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"Our adversary chooses how to defeat us": British Defense Minister on Russian weapons

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The British defense industry has lost its leading position due to the lack of innovative breakthroughs. In a number of developments, a technological fiasco was indeed observed, but in other moments decisiveness was required, without which it is impossible to achieve success.


This opinion was expressed by British Defense Secretary Ben Wallace. In his words, the Russian military-industrial complex has demonstrated its competencies by creating a new generation of missiles along with China and Iran.

We must not underestimate the accuracy and range of this weapons

- the head of the military department considers.

Wallace said the Zircon hypersonic missile had reached Mach 8 and was "making it difficult for Britain to take countermeasures." And this despite the fact that Russia has a good command of even conventional weapons.

Our adversary is already choosing with which weapon to defeat us, while we do not have enough leadership and innovation.

- Wallace believes, commenting on the testing of Russian weapons - missile and not only.

Among the technological breakthroughs, he attributed the Turkish attack drone Bayraktar TB2, the use of which "made it possible to destroy hundreds of armored vehicles and even air defense systems in Syria, Libya and other countries." According to Wallace, the developers of this UAV were denied access to elite foreign software, but they created it themselves:

The roots of these drones' success lie in Turkish innovation.
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  1. El Chuvachino
    El Chuvachino 13 December 2020 13: 53
    +15
    As usual asking for money instead of common sense fool
    1. Crowe
      Crowe 13 December 2020 14: 04
      +13
      To the point, Dude !!!
      1. figwam
        figwam 13 December 2020 14: 21
        +7
        Give me a million.
      2. Yok Migarek
        Yok Migarek 13 December 2020 16: 09
        -1
        Quote: Crowe
        To the point, Dude !!!

        "The peoples of Asia call a castrated wild boar or ram" dude ". They say that in prison jargon our word is used precisely in this sense"
        You casually insulted a stranger without even thinking. It is not right. Use Russian, exclude obscene words, Americanisms and other rubbish. The Russian language is so beautiful and rich that simple human words are enough to express any thought!
        1. unhappy
          unhappy 14 December 2020 07: 35
          +3

          Yok-Migaryok (Alexander)
          Yesterday, 16: 09
          NEW

          -1
          Quote: Crowe
          To the point, Dude !!!

          "The peoples of Asia call a castrated wild boar or ram" dude ". They say that in prison jargon our word is used precisely in this sense"
          You casually insulted a stranger without even thinking. It is not right. Use Russian, exclude obscene words, Americanisms and other rubbish. The Russian language is so beautiful and rich that simple human words are enough to express any thought!


          I am not a philologist, but I think that prison jargon and criminals' customs do not apply to the beautiful and rich Russian language. What they say in Asia is their business, in our country it has a different meaning. I recommend watching the movie "The Big Lebowski" for example.
          1. your1970
            your1970 18 December 2020 12: 30
            0
            Quote: unhappy
            What they say in Asia is their business, we in the country it has a different meaning.

            Sounds great? And here
            Quote: unhappy
            I recommend watching a movie for example "Greater Lebowski".

            Oops ...
            1. unhappy
              unhappy 19 December 2020 07: 50
              0
              A correct translation into Russian is not a literal translation. This film is an example of a correct translation. The address "dude" is not an insult, but an expression of friendliness, respect and is used among friends. I think this is closer to the hippie subculture and the like.
              hi
              1. your1970
                your1970 19 December 2020 11: 17
                +1
                this film has nothing to do with us, nor our country, nor our culture. Therefore this example is incorrect.
                and yet - you never know what hippies used in their subculture ...
        2. Private-K
          Private-K 14 December 2020 09: 12
          +1
          Quote: Yok-Migarek
          Quote: Crowe
          To the point, Dude !!!

          "The peoples of Asia call a castrated wild boar or ram" dude ". They say that in prison jargon our word is used precisely in this sense"
          You casually insulted a stranger without even thinking. It is not right. Use Russian, exclude obscene words, Americanisms and other rubbish. The Russian language is so beautiful and rich that simple human words are enough to express any thought!

