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Bloomberg: Putin is satisfied with the fact that Turkey is becoming a thorn in his NATO colleagues

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Bloomberg news agency publishes material in which reflects on Russian-Turkish contacts of recent times. With reference, including to Russian, analysts, the Western information service writes that "Putin is tolerant of the methods of Erdogan's assertive policy."


Bloomberg notes that in regional conflicts, Russia and Turkey are interested in diametrically opposed ones, however, "Putin is satisfied with the fact that Turkey is becoming an ever greater thorn in his NATO colleagues."

From the material:

The Russian President is confident that Erdogan's attempt to possibly improve relations with Biden will fail.

At the same time, it points to the deepening of the economic and political partnership between Moscow and Ankara, even "despite the fact that Russia and Turkey support different parties in certain regional conflicts, including Libya and Syria."

Bloomberg quotes a statement from the chairman of the Istanbul Analytical Center Sinan Ulgen, who notes that Russia and Turkey have "tense relations, but at the same time they manage to reach compromises on a number of issues."

The publication believes that a Turkish president like Recep Erdogan is in many ways beneficial for Moscow today.
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  1. Nyrobsky
    Nyrobsky 13 December 2020 17: 38
    +13
    This interesting Bloomberg))) First, NATO colleagues stir up an attempt at a coup in order to shorten Erdogan's height exactly by the head, and then wonder why Edik looks at them askance and plays his game spitting in their sandbox.
    1. SRC P-15
      SRC P-15 13 December 2020 18: 05
      +6
      Bloomberg: Putin is satisfied with the fact that Turkey is becoming a thorn in his NATO colleagues

      Not only does this suit Putin - he does not miss an opportunity to drive this splinter deeper! yes
      1. Alex777
        Alex777 13 December 2020 18: 42
        -1
        Few can do that. GDP is great here. hi
      2. for
        for 14 December 2020 00: 13
        -2
        Quote: СРЦ П-15
        drive the splinter deeper!

        He's driving himself a thorn. But I haven't figured it out yet. For Turkey, we are more enemies than the West.
        1. alkamun
          alkamun 14 December 2020 02: 02
          +4
          Why are we bigger enemies than the West? Are we imposing sanctions on the purchase of aircraft? Maybe the S-400 was promised, and then not delivered? Or maybe we have a problem with refugees? We are probably not quite friends, but at least we are ready to take into account and discuss mutual interests, and not to issue ultimatums as Western "partners".
          1. for
            for 14 December 2020 03: 55
            -2
            Quote: alkamun
            Aircraft purchase sanctions

            The United States imposed on itself.
            Or maybe we have a problem with refugees

            Toto, they are looking for problems to the enemy.
            Quote: alkamun
            discuss mutual interests

            We go there money with tourists, gas, rockets, and they give us "tomatoes"
          2. sustav75
            sustav75 14 December 2020 05: 25
            -4
            If the Russian Empire took into account the interests of the Turks during its existence, the Caucasus, the Black Sea region and part of Asia would have gone to the Ottomans! Do not give Putin credit, which is not. Putin is acting on a whim, on a leftover principle. VVP loves to endure madly! The world champion is straightforward for patience ...
        2. Kot_Kuzya
          Kot_Kuzya 14 December 2020 03: 09
          0
          Quote: for
          He's driving himself a thorn. But I haven't figured it out yet. For Turkey, we are more enemies than the West.

          Can you tell me who was the main geopolitical and strategic enemy of the Ottoman Empire for 600 years from the 14th century? And which countries destroyed the Ottoman Empire as a result of WWI?
          1. for
            for 14 December 2020 03: 37
            -6
            Quote: Kot_Kuzya
            Can you tell me

            Yes, we are constantly fighting in the same ranks with the Turks against the West.
            1. Temples
              Temples 14 December 2020 08: 35
              +1
              In the First World War, the Turks were our opponents.
              In World War II, the Turks are opponents again.
              The Cuban missile crisis arose due to the deployment of missiles in Turkey. The deployment of our missiles in Cuba was only a response.

              Remind me when the Turks fought with us against the West.

              Apparently you have your own story.
              1. for
                for 14 December 2020 11: 21
                +2
                Quote: Temples
                Apparently you have your own story.

