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Israel: to be or not to be?

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I. American intelligence: Israel has 13 years left

On the rising wave of various rumors about who will win (or lose) in the coming war between Israel and Iran, other rumors have resumed: about the imminent and inevitable end of Israel.

The Middle East Department of the United States Intelligence Service conducted a special study, the data of which were made public. In this study it is saidthat the state of Israel will cease to exist as early as 2025.

Analyst Hussein Al-Berbury of the American newspaper Watan, who studied these studies, makes a conclusionthat the process of the exodus of the Israelites with historical homeland and return to their former habitat - is irreversible. He writes, citing a document, that “over half a million Fallash and other African Jews intend to return to the Black Continent in the next ten years. More than a million Russians and tens of thousands of Europeans are ready for re-emigration. ”

Among the reasons for the total re-emigration of Jews in the mentioned study are: the rise of the nationalist wave in the countries neighboring Israel; the rise of Islamism in Egypt; traction residents of Israel to their native places. Indicators of the fact that Jews are not well in Israel are the following factors for the authors of the document: insignificant population growth rates, “not comparable with the demographic explosion on Palestinian lands”; half a million Israelis live with American passports; few people are already attracted by the idea of ​​"the purity of the Jewish race, on which Israel was built," so many Jews "prefer to go to multi-religious countries with a mixed national composition of the population."

In support of his thoughts, Hussein al-Berberi quotes A. Toynbee, who wrote almost half a century ago: “Despite the victory, Israel will not last long. An anomalous, alien community ... A tiny state on foreign lands, rejecting it. As well as numerous peoples living around him. ”

However, the journalist says, "neither the Arab land, nor the Middle East did not reject the Israelis: they rejected themselves, prompting the Arab region and the world outside to unite together today or tomorrow to oust the Jewish state."

“And if it disappears from the face of the earth,” the analyst adds, “it’s not the Arab world that will be guilty of this, but the state of Israel itself.”

Ii. Israel will kill the "Arab Spring"

A year earlier, Comrade Al-Berbury, with a forecast of the near end of Israel, was made by the famous Jewish historian Benny Morris. Unlike al-Berbury, he believes that Israel will fall from the Islamic invasion - both external and internal. The historian, in contrast to attentive to details of American intelligence, did not name the exact date of the fall of the state.

B. Morris is not an ordinary alarmist with whom the multinational Internet is now densely populated. This man gathered all the current threats to the existence of Israel, and collected, summarized. And he did it in September 2011, when the top Israeli government was not going to go to war with Iran (which, in addition to the Arabic danger, must also mean Persian).

Israel, according to Morris, is attacked from everywhere: the Palestinian Authority is ready to proclaim its state; Arab-Muslim countries continue to threaten a Jewish country; in Israel, more than ever, strong internal mass protests.

"Over 50 years ago, Israeli leaders led by David Ben-Gurion believed and hoped that they would create a social democratic state with all the attributes of equality, - notes comrade morris. - But Israel is not the same. A deep internal existential crisis has begun. Its origins are partly in the changing nature of a state that has become more right, more rigid, much less liberal, much less egalitarian. Many moderate Israelis fear that the country is heading for a crash. Indeed, the ruling class, including Benjamin Netanyahu and his predecessors Ehud Olmert and Ehud Barak, live in luxury, and it seems that they have become detached from reality. ” At the same time, the historian points out, one-fifth of Israelis live below the poverty line, and the indicator of income differentiation in Israel is one of the worst among OECD members. In addition, Morris writes about the "brain drain." (As we see, it is characteristic not only for Russia).

Another problem, the historian continues, is the Israeli Arab minority. It is increasingly demonstrating adherence to Islam and is increasingly loudly demanding that Israel cease to be a Jewish state and grant more rights, and even autonomy to the Arabs.

Israeli democracy, according to B. Morris, is now in a deep crisis: it seems to be a democracy for the citizens of Israel, but, only it comes to 2,5 million Arabs in the half-occupied West Bank and 1,5 million Arabs in the Gaza Strip living in conditions of the semi-suburb, Israel immediately ceases to be a democracy.

And then there's the threat of the “Arab Spring”. According to the historian, this “spring” is not at all a herald of democratic change. Israelis are pessimistic about her. After all, Islamist signals emanating from Ankara and coming to the fore in Cairo, Morris writes, "contain the core of anti-Zionism, usually accompanied by anti-Semitic overtones."

According to the historian, the bureaucratic means of dealing with the economic problems of the country, which Netanyahu invents, will become drowned in the tide of Palestinian activity and anti-Zionism, which will arise in the wake of the proclamation of a Palestinian state, giving rise to echoes throughout the Arab-Muslim world.

Interestingly, Ehud Barak in the same year 2011 predicted a “political tsunami” for Israel. “And here it is,” Morris announces.

Iii. The road to two disasters: political and economic

Analysts and journalists singled out both political and economic among the internal causes of the speedy end of Israel.

Jews does not count The Israeli government is the personification of democracy, including in the geopolitical field: “The rules of the game between Israel and the rest of the world have changed. Today, the war is for awareness, and we are losing it. If Gunter Grass, the German winner of the Nobel Prize in literature, who published a poem at the beginning of April critical of Israel, wanted to visit Israel, would the government really keep him out of the country? According to Interior Minister Eli Yishai, yes. Yishai Grasse declared persona non grata. Is it forbidden for a person to express a negative opinion about us? Do we live under a dictatorship? Maybe it's time to start burning books? ”

Sustained rumors that Prime Minister Netanyahu, in collaboration with Ehud Barak, will dictate and implement the program of the military operation against Iran quite dictatorially, very much resemble the truth. Blaming Ahmadinejad, Netanyahu relies on the fictitious inevitability of atomic war from the ayatollahs, Israel’s preparation for the bombing of Iran in the fall, Israel’s sociological polls and other propaganda that is very similar to the one that allowed George W. Bush to launch the flywheel of the Iraq war.

In the Jewish press writethat Netanyahu is afraid of himself and therefore scares others, but it seems that a politician of such a rank will not easily be intimidated. No, he is not afraid: he teaches fellow citizens to think about a war with Iran. To loss, to blood, to the war of sirens, to explosions, to pain and death. Netanyahu, with his statements instantly propagated through the Israeli, American, European, Iranian and Arab press, is a powerful source of propaganda. And Netanyahu plus Ehud Barak (Israel’s defense minister who agrees with Netanyahu’s policies, unlike many other military and nonmilitary high-ranking officials) are two powerful sources of propaganda.

However, judging by the Jewish press, Israel was poorly prepared for the big war.

From the post of Minister of Defense of the rear shipped to the post of ambassador to China Matan Vilnai. He was replaced by Abraham Dichter, the former head of the Israeli security service, Shin Bet. Vilna was probably transferred because of his disapproval of Netanyahu’s and Barak’s policies. Indeed, in an interview with Reuters, he refused to answer the question about the need to strike at Iranian nuclear facilities. “I don’t need to drag me into these disputes,” сказал nevertheless, he noted that Israel must take into account the opinion of the United States - “the best friend of our country”.

Another reason for the resignation of a major official can be considered lack of war preparedness for the war: “The last alarming news from the "rear" fronts, allow us to conclude that the rear of the war is not ready. " 40% of the population has no gas masks. In shelters - non-compliance with standards, lack of necessary funds. "Now citizens are a little more active than in previous months", - says Eitan Arkobi, project manager for the distribution of protective kits through the Israel Post Office. According to him, 4,24 has already distributed a million chemical protection kits, there are still about 0,5 million, which will be distributed by March 2013. "After that, you will have to wait until the Defense Ministry gives another three million budget." That is, if Israel is subjected to rocket fire right now, 40% of the population will not have gas masks. Further, a third of Israelis do not have an apartment in a protected space or public shelter to shelter from a rocket attack. Many shelters available to citizens do not meet the standards of protection. According to a survey conducted for the publication Maariv, it turned out that 56% of Israelis believe that the rear is not ready for a possible war.

But Ahmadinejad is ready for it, who will have nothing to lose in case of an Israeli attack. Speaking at Ramadan, President of Iran сказал: "Who loves freedom and justice, should strive for the destruction of the Zionist regime in order to pave the way for justice and freedom."

To the opponents of the military operation against Iran in Israel today are ranked: Chief of General Staff Benny Gantz, Air Force Commander Amir Eshel, Director of Foreign Intelligence Mossad Tamir Pardo, Head of Military Intelligence AMAN Aviv Kochavi and even President Shimon Peres.

Meir Dagan, in the past the head of the Mossad, also belongs to the “internal opposition” in the country. He warns: a military scenario applied to Iran can be very costly for Israel, resulting in a full-scale regional war, the results of which are unpredictable. Starting Iran’s “military whipping” right call "The silliest thought among all the others in this context."

Former head of the Israeli General Security Service Shabak Yuval Diskin also speaks out against the military operation. He openly declared his distrust of Benjamin Netanyahu and Ehud Barak.

Nevertheless, Netanyahu and Barak (who, before the post of minister of war, managed to change the chairs of the Minister of Agriculture, Minister of Education, Minister of Tourism, Minister of Foreign Affairs, Minister of Internal Affairs and Prime Minister - such a multi-year manager) bend their line, losing the remnants of popularity population.

In addition to the awkward politics in the Jewish state, all is not well with the economy, which gives observers and analysts an additional reason to talk about the “end”.

Prices of basic foodstuffs, according to the Israeli Ministry of Agriculture, in the near future will grow significantly. Until the end of 2012, due to the rise in price of pet food (due to drought in the USA), the prices for milk, eggs, fowl will rise by 6-17%. This will immediately affect the feed industry in Israel: prices for raw materials for its enterprises may jump on 40, or even 50%. The consequence will be an instant increase in the price of milk on 10-13%, on poultry meat - on 10-14%, on eggs - on 14-17%.

In the autumn gasoline prices will rise - crossed the mark in 8 shekels per liter. Among the reasons for the increase in prices is called among others, and an increase in 1 ppt. VAT in Israel (from September 2012).

Rise in autumn also vegetables (tomatoes, cucumbers, zucchini). Raised by the government the price of bread. Beer, cigarettes rose in July.

Very high in israel share of the shadow economy:

“By its very nature, the shadow economy cannot boast of official data. However, data are published based on ratings. According to a study published by the World Bank in 2010, the size of the shadow economy in Israel is 23% of GDP, 190 billion shekels. Much more than in countries such as Germany (17%), United Kingdom (13%), Japan (12%) and the United States (9%). Israel is in a bad position compared to Western countries: it is on the 23 site from the OECD 31 countries. European countries currently experiencing an economic crisis, like Greece and Italy, are ranked behind Israel on this list.

Moreover, the share of the shadow economy in GDP is growing in Israel faster than in other OECD countries. It grew 8,5% per decade from 1997 to 2007 a year, compared with an average increase of 6% in other countries. Part of the shadow economy, and not the most significant one, is connected with criminal activities in areas such as drugs, prostitution and gambling, but most of them are due to the behavior of law-abiding citizens. ”

The Israeli authorities are struggling with unkind means of raising tax rates since September — income tax and VAT — and stricter measures to combat defaulters. The tax authority announced the recruitment of 700 new employees, including students, who will have to spend evenings in the tax office. These evening workers are called upon to strengthen control over “black capital” and increase tax collection.

Of course, such measures of popularity are not added to the Netanyahu government.

Iv. "Scapegoats"?

Dina Lisnyanskaya, an Israeli, an expert in Arabic language and a specialist in Islamic extremism, believes that US President Barack Obama made a scapegoat from Israel.

American funds according to Lisnyanskayago today to the Islamists. Doesn't Obama know who the Muslim Brotherhood are? .. Lisnyanskaya reminds us that during the visit of the American President to Cairo, during his speech the representatives of the Brothers were demonstratively planted in the first row. In this way, the President of the United States encouraged the opposition, which spoke against Mubarak a couple of years ago. Obama’s policy is to reconcile America and Islam after the 2001 events of the year and Bush’s junior actions. On the other hand, according to Lisnyanskaya, Obama can stop the war with radical Islam so much that he will forget about other US interests.

In this case, Israel will be the "beat card" for the White House. “We are scapegoats for Barack Obama,” says Dina Lisnyanskaya. - It has long been understood politically. The problem is that for reconciliation with Islam, Barack Obama appeals to radical Islamists. And they were initially opposed to "American imperialism." For America in the Middle East, this is not necessarily the way to the abyss. But such a course of the US president is not particularly far-sighted. Yes, America’s reconciliation with Islam is possible, but it will change the whole balance in the Middle East. In fact, this has already changed the balance: the so-called “Arab Spring” is the result of Obama’s policy in our region. What did he achieve? Dictators are falling, but they are being democratically replaced by the Islamists. ”

The idea of ​​Lisnyanskaya is easy to continue: the Islamists who came to power will come to Israel.

However, not everything is so bad for Israel: “the best friend” (in the words of Matan Vilnai) suddenly seemed to give the answer to Dina Lisnyanskaya. 14 August Barack Obama, according to the Israeli TV 10 channel, on behalf of America, promised to attack Iran in June 2013 of the year - unless obstinate Tehran did not stop its nuclear program by that time.

Observed Oleg Chuvakin
- especially for topwar.ru
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  1. volcano
    volcano 18 August 2012 08: 44
    -1
    Thanks Oleg.
    RED MATERIAL.
    When this happens I will sob ...... FROM HAPPINESS
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 18 August 2012 09: 04
      +6
      Quote: volkan
      When this happens I will sob ...... FROM HAPPINESS

      Greetings to Andrey, I'm afraid you won’t have to sob. Israel will not cease to exist, it is not profitable. In Israel, the region is in full swing, and in its absence there is relative silence. Amers have other plans, and they will not lose to the warrior, they will suffer and seriously, yes, but they will not lose.
      1. esaul
        esaul 18 August 2012 09: 19
        +1
        Sasha, an interesting calculation from the conclusions of the American intelligence caught my eye, read - not everything is categorically

        http://warfiles.ru/show-11578-sluzhba-razvedki-ssha-ishod-izrailtyan-k-2025-godu
        -gosudarstvo-padet-watan-ssha.html
        1. lotus04
          lotus04 18 August 2012 09: 37
          +1
          Quote: esaul
          http://warfiles.ru/show-11578-sluzhba-razvedki-ssha-ishod-izrailtyan-k-2025-godu

          -gosudarstvo-padet-watan-ssha.html


          I read it. Well, of course. Israel will not be defeated. He just took it and, like "Adolf in the Bunker," shot himself.
          1. Troyekurov
            Troyekurov 18 August 2012 13: 37
            +1
            How scary to live in Israel, a gas mask is a thing of prime necessity! I don’t have it either, but somehow I was hit by a drum, and I didn’t see them at the market to trade! ..
        2. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 18 August 2012 10: 21
          +1
          Quote: esaul
          Read - not so categorically

          Valera, I read and will make my prediction. America will plunge into complete chaos since the month of October. The financial crisis and military operations with Iran will turn this country into ruins. Millions of Jews will rush from a burning continent to other countries, including to help Israel, young people are unambiguous.
          1. v53993
            v53993 18 August 2012 21: 49
            0
            Confusing the sequence ..
            First, Jews will rush to America (in Russia they are not waiting for them, having received the vaccine from the revolutions in the last century) and will try to rebuild it in their own way.
            Those. instead of changing, the Jews will try to disperse, and this will be their last outcome.
            1. v53993
              v53993 19 August 2012 15: 58
              0
              The severely Bryansk forest was noisy ...
              And the commander screams at us next
              Thunder invaders guys
          2. Lohamey Herut
            Lohamey Herut 12 May 2015 16: 15
            0
            Well, where is the realization of your apocalyptic forecasts for October?
      2. ughhh
        ughhh 18 August 2012 09: 27
        +1
        After the current process of redivision of the world, which has already begun, Israel will not be. The current puppeteers quite obviously merge it. The only reason they can still be used is to start full-scale hostilities. Then a fast and hot Siberian fur animal will come to Israel. America is also drained, by the way ...
        1. Kshatriy
          Kshatriy 18 August 2012 13: 01
          0
          Quote: ughhh
          After the current process of redivision of the world, which has already begun, Israel will not be. The current puppeteers quite obviously merge it. The only reason they can still be used is to start full-scale hostilities. Then a fast and hot Siberian fur animal will come to Israel. America is also drained, by the way ...

          YES, YES, yes, yes .... that is exactly ...... I completely agree with you !!! ... There is a very small discrepancy with your point of view ...--- very tiny ....
          Quote: ughhh
          the current process of redivision of the world,

          ..... And no redistribution of the world is expected .... For there is only a change in the political formation within the framework of the post-industrial development of terrestrial civilization with the aim of further enslavement ........ (finish the sentence yourself, as you think. ....) !!!
          1. Troyekurov
            Troyekurov 18 August 2012 13: 38
            -1
            Quote: Kshatriya
            ..For only a change of political formation is coming

            And where will the central office be located? ..
      3. volcano
        volcano 18 August 2012 09: 28
        -4
        Hello, Alexander.
        Let me even dream crying
      4. bye
        bye 18 August 2012 09: 28
        +12
        I'm leaving, but not in English hi I spent a lot of time on the site, I received great pleasure from communicating with friends and girlfriend, as well as with opponents. The site is good, gives a lot of interesting information, but by the way I turn to the main thing:
        Good luck guys, communicate, do not swear, everyone wants everything from Alexei67, dreamer and spender
        FAREWELL!!!! drinks
        Threat Admins do not rub post, he is the last hi
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 18 August 2012 10: 27
          +2
          Quote: bye
          FAREWELL!!!!

          Goodbye and I think soon wink
          1. Apollo
            Apollo 18 August 2012 13: 12
            +3
            I express to you Alexei my solidarity and express my bewilderment and misunderstanding with the attitude of the administration of the site Military Review to you.

            I’ll even say the more you are one of those on whom the site rests. I am very sorry Alex without you the site will lose its former attractiveness. Sorry and sorry again.
            Request to the site administration to clarify the situation with Alexei.
            1. Karabekir
              Karabekir 18 August 2012 13: 39
              +1
              Why clarify)))) ???
              Debauched)))))))))))) but beautiful, although I do not approve)))))))
          2. Karabekir
            Karabekir 18 August 2012 13: 38
            +1
            Alexander, where do you have photos of my childhood on your avatar?)))
            1. Alexander Romanov
              Alexander Romanov 18 August 2012 13: 46
              +1
              Quote: Karabekir
              where did you get my childhood photos from the avatar

              I have on my avatar cheburashka and on all my comments too, what you see, I have no idea request
              1. Karabekir
                Karabekir 18 August 2012 13: 54
                +1
                Quote: Alexander Romanov
                I have on my avatar cheburashka and on all my comments too, what you see, I have no idea

                A person of Caucasian nationality))))))))))
        2. lotus04
          lotus04 18 August 2012 10: 39
          +4
          Quote: bye
          FAREWELL!!!! drinks


          It is a pity. recourse
        3. VAF
          VAF 18 August 2012 11: 07
          +5
          Quote: bye
          I'm leaving, but not in English



          damn, barely found +! Lyosha, and on a fig you do it?
          You give everyone the opportunity to gloat ..... ???

          on the contrary, from happiness they rub their hands!

          Can you change your mind? Although with these "innovations" something nizya. Is nizya .... correctly Kostya said ..... almost classmates!

          Think Lesha! everything else in PM!
          1. Roman Skomorokhov
            Roman Skomorokhov 18 August 2012 23: 15
            +3
            Are there any neighbors? Give him the head of a sloucher!

            Quote: bye
            from Alexei67, dreamer and spender


            Three advents were ... Give the fourth!

            But seriously, without pathos and all this, it’s not worth it ... well, one hell, you won’t sit for a long time. So come on back. especially since the people are asking. obey the majority and that’s it.
            1. Odessa
              Odessa 18 August 2012 23: 22
              +2
              Banshee,
              Are there any neighbors? Give him the head of a sloucher!

              Already contacted the neighbors. The neighbors lay with bent heads, they could not convince him!
              But maybe he will listen to you? request
              1. Roman Skomorokhov
                Roman Skomorokhov 19 August 2012 16: 48
                +1
                I’m not against my substitution, but I do not know, firstly, where he lives, and secondly, it is unlikely that he will listen. We somehow never crossed. I rather respect in absentia.
            2. v53993
              v53993 19 August 2012 16: 05
              -1
              Slavs to the East, Jews to the West.
              The rest of the rocket in the hole, so that they could think faster.
        4. Odessa
          Odessa 18 August 2012 13: 11
          +1
          while,
          Threat Admins do not rub post, he is the last

          Fasting, last in the last 10 minutes ?!
          No one doesn’t go anywhere, everyone remains in place!
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 18 August 2012 13: 20
            +1
            Hi Esther, the best go, but remain ................ crying
            1. SlavaP
              SlavaP 18 August 2012 17: 53
              +1
              Well, you did it, they turned down ... I, for one, remain, although I do not consider myself to be this, what do you mean ...
            2. Odessa
              Odessa 18 August 2012 19: 38
              0
              Alexander Romanov,
              Hi Esther, the best go, but stay

              Stop crying, the team is free, there wasn’t! stop
          2. Karabekir
            Karabekir 18 August 2012 13: 40
            +1
            I agree with you Esther!
            Until we defeat international imperialism in the person of the United States, we can’t go anywhere)))
            Not all plans have been implemented)))))))
        5. Karabekir
          Karabekir 18 August 2012 13: 37
          +2
          Alexey!
          In vain you are so!
          Last time I wrote to you that this is wrong!
          Just stop swearing with him, do not pay attention!
          Although you and I argued, and a clone of a worthy person, you called me a couple of months ago, but I respect you!
          Himself quick-tempered))))
          So throw goodbyes and come back to us))))
        6. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 18 August 2012 14: 31
          +1
          Lech, in short, you didn’t want to make a good purchase for a long time. And buy this site from Smirnov along with giblets wassat
      5. lotus04
        lotus04 18 August 2012 09: 33
        +2
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Israel will not cease to exist


        When someone finds Israel in a burden, this someone will knock him head-on with the Arabs and leave him without a "tit". This is where his (Israel's) story ends.
        1. Kshatriy
          Kshatriy 18 August 2012 13: 13
          -1
          Quote: lotus04
          On this his (Israel) story will end.

          ... Dear ..., ISTORAI Israel is already - over .... Russia is almost ready to accept almost one and a half million Jews ... definitely and without hesitation ...... all infrastructures will be ready by mid-autumn .... all consultations of the government of the Russian Federation with Kagal --- successfully held .... everything is made Decision ..... relax and have fun .... we live in interesting times dear gentlemen !!!!!!!!
          1. jak
            jak 18 August 2012 13: 29
            +1
            An interesting story at an interesting time.
            Please in more detail.
          2. DimYang
            DimYang 19 August 2012 19: 50
            -1
            Quote: Kshatriya
            Dear ..., ISTORAI Israel has already ended - Russia is almost ready to receive almost one and a half million Jews ... definitely and without hesitation ...... all infrastructures will be ready by mid-autumn .... all consultations Government of the RF with Kagal --- successfully carried out .... everything is made Decision ..... relax and have fun .... we live in interesting times dear Lord !!!!!!!!


            I wish I could give them all jigsaws. Yes, and fluff the forest felled along future highways.
    2. pribolt
      pribolt 18 August 2012 09: 17
      -1
      Quote: volkan
      When this happens I will sob ...... FROM HAPPINESS


      I will also note drinks
      1. Dimon
        Dimon 18 August 2012 21: 24
        0
        yeah, in the next world with his friendship.
    3. Ruslan
      Ruslan 18 August 2012 10: 05
      +9
      See how the Jews in their media protect and promote the Pusey Wright freak. Jews always support those who encroach on Orthodox shrines. It is necessary to give girls the opportunity to shit from the Pusi near the crying wall and then speak in their defense.
      http://news.rtvi.ru/long/WORLD
      1. Pashhenko Nikolay
        Pashhenko Nikolay 18 August 2012 10: 21
        0
        And you my friend, didn’t forget by chance that the roots of your Orthodoxy come from Israel? Your mother and father Jesus were Jews, and therefore he himself is a Jew of pure blood?
        1. lotus04
          lotus04 18 August 2012 10: 41
          +4
          Quote: Pashhenko Nikolay
          Your mother and father Jesus were Jews, and therefore he himself is a Jew of pure blood?


