Sergey39]

Probably, it would be worth waiting for the end of the epic with the elections in the United States, and then deciding this issue radically.

[Cron]

Russia demanded written guarantees

Ahahah))) There are also 35 states, there is no need to go to the grandmother, it is clear that someone will merge. I can even show with my finger who will do it on the basis of the principle: Great Britain, Poland, Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia. And like the cherry on the cake UKRAINE. These will immediately issue a written guarantee of 100% leakage of all data and even embellishment

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

It is foolish to count on any agreements with NATO countries. Of course they will transmit whatever data the US requests.

In my opinion, the United States withdrew from the open skies treaty, then we also have nothing to show our territory to NATO intelligence officers.

[svoit]

Quote: cniza

It's naive ...

Well, since you think so, then you can withdraw from the agreement, no obligation not to sign, what is happening in Europe, we will learn from Belarus

[7,62x54]

The signatures were collected there at the meeting?

[APASUS]

Russia demanded that the remaining parties to the Open Skies Treaty (OON) maintain the confidentiality of the data received and not transfer them to the United States, which had withdrawn from the Treaty. This was stated by the Russian delegation at the talks in Vienna.

Is it such naivety or stupidity already?
Look at the members of the Don, there are Ukraine, Poland, Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, Georgia, Sweden. Some countries are not just dependent on the United States, but are practically vassals.

[fa2998]

Quote: ilya63

interesting !!! (whether they passed it or not) How will this be controlled?

Ours play giveaway, and always lose. How can they transmit, after all, they are in the same military bloc (NATO). After all, the Americans share satellite data. There is not even at the level of the Ministry of Defense, there are special services, intelligence, everything is there. it was classified that they did not know in the neighboring offices. Even the events that the enemy could not know that the leak existed.

[tralflot1832]

Our people know perfectly well that they will merge, but demand that they sign it. Do you think that they will sign it, but not vzhist. It is clear for whom a flight over the points of the Strategic Missile Forces, do you think they will allow it? HA HA HA, not a flight.

[dedusik]

This is more true.

[Raven 95]

Even if we imagine for a second that all Europeans have become honest, and that they had no desire to transfer data to the United States, then what prevents an American spy from stealing this data. (This is according to the official version for the justification in front of the Russians).

[megadeth]

Europe, the American mongrel, what they say and give ... And as usual, they will deceive us, and impose sanctions. Until we answer harshly to all Western arrivals, so they will dunk us in ...

[fiberboard]

Confidentiality? May I laugh? They are all in NATO. It looks like an anecdote about Vasily Ivanovich that gentlemen take their word for it.

[iouris]

It was then that they flooded.

[Prisoner]

In my opinion, this is the highest degree of naivety. Yes, even if you paste over these guarantees, our "partners" will leak information to their overlord at his first request. The mattress makers probably staked on this when they left the contract. And they will find ways to make their vassals share the data. Tea is not the first time.

[tolancop]

People, maybe it's enough to write obvious things? There are quite intelligent people in the General Staff and they know the price of bourgeois guarantees perfectly !!! The fact that the "Open Skies" skiff is already clear. But then there is such a case to make fun of and at least slightly knock amers and Europeans against their heads .... "Russia agrees to extend, but under certain conditions" ... and even the conditions to demand such that they are not accepted is a matter of technology. Of course, Russia will be made to blame in any case, but the bourgeois howl will be much stronger if Russia itself refuses to participate in the "Open Skies".

[Lionnvrsk]

Quote: tolancop

People, maybe it's enough to write obvious things? There are quite intelligent people in the General Staff and they know the price of bourgeois guarantees perfectly !!! The fact that the "Open Skies" skiff is already clear. But then there is such a case to make fun of and at least slightly knock the heads of the amers and the Europeans ... "Russia agrees to extend, but under certain conditions" ... and the conditions to demand such

Well, I think about the same.
And for some, righteous anger pours over the edge!

[rocket757]

Indeed, nothing and in any way it will not save .... in general, it can turn out cool.

[Herman 4223]

This is treason in my opinion. The transmission of such information cannot be traced. The United States will receive it in full, there is no doubt about it. If the United States withdraws from the treaty, then the right to fly should be excluded for all its allies.

[Normal]

Oh well ... what a kindergarten. They overthrow governments if they need to. How can you believe that, at least a hundred times in writing, guaranteed that henchmen from Europe will not transmit information to the striped ones? They will order and they will betray everything, they will tie another bow

[dedusik]

You read some commentators and you get the feeling that they are the heads of the General Staff, and not trampled on in the clave.