                This is sarcasm in response to Kotu Kuze. It was necessary to put quotes on.
                1. Vladimir Mashkov
                  Vladimir Mashkov 14 December 2020 11: 33
                  0
                  It's funny! laughing It seems that Putin does not really need to strain: the West himself for him he will do everything, he will (mentally) attack, he will lose the war and surrender. laughing
                  But Putin, nevertheless, is trying ... lol yes
                  1. bayard
                    bayard 15 December 2020 04: 54
                    0
                    It is enough for the West to direct Turkey along the path of the "Great Turan" - to unite Central Asia and the Caucasus (everything), including northern Iran (South Azerbaijan), and this will be enough to confront the Turks and their satellites with Russia and Iran. smile
                    Here is such an unpretentious dream. yes
                    And Putin walks in the rut of Western doctrine, like a sheep on a leash ... and he leads us.
                    And this is all instead of strengthening (real, not exaggerated) Army, for a real war, which will not be in spillikins and cartoons.
                    280 K people - the number of the Ground Forces of Russia !!!
                    This is for all directions !!!
                    What is the size of the Air Force (as part of the Aerospace Forces) and its combat component?
                    How ready are they?
                    How will they be controlled and will they be able to counteract low-altitude targets during a massive launch of the CD?
                    Does the Russian Federation have AWACS aircraft?
                    And what are its aerospace forces worth without these planes?
                    What do we have with anti-submarine aircraft?
                    Is she even there?
                    With Marine Missile Aviation?
                    ... these questions are enough for now ...
                    And the last one - who is our Supreme Commander-in-Chief and what does he think about this?
                    He generally thinks about it, and if "yes", then I would like to see AT LEAST ONE example of his REAL concern about the GENUINE combat readiness of the RF Armed Forces.

                    ... and how it happened that with the number of Ground Forces 280 thousand, at the same time, the Rosgvardia has a number of 350 thousand people. ?
                    Is he (the supreme commander in chief) going to defend the people of Russia, or ... to defend?

                    And what about the "cunning plan" \ "game" with Turkey ... this is not not a "cunning plan", it podavashki because of the inability to resist.
                    Or unwillingness ...
                    He / they seem to have very different interests.
    2. Aleksandr21
      Aleksandr21 13 December 2020 18: 35
      +8
      Quote: Nyrobsky
      This interesting Bloomberg))) First, NATO colleagues stir up an attempt at a coup in order to shorten Erdogan's height exactly by the head, and then wonder why Edik looks at them askance and plays his game spitting in their sandbox.


      Nevertheless, Erdogan interacts quite closely with Great Britain, and the same USA is doing nothing to curb the Sultan's ambitions, and a strange picture emerges when Turkey's influence grows in the BV with Asia, and the collective West tries to ignore the growing threat ... so here different combinations can be, and a splinter may well be intended for us or China, and all this information noise, just for the background.
      1. Nyrobsky
        Nyrobsky 13 December 2020 20: 02
        +8
        Quote: Aleksandr21
        Nevertheless, Erdogan interacts quite closely with the UK, while the USA does nothing to curb the Sultan's ambitions, and a strange picture emerges when Turkey's influence is growing in the BV with Asia, and the collective West is trying to ignore the growing threat ... so there may be different combinations,