          Remember!!! GOD DOES NOT HAVE NATIONALITY !!!
          1. Pashhenko Nikolay
            Pashhenko Nikolay 18 August 2012 10: 49
            -16
            I don’t have any gods at all and it makes me sick to listen to your moaning about offended Orthodoxy. Or we have already taken away all rights from atheists.
            1. volcano
              volcano 18 August 2012 11: 04
              +6
              Nicholas
              That you are in vain. Believe it or not, this is your own business.
              But the existence of God (or not) does not depend on your faith (unbelief).
              And moaning is the wrong word.
              In any case, respect for the feelings of other people is necessary.
              This is an elementary upbringing and politeness.
              Well, if you feel sick that people believe in something, then maybe it’s not in people, but in you?
              Do you yourself believe in anything?
              1. Pashhenko Nikolay
                Pashhenko Nikolay 18 August 2012 11: 11
                +1
                No, I don’t believe in it. And is your faith so necessary to be made publicly available here and now? Wouldn’t it be better to discuss it in the church, in the family, or among like-minded people? And what about respect for me as an atheist? Why should I listen around about your problems religions?
                1. Kshatriy
                  Kshatriy 18 August 2012 14: 10
                  +2
                  Quote: Pashhenko Nikolay
                  No, I don’t believe. And your faith is so necessary to be put on public display here.

                  I don’t believe it either ... I LEAD the God of the Kind ..., and you can turn your back and deny your Kind .... Especially since you started poking and imposing absolutely wild (you made up concepts about Jews and Jews about Christ and a creed !!! And didn’t you think that you have offended many believers ???) the conclusions of an underdeveloped being ???
                2. Montefiore
                  Montefiore 18 August 2012 14: 21
                  +1
                  Pashhenko Nikolay,

                  These places are scarce by sober and cultured people, such concepts as dialogue, pluralism, tolerance, all of this is not known to most of the local inhabitants. So be prepared for bile, abuse and savagery in your address. hi
                  1. Kshatriy
                    Kshatriy 18 August 2012 15: 39
                    +1
                    Quote: Montefiore
                    These places are scarce by sober and cultured people, such concepts as dialogue, pluralism, tolerance, all of this is not known to most local residents

                    My dear, and how such a hurricane brought you to our trash heaps .... maybe you don't like it when you prove your inferiority with a very reasoned ..., so you get off with general phrases ??? I have no words! all according to the "protocols of the wise men of Zion" !!!!!!!
                  2. volcano
                    volcano 18 August 2012 16: 20
                    +2
                    Montefiore
                    If you disgust this site and these forum users, WHAT DO YOU DO HERE ?????
                    1. Pimply
                      Pimply 18 August 2012 16: 31
                      +2
                      I don’t know how Montefiore is, but I want there to be less nasty and more smart ones. Is it so prejudicial? No, I don’t need to be agreed with me. It’s important for me that people who write comments or read them here try to include their heads first and not their prejudices
                      1. viruskvartirus
                        viruskvartirus 20 August 2012 09: 26
                        +1
                        Gold words....
                3. volcano
                  volcano 18 August 2012 16: 19
                  0
                  So in my opinion I didn’t offend you .....
                4. Alexander Romanov
                  Alexander Romanov 18 August 2012 16: 28
                  +2
                  Quote: Pashhenko Nikolay
                  And your faith is so necessary to make public here and now?

                  But what has bad faith done to you and what is bad teaching? Do not kill, do not steal, is it bad?
                5. esaul
                  esaul 18 August 2012 19: 25
                  0
                  Quote: Pashhenko Nikolay
                  And your faith is so necessary to make public here and now?

                  You did not understand anything from what I wanted to convey to youvolcano,
                  ...It's a pity. Well, that is your problem ...
            2. Kshatriy
              Kshatriy 18 August 2012 13: 59
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              Quote: Pashhenko Nikolay
              Or we have already taken all rights from atheists.

              Yes, no one took anything from you ... just read from E. Blavatskaya about the sect of "atheists" about their faith and religion .... As I understand it, you have "atheism" --- belief in Nobody and Nothing ... Absolutely I rejoice for your faith in the "Great Lucifer" --- for his words: "I Am Nobody and Nothing" ... I am glad for you, where you are striving, it is warm and dark and flies do not breed !!
              1. Grumbler
                Grumbler 20 August 2012 15: 45
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                Quote: Kshatriya
                Yes, no one took anything from you ... just read from E. Blavatskaya about the sect of "atheists" about their faith and religion .... As I understand it, you have "atheism" --- belief in Nobody and Nothing ... Absolutely I rejoice for your faith in the "Great Lucifer" --- for his words: "I Am Nobody and Nothing" ... I am glad for you, where you are striving, it is warm and dark and flies do not breed !!
                Interestingly, where is the belief in the "Great Lucifer" and Blavatsky (who is this anyway? The next prophet?). So read this nonsense and rejoice for us according to your convictions. And we will simply live and adhere to basic human (read Christian, Islamic, Buddhist) values, not because of fear of God's punishment. A person should consciously strive for self-improvement, and not be like a cat who does not shit in corners only because of fear of being thrashed from the owner. And if the Supreme Court does exist, then you will be judged not by Faith, but by your deeds ...
                By the way, the widely known "mad ow ..... schA." probably consider themselves to be believers.
                And one more thing: atheism denies the existence of "warm dark places", in vain you scare.
            3. hohryakov066
              hohryakov066 20 August 2012 11: 32
              +1
              Well, for example, I consider myself an atheist. Nevertheless, I do not care how they relate to the faith of my ancestors! Treat others the way you want to be treated. And those for whom the concept of freedom is associated with jumping a shank in a holy place for others, are just moral invalids!
        2. Kshatriy
          Kshatriy 18 August 2012 13: 51
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          Quote: Pashhenko Nikolay
          do the roots of your Orthodoxy come from Israel?

          Orthodoxy, as the orthodox religion of the Greek interpretation of the Christian religion ??? In the Slavic Vedic understanding, Orthodoxy has a broader interpretation in the modern World .... (but I’m not an enlightener to you ... and not a Christian .. Believe in what you want - your right)
          Quote: Pashhenko Nikolay
          Your mother and father Jesus were Jews, and therefore he himself is a Jew of pure blood?

          Yes, your knowledge in the Creed of the Christian religion is so deep that there are no words .... yes you are the Great Bible interpreter !!! And you did not think to create another Christian sect based on your, such deep research of the origin of Jesus Christ ????
      2. Kshatriy
        Kshatriy 18 August 2012 13: 26
        +1
        Quote: Ruslan
        Jews always support those who encroach on Orthodox shrines

        Dear fighter for the shrines of Orthodoxy !!! Please learn to distinguish between Jews and Jews! I understand that it’s more difficult, but Truth is always at the forefront!
        Dobran Mendel in the crossings Dmitry Mendeleev - The Great Russian Scientist - ALWAYS considered himself a Russian man (there are a huge number of examples ...) ..... read about "mad vaginas" - the statements of the Jew Wasserman ... (I'm half I just don't know such sophisticated curses ...)
        1. Ruslan
          Ruslan 18 August 2012 15: 41
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          Quote: Kshatriya
          Dear fighter for the shrines of Orthodoxy !!! Please learn to distinguish between Jews and Jews! I understand that it’s more difficult, but Truth is always at the forefront!
          Dear, before you get smart, first bother to read the main provisions of Zionism (the official ideology of the state of Israel) and then read the main provisions in Judaism - the main religion of the Jewish state, and then let yourself know who they are, of course there are rare exceptions like not all Germans were fascists but those who were not disturbed by conscience to work in the factories of the Wehrmacht and to make weapons which killed Soviet people.
          1. Pimply
            Pimply 18 August 2012 15: 51
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            That is, you are now comparing Zionism and German Nazism (not fascism, the official ideology of the Third Reich is Nazism), right?
            1. Ruslan
              Ruslan 18 August 2012 16: 01
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              Quote: Pimply
              That is, you are now comparing Zionism and German Nazism (not fascism, the official ideology of the Third Reich is Nazism), right?
              Compare yourself - there are Aryans and God's chosen ones, there are subhuman
              and goyim. You can read about the attitude of these "elected" to the goyim in the Shulchan Aruch, the Torah, and the Talmud, and believe Hitler will seem to you a humanist. Further in Nazism - the conquest of living space, see the symbolism of the flag of Israel, what do we see there? Israel from Tigris to Euphrates. Well, of course, the basis is fables from the old testament (supposedly they always lived there), Hitler has the same fable about the Aryans.
              1. Pimply
                Pimply 18 August 2012 16: 15
                +3
                You are beautiful in your anti-Semitism.

                I read the Torah, Shulchan Aruch, and Mishnu with Gmar in the original. And I dare to assure you - you are carrying such nonsense that an educated person who read all this would not carry it.

                A chosen people, a respected one, is a people that carries a greater number of duties to Gd, a people who will be judged more strictly in the next world than the rest - because they must be stricter than other nations to keep the commandments. Jews are required to observe the 10 commandments and a lot of conventions. The rest of the nations - no. Seven are binding on them.

                Further, anyone can become a Jew through the giyur procedure. That is, having studied Judaism to a certain extent and having passed the exam, you will officially become a Jew, and you will be considered a Jew both by faith and by blood. I don’t remember something from the Aryans. As I do not recall in any Jewish book command over other nations as an end in itself. The goal of the Jews is to live in the land granted by Gd, and to serve Gd. From here from the Tigris and Efrat. But nowhere is it said that this land should be conquered immediately, and that it should be conquered. It is given to the Jews by Gd. She is already Jewish.

                Further, the word “goy”, so beloved by anti-Semites, is used in the Torah, including in relation to the Jews. Simply because in ancient Hebrew it means "people" (one of the designations), and is not used in the singular.

                Now tell me one more thing - are you a Christian?
                1. Ruslan
                  Ruslan 18 August 2012 17: 49
                  +1
                  Quote: Pimply
                  I read the Torah, Shulchan Aruch, and Mishnu with Gmar in the original.

                  Since Jews hid the original of this book from Christians, its translations into European languages ​​were made “in the form of processing” (this is noted by the pre-revolutionary Jewish Encyclopedia), that is, with a reduction in the most shocking prescriptions. Apparently, for such a softened version in the nineteenth century, Rabbi Shlomo Ganzfried compiled “Kitsur Shulkhan Arukh”. However, even this shortened version in Russia, publishers were embarrassed to publish in full. In the introduction to the book, the Chairman of the KEROOR Executive Committee, Rabbi Zinovy ​​Kogan, makes a frank confession (italics ours):

                  “Judaism in Russia at the highest level is recognized as one of the traditional religions. On this basis, the KEROOR Editorial Board considered it necessary to omit some halachic instructions in this translation .., the placement of which in a Russian-language publication would be perceived by the Russian population who do not adhere to Judaism as an unprovoked insult. A reader who wants to read Kitsur Shulchan Arukh in its entirety is invited to the yeshiva to study this and many other holy books in the original. ”

                  That is, one of the leaders of Russian Jewry openly recognizes some provisions of the Jewish code of conduct as insulting to the non-Jewish population of Russia, but considers it possible to invite his fellow tribesmen to study these insults in yeshiva (Jewish schools) financed from Russian (state and regional) budgets. However, even in this censored "non-derogatory" publication, we find the following revelations:

                  - The Laws on Idolatry say that “a figure of two crossed sticks that is worshiped is forbidden to be used” - that is, Christianity is unequivocally ranked as idolatry and all the instructions on the attitude towards idolaters mean in Russia, first of all, Orthodox Christians: “it is forbidden to sell the books of TaNaha [Old Testament] printed with such changes that help them to establish themselves in their beliefs ”; “It is forbidden to listen to their music and smell their incense; “If a person hears their music, let him shut his ears”; “It is forbidden to look at the idol” [icon] (p. 389);
                  1. Ruslan
                    Ruslan 18 August 2012 17: 51
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                    - an injunction at the sight of an “idolatrous house” [temple] to pronounce a curse on him: “The house of the proud will uproot Gd”, and at the sight of the destroyed “idolatrous house” exclaim: “Gd of retribution has appeared!”; not only that: “some believe that we are talking about the homes of non-Jews living in peace, tranquility and wealth” - which, apparently, is already intolerable for Jews (pp. 389-390; compare below with example 4 from a more complete “Shulchan Aruha”);

                    - resolution of ridicule in relation to the non-Jewish religion (p. 390);

                    - the prohibition of teaching non-Jews to craft (p. 390);

                    - equating a non-Jew to excrement (pp. 47 and 48; compare below with example 7);

                    - “a Jewess should not help a non-Jew during childbirth” (p. 390; compare below with example 8);

                    - the prohibition on eating “goyim food” [prepared by a non-Jew] and to use without ritual washing dishes purchased or taken from a non-Jew (pp. 98-100); “We must ensure that a Jew and a non-Jew do not fry or cook, putting their dishes next to them” (p. 121) (compare below with examples 12-14).

                    - “if a person borrowed from a non-Jew, and he died, he has the right to refuse to pay his son, who does not know for sure whether this Jew borrowed from his father” (p. 405; compare below with example 23);

                    - in cash settlements “if a non-Jew made a mistake himself, he is allowed to take advantage of his mistake” (p. 406; compare below with examples 19-22);

                    - “It is forbidden to deliver a Jew into the hands of a non-Jew, whether it is a question of the life of a Jew or of his property; and it doesn’t matter if this is done through any action or words; and it is forbidden to report to him or indicate the places where his property is hidden. And every traitor loses his share in the future world ”(p. 408; compare below with examples 25-26);

                    “The commandment requires each person to love everyone who belongs to the Jewish people as his own body ... And therefore, you need to tell the good things about the Jews and spare their money, how he pity his own money and take care of his own honor” (p. 81 ) ...

                    In the introduction to this book, the Chairman of the KEROOR Executive Committee writes that “The Talmud is an unsurpassed monument of Jewish genius”, and this selection of his behavioral morality, “Kitsur Shulkhan Arukh” is “an anthology of the Jewish civilization of our time ... This book is absolutely necessary for you. You can do what is written in it and be sure that you have fulfilled the will of the Almighty. ”

                    And Russian Jewry fully follows this advice. In a brief introduction to “this important publication” (already the second in two years), the chief rabbi of Russia Adolf Shaevich notes: “The interest in this book exceeded our wildest expectations. A huge amount of grateful feedback from a variety of people throughout this time comes to our address. An even greater number of letters contain urgent requests for help in acquiring this publication. ”
                    1. Ruslan
                      Ruslan 18 August 2012 17: 52
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                      Already on the basis of this book, prosecutors and judges should have long ago, in accordance with Article 282 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation, to stop the spread of this religion, which incites racial hatred of other “population of Russia” among Jews. However, let's take a look at that “ideally complete volume of an unsurpassed monument of Jewish morality” - “Shulkhan Aruha”, which Russian Jews study in yeshivas contained in the state account.

                      We will use the translations from the Jewish Amsterdam publication made by a judicial expert, a Hebraic scholar, Dr. K. Ecker, for a trial in Germany in 1883 (Dr. K. Ecker. Der “Judenspiegel” im Lichte der Wahrheit, - eine wissentschaftliche Untersuchung. Paderborn. 1984; Russian translation: Dr. K. Ecker. "Jewish Mirror" in the Light of Truth. Scientific Research. M., 1906). The Jews instituted this court in connection with the fact that one of their fellow tribesmen (Justus-Bryman), who converted to Christianity, published the laws of “Shulkhan Aruha”, but the court acquitted the publisher, finding the translation corresponding to the original source. Dr. Ecker only corrected minor inaccuracies - the text he corrected, exactly corresponding to the Jewish originals, will be given below in 30 typical passages we have selected. (We leave the uppercase letters in the designation of the Jewish “god” in accordance with the spelling of the source; “goy” means pagan people or an individual pagan person, “Akum” means idolaters - Jews are also Christians among these and other, under the word “idol” is respectively understood also Christian crucifix and icons. For the convenience of references to these quotes, we have provided them with their own serial numbering.)

                      1. “It is forbidden to sell water to Akum when you know that he intends to make water of baptism from it” ”(Khoshen Hamishpat 151-1, Haga).

                      2. “Before the sovereigns and priests who have a cross on their dress or wear an image on their breasts, as the custom of the lords requires, one should not bow or take off his hat, unless this is done in such a way that it cannot be determined [for what it is done]; for example, they purposely drop money, or one must get up before they come, and in general one should take off his hat and bow before they approach ”(Iore de'a 150-3, Haga).

                      3. “When you come to the city and find that they [Akum] rejoice on their holiday, then rejoice with them to avoid hostility, because this is only a sham ... When you want to send a gift to Akum on the eighth day after Christmas, which they call it “New Year” ... it is necessary to send him a present as possible on the eve of this day ”(Iore de'a 148-12, Haga).

                      4. “Whoever sees ... the subject of idolatry must say:“ Praise be to you, Lord God, King of the universe, for the patience shown to those who violate your will! ” “Whoever visits a place where idolatry has been eradicated [for example, near the ruined temple] is obliged to say:“ Praise be to you, Lord God, King of the universe, who has eradicated idolatry from this place! ”“ (Orach-khaim 224-1 and -2) .
                      1. Ruslan
                        Ruslan 18 August 2012 17: 54
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                        5. "Everyone who sees idols will do a good deed when he burns and destroys them." “We must try to eradicate idols and call them shameful names” (Iore de'a 146-14 and -15).

                        6. “When someone owns a house adjacent to the house of idols ... let the gap be filled with blackthorn or human eruptions” (Iore de'a 143-1).

                        7. “If ten [Jews] read the prayer of Kadish or Kedush together, then one of those who do not belong to them may also answer [say“ amen ”). Others consider it necessary that they are not separated by feces or Akum ”(Orakh-khaim 55-20).

                        8. “It is forbidden to save them [Akum] when they are close to death. For example, when you see that one of them fell into the sea, then do not help him out, even if he wants to pay. According to this, they cannot be treated, even for money, with the exception of the case when one can fear hostility ... And it is also allowed to test medicine on Akum, is it useful? ” (Iore de'a 158-1).

                        9. “A Jew who marries an Akum, or a Jew who marries Akum, receives 39 punches according to the law, because it is said:“ Do not be related to them ”(Deuteronomy VII, 3)” (Eben ha'etzer 16-1 ) “When an Akum or Jew who has become Akum married according to his religion to an Akum or Jewess who became an Akum and subsequently converted to Jewry, then they do not pay any attention to their marriage ... even if he lived with her for many years, it’s only fornication ”(Eben ha'etzer 26-1, Haga).

                        10. “His [Akum] seed is seen as the seed of cattle” (Toseft-supplement to the Talmud Ketubot, 3 b).

                        11. “For the sake of the [dead] servants and maidservants ... they don’t say a word of comfort to those who remained after them, but we must tell him [the owner]:“ God will repay your loss to you ”, just like they say to a person when he gets sick either a bull or a donkey ”(Iore de'a 377-1).

                        12. “It is permitted to cook more for one’s servant and maid in the same pot in which they cook for themselves; but for another Akum it is forbidden in any case ... It is further permitted in the pot in which they cook for themselves, add food and for dogs ”(Orakh-khaim 512-1 and -8).

                        13. "When someone buys tableware from Akum ... whether it’s new, then he must wash it in a water reservoir or in a well containing 40 measures." “A Jew who sold dishes to Akum and bought back from him should wash it” (Iore de'a 120-1 and –11).

                        14. “When Akum arranges dinner at the wedding of his son or his daughter, then the Jew is forbidden to eat there, even when he has his [kosher] dish, and his own footman stands by him and serves him” (Iore de'a 152- 1).

                        15. “You cannot listen to the patient when he orders [in a will, etc.] to give a gift to Akum, because it is the same as if he orders to commit a sin with his money” (Hoshen ha-mishpat 256-3).
                      2. Ruslan
                        Ruslan 18 August 2012 18: 02
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                        Do you have any questions?
                      3. Pimply
                        Pimply 18 August 2012 18: 47
                        +1
                        Dear, did we switch to you? Have you served together? Ate at the same table? Did I drink with you on the brudershaft? Communicating with you disrespectfully. It seems not. So why do you, dear ones, think that with your copy-paste talent and lack of knowledge and your own thoughts, you have the right to poke me, eh? Because he found an article that another anti-Semite wrote, pulling distorted quotes, and posted it here?

                        You are illiterate and stupid. In order to argue reasonably, for starters, you should at least read what you are talking about. Moreover, in a normal translation, or, even better, in the original. Because in various sacred Jewish texts one can find things even worse - for example, about stoning, or exile, or slavery - with respect to both Jews and Gentiles. Which does not say at all that these norms are applicable and applied in modern times.
                      4. aquatic
                        aquatic 18 August 2012 19: 16
                        -1
                        where are the arguments? because everything is written correctly there? or admit it is prohibited?
                      5. Pimply
                        Pimply 18 August 2012 19: 18
                        -3
                        Where exactly? And what arguments do you want?
                      6. aquatic
                        aquatic 18 August 2012 19: 51
                        +1
                        question to question) about how familiar this is))
                        Ruslan gave you very specific listings and asked a question, but you are above the argument) you are right initially))) why argue with a goy like that?
                        We are all equal here and you are not bringing any sane arguments why do you comment at all? Do not agree but have nothing to say? argument You are not aware but you are wrong - nonsense
                      7. Pimply
                        Pimply 18 August 2012 21: 03
                        +3
                        You see, to prove that not a camel is a problem of hares.

                        I do not need to prove anything, I have proved everything to myself. The article is so illiterate that the number of errors is off the charts. To refute everything is to write an article, or even a monograph. You see, it’s easy to take as a point any convenient examples - eliminating the inconvenient ones. Remember the parable about the seven blind dervishes, in each of which the elephant looked like something else. So, the author of the article felt the elephant by the tail, and says that the elephant looks like a snake. Does he look like?

                        The situation with the understanding of Israeli realities is most clearly depicted by the story of Matan Vilnai, who literally fought for this post, because Beijing is not a link, it is an encouragement.
                        http://www.newsru.co.il/arch/israel/09apr2012/posol307.html

                        The author climbs into realities, which he did not understand. And this is his misfortune.
                      8. Rumata
                        Rumata 18 August 2012 18: 15
                        +2
                        How many times have I seen this same copy-paste, word for word, Adolf Shaevich is not the chief rabbi of Russia. For 12 years already, this article was written in 98, and since then it has been circulating on the Internet and is supplemented. Despite the fact that each sentence from the above has been repeatedly refuted, with quotes in Hebrew all equal, this opus continues to walk on the Internet, why include gray matter when you can use copy pastes. Most of this is not translated correctly, the rest is taken out of context. It's like a story in the Talmud where two elders argue about the court and the law, one says that you need to stone the unfaithful wife, the other tries to convince him, interested persons take the phrases of the first one slightly correct about VUAL "The cheating wife needs to be stoned blah blah blah blah"
                      9. Ruslan
                        Ruslan 18 August 2012 20: 30
                        +1
                        Quote: Rumata
                        Most of this is not translated correctly,
                        interesting excuse - translated incorrectly, or taken out of context, well, at least the old testament is translated correctly? And what do we see there the calls of the Jewish god to live on a percentage
                        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0-YHGN9nY0&feature=endscreen&NR=1
                        or the call of genocide to conquer the promised land by killing women and children or is the translation wrong again?
                      10. Arkan
                        Arkan 18 August 2012 22: 14
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                        RuslanGreetings! In order to make sure that the Jews wanted to spit on universal human values, laws and morals, there is no need to delve into old translations and texts. Just look at the modern history of Israel: the United States has vetoed the UN Security Council 76 times in total. Basically, the veto was used to protect Israel's actions (the exception is two or three cases of swaying Nicaragua and Grenada), UN Security Council Resolution 242 (1967) has not been implemented by Israel (and will not be implemented without external military pressure). The very emergence of modern Israel - sheer lies and deception (initially, the British promised the Arabs that the "Jewish National House." would be nothing more than a "small cultural center with a piece of land" ..., a little later the Arabs were promised that there would be no more than 70 Jews in Palestine ... Arabs really have nothing to respect Jews for, they have nothing to negotiate with them, and they have something to kill them for.
                      11. Pimply
                        Pimply 18 August 2012 23: 48
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                        I repeat - you are beautiful.

