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Netherlands expels two Russian diplomats accused of espionage

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Netherlands expels two Russian diplomats accused of espionage

The anti-Russian hysteria that swept through Europe continued with yet another "spy history"This time, two diplomats from the Russian embassy in The Hague have been accused of espionage. The Netherlands Broadcasting Corporation said on Thursday that they have already been declared persona non grata.


The Netherlands General Intelligence and Security Service (AIVD) has accused two Russian diplomats of espionage activities in the country. Both diplomats have been declared persona non grata and must leave the Netherlands.

According to the AIVD, they are officers of the SVR (Foreign Intelligence Service). They worked undercover as accredited diplomats at the Russian Embassy in The Hague

- said in a statement.

According to the Dutch secret service, the Russians were carrying out espionage in the field of high technologies, thereby damaging "the economy and national security of the Netherlands."

According to the local newspaper AD, one of the Russian diplomats created "an extensive network of sources", each of whom worked in the field of high technologies and had access to classified information. The second diplomat performed an "auxiliary function". The target of the Russian "spies" was "data on artificial intelligence, semiconductors and nanotechnology."

The expulsion of Russian diplomats from the Netherlands is yet another provocative gesture. All accusations of espionage are unfounded and written like a carbon copy. Europe, unfortunately, is shaken by Russophobia and spy mania absolutely groundlessly. There are already not enough fingers on the hand to list all similar cases in European capitals for the outgoing 2020. This is clearly one chain of events and steps to discredit Moscow

- said the head of the State Duma Committee on International Affairs Leonid Slutsky

Earlier, on Wednesday, December 9, the Danish prosecutor's office filed espionage charges against a Russian resident in the country, accusing him of transferring information about Danish energy technologies to the Russian special services.
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  1. lis-ik
    lis-ik 10 December 2020 18: 56
    -5
    We are getting smaller, soon they will start to expel from the Vatican.
    1. Vasilenko Vladimir
      Vasilenko Vladimir 10 December 2020 19: 17
      +21
      Quote: lis-ik
      will soon begin to be deported from the Vatican.

      in vain you are so for the Vatican, they have a spy network for the weakest, and even the financial flows that they control, many countries may envy
      1. lis-ik
        lis-ik 10 December 2020 19: 19
        -2
        Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
        Quote: lis-ik
        will soon begin to be deported from the Vatican.

        in vain you are so for the Vatican, they have a spy network for the weakest, and even the financial flows that they control, many countries may envy

        I don’t deny it, I just had to by the way. especially since I am now impressed by the series "Young Pope".
        1. Pete mitchell
          Pete mitchell 10 December 2020 19: 58
          +15
          Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
          the spy network is not the weakest, and the financial flows that they control

          Santander group, the third largest financial group in the world ...
          Two Dutch diplomats can go home, now the Foreign Ministry will wake up and announce the names - the law of ricochet: as a rule, the most promising are sent in response
          1. Clear
            Clear 10 December 2020 20: 58
            +7
            Quote: Pete Mitchell
            now the Foreign Ministry will wake up

            Oh, exactly noticed.
            1. Nyrobsky
              Nyrobsky 10 December 2020 21: 10
              +10
              Quote: Clear
              Quote: Pete Mitchell
              now the Foreign Ministry will wake up

              Oh, exactly noticed.

              So there is nothing unusual here and is rather a routine matter, which in the Foreign Ministry slang is called a "mirror response". Tomorrow already two of their diplomats with suitcases will reach the airport. Boredom recourse
          2. Mordvin 3
            Mordvin 3 10 December 2020 21: 37
            -7
            Quote: Pete Mitchell
            now the Foreign Ministry will wake up and announce

            Is the Foreign Ministry Mashka Zakharova? She will definitely sound ...
            1. Looking for
              Looking for 11 December 2020 18: 07
              0
              you will call your bedding a mash
              1. Mordvin 3
                Mordvin 3 11 December 2020 18: 10
                -1
                Quote: Seeker
                you will call your bedding a mash

                Don't blow the pipe, young man, lie in a coffin, young man ...
          3. ccsr
            ccsr 11 December 2020 12: 08
            +1
            Quote: Pete Mitchell
            as a rule, the most promising are sent in response

            As a rule, they are equivalent, so as not to provoke a further deterioration in the work of our special services - do not forget that the Netherlands is a country with a tough counterintelligence regime.
            1. Pete mitchell
              Pete mitchell 11 December 2020 12: 14
              +2
              Quote: ccsr
              As a rule, equal, so as not to provoke ...

              Naturally equivalent, but even among them there will be someone in CV for the future "to plant a mine". This is exactly what they do - not a single good deed goes unpunished, it is so accepted.
      2. venik
        venik 10 December 2020 22: 06
        +3
        Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
        in vain you are so for the Vatican, they have a spy network at the weakest

        =============
        "Not the weakest"? Well this is you too "softly" called her! Many consider one of the most powerful in the world!!! bully
        ----------
        Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
        and the financial flows that they control can be the envy of many countries

        ============
        good Add also CONNECTIONS (phenomenal connection in the highest echelons of power in many countries!) ..... drinks hi
      3. Andrey.AN
        Andrey.AN 11 December 2020 06: 08
        -12%
        in my opinion ours are cooler.
    2. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 10 December 2020 19: 48
      +6
      Quote: lis-ik
      We are getting smaller, soon they will start to expel from the Vatican.

