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"Admiral Gorshkov" successfully launched a hypersonic missile "Zircon"

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"Admiral Gorshkov" successfully launched a hypersonic missile "Zircon"

The Northern Fleet has conducted yet another test of the Zircon hypersonic missile. According to the press service of the Ministry of Defense, the rocket was launched from the frigate Admiral Gorshkov.


Russian frigate, being at one of the sea ranges of the Northern fleet in the White Sea, launched the Zircon hypersonic missile at a ground target. According to objective control data, the rocket, having flown about 8 kilometers at a speed of more than Mach 350, hit the target at the Chizha training ground in the Arkhangelsk region.

Project 22350 lead frigate "Admiral of the Soviet Union Fleet Gorshkov" fired a Zircon hypersonic cruise missile from the White Sea at a coastal target located at the Chizha training ground in the Arkhangelsk region

- said in a statement.


The closure of the firing area was provided by the forces of the White Sea Naval Base of the Northern Fleet.

Note that this is already the third test of "Zircon" in recent years. In early October this year, a missile launched from the frigate "Admiral Gorshkov" hit the target at a distance of 450 km, developing a speed of Mach 8 at an altitude of 28 km. At the end of November, Admiral Gorshkov, while in the White Sea, launched a Zircon hypersonic missile at a target in the Barents Sea. According to objective control data, the rocket, having covered 450 km at a speed of more than Mach 8, successfully hit the target.

As the Ministry of Defense previously reported, another test launch of the Zircon hypersonic missile is planned by the end of the year.
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  1. Simon schempp
    Simon schempp 11 December 2020 14: 35
    -70%
    Note that this is the third test of Zircon in recent years.

    And we won't see the video of the hit for the third time.
    1. VORON538
      VORON538 11 December 2020 14: 36
      +47
      Unfortunately, the Russian Defense Ministry does not report to you personally or to the Ukrainian press! lol
      1. Thrall
        Thrall 11 December 2020 14: 41
        +25
        Each "Zircon" jewelry hits exactly the brain of those who lead the NATO military smile
        Let them think and not say afterwards, "What for us?"
        1. Pravodel
          Pravodel 11 December 2020 16: 04
          +1
          Each "Zircon" jewelry goes exactly to the brain .... NATO

          But only 450 km is still not enough. Adding another 550 km would definitely not hurt ...
          1. VORON538
            VORON538 11 December 2020 16: 08
            0
            What if there is KVO 110 km and towards the enemy (as intended)? wink Why such naivety, who will tell you? How much is needed, so many will be voiced, and then again the "partners" for ... torments.
            1. Boa kaa
              Boa kaa 11 December 2020 17: 31
              -13%
              Quote: VORON538
              Why such naivety ...

              In fact, from what !?
              From 4.12. the polar night began in the North. The sun does not appear above the horizon .. And in the video ... a clear day, everything is like with grandma ...
              Lazhestki golimnye ... even the picture can not pick up the correct one, and we are "forbidden to pick our nose" (c)
              1. Leon68
                Leon68 11 December 2020 17: 48
                +12
                Alexander, have you been there for a long time in the North? The sun does not appear, but it does not mean that it is dark, even if you gouge out your eyes. Now in the North, it is exactly the same illumination as in the video.
              2. Paranoid50
                Paranoid50 11 December 2020 19: 33
                +4
                Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
                the polar night began in the North. The sun does not appear over the horizon ...

                So yes, only the North, they are so different. yes Let's say that the same Arkhangelsk is located at 64,53 N, that is, slightly north of St. Petersburg, and we have all the norms with daylight illumination (cloudy gloom does not count). So what about the lazy stuff? wink laughing
                1. Boa kaa
                  Boa kaa 11 December 2020 22: 52
                  +4
                  Quote: Paranoid50
                  So what about the lazy stuff?

                  It was just that it was dark in Severomorsk and Gadzhievo at that time. I did not take into account that even big trees grow in Arkhangelsk ... not like we had on the coast of the Arctic Ocean ... But the fact that it was dark and cold in December - I remember perfectly.
                  Yours faithfully, drinks
                  1. Paranoid50
                    Paranoid50 11 December 2020 22: 56
                    +5
                    Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
                    that in December it was dark and cold - I remember perfectly.

