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Turkey comments on Aliyev's words about the future location of the Russian-Turkish monitoring center in Agdam

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Foreign information sources report on the statement of the President of Azerbaijan Ilham Aliyev, made during the meeting with representatives of the Minsk Group for the settlement of the conflict in Nagorno-Karabakh. On December 12, the Azerbaijani leader announced that the Russian-Turkish joint monitoring center will be located in the city of Agdam.


This city was under the control of the unrecognized Nagorno-Karabakh Republic for 27 years, and on November 20, 2020, on the basis of a trilateral agreement, came under Azerbaijani control.

Ilham Aliyev:

This is already a reality. This is a symbol of suitable Russian-Turkish cooperation.

Turkey itself is commenting on the statement of the Azerbaijani president. In particular, it is noted that the process of "the appearance of Turkish military observers is being delayed." It is recalled that the Turkish parliament, at the request of the country's President Recep Tayyip Erdogan, authorized the possibility of a military stay of the Turkish military abroad (in Azerbaijan) on November 17. The document allows the Turkish military to stay in Azerbaijan for a period of one year with a possible extension.

Turkish publications react differently to where and in what format the Turkish presence in Azerbaijan will be carried out. In particular, it is pointed out that for Turkey in this case "it is extremely important to ensure uninterrupted operation of the Baku-Tbilisi-Ceyhan oil pipeline."

From the point of view of the effectiveness of such control, Aghdam is called "the most successful station for Turkish military observers."
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website of the president of Azerbaijan
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  1. Thrall
    Thrall 14 December 2020 10: 30
    +1
    In the context of the agreement, it was also reported about the intention to create a joint Russian-Turkish monitoring center of the situation in the region. on the territory of Azerbaijan, remote from the conflict zone... However, this was not specified separately in the agreements.

    Aliyev, elated by his successes, runs ahead of the locomotive
    1. Polymer
      Polymer 14 December 2020 14: 51
      0
      Quote: Thrall
      Aliyev, elated by his successes, runs ahead of the locomotive

      So him locomotive Erdogan is pushing.
      On the subject: Turkey cannot play the role of a peacemaker, since from the very beginning it clearly and very actively supported one of the parties to the conflict. Therefore, there is no mention of it in the tripartite agreement.
  2. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 14 December 2020 10: 33
    +2
    In this case, it is extremely important for Turkey to ensure uninterrupted operation of the Baku-Tbilisi-Ceyhan oil pipeline.
    And no one doubted that Turkey is not interested in peace in this region, but in its own selfish interests.
    1. saigon
      saigon 14 December 2020 11: 00
      +2
      Well, what's new, always your own interests, and a beautiful cover like peace in the region, stability and development, we will stop anyone or whatever will always appear.
      Not one is going to say directly - we came to rob you of such creatures.
    2. Bilal
      Bilal 14 December 2020 11: 19
      -2
      rotmistr60 (Gennady)

      And no one doubted that Turkey is not interested in peace in this region, but in its own selfish interests.


      Do you want to say that Russia rushed to the region solely because of its peacefulness? And does not have "selfish" interests? All who desperately want to go to the region have interests here. Military, economic, geopolitical, etc.
      1. Insurgent
        Insurgent 14 December 2020 11: 24
        +10
        Quote: Bilal
        Do you want to say that Russia rushed to the region solely because of its peacefulness?

        She did not rush, but returned. And in the light of the events that happened, not quite so, and not under such circumstances as she would like.
        Quote: Bilal
        All who desperately want to go to the region have interests here. Military, economic, geopolitical, etc.

        Still not wanting ... These are the territories of the former Republic of Ingushetia and the USSR, to which the interests of the Russian Federation are historically and missionary.
        1. Bilal
          Bilal 14 December 2020 11: 34
          -9
          Quote: Insurgent
          She did not rush, but returned.


          On yours returned. In my opinion, it rushed as soon as favorable circumstances were created. In my opinion, this has long been agreed between V.V.P and I.G.A. Probably everyone remembers the photos and videos of the MS forces at the Ulyanovsk airport 2-3 days before the announcement of the known agreements.

          Quote: Insurgent
          Still not want to ... These are the territories of the former Republic of Ingushetia and the USSR


          Territories which, as a result of "selfish" interests of the Republic of Ingushetia and the USSR, became theirs. In the common people this is called TAKING ...
          1. Insurgent
            Insurgent 14 December 2020 11: 37
            +8
            Quote: Bilal

            Territories which, as a result of "selfish" interests of the Republic of Ingushetia and the USSR, became theirs. In the common people this is called TAKING ...

