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APRKSN "Vladimir Monomakh" fired a salvo of four ICBMs "Bulava"

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APRKSN "Vladimir Monomakh" fired a salvo of four ICBMs "Bulava"

Nuclear-powered missile submarine strategic cruiser (APRKSN) of project 955 "Vladimir Monomakh" Pacific fleet RF fired a salvo of four Bulava ballistic missiles. This was reported by the press service of the Ministry of Defense.


According to the report, the Russian Borey, while in the Sea of ​​Okhotsk, fired four Bulava missiles from a submerged position, hitting targets at the Chizha training ground in the Arkhangelsk region. The Ministry of Defense noted that the crew of the submarine cruiser fired a salvo of missiles for the first time.

A salvo launch of missiles was carried out from a submerged position from the Sea of ​​Okhotsk at the Chizha training ground in the Arkhangelsk region. The flight of the Bulava ballistic missiles took place in the normal mode. According to the confirmed data of objective control, the missile warheads successfully arrived in the specified area of ​​the Chizha battlefield

- said in a statement.


"Vladimir Monomakh" is the second serial submarine of the project 955 "Borey", is part of the 25th submarine division of the Pacific Fleet based in Vilyuchinsk. Laid down at Sevmash in 2006, launched in 2012, transferred to the Navy in 2014. Belongs to the fourth generation of submarines. The main armament is 16 R-30 Bulava intercontinental ballistic missiles.

The R-30 "Bulava" ICBM is a three-stage solid-propellant missile designed to arm promising nuclear submarine strategic missile carriers of the Borey project. Range - up to 11 thousand km, launch weight - 36,8 tons, throw weight - 1,15 tons. The missile is capable of carrying six warheads of individual guidance.
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  1. Insurgent
    Insurgent 12 December 2020 16: 59
    +31
    APRKSN "Vladimir Monomakh" fired a salvo of four ICBMs "Bulava"

    The salvo firing of four missiles has already become a kind of "single standard" for both the Russian Navy and the US Navy.
    The only difference is that 4 Trident missiles is the maximum that the Americans fired from their Ohio.
    On the account of the USSR Navy, during operations "Begemot" (1989) and "Begemot-2" (1991), a salvo of 8 missiles (half ammunition) and 16 missiles, that is, full ammunition, was fired ...
    1. bayard
      bayard 12 December 2020 17: 12
      +25
      This is kind of like the first launch from east to west - there have been no launches from the Sea of ​​Okhotsk since the days of the Union.
      1. Bashkirkhan
        Bashkirkhan 12 December 2020 17: 21
        +49
        Maksim Klimov recently wrote on VO and other resources of the article that Bulava can only fly from west to east, but cannot fly from east to west. And it’s how it happened, it could go to the west.
        1. Rostov Papa
          Rostov Papa 12 December 2020 17: 28
          -33%
          I do not know what to write on this topic. Therefore, I will not write anything.
          1. Temples
            Temples 12 December 2020 19: 45
            +10
            And who is Maxim Klimov? request
            If what he writes is a lie, then maybe such an ignoramus doesn't remember?

            Well done submariners. good
            And all the more well done engineers! good
            Hurray everyone! good
            1. Alien From
              Alien From 13 December 2020 02: 11
              -4
              The name and surname are written with a capital letter.
          2. Rostov Papa
            Rostov Papa 13 December 2020 08: 22
            +1
            With humor on VO problems ...
        2. Aerodrome
          Aerodrome 12 December 2020 17: 28
          +1
          The Project 955 Vladimir Monomakh strategic nuclear missile submarine (APRKSN) of the Russian Pacific Fleet fired a salvo of four Bulava ballistic missiles
          cool ... respect to the crew! I imagine how the boat "sank" during a volley, according to the stories of the submarine, spectacular ... good
          1. Bogatyrev
            Bogatyrev 12 December 2020 18: 37
            +10
            So there the compensation pumps are turned on. And no jolts are visible in the video.
            1. Narak-zempo
              Narak-zempo 12 December 2020 19: 10
              -8
              Quote: Bogatyrev
              So there the compensation pumps are turned on. And no jolts are visible in the video.

              So there was no video from the inside of the boat at the moment of the direct salvo.
              1. Bogatyrev
                Bogatyrev 12 December 2020 23: 34
                +3
                But the people sit quietly evenly. It doesn’t sound like sharp jerks.
          2. Alien From
            Alien From 13 December 2020 03: 58
            +2
            From the shoulder straps it is clear that you are land-based, despite your nickname. Imagine in civilian life, the takeoff of 4 planes, and you are inside each at the same time ...... Respect to the submariners! hi
            1. MrFox
              MrFox 14 December 2020 11: 48
              +1
              Everyone at the same time? This is already quantum physics
          3. Podvodnik
            Podvodnik 13 December 2020 10: 41
            +7
            I can imagine how the boat "sank" during a volley


            There is such a thing as "normal start conditions" in abbreviated form "NUS". Their presence should be reported before shooting. There are several parameters. Depth is one of them. There are limitations in depth. If the boat goes beyond them, start is impossible. The product and the system operation algorithm are designed for a certain depth. Therefore, the boat must keep the depth, and the situation "I imagine the boat" sank "during the salvo" is unacceptable. Look at the video - something at the combat posts is suspended by elastic bands - they do not walk back and forth with a volley. Ie the boat is relatively stable.
        3. Insurgent
          Insurgent 12 December 2020 17: 29
          +17
          Quote: Bashkirkhan
          Maksim Klimov recently wrote on the VO article that Bulava can only fly from west to east, but cannot fly from east to west.

          Well if Maxim Klimov said ... Of course he can't. And these 4 things are just stupid, they don't know how yet correctly, "in Klimovsky" to fly...
          1. La Peruse
            La Peruse 12 December 2020 17: 43
            -75%
            We begin to disassemble ... There was NO volley !!! There were sequential launches ... One left as usual ... Nice of course ... But the fate of 2 of the three who did not work properly is clear. Stupidly collapsed
            1. Dodikson
              Dodikson 12 December 2020 18: 14
              +27
              Did Klimov or the commander of the Navy personally report to you?
              1. La Peruse
                La Peruse 12 December 2020 19: 06
                -54%
                I watched it stupidly ... I live here, unlike you uryakolak
                1. lucul
                  lucul 12 December 2020 19: 10
                  +26
                  I watched it stupidly ... I live here, unlike you uryakolak

                  Also observed from the underwater position? )))
                  1. La Peruse
                    La Peruse 12 December 2020 19: 18
                    -51%
                    Is it from underwater? They let them in from the positional ... they're not suicides
                    1. lucul
                      lucul 12 December 2020 19: 24
                      +13
                      Is it from underwater? They let them in from the positional ... they're not suicides

                      Maybe you were observing something wrong?
                      The article is written in black and white
                      According to the report, the Russian "Borey", being in the waters of the Sea of ​​Okhotsk, fired four Bulava missiles from underwater
                      1. Dodikson
                        Dodikson 12 December 2020 19: 44
                        +30
                        from his chamber it is not visible from what position the volley was.
                        it's just that his curator ordered him to vomit in the direction that the missiles did not fly, he vomited, but the fact that it failed technically was not his fault, the curator did not warn him about it.
                    2. Alex777
                      Alex777 12 December 2020 19: 47
                      0
                      Is it from underwater? They started up from the positional ...

                      What does it mean in your opinion: "From the positional start up"?
                    3. Boa kaa
                      Boa kaa 12 December 2020 19: 49
                      +19
                      Quote: La Peruse
                      Is it from underwater? They let them in from the positional ... they're not suicides
                      It reminds me of something ... (c)

                      Oh how! And you, dear fellow, did you skerry in the retractable fence !? belay
                      Well, tady - yes, I saw it myself ... fellow
                      I wanted to ride the last one, like Munchausen, but did not have time ... the little guy slipped ... crying
                      Therefore, in Europe, eh, you will have to spank in Lomonosov style ... sad
                      1. La Peruse
                        La Peruse 12 December 2020 20: 28
                        -51%
                        I had a better opinion of you. As a diver, you are well aware of the problems. Alas and ah, launching rockets are still that fireworks when you are in the sea ... I repeat once again, the Sea of ​​Okhotsk has not been a bastion for a long time ... Elks walk like home here
                      2. Boa kaa
                        Boa kaa 13 December 2020 00: 08
                        +10
                        Quote: La Peruse
                        Moose are walking at home here

                        Namesake, do not repeat nonsense after stupid alarmist provocateurs! The Pacific Fleet is deployed MGK-607, which is associated with the Delta. Therefore, at 200 km there is no smell of moose ...
                      3. La Peruse
                        La Peruse 13 December 2020 05: 52
                        -16%
                        Namesake. It does not work regularly ... the Sea of ​​Okhotsk is a hole !!! The border guards drive the Japanese to Kamchatka. As you go out for a Cambola, you look at these races so steadily. Well, there is nothing to cover ... Just nothing. BOHR forever at sea ...
                      4. Fizik M
                        Fizik M 14 December 2020 19: 33
                        -3
                        Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
                        Namesake, do not repeat nonsense after stupid alarmist provocateurs! The Pacific Fleet is deployed MGK-607, which is associated with the Delta. Therefore, at 200 km there is no smell of moose ...