      For undermining the ideals of the LGBT and the Catholic faith.
      1. Clear
        Clear 10 December 2020 19: 57
        +6
        Netherlands expels two Russian diplomats accused of espionage

        If this, according to the Ministry of Foreign Affairs
        from the Netherlands - another provocative gesture
        then it is necessary to send, in response, four Dutch super spies.
        1. Pete mitchell
          Pete mitchell 10 December 2020 21: 01
          +6
          Quote: Clear
          it is necessary to send, in return, four Dutch super-spies.

          Madam, madam, you are evil lol here everything is gentlemanly: you two and we two, so it is accepted.
          1. Clear
            Clear 10 December 2020 21: 05
            +3
            Quote: Pete Mitchell
            Quote: Clear
            it is necessary to send, in return, four Dutch super-spies.

            Madam, madam, you are evil lol here everything is gentlemanly: you two and we two, so it is accepted.

            Well, Pete, you can even have one - Ambassador Rob Swartball!
            1. Pete mitchell
              Pete mitchell 10 December 2020 21: 35
              +4
              Senora, the ambassador is not allowed, he is an official person.
              For which two are expelled from countries of tulips absolutely unimportant for those who are sent to the land of tulips - just not their day. Normal process
          2. Graz
            Graz 10 December 2020 21: 57
            0
            just need to accuse the deportees of pedophilia, for example, well, so that the answer was in the subject
            1. Pete mitchell
              Pete mitchell 10 December 2020 22: 19
              +5
              Quote: Graz
              just need to accuse the deportees of pedophilia, for example, well, so that the answer was in the subject

              No need, why, unreasonable expulsion puts a serious minus in CV, moreover, forever. In a year everything will be forgotten but the sediment will remain
      2. tralflot1832
        tralflot1832 10 December 2020 20: 40
        +1
        For reading the letters of the guaidikhi, everyone cries, these penultimate, last zombie cans. If he doesn’t do anything with Buttka, it’s byad.
    3. Fungus
      Fungus 10 December 2020 20: 19
      +3
      After the fake investigation with the Boeing, the Dutch have no more faith in the downed over Ukraine. So it is possible fake about spies.
      1. Clear
        Clear 10 December 2020 21: 02
        +4
        Quote: Fungus
        After the fake investigation with the Boeing, the Dutch have no more faith in the downed over Ukraine. So it is possible fake about spies.

        The task of Holland in this anti-Russian politicized story is to “save Ukraine from the sword of justice,” for which contradictory information is published, which is designed to delay the moment of establishing the truth as much as possible.
    4. BecmepH
      BecmepH 11 December 2020 10: 00
      +1
      Quote: lis-ik
      We are getting smaller, soon they will start to expel from the Vatican.

      I agree with you. We allow anyone to abuse us. Where is the Netherlands? Or who? Or what? Or is it a disease? Netherlands, tonsils ... Exactly, a disease!
  2. iouris
    iouris 10 December 2020 18: 57
    0
    And the Dutch don't spy?
    One embassy is enough - in the EU capital. And one roof is enough for EU spies. And the Russian Foreign Ministry may be located, for example, in Yakutsk. And the EU embassy is there.
    1. Alex777
      Alex777 10 December 2020 19: 26
      +6
      The Dutch court awarded the former Yukos with 50 billion from Russia.
      And the process on MN-17 is also going on there and is not at all in our favor.
      So the various deterioration of relations is just beginning.
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 10 December 2020 19: 52
        +2
        Quote: Alex777
        The Dutch court awarded the former Yukos with 50 billion from Russia.

        The Dutch court recognized by this that Khodorkovsky and his associates had stolen 50 billion dollars from the Russian people.
        1. Alexander X
          Alexander X 10 December 2020 20: 14
          0
          But already, it seems, the property of the Russian Federation is beginning to be seized to secure 50 billion ... This is how many Ash trees can be built for this money! And we can't do anything! They want to strangle economically, bad people ...
          1. Polite Moose
            Polite Moose 10 December 2020 21: 00
            +2
            Quote: Alexander X
            And we can't do anything! They want to strangle economically, bad people ...

            Alexander! hi Perhaps this will comfort your tormented soul. laughing
            The agreement with the Netherlands allows you to withdraw profit from Russia, paying tax at an effective rate of 2-3%. In Russia, the rate is several times higher - for legal entities 15% on dividends and 20% on interest, for non-resident individuals - 15%. These rates will apply to income transferred from Russia to the Netherlands in case of denunciation of the agreement, the use of the Netherlands as a "transit" jurisdiction would become disadvantageous.

            Full text here:
            https://rg.ru/2020/12/04/minfin-reshil-razorvat-soglashenie-po-nalogam-s-niderlandami.html
            1. Alex777
              Alex777 10 December 2020 23: 12
              0
              I also hinted at this. wink
            2. Alexander X
              Alexander X 11 December 2020 09: 32
              0
              By the nature of his prof. activities in the Agreements "On the avoidance of double taxation" had to thoroughly understand ...
              But even the revision of the rates does not cancel the requirements to collect 50 billion from Russia. Rather, the two events are in no way connected. Unfortunately ... I do not see any ways to "repulse" the demands except by Iskander sad..
        2. Alex777
          Alex777 10 December 2020 23: 15
          0
          The Dutch court recognized by this that Khodorkovsky and his associates had stolen 50 billion dollars from the Russian people.

          Khodorkovsky agreed to sell Yukos for 50 billion to Americans.
          With this money, he planned to become President and recapture everything back. hi
          But it so happened that instead of selling him, he was given a vacation ticket.
          1. tihonmarine
            tihonmarine 11 December 2020 08: 57
            0
            Quote: Alex777
            But it so happened that instead of selling him, he was given a vacation ticket.