                        "Ministry of Foreign Affairs, November 2, 1917
                        Dear Lord Rothschild,
                        On behalf of His Majesty’s Government, I have the honor to convey to you the following declaration, which expresses sympathy for the Zionist aspirations of the Jews, submitted to the Cabinet of Ministers and approved by it:
                        “His Majesty’s Government is approvingly considering the establishment of a national center for the Jewish people in Palestine, and will make every effort to help achieve this goal; it’s clearly understood that no action should be taken that would violate the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine or the rights and political status enjoyed by Jews in any other country. ”
                        I would be very grateful to you if you brought this Declaration to the attention of the Zionist Federation.
                        Sincerely,
                        Arthur James Balfour.
                      12. Pimply
                        Pimply 19 August 2012 00: 05
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                        On the basis of the decisions of the San Remo conference, the League of Nations handed over a mandate to Palestine in the 1922 of Great Britain, explaining this by the need to “establish political, administrative and economic conditions in the country for the safe formation of a Jewish national home.” [3] According to the mandate, Britain committed:
                        “Article 2: ... to create such political, administrative and economic conditions that will ensure the establishment of a Jewish national home in Palestine, as set out in the preamble, and the development of self-government institutions.
                        ... protect the civil and religious rights of the people of Palestine, regardless of race or religion.
                        5 Article: ... no part of Palestinian territory may be ceded, leased or placed under the control of a foreign power.
                        Article 6: .... to promote Jewish immigration and encourage the dense settlement of lands by Jews, including state lands and vacant lands that are not necessary for public needs, while ensuring that the rights and position of other sectors of the population are not violated.
                        Article 7: ... to facilitate the acquisition of Palestinian citizenship by Jews who choose Palestine as their place of permanent residence "
                        Political scientist Mitchell Bard notes that the mandate indicated “the historical connection of the Jewish people with Palestine” and the validity of “reconstituting its national focus” on this territory. The word “Arab” is never mentioned in the text of the mandate.
                        24 July 1922 year mandate was formally approved by the governments of 52 countries of the League of Nations.

                        In the 1945 year, when the United Nations was created instead of the League of Nations, an article was introduced in its charter on maintaining the validity of all the mandates of the League of Nations. Do you understand, right? That is, this decision is still binding, and includes the territory of Jordan as well. Unlike the 1948 8 recommendation decision).
                      13. Arkan
                        Arkan 19 August 2012 18: 48
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                        Pimply,
                        ))) And do the Palestinians in Israel have the same rights as the Jews? Or do the Jews and people not consider refugees living in Lebanon and Gaza?
                        Quote: Pimply
                        The word “Arab” is never mentioned in the text of the mandate.

                        Exactly))). Meanwhile, England, for help in the war with the Ottoman Empire, promised AREA INDEPENDENCE. However, she also promised Jews (again for her merits in the fight against the Ottomans) help in creating her own state but on the territory of modern Uruguay Well, how did the Jews manage to convince Balfour to change the policy of England - the Jews know better))). And before referring to UN resolutions, the Jews would be better off learning to implement these resolutions themselves, or Israel has already returned to the borders of the 67th year, and were refugees returned to their homes?
                      14. Arkan
                        Arkan 19 August 2012 22: 07
                        +2
                        Sorry, I was mistaken.))) The place of the "Jewish national hearth" should have been Uganda, not Uruguay. But definitely not Israel.)))))))))))))
                      15. Rumata
                        Rumata 19 August 2012 14: 13
                        +1
                        Stop poking at me with translations and strange interpretations. Give here quotes in Hebrew or Aramaic, with your interpretation, if you cannot provide this, then you build your entire position on the writings of someone else, and it is not clear what exactly this other smoked when "translated". I will repeat once again, this article does not stand up to criticism, dozens of times exact quotes from the original have been given, smart people with not crap brains agreed that in this way you can turn anything you want, be it Pushkin or Lenin.
                        "Tell me, uncle, it's not for nothing
                        Moscow, burned by fire,
                        The Frenchman is given away?

                        VERY EASY TO TURN TO -

                        "Moscow is not given to the French for nothing" (M.Yu. Lermontov)
                  2. Pimply
                    Pimply 18 August 2012 18: 41
                    +3
                    Md. You are beautiful.

                    If you build a certain structure in your imagination, then tearing quotes out of context, you can create any, most sinister image, even in relation to the most holy man. It is so simple - without understanding the essence of things, using other people's thoughts, blaming. The unnecessary facts are denied, the necessary ones are adjusted to a specific format. And who cares that you focused around one of the translations into Russian, while there are dozens of them, and they are in the public domain. And what really changes are the lack of several lines:

                    "A man must be careful not to pass between two women, nor between two dogs, or between two pigs. It is not worth two men to let a woman, or a dog, or a pig pass between them."

                    If you studied the topic a little deeper, you would know. that all these are just comments on the Torah, the so-called The Torah is oral, attempts to understand and comprehend the sacred text, attempts that constantly change over time are canceled, etc.

                    I recommend you read the originals. How you can distort text is well shown here.

                    http://scilla.ru/works/raznoe/enov.html
                    1. Ruslan
                      Ruslan 18 August 2012 23: 12
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                      Quote: Pimply
                      I recommend you read the originals. How you can distort text is well shown here.

                      READ and pay attention to the delusional excuses as a matter of fact
                      1. The phrase would be taken out of context: “A Jewess should not help a non-Jew during childbirth, except in the case when this Jewess is known as a midwife - and in this case she is allowed (so as not to cause hostility towards us), but only for a fee and on a weekday ”(Kitsur Shulchan Arukh, ch. 167: Laws of idolatry, p. 19, p. 390).
                      2. See 4.2. “A child may fall ill or die and then the Jewess will be blamed. But if she is a midwife and receives a salary, then she can not be afraid of the accusation, because they have a rule that a professional person will not commit deliberately wrong actions in order not to lose a fee ”(Shulkhan Arukh, Iore de'a 154, b).
                      3. This injunction, as well as the prohibition on a Jewish doctor to help a non-Jew on Shabbat (who had the same reasons as above), was canceled by Rabbi Owadiy Yosef, the largest living authority in the region of Halakha, at the Conference of European Rabbis in 2004
                  3. v53993
                    v53993 19 August 2012 07: 11
                    -1
                    Ruslan,
                    Are you tired of throwing beads in front of pigs?
                2. SlavaP
                  SlavaP 18 August 2012 17: 56
                  +1
                  Cool, thanks from a thoroughbred goy ...
                  1. Roman Skomorokhov
                    Roman Skomorokhov 18 August 2012 23: 21
                    +1
                    Pimpled, bravo !!! Burn more !!!
                3. DimYang
                  DimYang 19 August 2012 20: 02
                  +1
                  Quote: Pimply
                  A chosen people, a respected one, is a people that carries a greater number of duties to Gd,


                  Only now I wonder who the Jews call God? Is this dirty, stinking hermaphrodite Yahweh? What a god such and flock.
              2. DimYang
                DimYang 19 August 2012 19: 58
                -1
                Quote: Ruslan
                Compare yourself - there are Aryans and God's chosen ones, there are subhumans and goyim. You can read about the attitude of these "elected" to the goyim in the Shulchan Aruch, the Torah, and the Talmud, and believe Hitler will seem to you a humanist. Further in Nazism - the conquest of living space, see the symbolism of the flag of Israel, what do we see there? Israel from Tigris to Euphrates. Well, of course, the basis is fables from the old testament (supposedly they always lived there), Hitler has the same fable about the Aryans.


                I fully support it. I will add: half of the leadership of the 3rd Reich were Ash-Ashkenazi Jews. Yes and Hitler is that Adolf Shikelgruber.
        2. Pimply
          Pimply 18 August 2012 19: 28
          0
          The division into Jews and Jews is a wonderful technique for anti-Semites. Let's find some good, tame Jews. And to shoot those bad ones that we are not happy with. It's cute
        3. saturn.mmm
          saturn.mmm 19 August 2012 22: 51
          +1
          Quote: Kshatriya
          Dobran Mendel in the crossings Dmitry Mendeleev - Great Russian Scientist

          Outstanding Russian scientist and public figure D.I. Mendeleev was born on January 27 (February 8), 1834 in the village of Verkhnie Aremzyany, not far from Tobolsk. His father, Ivan Pavlovich Mendeleev, graduated from the theological school in 1804, and then the philological department of the St. Petersburg Main Pedagogical Institute, and was assigned to Tobolsk, where he later became the director of the Tobolsk provincial male classical gymnasium and schools of the Tobolsk district, "a teacher of philosophy, graceful arts and political economy ". Mother, Maria Dmitrievna, was the daughter of the Tobolsk merchant Korniliev.
          I do not have anything against the Jews, just like the truth is more expensive.
      3. ilf
        ilf 18 August 2012 14: 21
        +2
        It’s stupid to generalize to all Jews that they support Pusi is not worth it, just look at all kinds of artificial figures in our country, the media support them, now what to say that all Russians support, I personally don’t, and I agree with the court verdict so that the next time who dares to defile knows what will be put in jail!
        1. Ruslan
          Ruslan 18 August 2012 15: 44
          0
          [quote = ilf] It’s stupid to generalize to all Jews that they support PUSI is not worth it, [/ quote See the result of Internet voting - it supports a large majority, and before that there was a vote on who you support Russia or Georgia in the conflict, and also the question is Russia is the enemy No. 1 for the Western world - and what was your result?
        2. Ruslan
          Ruslan 18 August 2012 15: 46
          0
          Quote: ilf
          Stupidly generalize to all Jews that they support Pusi is not worth it
          See the result of Internet voting - a large majority supports it, and before that there was a vote on the question of whom do you support Russia or Georgia in the conflict, and also on the question of whether Russia is enemy No. 1 for the Western world - and what result did you think?
          1. Pimply
            Pimply 18 August 2012 15: 51
            -1
            It is possible in more detail, plz. With links. I wonder where you take the grass
          2. Montefiore
            Montefiore 18 August 2012 16: 00
            +9
            In Israel, people from the CIS countries speak Russian fluently, there are also many newspapers and the Israeli channel in Russian, signs in Russian are displayed on cafes, shops, and offices. No one at any level prevents this.

            Now let’s look at Ukraine, Russophobia breaks all records! They are ready to cut the throat for gas for those who are warming you; for bases, bidding, nationalists and fascists strive to enact anti-Russian laws with enviable persistence, all sorts of Nazi gangs and mercenaries are constantly visiting the Caucasus, or they are cutting Russian guys with mujahideen in Chechnya or helping to lead Georgia preparations for the genocide. Demolition of monuments and parades of fascists. At the same time in Israel, parades are held at the state level expressing gratitude to war veterans, Russian Jews. A monument to soldiers of the Red Army is being erected in Netanya!

            And now the question is - Who really hates Russia? Israel and the Jews?
            1. v53993
              v53993 19 August 2012 07: 14
              0
              So this is their childhood illness, which Grandfather Lenin wrote about.
        3. Insurgent
          Insurgent 18 August 2012 16: 16
          +1
          If a mosque was desecrated in Saudi Arabia, it would have been little if it had not been shown to them, and they would not have written cries of defense
          1. Pimply
            Pimply 18 August 2012 19: 26
            +1
            Do you want to compare Russia with Saudi Arabia, where women, for example, are forbidden to drive?
            1. Insurgent
              Insurgent 18 August 2012 22: 29
              0
              Actually, as I understand it, you justify them, go into the temple and defile it
              1. Pimply
                Pimply 19 August 2012 00: 02
                0
                Did I write something about making excuses? I wrote about the fact that there is a court, and there is a court. At the first, there are expectations for the law to triumph - for anyone, including you. In the second case - anything but the law will triumph - and it will hit anyone in this country. Including for you
                1. Insurgent
                  Insurgent 19 August 2012 19: 57
                  0
                  You know near the wall crying if this fun trinity was curving, they were stoned
        4. Pimply
          Pimply 18 August 2012 16: 29
          +2
          And then Pussy Riot surfaced.

          The question with Pussy is not what they committed or not, how insulting their behavior is or not. The question is that in the process the judicial system was literally raped, which showed that facts, evidence, and so on do not matter. All that matters is political orientation and the order given to the court. This case is more revealing than the Khodorkovsky trial.

          Hodor could also be guilty a thousand times. And, most likely, it is. But not by what he is accused of. And the problem is that instead of being able to prove their case, that in the case of Khodorkovsky, that in the case of Pussy Riot, the judge and impartiality were sent to rest, and instead they were appointed prosecutors who had to make the decision. And such a situation can affect anyone. Including - and the inhabitants of the forum.
          1. Insurgent
            Insurgent 18 August 2012 22: 30
            0
            They must be responsible for their deeds.
            1. Pimply
              Pimply 19 August 2012 00: 07
              0
              Answer - yes. But when the court is turned into a farce, in my opinion, this is a greater insult to the church and believers than what the girls did.
              1. v53993
                v53993 19 August 2012 07: 21
                +1
                Prostitutes-journalists turned the trial into a farce, focusing on these idiots, not on screenwriters.
                1. Pimply
                  Pimply 19 August 2012 15: 44
                  0
                  Well no. The court did not become a farce. He simply was not there. He is a court because he is a court because guilt must be proved, and not just, but by law. And when, instead of a judge, another prosecutor, this is no longer a court. This is a disaster.
                  1. DIMS
                    DIMS 19 August 2012 16: 09
                    0
                    That is, the appearance of these in the HHS is not proven?
                    1. Pimply
                      Pimply 19 August 2012 16: 26
                      +1
                      The issue was not guilty, but to the extent of restraint, the adequacy of the evidence on the presented charge, and the impartiality of the court. For example, you, for reasons unknown to me, will scream loudly in the street, next to the church. But extremism will be attributed to you in court. And they will give many, many years. Or simply - you will have an accident and you will be innocent, or your guilt will be negligible. And they will blame you. Despite the evidence, lawyers and more. Just because the judge will ignore ANY evidence in your favor, support ANY evidence against you. This is a blow to the judicial system. The judicial system must be independent and not biased. Because when the law goes away, lawlessness comes. And it hits everyone.
                      1. DIMS
                        DIMS 19 August 2012 16: 37
                        0
                        Was it adequate to reprimand once again for another hooligan trick, so that these "girls" become even more confident in their impunity? That would be a blow.
                      2. Pimply
                        Pimply 19 August 2012 16: 48
                        +2
                        You do not seem to understand the difference between a court and a court of justice. There is a law. When he is trampled upon by an ordinary person, the person goes to court. But when a court, which should be impartial and objective, is not one, then why is it needed at all? It is easier to arrange lynching. Burn at the bonfires of those who do not like me or you, arrange a Lynch trial. Why do we need evidence, legislation, etc.?

                        The girls killed someone, crippled that they were being put in a pre-trial detention center under the pretext of "their own safety." The court must be the court. No more, no less. Lawyers, prosecutor, judge. When a judge is excluded from the equation, and another prosecutor is imprisoned in his place, this is not a court. This is lawlessness.

                        And such lawlessness beats everyone in this country, no matter how he relates to this idiotic trick. Because next time in a situation where instead of a judge the prosecutor sits, you may find yourself.
                      3. DIMS
                        DIMS 19 August 2012 16: 54
                        0
                        Yes, I understand everything. The court is when those who you like are acquitted and those who are not punished.

                        In our country, a schizophrenic was sentenced to 16 years of strict imprisonment and ordered to be treated at the time of imprisonment. You must remember that case. Do you have a lot of people come forward in his defense?
                      4. Ruslan
                        Ruslan 19 August 2012 19: 25
                        -1
                        Quote: DIMS
                        In our country, a schizophrenic was sentenced to 16 years of strict imprisonment and ordered to be treated at the time of imprisonment. You must remember that case. Do you have a lot of people come forward in his defense?
                        There is no way for Gesheft Jews to spend money on a schizophrenic, that’s another thing about paying a dime out of Pusi and desecrating Russian shrines, and after that, through the media, try to split Russian society - especially part of the dehydrated (under the influence of Jewish Western media) youth and pit each other.
                        "want to relieve themselves of the wailing wall!"
                      5. igor67
                        igor67 19 August 2012 19: 34
                        +1
                        Ruslan,
                        Ruslan can still ask first, and then write. We have schizophrenics walking down the street. They get public housing, and it's not a fact that he drank pills in the morning
                      6. DIMS
                        DIMS 19 August 2012 19: 39
                        0
                        I'm actually talking about another schizophrenic. About the one who jumped into the Moscow synagogue with a knife
                      7. igor67
                        igor67 19 August 2012 19: 43
                        0
                        I’m sorry,
                      8. DIMS
                        DIMS 19 August 2012 19: 49
                        0
                        Just that court was really strange, like the verdict. But no storm of indignation, discussion of the differences between the court and the court did not cause. I do not like such double standards.
                      9. DimYang
                        DimYang 19 August 2012 20: 05
                        -1
                        Quote: DIMS
                        Just that court was really strange, like the verdict. But no storm of indignation, discussion of the differences between the court and the court did not cause. I do not like such double standards.


                        The Jews always, when their selfish interest is touched, make every possible effort to conceal everything. But for their own, to disassemble everything.
                      10. Ruslan
                        Ruslan 19 August 2012 19: 53
                        -1
                        Quote: igor67
                        Ruslan,
                        Ruslan can still ask first, and then write. We have schizophrenics walking down the street. They get public housing, and it's not a fact that he drank pills in the morning
                        Judge Igor, you’re sobering - those who paid for pusi were not marking the church (it had been rotten for a long time already, like the Catholic, Muslim, or Jewish - this was all business), but they were marking on faith - but this is already serious. Having opened the Western media, you will take away how much money has been put out to support this deed.
                      11. Karish
                        Karish 19 August 2012 19: 57
                        0
                        Quote: Ruslan
                        Having opened the Western media, you will take away how much money has been put out to support this deed.

                        You can link to the Western media you quoted
                      12. Ruslan
                        Ruslan 19 August 2012 22: 35
                        0
                        Quote: Karish
                        You can link to the Western media you quoted

                        http://www.bbc.co.uk/russian/multimedia/2012/08/120815_pussy_london.shtml
                      13. Karish
                        Karish 20 August 2012 06: 43
                        0
                        Quote: Ruslan
                        Having opened the Western media, you will take away how much money has been put out to support this deed.

                        In general, you promised a link to the Western media, and not to the RTR report, and it says that the action was organized through social networks.
                        Please once again, a reference to the Western media, where and how much money is allocated.
                      14. Ruslan
                        Ruslan 20 August 2012 09: 13
                        0
                        Quote: Karish
                        In general, you promised a link to the Western media, and not to the RTR report,
                        Do not fall for the fool is the BBC report and just turn on the TV and see how everyone in the news is talking about the freak with pusi wright and protests in the west.
                      15. Karish
                        Karish 19 August 2012 20: 05
                        -1
                        Quote: DIMS
                        In our country, a schizophrenic was sentenced to 16 years of strict imprisonment, having been ordered to be treated during imprisonment. You must remember that case. You have a lot of people advocated in his defense

                        I don’t support Pusik’s stupid trick, but in general they didn’t cut anyone, as I understand it. Just do not about rugged souls, etc. this is not within the competence of the Criminal Code. The act is stupid and dumb. The court is moronic to the same extent, having made a mockery of himself and raised hundreds of followers, because resisting power is shkolota's favorite pastime.
                        No one wondered why the Merzoyev case was suddenly sent for further investigation, almost on the day of the sentence. Yes, because after releasing him for murder (and they will certainly release him) and putting Pusey for hooliganism, the authorities understand that this would be an overkill. Therefore, Mirzoev’s sentence was detained, and you’ll see, it will be released in a month or two.
                      16. DIMS
                        DIMS 19 August 2012 20: 28
                        0
                        Do you think that someone else will want to sit down for hooliganism in places of worship?

                        Mirzoev? The biggest is reckless killing. Major for a long time was looking for adventure on his ass and found. Not all parents can buy.
                      17. Karish
                        Karish 19 August 2012 21: 19
                        0
                        Quote: DIMS
                        The biggest is reckless killing.

                        What is the term under the CPC, I'm not an expert.
                        Do you think that someone else will want to sit down for hooliganism in places of worship?

                        In general, nobody wants to sit, but at the same time they steal, rob and kill. The conversation is not about that. And about the creation of the image of martyrs in the eyes of followers. They sat down for their faith (as many now think) and this will bring followers to good fortune. You have to be smarter, otherwise everything seems to be done correctly, and evil is punished. but vseravno nobody supports you and thinks of a goat. You have to be more flexible and look at the future, then there will be no new Pusiks. A smart mountain will go around.
  2. esaul
    esaul 18 August 2012 08: 46
    +2
    "The question, of course, is an interesting one!"
    And we can talk about this for a long time, and Oleg’s review article is very interesting in terms of supplementing the set of all materials on this topic - the confrontation between Iran and Israel.
    But, that’s what emerges from all this multitude of options for the development of the Iran-Israel crisis, comrade ...

    From all this, a fairly clear picture emerges of the fact that Israel, in spite of its warlike rhetoric, is absolutely incapable of unloading the whole burden of a possible war, and for this it is making titanic efforts to draw the states into this adventure. And the states, in turn, for their domestic political reasons, are not in a hurry at all to stand up for the defense of their partner in this region - it can be expensive for Washington both in the run-up to the elections and in the situation of a mildly rolling crisis.

    The fact that Iran will attack Israel in the future is not a fact, but the fact that Ahmadinejad is smart enough to bring down the entire arsenal of his missile weapons on Israel in the event of an Israeli strike on Iranian targets is a truth beyond doubt. It is no coincidence that slogans about the great mission of self-sacrifice "in the struggle ..." are now in circulation throughout the Persian land. Further...
  3. Railways
    Railways 18 August 2012 08: 49
    +3
    Analyst Hussein al berberi

    Well, everything is clear ... negative
    1. Montefiore
      Montefiore 18 August 2012 13: 38
      0
      Exactly! They put an Arab analyst to talk about the imminent end of Israel. It's like an analyst of a Georgian or Lithuanian to plant a story about the future of Russia.

      The author collected garbage from all over the world and laid it out so that local xenophobes and fascists gloated. To spread unverified data referring to all the experts Mahmuds and ultra-left Israeli anti-Semites (yes, it also happens when a Semite is an anti-Semite) - in general, this is the peak of unprofessionalism. in dictionaries in search of the word "Ethics". Well, in case it is jaundice and cheap pulp fiction, there are no complaints.
  4. itr
    itr 18 August 2012 09: 03
    +2
    World War II also began with the pogroms of Jewish property. Well, something like this
    1. Kshatriy
      Kshatriy 18 August 2012 14: 19
      -4
      Quote: itr
      World War II also began with the pogroms of Jewish property. Well, something like this

      Dear enlighten me .. please, where do such thoughts come from ???? I am so for my wretchedness, and probably after reading the wrong books and publications, I was sure that this "Jewish" banking capital sought to redistribute the world with the hands of Comrade Hitler ... ..
    2. v53993
      v53993 19 August 2012 07: 23
      -1
      Once again, this was not the point. It is necessary to smash the Jews, not property, they then again stole it.
  5. Apollo
    Apollo 18 August 2012 09: 05
    +6
    Israel: to be or not to be?

    My answer will be short- the state of Israel and the people of Israel have the same right as all other countries, namely the right to exist!