                        You are now telling "fairy tales of the Vienna woods".
                        This has nothing to do with reality.
                        well, the Lexins are not fools to lie - and this is a FACT
                    4. Captain45
                      Captain45 13 December 2020 10: 44
                      +6
                      Quote: La Peruse
                      But the fate of 2 of the three who did not work on a regular basis is clear. Stupidly collapsed

                      Quote: La Peruse
                      I watched it stupidly ... I live here, unlike you uryakolak

                      Quote: La Peruse
                      I repeat once again, the Sea of ​​Okhotsk has not been a bastion for a long time ... Elks walk like home here

                      Would you be stupidly determined, where are you? In the Arkhangelsk region, where rockets fall short of flying, or in the Sea of ​​Okhotsk, where Elks walk? Do you know how such a split is called in psychiatry? song.
            2. Dodikson
              Dodikson 12 December 2020 19: 43
              +7
              and from which ward did you observe it?
              Can you tell me the name of the drug? I want to see the same.
              1. Captain45
                Captain45 13 December 2020 10: 47
                +4
                Quote: Dodikson
                Can you tell me the name of the drug? I want to see the same

                You would be more careful with the drugs, otherwise it will carry away, like those rockets or this patient into the vast distance laughing
            3. voyaka uh
              voyaka uh 12 December 2020 19: 50
              +8
              "I watched it stupidly ... I live here, unlike you" ///
              -----
              You live in the Far East near the Sea of ​​Okhotsk
              and have you personally seen the night flight trajectories of these 4 missiles?
              And you claim that only one trajectory was
              visually normal, 2 missiles fell shortly after launch,
              and one more rocket - unclear?
              1. La Peruse
                La Peruse 12 December 2020 20: 24
                -30%
                Exactly
                1. minomoto
                  minomoto 13 December 2020 01: 19
                  +4
                  Why didn't you capture all this on your phone?
                  1. Dodikson
                    Dodikson 13 December 2020 16: 21
                    -2
                    the phone was charging. like when the RPG kakli Armata was gouged.
            4. minomoto
              minomoto 13 December 2020 01: 50
              +7
              Can you write a specific place and time from where you observed all this?
              1. Arthur 85
                Arthur 85 13 December 2020 12: 41
                +3
                He swam after the boat in a submerged position, like Indiana Jones, what is there unclear? And the phone in my pocket was wet and icy. laughing
        4. Paranoid50
          Paranoid50 12 December 2020 18: 25
          +22
          Quote: La Peruse
          We begin to disassemble ...

          laughing laughing laughing Oh, here are the Klimovskys pulled up.
          Quote: La Peruse
          Stupidly collapsed

          And here we have already managed to remove Klimov himself. fellow wassat
          Day is done, very grateful. hi
          1. La Peruse
            La Peruse 12 December 2020 19: 08
            -55%
            Miracle in feathers?!! Are you from DV ?! Have you seen these (so-called bastion) Elks walk like home !!! It was funny to me when esm got in ... Yes, our BOD stupidly inferior to him in speed ... You are stupid people
            1. Dodikson
              Dodikson 12 December 2020 19: 46
              +16
              Are you a Russophobe by nature, or are you paid for it?
              1. La Peruse
                La Peruse 12 December 2020 21: 19
                -25%
                Listen!! You rip your ass off and come and look at the 25th submarine division !! Where the fuck are only 4 boats more or less capable of doing something. Urya shout on the couch further
                1. Dodikson
                  Dodikson 13 December 2020 00: 07
                  +5
                  and if I come, then I will see from the shore how SLBMs leave the SSBN in a SUBWATER position?
                  1. Podvodnik
                    Podvodnik 13 December 2020 10: 49
                    +2
                    I will see from the shore how SLBMs come out of the SSBN in a SUBWATER position?


                    The launch site itself is unlikely. They shoot from a polygon that will not be located directly near the coast. Security, secrecy, away from civilian routes, etc. Over the horizon, definitely.
                    But the trajectories of the missiles themselves and the flight along an ascending trajectory with a clear sky is easy.
                  2. Dodikson
                    Dodikson 13 December 2020 16: 19
                    -3
                    so that passenger wrote that he saw from the shore how BRs were leaving the submarine.
                    and therefore he knows for sure that everything in the damned rashka is bad.
                  3. Podvodnik
                    Podvodnik 13 December 2020 19: 31
                    +1
                    that passenger wrote that he saw from the shore


                    What can you say, there is also a lot written on the fence, and there is firewood. Perhaps I could not express my thoughts in writing, or I dreamed something, or it seemed. Anything can happen. In direct line of sight from the coast, and this is about 10 miles, depending on the height of the observer, the submarine will not shoot, it is too much to disperse civilians nearby. It's easier to move away to a quiet place.
        5. Xnumx vis
          Xnumx vis 12 December 2020 21: 20
          +14
          Quote: La Peruse
          Miracle in feathers?!! Are you from DV ?! Have you seen these (so-called bastion) Elks walk like home !!! It was funny to me when esm got in ... Yes, our BOD stupidly inferior to him in speed ... You are stupid people

          How, I sympathize with you! lol As I understand! tongue Oaths of Muscovites lie! There is no Crimean bridge, Mosfilm scenery, coronavirus vaccine - water, toy rockets. Hit and drown! bully You just don't go anywhere! The orderlies have left for you.
          1. La Peruse
            La Peruse 12 December 2020 23: 27
            -26%
            Well, drive to Kamchatka and see ... Ulcerate on the sofa further ... And don't forget to send the payment to the Kremlin
            1. Dodikson
              Dodikson 13 December 2020 00: 09
              +6
              to work came to the accursed occupiers?
            2. carstorm 11
              carstorm 11 13 December 2020 00: 25
              +5
              What to see?) You have such gorgeous binoculars that you can see the start in the sea from the shore?)))
            3. jonht
              jonht 13 December 2020 00: 56
              +27
              I'm from Kamchatka, and?
              The base is located in Rybach, and this is the coast of the Berennov Sea, and they shot at the Okhotsk one. And this is more than 200 km in a straight line. Yab still understood if you were called a resident of the village of Oktyabrsky, or there Ozerny. But in this case, it will be by. The coast is flat there and the depths from which the shooting was carried out are very far from the coast, and therefore from the coast you could see a pier. And in the sea close to the borders of the region, no one is allowed, it disperses everyone, and fishermen in the first place.
              So you've seen the big question .....
            4. Xnumx vis
              Xnumx vis 13 December 2020 13: 25
              +4
              Quote: La Peruse
              Well, drive to Kamchatka and see ... Ulcerate on the sofa further ... And don't forget to send the payment to the Kremlin

              That you do not frown bro! Smile! The Americans have written people like you into the Japanese! You are now Japanese! Not that we are Muscovites! A real fat man, Japanese ... So you work off a Japanese mother! Did you pinch your eyes with clothespins, or are you holding them with your fingers?
        6. shkiper83
          shkiper83 13 December 2020 00: 38
          +5
          Have you seen? Can you imagine the size of the Sea of ​​Okhotsk? And from where, from what settlement, can you observe the Elks who have entered or rocket firing? The coast of the Okhotsk Sea is very sparsely populated
    2. bk316
      bk316 12 December 2020 23: 31
      +22
      We begin to disassemble ... There was NO volley !!!

      Wow, damn it, we have a new means of objective controll ... Lapeuse code laughing Presumably advanced biomechanics (tracks the trajectory of an ICBM with the naked eye during an underwater launch at night). For reports, he uses weak Caesar's encryption, shifting the spelling of the Russian language (probably with the aim of blowing up the brain of analysts of a potential enemy).
      1. aszzz888
        aszzz888 13 December 2020 10: 21
        +2

        bk316 (Vladimir)
        Yesterday, 23: 31
        NEW

        +11
        We begin to disassemble ... There was NO volley !!!

        Wow, damn it, we have a new means of objective control. Lapeuse code laughing Presumably advanced biomechanics (tracks the trajectory of an ICBM with the naked eye at night during an underwater launch). For reports, he uses weak Caesar's encryption, shifting the spelling of the Russian language (probably with the aim of blowing up the brain of analysts of a potential enemy).
        Troll canals under the blunt! And the style of writing is oh so familiar!
    3. Podvodnik
      Podvodnik 13 December 2020 10: 44
      +3
      There was NO volley! There were consecutive launches


      Such shooting is called salvo by submariners. The gunners are different. To each his own.
      1. bk316
        bk316 14 December 2020 17: 42
        +1
        The gunners are different.

        Nifiga is not otherwise, I am telling you as an artilleryman.
        Google "Katyusha volley" .....
  2. Rusland
    Rusland 12 December 2020 17: 52
    +14
    Quote: Insurgent
    Maxim Klimov said ...

    Well, at least I didn't decide.yes
  3. Alex777
    Alex777 12 December 2020 19: 43
    +3
    Well, if Maxim Klimov said ...

    Well then ... hi
    From bmpd side Recall that, as noted earlier, to date, none of the two new nuclear-powered missile submarines of strategic designation of Project 2015 (code "Borey") K-2016 "Alexander Nevsky" and K from 955-550 in the Pacific Fleet -551 "Vladimir Monomakh" did not fire ballistic missiles of the "Bulava" complex in the Pacific Fleet - all the firing was carried out by them in the Northern Fleet. According to unofficial reports, in order to realize the possibility of missile firing with the Bulava complex from the Pacific Fleet in the western filling, it was necessary to modernize the telemetric infrastructure of the combat field of the Chizha training ground (Arkhangelsk region), which, apparently, has only been carried out to date. Also, for a long time at the base of the new SSBNs at the Vilyuchinsk base in Kamchatka, there was no reloading infrastructure for the Bulava missiles.
  4. timokhin-aa
    timokhin-aa 12 December 2020 20: 09
    +7
    Don't repeat nonsense after other people. Klimov did not write anything like that.