        This is not surprising, since the Turks during the Russian-Turkish war were under the influence of the British and blew in their interests. As for "containment", the same USA, as a result of "containment", untied the Sultan's hands. Initially, the sultan actively got involved in the Syrian ridge along with mattresses, despite the fact that at one time, almost like a family, he and his wife drank tea with the Assad family (by the way, Aliyev needs to keep this in mind). But the mattresses decided that the oil pie was not enough for them, along the way they decided to implement the theme with the creation of an independent Kurdistan, which did not correspond to the interests of Turkey. on its territory, something lives in the region of 15-18 million Kurds who, with an automatic bang, can go out together with the territory, after which Edik's relationship with the mattresses sparkled. When the Russian Federation entered Syria and began to methodically reset the mattress plans, they decided to stage a provocation with an airplane and knock Ankara and Moscow with their heads together, and thereby remove two players from the Syrian glade at the same time, giving them the opportunity to fight, carrying out what was conceived by the hands of Prime Minister Davutoglu, who himself admitted that it was he who gave the order to strike the plane. Edik rushed to NATO, so that they would explain in a boyish way what the business was, but he was methodically sent in the hope that a cut would come during which mattresses and the company would finish Damascus and relying on the Kurds of Iraq, Turkey and Syria from three pieces they would sew Kurdistan with an exit to the Mediterranean Sea, but Edik and VVP were not led to this business and agreed, breaking off the United States. After this setup, which resulted in significant (tomato-tourist) losses for Ankara, Edik began to guess that the “partners” were not behaving like partners. Turkey launched an operation against the Kurds with the introduction of troops into Iraq. Seeing that the Sultan was inclined to compromise with the GDP, the mattresses decided to erase it with an eraser and, by the hands of the Gulenites, bring a more accommodating Sultan to power, but D. Kerry, in a conversation with Lavrov, leaked information, which was interpreted as that the Sultan had very little time left. a little bit, which was transferred to GDP, and then to Edik, who dawned on the fact that the Western comrades were not comrades at all, and after taking a bite of the bit, he staked on strengthening his power and pursuing a policy in the interests of Ankara, which partly coincide with our interests in countering the influence of the United States. It is clear that we are far from allies, but at this stage, interaction with the Turks in this region is anyway better than relations with mattresses. Somehow it seems so. hi
      2. aybolyt678
        aybolyt678 13 December 2020 21: 13
        +2
        Quote: Aleksandr21
        and the collective West is trying to ignore the growing threat ...

        The West sleeps and sees, as it were, someone with whom to confront. Russia with Ukraine, Turkey with China, China with Russia, set fire to Belarus ... In any variation ..
      3. Machito
        Machito 13 December 2020 22: 18
        +1
        Putin acts out of the logic of his policy of multipolarity: Erdogan is a thorn in everyone.
        1. sustav75
          sustav75 14 December 2020 05: 27
          -3
          GDP operates from the logic of tolerance.
    3. NF68
      NF68 13 December 2020 18: 44
      +2
      Quote: Nyrobsky
      This interesting Bloomberg))) First, NATO colleagues stir up an attempt at a coup in order to shorten Erdogan's height exactly by the head, and then wonder why Edik looks at them askance and plays his game spitting in their sandbox.


      It's always like this with them.
  2. Lipchanin
    Lipchanin 13 December 2020 17: 43
    -1
    The Russian President is confident that Erdogan's attempt to possibly improve relations with Biden will fail.

    Well, all they know is what Putin is sure and not sure about.
    You might think he reports to them every evening
    1. cniza
      cniza 13 December 2020 17: 47
      +1
      They guess on the coffee grounds and try to draw conclusions ...
      1. Lipchanin
        Lipchanin 13 December 2020 18: 16
        -4
        Conclusions that suit them
        1. cniza
          cniza 13 December 2020 18: 18
          -1
          Customized to the desired response and actions ...
          1. Lipchanin
            Lipchanin 13 December 2020 18: 19
            -2
            This article is a prime example.
    2. aybolyt678
      aybolyt678 13 December 2020 21: 16
      0
      they are sure that Erdik and Biden will not agree and that Putin will be guilty
      1. Lipchanin
        Lipchanin 13 December 2020 21: 26
        -2
        Well, as always
  3. cniza
    cniza 13 December 2020 17: 46
    +1
    The publication believes that a Turkish president like Recep Erdogan is in many ways beneficial for Moscow today.


    It depends on which side to look ...
    1. rocket757
      rocket757 13 December 2020 17: 49
      +3
      The Sultan, a difficult fellow traveler .... he wobbles painfully along the road and only to his side.
      1. cniza
        cniza 13 December 2020 17: 50
        +3
        He not only wobbles, but like an oriental man, if possible, stabs him in the back with a knife ...
        1. rocket757
          rocket757 13 December 2020 17: 54
          +1
          Yes, you can't show him the slack ... and you can’t leave without attention, they’ll turn your back, you can’t at all.
          1. cniza
            cniza 13 December 2020 17: 57
            +1
            Moreover, this is considered normal for them and is not condemned, they say, it is your fault that he turned his back.
            1. Lipchanin
              Lipchanin 13 December 2020 18: 15
              -1
              Quote: cniza
              Moreover, this is considered normal for them.

