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Russia demanded written guarantees of data confidentiality from the parties to the Open Skies Treaty

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Russia demanded written guarantees of data confidentiality from the parties to the Open Skies Treaty

Russia demanded that the remaining parties to the Open Skies Treaty (OON) maintain the confidentiality of the data received and not transfer them to the United States, which had withdrawn from the Treaty. This was stated by the Russian delegation at the talks in Vienna.


The Russian delegation at the talks on military security and arms control demanded from the remaining OON members a written confirmation of the guarantee of the confidentiality of the data obtained during the observation flights.

Speaking at the final meeting, the representatives of Russia again drew attention to the problem of protecting data obtained during observation flights and recalled that the United States withdrew from the Treaty and should not receive this data.

In the context of the US withdrawal from the DON, participants are required to confirm in writing a commitment to guarantee their confidentiality

- said in the statement of the Russian delegation.

Recall that the US President Donald Trump announced the withdrawal of the United States from the Open Skies Treaty in May, saying that "it is outdated." On May 22, the head of the US State Department, Mike Pompeo, announced that the United States would leave the treaty in six months; on November 22, Washington finally withdrew from the treaty.

The Russian Foreign Ministry warned back in November that Russia would take tough measures against those countries that, remaining in the Open Skies Treaty, would transmit the information they received to the United States. According to information received by Moscow, the United States, having withdrawn from the treaty, is forcing the allies to sign an agreement on the transfer of data received by these countries during flights over Russia.

(...) Washington is playing an unscrupulous undercover game and is demanding that the allies sign documents according to which they will transfer to the United States the materials of their observation flights over Russia. (US) Demands Europeans Deny Russia Observation Flights Over American Military Objects In Europe

- said the head of the Russian delegation at the Vienna talks, Konstantin Gavrilov.
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  1. ilya63
    ilya63 14 December 2020 16: 35
    +35
    interesting !!! (whether they passed it or not) How will this be controlled?
    1. Dimy4
      Dimy4 14 December 2020 16: 37
      +52
      interesting !!! (whether they passed it or not) How will this be controlled?

      They just ask, "Did you pass the data to the states?" And they will answer: "Of course not, how can you." lol
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 14 December 2020 16: 44
        +19
        Quote: Dimy4
        They just ask, "Did you pass the data to the states?" And they will answer: "Of course not, how can you."

        "How can you!" said the card-sharper, pulling two trump aces from his sleeve.
        1. frruc
          frruc 14 December 2020 21: 35
          +7
          All this looks like a scam. Who will be a sucker is not difficult to guess. sad
          1. tihonmarine
            tihonmarine 14 December 2020 22: 05
            0
            Quote: frruc
            All this looks like a scam. Who will be a sucker is not difficult to guess.

            Everything is easier than you think, go to the bazaar (there is still a scam there), and you will be convinced when you see who is "distributing" and who is "sucker". Any questions ??? I will answer.
      2. Starover_Z
        Starover_Z 14 December 2020 17: 05
        +10
        Quote: Dimy4
        interesting !!! (whether they passed it or not) How will this be controlled?

        They just ask, "Did you pass the data to the states?" And they will answer: "Of course not, how can you." lol

        Well, of course ... We know, we were warned:
        1. dorz
          dorz 14 December 2020 17: 10
          +5
          written guarantees of confidentiality ...

          It's easier to ask your sworn friends to “swear by your mother”. sad
        2. nnm
          nnm 14 December 2020 17: 36
          -3