    Here is a link to Klimov's LiveJournal that shooting is being prepared in 2020, the reason for which there was no earlier shooting is also indicated there. Record dated March 17.

    Link - https://mina030.livejournal.com/19061.html
    Kamchatka "Borei" are preparing to fire "Bulava"

    Quote:
    Taking into account the "wild" and unacceptable situation of such a long break in the practical missile firing of missile submarines of the strategic forces of the Navy's combat staff, it is very likely that it will be completed in 2020. At least one Bulava rocket fire from the Pacific Fleet (against the Chizha battlefield).
    This is certainly very positive, and it is highly likely that this shooting will be successful (given its importance and the appropriate support from the industry).


    Another thing is that before that there were no launches for a very long time, so I wrote about it, yes, and did the right thing.
  5. Andrey NM
    Andrey NM 12 December 2020 20: 11
    +9
    Quote: Insurgent
    Well, if Maxim Klimov said ...

    So Maxim Klimov is a miner like. Minerov at VVMUPP were never taught rocket science and were not allowed to rocket departments.
    1. La Peruse
      La Peruse 12 December 2020 20: 39
      -34%
      My mom is a woman ... my dad is a man !!! This is the army ... I have 5 VUS for 11 years of official service. And not an official carriage and a small cart ... ... It seems that the Arbatsky regiment is sitting here ... A lot of specialists were banned ... Sad ... Very sad
      1. MinskFox
        MinskFox 12 December 2020 23: 20
        +12
        Where did you serve, where did you study? You really can't write without grammatical errors ... Or they pulled 100 and let's cut the truth, or compose.
        1. La Peruse
          La Peruse 12 December 2020 23: 46
          -22%
          Can you still name the V / C numbers? !!! And yes, he drank a lot, income allows. Envy in silence ... Spelling has always been 3, and more often S / M for the content of a solid 5 !!! And those teachers taught me !!! And I received a passport from the USSR
          1. MinskFox
            MinskFox 12 December 2020 23: 54
            +19
            So I don’t envy, what’s there to envy? You may sober up and it will not be very convenient for you for comments, tomorrow and fight as you sober up.
          2. Local from the Volga
            Local from the Volga 13 December 2020 15: 22
            +2
            for 5 VUS the monkey will write in Chinese without errors !!!
      2. Pete mitchell
        Pete mitchell 14 December 2020 02: 24
        +1
        Quote: La Peruse
        ... sad ... very sad

        And how sad we are, we even worry about you, the old man got drunk, so go hung over, and there's nothing ...
        Can you hear these
        Quote: Bloomberg
        https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-12-12/russian-nuclear-submarine-test-fires-4-

        Quote: EuroNews
        https://www.euronews.com/2020/12/12/russian-submarine-test-fires-four-nuclear-missiles-in-western-pacific

        Quote: WashingtonPost
        https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/russian-nuclear-submarine-test-fires-4-missiles/2020/12/12/5a55f076-3c8d-11eb-aad9-8959227280c4_story.html
    2. Podvodnik
      Podvodnik 13 December 2020 10: 53
      +5
      Miners in VVMUPP were never taught rocket science and rocket departments were not allowed

      Of course you are kidding. Although the case of the miners "trumpet", they were admitted at the departments of ballistics and listened to a short course. We saw the models too.
      1. Andrey NM
        Andrey NM 13 December 2020 11: 48
        +4
        In the 80s they were not allowed. Maybe for review lectures once, but I don't remember. Then the building had separate passes for the "Chinese". The layout was brought, if memory serves, in 1985. At night he was pushed into the gates of the building in the backyard, and the captain of the 1st rank Shaposhnikov (the one who was the USSR champion in sambo) in white gloves with such an important look was in charge of this "operation". Then, when I ran in a chemical kit with a PRV on my side, loading the boat and recalled this moment, it became funny.
        But you must admit that rocket men were taught mine business more deeply than rocket miners :).
        1. Sling cutter
          Sling cutter 13 December 2020 11: 55
          +4
          Quote: Andrey NM
          Captain 1st rank Shaposhnikov (who was the USSR champion in sambo) in white gloves with such an important look was in charge of this "operation".

          There is a strong impression that all the St. Petersburg leaders of those times had sambo instead of a head.
          1. Andrey NM
            Andrey NM 13 December 2020 13: 03
            +1
            Quote: Stroporez
            There is a strong impression that all the St. Petersburg leaders of those times had sambo instead of a head.

            When Shaposhnikov became the champion, members of another sambist club, whose "she drowned", who "are against increasing the retirement age and while in power, this will not happen", poking around in the sandbox with their little shovels ...
        2. Podvodnik
          Podvodnik 13 December 2020 12: 29
          +5
          rocket men were taught mine business more deeply than rocket miners :).


          We all learned a little bit of something and somehow. I still communicate with my "miner". Among them, too, literate come across. Fishing is his second vocation. Fan.

          We can only rejoice for the crew and the ship, which have confirmed their ability to complete the combat mission if something happens.
        3. 2534M
          2534M 15 February 2021 12: 46
          0
          Quote: Andrey NM
          But you must admit that rocket men were taught mine business more deeply than rocket miners :).

          Neighing Aki horse lol
          over SELF-CONFIDENCE OF SHORE ROCKERS
  • Alesi13
    Alesi13 12 December 2020 17: 43
    +3
    What is the problem with the compass
  • APASUS
    APASUS 12 December 2020 18: 46
    +3
    Quote: Bashkirkhan
    Maksim Klimov recently wrote on VO and other resources of the article that Bulava can only fly from west to east, but cannot fly from east to west. And it’s how it happened, it could go to the west.

    Complete nonsense wrote. And as then the rocket routes go through the joint venture, there everything after the pole goes from north to south. There orientation according to other rules in general.
    1. timokhin-aa
      timokhin-aa 12 December 2020 20: 07
      +2
      Klimov did not write anything like that.

      Here is a link to Klimov's LiveJournal that shooting is being prepared in 2020, the reason for which there was no earlier shooting is also indicated there. Record dated March 17.

      Link - https://mina030.livejournal.com/19061.html
      Kamchatka "Borei" are preparing to fire "Bulava"

      Quote:
      Taking into account the "wild" and unacceptable situation of such a long break in the practical missile firing of missile submarines of the strategic forces of the Navy's combat staff, it is very likely that it will be completed in 2020. At least one Bulava rocket fire from the Pacific Fleet (against the Chizha battlefield).
      This is certainly very positive, and it is highly likely that this shooting will be successful (given its importance and the appropriate support from the industry).


      Before that, it was such that there are boats, but no launches. And for a very long time.
  • tol100v
    tol100v 12 December 2020 18: 59
    +4
    Quote: Bashkirkhan
    And it’s how it happened, it could go to the west.

    We can not, but we CAN! (Only old people go to battle!)
  • timokhin-aa
    timokhin-aa 12 December 2020 19: 53
    +1
    No need to juggle.

    Here is a link to Klimov's LiveJournal that shooting is being prepared in 2020, the reason for which there was no earlier shooting is also indicated there. Record dated March 17.

    Link - https://mina030.livejournal.com/19061.html
    Kamchatka "Borei" are preparing to fire "Bulava"

    Quote:
    Taking into account the "wild" and unacceptable situation of such a long break in the practical missile firing of missile submarines of the strategic forces of the Navy's combat staff, it is very likely that it will be completed in 2020. At least one Bulava rocket fire from the Pacific Fleet (against the Chizha battlefield).
    This is certainly very positive, and it is highly likely that this shooting will be successful (given its importance and the appropriate support from the industry).


    No need to throw such unfounded announcements.
  • bayard
    bayard 13 December 2020 13: 18
    +2
    Maxim wrote that the western training ground is not ready to receive warheads - in terms of technical equipment with control equipment. But he also wrote that without the western training ground, firing practice from the Sea of ​​Okhotsk is impossible, just as it is impossible to check the combat readiness of Kamchatka missile carriers.
    The current launches have shown that Russia now has two equipped training grounds, which means that the Pacific SSBNs will be able to make training launches to test their own combat readiness.
    Moreover, a salvo launch! The news is doubly good.
  • Fizik M
    Fizik M 14 December 2020 19: 32
    0
    Quote: Bashkirkhan
    Maksim Klimov recently wrote on VO and other resources of the article that Bulava can only fly from west to east, but cannot fly from east to west. And it’s how it happened, it could go to the west.

    Monsieur Bashkirkhan, YOU ARE A LIAR
    YOU are capable of proving your nonsense?
    as in fact: https://mina030.livejournal.com/19061.html
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      2. 2534M
        2534M 11 February 2021 14: 59
        -1
        Quote: Bashkirkhan
        Don't write me any more. At least agreed with my comment

        those. for waving his LIE language YOU are not able to answer personally
  • figwam
    figwam 12 December 2020 18: 02
    +2
    Quote: bayard
    It's kind of like the first east-west launch

    Well, as if hinting if that.
  • lucul
    lucul 12 December 2020 18: 05
    +10
    This is kind of like the first launch from east to west - there have been no launches from the Sea of ​​Okhotsk since the days of the Union.