              Moral rules for Muslims and Christians are for the most part diametrically opposed
              1. cniza
                cniza 13 December 2020 18: 17
                0
                I do not presume to judge in religious matters, but in life, yes ...
                1. Lipchanin
                  Lipchanin 13 December 2020 18: 21
                  -6
                  I'm talking about life. And as far as I know, only in the Quran is the word "kill"
                  This word is not found in any other scriptures.
                  Well, the Quran itself, they re-interpret as they like
                  1. cniza
                    cniza 13 December 2020 18: 50
                    +1
                    I have not read the Koran, I do not know, but the fact that the Muslim religion is the youngest and, as they say, the most humane, but the fact that much has been rewritten is understandable
                    1. Lipchanin
                      Lipchanin 13 December 2020 18: 59
                      -3
                      Quote: cniza
                      I have not read the Koran I do not know

                      I didn't read either, but I was in the hospital for 8,5 months and my neighbor was a Muslim.
                      He told me a lot about the Koran
                      and as they say the most humane

                      Well, yes, humane, to stone women with stones
                      , but the fact that a lot has been rewritten is understandable

                      I'm not talking about the census, I'm talking about the interpretation.
                      Each mullah interprets as he pleases. Look how many currents there are.
                      I am the greatest example of a Wahhabite
                      1. cniza
                        cniza 13 December 2020 21: 00
                        +2
                        Life is a difficult thing, but you have to live ...
                      2. Lipchanin
                        Lipchanin 13 December 2020 21: 07
                        0
                        Quote: cniza
                        Life is a difficult thing

                        And very dangerous
                    2. no one
                      no one 13 December 2020 21: 57
                      0
                      I have not read it, but I condemn it. Something like this. One Muslim told while drinking vodka together
                2. Reviews
                  Reviews 13 December 2020 19: 44
                  +6
                  Quote: Lipchanin
                  only the Qur'an has the word "kill"
                  This word is not found in any other scriptures.

                  To go nuts ...
                  “And in the cities of these peoples, which the Lord thy God gives thee to possess, don't leave a single soul alive, but betray them to a spell: the Hittites and the Amorites, and the Canaanites, and the Perrezites, and the Hivites, and the Jebusites, and the Gergesites, as the Lord thy God commanded you. " (Deuteronomy 20: 16-17).

                  "So kill all the male children, and all the women who have come to know her husband on the male bed, kill; but all the female children who have not known the male bed, keep alive for yourself ”(Numbers 31: 17-18).

                  “If you hear about any of your cities, which the Lord your God gives you to live in, that wicked people have appeared in it ... saying:“ Let us go and serve other gods whom you did not know ”... then ... defeats residents of that city the edge of the swordThrow him to a spell and all that is in him, and slay his cattle with the edge of the sword; Gather up all its spoil in the middle of its square and burn the city and all its spoil for a burnt offering to the Lord your God ... "(Deuteronomy 13: 12-16).

                  “If your relatives urge you to worship other gods ... then kill them ... stone them to death"(Deuteronomy 13: 6-10).

                  "If there is among you ... a man or a woman who ... goes and serves other gods and worships them, or the sun, or the moon, or all the host of heaven ... then beat them with stones to death" (Deuteronomy 17: 2-5).

                  “And the Lord our God has delivered into our hands Og the king of Bashan, and all his people; And we struck him, so no one was left alive... and we put them to a spell, as we did with Sigon, king of Heshbon, having put to a spell every city with men, women and children "(Deuteronomy 3: 3-6).

                  "AND struck they are his and his sons and all his people, so that not a single one was left aliveand they took possession of his land ... ”(Numbers 21:35).