          In Turkic languages, chuyaks are called a type of shoe
          https://www.google.com/search?q=%D1%87%D1%83%D0%B2%D1%8F%D0%BA%D0%B8&client=firefox-b-d&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiwvJvE58ztAhXt-ioKHdOhD3IQ_AUoAXoECAUQAw&biw=1366&bih=626
          Well, in prison jargon, a decent person should not give a damn.
          And in general - there is nothing here to induce criminal ayeshnye "concepts" (tm).
    2. ul_vitalii
      ul_vitalii 13 December 2020 14: 07
      +4
      Quote: El Chuvachino
      As usual asking for money instead of common sense fool

      They have, as it were, the opposite, money first, and the meaning will appear. yes
      1. LiSiCyn
        LiSiCyn 13 December 2020 14: 23
        0
        Quote: ul_vitalii
        They have, as it were, the opposite, money first, and the meaning will appear.

        Greetings, Vitaliy! hi
        England in matters of the military-industrial complex has long been completely dependent on the states. Cho bother them, zaluzhniki will still share.
        1. ul_vitalii
          ul_vitalii 13 December 2020 14: 31
          +2
          Quote: LiSiCyn
          Quote: ul_vitalii
          They have, as it were, the opposite, money first, and the meaning will appear.

          Greetings, Vitaliy! hi
          England in matters of the military-industrial complex has long been completely dependent on the states. Cho bother them, zaluzhniki will still share.

          Greetings Stas hi I had the impression for a long time that the wild boars depend on the Great Britons, all the filth comes from these steppes.
          1. KCA
            KCA 13 December 2020 16: 41
            +1
            Axes and Tridents are bought by the Naglich people in the USA, they are still building some dull ships and nuclear submarines themselves, but little, and, most likely, not for long, Queen Elizabeth is the last large ship, but the air wing on it is F-35, and where is the RR? And did the aircraft carrier make many campaigns? How Charles de Gaulle is more on the docks for repairs
        2. Alex777
          Alex777 13 December 2020 18: 14
          0
          The Britons are sad and not in vain. They buried a lot of money in the development of the Sea Zceptor, hoping to upset us with the interception of the Onyxes. And here is Zircon. wink
          As a result, no money, no protection. British sadness ... bully
          1. voyaka uh
            voyaka uh 13 December 2020 18: 47
            0
            "We buried a lot of money in the development of the Sea Zceptor," ////
            ----
            Not buried. They got a good missile defense
            short-range action.
            Zircon is a cloudy thing. Until footage of his target hitting is shown,
            it's hard to talk about something breakthrough.
            And Onyx / Bramos is a working supersonic rocket against which they come up with master keys.
            1. Alex777
              Alex777 13 December 2020 19: 20
              +1
              Not buried. They made a good short-range missile defense missile.

              Yes, good. Up to 3M speed of EMNIP targets.
            2. aszzz888
              aszzz888 14 December 2020 02: 28
              +2

              voyaka uh (Alexey)
              Yesterday, 18: 47
              NEW

              0
              "We buried a lot of money in the development of the Sea Zceptor," ////
              ----
              Not buried. They got a good missile defense
              short-range action.
              Zircon is a cloudy thing. Until the footage of his target hitting is shown,
              it's hard to talk about something breakthrough.
              ... especially for unbelieving Jews! tongue there are many of those who want to throw on the fan, and you are also in the forefront! request
        3. Boris Chernikov
          Boris Chernikov 14 December 2020 17: 08
          -2
          there is a cheap option .. you can offer them .. no need to fight with Russia and that's it)
      2. orionvitt
        orionvitt 13 December 2020 15: 51
        +1
        Quote: ul_vitalii
        and the meaning will appear