    To fire a bullet from the Sea of ​​Okhotsk into the Arkhangelsk region, you need to be sure that the missile has sufficient accuracy. It is not from the White Sea to launch into the Sea of ​​Okhotsk, anyway, no one will be harmed there in case of erroneous aiming.
    This means there is confidence in the weapon, since they were not afraid to launch a missile into the European part of Russia.
    1. timokhin-aa
      timokhin-aa 12 December 2020 19: 55
      +15
      Stop talking nonsense. There was no firing from the Pacific Fleet because the berthing and transshipment complex for the Bulava was built only this year. Before that, shooting SLBMs would mean that the submarine had to go to the Northern Fleet to load new missiles. Therefore, they did not shoot.

      Get out of the habit of talking nonsense!
      1. lucul
        lucul 12 December 2020 20: 02
        0
        Get out of the habit of talking nonsense!

        This is for you, not me)))
        1. timokhin-aa
          timokhin-aa 12 December 2020 20: 03
          -1
          And of course you think that you are very convincing.
          1. lucul
            lucul 12 December 2020 20: 07
            +2
            And of course you think that you are very convincing.

            Not always for me, but you are always overconfident.
      2. bk316
        bk316 12 December 2020 23: 34
        +2
        Stop talking nonsense.

        By and large, this is unimportant (NOT IMPORTANT FOR RF). Even if it's all about the quay complex, it was obviously built.
  • nnm
    nnm 12 December 2020 19: 42
    0
    https://m.lenta.ru/news/2020/12/12/detale/ в развитие темы.
  • Andrey NM
    Andrey NM 12 December 2020 17: 37
    +12
    The first Behemoth was an emergency one, nothing left there. At one time, 8 pieces were produced by the K-140 boat in 1968. It was later converted, more precisely, a modernized project 667a boat for a solid fuel complex. And the Bogachev crew fired twice with full ammunition on the 941st project. Thus, the D-19 missiles were disposed of.
    1. La Peruse
      La Peruse 12 December 2020 17: 45
      -28%
      Yes, operation hippopotamus is too much extolled. It was after it that there was a derektiva ... It's not a garbage to toil, but to run consistently ...
      1. Andrey NM
        Andrey NM 12 December 2020 17: 47
        +24
        Quote: La Peruse
        Yes, operation hippopotamus is too much extolled. It was after it that there was a derektiva ... It's not a garbage to toil, but to run consistently ...

        Don't understand what it means consistently? Do you think they all crash at once?
        1. La Peruse
          La Peruse 12 December 2020 18: 03
          -50%
          A volley at once !!! The RKPSN cannot do that ... Only consistently. I know what a volley is and consistently I am shooting at the command Volley ... You just don't have to be misled ... We have here and so a lot of patriots piss boiling water without understanding the meaning.
          1. Dodikson
            Dodikson 12 December 2020 18: 15
            +35
            even? please decipher the abbreviation MLRS.
            and show me a video of how all the rockets fly out of the Grad at once
          2. Andrey NM
            Andrey NM 12 December 2020 18: 22
            +26
            Quote: La Peruse
            A volley at once !!! The RKPSN cannot do that ...

            Alexander, GRADs also shoot sequentially, there all 40 pieces do not fly out at once, but this is called a salvo. The missiles are picked up in a salvo, but fly out consistently. Imagine if Ohio launched all 24 missiles at the same time. There, after the one-time operation of the powder bombs, which then generate gases to push the rocket out, the boat will simply fall apart. I don’t know how on Ohio, but on the 941st project, such a checker weighed more than 450 kg.
            1. Ingvar 72
              Ingvar 72 12 December 2020 18: 25
              +8
              Quote: Andrey NM
              the boat will just fall apart.

              Anyone who has ever fired a doublet understands this! laughing
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            3. Bad_gr
              Bad_gr 13 December 2020 00: 38
              +2
              Quote: Andrey NM
              GRADS also shoot sequentially, all 40 pieces do not fly out at once, but this is called a salvo.

              This is called a "salvo" because the ENTIRE battery starts firing at the same time. And it doesn't matter if it is "grads" or howitzers. One howitzer (or "hail") will not fire in one volley.
          3. Boris ⁣ Shaver
            Boris ⁣ Shaver 12 December 2020 19: 11
            +21
            Quote: La Peruse
            urya patriots piss with boiling water

            Someone in your head - that one. Boiling water. But apparently, they were urya collaborators.
            You tilt your head and jump on one leg - maybe at least part of it will merge through your ears.
      2. Local from the Volga
        Local from the Volga 13 December 2020 15: 26
        +1
        Would you walk out of here ... catch fish ...
    2. Insurgent
      Insurgent 12 December 2020 17: 45
      +2
      Quote: Andrey NM
      The first Behemoth was emergency, nothing left there.

      Well yes. Forgotten yes Thank you for refreshing your memory.
    3. Foxnova
      Foxnova 12 December 2020 17: 53
      +2
      There was no volley fire. And so to speak, strongly stretched in time
    4. K-612-O
      K-612-O 13 December 2020 01: 05
      +1
      Solid-propellant missiles in the Navy are just a mace, before that they were not
      1. Foxnova
        Foxnova 13 December 2020 01: 23
        +2
        P39 on sharks
  • seregin-s1
    seregin-s1 12 December 2020 18: 01
    +1
    Up to this point, the maximum number of rockets fired from the boat was 8 missiles: 20 December 1969 from the X-140 X-NUMX project "Navaga", missiles were launched in two series of four missiles with a small interval.
    1. Andrey NM
      Andrey NM 12 December 2020 18: 12
      +6
      Quote: seregin-s1
      Up to this point, the maximum number of rockets fired from the boat was 8 missiles: 20 December 1969 from the X-140 X-NUMX project "Navaga", missiles were launched in two series of four missiles with a small interval.

      Sergey, everything is correct. There, the firing logic of the complex was such that a full ammunition load could be fired with two 8-rocket salvos. It seems that the work of the groups of the complex was checked in series of 4 pieces. Only firing was in December 1968, the commander - Captain 2nd Rank Yu.F. Beketov.
      1. seregin-s1
        seregin-s1 12 December 2020 18: 19
        +5
        Well done anyway!
  • CommanderDIVA
    CommanderDIVA 12 December 2020 19: 10
    +1
    On missile launch in the second case, it is well described in the book "Sharks from Steel" by Eduard Ovechkin, in my opinion even Americans were invited to launch missiles
  • Borik
    Borik 12 December 2020 16: 59
    +10
    Soon we will hear the cries of the State Department that Russia has militaristic habits and that it threatens the democratic values ​​of the free world.
    1. frruc
      frruc 12 December 2020 17: 10
      +2
      The next sanctions are already spinning in the brain angry
      1. Lipchanin
        Lipchanin 12 December 2020 17: 22
        +5
        Quote: frruc
        The next sanctions are already spinning in the brain

        They never came out of there.
        There are simply no other thoughts. Sanctions, bastard. Sanctions, bastard.
        And so in a circle like a circus horse in an arena
        1. tol100v
          tol100v 12 December 2020 19: 08
          +6
          Quote: Lipchanin
          They never came out of there.
          There are simply no other thoughts. Sanctions, bastard. Sanctions, bastard.
          And so in a circle like a circus horse in an arena

          What did you expect from the meanest country itself?
    2. Lipchanin
      Lipchanin 12 December 2020 17: 20
      +2
      Quote: Borik
      Soon we will hear the cries of the State Department that Russia has militaristic habits and that it threatens the democratic values ​​of the free world.

      And they have one template and they really like it
      1. Rusland
        Rusland 12 December 2020 17: 55
        +2
        Quote: Lipchanin
        Quote: Borik
        Soon we will hear the cries of the State Department that Russia has militaristic habits and that it threatens the democratic values ​​of the free world.

        And they have one template and they really like it

        Wow hi but with us it sounds like this. This song is old, it's time to forget it. yes
        1. Lipchanin
          Lipchanin 12 December 2020 18: 28
          +3
          Quote: Rusland
          This song is old, it's time to forget it

          Can not request
      2. Cutter
        Cutter 12 December 2020 18: 29
        +6
        And they have one template and they really like it

        Or maybe they don't care about their templates? Onyx, Vanguards, Borei ... The RF Armed Forces launches every month, and they wanted to spit on the "partners" ... Caution, of course, has not been canceled. But believe me, colleagues, pride for Russia is overwhelming ... good
        1. Lipchanin
          Lipchanin 12 December 2020 18: 34
          +4
          Quote: Cutter
          Or maybe they don't care about their templates?

          Spitting for a long time
          But believe me, colleagues, pride for Russia is overwhelming ... good

          I believe I have the same feelings hi
          1. Cutter
            Cutter 12 December 2020 18: 39
            +4
            I believe I have the same feelings hi

            Well, fine! So there are also patriots who want Russia to be powerful and prosperous! It cannot be otherwise ... hi good And if someone wants to bend Russia - oh! bent first ... am
    3. Piramidon
      Piramidon 12 December 2020 17: 32
      +6
      Quote: Borik
      We will soon hear the screams of the State Department

      These screams are more beautiful than any song. good
  • carstorm 11
    carstorm 11 12 December 2020 17: 02
    +4
    this looks powerful of course) even frightening
    1. Lipchanin
      Lipchanin 12 December 2020 17: 36
      +4
      Quote: carstorm 11
      this looks powerful of course) even frightening

      In 1966, Brezhnev invited French President de Gaulle to watch the launch of an ICBM. A salvo launch of the 10th mine baying was shown. After the report that all targets were hit, such a dialogue took place. Not literally, but very close to the meaning.
      D. And are these missiles aimed at France?
      B AND France.
      And to Paris?
      B. And to Paris.
      D. But how is it possible? After all, Paris is the center of world culture. There is the Louvre and much more.
      B. And there is also the NATO headquarters.
      A week later, the headquarters moved to Brussels, and a month later France withdrew from NATO.
      1. Insurgent
        Insurgent 12 December 2020 17: 41
        +12
        Quote: Lipchanin
        A week later, the headquarters moved to Brussels, and a month later France withdrew from NATO.