            "Short-term rest".
      2. Clear
        Clear 10 December 2020 19: 59
        +2
        Quote: Alex777
        So the various deterioration of relations is just beginning.

        Faster. Why should we hold on to these enemies !? request
      3. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 10 December 2020 20: 14
        +2
        Quote: Alex777
        So a varied deterioration in relationships is just beginning

        All small-scale EU is racing to curry favor with the Big Overseas Master. Well, just like my Tuzik at the dacha, I recognize his brothers by their habits.
        1. Rostov Papa
          Rostov Papa 10 December 2020 20: 47
          +2
          Pay back the debt with Ash ...
        2. Alex777
          Alex777 10 December 2020 23: 28
          0
          For a long time, Holland was the center for Russia through which financial transactions went. Including buying and selling US debt. But the States decided to close this shop for us.
          MN-17 fits well with their antics. They spoil the relationship as best they can. hi
      4. tralflot1832
        tralflot1832 10 December 2020 20: 48
        +1
        You also need to take 50 lard, something is not working out very well. And the sanctions are generally laughable, from where the factories for the production of machine tools appeared. Everything new is sent to the town of Votkinsk.
      5. iouris
        iouris 10 December 2020 23: 17
        0
        Quote: Alex777
        The Dutch court awarded the former Yukos with 50 billion from Russia.
        And the process on MN-17 is also going on there and is not at all in our favor.

        The hypothesis is that MH17 was destroyed in order for the Dutch court to recover these 50 (now 57) billion. Thus, the question of the destruction of the Russian Federation is raised. This is a diagram. Under this scheme, a country like Libya was destroyed.
  3. The leader of the Redskins
    The leader of the Redskins 10 December 2020 19: 00
    +1
    I associate the Netherlands with cheese, legal soft drugs and the Red Light District.
    But there is no nanotechnology in these areas!
    1. Pessimist22
      Pessimist22 10 December 2020 19: 03
      0
      This small country also sells tulips all over the world, flowers are different and sells potatoes.
      1. Bolt cutter
        Bolt cutter 10 December 2020 19: 16
        +6
        tulips, different flowers and sells potatoes.
        Only on this GDP per capita five times more than Russian will not create sad ... And the Dutch themselves practically do not use legalized drugs - they are more about drinking.
      2. Pete mitchell
        Pete mitchell 10 December 2020 20: 00
        +4
        Quote: Pessimist22
        all over the world tulips, flowers are different ...

        I thought so too, but then one eagle from the B747 truck upset: every day they bring from Africa, every day ...
    2. vadimtt
      vadimtt 10 December 2020 19: 11
      +13
      You are very wrong. This country is a monopoly of semiconductor technologies, all semiconductor giants are purchased in the Netherlands, without this there would not be a single microelectronics plant. There are no such technologies either in the USA or in the rest of Europe. Suddenly, huh? tongue
      Even the computer from which you typed your comment would not exist without this country (more precisely, just one company).
      The hint is ASML.
      So it’s a pity that the SVR operation failed; if successful, there could be a real breakthrough, as in the time with the atomic bomb.
      1. Gato
        Gato 10 December 2020 19: 54
        +2
        Even the computer from which you typed your comment would not exist without this country

        Come on .. Nikon's and Canon's photolithographs are not much worse, they are also widely used for making shirpotrebovskaya m / s, especially in Southeast Asia. ASML is powered by truly the world's best Zeiss optics.
        1. vadimtt
          vadimtt 10 December 2020 20: 08
          +2
          Worse, and significantly. But as you rightly pointed out, there is absolutely nothing for consumer goods.
          ASML has a bunch of related technologies, not just mirror optics for EUV.
          And the little cherry on the cake - the United States cannot directly tell it to whom to sell and to whom not, because in its modern EUV machines less than 25% of the equipment is from the United States. For Nikon and Canon, the situation is exactly the opposite. Although, as the recent scandal has shown, the United States through the government of the Netherlands may well influence this firm.
          1. Gato
            Gato 10 December 2020 20: 14
            0
            may well influence this firm

            What we are seeing. In addition, the United States can influence the company through its "daughter", which seems to be located in the states. Yes, and as far as I know, ASML has already supplied equipment to Russia.
      2. Clear
        Clear 10 December 2020 20: 05
        -1
        Quote: vadimtt
        So it’s a pity that the SVR operation failed; if successful, there could be a real breakthrough, as in the time with the atomic bomb.

        How do you know that these are SVR officers? Do you work for the Netherlands General Intelligence and Security Service? So, even they do not specify the names of diplomats or affected organizations.
        Or maybe this is a cover operation ... winked
        1. vadimtt
          vadimtt 10 December 2020 20: 12
          -1
          So this is only the employees themselves know, and we can only assume.
          Just a target straight for honey trap laughing
          1. Clear
            Clear 10 December 2020 20: 34
            +2
            Quote: vadimtt

            Just a target straight for honey trap laughing

            Yeah, they were taken directly when transferring a barrel of honey, and inside there is a chocolate flash drive lol
    3. Vasilenko Vladimir
      Vasilenko Vladimir 10 December 2020 19: 18
      -2
      Quote: Leader of the Redskins
      the Red Light District.
      But there is no nanotechnology in these areas!

      AI inflatable woman laughing
    4. Keyser soze
      Keyser soze 10 December 2020 19: 23
      +1
      But there is no nanotechnology in these areas!


      Holland's GDP - 914 billion euros (2019). Peter the Great also studied with them .... Count yourself how long you need to go to their technologies, if you keep in mind that machine-tool industry is 21st in the world, and this is a little behind Romania.