                  “And they put to the curse all the cities, men and women and children, did not leave anyone alive”(Deuteronomy 2:34).
                3. aybolyt678
                  aybolyt678 13 December 2020 21: 26
                  +3
                  Quote: Lipchanin
                  And as far as I know, only the Quran has the word "kill"

                  The Qur'an is almost word for word the Old Testament in poetic form. It has a preface in which it is forbidden to kill a slave during prayer, for at this moment he belongs to God. Otherwise, it's the same story. Surah, the following sounds like this: - And God said the light and became Light and created GOD ...... In addition to the Koran, there is also a Sharia - a list of rules for the category of haram - sins. By the way, it is very useful and vital to suggest how to act correctly for a faithful. I talked with young Muslims and I will say that they, like us, practically do not read the Koran. So on top that they will hear, no more.
                  1. Lipchanin
                    Lipchanin 13 December 2020 21: 31
                    -1
                    Quote: aybolyt678
                    So on top that they will hear, no more.

                    This is what Barmaleev is made of.
            2. rocket757
              rocket757 13 December 2020 18: 23
              +3
              It's the same everywhere. They are afraid of the strong, the weak, they do not regret .... they can bypass the poor here and there, but these are already options.
              1. cniza
                cniza 13 December 2020 18: 47
                +3
                Unfortunately, yes, the people have become very cruel, but the eastern peoples are very specific, by our standards ...
            3. sustav75
              sustav75 14 December 2020 05: 33
              -1
              To kill an infidel is a feat for Muslims! Putin is wrong for Erdogan! Moreover, he is patiently fearing his own concerns :)))
          2. rocket757
            rocket757 13 December 2020 18: 21
            +1
            STRONG, always ready and guaranteed to give back, in full, especially in increased measure, even to spit in the back FEAR!
            1. cniza
              cniza 13 December 2020 18: 48
              +4
              Quote: rocket757
              FOR A STRONG even to spit in the back FEAR!


              Only after and then from around the corner ...
              1. Lipchanin
                Lipchanin 13 December 2020 19: 00
                +1
                Quote: cniza
                Only after and then from around the corner ..

                Well they are masters at this
                Five were never afraid of one.
                I looked at them in CA
                1. cniza
                  cniza 13 December 2020 21: 04
                  +4
                  So we all watched who was born before ...
                  1. Lipchanin
                    Lipchanin 13 December 2020 21: 08
                    +1
                    Well yes. Now there are fewer contacts with them.
      2. Lipchanin
        Lipchanin 13 December 2020 18: 14
        +1
        Quote: cniza
        if possible, stab him in the back ...

        With great pleasure and a smile on your face
        1. cniza
          cniza 13 December 2020 18: 15
          +2
          And he will think that he was right, the east is a delicate matter ...
          1. Lipchanin
            Lipchanin 13 December 2020 18: 18
            +1
            Quote: cniza
            East is a delicate matter...

            I do not want to offend anyone, but rather not subtle, but mostly mean
        2. kit88
          kit88 13 December 2020 18: 36
          +13
          Everything is different in the East
  • Nychego
    Nychego 13 December 2020 17: 56
    +2
    So far Erdi is winning. Look, I climbed into Azerbaijan. Iran is next in line (and this is the only way to Armenia for the Russian Federation). His own "disagreements" with NATO are sucked out of his finger - what is needed, then he has with NATO: protection from "direct aggression" from Russia, in other things, he conducts his policy quite independently, entering into temporary allied relations with those with whom it is beneficial exclusively to the Turkish authorities.
    Clearly Erdi's plans, of course approved, are to outplay NATO both in Syria and in Central Asia, and Russia will not be able to oppose anything worthwhile, because South Stream ...
  • pereselenec
    pereselenec 13 December 2020 18: 11
    0
    How tall is Erdogan? From the video where he is next to different people I thought that he was a Karlan, and he turns out to be half a head taller than Putin.
    1. SRC P-15
      SRC P-15 13 December 2020 18: 23
      -7
      Quote: pereselenec
      How tall is Erdogan? From the video where he is next to different people I thought that he was a Karlan, and he turns out to be half a head taller than Putin.

      Do not! Putin is head and shoulders above Erdogan! Or do you disagree with that?
    2. Yura
      Yura 13 December 2020 18: 59
      -3
      Quote: pereselenec
      and he turns out to be half a head taller than Putin.