                    Yes, on Kola, now exactly a week has passed since the moment the sun went behind the hills for a month. And now it will appear only in January, the number of 11-12th. I also remember very well this universal darkness full of splendor.
                    The locales are the same: Murmansk, Severomorsk, Olenegorsk. yes
                    Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
                    Yours faithfully,

                    Mutually, hi drinks
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          3. aszzz888
            aszzz888 12 December 2020 01: 38
            +2

            Pravdodel (ppp)
            Yesterday, 16: 04
            NEW

            +1
            Each "Zircon" jewelry goes exactly to the brain .... NATO

            But only 450 km is still not enough. Adding another 550 km would definitely not hurt...
            Already added.
            The second outstanding characteristic of the Zircon missile is its range. It is over 1000 kilometers long. IA Regnum
        2. SovAr238A
          SovAr238A 11 December 2020 19: 22
          -6
          Quote: Thrall
          Each "Zircon" jewelry hits exactly the brain of those who lead the NATO military smile
          Let them think and not say afterwards, "What for us?"


          Well? Did many people get it?
          Announce the entire list of victims ...
          1. aszzz888
            aszzz888 12 December 2020 01: 41
            -1

            SovAr238A (Al)
            Yesterday, 19: 22
            NEW

            -4
            Quote: Thrall
            Each "Zircon" jewelry hits exactly the brain of those who lead the NATO military smile
            Let them think and not say afterwards, "What for us?"


            Well? Did many people get it?
            Announce the entire list of victims ...
            "Still to come!" (from). Let the Natosrovites now have a headache. bully
      2. Machito
        Machito 11 December 2020 14: 43
        +6
        Tremble the enemies: cartoons become reality. The defeat range is not enough. I hope that the short target hitting range is associated with the initial stage of testing, and the actual target hitting range is much higher.
        1. VORON538
          VORON538 11 December 2020 14: 45
          +12
          And who will tell you so immediately the true performance characteristics? Although, on ren-tv from Prokopenko they can lol ... I think that the Europeans have enough range for thoughtfulness ... for a start. hi
          1. Machito
            Machito 11 December 2020 16: 02
            +8
            Prokopenko is a veteran with experience. Having listened to him, I am very much afraid of the Reptilians and Onunaki.
        2. aszzz888
          aszzz888 12 December 2020 01: 43
          +2

          Bearded man (bearded man)
          Yesterday, 14: 43
          NEW

          +6
          Tremble the enemies: cartoons become reality. The defeat range is not enough. I hope that the short target hitting range is associated with the initial stage of testing, and the actual target hitting range is much higher.
          It was officially announced that over 1000 km.
          INTERFAX - New Russian hypersonic missile "Zircon", ... and surface targets at a distance of over 1 kilometers
          The Zircon hypersonic missile will provide ... - IA Regnumregnum.ru ›news› polit
          27 Mar 2020 - The second outstanding feature of the Zircon missile is its range. It is over 1000 kilometers long.
          Something like this.
      3. Hagalaz
        Hagalaz 11 December 2020 15: 49
        +7
        Sobstno and we do not really have to. Under the Soviet Union, they learned about weapons at best on May 9. But it was like that marmot. laughing
    2. Ros 56
      Ros 56 11 December 2020 14: 45
      +6
      With what such joy you should see him, it is not supposed to be like you.
    3. Dodikson
      Dodikson 11 December 2020 14: 46
      +5
      if they wanted to lie, they would let onyx go, which would have gotten and grandfather Pu would have come to you personally and showed this video, they say, look, everything flies and hits.
      and on the topic of the article - the military are working, some of them show the civilians that they would not cry that it was drunk and there was nothing. but they should not report anything detailed to the press
    4. Lipchanin
      Lipchanin 11 December 2020 14: 47
      +5
      Quote: Simon Schempp
      And we won't see the video of the hit for the third time.

      What do you want to see there? How does a pig make a hole in the ground?
      Very interesting
      1. Grits
        Grits 11 December 2020 17: 01
        +5
        Quote: Lipchanin
        What do you want to see there? How does a pig make a hole in the ground?

        For this, the operator still needs to be on duty at the landfill and not miss the moment the blank falls at hypersonic speed
    5. Alex777
      Alex777 11 December 2020 15: 15
      +3
      And we won't see the video of the hit for the third time.

      Simon! Are you a spy? wink
    6. sivuch
      sivuch 11 December 2020 15: 35
      +2
      Yeah. And the missile cut too.
    7. huntsman650
      huntsman650 11 December 2020 15: 50
      -16%
      Cons of the annoyance of a miss)))
    8. Interlocutor
      Interlocutor 11 December 2020 15: 52
      +5
      And we won't see the video of the hit for the third time.