    The nature of people is the same distinguish their same customs- Confucius
    1. ughhh
      ughhh 18 August 2012 09: 29
      -4
      let them live in Antarctica ...
      1. ughhh
        ughhh 18 August 2012 09: 52
        0
        and for what minus?
        The whole history of this state is endless wars, conflicts and aggression. With the support of the world hegemon, please note. The population lives half as much as in Moscow, and hundreds of millions of people and tens of states suffer from them. They gave them land, they allowed them to build their own homeland, they gave a lot of money, and why? Well, they don’t know how to live peacefully - let them roll to Antarctica, there they will have to solve other problems besides the nuclear program of Iran and the Gaza Strip!
        1. Pashhenko Nikolay
          Pashhenko Nikolay 18 August 2012 10: 01
          -1
          Well, nothing that these people have been pressing for three thousand years? Now, having received the state, they will not give it to anyone for nothing.
          1. ughhh
            ughhh 18 August 2012 11: 09
            +3
            Who, the Jews were pressed? You are touching me!
            However, we are not talking about Jews, but about Israeli policies. Incredibly aggressive and arrogant foreign policy of this tiny state.
          2. volcano
            volcano 18 August 2012 11: 10
            +1
            Nicholas
            And you try to study a question. Then you will understand that, to put it mildly, there was something to press for.
            Yes, and I recommend reading the Old Testament. There are a lot of interesting things about the founders.
            Just one example. They loved to pad their wives, passing them off as sisters under different rulers. Then discover the truth and essentially blackmail the author and knock out money and other benefits from him.
            Or At least ask why marriage with non-Jews is prohibited in Israel.
            Or how they divide the world into themselves and the rest, which are equated with animals.
            Maybe then you will understand that there is no smoke without fire.
            1. jak
              jak 18 August 2012 11: 16
              +2
              One thing the swami agrees: "there is no smoke without fire"

              “And the waters became blood ...” in the Sea of ​​Azov the water turned red like blood
              http://hranive.ru/1665/
            2. Pashhenko Nikolay
              Pashhenko Nikolay 18 August 2012 11: 26
              +1
              I’m not inclined to believe books that are more than two thousand years old. I live today and now. And I didn’t notice that someone there put someone under someone else’s for their own purposes. And in ancient times, I think all nations have enough sins.
              1. ughhh
                ughhh 18 August 2012 11: 46
                0
                Sorry, but you are ignorant.
              2. volcano
                volcano 18 August 2012 12: 32
                0
                Well, answer why TODAY AND NOW in the territory of Israel the marriage of a Jew and a non-Jew (goy) is prohibited.
                1. Pashhenko Nikolay
                  Pashhenko Nikolay 18 August 2012 12: 40
                  0
                  Yes, you don’t care what is forbidden in their country? Do you live there and want to marry a Jewess? If not, then why climb, as they say in a strange monastery with its own charter.
                  1. Oleg Rosskiyy
                    Oleg Rosskiyy 18 August 2012 22: 49
                    +1
                    Pashhenko Nikolay,
                    Nikolay, the fact is that no one crawls to them, they poke their noses along with their patrons everywhere, hiding behind democracy and the mania of destruction by Iran. To defend against the attacks of those who throw mud at our country - Russia, we have such a right no one will take it away. If someone wants to live by American "democracy", let them live, but don't touch us, especially those who left to live over the hill, you made your choice. We, who stayed here in Russia, choose our own path, this is our life. Those who down below are hinting to someone about brain cancer, it would be good to understand their brains, if any.
            3. Rumata
              Rumata 18 August 2012 13: 46
              0
              The diagnosis of brain cancer ...
            4. Kshatriy
              Kshatriy 18 August 2012 14: 44
              +1
              Quote: volkan
              Yes, and I recommend reading the Old Testament.

              The book is Extremely Extremist !!!!! (I read the Torah - in translation - ALL one to one chauvinism and extremism ... from the TORY of the "great" Semitic people)
              1. bachast
                bachast 18 August 2012 14: 51
                +1
                I read the toru-- in translation
                Who would doubt that..
              2. Pimply
                Pimply 18 August 2012 15: 52
                -3
                Well, if you read. Tell me what the Torah is. Just for starters
                1. Kshatriy
                  Kshatriy 18 August 2012 23: 09
                  0
                  Я
                  answered above ... for a start or for an end ....-- it’s you who are kind enough to decide yourself .....
                  1. Pimply
                    Pimply 19 August 2012 00: 16
                    -1
                    It's hard to call a reasoned answer 8)
                    1. v53993
                      v53993 19 August 2012 07: 28
                      0
                      The Jewish argument is the lack of argument. essentially the question asked.
                  2. Pimply
                    Pimply 19 August 2012 15: 41
                    0
                    So what is the Torah, after all? There is a very specific answer to this question.
              3. Insurgent
                Insurgent 18 August 2012 22: 33
                -5
                Well, well, the Koran means glorifying the Arab people, it’s easier, the Germans have already returned under Hitler Germany plunged before the Christian era showed a pile of barbaric primitive guise
          3. Kshatriy
            Kshatriy 18 August 2012 14: 36
            -1
            Quote: Pashhenko Nikolay
            Well, nothing that these people have been pressed for three thousand years?

            My dear friend, take yourself quite a bit of time and take AT LEAST an extremely insignificant increase in your intellectual level !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Amazingly, citing a huge number of articles according to chronology and even more number of official documents, relying on all Jewish encyclopedias, the outstanding writer of the Twentieth century A.I. Solzhenitsyn at the end of his life, summed up his work in the form of a two-volume "Two Hundred Years Together" about the coexistence of Russians and Jews for the last 200 years ... please your mosch and read, at least selectively, thesis ...!
            1. Pimply
              Pimply 19 August 2012 00: 15
              -2
              Solzhenitsyn was always a highly controversial writer. When you take the original quotes, it is surprising to discover how much to detect, how much he distorted them. 8)
              1. Kshatriy
                Kshatriy 19 August 2012 07: 58
                -3
                Quote: Pimply
                Solzhenitsyn was always a highly controversial writer. When you take the original quotes, it is surprising to discover how much to detect, how much he distorted them. 8)

                Dear descendant of the "military nobility" of Jewish nationality! Give examples of distortions, but unfounded accusations against A.I. Solzhenitsin do not pass! You are, in comparison with him, a literary "pygmy" .... even if you have stained the paper with some articles in Russian-language literature ..... Solzhenitsyn is a magnitude, and you are no one to call you !!!! !!!!!!!! Your only argument is a complaint to the admin ..... you are a pathetic nonentity and a great-grandson of a firefighter ....... Oh sorry, you are a great-grandson of a firefighter ... not so- is it?
                1. Pimply
                  Pimply 19 August 2012 15: 39
                  0
                  "Reference: EE, volume 2, p. 744. This is the article" Anti-Semitism ". And in it, after the words" previous reign ", which Solzhenitsyn dwells on, we read:" ... and blame the pogroms on Jews alone. " "Anti-Semitism" signed by Y. Gessen and S. Lozinsky.
                  Generally speaking, the Ignatiev commission discussed the issue of the eviction of Jews from rural areas "according to the verdicts of rural gatherings." Solzhenitsyn writes on his own behalf: “But other ministers, especially Finance Minister N.Kh. Bunge and Justice Minister D.N. Nabokov, did not allow Ignatiev to implement these measures, rejected the bill, relying on the fact that such extensive prohibitive measures cannot be taken , "without discussing them in the usual legislative order." (75) So talk about the boundless malicious arbitrariness of the Russian autocracy. " Ref. 75 - EE, Volume 1, p. 829-830 - refers us to the article "Alexander III, Russian Emperor", where in the specified column we read: "... both ministers - finance, Bunge, and justice, Nabokov, - presented the Committee of Ministers with notes condemning the path of repressive measures rejecting the bill of Gotovtsev and Count Ignatiev, they formally relied on the fact that repressive measures cannot be taken without discussing them in the usual legislative order "(emphasis added. - LK).
                  As it is easy to see, Solzhenitsyn's quotes dropped the assessment of the measures proposed by Count Ignatiev as "repressive." And it dropped out, probably because this word prevented from writing an ironic phrase about the "arbitrariness" of the tsarist authorities. Interestingly, the article "Alexander III" was signed again by Y. Gessen and S. Pozner, and in the book of Gessen the measures of Count Ignatiev are again called "repressive" (Y. Gessen, History of the Jewish people in Russia. M., 1993, p. 227 ).
                  Such a shift in emphasis with the help of ragged quotes allows us to present in a favorable light the attitude towards Jews during the reign of Alexander III. Of course, there were problems, but much less than the intellectual leftist publicists biased towards the authorities wrote about this. Say, that's Hesse confirms.
                  But Hesse does not confirm. "
                  1. Kshatriy
                    Kshatriy 22 August 2012 08: 46
                    0
                    Quote: Pimply
                    it’s amazing to discover how much to detect how much he distorted them. 8)

                    Quote: Pimply
                    Such a shift in emphasis with the help of ragged quotes allows us to present in a favorable light the attitude towards Jews during the reign of Alexander III.

                    Cashier "military nobleman" - you are all lying! AI Solzhenitsyn, according to your quotes, did NOT "distort", but only "shifted the emphasis with the help of a broken quote" ........ I do not want to talk to you at all, because if I write everything that I think about you and yours " pedigree "- I will get banned --- for life ..... Something, but to lay it - you are a master .....
            2. v53993
              v53993 19 August 2012 07: 31
              0
              Do not stop wondering at the tolerance and kindness of the Russian people! This is what the rogue Jews use.
      2. Odessa
        Odessa 18 August 2012 13: 13
        +4
        ughhh,
        let them live in Antarctica ...

        There is no internet laughing
      3. Kshatriy
        Kshatriy 18 August 2012 14: 23
        0
        How interesting ... I plus .... and you rod minus 2 ... interesting girls are dancing ......
        1. Odessa
          Odessa 18 August 2012 19: 27
          +1
          Kshatriy,
          How interesting ... I plus .... and you rod minus 2 ... interesting girls are dancing ......

          Girls are dancing, penguins waving ...
          The next time you write a comment, please kindly indicate to whom it is addressed. By the way, this applies to everyone!
          1. Kshatriy
            Kshatriy 18 August 2012 23: 14
            0
            Quote: Odessa
            kindly requested, indicate to whom it is addressed.

            I answer ... It was not a comment, but simply a statement of fact ...
  6. PRAVDARUB
    PRAVDARUB 18 August 2012 09: 08
    +5
    The plan is certainly good, but there is one thing ... But Iran will watch and calculate the damage of chtoli? Over the years, while Iran has been threatened, the country has armed itself to the teeth! Exercises were regularly conducted at sea in the air and on land, various scenarios were worked out, the air defense systems are equipped with advanced Russian-made vehicles such as shell, torus, beech, and most likely there are also three hundred, old complexes have undergone modernization of Iranian air defense this trap on an elephant and the Air Force Israel is far from an elephant of all leash sly fox! :) All these years, Iran has pushed tactical missiles at its factories and who knows how many units the Persians managed to stock up on? a thousand? two? five thousand? Given the tiny territory of Israel, Iran’s rocket rain will destroy all of Israel’s industry and economy within XNUMX hours and the take-off planes will have nowhere to land if they return ... This will be the first missile war fleeting and brutal. already will not reappear because Israel as a state will cease to exist and this will be a completely logical result of the folly that they consciously went to overestimate their strength and underestimate rotivnika.
    1. basal
      basal 18 August 2012 12: 58
      0
      Not only for itself, it seems, Iran is stamping rockets. Today on TV I saw the speech of the leader of Hezbollah, so he promises in plain text, in case of an attack on Iran, to bombard Jews with rockets. And not primitive Hassams, but guided missiles. If he doesn’t lie, then where are the Palestinians from? From Iran, of course.
      1. saturn.mmm
        saturn.mmm 20 August 2012 00: 00
        0
        Quote: basal
        And not primitive Hassams, but guided missiles. If he doesn’t lie, then where are the Palestinians from? From Iran, of course.

        Well, why is it from Iran, most likely from Libya. The Jews didn’t need the Arab spring in FIG, just like the war with Iran, but the United States needs to be supported during the election period, and this is a nuclear weapon as a horror story. If earlier the Arabs were divided, then most likely one pole of power will now be formed and this is not beneficial for Israel.
  7. Karabekir
    Karabekir 18 August 2012 09: 17
    +7
    ** The Jewish press writes that Netanyahu is afraid of himself and therefore scares others, but it seems that a policy of this rank is not easy to scare. No, he is not afraid: he accustoms fellow citizens to the idea of ​​a war with Iran. To losses, to blood, to the howling of sirens, to explosions, pain and death. ** - absolutely true statement !!
    In general, thank you Oleg didn’t read such a balanced analytics here for a long time !!
    Plus you +
    1. Pimply
      Pimply 18 August 2012 17: 43
      -2
      This opus is as far from balanced analytics as a donkey to the moon. The author does not understand the issue, and layers so many factual errors on his own conjectures that you only grab your head
  8. Vasily79
    Vasily79 18 August 2012 09: 20
    +5
    Artificially created states are historically doomed. I am against the fall of Israel. The issue of Zionism has been raised more than once in Russian history, and this is also limited by the resettlement of Jews in tsarist Russia (in my opinion, it’s not right to correct the line passing through central-western Ukraine). Stalin also resolved these issues, including one of the first to recognize and help the formation of Israel, and the provision of an autonomous region in Russia. With the fall of Israel, refugees around the world will start running around, Muslims (radicals) will find new enemies for themselves, it’s better to let it be slaughtered.
    1. Rumata
      Rumata 18 August 2012 13: 43
      +1
      After the colonial countries lost influence in their colonies, dozens of "artificial" states appeared ... Is Algeria doomed? And Australia?
  9. dojjdik
    dojjdik 18 August 2012 09: 33
    +2
    propaganda that the Israeli leadership (and not the people) have disagreements with the Jewish elite of the United States, nonsense for suckers; this country has a huge military base for NATO, with it the United States mainly carries out punitive raids against its Arabs to capture their oil; nitpicking to Ahmadinizhad (supposedly a nuclear program) is the desire to take away and appropriate the brownies (a Jew remembers 79g when Khomeini nationalized Iranian oil)
  10. lewerlin53rus
    lewerlin53rus 18 August 2012 09: 49
    +5
    Israel is a kind of valve through which Islamic radicalism "bleeds off steam." And if it were not for Israel, the Islamists would have found other areas of their activity. They are already very active in many areas. But Israel is now their main target
    1. Montefiore
      Montefiore 18 August 2012 14: 13
      +1
      The Islamists have long found directions. The Caucasus is the best example, from there they scattered around the cities of Russia, engaged in crime and real civil terrorism. Heated places like Tatarstan, but stubborn Russians are so sick with anti-Semitism that they continue to be friends with the enemies of the civilized and cultural world, just to spoil the United States.
      1. stariy
        stariy 18 August 2012 19: 47
        +1
        In the Caucasus, Tatarstan and throughout the world, the USA is being spoiled by the hands of radical Islamists
  11. Pashhenko Nikolay
    Pashhenko Nikolay 18 August 2012 09: 50
    +4
    I wonder why our concepts of patriot and anti-Semite are not separable? Israel is not hostile to us despite the fact that we are arming all of its enemies. But the Arab Saslans balamutut water in our Caucasus. So where is a friend? Where is the enemy? Can you intelligibly explain what does the state of Israel harm our Russia?
    1. ilf
      ilf 18 August 2012 11: 43
      0
      I absolutely agree with you !!!
    2. basal
      basal 18 August 2012 13: 14
      +1
      Well, the term "anti-Semite" is somehow not very correct to use, the Arabs are guilty of what, damned Semites? Or will we hate Jews and Arabs in a crowd?
      And so can you tell me if Israel was not arming Georgia? Good friendship! Say we arm all the enemies of Israel? Jordan, Egypt, Saudi Arabia ... Enough or continue? They are armed with the best friend of the Jews - the United States. We in the Arab world sell weapons only, in my opinion, to Syria and Algeria.
      So let's not interfere with a bunch of patriotism, anti-Semitism, telling tales about Russian-Israeli friendship. There is no such thing. There are smooth, calm relations between Russia and Israel, and we will limit ourselves to this.
      1. Rumata
        Rumata 18 August 2012 13: 41
        0
        Armed Georgia, it’s so loudly said ... Russia buys small batches of optics from France, FRANCE WEAPONS RUSSIA !!
      2. Pimply
        Pimply 18 August 2012 16: 53
        +1
        Yes, you know, to arm Georgia it is necessary to recall how the USSR and Russia armed ALL adversaries of Israel (and, in general, continues). And Israel ARMED (in the past tense) Georgia before the latter became the official enemy of Russia, right? And at the request of Russia, Georgia stopped arming. Do you remember these facts?
        1. basal
          basal 18 August 2012 22: 16
          0
          People, well, then change the mossy training manual. Somehow somehow.

          Is there a monument to Stalin in Tel Aviv? No? But in vain! The point is not that the creation of Israel is an initiative of the USSR. How long would Israel have existed if, in the first wave of repatriates, quite by accident, there weren’t many Jewish warriors who had gone through a terrible war in the Soviet Army? Or from Czechoslovakia there were no deliveries of weapons unclaimed by the Wehrmacht and Luftwaffe (due to their untimely death)? Not even Arabs, Britons, can you tell me who beat it so that their desire to continue fighting sharply disappeared?

          Well, these are the things of bygone days.
          Well, naive Israelis did not even know why they were arming Sakashvili. Such naive. You believe? Ok, believe it.

          Then tell us why Israel is silent about the revival of fascism in the Baltic states? Nothing to take from these revolutions, unlike the Germans? Your version?
          1. Insurgent
            Insurgent 18 August 2012 23: 02
            0
            In Israel, it is full of former dissidents who will be against the monument with all their might, all sorts of heifits, etc.
    3. Kshatriy
      Kshatriy 18 August 2012 14: 54
      -2
      Quote: Pashhenko Nikolay
      I wonder why our concepts of patriot and anti-Semite are not separable? Israel is not hostile to us despite the fact that we are arming all of its enemies. But the Arab Saslans balamutut water in our Caucasus. So where is a friend? Where is the enemy? Can you intelligibly explain what does the state of Israel harm our Russia?

      Dear ..., ISTORAI Israel has already ended - Russia is almost ready to receive almost one and a half million Jews ... definitely and without hesitation ...... all infrastructures will be ready by mid-autumn .... all consultations Government of the RF with Kagal --- successfully carried out .... everything is made Decision ..... relax and have fun .... we live in interesting times dear Lord !!!!!!!!
      1. Pimply
        Pimply 18 August 2012 15: 53
        +1
        Tell me, please. What ended the history of Israel. I want to listen to this wonderful fairy tale
        1. Kshatriy
          Kshatriy 18 August 2012 18: 25
          0
          Quote: Pimply
          What ended the history of Israel. I want to listen to this wonderful fairy tale

          At us, Russians, all fairy tales have a double bottom and allegory is not entirely clear to foreigners ..... It is unlikely that you will understand something in my fairy tale, and then why should I tell you about it ...?
          1. Pimply
            Pimply 18 August 2012 19: 04
            0
            Then do not insult the great Russian people with your stupidity. How do you know what I understand and what not. If the thought is clever - then I’m not a stupid person, I will somehow master it. And if the thought is stupid - then maybe you have the mind to justify it, it would be interesting to see.

            Stupidity, lack of one’s own thought and banal ignorance are so often given out as double bottom and allegorical. Prove to me that I'm wrong. I really, really ask you.
            1. Kshatriy
              Kshatriy 18 August 2012 20: 40
              0
              Nope, it’s you who prove that you are not a foreigner, and I’m not going to prove anything to you .....
              Quote: Pimply
              Stupidity, lack of one’s own thought and banal ignorance are so often given out as double bottom and allegorical. Prove to me that I'm wrong. I really, really ask you.

              This is why it is I, dear one, that you will make excuses for mine?
              1. Pimply
                Pimply 18 August 2012 21: 31
                +1
                What am I to prove? I am a Jew, my relatives are Russians, Ukrainians. Some of the ancestors were military noblemen, two grandfathers were career officers, and great-grandfather was a fireman.

                Why should you justify yourself? You can see the real level of education, and aplomb, and fear of "foreigners", and ignorance. You have no real, intelligible arguments - and you are afraid that someone is smarter, bolder, better than you. But you are not smart enough to reasonably defend your position. In fact, you do not have it. There is fear. Here you cling to it. All the best, my friend. Fear further.
                1. Kshatriy
                  Kshatriy 18 August 2012 23: 43
                  +1
                  Quote: Pimply
                  I am Jewish,

                  Quote: Pimply
                  Some of the ancestors were military nobles,

                  Amiable such a pearl proves such your impassable ignorance .... no words !!!!
                  Quote: Pimply
                  And what do you make excuses for?

                  And the truth, why should I make excuses for a Jew? Yes, and what ??
                  Quote: Pimply
                  real level of education,

                  Yeah, I really have a real level of education, but at the expense of you - I have doubts ..
                  Quote: Pimply
                  aplomb, and fear of "foreigners",

                  You yourself decide ... Do I have aplomb or fear before foreigners? At the same time to show both that and another .... it is probable only to such Superman as you are available ..
                  Quote: Pimply
                  You are afraid that someone is smarter, bolder, better than you.

                  The psychologist from you is useless ....., ahhh Are you probably a shaman-clairvoyant psychic?

                  Quote: Pimply
                  But you are not smart enough to defend your position reasonably.

                  This is what kind of position I should protect from the great-grandson of a firewall ....

                  Quote: Pimply
                  All the best, my friend

                  But I should not be rude ... you are not afraid of ours .... When you want to get worn out by your ancestors, choose the right place ..., a descendant of the "military nobility" .... (I will stick this pearl to you always and constantly). ..... so that it’s you, my friend, you’re completely ignorant ...
                  1. Pimply
                    Pimply 18 August 2012 23: 50
                    0
                    Is a fool a disease or not? It would be good if it were a disease: there would be a hope for healing.

                    My ancestors fought for Russia. I also spent time in the army not in vain. What did you do? Shit on forums under the flag of the defender of the humiliated and offended? 8) Do not make laugh
                    1. Kshatriy
                      Kshatriy 19 August 2012 08: 53
                      +1
                      Quote: Pimply
                      Is a fool a disease or not?

                      The dearest descendant of the "military nobility" ... yes, we started with the fact that you, as a foreigner, cannot understand Russian fairy tales !!! Yes, I am a Russian Ivan the Fool and all my roads are crooked ... (due to your genealogy, you cannot understand the sacred meaning
                      of our Russian language ...... read Russian epic .. your mind can be enlightened)
                      You have proven that speaking Russian and understanding the Russian language are different things!
                      Quote: Pimply
                      My ancestors fought for Russia

                      If you are a Jew, then a priori, your ancestors could not serve in the army of the Russian Empire ..... they were not called there .... during the reign of Kerensky it is true that your ancestors could decompose the victorious Russian army! If they were on soldiers' committees ... But let's omit that period, because it's hard to call the country of the "provisional government" Russia ...
                      Russia --- is lined with the bones of my ancestors and is abundantly watered with the blood of my ancestors !!!! Thank God Rod !!!!!!!! Unlike you, I am not going to brag about my origin .... I don’t have beads in front of you throw ...
                      Quote: Pimply
                      I also spent time in the army for good reason

                      If you fought for the USSR, please write in a personal ... I will answer you inwardly ... with the number of the military unit please ...
                      Quote: Pimply
                      What did you do?

                      I asked you - don’t you be rude, please ..., but it seems that the words do not reach you .... Then why are you trying to prove the noble origin of your kind?
                      Quote: Pimply
                      What did you do? Shit on forums under the flag of the defender of the humiliated and offended?

                      In 1977, the existence of the Internet ... yeah ... if anyone said .... a psychiatric hospital with a steep diagnosis .... it is unlikely that you at that time were not wasting time in the army .....
                      Quote: Pimply
                      Do not make me laugh

                      That's for sure ..... Jews always make good buffoons ... I laughed at you from the heart .. although I got a couple of warnings from the admin ..... what a nobility it was - a denunciation !!!!
                      1. igor67
                        igor67 19 August 2012 09: 06
                        +1
                        Quote: Kshatriya
                        -your ancestors could not serve in the army of the Russian Empire ..... they were not called there

                        I don’t know, I don’t argue, my Jewish great-grandfather was a sergeant major in the tsarist army, we had a picture of him in uniform. But I don’t know how he got a volunteer or all the same.
                      2. Kshatriy
                        Kshatriy 19 August 2012 09: 12
                        0
                        Quote: igor67
                        I don’t know, I can’t assert, my Jewish great-grandfather was a sergeant major in the tsarist army, we had a picture of him in uniform, but I don’t know how he volunteered or didn’t call.