[Avior]

Some kind of childishness.
The agreement does not provide for any promises, which means they can transmit information.
If you do not want this, you just need to withdraw from the contract and not play "give me my word".

[Old26]

Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan

If the USA withdrew from the treaty, then we have nothing to do there either !!!

There is nothing? And there is no need to keep America's European allies under control. After all, the same Poland is not a state in terms of area. The Poles will not be able to relocate or hide anything.

[Tank hard]

Russia demanded that the remaining parties to the Open Skies Treaty (OON) maintain the confidentiality of the data received and not transfer them to the United States, which had withdrawn from the Treaty. This was stated by the Russian delegation at the talks in Vienna

Thank you, made fun.
There have already been some stories with Stoltenberg, and recently with the vaccine and Macron, in which private conversations were voiced after conversations. Or maybe someone just loves to step on the mop?

[Rurikovich]

Hmmm, I thought that Russia would act smarter ...
Already how many dishes have been broken about the fact that the West is NOT-TO-GO-IN-RO-SPO-CO-BEN !!!!
Shame on me personally to the Foreign Ministry

[Zurbagan]

In my personal opinion, Russia's "demand" is not naive at all - it is deeply idiotic and pathetic at the same time. Ugh!

[tralflot1832]

In 2014, Google probably overdid it, I do not know for whom they laid out satellite maps of Sochi. Knowing where what is located could be counted to exactly one car. Knowing my site I could find a doghouse and boards leaning against the wall. Hourly we were lazy.

[iouris]

Ha. Ha. Ha. What more can be said?
Withdraw from all contracts. Urgently.

[faterdom]

Why do we need all this?
Image?
Why do we need that image?
And what about the image for us to be respected and loved, because of our great image?
And if not, then what?
That's right - it means that we still need to work on strengthening the image! First, apologize, admit some guilt - and work! And pay in some other pass for 10 years in advance, so that they do not deny themselves anything?
No - it's time to finish, for a start with such a State Duma, and then we'll see ... If they don't want to serve our people, let them go through the forest.

[Dimy4]

But they may not transmit, but put it in such a way that the staff will just pass by and take it themselves.

[BAI]

for participants to confirm in writing a commitment to guarantee their confidentiality

Right. In words, they have already promised everything. Both Gorbachev and Putin. It is good that Putin decided not to step twice on the same rake.

[victor_47]

Who is stepping on this rake now?

[_Ugene_]

Russia demanded written guarantees of data confidentiality from the parties to the Open Skies Treaty

and what's the point? how to track the implementation of this item? transmitted over encrypted channels and that's it

[faiver]

Why are these dances with tambourines? Withdraw from the contract and the whole short-lived ...

[victor_47]

"Russia demanded that the remaining parties to the Open Skies Treaty (OON) maintain the confidentiality of the data received and not transfer them to the United States, which had withdrawn from the Treaty."
Amazing naivety, bordering on clinical stupidity!

[gsev]

It would be more correct to close the territory of Siberia and the Far East for the rest of the participants. This may need to be done if Biden does not return the US to the open skies treaty.

[ljoha_d]

What nonsense, what do our generals think, they point a finger at us and say that we are enemies, the main restless candidate leaves the treaty, and his sixes remain, what's the point of such agreements, everything will merge. So our borders are full of ovish technology

[aszzz888]

The Russian Foreign Ministry warned back in November that Russia will take tough measures in respect of those countries that, remaining in the Open Skies Treaty, will transmit the information received to the United States.

Express concerns? Definitely the allys will supply the Merikatos with info!

[72jora72]

Russia demanded that the remaining members of the Open Skies Treaty (OON) maintain the confidentiality of the data received and not transfer it to the United States,

Daragoy! So I will write, I swear by my mother!

[Calm]

All quietly drain the country, it remains to give the keys to nuclear weapons, from the inside is already a country without education, agriculture, medicine and other

[Alexey from Perm]

It seems that the conclusion suggests itself, go out and that's it ... but for some reason they are pulling, strange ...

[ZVS]

This is state idiocy. When did written guarantees stop the West? It is like taking written guarantees from Erdogan of eternal friendship with Russia.

[iouris]

They asked for guarantees, and even congratulated Biden. Where is the world heading?

[Graduate student]

Russia demanded written guarantees

What is the use of written guarantees if the West does not respect anything, not even international law. Plus, if they do pass on information to the US, what will we do?

[Graduate student]

Washington is playing a dirty undercover game

Has it ever been otherwise?