        If newfangled liberal values ​​that deny the logic of life and common sense are put in the priorities of state policy, in the first positions, then the meaning will never appear. And at the heart of the British economy is no longer industrial production, but banking speculation and offshore. Which, instead of a real product, from which the state should grow, produce exclusively virtual money and bubbles, which is what they complain about. So, everything goes on as usual, everything is correct, there is no one to blame. The British Empire is rotting.
      3. Imobile
        Imobile 13 December 2020 16: 45
        -5
        Rather, they want to lull us so that we do not develop anything new, with swords and cavalry, according to them, we will put all of Britain and the United States, they did it very improbably.
        1. your1970
          your1970 18 December 2020 15: 20
          -1
          Quote: Imobile
          Rather, they want to lull us so that we do not develop anything new, with swords and cavalry, according to them, we will put all of Britain and the United States, they did it very improbably.

          Therefore, they want to practically eliminate tank units ... In Bovington, upon completion, there will be twice as many tanks as in the army
    3. Orange bigg
      Orange bigg 13 December 2020 14: 12
      +1
      Our adversary is already choosing with which weapon to defeat us, while we do not have enough leadership and innovation.

      All this is show-off. They are filling the price for themselves. I am sure that no one really takes the British into account, does not think about them and is not going to win over them. It is very necessary to defeat one of the many pro-American sixes. The British think too well of themselves. Their level of confrontation with Argentina for the Forklands. Let them think about it. Otherwise, they begin to resemble such a big Estonia, gaining its own worth and asserting itself with the help of Russophobia. A weapon is being created to deter aggression from the US, first of all, and the rest of NATO members insofar as. For a heap so to speak.
    4. Terenin
      Terenin 13 December 2020 14: 48
      +4
      British Defense Secretary on Russian weapons

      So that's where, in the previous topic, the "analysis of Ukrainian laureates" on Russian tanks winked
  2. Knell wardenheart
    Knell wardenheart 13 December 2020 13: 55
    +5
    The British have for a long time already had the most effective air defense / missile defense from our weapons, even hypersonic, even sublight - these are arrays of real estate belonging to our oligarchs, banks in which they keep "their" money, universities where their children study, and so on. All these articles and statements are true, a pogrom with bells for the amusement of the crowd and for the glory of the defense budget.
    1. _Ugene_
      _Ugene_ 13 December 2020 14: 06
      +5
      let's hope that the commander-in-chief and the minister of defense do not have assets there, in the end it is not the Abramovich who decide to start a military operation, although the hope is so-so
      1. VORON538
        VORON538 13 December 2020 14: 13
        0
        The commander-in-chief and the minister of defense have no
        And many others have very much, despite the warning from the President of Russia that it is advisable to part with such assets!
        The trick is that Russia is not going to attack, we have this weapon in the event that the Naglo-Saxons are completely blown away! hi And in this case, I think that the military will not care at all that some deputy or minister has children or a house in London and other cities.
        However, under such hysterical cries of "Russians are coming", you can beg for money for your wishlist for your military industrial complex. And the owners of enterprises, as a rule, are either in the government or have their own lobby there. hi
      2. Smirnoff
        Smirnoff 13 December 2020 14: 15
        +17
        Quote: _Ugene_
        in the end, it is not the Abramovichs who decide to start a military operation

        According to Conspiracy Theory, the decisions are made by the "Abramovichs", not ours, but foreign ones.
        1. _Ugene_
          _Ugene_ 13 December 2020 14: 17
          0
          this is very unlikely, we now have, on the contrary, a rigid vertical of power, the oligarchs were put in place at the time of the landing of Khodorkovsky, and in the localities the siloviki have been in charge of financial flows for a long time, and they sent foreigners during the Crimean events, since then they have been pressing all sides and their horror stories are launched in all media about how Russia will soon capture everyone and everything
          1. Overlock
            Overlock 13 December 2020 16: 53
            +34
            Quote: _Ugene_
            We now have, on the contrary, a rigid vertical of power

