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Erdogan named countries that can enter the platform for peace and development in the South Caucasus

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Turkish news agencies are disseminating the speech of President Erdogan, who on the eve of the delegation attended a military parade in Baku and held a personal meeting with Ilham Aliyev. In his speech, the Turkish president criticized the actions, or rather the "inaction", of the Minsk Group for resolving the situation in Nagorno-Karabakh.


Recep Tayyip Erdogan:

What has the Minsk Group been doing all these years? Why did the issue of the Karabakh problem take so long? But this group includes the strongest countries in the world.

According to the Turkish President, "the negotiations with the Russian President played an important role."

Turkish leader:

I can say with confidence that Mr. Putin's positive approaches to solving the problem helped to move the Karabakh issue off the ground in a positive direction.

According to Erdogan, now the region needs to create a platform for peace and development in the South Caucasus. This platform, according to Ankara, should include all regional powers: Azerbaijan, Armenia, Georgia, Russia, Iran and Turkey itself.

Erdogan:

We offer Armenia to join this process. We could close the doors to Armenia, stop even offering dialogue, but we are committed to peace, stable development and security of the region.

Then Erdogan stated that "Turkey has no grudge against the people of Armenia."

Turkish President:

More than 100 thousand ethnic Armenians live in our country today. So let's do everything for the world to triumph. Let's take steps towards each other. We are ready for this.

After Erdogan attacked France with criticism. In his words, the decision of the French Senate with a resolution on the recognition of Karabakh as a sovereign state "looks unacceptable."

Erdogan:

This is not a constructive decision. Why are you doing this if even Pashinyan (Karabakh) does not recognize it?
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  1. Profiler
    Profiler 11 December 2020 08: 01
    +1
    According to Erdogan, now the region needs to create a platform for peace and development in the South Caucasus. This platform, according to Ankara, should include all regional powers: Azerbaijan, Armenia, Georgia, Russia, Iran and Turkey itself.


    Here, Erdogan's pocket is wider yes

    Do you count on the fact that by our participation in the format you are planning, we will legitimize your presence in the region?

    ShchaZ yes
    1. Evil543
      Evil543 11 December 2020 08: 08
      +23
      I propose to include Kurdistan.
      1. Profiler
        Profiler 11 December 2020 08: 10
        -2
        Quote: Evil543
        I propose to include Kurdistan.

        I don’t remember from geography, to the territory called Kurdistan, is there an exit through a part of Turkey located on the European continent?
        1. Mykhalych
          Mykhalych 11 December 2020 08: 43
          +1
          Quote: Profiler
          I don’t remember from geography, to the territory called Kurdistan, is there an exit through a part of Turkey located on the European continent?

          From wikipedia (well, for self-education):Kurdistan, divided between four states - Turkey, Iran, Iraq and Syria, does not have certain natural (natural) borders. In addition to the Kurds proper, the region is also home to Azerbaijanis, Arabs, Armenians, Assyrians, Persians, Turks and Turkomans; until the middle of the XNUMXth century, there were also many Jews who subsequently immigrated to Israel. hi
          1. Tatyana
            Tatyana 11 December 2020 15: 48
            0
            Then Erdogan stated that "Turkey has no grudge against the people of Armenia."

            Why should Turkey be offended by the Armenians?
            It’s not the Armenians, but Turkey owes the Armenians for the genocide of the Armenians by the Ottoman Turks in 1915-1918, and Turkey has forgiven itself these genocide debts to the Armenians for a long time - more than 100 years ago - instead of the Armenians themselves!
            1. DAQ
              DAQ 11 December 2020 17: 03
              +1
              Then Erdogan stated that "Turkey has no grudge against the people of Armenia."

              Why should Turkey be offended by the Armenians?