      We have an anecdote on the Internet - "With the AstraZeneca vaccine, they inject you with a 5G chip, and with the Russian vaccine, a small tube amplifier ...." laughing
      1. Vasilenko Vladimir
        Vasilenko Vladimir 10 December 2020 19: 30
        -2
        Quote: Keyser Soze
        Even Peter the Great studied with them ...

        Well, for the sake of truth, he did not learn anything about travel there
      2. Rusland
        Rusland 10 December 2020 19: 40
        0
        Quote: Keyser Soze
        We have an anecdote on the Internet

        And what is the Internet, smiling?
        1. Clear
          Clear 10 December 2020 20: 28
          +5
          Quote: Rusland
          Quote: Keyser Soze
          We have an anecdote on the Internet

          And what is the Internet, smiling?

          They have it the same as we have, in Russia, a fence.
      3. Crimean partisan 1974
        Crimean partisan 1974 10 December 2020 19: 45
        -4
        Holland's GDP - 914 billion euros (2019) ... and how many icebreakers there are in Heiland. Submarine, but there is Strategic Missile Forces in Heilandia !!! .... and how long Heilandia will hold out in the event of a global military conflict ... not necessarily with the Russian Federation ... with Iran or Tea House ..... that's it. ..... paradoxically. but it depends on the progress of dude Eun whether this geylania will be alive in the first hours of the beginning of the conflict ... but at the expense of some technologies ... come on ... the tea has already captured everything and everyone ... ... but I forgot to ask ... how are the Heylandians in the gold reserves of the case ... in the course of unimportant ...
        1. Bolt cutter
          Bolt cutter 10 December 2020 19: 51
          +6
          how many icebreakers there are in Heilandia. Submarine
          They raised the Kursk nuclear submarine (Mammoet)
          1. Crimean partisan 1974
            Crimean partisan 1974 10 December 2020 20: 17
            -4
            It was they who lifted the nuclear submarine "Kursk" (Mammoet) ........ You can hang any noodles on your ears .... the Dutch side provided only a barge and a group of grapples and jacks IIIII ... and that's it. all other work was done by the RF. including giant pontoons and so on and so on ... this is the merit of Rubin, who interested all foreign companies involved in the rise of Kursk ... it was not free of charge for all foreign companies and was paid quite generously ...
            1. Bolt cutter
              Bolt cutter 10 December 2020 20: 20
              +3
              only a barge and a group of grippers and jacks
              They had it all. Built ahead of time.
              .it was not free for all foreign companies
              And this goes without saying. Which does not negate the fact that they had the technology.
              1. Crimean partisan 1974
                Crimean partisan 1974 10 December 2020 20: 28
                -4
                And this goes without saying. That does not negate the fact that they had technologies ....... these are not their technologies, but striped ones according to the Global Explorer program ..... striped ones did not participate in the rise. but their technologies ... and not without reason for the hozdep ...
                1. Bolt cutter
                  Bolt cutter 10 December 2020 20: 35
                  -1
                  Americans would not share such technologies.
                  1. Crimean partisan 1974
                    Crimean partisan 1974 10 December 2020 21: 04
                    -4
                    Americans would not share such technologies ........ even as they began ... the hozdepp, without participating in the rise, needed information firsthand ... and the hozdepp received it ... and the photo shows a recognizable design
        2. Keyser soze
          Keyser soze 10 December 2020 19: 52
          +1
          and how many icebreakers in Heilandia.


          Guerrilla, do you happen to have a fixation on gays? 5 times they wrote Heilandia ... it does not work well according to Freud. By the way, according to statistics, their number is equal in Holland, you and us. You can crush them with an icebreaker ... laughing

          And I think that with a GDP of a trillion, for 17 million people, the Dutch can start the Strategic Missile Forces more abruptly than yours and the American ones. Why should they?
          1. Crimean partisan 1974
            Crimean partisan 1974 10 December 2020 20: 05
            -5
            Guerrilla, do you happen to have a fixation on gays? ..... fixation mainly comes from the legitimacy of this perverted phenomenon .... we have it is illegal. but in the hero it is legalized ... that's the whole fixation ...
            according to statistics, they are equal in number in Holland, you and us ... I don't know where you got the statistics ... but the fact of the legality of same-sex marriages is diametrically opposed ... enough that in the past Holland was a sea player in the world. and now it has turned into a parasite ... from what it turned out ... but everything is simple ... look at the root ... decomposition
            1. Bolt cutter
              Bolt cutter 10 December 2020 20: 12
              -1
              turned into a parasite.
              On whom it parasitizes wassat ?
              1. Crimean partisan 1974
                Crimean partisan 1974 10 December 2020 20: 21
                0
                mainly on the banking system
                1. Bolt cutter
                  Bolt cutter 10 December 2020 20: 23
                  +1
                  With their size they sell food to Russia tongue And their industry is at least nothing.
                  1. Crimean partisan 1974
                    Crimean partisan 1974 10 December 2020 20: 31
                    -5
                    With their size, they sell food to Russia tongue And their industry has at least nothing ........ I have never seen anything on the shelves of Heyland products. maybe in Russian megalopolises there are. but we do not have on the periphery .... there is truth. they order strawberry bushes there. but she will give birth only once ... so even such a product is not in use
            2. Keyser soze
              Keyser soze 10 December 2020 20: 23
              +1
              yes everything is simple .. look at the root .. decomposition


              And you know what - decomposition is not like homosexuals get married. Decay is that your and partly my state was taken and kept by thieves, oligarchs and all that rubbish. The fact that education has dropped dramatically over the past 30 years and people believe in the Flat Earth. The fact that medicine has shrunk and not for everyone. The fact that in Volvo or Lockheid Martin an engineer takes 10 green salaries, and they take a green card from us and you. This is decomposition. And the reason for this is that we built the powers ourselves and we are also to blame. Not gay or Dutch or Martians.