          "Trust, ****, minus zero!"
          1. Vladimir Mashkov
            Vladimir Mashkov 14 December 2020 19: 39
            -6
            I read all the commentators and laugh a lot. Does any of the local humorists think that there no one to check? I suppose if there was no one, they would NOT sign! And you can always go out.
            1. Alex777
              Alex777 14 December 2020 20: 45
              +4
              IMHO our time is dragging on "until Biden". And he will either return to the Treaty (it is in conjunction with START-3) or we will finally withdraw.
            2. Vladimir Mashkov
              Vladimir Mashkov 14 December 2020 21: 26
              0
              Clarification: ...there no OUR and no one to check?
              1. 2 Level Advisor
                2 Level Advisor 16 December 2020 14: 04
                -1
                where exactly? in intelligence? or Agent Trump? well suppose:
                1. Sent by unknown hackers or officially - Agent Smith, xs from which country, will help our agent a lot, if he is not the head of the CIA who has information on all agents?
                2. Well, purely theoretically, we burned a CIA agent in Denmark on data transfer, then what will we do? Get upset?
                3. How will we officially prove the transfer?
                It is clear to everyone that the treaty is mainly of interest to the USA and the Russian Federation, the rest is for extras and that there are more flights over the Russian Federation, and the United States, I think so, and expects that the data flow will continue ... no..
    2. Maz
      Maz 14 December 2020 16: 39
      +15
      And sho prevents them from signing it and transmitting data on the sly? By God, like little children
      1. sergey32
        sergey32 14 December 2020 17: 32
        +17
        How many times the Foreign Ministry has already spoken about the inability of the Western countries to negotiate, about the failure to fulfill its obligations. Why do we need their controllers, let them fly away in one known direction by five letters, four of which are "P, Z, D, A". "WEST", if anyone has not guessed.
    3. SRC P-15
      SRC P-15 14 December 2020 16: 39
      +18
      Russia demanded that the remaining parties to the Open Skies Treaty (OON) maintain the confidentiality of the data received and not transfer it to the United States that had withdrawn from the Treaty.

      Wouldn't it be easier, just like the United States, to withdraw from the treaty? Let the Europeans themselves agree with the United States to renew the treaty if they need it! yes
      1. poquello
        poquello 14 December 2020 17: 04
        +2
        Quote: СРЦ П-15
        Wouldn't it be easier, just like the United States, to withdraw from the treaty? Let the Europeans themselves agree with the United States to renew the treaty if they need it!

        as I understand - ours are not critical, but you can always leave due to disclosure, and figs will prove that they did not transmit
    4. Maikcg
      Maikcg 14 December 2020 16: 40
      +11
      Not passed, listen, I swear by my mother!
      1. Starover_Z
        Starover_Z 14 December 2020 17: 06
        +6
        Quote: MaikCG
        Not passed, listen, I swear by my mother!

        Poor mother! With such children ...
        1. Maikcg
          Maikcg 15 December 2020 13: 12
          0
          Is this poor Englishwoman? (Lizka is the second)
  2. cniza
    cniza 14 December 2020 16: 35
    +10
    In the context of the US withdrawal from the DON, participants are required to confirm in writing a commitment to guarantee their confidentiality


    It's naive ...
    1. nnm
      nnm 14 December 2020 16: 38
      +9
      Idiotic, rather.
      1. cniza
        cniza 14 December 2020 17: 15
        +4
        You can say that, but you definitely can't do this, you have to go out ...
      2. Pilot
        Pilot 14 December 2020 17: 16
        -3
        Tell this to Putin, who ratified this treaty in 2001, and to Yeltsin because we signed this treaty in March 1992. When did they admit their mistakes? Here's the whole answer for you ... not for this they pulled the country into the global capital world through various treaties, in order to then move back to the Iron Curtain ...
        1. nnm
          nnm 14 December 2020 17: 30
          +3
          Yes, the question is not in the conclusion and ratification, but in the fact that after the withdrawal of the United States, it was necessary to break this treaty on the same day.
          1. Pilot
            Pilot 14 December 2020 17: 34
            -4
            Quote: nnm
            Yes, the question is not in the conclusion and ratification, but in the fact that after the withdrawal of the United States, it was necessary to break this treaty on the same day.

            And if you look deeper?
            1. nnm
              nnm 14 December 2020 17: 37
              +2
              Show a master - class, if not very difficult.
              1. Pilot
                Pilot 14 December 2020 17: 40
                -5
                I don't pretend to be a master, but I've already given a hint. Go for it. hi
                PS these will whine to the last, but they will not get out of the contract.
      3. three
        three 14 December 2020 22: 26
        0
        Exactly! As an example - these signatures have long been under the Kiev "guarantees" to Yanukovych, and where is that Yanukovych with their guarantees?
        1. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 14 December 2020 22: 37
          0
          Quote: tros
          and where is that Yanukovych with their guarantees?

          He sits out near Rostov, without any authority. WHO IS NEXT.
    2. rocket757
      rocket757 14 December 2020 17: 11
      +1
      Quote: cniza
      It's naive ...