      Is it?
      1. aybolyt678
        aybolyt678 13 December 2020 21: 29
        0
        Quote: Jura
        Is it?


        where is the photo and what is on it ??
        1. Avior
          Avior 13 December 2020 21: 55
          +3
          Fake photo. Mounting.

          hi
          1. Yura
            Yura 13 December 2020 22: 02
            -1
            Quote: Avior
            Fake photo. Mounting.

            hi

            Maybe everything can be.
            1. Avior
              Avior 13 December 2020 22: 57
              +3
              Russian President Vladimir Putin and Serbian President Tomislav Nikolic in Belgrade laid wreaths at the monument in memory of the Soviet and Yugoslav soldiers - the liberators of the Serbian capital during the Second World War. The military band sang the anthems of the two countries, after which the leaders left notes in the Book of Honorary Guests. Putin, in particular, wrote that Russia will cherish the memory and honor the feat of the soldiers who died in the fight against fascism.

              The presidents then laid wreaths at the monument to Soviet soldiers who died during the liberation of Belgrade and were buried in a military cemetery in the Serbian capital.

              http://www.srbija.ru/news/8751-id
              hi
              1. Yura
                Yura 13 December 2020 23: 26
                0
                Quote: Avior
                http://www.srbija.ru/news/8751-id

                You took the time to sort it out, good work, thanks. hi Although there I had only a joking objection to "who is taller." And so you are right, it was not very beautiful.
                1. Avior
                  Avior 13 December 2020 23: 33
                  +2
                  I've seen before. Unfortunately, people are not always critical of information.
                  hi
                  1. Yura
                    Yura 13 December 2020 23: 36
                    +1
                    Quote: Avior
                    Unfortunately, people are not always critical of information.

                    I take it personally as a fair comment. hi And if the moderator deletes my comment from this photo, I will only be grateful to him.
                2. Salty
                  Salty 13 December 2020 23: 46
                  -1
                  Quote: Jura
                  good job, thank you

                  1. Right mouse on the photo - Find picture (Google)
                  2. Sixth line in the search results:

                  http://www.bolshoyvopros.ru/questions/1811596-prezident-turcii-na-kolenjah-eto-chto-montazh-sm-foto.html

                  Quote: From there
                  This is a photo toad ...

                  That is, in fact, all the "work" laughing
                  1. Yura
                    Yura 13 December 2020 23: 53
                    0
                    Quote: SaltY
                    That is, in fact, all the "work"

                    So I'm not talking about hard or easy work, but about how Avior did it, he did it discreetly and tactfully, so "good work". hi
        2. Yura
          Yura 13 December 2020 21: 55
          -2
          Quote: aybolyt678
          where is the photo and what is on it ??

          If memory serves, this shot was taken while Putin was in Turkey, where, incidentally, he was very well received by Erdogan, during this meeting there was an agreement on the construction of the South Stream. And this frame after this meeting was widely circulated on the network, now they also exist, even in Google, even in Yandex in Mile ru too.
          1. Avior
            Avior 13 December 2020 22: 01
            +2
            This is a famous photo montage
  • Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 13 December 2020 18: 26
    +1
    Well, why not. Another thing is that the Turks climb everywhere ...
  • CommanderDIVA
    CommanderDIVA 13 December 2020 18: 34
    +1
    NATO will never let Turkey go free, so, they will chide a little through sanctions and no more, the Turks are our old adversary in the Transcaucasus who, in addition to NATO's interests, has their own interests, and I have not heard about the Americans taking out nuclear weapons from the Injerlik airbase, they are quarreling Turks, we are not allowed now, too dependent on the Syrian express
  • kamakama
    kamakama 13 December 2020 19: 17
    +3
    This all resembles the great game of the 1930s, when alliances collapsed and were created, friends betrayed and enemies saved. Very dark thoughts :(
  • APASUS
    APASUS 13 December 2020 19: 57
    0
    How to tighten internal contradictions among NATO members to Putin? Yes, everything is simple, I must say that Erdogan simply drinks water from the palms of the President of Russia. There is no point in saying, but the sediment remained .............
  • Petrol cutter
    Petrol cutter 13 December 2020 20: 08
    +1
    "however," Putin is comfortable with the fact that Turkey is becoming an ever greater thorn in his NATO colleagues. "
    Of course. What do you want ?!
    Putin and I are absolutely satisfied with this.
    What our partners think there - do not care from the high bell tower. Thyme into your house. hi
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 13 December 2020 20: 25
    0
    laughing let the Ottomans go to Rome - this is their territory. And after all, the Turks are also plotting "influence" in Cyprus, they would not be torn in such a twine laughing
  • Yves762
    Yves762 13 December 2020 20: 33
    -2
    ... however, "Putin is satisfied with the fact that Turkey is becoming an ever greater thorn in his NATO colleagues."