              He just trolls Armenia. Pours salt on the wounds.
            2. Albay
              Albay 12 December 2020 00: 45
              0
              Tatiana the trouble of most of you is bias towards Turkey and in general in turkophobia. All more or less literate historians, including Russians, unequivocally, on the basis of historical documents, argue that there was no "genocide". This is just an instrument of political pressure on Turkey. For 30 For years, Turkey has offered to open archives and study together everything that happened, the Armenians refuse, because they know that there is no prospect of proving their statements. Here is the opinion of Doctor of Historical Sciences Burlakov and other historians on this issue.
              https://youtu.be/OVVSNBeNDJM
              1. Tatyana
                Tatyana 12 December 2020 12: 02
                +1
                Quote: Albay (Alibek)
                Tatiana the trouble for most of you is your bias towards Turkey and turkophobia in general. All more or less literate historians, including Russians, unequivocally, on the basis of historical documents, argue that there was no "genocide". This is just an instrument of political pressure on Turkey. For 30 years, Turkey has offered to open archives and study together everything that happened, the Armenians refuse, because they know that there are no prospects to prove their statements.
                Dear Alibek! The Turks are also manipulating you. Moreover. You yourself do not reason logically, even in principle, because in Turkish, the Armenian genocide simply could not be !!! And we, the Russians, were even convinced of this by the example of Turkey's actions in the SAR (Syria).
                And for this, you don't even have to go far for logic - just turn to Islam itself.
                REFERENCE
                "Islam" means "obedience".
                And the author of the idea of ​​WORLD MUSLIM DOMINANCE was the prophet Muhammad, who in 622 in Medina founded the first Muslim ummah.
                Muhammad divided the whole world into three large parts.
                First - "dar al-islam" - included Islamized countries with the DOMINATION OF SHARIAT
                The second part of the world was named "dar al-kufr"That is, A TERRITORY OF THE UNBELIEVED, where other religions prevailed and Islam had to live quietly and unnoticed.
                But in the third part of the world - "dar al-harb", that is, the TERRITORY OF WAR - Islam was obliged to use the methods of jihad to include this territory in the blessed world of "the gift of al-Islam."
                TOTAL. Islam has historically initially bore a Militant religious-missionary GLOBALIST character.
                For details see - https://zen.yandex.ru/media/istok/kto-avtor-idei-mirovogo-musulmanskogo-gospodstva-5fb380c97eb1fe4ba0788440

                So, about the fact that St. Petersburg is the TERRITORY OF THE INFALOUS, 2 years ago, a 17-year-old schoolboy, a 2nd generation migrant from Central Asia, told me about this on the street, saying that St. Petersburg belongs to Muslims and is only held by Russians in temporary use. When I asked why so, he answered with a grin that their religion tells them so.
                And the TERRITORY OF WAR for the Turks, for example, is Syria, namely the SAR, in which, under the patronage of Erdogan and Turkey, ISIS was taking care of with its ISIS members.
                TERRITORY OF WAR for Erdogan is the Russian Crimea.
                Your people tell me
                So Erdogan is "Muslim brothers", not "igil", and we have trouble with the latter. They can use Turkey, Georgia, Azerbaijan, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Uzbekistan, Tajikistan, Turkmenistan, but it is silly to say that these countries are behind them. The owner of ISIS is well known to everyone ...
                You are simply wildly mistaken about the neo-Ottoman Islamist Erdogan, who rushes about with his political and ideological bag-dream - the formation of Turan!
                The named Islamist movements are links in the same chain that serve the same revanchist globalist chain of Islam and Islamists, led by Turkey and Erdogan.
                1. Albay
                  Albay 12 December 2020 20: 31
                  0
                  Tatyana, I gave you to get acquainted with the opinions of learned historians. The Turks cannot manipulate us, we perfectly know the insides of the Armenian Dashnaks. When the Eduardy Grigoryans killed and raped Armenians in Sumgait to accuse us of massacres. We remember very well what massacres in our cities and villages in 1905,1918, In 90, the Armenian fascists organized, killing Azerbaijanis, Lezgins, Avars in tens of thousands. We also remember Khojaly and other mass atrocities of Armenians in the XNUMXs.
              2. Tatyana
                Tatyana 12 December 2020 12: 15
                +1
                As for the Great Turan, it is the brainchild of London and Tel Aviv.
                Map of Great Turan.

                The newspaper "Turkey" in October 2020 proposed to form a united pan-Turkist army to defend the interests of the Muslim-Turkic world, provoking a clash of ethno-religious contradictions in the Muslim East. The publication as part of the Turan army sees not only Turkey and Azerbaijan, but also Uzbekistan, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Turkmenistan, Tajikistan. The provocation is clearly directed by its edge, first of all, against the Islamic Republic of Iran, China and the Russian Federation.