                        Hello Igor! Correctly, your grandfather could very easily be a Feldfebel especially during the First World War ..... but you do not assert on this basis your noble origin, unlike pimply?
                      3. igor67
                        igor67 19 August 2012 09: 20
                        0
                        Kshatriy,
                        Yes, indeed, in World War I, well, my great-grandfather was not a nobleman by any means, he lived in a village, I don’t take responsibility for others with the geneology of the pimply family, but is it true in a friend?
                      4. Kshatriy
                        Kshatriy 19 August 2012 09: 57
                        0
                        Quote: igor67
                        Yes, indeed, in World War I, well, my great-grandfather was not a nobleman by any means, he lived in a village, I don’t take responsibility for others with the geneology of the pimply family, but is it true in a friend?

                        I pay tribute to your Grandfather from the bottom of my heart --- the fastest he went to fight as a Patriotic volunteer! Why, then, the pimply beats himself in the chest and shouts that he is a "purebred" Jew? ... Yes, and okay, I'm tired of picketing with him, they put the whole branch of the mutual sack above the roof ...-))
                      5. Insurgent
                        Insurgent 20 August 2012 22: 38
                        0
                        In general, Jews were forcibly taken to the tsarist army by the Kontanists, and Okudzhava's father was a cantonist
                      6. Pimply
                        Pimply 19 August 2012 14: 54
                        +1
                        Oh, silly. Did I claim that the military nobility is mine in the Jewish line? Not. I clearly indicated to you that there are Russians and Ukrainians in the family. On this line, they have, since 1657 of the year, had quite an official paper recorded in the state archive.

                        Your hysteria, cries about foreigners who are not able to understand "Russian fairy tales" call out nothing more than disgust. You are simply stupid. And to the question, what did you do - you could not answer 8)

                        As for the service in the Russian army, shame, you should have taught history.

                        Until 1827, military service was replaced by a tax for the Jews of Russia; from 1827, Jews began to be drafted into the army for the 25-year active service. Out of every thousand Jewish men, ten people were recruited annually (for Christians, seven out of a thousand in a year); The age of recruits ranged from 12 to 25 years, children were forcibly taken from their parents. Recruits under the age of 18 were sent to special cantonist schools. Jewish soldiers were forced to convert to Christianity; in the army they were subjected to bullying and numerous restrictions. Virtually unbaptized Jews could only be rank-and-file in the army, and non-commissioned officers were allowed to produce especially distinguished ones (since 1850 - only with the consent of the emperor for each specific case). The decree of 1829 forbade “from now on to a special command” to take Jews into orderlies; Decree 10 February 1844 g. - Appoint Jews in non-combatant companies and units that were part of the troops of the Guards Corps. The motivation for introducing various restrictions was given in a decree that prohibited Jews from being quarantined (1837): “bad morality” should not be allowed to such a service, therefore, “lower ranks from Jews should not serve in it.”

                        Thousands of Jews fought in the Russian army during the Crimean War (1854 – 56), when recruitment among Jews was carried out twice a year and took 30 recruits from one thousand males. Around 500 Jewish soldiers died during the defense of Sevastopol. Jewish doctors, for example, L. Pinsker, served in the Russian army.


                        The situation changed during the reign of Alexander II (1855 – 81). On August 26 on August 1856, a decree was issued ordering that "recruits from Jews be charged on an equal basis with other conditions ... The same years and qualities that were determined for recruits of other states ... the recruitment of juvenile Jews should be canceled." In 1856, the abolition of schools and battalions of military cantonists was announced. The decree of 1858 permitted the rewarding of Jewish soldiers with the same orders as Muslims. In 1859, Jewish soldiers serving 15 years were granted the right to indefinite leave; in 1861, Jews were allowed to be promoted to non-commissioned officer on a common basis. In 1867, the right to reside throughout the country was granted to Jews who had served in the army for full terms in recruitment kits, and their family members; this right was granted also to descendants of the Nikolaev soldiers.
                      7. Kshatriy
                        Kshatriy 19 August 2012 15: 02
                        0
                        Quote: Pimply
                        Oh, silly

                        dear, I didn’t drink with you for brotherhood, so that you would talk to me in such a familiar way .... in a conversation you only hear yourself ... read and learn to understand what you read ..... about your "military nobility" sit and keep quiet, you just SMASHON !!!!
                      8. Pimply
                        Pimply 19 August 2012 15: 20
                        0
                        Stupid, when you start talking as an adult, then they will be with you as an adult. Go play in the 8 sandbox). Or read a book.

                        http://goldarms.narod.ru/kherson.htm
                        See the list? One of the names is my ancestors. Try to find 8)
                      9. Kshatriy
                        Kshatriy 19 August 2012 15: 42
                        0
                        Quote: Pimply
                        Stupid, when you start talking as an adult, then they will be with you as an adult.

                        In your case, as an adult - it is to insult and call names - sorry I can not !!!!!!!
                        Quote: Pimply
                        http://goldarms.narod.ru/kherson.htm
                        See the list? One of the names is my ancestors. Try to find

                        Quote: Pimply
                        http://goldarms.narod.ru/kherson.htm
                        See the list? One of the names is my ancestors. Try to find 8)

                        I am NOT interested in your pedigree --- the Jewish "military nobility" of the Russian Empire does not exist ... all of you are not even interesting to me, even as a yap --- splash saliva somewhere in the other direction ...
                      10. Pimply
                        Pimply 19 August 2012 15: 52
                        0
                        Jewish - exists. True, from the crosses. But this is not for me, for me, a fool who has forgotten how to read it, goes along a different line, along the Russian-Ukrainian 8)

                        You fool, understand. Until you stop splashing saliva, putting on a bunch of exclamation marks, expressing other people's, not your own thoughts, and also - using the words "Jew" and "Jew" everywhere - you are not an adult. You are a young silly fool, no matter how old you are. Go play in the sandbox 8)
                  2. Pimply
                    Pimply 19 August 2012 00: 09
                    0
                    However, interrupt. Forgive me if I offended - I think this is still somewhat beyond the scope of our dispute. Have a nice day.
                    1. Kshatriy
                      Kshatriy 19 August 2012 09: 01
                      0
                      Quote: Pimply
                      Forgive me if I offended - I think this is still somewhat beyond the scope of our dispute.

                      How noble it is on your part! First, to offend, and then ask for forgiveness ..... Do not flatter yourself, my dear - the reasons for which you are not able to offend me I have cited above ... Good luck in your hopeless business ......
        2. Odessa
          Odessa 18 August 2012 21: 00
          0
          Pimply,
          What ended the history of Israel. I want to listen to this wonderful fairy tale

          It turns out that all of Israel lives in a wonderful fairy tale? The farther the worse. The history of Israel is unlikely to end, you yourself lived here, and you know what the Middle East is, you just need to constantly thicken the colors? It's really relatively calm here.
          And yet, you should not blame the author that something is written wrong. The publication shows the sources from which the material was taken. Article +, I still read it with interest!
        3. Odessa
          Odessa 18 August 2012 21: 07
          0
          Pimply,
          Pimply,
          What ended the history of Israel. I want to listen to this wonderful fairy tale

          It turns out that all of Israel lives in a wonderful fairy tale? The farther the worse. The history of Israel is unlikely to end, you yourself lived here, and you know what the Middle East is, you just need to constantly thicken the colors? It's really relatively calm here.
          And yet, you should not blame the author that something is written wrong. The publication shows the sources from which the material was taken. Article +, I still read it with interest!
          And this is for Ruslan, why does someone think that he is better than the Israelis? Watch the video, we are all people, what's the problem?
          1. Pimply
            Pimply 18 August 2012 21: 36
            0
            You see, Odessa. I myself am a journalist, and worked in several large Russian-language Israeli media. Zahav.ru, IzRus, etc. And I know how easy it is to take the facts you need, suitable ones - and dismiss the rest. 8)

            The question is not only in the sources. The question is understanding the situation. If a person writes an article using sources, but does not understand the situation, or, even worse, manipulates the reader in his own interests, the author is worthless. The appearance of good analytics is not good analytics.
            1. Insurgent
              Insurgent 18 August 2012 22: 42
              +1
              Then tell me why the anti-Russian and anti-Belarus articles in the same zman com, why the koment that does not coincide with the moderator, do you still consider yourself democrats or censorship in Israel?
              1. Pimply
                Pimply 18 August 2012 23: 58
                0
                Coming into a strange house - put shoes in the corner 8) Moderation is on all resources.

                I have already outlined my opinion about Zman.com; I don’t see any reason to do it again.
            2. igor67
              igor67 19 August 2012 07: 23
              +2
              Pimply,
              I read to the place where the Ethiopians will return to Africa back, all morality, the author might first ask those Falas if they want to go back to Ethiopia, and Romanov is right who will not let anyone destroy Israel or Russia, the eternal military conflict, billions of income from the sale of weapons, and everything else is chatter for ordinary people
              1. Pimply
                Pimply 19 August 2012 15: 32
                +1
                Well, if Israel only hoped for someone other than itself ...
            3. v53993
              v53993 19 August 2012 07: 46
              +1
              The more journalists I observe you, the more I become convinced that you, for the most part, are representatives of the first ancient profession.
              1. Pimply
                Pimply 19 August 2012 15: 31
                0
                Then do not read us 8) Does someone force you?
            4. DimYang
              DimYang 20 August 2012 10: 39
              +1
              Quote: Pimply
              And I know how easy it is to take the facts you need, suitable ones - and dismiss the rest.

              He himself admitted.
  12. Serg_Y
    Serg_Y 18 August 2012 10: 00
    0
    And why will our S-400s not be sold to them, or is it not kosher for them?
    1. Insurgent
      Insurgent 18 August 2012 23: 00
      -1
      They in Russia like a cat cried
    2. Pimply
      Pimply 19 August 2012 15: 30
      0
      Israel has its own, quite effective missile defense.

      http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arrow_(%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%BA%D0%B5%D1%82%D0%B0)

      The third version is now being finalized.
  13. Isr
    Isr 18 August 2012 10: 48
    +1
    "UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon condemned the threats against Israel, which were voiced yesterday by Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and a number of senior Iranian army officers.
    This was due to the fact that yesterday Ahmadinejad once again called Israel “Cancerous tumor” on the body of mankind and promised that it would soon be eliminated. In this regard, Ban Ki-moon reminded Ahmadinejad that Iran is a member of the UN and that no state - a member of the UN - has the right to threaten another state with destruction.
    Recall that Israel and the United States are still putting pressure on Ban Ki-moon in order to persuade him to refuse to travel to Tehran for an international conference of unrecognized states. "Zman.com
    1. lewerlin53rus
      lewerlin53rus 18 August 2012 11: 01
      +3
      Quote: Isr
      Iran is a member of the UN, and that no state - a member of the UN - has the right to threaten another state with destruction.

      But what about the fact that Israel, in turn, has already planned the war with Iran almost every minute and is threatening it with bombing
      1. Montefiore
        Montefiore 18 August 2012 14: 07
        0
        What about the fact that the bombing plans are an answer to the ongoing threats and arming of terrorist gangs? If you are constantly brazenly threatening someone with reprisal, then always be ready for a preventive strike, in the form of a fist on the scoreboard.
        1. Kshatriy
          Kshatriy 18 August 2012 15: 03
          +1
          Quote: Montefiore
          What about the fact that the bombing plans are an answer to the ongoing threats and arming of terrorist gangs?

          And why is it, based on your unbending "logic", Russia has not yet turned the small but proud "Georgia-Georgia" into a lifeless desert ... Or there are no bases of rabid terrorists fed by your compatriots and drinking like filthy ghouls, BLOOD of the Russian people ??
          Who the freaks will forgive you for the bombings in the Moscow metro ... This Russian government is ready to accept one and a half lyama of Jewish refugees, and you can drive out before the Great Russian people ????
  14. Darck
    Darck 18 August 2012 11: 01
    +1
    Analyst Hussein al-Berbery from the American newspaper Watan, who studied the research data, concludes
    I won’t read further thanks, I know what conclusions this TRUE American analyst will draw. wassat
  15. andrei332809
    andrei332809 18 August 2012 11: 26
    +1
    Israel did not behave correctly from the very beginning of education. Instead of being grateful to the USSR and to Stalin personally, they ran for money (the blood craving for usury had an effect). Now the owners in London began to support them financially and in a military plan. run to the Britons and there will be new israel
  16. ilf
    ilf 18 August 2012 11: 27
    0
    Israel, this is my opinion, throughout its existence, waged numerous wars with aggressively surrounded Arab countries, a number of exemplary victories can be distinguished; they are shorter than they know how to fight, Israel immediately associates in the head with the "Mossad", "Merkava" drones, etc., and this makes a small country not rich useful fossils, developed science, even send satellites into space, developed industry and agriculture, our country has more economic trade and military ties (UAVs, stuffing for sights, etc.), and many can be found who speak Russian because. many citizens from the former USSR, we go there to have a rest at resorts, but in man such is the essence of the war of war, if not for the war in humanity you know what would lead to on Earth, but the strongest, the spirit, unity, the survival of the people wins!
  17. Serg_Y
    Serg_Y 18 August 2012 11: 59
    0
    How this Israel and the Arabs, with their showdowns, got sick of it, would take a club and reconcile everyone.
    1. Dimon
      Dimon 18 August 2012 13: 29
      -1
      Quote: Serg_Y
      , take a club and make peace.

      Well, take a chance, just look that your "peacekeeping" club is not broken against your head :)))) peacekeepers .....
      1. Kshatriy
        Kshatriy 18 August 2012 15: 08
        0
        Quote: Dimon
        Well, take a chance, just look that your "peacekeeping" club is not broken against your head :)))) peacekeepers .....

        Are you personally or together with your older brother -Ping-dos-tan going to bash our head ??? Who freaks you to forgive the explosions in the Moscow metro ... This Russian government is ready to accept one and a half lemma of Jewish refugees, and you can bend in front of the Great Russian people ???? (but we might not accept the "second outcome" ...
      2. Insurgent
        Insurgent 18 August 2012 16: 21
        +1
        This is on what side will it be reconciled with the Arab or Jewish?
      3. Kshatriy
        Kshatriy 18 August 2012 18: 35
        0
        Quote: Dimon
        just be careful not to break your "peacekeeping" club against your head :))))

        You will be kind enough to personally break a club around our head or a duet with your friends on a pin-dos tan kagal? ..... how amicably your entire Jewish company came running, like a whistle !!!! Here are just your arguments, except for a dumb minus and complaints to the admin ----- NO !!!! Okay - LIVE, you LIVE !!!
      4. Kshatriy
        Kshatriy 18 August 2012 21: 50
        0
        Quote: Dimon
        Well, take a chance, just see that your "peacekeeping" club is not broken against your head:

        Amiable cudgel about our heads, will you personally begin to break it? Or together with fights from Fashington? .... Tired of your cheap shtetl mud and stink .....
    2. SlavaP
      SlavaP 18 August 2012 18: 05
      +4
      Dear, why so much effort - just one click of the mouse. Let America stop financing Israel ($$$ - ???) and Europe - Palestinians (about a billion euros per year) and they all make peace right away
      1. Ruslan
        Ruslan 18 August 2012 18: 08
        +1
        Quote: SlavaP
        Dear, why so much effort - just one click of the mouse. Let America stop financing Israel ($$$ - ???) and Europe - Palestinians (about a billion euros per year) and they all make peace right away
        And then what will the Jewish mafia, headed by the Rodschilds, earn?
        1. Pimply
          Pimply 18 August 2012 18: 56
          -1
          Oh Gd. Do you still have the Rothschilds - the main power of the world?
      2. Pimply
        Pimply 18 August 2012 18: 56
        +1
        Israel is funded by Camp David, just like Egypt, in the amount of 3 billion dollars a year. This is compensation for voluntary care from Sinai. Under the Oslo Accords, Israel finances the Palestinians, transferring to them annually about half of their budget. Then it is necessary to prohibit all 8)) And there, and there, and there 8)))
        1. Insurgent
          Insurgent 18 August 2012 22: 45
          0
          The Izril budget of 20% is financed by America, and do not equal to the fact that Egypt has 10 times more population there and a territory of 50 times
          1. Rumata
            Rumata 18 August 2012 22: 56
            -1
            120% !! How can you demonstrate your ignorance like this, for all, because the percentage of the Israeli budget that the United States gives can be found in 3 minutes. Or count on a calculator
          2. Pimply
            Pimply 19 August 2012 00: 17
            +1
            Oh, I think, for all 150%. Even on 155.7. 8)

            Native, tell me about 20%. Well, for example, the example of the latest Israeli budget. Desirable, with links from the original 8)
            1. Insurgent
              Insurgent 19 August 2012 20: 03
              0
              And how Israel can exist at the expense of your taxes. Israel has a separate article in the American budget, if it weren’t for American help, one f-16 would pull 60 million and you know how much ammunition costs
              1. Rumata
                Rumata 19 August 2012 20: 38
                +3
                Oh my god, is it hard to spend at least a little time studying the issue? Israel's GDP per capita is twice as high as that of Russia (29 against 000), inflation is 15 against 900, if Russia does not live off others, then Israel is even more so.
                Israel’s budget is about $ 90 billion, US assistance is 2.9, that is, the US gives Israel as much as 3% of the budget, we won’t survive without them ...
                How enrages me when they write outright delirium with a smart look. without even trying to google at least 3 minutes ...
                On here
                http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%98%D0%BD%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BA%D1%81_%D0%BA%D0%B0%D
                1%87%D0%B5%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B2%D0%B0_%D0%B6%D0%B8%D0%B7%D0%BD%D0%B8
                search between Botswana and Nigeria
                1. Ruslan
                  Ruslan 19 August 2012 22: 39
                  0
                  Quote: Rumata
                  Oh my god, is it hard to spend at least a little time studying the issue? Israel's GDP per capita is twice as high as that of Russia (29 against 000), inflation is 15 against 900, if Russia does not live off others, then Israel is even more so.
                  Israel’s budget is about $ 90 billion, US assistance is 2.9, that is, the US gives Israel as much as 3% of the budget, we won’t survive without them ...
                  Do not forget to add that the main holders of the Fed’s shares are Jewish family mafia, headed by the Rodchilds, and they print a denyuyu for themselves from the air and for this they get real goods and services
  18. Oleg Rosskiyy
    Oleg Rosskiyy 18 August 2012 12: 50
    0
    With the current politics at the moment, Israel is doomed, not one country in the world has received long-term benefits for itself, fulfilling instructions from its owners, you need to live your own mind and try to establish normal relations primarily with your neighbors, this example Israel from the USA could not to adopt.
  19. basal
    basal 18 August 2012 13: 21
    0
    About 15 years ago, a family of acquaintances of my relatives emigrated to Israel. Already there were such ardent Zionists - everything is bad in Russia, and there the promised land is.
    Now they are going to make legs out of Israel. They want to live in the European Union. That's just bad luck. They wanted to buy property in the Czech Republic or Bulgaria, but they don’t sell property there to Israeli Jews. I had to go to Estonia ...

    Honestly, for what I bought, for that I sold it. If anyone knows more what the Jews have problems with Czechs and Bulgarians, can you clarify?
    1. Rumata
      Rumata 18 August 2012 13: 39
      0
      And my acquaintances in Russia drank too much, the husband died, the unemployed wife took the children to an orphanage. And what conclusions can be drawn from this? Does everyone in Russia plump? And what conclusions can be drawn from what you wrote? Everybody in Israel wants to blame?
      1. basal
        basal 18 August 2012 14: 06
        0
        Well, firstly, we are not friends to communicate with you. Secondly, I asked a question, if there are people who know the topic, if not, it is better to remain silent and not put your squalor on public display. I live in Russia. I feel good and comfortable here, despite all our many problems. I do not care what happens in Israel or the European Union. Just ordinary human curiosity. And Israel, if there is not a lot of money, the country is very ugly for living. I had to communicate with the Jews who returned to Russia. Is something wrong again? Tell us about the Israeli paradise, I read with interest.
        1. Rumata
          Rumata 18 August 2012 14: 19
          0
          DO YOU write this not to tell the story of your acquaintances, does it probably carry some kind of semantic load or do I misunderstand something? I probably now can safely talk about the horrors that are happening, for example, in Russia it does not matter whether or not it is a topic.
          Israel is not a paradise, but not everything is so bad. Among all my friends, 2 families left, one child got into trouble and they decided to save him from a bad company after leaving for Canada, the other loafers sat on benefits for years, didn’t really get a job, they didn’t even buy a car in 10 years, they took a loan in the bank and dumped in the Far East to my mother ...
          1. basal
            basal 18 August 2012 16: 32
            0
            Well, politeness is clearly not Jewish virtue. Although why? All my acquaintances are Jews quite adequate and well-mannered. Could rudeness be a sign of an Israeli Jew? An inferiority complex drowned out by rudeness? Immigrants from Russia, as I was told, in Israel are not even second-class people, but fourth-fifth, after natives, immigrants from Europe, Moroccans, etc. Am I wrong again?
            1. Rumata
              Rumata 18 August 2012 16: 44
              0
              That is, I am not polite because I communicate with you, and you are polite, despite the fact that in three lines he called me an ill-bred boor with an inferiority complex and a fourth-grade person, and a little higher I was also called miserable. Keep it up, you bring a lot of useful construct to this discussion, solid useful information without a drop of emotion and bathhert
              1. basal
                basal 18 August 2012 18: 22
                +1
                I will explain. In the Russian language, which you speak so well, it is customary to contact strangers with you. It is a pity that this is unknown to you. I did not call you an uneducated boor with an inferiority complex and a man of the fourth grade, but simply made an assumption where such bad manners came from. I could be wrong, but you did nothing to refute it. Well, you can continue in the same spirit. I don’t mind that when you ask an innocent enough question: "Is it really true that they do not sell real estate to Israeli Jews in the Czech Republic and Bulgaria?", They immediately wrote me down as anti-Semites, enemies of Jewry, in general, and Israel in particular, in particular?
                You know, I don’t care, but here you personify the main problem of Israel - the ability to make enemies from scratch.
                Although someone said that you have at least something to do with Israel and the Jews. A banal provocateur, but I seduced ...
                1. Pimply
                  Pimply 18 August 2012 19: 08
                  -2
                  It is possible so, it is possible otherwise. Trolling is bad, dear.
                  1. basal
                    basal 18 August 2012 20: 24
                    +1
                    Kindly explain what you mean. I understand that this is another incarnation of Rumat, only laconic? Do you work as a team?
                    1. Pimply
                      Pimply 18 August 2012 21: 31
                      +1
                      And paranoia is also not the best option.
                    2. Insurgent
                      Insurgent 18 August 2012 22: 47
                      0
                      Proffesor forgotten or is it his team)))
        2. Aaron Zawi
          Aaron Zawi 19 August 2012 16: 05
          +2
          Well, not without flaws, of course. Yes, and economic and social problems are more than enough. The state is young, not rich, what can you do. But something has been achieved, for example, in providing medical services to the population.
          Economic News Agency Bloomberg published the ranking of the healthiest countries in the world, in which Israel took the 6-th position out of the 145 possible. The rating includes states with a population of at least a million people.
          The rating was based on life expectancy, infant mortality rate, analysis of the causes of mortality (not including injuries associated with hostilities), the proportion of smokers, the level of alcohol consumption per capita, the number of HIV-infected people, the proportion of obese people, the number of people with high blood pressure or sugar level etc.
          Singapore is recognized as the healthiest country in the world, scoring 89,45 points with 3,07 penalty points for health problems.
          Italy came in second place with a score of 89,07 points with 5,54 penalty points. Third place - in Australia (88,33 and 4,86 points, respectively). Also in the top five are Switzerland and Japan. Israel scored 85,97 points with 6 penalty points. Following are Spain, the Netherlands, Sweden and the closing TOP-10 Germany.
          France took the 13 line, Canada - the 14 line, Norway - the 18 line, Great Britain - the 32 line, the UAE and Kuwait - the 30 line and the 31 line. The USA with 66,84 points and 6,12 penalty points takes only 33 position, only slightly ahead of Bosnia and Herzegovina. Iran is on the 76 line, Belarus is on the 91 line, Russia is on the 97 line, Ukraine is on the 99 line.
          Closing the list are the poorest countries in Africa - Mozambique, Chad, DR Congo, Lesotho and Swaziland.
          1. basal
            basal 19 August 2012 18: 40
            0
            Aron! Do you seriously believe bloombergs?