        Then at the helm of France was a combat general who knew the value of peace. Who now?
        1. Rusland
          Rusland 12 December 2020 17: 57
          +7
          Quote: Insurgent
          Quote: Lipchanin
          A week later, the headquarters moved to Brussels, and a month later France withdrew from NATO.

          Then at the helm of France was a combat general who knew the value of peace. Who now?

          The old woman's husband. smile
        2. Lipchanin
          Lipchanin 12 December 2020 18: 29
          +2
          Quote: Insurgent
          Then at the helm of France was a combat general who knew the value of peace. Who now?

          Chatterbox and Poser
        3. tol100v
          tol100v 12 December 2020 19: 15
          +1
          Quote: Insurgent
          ... Now who

          LGBT!
        4. Boris ⁣ Shaver
          Boris ⁣ Shaver 12 December 2020 19: 18
          +2
          Quote: Insurgent
          Now who?

          Fighting henpecked.
      2. Starover_Z
        Starover_Z 12 December 2020 17: 50
        +1
        Quote: Lipchanin
        D. But how is it possible? After all, Paris is the center of world culture. There is the Louvre and much more.
        B. And there is also the NATO headquarters.
        A week later, the headquarters moved to Brussels, and a month later France withdrew from NATO.

        I haven't heard that - EXCELLENT! good drinks They only understand everything from bad examples!
        1. Lipchanin
          Lipchanin 12 December 2020 18: 30
          0
          Quote: Starover_Z
          I haven't heard that - EXCELLENT!

          An officer whom I respected very much told me this.
          He told interesting stories about Korolev
  • Tank jacket
    Tank jacket 12 December 2020 17: 13
    +7
    Any exercise is an element of the information war ...
    To be remembered and feared ...
    "Why do we need a world in which there will be no Russia?" (C)
  • Senka naughty
    Senka naughty 12 December 2020 17: 14
    0
    Few people still realized that ICBMs were flying not from right to left, but from left to right ..
    1. svp67
      svp67 12 December 2020 17: 17
      +7
      Quote: Senka Mad
      Few people still realized that ICBMs were flying not from right to left, but from left to right ..

      The main thing is that those where these missiles can land, in case of war, should realize this.
      1. Alex777
        Alex777 12 December 2020 18: 59
        +2
        The main thing is that those where these missiles can land, in case of war, should realize this.

        So it was a "powerful signal" to the whole of Europe. bully
    2. Insurgent
      Insurgent 12 December 2020 17: 20
      +6
      Quote: Senka Mad
      Few people still realized that ICBMs were flying not from right to left, but from left to right ..

      Not only to the right and to the left, but also through the North and South Poles yes that some in Washington DC don't like OCCH
    3. Lipchanin
      Lipchanin 12 December 2020 17: 24
      +6
      Quote: Senka Mad
      that ICBMs were flying not from right to left, but from left to right ..

      Maybe all the same, not from west to east, but from east to west?
      1. Senka naughty
        Senka naughty 12 December 2020 17: 43
        0
        Quote: Lipchanin
        Maybe all the same, not from west to east, but from east to west?

        As you wish. Everything for the benefit of future generations.
    4. Piramidon
      Piramidon 12 December 2020 17: 34
      +8
      Quote: Senka Naughty
      Few people still realized that ICBMs were flying not from right to left, but from left to right ..

      Let them now scratch their turnips in Europe, so that they can fly to them from the Pacific Fleet.
  • Old26
    Old26 12 December 2020 17: 18
    +8
    Quote: bayard
    This is kind of like the first launch from east to west - there have been no launches from the Sea of ​​Okhotsk since the days of the Union.

    Were incl. and last year. Shot "Ryazan", but "mace" - really for the first time

    Quote: Insurgent
    APRKSN "Vladimir Monomakh" fired a salvo of four ICBMs "Bulava"

    The salvo firing of four missiles has already become a kind of "single standard" for both the Russian Navy and the US Navy.
    The only difference is that 4 Trident missiles is the maximum that the Americans fired from their Ohio.
    On the account of the USSR Navy, during operations "Begemot" (1989) and "Begemot-2" (1991), a salvo of 8 missiles (half ammunition) and 16 missiles, that is, full ammunition, was fired ...

    I don’t remember how many real rockets were in the "Begemot", but "Begemot-2" - there were 2 missiles and 14 simulators, which stopped flying in 20-30 seconds
    But a maximum of 4 - yes, it has become a "standard"
    1. Insurgent
      Insurgent 12 December 2020 17: 37
      +7
      Quote: Old26
      I don’t remember how many real rockets were in the "Begemot", but "Begemot-2" - there were 2 missiles and 14 simulators, which stopped flying in 20-30 seconds

      Simulators do not diminish the value of the experience of such a volley in any way. After all, the moment of launch is the most difficult stage. Both for the crew, and for equipment, materiel.
      I also do not know how many missiles there were that reached the range (target) in the Begemot, and how many imitators, but the fact is that 8 launches are only part of the planned tests that failed due to technical reasons that led to the creation of an emergency on the nuclear submarine.
      8 missiles are of course already a lot, but more were planned. But it didn't work out ...
      1. Vladimir247
        Vladimir247 12 December 2020 17: 49
        +3
        How many missiles have reached ...
        ----------
        Yes, they all achieved it. Something like there was a minor problem with one head during the flight. There is a movie on YouTube.
    2. Andrey NM
      Andrey NM 12 December 2020 17: 57
      +4
      Quote: Old26
      I don’t remember how many real rockets were in "Begemot", but "Begemot-2" - there were 2 missiles and 14 imitators

      In the first Behemoth, nothing started, only the cover of mine No. 6 of 70 meters flew after the explosion and pierced the Central City Hospital in the nose. And the number of items for the full range and for "jumping out" is the same.
      It is not at all clear what is new and advanced about the Bulava? If we compare the specific parameters of the 3M-65 product and the Bulava in terms of payload, they are approximately the same, with approximately equal range. The last 3M-65 missiles weighed 88 tons. If the Bulava payload is converted to a 3M-65 payload, we get a missile mass of 82 tons. According to these parameters, they are very close. But the D-19 was put into service in 1984, 30 years older than the Bulava.
      I am glad that they began to shoot normally.
      1. MinskFox
        MinskFox 12 December 2020 23: 28
        +4
        There is nothing new and advanced there, except: a flat trajectory, new elements to overcome missile defense, new warheads and a new system for their disengagement and guidance, and so on. They are sitting upstairs, you know better from the sofa.
        1. Andrey NM
          Andrey NM 13 December 2020 09: 23
          +2
          The flat trajectory has long been implemented as a response to the "Star Wars" program, while the firing range is reduced. Elements of overcoming missile defense were implemented on 4K-75 missiles, then, under an agreement with the Americans, these elements were banned. In the breeding system, as there was a "bus", it remained, and the seeker cannot be stuck into the guidance system. Physically impossible. It is clear that technologies do not stand still. The element base, software, algorithms are constantly being improved. Surely improved accuracy. What can be from the missile defense? Maneuvering in the active area. The active time segment itself from the entire flight is a small part.
          About the appearance of "Bulava".
          In the dashing 90s, the Americans sponsored the disposal of everything that did not suit them. Why in the 90s they cut the new Tu-160s, ruined the BZHRK, why did the Americans demand that we curtail our shipbuilding programs, etc.?
          In 1999, the senior representative of the customer from the URAV of the Navy received a letter in Krasnoyarsk to justify the impossibility of further production of 3M-37 and the need to close the enterprise. The officer had the intelligence and courage to gather meetings at the allied enterprises and the head office and prepare documents on the readiness of enterprises for further work and send these documents over his head. As a result, the modernized "Sineva" and "Liner" appeared, and the enterprise is working. If not for the director of KRASMASH V.K. and not a senior military representative, we would have had no liquid-propellant missiles for 20 years, especially the Sineva.
          In 1998, a company consisting of Urinson, Dvorkin, Solomonov, Sergeev and Kuroyedov began to move around the Bulava, decided to intercept financial flows. The land office began to design marine products. Financing was taken away from the Makeev Design Bureau and they began to sculpt. As a result, the rocket flew only after the Makeyevites joined the work. Relatively recently in the media there was information about the order from the Makeyevites to develop a new product for submarines. With an almost equal mass with the Sineva, the Bulava has a lower payload mass and flight range.
          This year, the former general director of KRASMASH, Viktor Kirillovich Gupalov, and retired Kaminsky Yuri Nikiforovich, authorized by the URAV of the Navy, have died. They were directly related to the "Behemoths", and not only to them. Gupalov was my diploma supervisor. My commander and another colleague encouraged me to write a report to get the 1nd higher education at the Reshetnev Aerospace Academy to keep them company, and they even signed our reports to us. They handed over everything as an external student. Oh, those dashing 2s ...
          1. MinskFox
            MinskFox 13 December 2020 14: 10
            +2
            Financial position, Solid fuel mace means cheaper and easier to maintain and manufacture, this is a fact. There was such a time, a decision was made not about what you want, but about what you can, did not go smoothly, but she flies. And, by the way, which naval ballistic missile implements a flat trajectory besides Bulava, and yes, it has a shortened acceleration section (which sea ballistic missiles have it also implemented?), Which also helps in the fight against missile defense.
            1. Andrey NM
              Andrey NM 13 December 2020 15: 42
              +2
              In the 3M-37, the flat trajectory was implemented in the early 90s. In terms of simplicity and safety, this is a difficult question. A solid-propellant rocket is very critical to temperature changes, which leads to the appearance of microcracks in the fuel, and the amount of gases depends on the area of ​​combustion of the fuel. Cheaper? Is not a fact. The thrust vector control on solid propellant rocket motors is more difficult to implement, the nozzles are not cooled, and the thrust itself is also more difficult to control. invented the injection of an inert naza, antifreeze, etc. In addition, production development is important. For liquid-propellant missiles, the main problem was toxic components, but on the last complex, these issues were worked out. In those years, a decision was made to intercept financial flows and the collapse of production. There was no task of replacing the complexes, especially at the end of the 90s, the 667BDRM boats of the project served even less than 10 years, 941 projects - less than 15 years. These were new boats. And such boats are under the knife! And for 941 projects, the replacement of products was prepared, because the 3M-65 missile was made in Ukraine. The strategic submarine 667BDRM of the K-64 project was delivered to the plant and was remade for the carrier of the "loshariks" for 20 (!) Years. Those. For 20 years, there was no strategic submarine as a combat unit, and it was not a fact that it would be converted into a carrier, the calculation was that it would be written off. The topic was taken away from the Makeev Design Bureau, they began to do something, it did not work out, they began to attract the Makeev Design Bureau again, but already in a subcontract, and then the matter moved. I was surprised when a few years ago public procurements on the topic "Bulava" from the Makeev Design Bureau, some materials, something else were posted on the Internet ...
              1. MinskFox
                MinskFox 15 December 2020 22: 32
                0
                Nowhere have I seen that Sineva or Liner have a flat trajectory, maybe the usual one? And Bulava's engine does not work for long, which is also a plus.
                1. Andrey NM
                  Andrey NM 16 December 2020 06: 15
                  0
                  Quote: MinskFox
                  I have never seen that Sineva or Liner have a flat trajectory