                As you know, Tajikistan, geohistorically remaining a part of the Indo-European, Iranian (Farsi-lingual) world, has nothing to do with the Turkic ecumene. A significant part of the population in Uzbekistan, primarily in the years. Samarkand and Bukhara also consider themselves to be the descendants of the Indo-Europeans.

                Central Asia is the sphere of traditional interests of the Russian Federation, but today not only Turkey but also China, which is especially active in Tajikistan and Kazakhstan, is actively penetrating there.

                The newspaper "Turkey" did not include a number of countries and peoples in the Pan-Turkic army, although it can be assumed that in this way it would be possible to attract the power structures of Albania, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Turkish Cyprus, the Turks of Georgian Adjara, the Russian Volga region and the North Caucasus, Crimea, Gagauzia and others. The publication clearly gives the desired by Erdogan's clique as real, which no longer hesitates to openly declare the ideas of Ottomanism, Pan-Turkism, Pan-Islamism in the world.

                See details. - https://politinform.su/128018-velikij-turan-detische-londona-i-tel-aviva.html
      2. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 11 December 2020 08: 43
        0
        Quote: Evil543
        I propose to include Kurdistan.

        Reasonable offer.
    2. Lech from Android.
      Lech from Android. 11 December 2020 08: 27
      +2
      Here, Erdogan's pocket is wider

      And he keeps ... the appetite is growing against the background of the military defeat of Armenia.
      Turkish TV to Armenians: "Either $ 50 billion, or give land to Azerbaijan"
      The compensation is estimated at 50 billion. But! Armenia has no money. I say: Zangezur

      https://topcor.ru/17740-tureckoe-tv-armjanam-libo-50-mlrd-dollarov-libo-otdavajte-zemli-azerbajdzhanu.html?utm_source=politobzor.net
    3. figwam
      figwam 11 December 2020 09: 03
      -1
      Quote: Profiler
      ShchaZ

      Yes, he wants to climb with arms and legs.
    4. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
      Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 11 December 2020 09: 27
      +3
      Quote: Profiler
      Here, Erdogan's pocket is wider
      ShchaZ

      He already there, kind. You were late with your couch threats. This is the first thing. And secondly, the Turks are no less appropriate in this company than the Persians, don't you think?
      1. Grits
        Grits 11 December 2020 14: 16
        +4
        Quote: Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
        He's already there, dear. You were late with your couch threats. This is the first thing. And secondly, the Turks are no less appropriate in this company than the Persians, don't you think?

        For all my rejection of Turkey and Erdogan, in particular, it seems to me that Erdogan said everything extremely correctly. It is these states that must solve the problems of the Caucasus and adjacent territories. And not France, Germany, and even more so, not overseas "partners". True, Erdogan forgot about two more small, recognized by us countries - South Ossetia and Abkhazia.
    5. sniperino
      sniperino 11 December 2020 11: 41
      +2
      Quote: Profiler
      Do you count on the fact that by our participation in the format you are planning, we will legitimize your presence in the region?
      Has anyone declared the illegitimacy of his presence in the region? Didn't hear.
  2. tTshka
    tTshka 11 December 2020 08: 09
    +7
    Too much Yrdagan lately ...
    1. Egoza
      Egoza 11 December 2020 08: 14
      0
      Quote: tTshka
      Too much Yrdagan lately ...

      Well, he was going to quarrel with NATO. So he is looking for possible allies, i.e. offended that they have not yet been accepted there. So she sings like a nightingale!
  3. stalki
    stalki 11 December 2020 08: 11
    +2
    Oh and the fox, oh and the cunning one. Everything is in the traditions of the East.
  4. Vladimir61
    Vladimir61 11 December 2020 08: 13
    +8
    Some strange game of good and bad. And all this while performing at the same venue in Baku.
    Erdogan! Suddenly he started talking about - "peace and stable development and security of the region."
    And what about Aliev? Something like this - "do not forget about their historical lands" and return Yerevan. “This should become the direction of our future activity, as we are now working in this direction. Our historical lands are the Iravan Khanate, Zangezur, Goyche (Zangezur is Syunik, that is, the eastern and northeastern regions of Armenia, and Goyche is Lake Sevan "
    1. Grits
      Grits 11 December 2020 14: 18
      0
      Quote: Vladimir61
      And what about Aliev? Something like this - "do not forget about their historical lands" and return Yerevan. “This should become the direction of our future activity, as we are now working in this direction. Our historical lands are the Iravan Khanate, Zangezur, Goyche (Zangezur is Syunik, that is, the eastern and northeastern regions of Armenia, and Goyche is Lake Sevan "