              Like Remarque:

              - The Jews are to blame!
              -And cyclists.
              - Why cyclists?
              - Why Jews?
              1. Crimean partisan 1974
                Crimean partisan 1974 10 December 2020 20: 40
                -3
                The fact that in Volvo or Lockheid Martin an engineer takes 10 green salaries, and they take a green card from us and you. ...... in mln, it turns out my Kent shipbuilding engineer in Arkhangelsk came under his own power to the Crimea on his pepelatse for 000 lem and receiving 3 rubles per month on the green card sits .... well, I don't believe you. .... along the way, one of us is lying ... but definitely not me
                1. Keyser soze
                  Keyser soze 10 December 2020 20: 51
                  +2
                  and they take a green card from us and you


                  Well, it's a matter of statistics. 300 Russians apply for a green card a year. And this is the color of the nation, which has a good education.

                  a shipbuilding engineer in Arkhangelsk came under his own power to the Crimea on his pepelatse for 3 lem and receives 80000 rubles a month


                  80 rubles is what? 000 euros? 1000-650 euros in Sofia, the salary is clean. Where the waste is taken out. You can imagine how much the salary is in Lockheid and where young people who know English will go.

                  We have approximately 2 doctors working in Germany alone. Out of about 600. That's a lot. But there their starting salary is 50-000 thousand euros.
                  1. Crimean partisan 1974
                    Crimean partisan 1974 10 December 2020 21: 12
                    -3
                    650-700 euros in Sofia, the salary is clean. ..... I don't want to offend you Zheka. but you are like in the cartoon "you are a ball of a dunce" ..... well, tell me what is left of these 600 euros after taxes. payment of electricity, gas and other amenities. how much does medical insurance cost, ... by the way ... tell me how it is with the social package ... let's start ... otherwise I was beginning to doubt ... and then I climbed into the Internet and ... uuuuuuu ... . full. why so many people live in cardboard boxes ????
                    1. Keyser soze
                      Keyser soze 10 December 2020 21: 20
                      +1
                      I don't want to offend you Zheka ...


                      Don’t offend me, Partizan. I'm not touchy. What is offered is a long and subjective account. But let's try to compare something. I will honestly give you my annual heating bill and warm water bill. If you want I will scan it tomorrow and send it by mail. So:

                      apartment of 90 squares.
                      located in the center of Sofia.
                      brick building.
                      The annual bill for warm and warm water is 1260 levs (2019), which is about 630 euros with kopecks.

                      I don't even know how much it costs in Moscow or in a city of two million. You tell me.
                      1. Crimean partisan 1974
                        Crimean partisan 1974 10 December 2020 21: 42
                        -4
                        The annual bill for heat and warm water is 1260 levs (2019). This is about 610 euros with kopecks ... that is, I understand heat supply ... but here in different ways ... depending on the social package and parameters heat supply ... so ate an average central meter costs about 10 rubles, if an autonomous (gas boiler) comes out about 000 rubles a year ... well, this is an area, as you indicated, 4000-60 square meters, but there is a social package which reduces the cost by half (there are many categories), the communal apartment is also different in terms of the social package. , even on average it is impossible to calculate ... nouveauchet without a social package 90 rubles per year from the nose according to registration, gas 1200 rubles per cubic meter, for social package people half as much ... cost per square meter of housing. and the housing itself is practically free
              2. ANB
                ANB 10 December 2020 22: 49
                0
                ... The fact that in Volvo or Lockheid Martin an engineer takes 10 green salaries, and they take a green card from us and you.