                  Even Wikipedia says about it ... But the time of the active site is nowhere to be found.
  • Tank jacket
    Tank jacket 12 December 2020 17: 19
    -6
    Quote: frruc
    The next sanctions are already spinning in the brain angry

    Are you still thinking about Sanktions?
    Small ... like a philistine ... negative
  • Jacket in stock
    Jacket in stock 12 December 2020 17: 20
    +10
    And recently someone wrote here that the Borei Pacific Fleet and their Maces are in a state of incapacity. They say that the manufacturer sold the semi-finished product to the fleet.
    No, it turns out that the machine is working.
    1. sifgame
      sifgame 12 December 2020 17: 27
      +4
      This is the second salvo of four rockets. Those who do not want to see the obvious.
    2. timokhin-aa
      timokhin-aa 12 December 2020 20: 00
      +1
      No, the point is that the berthing and transshipment complex for Bulava was built only this year. Before that, it was impossible to shoot, the boats would have to go north to reload
  • Thrifty
    Thrifty 12 December 2020 17: 24
    0
    Yeah, now polyakhia and uk-roina will fit in without soap, which will "prove" (to their treating psychiatrists, probably) that this is all fake, painted at the "Kremlinfilm" studio, under the guidance of you you know who !!! lol Or, he will declare that the United States sold the missiles to us for launch, because we have a cat wept for our missiles crying wassat
  • tlauicol
    tlauicol 12 December 2020 17: 32
    +5
    Nice fireworks turned out good
  • evgen1221
    evgen1221 12 December 2020 17: 33
    +2
    Something a lot of bullets at once and all in one week. And we of course believe in the obsolete stolen equipment official.
    1. Alex777
      Alex777 12 December 2020 19: 07
      0
      Here I came across an interesting article. Ex-castle intelligence SV.
      This is not the President's plane to control nuclear forces.
      A ragged plane belongs to front-line control.
      Therefore, there are 4. By the number of future fronts. Have not flown for 10 years.
      Secret codes there, which were not close on the plane.
      In contrast to the discussed example with MIG-25 and Japan.
      1. Vladimir247
        Vladimir247 12 December 2020 22: 37
        0
        777
        -------
        Perhaps, and even more likely, it is. And what is there to be surprised, the war. And information is part of the war.
        But still ... there is no smoke without fire. Even if it was old, it was guarded. At least sloppiness. And we are at gunpoint.
      2. evgen1221
        evgen1221 12 December 2020 22: 40
        -4
        And disruption of communications and giving false signals to the troops also bodes little good. Where is the guarantee that, allegedly on behalf of the one who cannot be named, a signal will not arrive at the Pacific Fleet to bring down the Japanese, for example? How will they know that the leader of the organized crime group is in the Kremlin and not on an airplane or somewhere else? In any case, the costs will not be weak for replacing the filling of the remaining three machines.
  • askort154
    askort154 12 December 2020 17: 40
    -2
    .... the message, the Russian "Borey", being in the waters of the Sea of ​​Okhotsk made a salvo of four missiles "Bulava"

    From the Barents and Okhotsk Seas, great! But it's time, in honor of the New Year, to carry out the same launches from the Black and Mediterranean seas!
    It will be a good gift for EVERYONE! good
    1. impostor
      impostor 12 December 2020 17: 45
      +2
      Areas of practice shooting are probably regulated by international agreements, how will such launches be perceived by enemy missile warning systems?
      1. Alex777
        Alex777 13 December 2020 11: 22
        0
        IMHO, Russia and the States have an early warning system. Well, we are doing something with China.
  • La Peruse
    La Peruse 12 December 2020 17: 50
    -17%
    Comrades and gentlemen who went to the RKPSN !!! Explain to the delitants that a salvo of all missiles is constructively impossible !!! Physics was not taught to hike ... It's sad ..
    PS I appeal to the KAA Boa!
    1. Thrifty
      Thrifty 12 December 2020 18: 01
      +5
      La Peruse - a salvo with all missiles, even a pair of missiles at the same time is impossible not only structurally, but also physically!
      1. La Peruse
        La Peruse 12 December 2020 18: 12
        -23%
        ... You tell this division of the PGRK ... Or UKRSHK. Here they can. RSD-10 could ... I am just enraged by not competent headlines
        1. andr327
          andr327 13 December 2020 10: 15
          +3
          RSD-10 in one gulp could not. only sequentially with an interval of 10-15 seconds. I don’t understand where you got such extensive knowledge. the truth is, I can guess: somewhere in the 90s I was looking through the American book about nuclear weapons and it said that the Pioneer could launch a salvo.
          But any more or less knowledgeable rocket scientist knows that neither OTRK missiles, nor OS, nor ground complexes will take off at the same time, but in Dorkuments all massive launches are called a salvo.
    2. A good one
      A good one 12 December 2020 18: 08
      +6
      A salvo does not imply the launch of all missiles, for your concept, not one at least. yes Shoot more often with a doublet, if you figure out what and how, how wonderful and safe it is for you and that Shaitan device (called a gun). yes
      1. La Peruse
        La Peruse 12 December 2020 18: 20
        -27%
        Ridiculous ... I repeat !!! The head of the article infuriates !!! Which allows urya to write with boiling water from happiness to all sorts of not smart people. If you haven't read carefully ... Then Rougeau. Doublet with Jacans)))
    3. Paranoid50
      Paranoid50 12 December 2020 18: 28
      +10
      Quote: La Peruse
      Explain delitants

      Only after they learn to correctly write the definition of themselves. yes
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        1. Boa kaa
          Boa kaa 12 December 2020 22: 07
          0
          Quote: La Peruse
          How can you stupid me for ... Lee

          Namesake, calm down ... On the site = different people, + trolls, are sincerely deluded, and there are stoned ones from 404 ... So, forgive them.
          And for keeping the guys - a deep bow!
          Yours faithfully, hi
    4. Boa kaa
      Boa kaa 12 December 2020 23: 54
      +5
      Quote: La Peruse
      a salvo of all missiles is structurally impossible !!! Physics was not taught to hike ... It's sad ..