      The appetite flared amid the dizziness of success.
    2. noxange
      noxange 11 December 2020 14: 45
      +2
      Why are you spreading misinformation? ))) Aliyev did not say a word about the seizure of the territories of Armenia. He spoke about the fact that historically the majority of Azerbaijanis lived in Yerevan and Zangezur, but they were forced to leave their homes amid the conflict! Of course, I understand that it is fashionable to pour the mill on the arm. propaganda, but not to the same extent))
  5. LiSiCyn
    LiSiCyn 11 December 2020 08: 14
    +3
    This is not a constructive decision. Why are you doing this if even Pashinyan (Karabakh) does not recognize it?
    laughing Trolling 80 leveled ...
    Here is another Axis looming. Erdogan, the Turks will remember. In any case, for Turkey, he is a significant figure.
  6. askort154
    askort154 11 December 2020 08: 14
    +2
    This platform, according to Ankara, should include all regional powers: Azerbaijan, Armenia, Georgia, Russia, Iran and Turkey itself.

    And Turkey itself - "with a brick in its bosom."
    1. Lech from Android.
      Lech from Android. 11 December 2020 08: 29
      +3
      And Turkey itself - "with a brick in its bosom."

      God forbid from such an ally.
      1. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
        Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 11 December 2020 09: 40
        +9
        Quote: Lech from Android.
        God forbid from such an ally.

        Who do you see as an ally in this list? And, by the way, Turkey does not cram Russia into any allies. It's not about the bloc, but about joint regional management. And since the Turks have entered this sensitive region for themselves (in every sense, including the historical one), Russia will have to come to terms with this and build relations based on a new format. DO NOT spot Turkey in this region already will not work.
    2. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 11 December 2020 08: 51
      -2
      Quote: askort154
      all regional powers should enter: Azerbaijan, Armenia, Georgia, Russia, Iran and Turkey itself.

      Russia, Iran and Turkey are independent players, in Georgia there are about 700 ethnic Azerbaijanis and 000 ethnic Turks. Armenia only remains, as is the modern Russian Empire to stick to Russia. But in the words of Erdogan, there is a reason. You can cut off the US oxygen a bit
      1. Pavlos Melas
        Pavlos Melas 11 December 2020 09: 36
        +4
        Quote: tihonmarine
        Quote: askort154
        all regional powers should enter: Azerbaijan, Armenia, Georgia, Russia, Iran and Turkey itself.

        Russia, Iran and Turkey are independent players, in Georgia there are about 700 ethnic Azerbaijanis and 000 ethnic Turks. Armenia only remains, as is the modern Russian Empire to stick to Russia. But in the words of Erdogan, there is a reason. You can cut off the US oxygen a bit

        It is true, but in Turkey, according to various sources, from half a million to 3 million Georgians live as Kartvels and Laz (closely related to Mingrelians), they are Muslims. As the Armenians assert up to a million crypto-Armenians, the Hemshils, the Muslims, still quite officially live there. Minorities are everywhere, it is important which states are more stable and economically stable. In my opinion, Armenians should digest this defeat and take off their rose-colored glasses. There are no exceptional peoples and permanent allies, there are partners and permanent interests. Today's advantage may be a vulnerable part tomorrow if problems are not approached soberly. hi
      2. sniperino
        sniperino 11 December 2020 11: 48
        +1
        Quote: tihonmarine
        But in the words of Erdogan, there is a reason.
        A constructive proposal that squeezes the influence of France, Britain, the United States out of the region.
  7. rocket757
    rocket757 11 December 2020 08: 14
    +5
    What has the Minsk Group been doing all these years? Why did the issue of the Karabakh problem take so long? But this group includes the strongest countries in the world.