      You will not see in the fourth and in any. Before removing the vultures. The visual picture is chipboard at least. A bunch of conclusions can be drawn from it ... Charge power. Detonation distance. What the hell ... what only experts know.
    9. Normal
      Normal 11 December 2020 17: 55
      +3
      So come with your private car, park and wait. And yes, it is not necessary to pray, you think that the past is all fake? It seems to me that the driver's seat will be wet and smelling.
    10. Piramidon
      Piramidon 11 December 2020 19: 09
      +5
      Quote: Simon Schempp
      we won't see the video of the hit for the third time

      Who is this "WE", and what do you have to do with trials, so that everything will be reported and shown to you?
    11. Incvizitor
      Incvizitor 12 December 2020 02: 38
      +1
      You will be personally shown when they will be stuck.
  2. Sergey39
    Sergey39 11 December 2020 14: 35
    0
    When will the maximum range be shown? Or leave to think?
    1. VORON538
      VORON538 11 December 2020 14: 37
      +3
      Let them reflect on their behavior and think who will get them! hi
      1. Sergey39
        Sergey39 11 December 2020 16: 07
        +3
        Quote: VORON538
        Let them reflect on their behavior and think who will get them!

        I think so too. hi
    2. Ros 56
      Ros 56 11 December 2020 14: 47
      +3
      It will be seen (possibly) by those to whom it is intended, and then we will learn about the range.
    3. Lipchanin
      Lipchanin 11 December 2020 14: 48
      +6
      Quote: Sergey39
      Or leave to think?

      Of course
    4. Alex777
      Alex777 11 December 2020 15: 17
      +3
      When will the maximum range be shown?

      And onyx, for example, did they show you the maximum range? No.
      Only vague guesses are that he can be 800 km. hi
    5. Orange bigg
      Orange bigg 11 December 2020 15: 48
      0
      Quote: Sergey39
      When will the maximum range be shown? Or leave to think?


      I show the maximum range.
      The Zircon missile is the world's first sea-based hypersonic cruise missile, its flight speed reaches eight or nine speeds of sound, the maximum firing range is up to 1000 kilometers.

      https://ria.ru/20201211/tsirkon-1588761814.html
      1. Sergey39
        Sergey39 11 December 2020 16: 05
        0
        Quote: OrangeBigg
        I show the maximum range.

        It's just words.
    6. Interlocutor
      Interlocutor 11 December 2020 15: 53
      +3
      When will the maximum range be shown?

      And what is the range of the tomahawk? The latest version? Or will you also look for numbers from the press and placards?
  3. ioan-e
    ioan-e 11 December 2020 14: 37
    +9
    Now again from behind the hillock and from "our" liberota it will pour out that the rocket is not real! More missiles for armament and more carriers!
    1. VORON538
      VORON538 11 December 2020 14: 38
      +8
      So they had a cinematic bridge to the Crimea
      But he is! hi
      1. ioan-e
        ioan-e 11 December 2020 14: 39
        +4
        Quote: VORON538
        So they had a cinematic bridge to the Crimea
        But he is! hi

        Exactly! hi

    2. Smirnoff
      Smirnoff 11 December 2020 14: 43
      +21
      Quote: ioan-e
      Now again from behind the hillock and from "our" liberota it will pour out that the rocket is not real