      Alexander, not only are you a namesake, but also a fellow countryman: La Perouse, however! Therefore, I repeat.
      On the issue of the combat use of the missile system on SSBN / SSBN.
      1. Shooting "salvo" on land and in the navy is not the same thing. In MFA - this is simultaneously from H-barrels, or from the RZSO package with a minimum interval, but at the same time! In the Navy - a set of salvo from H-products and launch with a minimum interval. The interval we have is 6 -7 (7-10) seconds (at different complexes), which is determined by the capabilities of the replacement tanks. During the launch of an SLBM, it is very important to maintain the firing "corridor" - not to fall below the starting h and not to jump out to the surface. A good boatswain is half the battle. At the same time, our launch depth is from 0 to 50m, while the Ams have a depth of 40! and other parameters are also better ...
      2. Usually they shoot in series of 4 items. Ams have such main shooting, then a 30-minute break, the complex works like that. How it works for us - showed Begemot-2. The Ames watched from the control ship and became very sad at the end of the shooting. Due to the fact that the shooting algorithm of the ams with "smoke breaks", they decided to carry not 24 but 16 silos in Colombia, the British generally talk about 12. We were drawn to 20 items on board, but then common sense, apparently, prevailed and the 955A remained with 16 items.
      3.
      Quote: Old26
      With an interval of a few seconds - it is possible, though without guarantees that you will get somewhere
      Vladimir, guarantees are laid in the head of the SLBM: astrocorrection, correction by spacecraft (GLONASS), and the data of K, V boats from NavK are continuously transmitted to ASBU Okrug-55 and further on the bus ... Ama speaks at Trident II D-5 KVO 90 120m ... And we have 250 ... But no one says that the R-30 / 3K30 carries 10BB and 20LC (the Ams have only 8LC, lungs), while the funnel from the nuclear bomb of one BB = 400m in diameter and 15 -20m depth - with a low air explosion! More than enough for me ...
      Therefore, not everything is bad with us, but it will surely get better, over time, of course.
      1. Andrey NM
        Andrey NM 13 December 2020 09: 51
        +1
        Alexander, good afternoon. And where was the control ship when the second Behemoth was fired? There were definitely no "partners" on the escort ship. I can even remember many by surname. There, when the latter went out, the people shed tears of joy.
        Shooting interval on "Borea" - you can simply turn on the stopwatch and detect the interval between the flashes of engine start. I do not think that there this interval is additionally set before the pre-start one.
        After Behemoth 2, the Americans sharply stepped up to destroy production, they began to slip us installations for the disposal of rocket fuel. Then these installations were used for distillation of oil, they received a poor diesel fuel, the technologies there are similar.
  • From Tomsk
    From Tomsk 12 December 2020 18: 01
    -27%
    Where running food prices look powerful !!))
    1. seregin-s1
      seregin-s1 12 December 2020 18: 11
      +2
      Where is it powerful?
    2. Mikhail m
      Mikhail m 12 December 2020 18: 28
      -3
      Suspicious coincidence.
  • Gunner
    Gunner 12 December 2020 18: 17
    +6
    Now the Ukrainian "specialists" will write that the missiles did not hit the target.
  • Laksamana besar
    Laksamana besar 12 December 2020 18: 21
    +9
    Greetings to London from Kamchatka. smile
    1. timokhin-aa
      timokhin-aa 12 December 2020 20: 01
      +1
      Seattle, not London.
      1. Vladimir247
        Vladimir247 12 December 2020 22: 43
        +2
        ahh
        -------

        Sorry for Boeing .... laughing he is there and so on his breath ...
  • Old26
    Old26 12 December 2020 18: 44
    +8
    Quote: Lipchanin
    In 1966, Brezhnev invited French President de Gaulle to watch the launch of an ICBM. A salvo launch of the 10th mine baying was shown. After the report that all targets were hit, such a dialogue took place. Not literally, but very close to the meaning.
    D. And are these missiles aimed at France?
    B AND France.
    And to Paris?
    B. And to Paris.
    D. But how is it possible? After all, Paris is the center of world culture. There is the Louvre and much more.
    B. And there is also the NATO headquarters.
    A week later, the headquarters moved to Brussels, and a month later France withdrew from NATO.

    You, Sergei, have repeated a well-known tale. I myself first heard it in about this version
    In reality, four missiles were launched. Launch from "Gagarinsky launch", launch of "Vostok-M" with the satellite "Meteor" (Cosmos-122) from 31 sites and 2 launches of R-16U from 60th site with an interval of about 10-20 minutes

    France withdrew from the NATO military organization on February 21, 1966. De Gaulle was at Baikonur on June 25, 1966. The only thing that was certain was that the move of NATO headquarters was after his visit to the USSR. But it was already predetermined

    Quote: Senka Naughty
    Few people still realized that ICBMs were flying not from right to left, but from left to right ..

    That is, last year, during the Thunder-2019 exercises, Ryazan did not fire from the Sea of ​​Okhotsk at Chizha ???? Wonderful are your deeds, O Lord! We flew before. There were simply no Bulava launches from the Sea of ​​Okhotsk to Chizha ...

    Quote: Insurgent
    Simulators do not diminish the value of the experience of such a volley in any way. After all, the moment of launch is the most difficult stage. Both for the crew, and for equipment, materiel.
    I also do not know how many missiles there were that reached the range (target) in the Begemot, and how many imitators, but the fact is that 8 launches are only part of the planned tests that failed due to technical reasons that led to the creation of an emergency on the nuclear submarine.
    8 missiles are of course already a lot, but more were planned. But it didn't work out ...

    Reduce. For the tests were not clear for what. It would be understandable to shoot with full ammunition. This would make it possible to assess the accuracy of the next SLBMs launched at intervals of several seconds. In fact, only 2 SLBMs fired at the range. the other 14 came out from under the water, but after half a minute they stopped their flight
    And the operation itself showed that the boat would not die with such a launch. But whether the missile will fulfill the task - this operation did not solve this problem.
    Of course, this does not belittle the feat of the crew ...

    Quote: askort154
    .... the message, the Russian "Borey", being in the waters of the Sea of ​​Okhotsk made a salvo of four missiles "Bulava"

    From the Barents and Okhotsk Seas, great! But it's time, in honor of the New Year, to carry out the same launches from the Black and Mediterranean seas!
    It will be a good gift for EVERYONE! good

    Language launches ??? Or, in order to personally make a gift to you, you need to drive a missile carrier to Mediterranean. And from Black - generally delirium beyond reason

    Quote: La Peruse
    Comrades and gentlemen who went to the RKPSN !!! Explain to the delitants that a salvo of all missiles is constructively impossible !!! Physics was not taught to hike ... It's sad ..
    PS I appeal to the KAA Boa!

    One-time - yes, it is impossible. With an interval of several seconds - it is possible, though without guarantees that you will get somewhere
    1. garri-lin
      garri-lin 12 December 2020 19: 08
      +4
      What's the problem with hitting a full salvo? The first, ascending section of the trajectory is unimportant in this. In fact, it is logical to program a small lapel of a couple of degrees for each rocket and spread them apart. After entering the high-altitude trajectory, correction is still carried out. Which compensates for the effect of the contrail of the previous missile. Well, the time between missile exits from the mines can not be made very small. Ten seconds, not 3-4.
    2. Podvodnik
      Podvodnik 13 December 2020 11: 05
      +5
      Reduce. For the tests were not clear for what


      The whole point of salvo firing of SSBNs is precisely to confirm the ability of the crew and the submarine itself to actually do what it was all about. And whether the rocket will reach or not is another question. Here the technical and practical possibility of firing all ammunition is tested. For if this is impossible for some reason, then in which case the task will not be completed. The capabilities of people and technology must be known and tested.
  • Kent0001
    Kent0001 12 December 2020 18: 48
    +1
    And where is the whiner kaptsov? Maybe it was fired from a ragatka, and not an ICBM launched?
  • Tagan
    Tagan 12 December 2020 20: 01
    +3
    Quote: La Peruse
    We begin to disassemble ... There was NO volley !!! There were sequential launches ... One left as usual ... Nice of course ... But the fate of 2 of the three who did not work properly is clear. Stupidly collapsed

    Disassemble better your miracle of human thought mortar Hammer, and then talk about higher matters.
  • timokhin-aa
    timokhin-aa 12 December 2020 20: 16
    +5
    An interesting point - four missiles are clearly an extraordinary event. One or two would be enough for any conceivable learning task.

    It seems that the Ministry of Defense has penetrated a mass of publications in the media and social networks about what the problem is and why they do not shoot Bulava from the Pacific Fleet, because boats with this missile have been there since the beginning of 2014, and now the end of 2020.

    Here, they are being rehabilitated.

    Another thing would be to crush them with torpedoes, force them to fire under the ice, otherwise we will go unarmed ...
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 12 December 2020 20: 57
      0
      USETs shoot, but new torpedoes will not hurt, they are expensive.
      1. Podvodnik
        Podvodnik 13 December 2020 11: 08
        +1
        but new torpedoes will not hurt, they are expensive


        In conventional exercises, combat torpedoes are not fired. Practical only. They are reusable. After shooting, they are caught by a torpedo.
    2. Cool but not Igor
      Cool but not Igor 12 December 2020 21: 20
      -7
      Still, the air defense in the fleet would have done normal, otherwise today the devastating article, they say, could not shoot down the ancient termite either with missiles or a cannon, a disgrace if so
    3. Bashkirkhan
      Bashkirkhan 12 December 2020 21: 32
      +2
      Quote: timokhin-aa

      It seems that the Ministry of Defense has penetrated a mass of publications in the media and social networks about what the problem is and why they do not shoot Bulava from the Pacific Fleet, because boats with this missile have been there since the beginning of 2014, and now the end of 2020.

      Because it is necessary to urgently return to the service of the author of entikh publications, respected Maxim Alexandrovich, with the assignment of an extraordinary military rank admiral of the fleet and the broadest rights. Otherwise, we will all have a kirdyk ...
  • Bare
    Bare 12 December 2020 20: 17
    +7
    Fascinating, standing ovation, glory to Russian weapons !!!
    As long as there are guys like that, as long as the nice guys have such weapons, and as long as there are look-aheads in leadership, there will be peace on planet Earth !!!
    soldier soldier soldier soldier soldier soldier soldier hi
  • Petrol cutter
    Petrol cutter 12 December 2020 20: 28
    +8
    "According to the report, the Russian Borei, while in the Sea of ​​Okhotsk, fired four Bulava missiles from a submerged position, hitting targets at the Chizha training ground in the Arkhangelsk region.
    Well done boys. What else can you say? It is not for nothing that they eat bread. hi
  • Motorhead
    Motorhead 12 December 2020 20: 40
    +2
    Let it fly ...
  • Old26
    Old26 12 December 2020 20: 41
    +4
    Quote: garri-lin
    What's the problem with hitting a full salvo? The first, ascending section of the trajectory is unimportant in this. In fact, it is logical to program a small lapel of a couple of degrees for each rocket and spread them apart. After entering the high-altitude trajectory, correction is still carried out. Which compensates for the effect of the contrail of the previous missile. Well, the time between missile exits from the mines can not be made very small. Ten seconds, not 3-4.