    The Sultan is right as never before!
    The big ones are busy with their maneuvers, they muddy the impenetrable for any reason! But it is necessary, Schaub came one greyhound "hooligan" and the whole thing to stir up ...
    Let's see, in short, what and how he succeeds.
    1. nobody75
      nobody75 11 December 2020 08: 23
      -5
      Let's see, in short, what and how he succeeds.

      In Karabakh, in fact, Turkey did little ... A swing for a ruble is a blow for a penny. Therefore, the NATO curators of this whole war are unhappy. To such an extent that they forced RAND to carry out simulation and war games at the Black Sea theater of operations ... What do you personally think? Who is more pythonic than RAND or, um, me?
      Sincerely
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 11 December 2020 08: 33
        +3
        Let's just say, looking at the Sultan, there is no such feeling that he is a player with well-thought-out long-term plans and for a long time .... Gulen looked much thoughtful. That sho the sultan appropriated and is trying to use the inheritance of his former comrade-in-arms, this is obvious ...
        Therefore, it is worth looking into the perspective of what and who will succeed.
        In short, the east is so ... murky. It is necessary to delve into the topic very much in order to somehow figure it out. I'm not in the subject, I listen to more knowledgeable specialists.
        1. nobody75
          nobody75 11 December 2020 08: 41
          +1
          After the virtual "play", RAND has already identified the weak links of the NATO "community" in the Black Sea. These are Turkey and Bulgaria. It is them that Sauron will be able to intimidate, bribe, deceive and ... break the resistance of NATO without resorting to military force. In this particular case, my factor analysis coincides with their simulation, which is extremely rare. So Turkey and Bulgaria are the countries where "velvet revolutions" await us in the very near future. And all in the name of freedom of navigation!
          Sincerely
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 11 December 2020 09: 01
            +2
            Quote: nobody75
            So Turkey and Bulgaria are the countries where "velvet revolutions" await us in the very near future. And all in the name of freedom of navigation!

            Rightly noted ... serious people speak on this topic, BUT, let's not rush and make categorical statements, because events are written, planned, created, already, in different centers !!! Therefore, fluctuations are possible, quirks in any unexpected direction.
            1. nobody75
              nobody75 11 December 2020 10: 47
              +1
              You are like Nassim Taleb ... He also criticizes me for my adherence to "mathematical prophecies". Says, "Don't shoot the Black Swans." And for me all this is "Mind Games", as well as predicting the USD rate for a decade ahead ... Piece of cake.
              Sincerely
              1. rocket757
                rocket757 11 December 2020 11: 08
                +1
                So many people, so many opinions.
                Quote: nobody75
                He also criticizes me for

                I do not criticize, I argue, to the best of what is known, I express my point of view.
                It's okay, we just exchange opinions ...
                I read the forecasts of analysts from RAND ... they do not seem to me the only correct ones, this is THEIR vision of the problems.
                1. nobody75
                  nobody75 11 December 2020 11: 12
                  +1
                  And I am grateful to you for that! You are at least interested in something other than money! Thank you for that! And some others ... I already do not want to communicate with them ...
                  Sincerely
                  1. rocket757
                    rocket757 11 December 2020 11: 20
                    +1
                    As taught, be a sane person ... it is always important.
          2. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
            Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 11 December 2020 09: 47
            -1
            Quote: nobody75
            So Turkey and Bulgaria are the countries where "velvet revolutions" await us in the very near future.

            I doubt something very much about "velvet" in Turkey. It will not be possible to dump the autocrat Erdi by simply going out onto the streets of the creative class and tweeting, kmk.
            1. nobody75
              nobody75 11 December 2020 10: 49
              +1
              Who knows ... who knows ... The military do not like Erdagan ... They, in the majority, are Gulenists ...
              Sincerely
              1. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
                Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 11 December 2020 11: 49
                +1
                Quote: nobody75
                Erdagan's military do not like ...

                that's what I'm talking about - where the military, there cannot be "velvet")
    2. Lech from Android.
      Lech from Android. 11 December 2020 08: 30
      +1
      greyhound "bully"