      This is MO's answer to recent doubts about Onyx / Zircon. Reacted quickly.
    3. Dodikson
      Dodikson 11 December 2020 14: 47
      +20
      now they will start talking about the fact that the country has fewer pensions than in Norway, and the elderly live less than in Japan, which means that we have neither scientists nor industry, which means there is no one and nothing to create Zircon and all this is a fairy tale.
      I snapped so many minuses from liberalism yesterday on the same topic (Zircon)
      1. unaha
        unaha 11 December 2020 15: 55
        -16%
        "which means that we have neither scientists nor industry" - but do we? Are you arguing the possibility of serious scientific and engineering developments with chronic underfunding, in fact, the absence of private investment in science and an ineffective economy?
        "RIA Novosti. Russia lags significantly behind the leading countries in the world in terms of funding for research and development, and even the implementation of the Nauka national project will not change the situation, since the expenditures on science envisaged in the framework of the national project are insufficient for the innovative development of the economy," the report of the Accounts Chamber of the Russian Federation says. ...
        The auditors analyzed the main reasons hindering scientific development in the Russian Federation, and found that Russia is among the world scientific leaders in only one indicator: the absolute scale of employment in science.
        In terms of the share of spending on science in GDP (1,1%), Russia lags significantly behind the leading countries of the world, being in 34th place. "
        1. Dodikson
          Dodikson 11 December 2020 16: 10
          +8
          Monsieur, if you do not know something, it does not mean that it is not.
          nevertheless, ours recently made the most powerful laser in the world and are among the leaders in the field of thermonuclear fusion and we have every chance to become them in general on the entire planet.
          but people like you, yes, science is bad.
          1. unaha
            unaha 15 December 2020 08: 13
            0
            "For people like us," is it for me and the Accounts Chamber?
    4. Cosm22
      Cosm22 11 December 2020 14: 55
      -25%
      More rockets and delivery vehicles is, of course, not bad.
      But maybe more butter for a larger piece of bread is better?
      If the President of the Russian Federation Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin himself warns the government about the inadmissibility of situations when people do not have enough money for food, and demands that special attention be paid to this?
      1. Dodikson
        Dodikson 11 December 2020 15: 16
        +19
        one has already been noted.
        in the article where the fittings are bought, he will write that the teachers do not have yachts and Maybachs, in the article on the purchase of the Su-57 he will write that the ecology in the reserve in Sumatra is better than ours in the industrial areas, and in the articles on the procurement of the Coalition he will write that Lamborghini is faster than Lada Vesta.
        and all this so that in the minds of the Russians there was only the thought that we are nothing and do not know how to do anything, but under the wise leadership of the liberal we will bloom and smell.
        Well, flowers bloom on the graves and it smells of lilac if it grows there.
        1. Cosm22
          Cosm22 11 December 2020 15: 30
          -25%
          Why are you relegating Russians to the status of nonentities? Or is this status you have - a fix idea?
          Did I talk about it? No. I just cited the statements of the President of the Russian Federation. Do you disagree with him? Try to discuss this topic with Putin in person.
          1. Dodikson
            Dodikson 11 December 2020 15: 56
            +16
            Monsieur, for me the Russian people are the eternal people of the winner, the people of the world champion in war, the people of the conqueror of space, the ocean and the atom.
            and for you, the Russians are barbarians and savages who prevent you from taking over world domination, and that they would interfere with you less, such as you are trying to convince us that we (Russian) are nothing and can do nothing. that's why people like you come to articles about our successes and shit in order to remove pride in our country by throwing shit at the fan.
            For what purpose do you write about the high cost of products in an article on a hypersonic anti-ship missile?
            maybe you should go to articles where they discuss a topic of interest to you, and not shit here?
            Or are you one of those {cut by censorship} that in an article about cars they discuss the taste of donuts, and in an article about aviation composites the problem of yield in the production of Poshekhonsky cheese?
            Do you have an hour when your husband and I have sex do not discuss the problem of reducing the number of Masai ostriches?
      2. Horon
        Horon 11 December 2020 15: 22
        +10
        Then you might be better off going to a site where they talk about weapons, but about butter and bread?
        1. Cosm22
          Cosm22 11 December 2020 15: 35
          -23%
          What should I do better, I decide for myself.
          In this case - to comment on the article, which is in the "News" section, but not in the "Armament" section.
          And to give in the commentary an assessment of the current situation of the President of the Russian Federation, which fits the news as best as possible. Do you disagree with this assessment too?
          1. VORON538
            VORON538 11 December 2020 15: 49
            +15
            The question is that under the previous ruler Boriska there was already a type of oil instead of guns
            And in the end, people did not see either guns or oil
            Both military and civilians survived as best they could
            So shove your pro-Western liberal mantras into yourself ... and deeper! hi
          2. Dodikson
            Dodikson 11 December 2020 15: 57
            +7
            can you tell me where in the title of this news you found the word "products"?
          3. Kart
            Kart 11 December 2020 16: 22
            +6
            Quote: Cosm22
            What should I do better, I decide for myself.

            Uh-huh.
            At home in the family.
            As soon as you go out to the square - be prepared that they will stuff a full panama hat.
          4. El Chuvachino
            El Chuvachino 11 December 2020 17: 13
            +8
            You are doing the most common offtopic, that is, you write off-topic comments and thereby break the rules.
          5. Horon
            Horon 12 December 2020 10: 29
            0
            In fact, this is a site with a military and paramilitary theme, sometimes articles about products and prices are published here, also from the point of view of strategic importance, so your comment would be appropriate there. Everything has its time and place. Here is the news about the launch of the latest rocket, your comment looks more like a flood and provocation. You do not write in the topic about the launch of the newest "Tomahawk" that the Americans would be better off doing medicine and covid rather than spending money on weapons? Why are you writing here about food prices? Something like this!
      3. flicker
        flicker 11 December 2020 16: 03
        +7
        But maybe more butter for a larger piece of bread is better?
        There would be Zircon, but with Zircon we will never be left without oil.
        Others (who do not have Zircon) will remain without oil, while Zircon and I will always be with oil.