            I like the word "tough", I would say - steel vertical, reinforced concrete. But there is not much sense: the May decrees have not been fulfilled and forgotten, prices are rising and the leader has already shook his finger so that the Prosecutor General rushed to study the price tags. And they, the price tags, do not change, that's all.
            Okay, the May decrees have passed. This is how national projects appeared!
            What, within the framework of the projects, has been done with education and health care, housing affordability, ecology, labor market, etc.? The year has shown that nothing has been done in this direction again. And what then is this rigid vertical "?
      3. Undecim
        Undecim 13 December 2020 14: 55
        +1
        in the end, it is not the Abramovichs who decide to start a military operation
        Are you sure?
        1. _Ugene_
          _Ugene_ 13 December 2020 14: 59
          0
          they are definitely not in our country
          1. Undecim
            Undecim 13 December 2020 15: 21
            +4
            Blessed is he who believes, it is warm to him in the world!
            1. _Ugene_
              _Ugene_ 13 December 2020 15: 24
              -2
              I spoke about this in the message right before your question "Are you sure?", What do you have to object on the merits?
              1. Undecim
                Undecim 13 December 2020 15: 26
                +3
                And Griboyedov essentially expressed himself long before they began to design you. What objections can there be?
                1. _Ugene_
                  _Ugene_ 13 December 2020 15: 26
                  -2
                  clear, empty chatter
                  1. Undecim
                    Undecim 13 December 2020 15: 32
                    +3
                    I am glad that I helped you evaluate your comments correctly. All the best.
    2. Orange bigg
      Orange bigg 13 December 2020 14: 17
      -1
      arrays of real estate owned by our oligarchs, banks

      The oligarchs have not ruled this country for a long time. They are participants in a public-private partnership. If they refuse to cooperate, then the state will find other partners. Strategic enterprises can always be nationalized, bought, forced to change owners.
    3. The popuas
      The popuas 13 December 2020 18: 25
      0
      In case of trouble, who needs to be taken out! wink Britain is Albion .... if they run like rats, then let the British begin to worry and wonder what will come to them.
  3. evgen1221
    evgen1221 13 December 2020 14: 00
    +2
    The technology is simple - the military writes anonymously articles in the media and then they themselves refer to these media - you see, it is not we who want money, this society is asking.
    1. Reptiloid
      Reptiloid 13 December 2020 14: 06
      +2
      laughing if 100, 200, 300 articles ---- so the society will ask for it soon
    2. ul_vitalii
      ul_vitalii 13 December 2020 14: 12
      0
      This is so, of course, the media are no less pressing their tail in response. The law of conservation ... hell knows what and who. yes
  4. A good one
    A good one 13 December 2020 14: 02
    -3
    Anglo-Saxons pee and poop, but continue to eat the cactus. This appetite to them in one place, as well as an exit without fervor and scratch.
  5. _Ugene_
    _Ugene_ 13 December 2020 14: 04
    0
    Our adversary is already choosing with which weapon to defeat us, while we do not have enough leadership and innovation.
    straight asleep and see how we are conquering Britain and with what weapon, this hysteria "Russia will soon seize us" will end when? Everyone is already tired of the order, and no one is afraid of how much you can intimidate your citizens
  6. rocket757
    rocket757 13 December 2020 14: 05
    +1
    Well, there is no need to encourage "British scientists", to procreate, to work wisely, and not to spit on everyone.
    1. ul_vitalii
      ul_vitalii 13 December 2020 14: 15
      +1
      I guess that's the way it should be, it's time to collect stones hi
    2. cniza
      cniza 13 December 2020 17: 55
      +2
      Quote: rocket757
      Well, there is no need to encourage "British scientists", to procreate, to work wisely, and not to spit on everyone.