            By the way, in relation to Canada I will support, my friends live there. Health care really works great. True and frantic taxes, but what's true is true. We in Russia should be envied for now. An ambulance arrives in Toronto after 5-10 minutes, and even accompanied by firefighters (if the patient needs to be taken out). Well done Canadians, I see nothing wrong with learning!
            1. Aaron Zawi
              Aaron Zawi 19 August 2012 20: 08
              +1
              Well, yes. With all the shortcomings of our medicine, it is at a decent level. When my 80 father, after a grave stroke during 4 months, was dragged from the other world and not only pulled out, but also restored his legal capacity by 80%, I personally believed in Israeli medicine.
  20. Rumata
    Rumata 18 August 2012 13: 32
    0
    It’s very sad that for some year, the site has slipped into a garbage can, where interesting articles are less and less common, but such graphomaniac squalor, which exposes Israel, the USA or Europe in a bad light, immediately gain hundreds of comments from xenophobes who settled here.
    If earlier such an article would have caused an interesting debate among those who agree and those who do not, with arguments and adequate comments, now there is one nonsense that causes cognitive dissonance ...
    For some time the site could compete with the "flagships" of the Russian Internet in this area, but now everything has slipped into a cozy corner of anti-Semites, URA-patriots and other evil spirits. Such as the wolf or Odin, on self-respecting resources, would have been drummed long ago, but here they live and prosper.
    I’ve been reading the site for more than a year, but recently, comments here have crossed all normal boundaries ...
    1. Oleg Rosskiyy
      Oleg Rosskiyy 18 August 2012 13: 47
      +1
      Quote: Rumata
      I’ve been reading the site for more than a year, but recently, comments here have crossed all normal boundaries ...

      This is what the entire Western world consists in, namely, the inadmissibility of criticism against you - the most "intelligent, just and peace-loving", but only reality says otherwise.
      1. Rumata
        Rumata 18 August 2012 13: 56
        +2
        What does it have to do with it? An article is profane, I could prove it with ordinary quotes that are not taken out of context, BUT when 80% of the comments are full of hatred for the Jews and the state of Israel, I not only lose the desire to argue and prove something to someone, my desire to visit this site.
        There is no criticism, only hatred. Interesting to read criticism, no xenophobic comments
        1. Rumata
          Rumata 18 August 2012 14: 12
          0
          For example, this newspaper also if you know Arabic read the headlines http://www.watan.com/
          This "analyst" of an American newspaper himself lives in Bahrain, and the funniest thing is that a link to an article on an international forum where the same "Vatan" is cited, the original results are not provided ...
          About Benny Morris, I generally keep quiet, a well-known person, wrote not that.
          1. Karabekir
            Karabekir 18 August 2012 14: 38
            +1
            Rumata!
            Let's calm down first!
            I didn’t pay attention to what you describe and honestly didn’t read it! Since the news is old, here and in other publications I have read more than once about the * analytical * conclusions of this Arab!
            You in this article only these moments were interesting ??
            And honestly, I would not blame Oleg, because the person used those sources that are and was extremely careful!
            1. Rumata
              Rumata 18 August 2012 15: 00
              0
              Not only that, the article has a lot of inaccuracies. For example, the appointment to China was approved 2 years ago, and this position is very attractive for the politician due to the large number of potential Sino-Israeli enterprises. for example, the project of the railway from Eilat to Tel Aviv, which will allow transporting goods bypassing the Suez Canal, and Eilat will become a transshipment port for Chinese goods to Europe. This project has already been launched, there are dozens in turn, most of them are related to high-tech cooperation, where China is behind and Israel has a lot to offer.
              All the conclusions of the "Israeli press" do not even need to be read, in our press you can find any conclusions, that's why it is the press.
              About gas masks, bomb shelters and Israel’s readiness for war, it is also written on the basis of subjective opinion. As a reservist spending 30 days a year in the army, I think that it is better prepared than 5 years ago, only 60% have gas masks not only because there is no money , and also because they need to come and take or order by mail. In addition, judging by the poor state of affairs in Israel on the basis of the fact that only 60% of the population have gas masks and only 70% of underground can be equipped with air filtration systems and can accommodate total 87% of the country's population, then the rest of the world have very big problems
              1. Karabekir
                Karabekir 18 August 2012 15: 55
                +2
                Quote: Rumata
                For example, an appointment to China was approved 2 years ago,

                Dear author, you may not know about these things!
                I don’t think he intentionally distorted the news!
                I think it is necessary to help the author!
                Indicate links, otherwise it's all empty talk !!
                1. Rumata
                  Rumata 18 August 2012 16: 09
                  +2
                  Well, you need to decide if the author is writing a serious article, then he should be able to confirm the facts with links to the primary sources, but it’s better to do it right in the article. Why on earth should I help the author dash off a base article on his knee on the way to work ... In addition, I unsubscribed here, not because of the article, but because of the comments and their moderation.
                  1. Karabekir
                    Karabekir 18 August 2012 18: 49
                    -1
                    I’m saying Rumata your accusations with a little poke now simply unfounded without links !!
                    And the fact that Oleg gave, I also read it from other authors, that is, I am sure of his links !!
                    This is not your thing!
                    1. Pimply
                      Pimply 18 August 2012 19: 12
                      0
                      I read the original articles.

                      I gave an example below - at least with the ambassador to Beijing, Matan Vilnai.
                    2. Rumata
                      Rumata 18 August 2012 19: 27
                      0
                      This is a snippet of articles from various Internet publications and opinions of "analysts", with what links can I refute this? Give you links to articles in the Israeli press that the rear is ready for war and thereby refute the phrase that the Jewish press is convinced of the opposite? Here you need to write a whole article, and refute everything with facts, point by point, but since, unfortunately, the opinion of the Israelis is interesting only to you, I will not deal with this.
                      Z.Y
                      I would also like to note that phrases such as "Jews do not consider the government the embodiment of democracy" or "in the opinion of the" Jewish press "suggests that the author is at least not serious. When discussing the problems of the State of Israel, one should speak about the opinion of Israelis, the Israeli press and about the Israeli economy, only for those who are not at all "in the subject" Jews and Israelis are one and the same ...
                2. Pimply
                  Pimply 18 August 2012 16: 20
                  +1
                  If a respected author writes an article and touches on topics, he, sorry, should know the background of the question - simply because he has the courage to write about it. If he understands the issue poorly - what the hell is he writing about him?
                  1. Karabekir
                    Karabekir 18 August 2012 18: 50
                    0
                    Pimpled, and why should his knowledge completely coincide with your subjective opinion ???
                    He writes from those sources that are published here and it seems to be clearly visible!
                    So I completely trust you, but let's refute it, but not so much that I said Pupyrchaty, it's true !!
                    Show us that you are in the subject more than the author and help him with the links!
                    1. Pimply
                      Pimply 18 August 2012 19: 17
                      0
                      No, dear.

                      You see, there is knowledge - but there is nonsense. Will you consider the yellow press as knowledge? Say, compared with scientific work? The value of this knowledge is an order of magnitude different, don’t find it. One is serious research, work with sources, real knowledge. Another is the escalation of hysteria and scandal.

                      I am more in the subject than the author. If only because he lived in Israel for a long time, worked as a journalist, worked on political issues, worked for the former political adviser Netanyah (litter, with two - one in common, the other for relations with the Russian-language press), interviewed several prime ministers (from Olmert and Bibi, for example) and ministers, I am familiar with many deputies and political figures, and I read the materials in the Original.
                      1. v53993
                        v53993 19 August 2012 07: 56
                        -1
                        As a representative of the first ancient profession, are you still proud that you worked with such dirt as politicians (they themselves recognize this)?
                        Then the conclusion is that you are dirty just ... ka
                      2. Pimply
                        Pimply 19 August 2012 15: 26
                        0
                        Do you think they insulted me and I’ll start sprinkling saliva here? Not at all. I do not take offense at stupidity.

                        If you are so hated by dirty politicians - become an honest politician. I will only be glad. Just get smart first - that would be nice 8 too)
                    2. basal
                      basal 18 August 2012 21: 33
                      -1
                      Dear Karabekir!

                      Yes, do not get fooled by Pupyrchatyh and Rumat. It can be seen that the guys are working out money. See for yourself - Herr Pupyrchaty with Olmert and Bibi is practically at you. Are you and Bibi not on you by chance? laughing They have nothing to say, but denyushka need to be worked out. I, too, at first, was seduced, I thought I would learn something new ... No fate is visible.
                      1. Pimply
                        Pimply 18 August 2012 22: 07
                        +1
                        When there is nothing to say stupidity, she begins to turn around basal, try to invent something, belittle the opponent. It is much easier to say that the opponent is paid than to admit that he is wrong. It’s hard to think, dear, it’s much easier to mock. This is what you do.

                        With Bibi, I am at you simply because in Hebrew this is a traditional treatment. I talked with Olmert when he was his prime minister, in the year 2008, twice, at meetings with the Russian-language press in Israel. Netanyahu was interviewed once by telephone, and once at a press conference at Likud's headquarters. I also interviewed Livni, I know Lieberman and several other politicians. By virtue of his profession, he is a political journalist. But to you, my dear, do you have anything to say?
                      2. basal
                        basal 19 August 2012 19: 05
                        0
                        Stupidity will try not to dodge))).

                        With Bibi, here you got me. I do not know Hebrew.

                        But if you really own the issue, then let us know about the life of Israel. So I asked the question "Why are Israeli Jews not being sold real estate in the Czech Republic and Bulgaria?" Well, answer, maybe this is complete nonsense, but you interviewed Netanyahu, apparently you know a lot. Or maybe you dreamed of Livni and Lieberman in a dream?

                        Pimpy, don’t languish, it’s interesting ...
                      3. Yarbay
                        Yarbay 19 August 2012 07: 38
                        +3
                        Alexei !
                        It is ugly to everyone who argues with you to call money-working !!
                      4. basal
                        basal 19 August 2012 19: 09
                        0
                        I agree with you! About money, this is very ugly.

                        Ugly on my part. But it just so happens that provocateurs have to be provoked to "deeds".

                        Maybe I'm wrong ... I will not argue.
        2. Kshatriy
          Kshatriy 18 August 2012 15: 26
          0
          Quote: Rumata
          the desire to visit this site disappears altogether.
          There is no criticism, only hatred.

          So bring down my dear ... I respect the first decree of the Empress of Russia Elizabeth (daughter Petrova) .. I have no desire to delve into and cite the text of the decree in her interpretation .... because you will survive in my exposition
          --- All the Jews outside the Russian Empire to be kicked out in 24 hours ---- and with what pleasure the Guard and the gendarmerie executed this decree of the Empress !!!
          1. Rumata
            Rumata 18 August 2012 15: 34
            0
            This is what I mean above. It seems that the fucked up on other resources, gradually flock here = (
          2. Pimply
            Pimply 18 August 2012 15: 56
            0
            Tell me, do you like Vysotsky?
        3. Insurgent
          Insurgent 18 August 2012 16: 23
          +1
          Yeah, how is Russia criticized or Belarus would you like, it’s important to go to the same zman, whom there are very unflattering reviews, say thank you for missing your koment, for zman, if it is not beneficial to moderators they will not let him
          1. Pimply
            Pimply 18 August 2012 16: 50
            0
            And what to go to Zman? I have been there personally repeatedly, I know journalists. There, according to the audience, are people who wrote for the Soviet press. And they continue to write in the same style and spirit. Zman is a deep provinciality, as is Channel Nine. There were still professionals at Nine, but they were being fired, slowly. But there was a very good news service. Leonid Blekhman clearly knows his audience - and works for her.

            More or less intelligible now - Israeli Newsru, with Finkel at the head, and Izrus, who, although engaged, is the only one of the Israeli Russian-language media to get real exclusives.
            1. Insurgent
              Insurgent 18 August 2012 22: 51
              0
              Well, you’ll call the addresses pathos already written, it remains with the wreck to figure out where the Soviet Union is, which is 20 years old
              1. Pimply
                Pimply 19 August 2012 00: 20
                0
                Well, at least for the sake of respect, you would pass your texts through a Word, or put the appropriate plug-in. And then the spelling is lame 8)
                1. Insurgent
                  Insurgent 19 August 2012 20: 05
                  0
                  I'm not a journalist, the academy did not finish
              2. Pimply
                Pimply 19 August 2012 00: 43
                0
                What about Reka? There is an excellent Natasha Konevskaya on the Rek, who went to the "Reshet-Bet".

                The rest is such a brawl, where there are a lot of good journalists, but it does not have any development, therefore it is cooked in itself. However, I’m better not to say anything about Reck - there are many friends there.
            2. Yarbay
              Yarbay 19 August 2012 07: 39
              0
              Do you still work as a journalist ??
            3. igor67
              igor67 19 August 2012 07: 49
              0
              Pimply,
              Pimply,
              I agree to watch channel 9 practical, announcers are not pros all the time go astray, there is no diction, really a small-town channel, for pensioners
              1. Pimply
                Pimply 19 August 2012 16: 55
                0
                Not in this case. There are now a bunch of good professionals dispersed. Shulik, Haltseker, Zhora (Zvi) Zilber. And they will accelerate further.
                1. Insurgent
                  Insurgent 19 August 2012 20: 07
                  0
                  How do you know everything, maybe you are from Massada, well, admit you got pierced)))
              2. Aaron Zawi
                Aaron Zawi 19 August 2012 21: 05
                +1
                the proportion of the elderly is still a "dozen" outlet. She is a joy to my parents.
            4. SlavaP
              SlavaP 19 August 2012 16: 32
              0
              How do you rate MIG News?
              1. Pimply
                Pimply 19 August 2012 16: 52
                0
                Are you laughing? How can one evaluate a resource in which weekly news is displayed on a regular basis and the number of errors rolls over?

                Mignews is a text news aggregator with a bunch of translation errors. Plus - that is 24 hours, and there is exclusive news from the international Jewish channel.
              2. Aaron Zawi
                Aaron Zawi 19 August 2012 21: 08
                +1
                "Blinking" she is "Blinking" laughing Although when they copy something fresh, sometimes they hit the target.
        4. Kshatriy
          Kshatriy 18 August 2012 18: 48
          0
          Quote: Rumata
          hatred of the Jews

          I wrote above, who is a Jew for me and what for me @ d..and why do you think that I will treat you without hatred if your whole being is saturated with extremism?
          Quote: Rumata
          I not only lose the desire to argue and prove something to someone, my desire to visit this site disappears altogether.

          And you learn to argue - reasonably - maybe I’ll go down to your level --- the level of sneak and provocateur .... brrr .. I won’t go down !!!!
          1. Pimply
            Pimply 18 August 2012 19: 18
            0
            That there is an argument for you, child. Article from the newspaper "Tomorrow"?
            1. Kshatriy
              Kshatriy 18 August 2012 22: 08
              0
              Quote: Pimply
              That there is an argument for you, child.

              My dear, your brilliant ability to answer a question with a question is emphasized not by your mind, but by your Jewish origin! However, I have never seen the newspaper "tomorrow". Little child, my dear man, yours on your avatar is mumbled ... You have only one argument - a complaint to the administrator ... (by the way, I have never insulted anyone today, And from you so much extremism towards the Russian people has been spat out. ..., mom, don't worry ...)
              1. Pimply
                Pimply 19 August 2012 00: 29
                0
                Oh, do not bother yourself and the Russian people. You are welcome. I think about the Russian people much better.
              2. Pimply
                Pimply 19 August 2012 00: 47
                0
                Are you so worried about my "Jewish" origin? Are you jealous? eight)
            2. Insurgent
              Insurgent 18 August 2012 22: 52
              0
              Well, the cursor is still less decent
              1. Pimply
                Pimply 19 August 2012 00: 28
                0
                The "cursor" very often makes actual mistakes. "Cursor" was good in its day. Long. Max is a good editor, but he can't pull off everything.
          2. Insurgent
            Insurgent 18 August 2012 22: 53
            0
            Well, you Blat Israeli got Olympic bronze for his team would really dislike your koment)))
          3. Pimply
            Pimply 19 August 2012 16: 56
            0
            Stupid, is it really you - who is worthy to talk about the 8 ARGUMENTED DISPUTE) Don’t make people laugh, stupid, go to mom
      2. jak
        jak 18 August 2012 14: 13
        0
        Oleg Rosskiyy
        This is what the entire Western world consists in, namely, the inadmissibility of criticism against you - the most "intelligent, just and peace-loving", but only reality says otherwise.
        ,

        As required.

        Book of the Prophet Obadiah
        Foreword: Esau / Edom symbolizes the Western world

        http://www.toraonline.ru/neviim/ovadya.htm
        1. Karish
          Karish 19 August 2012 20: 17
          0
          Quote: jak
          Book of the Prophet Obadiah

          So what ? You never know how many different rabbis and prophets of delusions have written (by the way, like various luminaries of Orthodoxy, Catholicism and Islam) for 2000 years, not more than yesterday, the spiritual leader of the Sephardic Jews wrote
          Anyone who sends their children to secular schools puts them at risk of plunging into bad culture and evil. This was stated in his weekly speech by the spiritual leader of the Shas party, Rabbi Ovadiya Yosef.
          According to him, secular schools leave "complete villains, and people completely immersed in a bad culture."

          "What can come out of there? There is nothing sacred, and the teachers are the same there," Rabbi Yosef explained his idea. Moreover, in his opinion, the one who sends his child to such a school "buries him alive."

          So what now? He is a ram and a ram in Israel. The paper suffers,
      3. Pimply
        Pimply 18 August 2012 15: 55
        0
        There are so many factual errors in the article that I, personally, got tired of counting them 8)
        1. Insurgent
          Insurgent 19 August 2012 20: 10
          +1
          You already have a disease, look for mistakes. Well, you’re not in the editorial office here, the working class and not the intelligence))
      4. Darck
        Darck 18 August 2012 19: 49
        +1
        This is what the entire Western world consists in, namely, the inadmissibility of criticism against you - the most "intelligent, just and peace-loving", but only reality says otherwise.
        Okay, here everything has long been switched to outright hatred, and at the level of the herd reflex.
        the most "intelligent, fair and peaceful
        Okay, but what is Russian, we are the most, and everyone who is the other stupid .... or is Russia a stronghold of justice and the fight against the devil. Most Russians are still convinced that they didn’t attack anyone when. Therefore Before drawing conclusions about others, you first need to look at yourself.
        I will explain. In the Russian language, which you speak so well, it is customary to contact strangers with you. It is a pity that this is unknown to you.
        I look at the Russians accepted, trying to excuse myself with etiquette, first making assumptions (of a negative nature) and then blaming the interlocutor for rudeness and guiding him on the right path, because what you wrote on this site often flashes. so educated, then treat as a well-mannered person, without these negative judgments, according to the same rule of etiquette, it is not proper to make such judgments about a stranger.
        Are they really not selling real estate to Israeli Jews in the Czech Republic and Bulgaria? "
        I don’t know about the Czech Republic, but in Bulgaria my friend from Israel (he is Jewish) has a couple of his own houses. When I was in Sofia I stayed with him. So they sell, they even have their own districts and communities there.
        1. basal
          basal 18 August 2012 21: 44
          +1
          Wow, another incarnation of Rumata and Pimple. Not weak guys work!

          So, Mr. Dark!
          If you are trying to learn THESE Russian upbringing, then first try to learn the grammar of the Russian language:

          If you are so educated, then treat yourself as a well-mannered person

          Poke your nose into grammatical errors, or do you understand?

          But about the answer to my question about the Czech Republic and Bulgaria, this is interesting, if possible in more detail. I'm really curious. I, in fact, voiced gossip, but how else can I call a review through third parties, and asked for comment on knowledgeable people. There are details, I read with interest. No jokes!
          1. Pimply
            Pimply 18 August 2012 22: 08
            0
            Yeah Now it remains about the worldwide Jewish conspiracy to listen to 8) Tell me?
          2. Darck
            Darck 19 August 2012 00: 36
            0
            If you are trying to learn THESE Russian upbringing, then first try to learn the grammar of the Russian language:
            I did not subscribe to the title of professor of the Russian language, so I don’t see the reason for the complaints, I’m writing it seems understandable, and this is the most important thing for me to convey the essence, and not to shine with grammar.
            But about the answer to my question about the Czech Republic and Bulgaria, this is interesting, if possible in more detail.
            What is more detailed?
          3. Aaron Zawi
            Aaron Zawi 19 August 2012 21: 14
            +3
            Half a year ago, my army comrade bought an apartment near Prague. And he is not alone. Several Israelis have smoked a small house, make repairs there and turn it into a hotel. I was not interested in Bulgaria, but submit a request on the Internet like: "Buy property in Bulgaria from Israel" and you will be happy.
    2. Insurgent
      Insurgent 18 August 2012 22: 48
      0
      You can kindly go to the tape, it’s more interesting there and the bagel is mostly Israeli
  21. Pimply
    Pimply 18 August 2012 14: 34
    +2
    The author has little understanding of the issue and Israeli realities. The same Vilnai, for example, goes to Beijing just for Bibi’s support, and he really wanted this post, he actively fought for it. And the whole article is from such flaws.
    1. Karabekir
      Karabekir 18 August 2012 14: 46
      0
      Pimpy!
      Perhaps you are right, but comments also exist to correct the author and help!
      1. Aaron Zawi
        Aaron Zawi 18 August 2012 15: 10
        +1
        Karabekir,
        In no case. I have not experienced such pleasure for a long time.
      2. Pimply
        Pimply 18 August 2012 15: 59
        +2
        Yes, you understand, in order to edit this graphomaniac opus, I will have to write a full-length article. And to write a full-fledged article, refuting delirium - this is from the cycle "prove to the psycho that he is not Napoleon." If you can prove it, then only that he is a Napaleon without a cocked hat. Do you understand?

        Why should I be considered a punks and a bandit -
        Isn't it better to go to me in anti-Semites:
        Although there are no laws on their side,
        Support and enthusiasm of millions.
        1. Kshatriy
          Kshatriy 18 August 2012 22: 34
          0
          Don’t touch Shifman’s bear
          Bears doubt
          He has Jews in every generation!
          Vaughn’s grandfather is broken
          And I have anti-Semite on anti-Semite ...
          .................
          I cried out - I'm here all
          You saved me at the port!
          But I’m catching the snag -
          Russian I'm on my passport
          Only Russians in the family
          My great-grandfather Samarin
          If anyone got into relatives,
          Duc and that Tatar .....