      And what if a big uncle comes and gets angry with the fulyugan and starts to teach him with a belt? what
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 11 December 2020 08: 37
        +6
        It is difficult to predict now who we have at all, at all, big, that can simply come and slap everyone on the belt or break off the horns.
        Those who were considered big burglars are stuck in their internal affairs and when they get out from there, some undertake to predict, but to get into the top ten is unlikely.
  8. parusnik
    parusnik 11 December 2020 08: 16
    +6
    Erdogan, proposes to share the Transcaucasia with Russia and Iran. You influence Armenia, and I really will, I will shoulder a heavy burden, I will influence Azerbaijan and Georgia. In principle, everything is correct. A holy place is never empty. Could not organize in the CIS, now you will get everything ... Let me remind you that Armenia and Azerbaijan are members of the said Commonwealth.
  9. Ros 56
    Ros 56 11 December 2020 08: 47
    +1
    In the East, you cannot trust anyone, smiles in the eyes, and there is a brick behind the bosom, although the present west is not far away.
    1. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
      Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 11 December 2020 11: 52
      -1
      Quote: Ros 56
      In the East, you cannot trust anyone, smiles in the eyes, and there is a brick behind the bosom, although the present west is not far away.

  10. Baloo
    Baloo 11 December 2020 08: 51
    +1
    Hybrid wars for the redistribution of spheres of influence continue. The Caucasus is just a puzzle. I was not surprised by the interpretation of the latest world geopolitical events by Glazyev. Perhaps it will be interesting for everyone. I hope the site administration will not mind:
    Sergei Glazyev on the Lock Step scenario or the "formation trap" that the Rockefeller Foundation invented 10 years before the pandemic began
    Is the collective Rockefeller to blame for everything?
    The pandemic crisis that broke out in the past year is not accidental. His scenario, as one of the most likely options for the development of the future of humanity, was formulated back in the spring of 2010 in a report by the Rockefeller Foundation.
    "This scenario was called LOCK STEP, which in Russian means: walk in formation."
    Sergei Glazyev, Doctor of Economics, Professor, Advisor to the President of the Russian Federation on Regional Economic Integration, spoke about this in an interview with the Knizhniy Mir publishing house.
    All the key events of this year were clearly spelled out in the script developed by the Rockefeller Foundation:
    largest pandemic
    • global quarantine
    • stopping business and social life
    • destruction of economic ties
    • strengthening control over citizens by states, etc.
    It is not hard to guess what all these planned activities would sooner or later lead to:
    “All countries find themselves in budget deficits and are forced to go to borrow money,” Glazyev explained.
    To whom? And to those who are behind the Rockefeller Foundation: to the American ruling financial oligarchy. More precisely, to the US Federal Reserve System (FRS), which is formally a state structure, but, in fact, a joint-stock company of large banks.
    It is not surprising that in this state of affairs, the Americans themselves were the first to fall into the debt trap: “Trump was forced to flood the social sphere with money,” Glazyev recalled. [As a result, the US] came out with a budget deficit of 30%. This was not the case even during the Second World War. "
    Following the American government, all other G10 states, as well as those who, for some reason, do not know how or do not want to create their own credit, including our country, fell into the same "trap of marching in formation" that the fund Rockefeller invented more than XNUMX years ago.
    What does the collective Rockefeller want? Why do American financial tycoons "drown" everyone indiscriminately?
    “They are striving for global hegemony, for ruling the world,” explained Sergei Glazyev. - Imagine a world government.
    And as a matter of fact, such characters as Mr. Gates with his foundation, which imposes universal vaccination and bioprogramming on the world - this, in general, is their image of the world. "
    A world in which Artificial Intelligence rules the ball, and people are a dumb obedient herd.
    An unpleasant prospect for humanity ...
    However, do not despair:
    “... I think that nothing will come of this venture,” the economist is sure.
    And here's why:
    In the modern world, he argues, another change of world economic structures is taking place: the system of managing social and economic development is changing and the center of the world economy is shifting geographically from one place to another.
    “... And not once (for 500 years) a country that was in the lead in the past world economic order failed to maintain its hegemony in a situation where it was losing economically and in terms of the effectiveness of the management system,” Glazyev said.
    Let's hope the professor is right. And the American financial tycoons will lose in the same way as the British lost to them in their time (due to the fall of the colonial system).
    1. nobody75
      nobody75 11 December 2020 11: 09
      +1
      “... And not once (for 500 years) a country that was in the lead in the past world economic order failed to maintain its hegemony in a situation where it was losing economically and in terms of the effectiveness of the management system,” Glazyev said.