            I will not call it, as the common people say, "historians" like you. There are many epithets, and all of them are not flattering.
          2. Alex777
            Alex777 14 December 2020 11: 44
            +3
            Territories which, as a result of "selfish" interests of the Republic of Ingushetia and the USSR, became theirs. In the common people this is called TAKING ...

            What country did you teach history at school? wink
            How many times has Georgia, represented by its rulers, asked to be admitted to Russia? For a long time Russia did not agree. And then because of the Georgians, and not for any other reason, I had to fight with the Caucasus. To pave the way between Russia and Georgia.
            This is to the question of how Russia ended up in the Transcaucasus. bully
          3. tihonmarine
            tihonmarine 14 December 2020 11: 51
            -1
            Quote: Bilal
            Territories which, as a result of "selfish" interests of the Republic of Ingushetia and the USSR, became theirs. In the common people this is called CONTRACTION.

            Well then, in your opinion, they should have been thrown to be devoured, even by the kings and emperors. Although it might be right to give up, they all pour a lot of crap on Russia.
      2. Alex777
        Alex777 14 December 2020 11: 31
        +3
        In short, Russia and the Anglo-Saxons have fundamentally different approaches.
        Therefore, the restoration of housing in Karabakh is being carried out by Russia.
        Therefore, Russia is still the largest country in the world.
        And only Britain itself remained from the British Empire.
        And it is not clear what will happen to Scotland after Brexit.
        Therefore, Afghans regret that the Yankees came instead of the "shuravi".
        They have something to compare in approaches. Etc. bully
        1. Bad thing
          Bad thing 16 December 2020 05: 59
          -1
          Quote: Alex777
          Therefore, Afghans regret that the Yankees came instead of the "shuravi".

          Because in the fight against the shuravi they were generously helped by both the West and China, and now they are left alone with the Western coalition. It's not interesting to fight for free, that's how they are.
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      4. Lipchanin
        Lipchanin 14 December 2020 11: 42
        0
        Quote: Bilal
        All who desperately want to go to the region have interests here.

        And nothing that the Turks have already "frolicked" there
        The Armenian Genocide is the physical destruction of the Christian ethnic Armenian population of the Ottoman Empire, which took place from the spring of 1915 to the autumn of 1916. The Ottoman Empire was home to about 1,5 million Armenians. During the genocide, at least 664 thousand people died. There are suggestions that the death toll could have reached 1,2 million people. The Armenians call these events "Metz Yeghern" ("Great Atrocity") or "Aghet" ("Catastrophe").
      5. iouris
        iouris 14 December 2020 14: 40
        -1
        Quote: Bilal
        Russia rushed to the region solely because of its peacefulness?

        First, the Russian Federation did not "rush". Secondly, it is a question of the survival of the Russian Federation. (And if you are Azerbaijani) Third, why do you speak Russian? What school did your grandparents go to? What school did your parents go to?
  3. Bilal
    Bilal 14 December 2020 11: 47
    -3
    Quote: Lipchanin

    And nothing that the Turks have already carried out genocide against the Armenians?
    The Armenian Genocide is the physical destruction of the Christian ethnic Armenian population of the Ottoman Empire, which took place from the spring of 1915 to the autumn of 1916. The Ottoman Empire was home to about 1,5 million Armenians. During the genocide, at least 664 thousand people died. There are suggestions that the death toll could have reached 1,2 million people. The Armenians call these events "Metz Yeghern" ("Great Atrocity") or "Aghet" ("Catastrophe").


    I'm curious ... Everyone is talking about genocide. But nobody talks about the reasons for the genocide. While the Turks were fighting for their homeland, the Armenians, crawling by chance, began to slaughter the Turks (civilians, not the military), help the enemies of Turkey, and conduct insurgencies. What was left for Turkey to do? Kissing and giving flowers?
    The mistake of the Turks is that they still deny the genocide. Personally, I would confirm the genocide. But I would announce to the whole world that because of this and this we have done what all countries are doing against the rebels, counter-revolutionaries ...
    1. Max Lebedev
      Max Lebedev 14 December 2020 12: 08
      +16
      In this case, if we consider historical justice, the Turks must at the international level recognize the legitimacy of Crimea's entry into the Russian Federation. Otherwise it is "double standards"
      1. Petro_tut
        Petro_tut 14 December 2020 21: 54
        0
        In this case, if we consider historical justice, the Turks must at the international level recognize the legitimacy of Crimea's entry into the Russian Federation. Otherwise it is "double standards"
        Reply