      But it's cool ... I know that you know that I know that you ...
      This is more a step that denotes at least some kind of cooperation than really "big intelligence"!
      1. cniza
        cniza 14 December 2020 17: 16
        +2
        We already have enough satellites to receive the same information ...
        1. rocket757
          rocket757 14 December 2020 17: 19
          +3
          Quote: cniza
          We already have enough satellites to receive the same information ...

          The methods are different ... the more there are, the more accurate the general understanding / knowledge of what is going on and with whom.
          1. cniza
            cniza 14 December 2020 17: 39
            +2
            You can't argue with that, the United States left because the flight no longer gives an effect better than a satellite ...
            1. rocket757
              rocket757 14 December 2020 19: 01
              +2
              Everything is correct. Stripes roll the barrel onto our "Mordor" !!! Why should they show their voters that they all cooperate with us?
              Nizya cooperate with the "muzzle"!
              1. cniza
                cniza 14 December 2020 20: 51
                +3
                Here, here's the main thing for them to save the picture and earn money ...
                1. rocket757
                  rocket757 15 December 2020 09: 41
                  +1
                  Nothing new, basically.
                  You are only to blame for the fact that they want to "eat" ....
                  But they didn’t eat Schaub, we had to go about our business, with all diligence.
  3. Fitter65
    Fitter65 14 December 2020 16: 37
    +7
    In the context of the US withdrawal from the DON, participants are required to confirm in writing a commitment to guarantee their confidentiality

    Yes, God, what nonsense, they will confirm both in writing and on the Bible to swear, but as the owner will give the command all at once and forget about the written agreements ...
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 14 December 2020 16: 47
      0
      Quote: Fitter65
      Yes, Lord, what nonsense, they will confirm both in writing and on the Bible to swear

      I remember how Yanukovych was stroked on the back in Brussels, shook his hand, and a week later they handed over to the Banderaites. (True good man VVP, saved the poor fellow.)
      1. cat Rusich
        cat Rusich 14 December 2020 20: 52
        +1
        Quote: tihonmarine

        I remember how Yanukovych was stroked on the back in Brussels, his hand was shaken,)
        Your memory is failing you ...
        The Eastern Partnership Summit was held on November 28-29, 2013 in Vilnius, Lithuania ... yes
        1. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 14 December 2020 21: 11
          0
          Quote: cat Rusich
          Your memory is failing you ...
          The Eastern Partnership Summit was held on November 28-29, 2013 in Vilnius, Lithuania.

          Whether it's Vilnius or Brussels, don't you remember where this whole pack gathers every day for different reasons (although mostly to bark at Russia).
  4. Thrifty
    Thrifty 14 December 2020 16: 37
    +10
    We need to get out of this agreement! And all the guarantees, written or written, are not worth the paper on which they are written, when the interests of Russia are affected, and there is an intention of the USA to shit on us where and as soon as they can! !!
  5. evgen1221
    evgen1221 14 December 2020 16: 38
    -6
    I sincerely thank you for this act and bow low. The only thing left is not to recruit lawyers from Gazprom, so that they do not impose the text and obligations.
    1. Ratmir_Ryazan
      Ratmir_Ryazan 14 December 2020 16: 49
      +10
      Do you think things are in lawyers ?!

      Can't you see that all the courts in the West are biased and all decisions there are made to the detriment of Russia !!! If Gazprom had God himself in lawyers, he would have lost in these courts, because the decisions there are known in advance.

      And with the "open sky" it will be the same, the United States has closed its sky for us, and ours will be viewed through its NATO allies and no agreements, no matter how they were written, will not help in this case !!!

      If the USA withdrew from the treaty, then we have nothing to do there either !!!
      1. Hagen
        Hagen 14 December 2020 17: 48
        +2
        Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan
        If the USA withdrew from the treaty, then we have nothing to do there either !!!