      They rolled for a long time by inertia, and now everything needs to be worked ...
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 13 December 2020 19: 18
        +1
        Gathering in a big heap, there is always a desire to shift the worries onto someone else.
        Let's see how they will do it now.
        1. cniza
          cniza 13 December 2020 21: 02
          +2
          Yes, even if they start dancing a polka butterfly, they really don't know where to run and what to do ...
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 13 December 2020 21: 36
            +1
            So then, options are possible .... before they knew how to concentrate efforts in the right direction. though it was a long time ago, and they had stronger leaders / leaders ...
            Time will tell.
    3. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 13 December 2020 18: 50
      0
      England withdrew from the EU. There will be no more grants for science.
      Linden scientists will go to the labor exchange, the real ones will start
      work hard, like in the States.
      1. Marconi41
        Marconi41 14 December 2020 13: 42
        0
        Quote: voyaka uh
        Linden scientists will go to the labor exchange, the real ones will start
        work hard, like in the States.

        Or the states, or the states. The fish is looking where it is deeper, and the man is looking for where ... the fish.
  7. Egoza
    Egoza 13 December 2020 14: 06
    +4
    [quote] Our enemy is already choosing what weapon to use to defeat us, [/ quote Well, at least he has no doubt that the Russians will win. Already good! Consider that with this opinion, half of our victory is already in our pocket.
  8. Russ
    Russ 13 December 2020 14: 09
    +4
    Saw, Ben Wallace ... saw! yes
  9. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 13 December 2020 14: 14
    +1
    It remains only to sprinkle England with chalk, as in the ancient anecdote about Dartanyan and Ilya MUROMETS! wassat drinks
  10. askort154
    askort154 13 December 2020 14: 20
    +2
    "Our adversary chooses how to defeat us": British Defense Minister on Russian weapons

    They openly call Russia an enemy, and even an enemy.
    And we continue to call them "partners" or "colleagues". negative
    1. Russ
      Russ 13 December 2020 14: 46
      +1
      Polytes ... yes
  11. Prisoner
    Prisoner 13 December 2020 14: 21
    0
    Wallace isn't even shy. This is what he calls us opponents. Honest "gintilman".
  12. Ros 56
    Ros 56 13 December 2020 14: 51
    -3
    We must not underestimate the accuracy and range of this weapon.

    Oh, they shouldn't.
    Our adversary is already choosing with which weapon to defeat us, while we do not have enough leadership and innovation.

    Oh, you don't.
    And the Zircon hypersonic missile has reached a speed of Mach 8 and "makes it difficult for Britain to take countermeasures." And this despite the fact that Russia has a good command of even conventional weapons.
    And now, summing up all of the above question: so why the hell are you barking at Russia and barking like a gray gelding about a newbie, a vaccine and other interesting things?
    After all, in the end, you can get it very seriously and in the Anglo-Saxon mug. am
  13. sedoj
    sedoj 13 December 2020 15: 05
    -1
    Our adversary is already choosing with which weapon to defeat us, while we do not have enough leadership and innovation.

    Sit quietly, like mice under a broom, and you will be happy. Then no one will touch.
    1. Vovk
      Vovk 13 December 2020 16: 29
      +2
      They make a terrible scarecrow of Russia in the media, because for this you can increase the percentage of GDP for military spending. Now most of the cash flows in the world are aimed at overcoming the caronovirus - supporting medicine and paying benefits. The military is not the lot, because they began to save on them ... the industrial circles did not like it very much. Therefore, in many countries, the old scarecrows a la "The country of evil is about to attack," and public opinion is being prepared not to reduce the costs of the military-industrial complex.
      A short-lived example is Ukraine, in the new budget for 2021 not only an awesome percentage of GDP for military spending is saved, but also the budgets for the SBU and the Police have been increased due to:
      1) reducing the cost of medicine (money was allocated even less than in 2020);
      2) not indexing pensions due to an increase in the minimum salary,
      3) halving the cost of education and canceling the indexation of salary in 2021 due to an increase in the minimum salary.
      In Ukraine, they were scared by the "LAND OF EVIL RUSSIA", which was about to attack ... as usual.
      1. sedoj
        sedoj 13 December 2020 17: 57
        +1
        But, judging by these plans:

        Ukraine wants to attack itself and surrender faster. Since there is neither money nor desire to restore the destroyed industry. One hope is in Russia.
  14. Overlock
    Overlock 13 December 2020 16: 44
    +31
    If the enemy praises, what is it for?
  15. Kushka
    Kushka 13 December 2020 20: 05
    -2
    But one that does not praise (the first Russian Jew, capraz of the USA)
    - Let's now clarify your rank in the American army.
    - My rank is equal to the captain of the 1st rank. But our ranks are slightly different than yours. Our whole system is different. And so that our spectators do not fall asleep ... Our armed forces are not built on officers. Our armed forces are built on sergeants - on professional soldiers. Officers are such managers. Therefore, we have very few officers and a very rigid pyramid structure. If you are not promoted, you go to the reserve - and goodbye, thanks for your service. All serve only at the request of the president. And when the president no longer needs an officer, he leaves. This is not a guarantee of your job or your service. Therefore, if you are not promoted in rank, you retire. A captain of the 1st rank or colonel is considered a very high rank in our country. We have few such people. This is less than 0,02% in the military.
    - So you are the 1st rank captain of the US armed forces?
    - Yes. Retired.
    - Does this equate to a colonel or a general?
    - Colonel.
    - To the colonel. Are you the first captain of the 1st rank of the US armed forces born in the USSR?
    - I am the first person born in the USSR to become an officer in the armed forces of the United States of America. And thus, of course, I am the first captain of the 1st rank.
    - Wow! I see an unusual ring on your finger. What is this ring?
    - You wear diamonds on your uniforms when you graduate from a military school or institute. We wear such rings. There I have an officer's coat of arms. And this is already from the postgraduate MBA - that I graduated from the MBA.
    - Is it true that these rings are sometimes knocked on the table?
    - Yes. We have those who graduated from military schools - they are called "ring nakers", "snitches". When there is a meeting, the officers start to argue, they knock with this ring and say: "Listen here. Because here I am smart."
    - How old were you when you left the Soviet Union?
    - I was 14 years old

    -
  16. Kushka
    Kushka 13 December 2020 20: 06
    -2
    -The Soviet ship came to us in Newport, and we came to Vladivostok. And this is the first time I was on this ship, which came to Vladivostok.
    - And what are your impressions?
    - I had very stormy impressions. Of course, you can write a book about it. I realized that during all this time nothing had changed: these same roads, these same cars, these same Soviet houses, ugly ... But I had more impressions about the military: the army is a slave ...
    - Slave?
    - Of course, slave. It can be seen that these sailors, soldiers undernourished, unkempt, walk in some form of the First World War of the French army, something similar, unkempt ... All ours were poured, as they say, with milk, healthy, disciplined, did not shy away from the officers or from the sergeants. They looked more like prisoners than a professional army, professional soldiers
    - And in the American army the relations of officers with sergeants, with soldiers are partners?
    - They are not partnerships. We, of course, defend democracy, but we do not practice it in the military. They are not partnerships. We have a very strict chain of command, but respectful. We do not use obscene words, we - officers - do not raise our voices. Because if an officer starts yelling or freaking out, it means that he has lost control of himself, it means that he cannot command. His career is over. Probably you could do it well. You should always be ... Voice and demeanor should be monotonous ...
    - The weak shout.
    - Yes. And you must always enter the position of a soldier. Our soldiers eat first in the field, sergeants second, and officers eat last. We have no assault, no hazing, we don't even have a clue, because we have no calls. Rotations are underway. They are professional, they want to be there, no one forces them, they can leave at any time. We have competition - to get into the armed forces.
    - Competition?
    - Of course. We have huge competition. Not everyone is accepted into the armed forces, even the rank and file. And we pay big money for this, big benefits: studies, medicine and everything else. And then we don't have a barracks position. Hazing came out of the war, when the life of a young soldier is worthless. The old soldiers don't even want to know his name, because they'll kill him in 15 minutes. His life is worthless - it's cannon fodder. We don't have that. Every life of a soldier in our country is a huge responsibility and a lot of money. For a soldier, in my opinion, today, if he is killed in hostilities, a million dollars is paid only to his family. And the rest is worth several million more. I don't want to bet money on human life.
    Therefore, we have a responsibility. The soldier has served, defended his watch and, if he is not on a campaign, he gets into the car and goes to his home, apartment or house. But if he is not wearing his seatbelt and has an accident, even an officer and a sergeant can be held responsible for it. Because he, then, is not disciplined. Therefore, when you see a movie or news, you see that all our soldiers have their helmets fastened, their fingers on the triggers ... We do not have these on armored personnel carriers with Rambo bandanas ... We do not have this. It only happens in the movies, in Hollywood. Therefore, there is no hazing, but our chain of command is strict.
    Here it is based on the fact that patriotism is being brought up there, everyone is being brought up there, that "you are one team and without a team you cannot do anything alone, but with a team you can do everything, you have to think and take care of your neighbor, about your subordinate - and then you will be safe, you will not be shot in the back. " And they are brought up with us that if something happens to you, they will take care of you, your family will be taken care of. And you shouldn't think about where your family lives, what they eat, where your children go to school. And if, God forbid, misfortune happens to you, you are hurt, then you are provided with everything. And if you serve with honor and valor for 20 years, you can retire with pride - and you will always be a handshake and respected person.
    1. fif21
      fif21 14 December 2020 08: 26
      0
      Quote: Kushka
      All of our people were filled with milk, as they say, healthy, disciplined, did not shy away from officers or from sergeants. They looked more like prisoners than a professional army, professional soldiers