        And they offered in return for the recognition of Northern Cyprus by Russia
  4. Roman070280
    Roman070280 14 December 2020 12: 16
    +1
    In the photo - two from the casket ..))
  5. A. Privalov
    A. Privalov 14 December 2020 12: 54
    +1
    So far, Iran has reared up:
    ... Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan sparked outrage in Iran after reading a poem about the unity of the Azerbaijani people during his visit to Baku. In Tehran, the Turkish leader's statement was perceived as an attempt to undermine the national unity and territorial integrity of the country.
    The poem he quoted asserts that the Araks River will not be able to divide the Azerbaijanis, who were forcibly deprived of their united homeland.


    The fact is that the border of Azerbaijan and Iran runs along the Araks. According to various estimates, 12-18 million Azerbaijanis live on Iranian territory. This is a significant part of the population of the Islamic Republic. The Iranian authorities heard in Erdogan's words a call for the restoration of a united Azerbaijan under Turkish hegemony.
    The border along the Araks River was established according to the 1828 Turkmanchay Peace Treaty signed by Persia and the Russian Empire. The agreement is still perceived in Iran as a national shame, a strategic defeat, from which Iran has not recovered to this day.


    "President Erdogan was not informed that the territories north of the Araks were forcibly torn away from the Iranian homeland. Doesn't he understand that he is undermining the sovereignty of Azerbaijan? NOBODY has the right to talk about OUR precious Azerbaijan."
    - Iranian Foreign Minister Mohammad Javad Zarif said.

    The Turkish Ambassador to Tehran was presented with a note of protest.
  6. Bilal
    Bilal 14 December 2020 13: 05
    -2
    Quote: Insurgent
    Quote: Bilal

    Territories which, as a result of "selfish" interests of the Republic of Ingushetia and the USSR, became theirs. In the common people this is called TAKING ...

    I will not call it, as the common people say, "historians" like you. There are many epithets, and all of them are not flattering.


    I'm not a historian. And about the statements of the people about people like you, I will also be silent. Let's not sling mud at each other. We're just discussing.

    Alex777 (Alexander)

    What country did you teach history at school? wink
    How many times has Georgia, represented by its rulers, asked to be admitted to Russia? For a long time Russia did not agree. And then because of the Georgians, and not for any other reason, I had to fight with the Caucasus. To pave the way between Russia and Georgia.
    This is to the question of how Russia ended up in the Transcaucasus.


    I am a simple Soviet schoolboy. He taught Soviet history. And I know about Georgia. And about Armenia. And "imagine" even about Peter the Great. And his campaign south after the "Northern War".
  7. iouris
    iouris 14 December 2020 14: 35
    0
    "Behold at the root!" (Kozma Prutkov)
    Quote: "... for Turkey in this case," it is extremely important to ensure the uninterrupted operation of the Baku-Tbilisi-Ceyhan oil pipeline. " End of quote.
  8. Bilal
    Bilal 14 December 2020 16: 46
    0
    Quote: iouris
    Quote: Bilal
    Russia rushed to the region solely because of its peacefulness?

    First, the Russian Federation did not "rush". Secondly, it is a question of the survival of the Russian Federation. (And if you are Azerbaijani) Third, why do you speak Russian? What school did your grandparents go to? What school did your parents go to?


    As for the fact that there is a "question of survival" here, I do not argue. From the point of view of state interests, Russia is doing the right thing. It's just that some people say that Russia is doing everything, only for humane purposes. And all dissidents, aliens or aliens))))). And thank you for what we were not afraid and told the truth. I did not go to a Russian school. And in the SOVIET SCHOOL. And these are completely different things. The Soviet is something common that all peoples have created together. Probably those who have seen the Soviet times will agree with me that today's Russia does not even hint at the former Soviet Union.
  9. AĞGURD
    AĞGURD 14 December 2020 21: 07
    -1
    Quote: Lipchanin
    Quote: Bilal
    All who desperately want to go to the region have interests here.