        I think ours are well aware that the European allies will not be able to refuse Big Brother, and in the end they will also withdraw from this agreement. But they will first try to push "partners" in NATO "honest" people on the table for violation of obligations. It's just a trap for the durak. As a version ... On the other hand, we obviously also have an interest in flying over the European theater of operations.
      2. evgen1221
        evgen1221 14 December 2020 17: 50
        -2
        There is always a solution - here, like in a school class, how you put yourself, and will be treated in the future. China only hinted at similar attacks that lithium itself is lacking, so attacks on it on this topic were immediately blown away. We also have leverage - the same apples and fruit-and-berry products in the dachas of the population simply rot in the season - and we would be glad to hand over at least 3 kopecks to procurement offices - but they are not there - but at the same time we continue to buy vegetables for foreign currency all over the world, also with titanium and we don’t use a lot with something?
  6. Sergey39
    Sergey39 14 December 2020 16: 39
    +1
    Probably, it would be worth waiting for the end of the epic with the elections in the United States, and then deciding this issue radically.
  7. Cron
    Cron 14 December 2020 16: 42
    +1
    Russia demanded written guarantees

    Ahahah))) There are also 35 states, there is no need to go to the grandmother, it is clear that someone will merge. I can even show with my finger who will do it on the basis of the principle: Great Britain, Poland, Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia. And like the cherry on the cake UKRAINE. These will immediately issue a written guarantee of 100% leakage of all data and even embellishment
  8. Ratmir_Ryazan
    Ratmir_Ryazan 14 December 2020 16: 43
    +4
    It is foolish to count on any agreements with NATO countries. Of course they will transmit whatever data the US requests.

    In my opinion, the United States withdrew from the open skies treaty, then we also have nothing to show our territory to NATO intelligence officers.
  9. svoit
    svoit 14 December 2020 16: 46
    +1
    Quote: cniza

    It's naive ...

    Well, since you think so, then you can withdraw from the agreement, no obligation not to sign, what is happening in Europe, we will learn from Belarus
  10. 7,62x54
    7,62x54 14 December 2020 16: 48
    +1
    The signatures were collected there at the meeting?
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  12. APASUS
    APASUS 14 December 2020 16: 49
    +5
    Russia demanded that the remaining parties to the Open Skies Treaty (OON) maintain the confidentiality of the data received and not transfer them to the United States, which had withdrawn from the Treaty. This was stated by the Russian delegation at the talks in Vienna.

    Is it such naivety or stupidity already?
    Look at the members of the Don, there are Ukraine, Poland, Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, Georgia, Sweden. Some countries are not just dependent on the United States, but are practically vassals.
  13. fa2998
    fa2998 14 December 2020 16: 50
    +5
    Quote: ilya63
    interesting !!! (whether they passed it or not) How will this be controlled?

    Ours play giveaway, and always lose. How can they transmit, after all, they are in the same military bloc (NATO). After all, the Americans share satellite data. There is not even at the level of the Ministry of Defense, there are special services, intelligence, everything is there. it was classified that they did not know in the neighboring offices. Even the events that the enemy could not know that the leak existed. hi
  14. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 14 December 2020 16: 50
    +5
    Our people know perfectly well that they will merge, but demand that they sign it. Do you think that they will sign it, but not vzhist. It is clear for whom a flight over the points of the Strategic Missile Forces, do you think they will allow it? HA HA HA, not a flight.
    1. dedusik
      dedusik 14 December 2020 17: 38
      +1
      This is more true.
  15. Raven 95
    Raven 95 14 December 2020 16: 52
    +7
    Even if we imagine for a second that all Europeans have become honest, and that they had no desire to transfer data to the United States, then what prevents an American spy from stealing this data. (This is according to the official version for the justification in front of the Russians).
  16. megadeth
    megadeth 14 December 2020 16: 53
    0
    Europe, the American mongrel, what they say and give ... And as usual, they will deceive us, and impose sanctions. Until we answer harshly to all Western arrivals, so they will dunk us in ...
  17. fiberboard
    fiberboard 14 December 2020 16: 54
    +1
    Confidentiality? May I laugh? They are all in NATO. It looks like an anecdote about Vasily Ivanovich that gentlemen take their word for it.
    1. iouris
      iouris 14 December 2020 22: 49
      -1
      It was then that they flooded.
  18. Prisoner
    Prisoner 14 December 2020 16: 55
    +2
    In my opinion, this is the highest degree of naivety. Yes, even if you paste over these guarantees, our "partners" will leak information to their overlord at his first request. The mattress makers probably staked on this when they left the contract. And they will find ways to make their vassals share the data. Tea is not the first time.
  19. tolancop
    tolancop 14 December 2020 17: 02
    +9
    People, maybe it's enough to write obvious things? There are quite intelligent people in the General Staff and they know the price of bourgeois guarantees perfectly !!! The fact that the "Open Skies" skiff is already clear. But then there is such a case to make fun of and at least slightly knock amers and Europeans against their heads .... "Russia agrees to extend, but under certain conditions" ... and even the conditions to demand such that they are not accepted is a matter of technology. Of course, Russia will be made to blame in any case, but the bourgeois howl will be much stronger if Russia itself refuses to participate in the "Open Skies".
    1. Lionnvrsk
      Lionnvrsk 14 December 2020 17: 09
      0
      Quote: tolancop
      People, maybe it's enough to write obvious things? There are quite intelligent people in the General Staff and they know the price of bourgeois guarantees perfectly !!! The fact that the "Open Skies" skiff is already clear. But then there is such a case to make fun of and at least slightly knock the heads of the amers and the Europeans ... "Russia agrees to extend, but under certain conditions" ... and the conditions to demand such