    what
    Is it a "splinter"?
    Syria, Libya, and even Karabakh - where are the contradictions with NATO's "interests"?
    The states need someone who will be "quick" in the appropriate places. The EuroPians ran out of steam in Libya. And here is Turkey with ambitions, restless to the case. That's... request ..
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 13 December 2020 20: 36
    -1
    Everything is correct. Turkey does not have the resources for an independent aggressive policy in the Eastern Mediterranean and Transcaucasia. And Erdogan (Islamists) needs expansion for internal reasons. He needs the support of the nationalists. Not ideological, but, above all, nationalist-minded citizens. This is exactly what Erdogan's "hooligan" public rhetoric is aimed at. 

    The two conditions "has no resources" and "is needed for internal reasons" are agreed by turning Turkey into our junior partner. We helped Turkey resolve the issue with the Syrian Kurds. Turkey is entrusted with the task of separating the militants in Idlib (separating Arab militants from the Turkomans) and ousting France and Italy from Libya. Turkey's participation in the Karabakh conflict does not violate our interests. In this case, we are bringing Turkey into a subject. And ahead are joint actions in the Persian Gulf region. Erdogan is preparing for this. He announced Turkey's claims to religious leadership. 
    1. Tank hard
      Tank hard 13 December 2020 20: 49
      0
      Quote: Gennady Fomkin
      Turkey does not have the resources for an independent aggressive policy

      There is such a mess, periodically, here is one point:
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 13 December 2020 20: 39
    0
    So it is with everyone. While they give you delicious food and talk politely, you are good-natured and friendly, and if they start to insert a soldering iron into soft fabrics and demand an aria from rigoletto, then you will immediately be a fierce beast. The whole human society is built on the awareness of this balancing. laughing
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 13 December 2020 20: 47
    0
    Quote: pereselenec
    How tall is Erdogan? From the video where he is next to different people I thought that he was a Karlan, and he turns out to be half a head taller than Putin.

    Vladimir Putin, Russia: 170 cm. Michael D Higgins, Ireland: 160 cm. Angela Merkel, Germany: 165 cm. Recep Tayyip Erdogan, Turkey: 183 cm. Alexander Lukashenko, Belarus: 188 cm. Aleksandar Vucic, Serbia: 198 cm. laughing Leaders of different countries of very different heights, apparently, business qualities depend on something else, not on growth, for sure. wassat
  • syndicalist
    syndicalist 13 December 2020 21: 31
    -3
    Any stick has two ends. And the second end of this splinter in the Russian ass.
  • Klingon
    Klingon 13 December 2020 22: 19
    +1
    well, if there is such an opportunity, why not throw the "apple of tearing" into the very (in ... well) abyss of NATA wassat
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 13 December 2020 22: 32
    +1
    Turkish capital in Adjara at the root bought up the autonomy's authorities and local infrastructure in Bulgaria, and in the first quarter of 2018, the countries have already gained more than 1 billion euros. Few people will throw a slipper at you in the light of our history. No friends needed. Betrayed by friends. Therefore, everyone should be identified by us as only "partners" for a certain time we need. laughing
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 13 December 2020 22: 35
    -2
    Quote: syndicalist
    Any stick has two ends. And the second end of this splinter in the Russian ass.

    A person who is not versed in art will answer in the same way, looking at a painting by Picasso: something is drawn here) laughing
  • Kerensky
    Kerensky 13 December 2020 22: 45
    -1
    For the affairs of the sovereign, the size of the king does not matter! (FROM)
  • iouris
    iouris 14 December 2020 15: 12
    0
    And what is its "splinterness" manifested in? Erdogan is doing his job for NATO, but others are slowing down.
  • Bessik
    Bessik 14 December 2020 15: 18
    0
    Peter I: "Don't trust a woman, don't trust a Turk, don't trust a non-drinker"