                In 2014 I was in Moscow 8. After the jump in the dollar, the amount has greatly decreased, especially. But how many out of 10 in the states (and Holland) will go to tax? I have 13%.
                Yes, I'm not a boss, but an ordinary engineer.
              3. Cottodraton
                Cottodraton 11 December 2020 06: 03
                0
                Yours was also taken completely. Only European oligarchs. Under the slogan "brotherhood of peoples" (stupidly and without bothering to steal the concept from the USSR, which was so laughed at).
                Another thing is that our oligarchs at some point decided to move away from American "patronage", which the latter does not like. After all, all "progressive mankind" ate the Soviet legacy for so long and deliciously. Hence all the sanctions.
        3. Bolt cutter
          Bolt cutter 10 December 2020 20: 14
          -3
          how is it going with the Heylandians in gold reserves ... not very well ...
          Oh, Shlomo, yes Schaub you stood as he dangles laughing
          1. Crimean partisan 1974
            Crimean partisan 1974 10 December 2020 20: 24
            0
            Oh, Shlomo, yes Schaub you stood as he dangles .... that and sho. truth!!!! that and de even this is stored .... it can still burst ..... still sho there with a gold reserve !! 1 as in the neighbors ... in Fort Knox
            1. Bolt cutter
              Bolt cutter 10 December 2020 20: 30
              -5
              The main difference is that the Russian worker receives about 50 thousand rubles a month. And Dutch - about 50 thousand rubles a year. Only he has European rubles. yes
              like in the neighbors ... in Fort Knox
              Well, at least I didn't fly to London by plane. laughing
              1. Crimean partisan 1974
                Crimean partisan 1974 10 December 2020 20: 51
                +1
                that the Russian worker receives about 50 thousand rubles a month. And Dutch - about 50 thousand rubles a year. Only he has European rubles ........ and let's count the consumables ..... the cost of electricity. energy resources (gas, oil products), the cost of housing (as we call a communal apartment), and what is the social package ... then the WTO will come out ... but the number of population and territory is bursting. as well as confidence in the ability to withstand the upcoming discomfort in the foreseeable future from, if not Iran and China, so from mother nature
                1. Bolt cutter
                  Bolt cutter 10 December 2020 21: 02
                  -2
                  and what is the social package.
                  Better than Russian. Or you will argue lol Except for gasoline and other excises, prices are the same as in Moscow. For a thousand euros (80000r), you won't even hire a cleaner.
                  sides if not Iran and China
                  In the event of a nuclear war, the living will envy the dead anyway.
                  1. Crimean partisan 1974
                    Crimean partisan 1974 10 December 2020 21: 17
                    -2
                    For a thousand euros (80000r), you won't even hire a cleaner ...... no need to lie, everyone has already arrived. .... gaster with vnau and other refugees and not 1000 euros but for a lot cheaper ...
                    .Poluche rossiyskiy.Ili argue ... what to argue about if the opponent does not speak. what's in the social package in gaylandia
                    1. Bolt cutter
                      Bolt cutter 10 December 2020 21: 27
                      -1
                      gaster with vnau and other refugees and not 1000 euros but for a lot cheaper ...
                      They are not stupid refugees on welfare, and Gaster need at least one and a half, otherwise they will go somewhere else.
                      1. Crimean partisan 1974
                        Crimean partisan 1974 10 December 2020 22: 02
                        -2
                        and gaster need at least one and a half, otherwise they are going somewhere else ..... no further hishpandia, but through a puddle ... also living in boxes is not an option. so this is the taste and color of the employer in gayrops ...
                      2. Bolt cutter
                        Bolt cutter 10 December 2020 22: 23
                        -1
                        the taste and color of the employer in geyrops.
                        In Europe, labor legislation actually exists.
                      3. Crimean partisan 1974
                        Crimean partisan 1974 10 December 2020 22: 28
                        -1
                        In Europe, labor legislation actually exists ....... for all polls or whatever !!! for gersters LSOSO too .... so for the sake of neighing
                      4. Bolt cutter
                        Bolt cutter 10 December 2020 22: 31
                        -1
                        Have you been there (in Europe) at least once?
                        so for the sake of neighing
                      5. Crimean partisan 1974
                        Crimean partisan 1974 10 December 2020 22: 43
                        -2
                        Have you been there (in Europe) at least once? ........ not in geyrope. but on the Eurasian continent in the European part I live .... I need to ask more clearly --- were you Volodya in the EU .... otherwise it turns out like in the movie Sportloto 82- "and you Misha were in central America .. well, though would be in Latin "....
  4. Vitaly gusin
    Vitaly gusin 10 December 2020 20: 36
    0
    Quote: Bolt Cutter
    Oh, Shlomo, yes Schaub you stood as he dangles

    Yes Schaub you also knew how Jews and Dutch, so you did not write nonsense!
    IA Israel organized a mini-symposium on Key Technologies, Quantum Technologies and 5G with speakers from the Technical University of EJindhoven and QuSoft, as well as speakers from Ben-Gurion University of the Negev. Topics discussed included the Netherlands Quantum Delta Initiative, TU / e Quantum Key Distribution Testbed, Key Reuse Protocols and Quantum Reading of Physical Non-Clonable Functions, Topological Quantum Registers, Quantum Key Distribution (QKD) and 6G Optical Front Bridge Extended Security Framework, Quantum Technology with atoms. Appropriate EC funding opportunities were provided.

    New innovations in hydrogen and renewable energy are coming from Israel: H2Pro is one of two Dutch companies' New Energy Challenge 2020 finalists: Shell, YES! Delft and Rockstart, and voted the best scalable.

    But, I say, we make rockets
    And they blocked the Yenisei,
    And also in the field of ballet,
    We are ahead, I say, of the whole planet. (c)
    1. Crimean partisan 1974
      Crimean partisan 1974 10 December 2020 20: 55
      -1
      renewable energy sources: H2Pro is one of the two finalists of the competition ..... well, all nonsense is supported ... yes, even if I would take the Nobel Prize laureates dudes who carried out the COLD CORE SYNTHESIS ... nuclear physicist ... but this is bullshit ... so I don't care what even more nonsense they will inflict in Gevrop ... they are worse ... but I'm happier
      1. Vitaly gusin
        Vitaly gusin 10 December 2020 22: 06
        +3
        Quote: Crimean partisan 1974
        well, all sorts of nonsense is supported ...

        New Energy Challenge 2020 winners announced: FinnoExergy Oy from Finland and H2Pro from Israel

        A revolutionary method for separating water into hydrogen and oxygen: thanks to this technology, the Israeli company H2Pro was recognized as the best in terms of scale. They will develop a pilot project along with Shell Ventures.
        You might even deny that the sun rises in the east.
        Nobody will take this right away from you.
        But despite this, it will still rise in the east.
        1. Crimean partisan 1974
          Crimean partisan 1974 10 December 2020 22: 22
          -4
          The revolutionary method of separating water into hydrogen and oxygen ........... oops ... and this is what .... there are only two methods of separating water into separate elements ... thermal and electrolysis ... and here along the way it is planned to "eat a friend, I will not tell" ... great ... let them prepare for the Nobel Prize
          1. haron
            haron 11 December 2020 00: 14
            +1
            Quote: Crimean partisan 1974
            there are only two methods of separating water into separate elements ... thermal and electrolysis ... and here along the way it is outlined "there is another one I will not tell" ... great ... let them prepare for the Nobel Prize

            A chego tebe govorit? Tochnee - o chem s toboj razgovarivat? Esli ty dazhe programmu srednej shkoly svoej strany ne vyuchil. Tvoi dva metoda esche v 1983 godu tvoi-zhe sootechestvenniki na odin uvelichili. Uchi istoriju nauki svoej strany - gejroj.
            1. Crimean partisan 1974
              Crimean partisan 1974 11 December 2020 10: 22
              0
              You too
  • Clear
    Clear 10 December 2020 20: 26
    +1
    Quote: Keyser Soze
    Holland's GDP - 914 billion euros (2019). Even Peter the Great studied with them
    Tell fairy tales to the monument to Peter the Great ... It was in 2018, in 2019 the Dutch GDP fell by five billion euros ... in 2020 it fell even more ...