      Well, I think about the same. hi
      And for some, righteous anger pours over the edge! yes
    2. rocket757
      rocket757 14 December 2020 17: 12
      +1
      Indeed, nothing and in any way it will not save .... in general, it can turn out cool.
  20. Herman 4223
    Herman 4223 14 December 2020 17: 15
    0
    This is treason in my opinion. The transmission of such information cannot be traced. The United States will receive it in full, there is no doubt about it. If the United States withdraws from the treaty, then the right to fly should be excluded for all its allies.
  21. Normal
    Normal 14 December 2020 17: 20
    +3
    Oh well ... what a kindergarten. They overthrow governments if they need to. How can you believe that, at least a hundred times in writing, guaranteed that henchmen from Europe will not transmit information to the striped ones? They will order and they will betray everything, they will tie another bow
    1. dedusik
      dedusik 14 December 2020 17: 42
      +1
      You read some commentators and you get the feeling that they are the heads of the General Staff, and not trampled on in the clave. bully
  22. Avior
    Avior 14 December 2020 17: 45
    +3
    Some kind of childishness.
    The agreement does not provide for any promises, which means they can transmit information.
    If you do not want this, you just need to withdraw from the contract and not play "give me my word".
  23. Old26
    Old26 14 December 2020 17: 47
    +2
    Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan
    If the USA withdrew from the treaty, then we have nothing to do there either !!!

    There is nothing? And there is no need to keep America's European allies under control. After all, the same Poland is not a state in terms of area. The Poles will not be able to relocate or hide anything.
  24. Tank hard
    Tank hard 14 December 2020 17: 47
    +1
    Russia demanded that the remaining parties to the Open Skies Treaty (OON) maintain the confidentiality of the data received and not transfer them to the United States, which had withdrawn from the Treaty. This was stated by the Russian delegation at the talks in Vienna

    Thank you, made fun. laughing
    There have already been some stories with Stoltenberg, and recently with the vaccine and Macron, in which private conversations were voiced after conversations. Or maybe someone just loves to step on the mop? request
  25. Rurikovich
    Rurikovich 14 December 2020 17: 51
    0
    Hmmm, I thought that Russia would act smarter ... fool
    Already how many dishes have been broken about the fact that the West is NOT-TO-GO-IN-RO-SPO-CO-BEN !!!! request
    Shame on me personally to the Foreign Ministry negative
  26. Zurbagan
    Zurbagan 14 December 2020 18: 13
    +2
    In my personal opinion, Russia's "demand" is not naive at all - it is deeply idiotic and pathetic at the same time. Ugh!
  27. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 14 December 2020 18: 20
    0
    In 2014, Google probably overdid it, I do not know for whom they laid out satellite maps of Sochi. Knowing where what is located could be counted to exactly one car. Knowing my site I could find a doghouse and boards leaning against the wall. Hourly we were lazy.
  28. iouris
    iouris 14 December 2020 18: 20
    -1
    Ha. Ha. Ha. What more can be said?
    Withdraw from all contracts. Urgently.
  29. faterdom
    faterdom 14 December 2020 18: 37
    0
    Why do we need all this?
    Image?
    Why do we need that image?
    And what about the image for us to be respected and loved, because of our great image?
    And if not, then what?
    That's right - it means that we still need to work on strengthening the image! First, apologize, admit some guilt - and work! And pay in some other pass for 10 years in advance, so that they do not deny themselves anything?
    No - it's time to finish, for a start with such a State Duma, and then we'll see ... If they don't want to serve our people, let them go through the forest.
  30. Dimy4
    Dimy4 14 December 2020 18: 47
    0
    But they may not transmit, but put it in such a way that the staff will just pass by and take it themselves.
  31. BAI
    BAI 14 December 2020 18: 52
    0
    for participants to confirm in writing a commitment to guarantee their confidentiality