      Colbert's France lost to England. Venice and Genoa lost to Portugal and Spain after the start of the Age of Discovery. And from the point of view of the "efficiency of the control system" "pasta" was head and shoulders above the "conquistadors". It was they who invented "double-entry bookkeeping", started using Arabic numerals and created a modern banking system that is bursting at the seams thanks to the crypto revolution in finance.
      Apparently the course of the history of economics comrade. Glazyev skipped when, together with Chubais, he attended advanced training courses with the Rothschilds ...
      Sincerely
  11. APASUS
    APASUS 11 December 2020 08: 54
    +1
    Is Erdogan a peacemaker? It’s a strange desire, although if you look deeper, Erdogan suggested creating a mechanism and negotiating without taking into account the opinion of the world's powers that be. The strengthening of Turkey and the role of Erdogan directly will not forgive him, especially the Americans.
  12. Krasnoyarsk
    Krasnoyarsk 11 December 2020 09: 01
    0
    = We invite Armenia to join this process. We could close the doors to Armenia, stop even offering dialogue, but we are committed to peace, stable development and security of the region. =
    Comrade Recep Tayyipovich softly lays down. How will it be to sleep, and for Azerbaijan too.
    I hope that "peace and stable development and security in the region" will be built according to Russian patterns.
  13. Alex russia
    Alex russia 11 December 2020 09: 06
    +6
    Yes, Turkey is squeezing the entire Caucasus under itself, if it still will be, soon Putin's forced friend will become, as usual, a historical enemy
  14. cniza
    cniza 11 December 2020 09: 06
    +2
    More than 100 thousand ethnic Armenians live in our country today. So let's do everything for the world to triumph. Let's take steps towards each other. We are ready for this.


    Peacemaker?
  15. aszzz888
    aszzz888 11 December 2020 09: 22
    +2
    After Erdogan attacked France with criticism.
    ... and the cherry on the cake! laughing
  16. karima
    karima 11 December 2020 09: 35
    -1
    More than 100 thousand ethnic Armenians live in our country today. So let's do everything for the world to triumph. Let's take steps towards each other. We are ready for this.
    So it will be interesting when Armenia and Turkey will reconcile, how will they then with 1915?
    1. nobody75
      nobody75 11 December 2020 10: 53
      0
      And a week after the parade, Aliyev will declare:
      "This Erdagan ... I am his parent ... two states - one people!"
      Sincerely
      1. karima
        karima 11 December 2020 10: 55
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        Quote: nobody75
        And a week after the parade, Aliyev will declare: "This Erdagan ... I am his family ... two states - one people!"
        And what are they not saying today? So already. You are behind the times ... hi
        1. nobody75
          nobody75 11 December 2020 10: 57
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          You do not understand ... humor jokes ...
          Sincerely
  17. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 11 December 2020 10: 23
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    Erdogan diplomatically lowered Macron and Merkel, but at the same time paid attention to Russia
    "Negotiations with the Russian president played an important role."
    Just in case, and taking into account the fact that it will still have to jointly with Russia resolve issues in the Caucasus. But this "moved" almost to tears
    "Turkey has no grudge against the people of Armenia."
    But the people of Armenia have not only grievances against Turkey, but also the historical memory of the genocide.
    1. sniperino
      sniperino 11 December 2020 12: 20
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      Quote: rotmistr60
      But the people of Armenia have not only grievances against Turkey
      The people of Turkey? Or is historical memory a pretext for eternal enmity? This is from the BLM series.
  18. iouris
    iouris 11 December 2020 12: 03
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    Quote: "... all regional powers: Azerbaijan, Armenia, Georgia, Russia, Iran and Turkey itself." End of quote.
    Some strange order of listing. Well, Turkey is understandable - the common denominator.
    1. rotmistr60
      rotmistr60 11 December 2020 12: 24
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      We started in alphabetical order, but got confused with Iran.
    2. sniperino
      sniperino 11 December 2020 12: 28
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      Quote: iouris
      Some strange order
      "Where is he taking me, I didn't tell him the address ... Very suspicious guy."
      1. iouris
        iouris 11 December 2020 12: 36
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        That's it. Where to?
        1. sniperino
          sniperino 11 December 2020 12: 54
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          Quote: iouris
          That's it. Where to?
          And here there is only one road to the city: Transcaucasia, less interested in a big war than others + 3 large neighbor-players.
          1. iouris
            iouris 11 December 2020 14: 11
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            You are confused in the testimony. All Transcaucasia is either sovereign and independent, or there are no neighbors here. Who are they not working against? Against Turkey. Erdogan caught the wind in the sails. Where does the wind blow from? This is elementary, Watson.
            1. sniperino
              sniperino 11 December 2020 22: 35
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              Quote: iouris
              All Transcaucasia is either sovereign and independent, or there are no neighbors operating here
              Again. Transcaucasia is less interested than others in a big war on their territory. Sovereign, not sovereign, nobody wants his country to be in the middle of a big batch. "Russia, Iran and Turkey itself" have interests on their borders and are also interested in their settlement, so as not to get involved in this batch. Where is there treason in the order of listing?
  19. silver_roman
    silver_roman 11 December 2020 16: 19
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    There is infa that AS USUALLY the same vile and greedy British are behind Turkey. And as history shows, many times Russia clashed with the Turks because of these reptiles. So you need to behave carefully, at the same time smartly and without twitching, unnecessary complex threats, but clearly and firmly defending your position, not allowing the left (Turks) to our southern borders.
  20. Growlers
    Growlers 11 December 2020 18: 18
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    Georgia without Georgians, Armenia without Armenians ..... platform for peace and development in the South Caucasus in Turkish
  21. TochkaY
    TochkaY 11 December 2020 18: 21
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    The Minsk agreements were to keep the Armenians and Azerbaijanis alive. Erdogan instigated the massacre. Here it is, the Caucasian mentality - a poleax head.
  22. Scorpio05
    Scorpio05 12 December 2020 18: 00
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    Quote: Tatiana
    Then Erdogan stated that "Turkey has no grudge against the people of Armenia."