    Quote: Keyser Soze
    We have an anecdote on the Internet -
    So be glad that you, in Bulgaria, have an anecdote instead of a gas pipeline.

    Quote: Keyser Soze
    "With the AstraZeneca vaccine, you are injected with a 5G chip, and with the Russian vaccine, a small tube amplifier ..."
    You have to choose with the Anglo-Saxon "comrades" what to live with, walk with a tube amplifier, or with transverse myelitis (spinal cord inflammation) This is just a serious side reaction of the AstraZeneca vaccine.
    1. Keyser soze
      Keyser soze 10 December 2020 20: 41
      -4
      So be glad that you, in Bulgaria, have an anecdote instead of a gas pipeline.


      And here's a bummer .. there is a gas pipeline and even several. laughing
      It’s sad that the Trans-Balkan was empty (from Ukraine, through us, and to Turkey). Gas transit fell there. But this is sad for Gazprom, because it pretty much pays us the "transit or pay" clause and so on until 2030. laughing In general, I did not understand your Turkish gambit with gas pipelines, which are all half empty, because your Turkish friends switched to Azeri gas and American LNG.
      1. Clear
        Clear 10 December 2020 20: 55
        +2
        Quote: Keyser Soze
        But this is sad for Gazprom, because it pretty much pays us the "transit or pay" clause and so on until 2030.
        Why are you sad for Gazprom? He is not sad, but you are sad. You, as in that joke: "I sharpen my ear, to spite my neighbor ..."
        You lose a billion dollars from transit ... and he is sad for Gazprom fool


        Quote: Keyser Soze
        In general, I did not understand your Turkish gambit with gas pipelines, which are all half empty, because your Turkish friends switched to Azeri gas and American LNG.
        What to do, request until all the slaves listen to the owner, until they freeze. We will wait.
        1. Keyser soze
          Keyser soze 10 December 2020 21: 07
          -3
          You lose a billion dollars from transit ... and he is sad for Gazprom fool


          Why did they write only a billion. Why feel sorry for us? Write immediately that you lost 10 billion. It will be better this way... laughing

          all slaves listen to the owner until they freeze.


          But no. The EU gave money and we built interconnectors with Jupiter. Now we are buying Azeri gas for deshman and for even more deshman - American gas from the terminal in Alexandropolis. In general, freezing will be postponed until the explosion of Yellowstone ... laughing
          1. Clear
            Clear 10 December 2020 21: 17
            +2
            Quote: Keyser Soze
            Why did they write only a billion
            So count the losses until 2030 winked

            Quote: Keyser Soze
            EU gave money and we
            Exactly yes the current policy of a "proud" country, give money, give manure, give a spoon ... Ah, so we are very worried about ... geysers in the US national park am
    2. Niel-le-Calais
      Niel-le-Calais 10 December 2020 23: 59
      -1
      This was in 2018, in 2019 the Dutch GDP fell by five billion euros ... in 2020 it fell further ...

      913,7 billion USD (2018) 909 USD billion in 2019
      and 2020 is not over yet. And whoever GDP has not dropped this year ...
      But since they sold a lot of food and information and other necessary (the economy is diversified), plus medical .. It will subside but not so much.
  • Vladimir61
    Vladimir61 10 December 2020 21: 19
    +3
    Quote: Keyser Soze
    Holland's GDP - 914 billion euros (2019).
    One and the same piece of butter can be smeared on a crust of bread, or you can taste it for the whole loaf!
    Statistics, statistics are different. One thing is the world rating statistics, as a macroeconomic indicator, another is the statistics of comparing equivalent subjects.
    Compare the indicators of the Netherlands and the Moscow region - subjects equal in area and population ... And then you will see that the comparison of countries by rating is not such an obvious and objective indicator.
    1. Niel-le-Calais
      Niel-le-Calais 11 December 2020 00: 02
      +2
      Quote: Vladimir61
      Statistics, statistics strife

      perhaps, but the country selling only agricultural for 100 billion is impressive, given that they do not have land. Minister. All in the channels.
      1. Vladimir61
        Vladimir61 11 December 2020 02: 05
        +1
        Quote: Niel-le-Calais
        perhaps, but the country selling only agricultural for 100 billion is impressive, given that they do not have land.
        You know, you always have to consider the determining factors! The northern latitude of the Netherlands is between - 52.3 - 52.5 degrees. We, at this latitude, have such cities, for example, as Angarsk, Orenburg, Lipetsk, Biysk ... And at the same time, in Russia there is no Gulf Stream that provides an average annual temperature in the Netherlands +17 (seasonal range from + 12 to +25) Celsius. What are the temperatures in our regions, at these latitudes, I think, there is no need to explain. Bananas can be grown in the city of Oymyakon (Yakutia, the coldest city on the planet), only the cost of a banana will be comparable to an ingot of gold.
        1. Niel-le-Calais
          Niel-le-Calais 11 December 2020 11: 16
          0
          Quote: Vladimir61
          And at the same time, Russia does not have the very Gulf Stream, which provides the average annual temperature in the Netherlands +17