        This is for those who cannot imagine life without "more oil". bully
      4. Vlad_20
        Vlad_20 11 December 2020 19: 46
        +1
        Oil is harmful. In general, it is useful to work hard and eat little! wink
    5. Interlocutor
      Interlocutor 11 December 2020 15: 54
      +4
      Now again from behind the hillock and from "our" liberota it will pour out that the rocket is not real!

      It flows right there. What a long way to go ...
    6. venik
      venik 11 December 2020 16: 22
      +9
      Quote: ioan-e
      Now again from behind the hillock and from "our" liberota it will pour out that the rocket is not real!

      =========
      Damn it! Straight from the "tongue"! Well, okay - just "in the suit" had to! drinks

      1. Vaxtovik
        Vaxtovik 11 December 2020 21: 00
        +5
        Quote: venik
        Damn it! Straight from the "tongue"! Well, okay - just "in the suit" had to!

        And I have Volodya too! They will say that these are regular cartoons of the "bloody regime", etc. ..)))) drinks This is how we live our bread. wink
        1. venik
          venik 13 December 2020 22: 25
          0
          Quote: Vaxtovik
          They will say that these are regular cartoons of the "bloody regime", etc. ..)))) drinks

          ========
          There is such a "breed:" Even if you spit in your eyes, all of them will shout: "God's dew!" ... "So long as you don't shy away with Zircon on your forehead, they won't understand! drinks
  4. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 11 December 2020 14: 41
    +4
    Some intruder should be burned
  5. _Ugene_
    _Ugene_ 11 December 2020 14: 44
    +4
    waiting for testing on a moving sea target
    1. Ros 56
      Ros 56 11 December 2020 14: 49
      +4
      You mean Cook or McCain? lol
      1. VORON538
        VORON538 11 December 2020 14: 54
        +2
        At the request of "partners"
        And they have a choice of targets
        However, this will already be the overflow of the war from the cold phase (economic) to the hot (next world)
        So let there be training targets
        Although, if they ask too much, then there will be no opportunity to refuse
  6. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 11 December 2020 14: 51
    +10
    The test was promised on a target simulating an aircraft carrier, this will be a New Year's surprise. Who will show the action of Zircon on the target. If the supersonic old ladies are a destroyer, the inert part, from stern to bow, the deck and superstructure were opened like a can opener, I can imagine what Zirkon does with his 8 .But they won't show us. Are the Americans silent? Terrified by satellite imagery?
    1. Interlocutor
      Interlocutor 11 December 2020 15: 55
      +1
      Even the Americans are silent? Terrified by satellite imagery?

      Why leaks of a working thing ... If only a jamb ...
  7. zwlad
    zwlad 11 December 2020 15: 03
    +7
    Hehe. Our response to launching their ax is block 5.
  8. cniza
    cniza 11 December 2020 15: 06
    +6
    As the Ministry of Defense previously reported, another test launch of the Zircon hypersonic missile is planned by the end of the year.


    Now the "partners" will raise a howl ...
    1. Dodikson
      Dodikson 11 December 2020 15: 21
      +6
      they will first raise a howl in comments. a herd of their bots grazes here.
      expect here a burst of comments in the style of "these are all cartoons", "it would be better if new hospitals were built", "we do not have science and scientists, where can there be new technologies?" ...
    2. Vaxtovik
      Vaxtovik 11 December 2020 21: 07
      +4
      Quote: cniza
      Now the "partners" will raise a howl ...

      Victor has already been raised in England that Russia is preparing for war and is threatening them)))
      And we do not threaten the Russians, we are simply defending ourselves from your military bases around Russia and other world persecution ... There are many questions for you, after the 80-90s there have been accumulated .. And especially now! We are waiting for an answer on the merits, if not, then your problems are "gentlemen usurers and other brethren."
  9. Nikolaevich I
    Nikolaevich I 11 December 2020 15: 06
    -5
    It was much longer last time! negative
    1. seregin-s1
      seregin-s1 11 December 2020 15: 15
      +3
      But disappeared into the clouds!) It seems it was at the minimum range.
  10. Muromec
    Muromec 11 December 2020 15: 10
    +9
    Well done for the Navy and our designers! No wonder the Anglo-Saxons screamed to the whole world, supposedly Russia is preparing for war! We are preparing to defend ourselves, surrounded us from all sides and are still cynically indignant ... Remove the military bases around Russia and stop stirring up conflicts on our borders and you will be happy ..
  11. Ural resident
    Ural resident 11 December 2020 15: 14
    +1
    Quote: Simon Schempp
    Note that this is the third test of Zircon in recent years.

    And we won't see the video of the hit for the third time.