    Why should Turkey be offended by the Armenians?
    It’s not the Armenians, but Turkey owes the Armenians for the genocide of the Armenians by the Ottoman Turks in 1915-1918, and Turkey has forgiven itself these genocide debts to the Armenians for a long time - more than 100 years ago - instead of the Armenians themselves!

    And where is the court decision on the alleged Armenian genocide? How about the genocide and ethnic cleansing of Turks and Kurds carried out by Armenians in eastern Turkey? Did the Armenians admit that they massacred Kurds and Turks?
  23. Scorpio05
    Scorpio05 12 December 2020 18: 05
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    Quote: rotmistr60
    Erdogan diplomatically lowered Macron and Merkel, but at the same time paid attention to Russia
    "Negotiations with the Russian president played an important role."
    Just in case, and taking into account the fact that it will still have to jointly with Russia resolve issues in the Caucasus. But this "moved" almost to tears
    "Turkey has no grudge against the people of Armenia."
    But the people of Armenia have not only grievances against Turkey, but also the historical memory of the genocide.

    And the Armenians are "white and fluffy"? The peoples of the region about the Armenians also have a historical memory of the destruction of Turks, Azerbaijanis and Kurds, by the way, behind the back of the Russian army, which did not participate in this in any way and in every possible way distanced itself from the Armenian butchers.
  24. Scorpio05
    Scorpio05 12 December 2020 18: 18
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    Quote: tihonmarine
    Quote: Evil543
    I propose to include Kurdistan.

    Reasonable offer.

    As for the inclusion of an unrecognized state with a North Korean ideology, it will be necessary to consult with Iran, Iraq and Syria, but Turkey's opinion is known. Alternatively, it will be possible for the sake of two or three leftist parties that have settled in the Kandil mountains, do not give a damn about the opinion of the 4 largest states of the region, this is an ingenious decision, quite in the spirit of the Solovyov club of inhumanly screaming "wise men") You have heard a lot of sloppy and tongue-tied talkers from TV shows who have hands itching to start some kind of war.