          Quote: Pimply
          this graphomanian opus

          But there is nothing to argue ....... A very precise definition for the article .....
        2. Yarbay
          Yarbay 19 August 2012 07: 40
          +1
          Pimpy!
          Karabekir asked you to convey that he finally understood you !!
    2. Arkan
      Arkan 19 August 2012 18: 57
      0
      Pimply,
      [quote = Pupyrchaty] The author has little understanding of the issue and Israeli realities.
      Does this author “understand the question?” Douglas Reed.
      The dispute about Zion (2500 years of the Jewish question)
      http://bookz.ru/authors/rid-duglas/zion2500/1-zion2500.html
  22. Nikopol
    Nikopol 18 August 2012 20: 03
    +1
    So everything is beautifully written ... But nothing, most billionaires are of Jewish origin - and who is who, and they will help their own. Not for this, the Jews tore the 5th point to give their piece of land. And let's not forget - the Israeli army, who like who doesn’t, is the most combat-ready in the region ... If anything starts, we are provided with a blockbuster. laughing
    1. v53993
      v53993 18 August 2012 22: 53
      0
      Precisely because most billionaires are of Jewish origin, they will begin with them. And they will finish them. They have outlived themselves.
  23. 12061973
    12061973 18 August 2012 21: 09
    0
    Maybe Alexander Prokhanov will write an analytical article about Israel.
    1. Insurgent
      Insurgent 18 August 2012 22: 56
      0
      Well, you are still there, pull the cago out of naphthalene, gr. Makashova, etc.
  24. ward
    ward 18 August 2012 21: 33
    -1
    Regarding the combat readiness of the Israeli army ... this is an anecdote about the Chukchi ... do not run faster than a bear ... Alas, the war with the Arabs ... not by the way good warriors ... showed that nothing is alien to her ... in its mass this is a militia ... and only the fact that the Arabs proved to be great slobs made it possible to achieve some acceptable results with great difficulty ... The last wars, when the Arabs picked up the key, let's say ... the Israeli army lost ... everyone understands this in Israel who is able to objectively assess the real state of things ... of course the propaganda machine works with might and main ... but how many do not say halva ... in your mouth it will not be sweet ...
    The law on the service in the army of the so-called Orthodox Jews is indicative ... who are not capable of anything creative ... in light of this, the new procedure for the entry of Jews into the United States is unpleasant ... it seems there they are not really needed ... the story repeats 30's ... It seems that the theory of controlled chaos in the Arab world ... is not so controlled ... as they say they wanted the best, but it turned out as always ...
    1. Rumata
      Rumata 18 August 2012 23: 09
      +1
      Using this logic, the Soviet-Finnish war showed that the USSR was sloven, militia and not so hot any warriors, I am silent about the first Chechen war ... What a habit of Ur patriots at every corner to yell that the United States is fighting against Aborigines, Israel and militias and Russia alone is stronger than all. Israel won the war where the advantage reached 10 to 1 in soldiers and equipment, the events of these wars are studied in officer academies around the world, tank battles in the Golan Heights during the Doomsday War, generally radically changed the attitude towards the strategy of using small tank formations in many countries, but there are no diplomas who do not even recognize this.
      During Operation Cast Lead, there were about, according to various sources, from 9000 to 15 militants in Gaza, the competent actions of soldiers and officers allowed them to be driven into basements, to destroy 000 people with a loss of 900 IDF soldiers, so instead of to learn from the experience of which more than one army of the world no longer has, you brush it off with the words "bully to fight with the natives, no problem" ...
      1. ward
        ward 18 August 2012 23: 22
        0
        Well, yes, about the Soviet-Finnish war, you’re absolutely right ... my grandfather served ... told the combatant 4-6 hours ... they shot five rounds of ammunition ... about the Chechen ... I think a Jew selling a patrol route to Arabs is fantastic ?? ? it’s wonderful about the Doomsday War that by this time Israel had nuclear weapons ... or everyone thought that they were ... that was the same ... but about Lead, I told you wonderful propagandists ...
        1. Rumata
          Rumata 18 August 2012 23: 32
          0
          Just the lack of good propaganda is the reason why Israel is losing the information war. Regarding Lead. I was personally present there, and was very impressed with how well-coordinated and professional everything was accomplished, the integration of all resources available to the army, from UAVs and satellites, to dog handlers and the Navy into one combat vehicle, which left no chance for the militants to wait and dig in a very long time. The number of mined houses and roads, equipped positions of shooters and all kinds of tunnels for entering the rear, exceeded all conceivable standards ...
          1. Odessa
            Odessa 18 August 2012 23: 36
            +3
            Rumata,
            Just the lack of good propaganda is the reason why Israel is losing the information war. Regarding Lead. I was personally present there, and was very impressed with how well-coordinated and professional everything was accomplished, the integration of all resources available to the army, from UAVs and satellites, to dog handlers and the Navy into one combat vehicle, which left no chance for the militants to wait and dig in a very long time. The number of mined houses and roads, equipped positions of shooters and all kinds of tunnels for entering the rear, exceeded all conceivable standards ...

            and when they turned us on the floor of the road (announcing a ceasefire), not allowing us to finish what we started, and after a while, we also received a falsified report of Goldstone, then the situation was generally hurt negative
            1. Rumata
              Rumata 18 August 2012 23: 42
              +2
              Yes, as usual, they received a blow below the waist from politicians, it was sad to look at the faces of the soldiers who were a couple of days from a complete sweep of Gaza from the militants.
          2. ward
            ward 18 August 2012 23: 45
            0
            I was there too ... nearby ... and propaganda is usually directed inward ... and there is one peculiarity ... we have such Benya Lazer ... so he called the main problem in Russia precisely the lack of domestic anti-Semitism. ..
      2. v53993
        v53993 18 August 2012 23: 23
        +1
        Hope dies last.
        But Israel, in the interest of Peace, will disappear sooner.
        Alas, fate, you yourself danced it.
        1. Aaron Zawi
          Aaron Zawi 19 August 2012 08: 42
          +4
          We lived and saw, we will wait and see. I honestly do not understand why anti-Semites should prove something? No, if people asked: "How do the Israelis see the article," then one could speculate, but you just get one more confirmation that it was a blessing for my children to be born in Israel and live as far as possible from these gentlemen and their offspring.
          By the way, what would you sleep better :-). In Russia, according to the latest census, today 170tys have called themselves Jews. people from them to youth and children from 18 and younger are only 3 Jews from 100. Jews are the oldest and almost endangered ethnic groups in the Russian Federation. In principle, this is not bad either for Russians or for Jews. (IMHO).
    2. Yarbay
      Yarbay 19 August 2012 07: 47
      -1
      Dear Ward!
      Here I do not agree with you !!
      You have a very disturbing feature, underestimate others!
      I speak not personally about you, but about a part of Russians !!
      You do not want to often see the obvious!
      I often see here an attitude of neglect towards the Turkish and Israeli army!
      It often seems that you live far in the past and do not want to see the present and future!
      The Israeli army is really strong !!
      with respect
      1. SlavaP
        SlavaP 19 August 2012 16: 40
        0
        Dear Yarbay, Thank you for your tact and wisdom. Tired of dense rudeness and extremism on our, as a whole, powerful and interesting site.
      2. ward
        ward 19 August 2012 21: 38
        +1
        Any army is strong and dangerous by definition .. another question is who the enemy is ...
  25. v53993
    v53993 18 August 2012 23: 02
    0
    Peace ... came, crept unnoticed, for the Jewish people. The Zionists (Jews) once again prepared him for the slaughter.
    The only difference is that there will be no rebirth.
  26. maxiv1979
    maxiv1979 18 August 2012 23: 25
    +3
    The Jews are the best soldiers in the world, having plundered everyone with a huge numerical superiority of the Arabs and qualitative superiority and planners of the USSR General Staff, well done. Let Iran bend down, stop making friends with freaks and kami, all who shout about Iran, for some reason, do not want to live there, and in all Belgium and Holland from the USA) give an example of a cry from Iran about human rights? What the hell are Western countries imposing
    1. ward
      ward 18 August 2012 23: 35
      0
      There is such a relationship. Losses are inversely proportional to the level of education ... a former rocket launcher is working at the next table ... he told how Arabs were cooked ... they memorized everything in a dull ... a little to the side ... and many specialists left Russia .. so the question of quality is removed ... and since the machine gun was invented and in terms of quantity ... about the USA, I had a green card ... went ... lived two months ... and returned .. reasons .. . did not like...
      1. v53993
        v53993 19 August 2012 08: 03
        +1
        In vain they took you back. Anyone who has become worthy of a green card in exchange for a homeland is not refundable.
        1. ward
          ward 19 August 2012 21: 35
          0
          You probably heard the story with the computer through which the green cards were played ... my first computer was called UM-1 ... I hope you can make conclusions yourself ...
  27. Needle
    Needle 19 August 2012 00: 24
    0
    Likely to return to Russia again.
  28. Aaron Zawi
    Aaron Zawi 19 August 2012 18: 26
    +1
    Watching, once again discussing the topic, I am still extremely curious, I came across a message from a participant under the nickname "Kshatriy" that the Jews did not serve in the army of Ingushetia. I’m not going to prove that Jews, being second-class citizens, were on fire to go to work. No, really. What are we worse than traffic jams? But they served and mostly not bad. And why disputes when there is a mass of information on the Internet. We are not the first to talk about this.
    http://forum.svrt.ru/index.php?showtopic=3176
    1. andrei332809
      andrei332809 19 August 2012 18: 31
      +1
      There is an assembly-disassembly of the machine for a while. Rabinovich managed the fastest.
      foreman says:
      -here, take an example from Rabinovich, a bad soldier, but he’s trying
  29. Karish
    Karish 19 August 2012 19: 47
    0
    Yes, the article is weak, they did not even bother to check the elementary facts.
    The Middle East Department of Intelligence Services of the United States conducted a special study, the data of which was released. This study says that the state of Israel will cease to exist in 2025.

    If the author at least provided a link to the original, it would be more like an author’s personal opinion flavored with an authoritative source, like
    Hussein al-Berbury analyst at Watan

    Well, the newspaper is called-Al Vatan, and judging by the name and the name ANALYTICS, it can be called an analyst, like some kind of Udugov from some kind of Kavkaz Center.
    How many analysts have divorced so much that, apart from promoting exclusively their thoughts divorced from reality, have not glorified themselves. It is a pity that the author did not find anything more reasoned and does not cite any facts, but only phrases and quotes taken out of context.
    In support of his thoughts, Hussein al-Berber quotes A. Toynbee, almost half a century ago who wrote: “Despite the victory, Israel will not last long. The community is anomalous, alien ... A tiny state on foreign lands, rejecting it. Like the many nations around him. ”

    What is this confirmation? He claimed 50 years ago, and ....? Now another clairvoyant claims fool
    “The latest disturbing news from the rear fronts suggests that the rear is not ready for war.” 40% of the population do not have gas masks

    Well, and I don’t, just go to the scrap to get it. They are not there not because they are not. but because it’s a bummer to keep these boxes that collect dust for years. And in general there is no hysteria, the dog barks - the wind wears. There will be no war with Iran, at least Israel will not start it. Here interests are tied up steeper than the type of fear of Israel, Iranian nuclear weapons.
    And in the country, everything is not so bad. gasoline really rises in price, but in general everything else is even nothing. Well, on the eve of the adoption of the budget, everyone suddenly starts screaming how poor they are, how bad everything is, there’s not enough money for anything, including the Moscow Region, they need the same grandmother . here again they scare another war. And we are familiar. The budget will be accepted and calm down
  30. dojjdik
    dojjdik 19 August 2012 21: 15
    +1
    yes, sometimes you wonder why our great-grandfathers saved these "abstruse" Jews from fascism; The Fuhrer is certainly a freak, but the question is why Hitler wanted to eradicate the Jews in the first place .; apparently remains open
    1. SlavaP
      SlavaP 19 August 2012 22: 24
      +1
      Nazi repression against ordinary Jews is nothing more than a lever of pressure on the Jewish financial aristocracy with the goal of raising money ...
      1. Arkan
        Arkan 19 August 2012 22: 41
        0
        SlavaP,
        There is also the opinion of one Englishman: ... "Nevertheless, this rotten enterprise would probably have died a natural death in a few years, remaining in the annals of history only as" Balfuro's folly ", if a completely new phenomenon had not come to his aid. Hitler's rise to power was a phenomenon, which filled for some time the gap in the Zionist fortress after the failure of the legend about "Jewish suffering in Russia" and gave rise to some Jews a desire to go even to Palestine. Without Hitler, the Zionists would have to invent him; with his help breathed for a while the idea revived for a while. The Hitler episode will be described in one of the later chapters of this book ... "Douglas Reid. "Dispute over Zion"
    2. Aaron Zawi
      Aaron Zawi 19 August 2012 22: 42
      +3
      dojjdik,
      Well, let's say that your great-grandfathers fought for your future. I don’t think what they thought about the future of the Jewish people. My grandfathers fought for my future.
      To my shame, recently, thanks to podvignaroda.ru, I found out HOW they fought. Of course they are not GSS and not generals, but still.
      And you know that not to be unfounded please:
      Shamai Abramovich Agranat and Mikhail Vladimirovich Erman. Read for the sake of principle. So I personally do not owe you anything.
  31. SlavaP
    SlavaP 19 August 2012 21: 29
    +1
    The state of Israel is a really difficult question.
    The Balfour letter and subsequent documents did not provide for the creation of the State. Nevertheless, it was created - a very, very risky step. What was it - post-war euphoria or cold calculation? It looks like someone very clever foresaw that Israel would turn into a forebear / leverage / scapegoat (cross out). And it's a pity - after all, whatever the homegrown Black Hundreds weave, the Jewish people have suffered enough for their long history and have earned the right to some peace and stability. But no - everything is seething both outside and inside. Not a country, but a tangle of contradictions - Jews - Arabs, Sephardic - Ashkenazi, religious - secular, Sabra - "Russian" .... Plus, I don't think Israel can survive without direct and indirect support from America - even if they really want it. If I'm not mistaken, Bibi Netanyahu was already prime minister once ten years ago, well, they threw him then mainly because he dared to proclaim his goal to achieve economic independence from America ... But times are changing - does America really need Israel now ?
    So in my opinion, the Israeli withdrawal scenario is not so unrealistic.
    1. Aaron Zawi
      Aaron Zawi 19 August 2012 22: 45
      +1
      SlavaP,
      You are mistaken Bibi gobbled up the right wing of his coalition for concessions to the Palestinians. As for the economy, just read something in common about it and let's estimate what will be poor with it when from the 2016 of the year Israel begins to export gas to Europe.
      1. SlavaP
        SlavaP 19 August 2012 23: 22
        0
        I won’t argue with you (so as not to amuse local anti-Semites), but I’m not sure that Israeli gas will be widely bought (like Russian, however) for purely political reasons. And a course in economics, by the way, I just recently listened to.
    2. Karish
      Karish 20 August 2012 07: 06
      +1
      Quote: SlavaP
      , Bibi Netanyahu was already prime minister once about ten years ago, and then they threw him mainly because he dared to proclaim his goal to achieve economic independence from America ..

      Israel a priori cannot be a fully independent state, like most states in the world (with the exception of superpowers), all the more so being so small, surrounded by enemies and at the center of the clash of interests of superpowers. Bibi did not fall out of a desire to gain economic independence from the states (the deal was about civilian economic assistance 800 million bucks a year) the amount is ridiculous, but the continuation of its receipt imposed some obligations on Israel (therefore it was abandoned 10 years ago. The government Bibi fell due to the complete lack of control (only the Barak government was worse than him — which lasted more than a year, why by the way did you remember him?) Bibi was young, ardent and not far-sighted, therefore he fell, now it’s a little different warehouse. Although mogom the same eggs, only in profile.

      Quote: SlavaP
      Plus, I do not think that Israel can survive without direct and indirect support from America.

      It can’t. But I think there is mutual interest, America needs Israel, like Israel in America. Anyway, where would Syria, Lebanon, Egypt (at one time), Iran be without the help and support of the USSR / Russia? Would they start a war against Israel? What is Abkhazia without Russia? There are no fully independent states, partially independent (i.e. j. bound by many international treaties and obligations) only superpowers.

      Quote: SlavaP
      But times are changing - does America really need Israel now?

      Everything in the world is changing. Does Syria need Russia now? Answer this question, you will answer your own.
  32. Arkan
    Arkan 19 August 2012 23: 15
    0
    ... Strange features distinguished the Jewish tribe from the first day of its appearance.
    It was always isolated and never got along with its neighbors. His
    the origin is shrouded in mystery, and in his sinister name is heard a certain
    an omen, as if from the very beginning this tribe was rather separated,
    rather than "chosen".
    The scriptures of the Levites rank him among the Israeli tribes,
    however, since these latter mingled later with other nations, this,
    seemingly leaves the Jews the last contenders for the gifts promised
    Jehovah's "Chosen People." The falsity, however, also denounces this claim
    the impartial testimony of the Jewish Encyclopedia about the Jews:
    it was apparently a non-Israelite tribe. "
    Such was this strange people who carried into the future invented by the Levites
    the doctrine of the "chosen tribe" to whom Jehovah allegedly promised inheritance
    "the promised land" and power over other nations, subject to the exact
    fulfillment of his "precepts and commandments". The final version of these
    prescriptions of the Levites included in their number repeated demands "
    destroy "," destroy "," uproot. "So the Jewish tribe was
    predetermined to give birth to a nation whose only mission was to become
    destruction...
    Douglas Reed "Zion Controversy"

    ... About 500 years before the described events of 458 BC, i.e. almost 3000
    years ago, the end of the brief and fragile bond between Judea and
    Israel (children of Israel). Israel rejected the Jewish doctrine of the elect
    people and went his own way. (The name "Israel" given
    a Zionist state founded in Palestine in 1948 - false
    claim for someone else's name) ...

    ... Anyway, modern scholars agree with the ancient scriptures in
    that "Israel" and "Judea" were completely separate tribal
    formations. In the Old Testament, Israel is often called "the house of Joseph", and
    Judea - "the house of Judas", thus emphasizing their mutual isolation.
    The Jewish Encyclopedia writes: "Joseph and Judas belong to different
    hereditary lines ", adding, as already mentioned, that the Jews" throughout
    the probabilities were not an Israelite tribe. ”In Encyclopedia Britannica stands,
    that Judaism formed much later than the Israelites merged with others
    nationalities, and that on the relationship of these two peoples can only
    say, "The Israelites weren't Jews." Israel's history was very brief,
    after which he left the world stage. Judea lasted a little longer
    giving rise to Judaism, from which Zionism subsequently arose ...
    1. Aaron Zawi
      Aaron Zawi 19 August 2012 23: 26
      +1
      Arkan
      We will exchange quotes from great writers fellow
      “He (the Jew) can be proud that he always fought valiantly against the whole world, although he had to fight with his hands tied behind his back. The Egyptians, Babylonians and Persians filled the earth with noise and splendor, but then melted like smoke and disappeared. The Greeks and Romans inherited their loud glory and also disappeared into oblivion. ”Other peoples came for a time, raising their flaming torch high, but it burned out and now they sit in deep darkness or have completely disappeared.
         The Jew saw them all, defeated them all, and today he is the same as he always was: one does not see in him decline or senile weakness, the weakening of his energy or the tarnishing of his lively and sharp mind. Everything in the world is mortal, but not a Jew. Everything disappears and only the Jew is eternal. "(M. Twain." Concerning the Jews ")

      As for the right of the Jewish people to the state of Israel, how else could it be called? Can you remind me what the state created by 12 was called by Jewish tribes? Where was their capital? What tribes remained under Jerusalem? wink What is the second self-name of the Jewish people (a tip in honor of one of the forefathers tongue .)
      1. Arkan
        Arkan 19 August 2012 23: 53
        0
        Quote: Aron Zaavi
        The Jew saw them all, defeated them all, and today he is the same as he was always: he does not see decline or senile weakness, weakening of his energy or dimming of his lively and keen mind
        .Aha, and at every opportunity, crying about the Holocaust ... By the way, not so long ago (a year and a half or two ago), the Israeli Knesset refused to equate (it was about some kind of benefits) Jews who were injured in the fight against Nazism to the IDF soldiers injured during the service, citing a lack of funds ... I hope that when Israel starts selling gas to Europe, there will be funds for several dozen old people ... (if they survive).

        Quote: Aron Zaavi
        We will exchange quotes from great writers

        No, we won’t. I’m not actually posting them for you.
        1. Aaron Zawi
          Aaron Zawi 20 August 2012 00: 49
          +2
          In the state of Israel, WWII disabled people have been equated for benefits to IDF disabled people since 1952 of the year. And for veterans there are no separate benefits. For example, from your point of view, I’m also a war veteran, like my comrades, but we don’t have any benefits. Well, what kind of benefits does a peasant who has returned healthy after defending the Fatherland need?
          as for the links, I understand that they are bothering me, but what about the diversity of opinions? wink
    2. Arkan
      Arkan 19 August 2012 23: 28
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      ... A brief joint history of Israel and Judea came to an end in 937 BC
      R.Kh. After the death of Solomon, this fragile association broke up completely,
      and in the north, Israel returned to an independent life ...
      1. Aaron Zawi
        Aaron Zawi 19 August 2012 23: 43
        +1
        what it means backthat before the collapse of the one kingdom of Israel into two Northern "Israel" and Southern "Judea" there was a certain state of Israel? You are somewhat confused in your attempt to comment on Jewish history. laughing
        1. Arkan
          Arkan 20 August 2012 00: 03
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          Quote: Aron Zaavi
          You are somewhat confused in trying to fomenicize Jewish history