      This is why mattress mats will never defeat the Russians, and not because you have bad weapons, they are good enough. But because you have no brains. hi
  17. Kushka
    Kushka 13 December 2020 20: 06
    -2
    I can tell you a little story. Once I was driving with my friend, a close person - he then had a Lincoln in Moscow. Old Lincoln, which was great. I rode in front with him. Behind was his son, who was four years old, like my daughter. And a policeman stops us. For some reason, a police major. I could not understand in any way, "and who is in command of the battalion, why the major is here, and he should be the chief of staff or battalion commander, and he is standing in the street and stopping the cars." (Laughs.)
    - Moscow ...
    - And he says: "I wish you good health. I am a major there ... the 38th department there. You violated there." He takes out the rights, gives him the rights and says: "I have not violated anything." And he opens it like that, and there - I don't remember now how much money, but it was equated to three dollars. And I said to him: "Wait. You just gave him a bribe, or what?" - "Well yes". I say, "What, he's for three dollars?" He tells us: "Drive carefully ..." And I wanted to go out and tear off the shoulder straps from this major: "Aren't you ashamed ?!" This one said: "Hey, sit. You will do this in America." - "How? A whole major for three dollars ... He didn't fine you."
    Then we go ... I tell him: "You see, Dima, your son just saw this and he already knows that the major can be bought for three dollars. This is wrong. You will never get out of this situation in which you are." A month later I come to America, drive my car, and my daughter sits in the back. A policeman stops me. With us, if a police officer told you to get out of the car, you are arrested, in principle - 99,9% that he will arrest you. A policeman comes up to me and says: "Please, your documents. Your inspection is overdue." Having already been in Russia for a long time, I learned many things. I give him my rights, then I give him my diplomatic passport, I say: "See? I just arrived two days ago. There is a stamp." And your military ID. "I am a military man and neither less nor more, but a captain of the 1st rank."
    He took it all, went to the car. Comes back and says, "Get out of the car." I think: "Mom ... I thought he would let me go. I'm already used to it in the Soviet Union." He says, "Get out of the car." I got out of the car and he said to me: "Since you are a diplomat, you represent our country in other cultures. Therefore, it is indecent to wave ksivas." And he gives me a diplomatic passport. "Since you are a military man, you must be a disciplined person. And you are also of a high rank. Therefore, you must go now and have a checkup." And gives me my military ID back. And then he says: "And here's your license and a $ 150 fine." I stand and think: "Ugh ..." He says: "Do you have any questions for me?" - "I have one". - "Please. How can I be of help?" - "Why did I have to get out of the car?" He says: "I didn't mean to scold you in front of your child. Have a nice day." These are different cultures.
  18. Kushka
    Kushka 13 December 2020 20: 10
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    And at the end of our conversation, I want to ask you: as the United States of America, which you served for 30 years as a combat officer, a marine ... You became a captain ...
    - I was assigned to the Marine Corps.
    - You have become a rank 1 captain. Tell me: how did the United States thank you? Let's list what you received from your country for serving it worthily. Now I am going to ask questions. Can we talk about your salary when you were a captain of the 1st rank?