    See soon
  12. Yaro Polk
    Yaro Polk 11 December 2020 15: 33
    +5
    At night, this stripe in the sky would look more spectacular)
  13. Kolin
    Kolin 11 December 2020 15: 46
    +6
    But our brave Likorchev lover has just proved that no such "Zircons" exist!
    The regime's cunning knows no boundaries recourse
  14. kot11180
    kot11180 11 December 2020 15: 47
    +3
    Today in the armament there was an article "Onyx" instead of "Zircon" in which it was said that Onyx was allegedly at the last launch - the air intake cover detachable in flight was seen in the video. This time it’s not visible. And the trajectory is different.
    1. Thorvlobnor IV
      Thorvlobnor IV 11 December 2020 16: 21
      0
      Reach 8M at 350km? It probably didn't go without magic.
  15. Kushka
    Kushka 11 December 2020 16: 52
    -1
    Quote: Yaro Polk
    At night, this stripe in the sky would look more spectacular)

    For the effects in Rostov it was necessary.
    That's where the babble is!
  16. fa2998
    fa2998 11 December 2020 17: 52
    -7
    Quote: Bearded
    Tremble the enemies: cartoons become reality.

    Let's think realistically and weighed. What they experienced there, only the announcer tells us. And you can tell how many, a carriage and a cart. "Experienced the death star."
    What we see is a standard launch from an air defense missile, using a rocket accelerator. We have already seen such, (for example, on American destroyers). What they launched there, an air defense missile or something else, it is not at all clear, everything is unfounded. hi
  17. Connor MacLeod
    Connor MacLeod 11 December 2020 17: 56
    +2
    There would be more carriers ... repeat
    1. Vaxtovik
      Vaxtovik 11 December 2020 20: 47
      +4
      Quote: Connor MacLeod
      There would be more carriers ... repeat

      And these are enough, if that. hi .In the arms race, Russia will not be promoted, like the USSR! There is something to bang, and the rest will follow .. Here the main thing is not quantity, but quality and also the morale of the people, which Nazi Germany did not take into account .. Everyone calculated, but forgot the main thing, like Napoleon, etc.
      You can't understand Russia with your mind, you can't measure it with an yardstick! hi They are afraid of this, you look at the map of the world and Russia with a population of 140 million. and this territory has been controlled for 1000 years !!! Well, it sometimes decreases, but then it becomes even stronger and more .. Such is the case with us military historians
  18. Old26
    Old26 11 December 2020 18: 05
    0
    Quote: The Truth
    Each "Zircon" jewelry goes exactly to the brain .... NATO

    But only 450 km is still not enough. Adding another 550 km would definitely not hurt ...

    It is quite enough for the anti-ship missile. The issues of target designation are solved more simply, and the time for interception for the adversary is reduced. Although the surface ship-carrier "Zircon" becomes a "suicide bomber" in a conflict with the United States. For others it is quite enough

    Quote: Gritsa
    Quote: Lipchanin
    What do you want to see there? How does a pig make a hole in the ground?

    For this, the operator still needs to be on duty at the landfill and not miss the moment the blank falls at hypersonic speed

    The speed will no longer be hypersonic ... Although it will be possible to "catch" ...

    Quote: Sergey39
    When will the maximum range be shown? Or leave to think?

    Will show. tests also provide for launches to the maximum range.
    Quote: Alex777
    And onyx, for example, did they show you the maximum range? No.
    Only vague guesses are that he can be 800 km.

    The fact that they are now talking about the creation of "Onyx-M" with a range of 800 km does not mean at all that the current range has such a range. Shoigu announced the maximum range of "Onyx" for land (and sea) targets after its use in Syria

    Quote: Dodikson
    now they will start talking about the fact that the country has fewer pensions than in Norway, and the elderly live less than in Japan, which means that we have neither scientists nor industry, which means there is no one and nothing to create Zircon and all this is a fairy tale.
    I snapped so many minuses from liberalism yesterday on the same topic (Zircon)

    And not only from liberation. And also from your, sorry, denseness in the field of materiel

    Quote: _Ugene_
    waiting for testing on a moving sea target

    Everything has its time. Most likely, such launches will take place next year. In this, it seems, they planned another launch from Severodvinsk (though it is not clear whether from the surface or submerged position)

    Quote: Ros 56
    You mean Cook or McCain? lol

    Well, if there is a desire to receive a New Year's gift and warm up from a nuclear fire, then no objection laughing

    Quote: kot11180
    Today in the armament there was an article "Onyx" instead of "Zircon" in which it was said that Onyx was allegedly at the last launch - the air intake cover detachable in flight was seen in the video. This time it’s not visible. And the trajectory is different.

    The trajectory, especially the initial phase, is the same. It's just that during the last test, the product went into the clouds, and now there is also a couple of seconds of solid fuel accelerator operation

    Quote: Torvlobnor IV
    Reach 8M at 350km? It probably didn't go without magic.