    Evil tongues claim that the whole problem is not after leaving the water, but at this particular time ...
  • Saxahorse
    Saxahorse 12 December 2020 21: 08
    +4
    Pleased with the good density of the volley. I remember before they grumbled a lot that they say we need a pause between starts of at least one and a half to two minutes. This is very critical if the boat is already under attack. The guys immediately made me happy, they fit in seconds between launches! good
  • Cool but not Igor
    Cool but not Igor 12 December 2020 21: 17
    -8
    They say that the combat units of the Bulava are not very accurate and this is a known fact. Is this so and what is the circular deviation?
  • LVMI1980
    LVMI1980 12 December 2020 21: 18
    +1
    Quote: bayard
    This is kind of like the first launch from east to west - there have been no launches from the Sea of ​​Okhotsk since the days of the Union.

    it seems last year they shot, but recently it is for sure
  • tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 12 December 2020 21: 59
    +2
    Godep: Explain who the salute is about? The ciphers broke their heads, four missiles, Trump Major General? Or Bweiden zombies take action. There were two missiles before!
  • Old26
    Old26 12 December 2020 22: 19
    +7
    Quote: La Peruse
    We begin to disassemble ... There was NO volley !!! There were sequential launches ... One left as usual ... Nice of course ... But the fate of 2 of the three who did not work properly is clear. Stupidly collapsed

    I wonder where you noticed it. the rockets were launched with an interval of about 7-10 seconds and something was not visible so that Nos. 2, 3 or 4 collapsed. By the time No. 4 started, the previous ones were in flight No. 2 - about half a minute, No. 3 - 15-20 seconds.

    Quote: Cool but not Igor
    They say that the combat units of the Bulava are not very accurate and this is a known fact. Is this so and what is the circular deviation?

    Known from whom? KVO is the same as for other missiles of a similar purpose. Nobody can say for sure. According to various sources, from 150 to 350 meters. Sufficient to solve problems

    Quote: La Peruse
    Is it from underwater? They let them in from the positional ... they're not suicides

    Actually, they let FROM UNDERWATER regulations FROM POSITIONAL district. And why are they suicidal? That the first time a four-rocket salvo was fired?

    Quote: lucul
    To fire a bullet from the Sea of ​​Okhotsk into the Arkhangelsk region, you need to be sure that the missile has sufficient accuracy. It is not from the White Sea to launch into the Sea of ​​Okhotsk, anyway, no one will be harmed there in case of erroneous aiming.

    And what, in the opposite direction, the trajectory will be much different ??? In both cases, the range is about 5500 km.

    Quote: La Peruse
    So I'm talking about the same ... It's just that the headlines are enraged .. Especially when I myself watched this action ... Normally, one left. Two fireworks after the launch ... Another one just left ... Perhaps normally. It's just that the Far East was always allowed to leave the waters. And here in full view ...

    I have not seen a single one that does not start normally. This can be seen especially well from afar. There is one, followed by another in a cocurrent exhaust stream with an interval of 7-10 seconds (both of the first mine numbers), then the third and fourth. At least at the start of the 4th, the regular flight of the first three is still observed
    1. Cool but not Igor
      Cool but not Igor 12 December 2020 23: 23
      -5
      Known from whom? KVO is the same as for other missiles of a similar purpose

      Known from the author of many publications on VO timokhin-aa AND OTHER USERS! from various military sites. A quote from the article by timokhin-aa "Nuclear illusion. It will not work to" glaze "the enemy"
      Navy:
      11 RPLSN, each carries 16 SLBMs with MIRVs. The number of charges according to Western data is 720. Disclaimer - SLBMs, due to specific initial starting conditions, are characterized by reduced accuracy compared to ICBMs and are of little use for a first strike
  • Crimean partisan 1974
    Crimean partisan 1974 12 December 2020 22: 31
    +2
    Well, from Okhotsk to the Archangel with a mace, therefore, they will soon beat Sineva along the Kura ..... that is wonderful ... Blue-Mace, Mace-Blue ..... triple vivat for guys. vivat. vivat ... and then hurray already zadolbali. very often sounds not from the attacks of field battles but from the chairs in front of the mons
  • seregatara1969
    seregatara1969 12 December 2020 23: 15
    0
    Is there such a word - salvo? Volley shooting - there is such a concept. The glass was drunk in one gulp. At the New Year's table, a salvo of champagne. Somehow not in Russian
  • Tests
    Tests 12 December 2020 23: 28
    +2
    Crimean partisan 1974 (Vladimir), dear, but the Federation Council is not moget "Bulava" on the "Kura"?
    "Yuri Dolgoruky" seems to be able to. Maybe "Prince Vladimir" can? It was not for nothing that in May they were in a hurry to expel him into the seas ... When I saw your "Bear", I realized that you can see everything from above and the distances for you so, ugh and grind it. But from the village of Chizha to the northernmost outskirts of Arkhangelsk (berths on the Economy) Crimea can be hidden. Let the missiles from the Pacific Fleet fly only to the Chyu, to the peg.
  • Lesorub
    Lesorub 12 December 2020 23: 43
    +3
    According to the report, the Russian Borey, while in the Sea of ​​Okhotsk, fired four Bulava missiles from a submerged position,

    At one time, test launches were carried out from Dmitry Donskoy, now normally from Boreyev.
    1. Andrey NM
      Andrey NM 14 December 2020 10: 45
      0
      Interestingly, the BDRM has a product weight of 40,2 tons, Bulava - 36,6 tons. The number of missiles is the same. As it is written everywhere, a liquid-propellant rocket needs more tanks, pressurizers and other gizmos that are "superfluous" for solid-propellant missiles. And then the question arises ... The BDRM has a displacement of 18700 tons, and the Borey has 24000 tons. And Ohio with 24 heavier (60 tonnes each) missiles also has 24000 tonnes. What is so hidden there for more than 5 thousand tons?
  • Chizhov Kirill
    Chizhov Kirill 13 December 2020 03: 06
    0
    acho in Chizh, not in Manhattan then? here just recently they wrote about the fact that we will not be able to glaze them, and so the question is, when a training launch is underway, the states know that it is a training one, so after all, you can use a warhead.
  • iouris
    iouris 13 December 2020 10: 37
    0
    Do nuclear warheads exist? And why is no one afraid of them?
  • Tests
    Tests 13 December 2020 11: 46
    0
    timokhin-aa (Alexander Timokhin), dear, and the maritime transport of weapons pr.20180TV "Akademik Kovalev" left for the Pacific Fleet for cartoons called "Poseidon" in 2016?
  • Old26
    Old26 13 December 2020 15: 12
    +2
    Quote: bayard
    Maxim wrote that the western training ground is not ready to receive warheads - in terms of technical equipment with control equipment. But he also wrote that without the western training ground, firing practice from the Sea of ​​Okhotsk is impossible, just as it is impossible to check the combat readiness of Kamchatka missile carriers.
    The current launches have shown that Russia now has two equipped training grounds, which means that the Pacific SSBNs will be able to make training launches to test their own combat readiness.
    Moreover, a salvo launch! The news is doubly good.

    Then how, in recent years, the same Ryazan from the Pacific Fleet shot at Chizha?

    Quote: Andrew NM
    Quote: Old26
    I don’t remember how many real rockets were in "Begemot", but "Begemot-2" - there were 2 missiles and 14 imitators

    In the first Behemoth, nothing started, only the cover of mine No. 6 of 70 meters flew after the explosion and pierced the Central City Hospital in the nose. And the number of items for the full range and for "jumping out" is the same.
    It is not at all clear what is new and advanced about the Bulava? If we compare the specific parameters of the 3M-65 product and the Bulava in terms of payload, they are approximately the same, with approximately equal range. The last 3M-65 missiles weighed 88 tons. If the Bulava payload is converted to a 3M-65 payload, we get a missile mass of 82 tons. According to these parameters, they are very close. But the D-19 was put into service in 1984, 30 years older than the Bulava.
    I am glad that they began to shoot normally.

    Thank you, Andrey for the information on the first "Behemoth". Especially in terms of the number of items in terms of "real" and "Imitator". The same Degtyar wrote about the second "Behemoth" at least, but the first one was somehow ignored. Maybe due to the fact that there were no launches ...
  • Dzafdet
    Dzafdet 13 December 2020 18: 37
    0
    We prepared for a long time, but we shot quickly. About 7 seconds between starts. If the equipment allows, then everything can be shot in 112 seconds ...
  • Dzafdet
    Dzafdet 13 December 2020 19: 03
    +1
    Quote: MinskFox
    Financial position, Solid fuel mace means cheaper and easier to maintain and manufacture, this is a fact. There was such a time, a decision was made not about what you want, but about what you can, did not go smoothly, but she flies. And, by the way, which naval ballistic missile implements a flat trajectory besides Bulava, and yes, it has a shortened acceleration section (which sea ballistic missiles have it also implemented?), Which also helps in the fight against missile defense.



    Cheaper? Solomonov himself said in an interview that the production of solid propellants is very expensive. One solid propellant is 3-5 times more expensive than a liquid one.
  • alexey alexeyev_2
    alexey alexeyev_2 14 December 2020 05: 46
    0
    Why for the first time? Iran was shot in one gulp.