    - Yes of course. It's open.
    - How much did you earn a month?
    - You see, there is what you earn - and it is paid with taxes, and there is what you are given as rations that are not taxed.
    - Give money: "clean" in your hands.
    Well, in general, to define ... Colonel or captain 1st rank, who served 25-26 years, gets somewhere around $ 15 thousand.
    - $ 15 thousand per month.
    - But, understand, we have very few colonels and captains of the 1st rank and lieutenant colonels.
    - Good. Nevertheless, here's $ 15 a month. Any more rations?
    - No. This is 15. But I say: in order to live in the style in which I lived, I had to earn $ 15 thousand.
    - So. Further. You are now retired.
    - Yes, retired.
    - How much is your pension?
    - It makes up about half of the salary. And then you still get allowances ... No, not half. Half is after 20 years of experience. These are mainly majors who leave after 20 years of service. It means that if you are a lieutenant colonel, we consider that you have a successful career. This is usually 22-26 years old. They can get something 26% after 70 years.
    - And you?
    - I get it today ... And if you have injuries, if you have received any injuries, it all adds up. In my case, I get somewhere between $ 9,5-10 thousand per month.
    - $ 10 thousand a month - your pension?
    - Yes. But this is not a pension. This is what the navy pays me. My pension will start at 65.
    1. panov_panov
      panov_panov 13 December 2020 23: 55
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      Anatoly read your comments with pleasure, from myself I can say not to underestimate a potential enemy, but you shouldn't overestimate either, these well-fed, close-knit super professionals whom our compatriot described who emigrated for a better life in childhood, received cabbage soup from half-naked undernourished in Vietnam, get stuck for 15 years in Afghanistan, sawing the military budget worse than ours. There are changes for the better in our armed forces in comparison with the period of the EBN or the late USSR, and this is what these most Western "super pros" admit, gritting their teeth.
      1. Kushka
        Kushka 14 December 2020 00: 09
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        Yes, he wove a lot, and besides, not the first freshness.
        And he is not a fighter, career.
        But it's not lying - about the majors of the traffic police on the Moscow rings
        any long-range fighter will tell you how they are in felt boots
        to the driver's question "Where to Ryazan?" the finger of the mitten was lifted
        ruble, then. But who drove his ambassador to hot spots,
        Yes, about prisons and garrisons, I don't understand.
        By the way, his daughter is also a naval officer.
  19. fif21
    fif21 14 December 2020 08: 05
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    Small-haired even from the island will not be able to escape. The great-grandchildren of the FAA have put an end to island invulnerability. And there is no need to make Uncle Vova angry, he is now holding the key (button) to European security. hi
  20. Esoteric
    Esoteric 14 December 2020 17: 29
    +1
    Don't underestimate the British. There are brains there, and very good brains. And a great engineering school, the same in place.
  21. Alex347482
    Alex347482 18 December 2020 14: 50
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    Judging by the words of the British Secretary of Defense “our enemy chooses how to defeat us”, it turns out that this Great Britain wants to attack Russia. How else to take his words? They will attack and think that we will pat them on the head? He is not a minister, but some kind of degradant.