    Right. In words, they have already promised everything. Both Gorbachev and Putin. It is good that Putin decided not to step twice on the same rake.
    1. viktor_47
      viktor_47 14 December 2020 23: 35
      0
      Who is stepping on this rake now?
  32. _Ugene_
    _Ugene_ 14 December 2020 20: 31
    0
    Russia demanded written guarantees of data confidentiality from the parties to the Open Skies Treaty
    and what's the point? how to track the implementation of this item? transmitted over encrypted channels and that's it
  33. rudolff
    rudolff 14 December 2020 22: 11
    +1
    This reminds me of how we demanded written guarantees that the European missile defense system would not be directed against Russia. This is not even naivety, this is a dense stubbornness. How can a bunch of NATO members be obliged not to share military intelligence with other NATO members or with the alliance itself? They simply have to do it!
  34. faiver
    faiver 14 December 2020 22: 18
    0
    Why are these dances with tambourines? Withdraw from the contract and the whole short-lived ...
  35. viktor_47
    viktor_47 14 December 2020 23: 33
    0
    "Russia demanded that the remaining parties to the Open Skies Treaty (OON) maintain the confidentiality of the data received and not transfer them to the United States, which had withdrawn from the Treaty."
    Amazing naivety, bordering on clinical stupidity!
  36. gsev
    gsev 15 December 2020 00: 43
    0
    It would be more correct to close the territory of Siberia and the Far East for the rest of the participants. This may need to be done if Biden does not return the US to the open skies treaty.
  37. ljoha_d
    ljoha_d 15 December 2020 00: 45
    0
    What nonsense, what do our generals think, they point a finger at us and say that we are enemies, the main restless candidate leaves the treaty, and his sixes remain, what's the point of such agreements, everything will merge. So our borders are full of ovish technology
  38. aszzz888
    aszzz888 15 December 2020 02: 09
    0
    The Russian Foreign Ministry warned back in November that Russia will take tough measures in respect of those countries that, remaining in the Open Skies Treaty, will transmit the information received to the United States.
    Express concerns? Definitely the allys will supply the Merikatos with info!
  39. 72jora72
    72jora72 15 December 2020 04: 26
    0
    Russia demanded that the remaining members of the Open Skies Treaty (OON) maintain the confidentiality of the data received and not transfer it to the United States,
    Daragoy! So I will write, I swear by my mother!
  40. Calm
    Calm 15 December 2020 07: 46
    +1
    All quietly drain the country, it remains to give the keys to nuclear weapons, from the inside is already a country without education, agriculture, medicine and other
  41. Alexey from Perm
    Alexey from Perm 15 December 2020 08: 40
    -1
    It seems that the conclusion suggests itself, go out and that's it ... but for some reason they are pulling, strange ...
  42. ZVS
    ZVS 15 December 2020 16: 11
    0
    This is state idiocy. When did written guarantees stop the West? It is like taking written guarantees from Erdogan of eternal friendship with Russia.
  43. iouris
    iouris 15 December 2020 16: 29
    0
    They asked for guarantees, and even congratulated Biden. Where is the world heading?
  44. Graduate student
    Graduate student 21 December 2020 15: 17
    +17
    Russia demanded written guarantees

    What is the use of written guarantees if the West does not respect anything, not even international law. Plus, if they do pass on information to the US, what will we do?
  45. Graduate student
    Graduate student 21 December 2020 15: 19
    +17
    Washington is playing a dirty undercover game

    Has it ever been otherwise? laughing