    Is the speed of 8M and the range of 350 km somehow directly related?
    1. tlauicol
      tlauicol 11 December 2020 18: 50
      +2
      Sorry, are you suggesting a starter motor + solid fuel + hyperreactive? and all this in one product and in the UKSK?
  19. Vaxtovik
    Vaxtovik 11 December 2020 19: 51
    +4
    What can I say, guys, the West screeches terribly from the "Russian threat" .. God knows we did not specifically develop this weapon to threaten .. We are trying to defend ourselves and will ALWAYS do it! Withdraw military bases from the borders of Russia and then we will talk on equal terms. Do you want war? You will have a war of destruction ..
    Russia, like no other country in the world, knows what a Patriotic war is and not for the grandmother and resources of the oligarchy .. But simply, Get up, a huge country, get up to mortal battle!
    All this in our souls was, is and will be .. Want to check? hi
  20. Old26
    Old26 11 December 2020 20: 27
    +1
    Quote: Tlauicol
    Sorry, are you suggesting a starter motor + solid fuel + hyperreactive? and all this in one product and in the UKSK?

    Why not, comrade. The starter is inside, like onyx. Next is a solid fuel accelerator. And finally the rocket itself. We don't know how long each component is. EMNIP launcher 3S14 - 9,5 m. Let the hypersonic missile itself be 3,5-4 meters. the rest is an accelerator! Why not. The same American unit X-51 had a length of something in the region of 7,5 m
    1. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 11 December 2020 21: 07
      +2
      "Let the hypersonic missile itself be 3,5-4 meters" ///
      ----
      Little is real. To put the engine, warhead and control unit in 4 m?
      Or Zircon without a warhead - beats with a kinetic blow?
      1. aszzz888
        aszzz888 12 December 2020 01: 45
        -1

        voyaka uh (Alexey)
        Yesterday, 21: 07
        NEW

        -1
        "Let the hypersonic missile itself be 3,5-4 meters" ///
        ----Little is real... To put the engine, warhead and control unit in 4 m?
        Or Zircon without a warhead - beats with a kinetic blow?
        Another doubter ... tongue laughing wassat
  21. MinskFox
    MinskFox 11 December 2020 22: 09
    0
    Now Kaptsov will come running and say that Onyx has been launched again, this can be seen in the video. By the way, something on the vidosik ripped off a lot of things from the rocket, maybe the look is not like Onyx's, but just the rocket leaves the mine in the TPK, so no one knows the real look, except for those who are supposed to.
  22. CastroRuiz
    CastroRuiz 11 December 2020 22: 36
    -1
    A kde obeshchanikh 1000 km?
  23. Prax1
    Prax1 11 December 2020 22: 56
    -4
    Well, somehow it was not very impressed, I thought they were faster than lit, but as if an ordinary rocket was launched
  24. Old26
    Old26 11 December 2020 23: 24
    +1
    Quote: MinskFox
    Now Kaptsov will come running and say that Onyx has been launched again, this can be seen in the video. By the way, something on the vidosik ripped off a lot of things from the rocket, maybe the look is not like Onyx's, but just the rocket leaves the mine in the TPK, so no one knows the real look, except for those who are supposed to.

    I drew something like that once. What was dropped there was the following: the aerodynamic fairing cover and side flaps of the same fairing (which covered the entire chisel-shaped nose of the rocket and its bucket-shaped air intake with a "cylinder". Moreover, they could not be dropped immediately in one second, but somewhat stretched out in time: 4-6 seconds. Then they are not visible on the video. And from the TPK comes a banal "cylinder" with a hemispherical lid
    Quote: voyaka uh
    "Let the hypersonic missile itself be 3,5-4 meters" ///
    ----
    Little is real. To put the engine, warhead and control unit in 4 m?
    Or Zircon without a warhead - beats with a kinetic blow?

    Well, you don't like 4 meters, let's assume that the length of the rocket itself is 5 meters. The length of the TPK is 8,9 meters, that is, almost 9 meters. the solid propellant booster will be about 4 meters long.
    The same "Onyx" has a solid propellant charge about 3,2-3,4 meters long. At the same time, it accelerates the rocket to a speed of 6,4M. Here, in order for the missile's hypersonic ramjet to launch, a speed of about 4,5-4,8M is needed. The dimensions of the fuel stick and its weight may be less than on the same "Dagger" / "Iskander"