          ))) No, I just cited quotations without following the chronology. But if you are interested - well, the opinion of historians about the "unification": The history of the unsuccessful unification of these two tribes belongs to the previous
          over the centuries. The mythological and legendary era of Moses was followed by Canaan.
          the period when "Israel" was a strong and cohesive country with clear boundaries:
          Northern Confederation of Ten Tribes. Judea, which joined and
          the small tribe of Benjamin was only a small settlement in the south. This
          Judea, who gave rise to the current Zionism, has always enjoyed notoriety. Judas
          sold his brother Joseph the beloved son of Jacob to the Israelites for twenty
          pieces of silver (much later than another Judas, the only Jew among the disciples,
          sold Jesus Christ for thirty). By incest, he laid later
          beginning of the Jewish tribe (Genesis 37-38). Centuries after described
          the events of the Levitical scribes became masters of Judea and by recording oral
          Traditions, they did not hesitate to distort them in the sense they needed. The question is,
          why they so carefully preserved, and maybe even inserted an episode
          incubation of the tribe and why they describe in such detail
          the treacherous nature of the people, according to them, chosen by God? It is like a lot
          another in the Levitical writings, shrouded in mystery, the keys of which are kept by the ruling
          sect...
          1. Arkan
            Arkan 20 August 2012 00: 11
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            ... Wherein,
            the small southern tribe of the Jews became identified with the landless tribe
            hereditary Levitical priests who claimed that the priesthood was entrusted
            to them and their descendants by Jehovah himself on Mount Sinai. They were the fathers of Judaism:
            roaming among the tribes they preached war in the name of Jehovah. Seeking power,
            they saw her in the form of a theocracy, where God is king and religion is law.
            In the period of the Book of Judges, the Levites almost reached their goal, and since
            they were the judges themselves. Most of all to them and the isolated Jewish tribe
            needed a merger with Israel. However, the Israelis did not want to be led
            sectarian priesthood, agreeing to unification only under the authority of the king;
            all the nations around them were ruled by kings.
            The Levites seized on this opportunity, as it was clear that the king
            he will leave the midst of the ruling class, but they themselves have become the ruling class.
            The monarchy was founded by their senior priest Samuel, having planted the puppet king, for
            whose backs were dominated by the priesthood. The king was allowed to rule only
            for life. So that he could not establish a dynasty. Samuel chose Saul to be king
            a young peasant from the tribe of Benjamin who distinguished himself in military campaigns,
            from whom obedience was expected in the future. That Saul was elected from the tribe
            Benjamin, shows that the Israelites did not want to have a king-Jew.
            The united kingdom of Israel lasted only during the reign
            Saul, his first and last king.
            The fate of Saul (at least according to the scripture) is already
            glimpses the true nature of future Judaism. Saul was ordered
            start a holy war with the Amalekites: "Now go and defeat Amalek and
            consume all that is with him; and do not give mercy to him, but put him to death from her husband before
            wives, from boy to suckling child, from ox to sheep, from camel to donkey. "
            So they were all destroyed, "from husband to wife, from boy to breastfeeding
            baby ", but" Saul and the people spared King Agag and the best of the sheep and oxen and
            fattened lambs ... "(First Book of Kings, 15, 9).
            1. Arkan
              Arkan 20 August 2012 00: 17
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              For this, Saul was
              excommunicated by Samuel, secretly electing David from Judea as his successor. Saul
              tried to regain the favor of the Levites, zealous in "full
              extermination ", then tried to kill David and thereby save his throne, but also
              to no avail. In the end, he committed suicide. It’s possible that nothing
              this actually was not, and that this is only a story from the book of Samuel,
              written by the Levites hundreds of years later. It doesn't matter if it's true or an allegory
              important conclusions from this story: Jehovah demands "complete destruction"
              alien and expects that his order will be executed literally; pity and
              leniency is a serious crime and cannot be forgiven. This lesson
              repeated many times in the future, and it doesn’t matter if the events described
              facts or fiction.
              With the death of Saul 3000 years ago, it ceased to exist and
              united state; Israel did not want to have a king, a Jew, David. how
              writes Kastein, "the rest of Israel ignored him" and proclaimed his son king
              Saul, Ishbosheth, resulting in a final division into
              Israel and Judea. According to the Book of Samuel, Ishbosheth was killed and his head
              sent to David, who restored the country's nominal unity and made it
              the capital of Jerusalem. In reality, however, David failed to unify
              neither kingdom nor tribes: he only established a dynasty that lasted another
              governing body.
              1. Arkan
                Arkan 20 August 2012 00: 23
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                True Judaism teaches to this day that the messianic conclusion
                history will take place during the reign of the earthly king "from the house of David,"
                exclusivity is the first rule of this teaching (and the law in Zionist
                state). The origin of the David dynasty acquires, therefore, for us
                important value. In the era of cohabitation of Israelis and Jews, no
                people did not know racial discrimination. Old Testament describes how a Jew
                David, seeing from the roof of his house a "very beautiful woman" bathing, ordered
                bring her to her, and she gave birth to him. Her husband, a Hittite, David
                during the war ordered to kill at the front, after which he took this woman, according
                named after Bathsheba, among her many wives. Her second son is from David, Solomon,
                inherited the throne of his father. This was, according to the scribes and Levites,
                the origin of Solomon, the last king of the collapsed union of two
                countries. Solomon began his reign with three murders, including a murder
                sibling. Later he unsuccessfully tried to save his dynasty by
                the Habsburg method, marriages, but on a much larger scale. is he
                married the princely daughters of Egypt and many neighboring tribes, and kept hundreds
                other "younger" wives. Racial segregation was clearly unknown in his time.
                Further, as you know, Solomon built the temple and established hereditary
                high priesthood.
                The brief joint history of Israel and Judea came to an end in 937 BC.
                R.Kh. After the death of Solomon, this fragile association broke up completely,
                and in the north, Israel returned to an independent life. Castain describes this
                period: "These two countries had, in good and bad, no more in common than
                any two other countries with a common border. From time to time they fought
                with each other, then reconciled and concluded contracts, but always remained
                completely separate. Israelis have lost faith in any particular
                mission, and under King Jeroboam Israel both politically and
                religiously, completely broke with Judea. "
            2. Aaron Zawi
              Aaron Zawi 20 August 2012 00: 40
              +1
              Oh. young man ! Well, I don’t have the strength to argue with your co-pirate. It just got boring.
              By the way, they would give the people a link to a book that you so carefully reprint in pieces. Suddenly someone interested.
              1. Arkan
                Arkan 20 August 2012 01: 00
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                I posted the link to Douglas Reed's book right away - look at the top of the topic. Well, and the rest - type in "history of Palestine" in Google and read nazdorovye. Jewish Encyclopedia "," British Encyclopedia ", Rabbi Emil Hirsch .... The data in this matter are really different, but I did not count the Israeli tribes ...))))
          2. Aaron Zawi
            Aaron Zawi 20 August 2012 00: 35
            +1
            here is no need for an Israelite to hang noodles on the ears. In the first tribes there were 12. "Judah" was the largest and most powerful tribe. Secondly, for especially advanced. 12 tribes got their names in honor of 12 sons of Jacob, also called "Israel". Therefore, they were all called "sons of Israel" ~ "bnei Israel". fellow All the brothers sold their brother Joseph to the Egyptian merchants, except for Benjamin, who was with his father.
            So a young man, you would at least go to church before writing nonsense. The priests usually know the Torah (Old Testament) decently, and you post nonsense from some second-class books. I basically drum. Why not have fun, but you yourself are compromising.
  33. Arkan
    Arkan 19 August 2012 23: 33
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    ... "They decided that they
    predetermined to become a special race ... that their lifestyle should be
    completely different from the people around them. The required distinction is not
    even thought about merging them with neighbors. They wanted to be isolated
    completely different from everyone else. "
    The reasons for the gap are clear, it is also clear why the further history of these two
    peoples went different ways: Israel believed in its common with the rest
    Judaism rejected the fate of humanity for the very reasons why
    it was repeatedly rejected, in the next three millennia, by other peoples.
    "Judaism demanded isolation, absolute difference" - Kastein writes ...

    The Kiev Cheka, whose indescribable atrocities became known to the whole city in 1919 after only six months of Bolshevik domination, was led by 25 chief security officers, 23 of whom were Jews. The total number of employees of the Kiev Cheka reached 300 at different times. Upon the liberation of the city by white troops in 1919, the list of victims killed and tortured by the most barbaric methods, including women and gymnasium students, was published by the newspaper V.V. Shulgin “Kievyanin”, ( see V.V.Shulgin, “What do we dislike about them?”, Paris 1930, recently reprinted again).
    1. Aaron Zawi
      Aaron Zawi 19 August 2012 23: 48
      +1
      yeah, the Jews did not believe in their common destiny with humanity, and Bnei Israel believed feel That these are two self-names of one people, I hinted to you above. lol
      Well, about the fact that treacherous Jews deceived all the peoples of the Republic of Ingushetia and are to blame for everything, I already read so much that don’t bother cooperating lol I already know that the Jews in splendid isolation are not only to blame for everything, but they also defeated the White Army, the Entente, the Japanese, the Zionists and, in general, all who fought the Bolsheviks. Damn, I am absolutely delighted with their power. fellow
      1. Arkan
        Arkan 20 August 2012 00: 45
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        Yes, it’s like I’ve read something and where. I have some life experience, a good memory, and quotes that I confirmed above: Israel is a state built (and living) on ​​lies and blood. And as for individual individuals: the truth from a Jew can be achieved only in one simple way - by carefully straightening his lining (here without quotes, he personally checked). Good luck in the struggle for survival.))))
        1. Aaron Zawi
          Aaron Zawi 20 August 2012 01: 28
          +1
          Yes Yes. Everything is clear with Israel. hi
          As for aligning, I remember my boxing coach Naum Abramovich Shparber was telling an anecdote. "There are two anti-Semites and they see a pronounced Jew walking. And one says to the other:" Give him a face, "" And if he is sick to us, "the second is cautious." And what are we for? "The first one sincerely does not understand."
          I always remember this anecdote after the so-called "straightening" of the profile, I told young people like you, and you know, despite the situation, it made them smile. Humor is a great power.
          1. Arkan
            Arkan 20 August 2012 02: 18
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            ))) Those Jews with whom I had to deal turned out to be just petty swindlers (and so petty as to remember funny, God's chosen people ...)))))))))))), but they turned out to be no boxers at all)) )) Actually, then I had a steady antipathy towards the Jews (anti-Semitism, in your opinion)))).
            1. Aaron Zawi
              Aaron Zawi 20 August 2012 08: 19
              +1
              I can only sympathize with you. But apparently you yourself determine your social circle. So to speak, look for your own kind. wink And the Jews, well, they are different, including small swindlers and bad boxers, and there are Blavatniki and Zuckerbergs, or
              http://www.jewish.ru/style/press/2008/11/news994268310.php. Вообще желаю Вам не встречаться больше с евреями, тем более что у Вас на Украине их не так уж много.
    2. Aaron Zawi
      Aaron Zawi 20 August 2012 00: 53
      +1
      Arkan
      oh gee! What race? Did they decide to become Negroids or Mongoloids or even revive the way of Neanderthals?
      Well, copywriting, copywriting, but you have to think about the text sometimes. lol
      1. Arkan
        Arkan 20 August 2012 01: 08
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        Quote: Aron Zaavi
        oh gee! What race? Did they decide to become Negroids or Mongoloids or even revive the way of Neanderthals?
        Well, copywriting, copywriting, but you have to think about the text sometimes. lol

        ))) This again is not a question for me. Details you can find out from Joseph Kastein)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))) )))
        1. Aaron Zawi
          Aaron Zawi 20 August 2012 01: 30
          +1
          Can I ask Karl Marx more? This rabbi's grandson also spoke a lot of "compliments" about Jews.
          1. Arkan
            Arkan 20 August 2012 02: 27
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            Quote: Aron Zaavi
            Can I ask Karl Marx more? This rabbi's grandson also spoke a lot of "compliments" about Jews.

            Well, why not “ask”? In some ways he was mistaken (which is understandable, the theory is not always confirmed by practice), but in many respects he turned out to be right. Yes, and as you said there - “but what about the diversity of opinions ? ". And it is quite possible - he said what he knew for sure (the rabbi's grandson, after all, he knows better).
            1. Aaron Zawi
              Aaron Zawi 20 August 2012 08: 22
              +1
              let's just say that he doesn’t know better, but he had his own opinion about them. As long as someone else’s opinion of me does not go into the murder of my loved ones, I’m ready to discuss it even if it’s extremely unpleasant
              1. Arkan
                Arkan 20 August 2012 11: 38
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                Quote: Aron Zaavi
                so to speak

                ))) Yes, say what you want. There is a reasoned opinion of scientists, philosophers, publicists (including Jewish ones), and there is the opinion of the Israeli Foreign Ministry, which, motivating Israel's unwillingness to comply with UN Resolution 242, declares that "... the demographic situation over the past 30 years, it has changed dramatically ... "(even the Nazis avoided such statements). And there is also the opinion of some Jews roaming around on various sites and telling that there is no fascism in Israel, these are inventions of anti-Semites." And there is also an opinion: The murder by Israeli special services (without any trial or investigation) of Iranian scientists (in fact, civilians.) - de facto puts the Israeli special services on a par with any other terrorist organizations. And there is also a wish to Arabs and Persians to correct the "demographic situation as soon as possible. "...
  34. Sars
    Sars 20 August 2012 05: 42
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    The Israeli leadership is conducting Operation Israel-2 to resettle the state to a more profitable living space.
    To do this, they need to find candidates for the "new Hitler" and for the "new fascist regime."
    Further, according to the proven scheme:
    Receive "Holocaust-2". It will be very great for them if weapons of mass destruction are used against Israel.
    Further, a worldwide hysteria: "the most peaceful people have been offended",
    Further, the transfer of particularly valuable personnel to a new place of residence.
    The most attractive territory for moving today - stripped
    Libya.
    It remains to provoke Iran or Syria on the first blow.
    1. Aaron Zawi
      Aaron Zawi 20 August 2012 08: 24
      +1
      Sars,
      You would ask the Libyans what they think about it. feel
      1. Sars
        Sars 20 August 2012 09: 01
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        And who had asked them before?
  35. Averias
    Averias 20 August 2012 10: 32
    0
    The author forgot to mention the Hasid - the Masons. These radicals do not even consider ordinary Jews to be people. So go ahead, in search of the promised land. And what people do not live in peace. And as for the puppeteers, I have long had the strong impression that this is .... well, not really people (Homo Sapiens) in direct understanding. Of course, I’m not talking about the green men (we surrendered to them navigations), but something non-human is visible in their actions. And the goal is not entirely clear, since world domination sounds silly.
    1. Aaron Zawi
      Aaron Zawi 20 August 2012 10: 53
      +1
      I can not help but wonder at human laziness. request Is it really difficult to grab at least superficial knowledge before writing nonsense? http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/ Hasidism
      http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Масонство
  36. Arkan
    Arkan 20 August 2012 10: 47
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    Douglas Reed's Book of Controversy over Zion is Now Online!

    The author of this book, Douglas Reed, was a well-known British correspondent during the Second World War. In 1951, he began writing The Controversy of Zion. Creating all 300 words of the book took more than three years. In 000, he finished work on the epilogue of his work. Despite the fact that there are letters confirming that the publication of The Zion Dispute was once discussed with the publisher, the manuscript was never published, and for 1956 years was gathering dust in the author’s desk in Durban, South Africa.

    If Douglas Reed had the Internet! Now, half a century later, when the Internet exists, it should help spread the author’s effective truth. Several chapters of the book show how much Douglas Reed would have wished to have such an opportunity. About as much as Zionist censors hate the Internet and see it as a hindrance to using its worldwide brainwashing technology using the media.

    Just before the start of World War II and in the post-war years, the name of Douglas Reed was in Europe on everyone's lips. His books were sold by tens of thousands of copies. The author's works were well known to the numerous army of his admirers throughout the English-speaking world. And then, all of a sudden, the publisher's doors closed in front of Douglas Reed. He became objectionable.

    So what is this book about?
    Take a look at its chapters and judge for yourself ... http://bookz.ru/authors/rid-duglas/zion2500/1-zion2500.html
    1. Aaron Zawi
      Aaron Zawi 20 August 2012 11: 01
      +1
      Ahhh, a serious scientist. lol On the Internet, do you know how much such scribbling is much more recent? Yes, you Mr. Arkan forgive me for characterizing a retrograde. feel
      1. Arkan
        Arkan 20 August 2012 11: 47
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        Quote: Aron Zaavi
        Ahhh, a serious scientist

        )))) He was NEVER a scientist, he is a publicist. Yes, you are Aron Zaavi, forgive me for the description - yap.
        1. Aaron Zawi
          Aaron Zawi 21 August 2012 20: 59
          +1
          Well, why not fuss? wink It is impossible to seriously discuss the writings of the next PUBLICIST!
      2. hohryakov066
        hohryakov066 20 August 2012 12: 31
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        As the discussion slipped into very dark jungle.
        One clever Jew once said that the difference between Christians and Jews is that some believe that there will be a savior someday, while others that have already come!
        This argument of nerves is not worth it. For a long time already religion does not determine life in Russia, and in Israel, despite all the statements and laws, too.
  37. Rumata
    Rumata 20 August 2012 15: 45
    0
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jz0qww8eKsE
  38. gregor6549
    gregor6549 20 August 2012 17: 00
    +2
    The people, of course, what was hammered into the minds of owls to people for many years about the "Zionist Morganists", their "bloodthirsty" plans to take over the whole world, etc. have not gone anywhere, And therefore many sleep and see how they disappear in the sacred flame of war " vile "Israel. But they forget that it is Israel that is the outpost of the civilized world on the border with the world of medieval obscurantism and pays for the functions of the outpost with the real lives of its citizens. At the same time, very many Israeli citizens have a very good attitude towards Russia and the Russians. If this outpost disappears (which is unlikely), then its functions will have to be taken over by those who now prefer to spit in the direction of Israel, sitting on the sidelines.

    About the fighting ability of Israel. Israel has proven its combat effectiveness more than once, including in a direct clash with Soviet pilots in the 1973 year. And this clash ended with the score 5: 0 (or 5: 1) not at all in favor of the co-pilots, eternal memory to them.

    It is also known, although not very widely, that nuclear weapons were created by Israel as a last resort to deter not only the "hot Arab guys, but also some zealous marshals of the USSR with their desire to punish the" vile Zionists "by direct participation of the Soviets Army units in the war with Israel on the side “Arab brothers.” And the Soviet leadership was subtly hinted that the Israeli Air Force could easily reach Moscow with its Phantoms 4 with nuclear weapons, if Israel had no other choice. a full-scale war with the USSR, if the USSR does not slow down. By the way, they make it very clear even now, although they play their own games. But this time the Arabs are also playing these games, who are not at all happy with the warlike plans of the Persians.
    1. Arkan
      Arkan 20 August 2012 23: 10
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      gregor6549,
      My childhood and youth were spent in the USSR, remind me where, who and how hammered into my head “for many years about the“ Zionist Morganists ”?” Of course, I sometimes skipped classes at school, but not so often ... "Phantoms" carrying nuclear bombs to Moscow in Israel and are still often posted on various sites (here it is http://gidepark.ru/community/4391/content/1399777). How true it is not to judge me, but the possibility attacks of a city capable of repelling a simultaneous attack of eight hundred aircraft (to which it still needs to fly) by the Israeli Air Force - clinical optimism.
    2. woodman
      woodman 21 August 2012 22: 50
      +1
      Good article at the beginning of the conversation. I wanted to do the Newsletter ... but such nonsense in the comments, just horror ...
      You are the gentlemen of the military, you are worse than the women of the bazaar. No respect and no common purpose on this site. You are in the Army nibbling and laying each other so here ....
      It would be better if we realized that this wave of ex-immigrants would come to the Don, to the Volga. And for this they are preparing our miserable country ... They are forcing us to scamper over trifles like a PR group, where, for what, Putin rested, and how many wives he has, yes .... Gentlemen, military men. You do not need to discuss gossip, but ... ah ...
      Not even a word is found. A good site, good useful flocks appear sometimes, but this is an army .... Ugh!
      1. Arkan
        Arkan 22 August 2012 00: 02
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        woodmanTo be honest, I do not quite understand what exactly you are unhappy with. We live in an era of narrow specialization (for example, modern works on mathematics, history or physics are published for two or three thousand people all over the planet, the rest of them simply will not be able to understand), and the fact that one may seem nonsense - it can help another in life ... And the mailing list - once you decide to do so, the first impression is usually the most correct. Someone will read and forget, and someone, in the author's text, may see the missing link for their conclusions, even if in general and disagree ... At this point, as they say: "Caesar - Caesar, and locksmith - locksmith"))). Success to you, and prosperity!
  39. Patriot
    Patriot 23 August 2012 17: 26
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    ISRAEL DO NOT BE UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES.

    SO THIS IS A BLOODY, CINEMIC FASCIST STATE ALREADY EXHAUSTED ALL RIGHTS TO EXIST. JUST ALSO AS SUCH A NATIONALITY AS JEWS?

    FOR SO MUCH EVIL, TROUBLE, SUFFERING AND ADVERTISEMENT, HOW MUCH THIS COUNTRY DOES, NO ONE AND NEVER HAS MANKIND HUMAN.

    AND, SHOW YOU SO SAY SHO I WRONG?
    1. Rumata
      Rumata 23 August 2012 21: 21
      0
      Ты таки не ешь больше эти грибы
    2. Aaron Zawi
      Aaron Zawi 23 August 2012 23: 39
      +1
      Patriot
      Uryayayayaya !!! hi
  40. Patriot
    Patriot 24 August 2012 10: 08
    -1
    LLC, you look suddenly from nowhere kosher scraps flew in and began to minus the truth. Well, nothing at all. Frolic for now. For, Soon Russia will rise from sleep and throw off your Eughean yoke. Your Eughean age will end. Which began in 1917. With some interruptions of freedom during the reign of the same I.V. Stalin. And, if it weren’t for your second purim, your Eughean happiness would have ended. But unfortunately you killed him. And, gradually penetrating the power structures at all levels, we slowly undermined our state!
  41. gregor6549
    gregor6549 24 August 2012 10: 28
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    Dear Patriot, you did not accidentally confuse the site where military-political and military-technical problems are discussed (and they are discussed at a fairly decent level) with the Ministry of Propaganda named after your esteemed Dr. Goebbels. Calm down and do not dishonor the country whose patriot you are trying to portray yourself. The patriots are doing their job, and not spitting saliva like you, exhausted from the impotence of your fearlessness. And they do it in silence. If you don't like Israel, sign up as a volunteer for Hezbollah or Hamaz or for Ahmedizhan himself and go to fight on their side with Israel. The flag is in your hands. Only how far will you go? Most likely not very much. A request to the administrators. From time to time to carry out sanitization of such "patriots". It would be nice to have dust
    1. Rumata
      Rumata 24 August 2012 14: 25
      0
      I never cease to be amazed at how tenacious similar personalities on this site are, it seems that they are not only not being banned, but they are encouraged to do the same, I don’t see another explanation = (
      1. SlavaP
        SlavaP 24 August 2012 23: 23
        0
        Here, in my opinion, a small handful of well-paid provocateurs work, who pop up under different names and knock us down from a constructive dialogue. So do not waste time and do not get distracted!
        On the case, I already wrote that I do not exclude the possibility of "drain" of Israel and this will be a quick solution to some tactical problems, but it will turn into a catastrophe in strategic terms. It will be interpreted as a sign of the weakness of the European (I include Russia here) Judeo-Christian civilization (you can run into me, but Christianity has grown out of Judaism and shares half of the Bible with it) and then waves of barbarism will sweep us away.
  42. Patriot
    Patriot 24 August 2012 12: 21
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    I beg you to ... Leave your epithets in the style of sputtering, dishonoring the country, etc. with me. Father, take care of your Eughean eloquence. I think you will really need it in the coming years. Since you have captivated our country with Vovochka and his Eughean thieves' gang, pumping out all the juices from Our Russia, now lives sooo freely. You are the type of parasite on the victim’s body. But soon this outrage will come to an end. Our country is waiting for the great changes that will benefit her and her people only for the good.
    About Iran. Tell me at least one sane argument for minimal hitting in relation to this peaceful and peace-loving country? You reproach Iran for the desire to create its own atomic bamboo, as a guarantee of the peaceful future of this country.
    Meanwhile, you and your railway authorities around the world are deliberately concealing the fact that Israel has atomic missiles in the amount of 200-300 warheads. And who allowed some countries to secretly have nuclear weapons, while others are severely punished for this. And, more ... Why, within the framework of the American pseudo peaceful aspiration of "nonproliferation of nuclear weapons, the same NATO countries do not start bombing your occupying Israel first? You already have nuclear weapons."
    And as for the dignity of processing ... It seems to me that foreign cuttings under the flags of Russia’s unfriendly countries need it much more than representatives of peoples originally living on the territory of the Russian Federation.
  43. Patriot
    Patriot 24 August 2012 14: 20
    -1
    And here is a new fictional Holocaust on your face

    http://lenta.ru/news/2012/08/23/notmade/

    ABOUT THE SAME CUTTINGS LOVE TO BUILD FROM YOURSELF THE POOR AND DAMAGED, but in reality they are the worst enemies of the human race, clashing countries and peoples. In a word, wolves in sheep's clothing.
  44. skullcap
    skullcap 24 August 2012 20: 01
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    Israel: to be or not to be?
    ---------------------------------------
    This question directly depends on how true the old Israeli anecdote is: “Which language in Israel is the second most common?” - Answer: “Hebrew.” Implying that the first is Russian.
    In history, this lesson has already passed when the Nazi Jews of Western Europe were driven into the ghetto for the purpose of their subsequent resettlement in Palestine, and they destroyed the Soviet (read: Russian) Jews from the first day of the Great Patriotic War.
    In the postwar Soviet journalism published a lot of materials on cooperation with the Nazis Zionists. The latter determined who was the withered branch of the Jewish people and should be cut off.
    If, indeed, Russian Jews with their mentality began to prevail in Israel, which the organizers of the God's chosen people project have historically disliked, then we can well expect that they will consider it expedient to cut off the entire entire state of Israel as a useless dried branch. And, by the way, there will be another new reason to talk about the suffering of the people of Israel.
    But it is more visible on the spot. Therefore, the prospects of Israel will more accurately be determined by the local people and the fact that their vast mass has second citizenships indicates that the situation is quite serious.
  45. Patriot
    Patriot 5 September 2012 18: 22
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    Hello to all Russians.


    And you, "our" kosher friends, trimming-group shalom. But, just tell me. Are you still worried about your anti-human occupation country? Everything is correctly noted in the article. Moreover, the article is amerovskaya. If you have not understood yet, then in the next 5-10-15 years from your pseudo-state, based on the suffering and blood of your neighbors oppressed by you, there will be no stone unturned. And if Iran does not do it, then the Islamic world, which has overeat after widespread revolutions under radical banners, will wipe Israel off the face of the earth. But, again, you and the amerikosy launched this mechanism, which will cover you.

    LET IT BE SO!

    As the saying goes, SEED, THEN WILL REAP!
    Yes, and your sponsor of the United States, managed at the present time, and will not be swept in the near future either. And, help from the pi ... mill will be excised every year.
    So ... Women, take heart, men - get married.
  46. Tofaa
    Tofaa 13 August 2015 12: 03
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    Russia: to be or not to be?