    And nothing that the Turks have already "frolicked" there
    The Armenian Genocide is the physical destruction of the Christian ethnic Armenian population of the Ottoman Empire, which took place from the spring of 1915 to the autumn of 1916. The Ottoman Empire was home to about 1,5 million Armenians. During the genocide, at least 664 thousand people died. There are suggestions that the death toll could have reached 1,2 million people. The Armenians call these events "Metz Yeghern" ("Great Atrocity") or "Aghet" ("Catastrophe").

    all this is a lie .. AGHET is their real name ... the only catastrophe is the Armenians themselves ... Satan himself overpowered them here on the border between Muslims and Peasants to incite war ..)). at first there were about 700 thousand of them .. it was all provocations ... at that time there was a pashik ... turn the Karabakh scenario, this is the pavilion of the 1900s ... just today we did not allow Europeans to be drawn in (we didn’t succeed although the Minsk group was able to) as in the past ... you Russians do not need Europeans here ... at least neither the 1800s nor the 1900s nor 1941-1943 nor wait nor later is unacceptable with a hostile intent ...
  10. AĞGURD
    AĞGURD 14 December 2020 21: 23
    0
    Quote: Lipchanin
    Quote: Bilal
    All who desperately want to go to the region have interests here.

    And nothing that the Turks have already "frolicked" there
    The Armenian Genocide is the physical destruction of the Christian ethnic Armenian population of the Ottoman Empire, which took place from the spring of 1915 to the autumn of 1916. The Ottoman Empire was home to about 1,5 million Armenians. During the genocide, at least 664 thousand people died. There are suggestions that the death toll could have reached 1,2 million people. The Armenians call these events "Metz Yeghern" ("Great Atrocity") or "Aghet" ("Catastrophe").

    secondly, what does the peasant have to do with it, but in Azerbaijan or in Turkey or in Pakistan or in Syria, Egypt in Algeria Tunisia, etc., the peasants live much more religiously than yours or hai ... and what? yes, there are more churches on our territories than on the same territory you have ... enough religious nonsense ... how you are waging a war as anti-terrorist as we are so anti-Christian ... believe me if an anti-Christian war starts and it never starts. with the Armenians)). aliens or someone else but not with people of books ... if the Jihad is declared, believe me, that war will have no front or border .. there will be war in every building on every street in every city in every country .. ... at that moment all believers will unite and there will be a great and last battle ...
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  12. Scorpio05
    Scorpio05 15 December 2020 22: 34
    0
    Quote: Polymer
    Quote: Thrall
    Aliyev, elated by his successes, runs ahead of the locomotive

    So him locomotive Erdogan is pushing.
    On the subject: Turkey cannot play the role of a peacemaker, since from the very beginning it clearly and very actively supported one of the parties to the conflict. Therefore, there is no mention of it in the tripartite agreement.

    Journalist and TV presenter Roman Babayan and RT editor-in-chief Margarita Simonyan on the air of NTV addressed questions to Armenian Prime Minister Nikol Pashinyan
    “And this help was immediately provided to you, and it was rendered on a huge scale. Is it true that dozens of Russian military transport aircraft landed on Armenian military airfields (and not only military airfields)? Tell us, please, is it true that you received the weapons systems that you requested? " - asked the journalist, urging to answer the questions honestly. Otherwise, Babayan promised to "ask more specific questions."
    Source: https://russian.rt.com/ussr/news/803072-babayan-simonyan-voprosy-armeniya

    "Russia provided military assistance to Armenia during the Karabakh war without the request of Prime Minister Nikol Pashinyan," said Colonel General Movses Hakobyan, who had resigned from the post of Chief Military Inspector of Armenia the day before.
    As of September 30, Pashinyan did not call Putin asking for assistance. Russia, as a fraternal country to us, carried out deliveries based on its conscience. Russia provided the maximum that was possible. She gave what we never dreamed of in our life, "Hakobyan said at a press conference on Thursday."
    Source: https: https: //newsarmenia.am/news/armenia/skandalnye-razoblacheniya-eks-glavy-genshtaba-armenii-movsesa-akopyana-tezisy-video/
  13. Scorpio05
    Scorpio05 15 December 2020 22: 58
    -1
    Quote: Lipchanin
    Quote: Bilal
    All who desperately want to go to the region have interests here.

    And nothing that the Turks have already "frolicked" there
    The Armenian Genocide is the physical destruction of the Christian ethnic Armenian population of the Ottoman Empire, which took place from the spring of 1915 to the autumn of 1916. The Ottoman Empire was home to about 1,5 million Armenians. During the genocide, at least 664 thousand people died. There are suggestions that the death toll could have reached 1,2 million people. The Armenians call these events "Metz Yeghern" ("Great Atrocity") or "Aghet" ("Catastrophe").

    I always asked a question, and there was an investigation, and then a justification, and after all this, there was a legal decision of a competent court that it was so. "genocide" of Armenians? So you can blame anyone for everything you want.