    Both the engine and fuel can be placed in a 5-meter rocket, and the warhead and control system can be placed in the chisel nose.
    1. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 12 December 2020 02: 33
      +1
      "and in the chisel-shaped nose - warhead and control system." ///
      ----
      Doesn't this chisel-shaped nose get warm at hyperspeed?
      to mind-boggling temperatures? The control system will burn inside her,
      perhaps. recourse And the warhead can explode from overheating.
      The Americans did not have warheads at all, and the control unit was closer to the tail.
  25. Old26
    Old26 12 December 2020 00: 41
    +1
    Quote: Prax1
    Well, somehow it was not very impressed, I thought they were faster than lit, but as if an ordinary rocket was launched

    Well, after all, the speed is gained not in half a second. The Onyx launcher, for example, accelerates the Onyx to a speed of 2M in 5 seconds (to a height of about 200 meters). Approximately the same happens with the "Zircon" at the start. Well, the solid propellant is already accelerating the rocket to a speed of 5M (but already beyond the sight of video cameras)
    1. tlauicol
      tlauicol 12 December 2020 04: 46
      +1
      The camera took a long time to shoot. The solid fuel tank no longer worked towards the end of the video. Especially outside the video
    2. tlauicol
      tlauicol 12 December 2020 05: 08
      +1
      in the dry residue we have:
      1.Iskander, Dagger accelerate to max. at heights where the work of the GPRVD is impossible. And not until 8mah.
      2.X-51 7.5m long .8max did not master (5max). Start from 15 km. Payload ZERO (including even guidance systems)
      3. Now a bunch of extra meters and tons must be shoved into the UKSK. Or make a scramjet, warhead and SSN the size of a thimble
  26. Old26
    Old26 12 December 2020 15: 30
    0
    Quote: voyaka uh
    "and in the chisel-shaped nose - warhead and control system." ///
    ----
    Doesn't this chisel-shaped nose get warm at hyperspeed?
    to mind-boggling temperatures? The control system will burn inside her,
    perhaps. recourse And the warhead can explode from overheating.
    The Americans did not have warheads at all, and the control unit was closer to the tail.

    The point is, Alexey, that none of the writers (including myself) can give those boundary conditions for the onset of plasma formation (or, as you say, "warming up to mind-blowing temperatures") at altitudes of almost 30 km and at an appropriate speed.
    Otherwise, there is no need to create a missile for which the seeker cannot work and warheads will explode. Now, if from such a height the rocket begins to dive with the engine running, warming up to very high temperatures - then yes, one could talk about the combustion of the SU and the explosion of the warhead.
    But NOT ONE ammunition that has hyperspeed to the ground at altitudes does not fit at the same speed. For example, Iskander. The maximum speed of 2,1 km (at an altitude of 40 km, and this is the apogee) is 6,2M. And it approaches the ground at a speed of 700-800 m / s (2,1-2,4M).

    I don’t think that our first "Zircons" already have ready-made warheads. Most likely the main computer. As for the SU - perhaps you are right, and we also have it closer to the tail, and not in the "chisel". After all, this is only our reasoning, which does not have data in the form of real documents, diagrams, etc.

    Quote: Tlauicol
    The camera took a long time to shoot. The solid fuel tank no longer worked towards the end of the video. Especially outside the video

    In this video (if it matches the last test) yes, the operating time is about 20 seconds ± ...
    In the video of other tests - the rocket went into the clouds and it is not known how long the booster worked.

    Quote: Tlauicol
    in the dry residue we have:
    1.Iskander, Dagger accelerate to max. at heights where the work of the GPRVD is impossible. And not until 8mah.

    Counter questions
    1. At what height can a hypersonic ramjet start to work?
    2. At what altitude does the Iskander reach its maximum speed?

    A) The maximum speed of the Iskander reaches 6,2M
    B) The maximum speed of the "Dagger" reaches EMNIP more than 9M
    C) The maximum speed of the "Dagger", taking into account that it is launched at an altitude of about 18 km, reaches even higher altitudes than the one at which the "Zircon" is tested

    Quote: Tlauicol
    2.X-51 7.5m long .8max did not master (5max). Start from 15 km. Payload ZERO (including even guidance systems)

    1. As far as I remember, the Americans did not plan to reach speeds of 7M and higher.
    2. Start yes, at an altitude of EMNIP 15,2 km, marching altitude - EMNIP either 20,5 km, or 22,5.
    3. As for PN and SN - I do not know, I have not met such materials, I would be grateful if they gave a "tip" to the material where this is said

    Quote: Tlauicol
    3. Now a bunch of extra meters and tons must be shoved into the UKSK. Or make a scramjet, warhead and SSN the size of a thimble

    No comment. But I think that nothing extra, not in meters or in kg, will have to be crammed into the UKSK. IMHO