          the value of the Gulf Stream is not only in temperature
          most importantly humidity
          Russia's trouble is temperature and humidity
          Quote: Vladimir61
          The northern latitude of the Netherlands is between - 52.3 - 52.5 degrees

          in the Russian Federation there are places to the south (but no humidity)
          What is the comparison then? in terms of the area of ​​the Russian Federation and places to the south more than the Netherlands at times.
          EFFICIENCY (what is this country in 1st place)
          even the quantity cannot be defeated (by the way, Israel does not have such humidity, but it also has efficiency)
          Quote: Vladimir61
          Bananas can be grown in the city of Oymyakon (Yakutia, the coldest city on the planet), only the cost price of a banana will be comparable to an ingot of gold.

          example of Iceland by latitude (but there are thermal ones)
          Do you know the answer to the latitudes of the Russian Federation in Dutch?
          "Smart greenhouses"
  • Linxs
    Linxs 10 December 2020 19: 30
    +2
    Diamonds, flowers, high-tech equipment ...
    1. Tsoy
      Tsoy 10 December 2020 19: 52
      0
      Diamonds, flowers, high-tech equipment ...


      More slaves. But no, this business has decayed not so long ago by the standards of history.

      Holland is also a world exporter of synthetic drugs. Amphetamines and the like. According to Interpol data, 70% of all meta is brewed there.
      It is also the birthplace of Heineken and Phillips.
    2. Vadim237
      Vadim237 10 December 2020 23: 25
      -2
      High-tech equipment ... And what kind of high-tech equipment made in Holland, without which Russia cannot do.
    3. Niel-le-Calais
      Niel-le-Calais 11 December 2020 00: 02
      -1
      Quote: LinxS
      Diamonds, flowers, high-tech equipment ...

      By the way, they sell gold.
      1. Niel-le-Calais
        Niel-le-Calais 11 December 2020 11: 17
        0
        for the sale of gold by the Netherlands minus lol
  • tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 10 December 2020 19: 58
    -1
    Quote: Leader of the Redskins
    But there is no nanotechnology in these areas!

    This is certainly bent by the niders, nanotechnology in prostitution. Although it may be based on nanotechnology, a new nonsense has been invented.
  • Avior
    Avior 10 December 2020 20: 48
    -2
    Amsterdam - bicycles, canals, museums with the works of Van Gogh, Rembrandt and Vermeer, as well as Philips - just with technologies and 65 thousand patents - Casa Ross Theater, Tussauds Museum greenhouses from which Peter brought potatoes to Russia, closer to the sea - slightly salted excellent taste herring and eel, clamps and much more.
    Fun place :)))) .....
  • Hello from Baku
    Hello from Baku 10 December 2020 22: 38
    +3
    You shouldn't think so, back in the late 80s I worked in a post office on the Dutch equipment, made substrates for microwave boards. In the field of semiconductors, they are really leaders. For example, modern refrigeration equipment, solutions based on it and controllers for this equipment are mainly produced in Holland.
  • iouris
    iouris 10 December 2020 23: 19
    +2
    Quote: Leader of the Redskins
    I associate the Netherlands with cheese

    Apparently, you know a thing or two about the Netherlands, but your range of interests is limited.
    1. Niel-le-Calais
      Niel-le-Calais 11 December 2020 00: 06
      +1
      Quote: iouris
      Apparently, you know a thing or two about the Netherlands, but your range of interests is limited.

      yes, the usual philistine or tourist.
      Ask on the street - they will tell you even less about each country. Only associations.
      Cheese, tulips, etc. .. But the fact that they make 80% of the equipment for cheese in the world, tourists do not know about it. Shows are watched on TV, but no one knows what a third of the world's export industry is from.
      And every third show is from the Netherlands.
  • Niel-le-Calais
    Niel-le-Calais 10 December 2020 23: 53
    +3
    Quote: Leader of the Redskins
    But there is no nanotechnology in these areas!

    The Netherlands has a highly developed agriculture (livestock and crop production), is one of the world's largest producers and exporters of vegetables and flowers. The Netherlands, occupying 0,008% of the world's land area, is the world's second largest exporter of agricultural products, second only to the United States (about $ 100 billion)
    Industry in the Netherlands produces 80% of the poultry processing equipment required by the global industry, as well as equipment for the production of cheese.
    The Netherlands holds a leading position in the world in terms of turnover, job creation, brand registration and patents of the global creative industry. The annual turnover of the industry in the Netherlands is 32,8 billion euros.
    The Netherlands is the 3rd largest exporter of television content in the world (all of our Voice-type shows are all from there)
    The Netherlands is a world leader in the development of computer games
    The Netherlands is one of the world's largest natural gas producers as well as a broker and hub.
    The Netherlands is a leader in energy efficiency (for example, a leader in waste management)
    and "clean gas" (patent of the Dutch energy company ECN.)
    Technologies of Dutch IT programmers are used in 90% of the world's silicon chips
    The Netherlands is a world leader in the export of seeds and new crop varieties.
    And cheese, soft drugs and girls are so ... a couple of streets in Amsterdam ... and then for tourists.
    They raised their country from the bottom of the ocean. And they worked hard to achieve such prosperity. (About 50 thousand dollars per capita)
  • Guru
    Guru 11 December 2020 07: 21
    0
    I associate the Netherlands with cheese, legal soft drugs and the Red Light District.
    But there is no nanotechnology in these areas!
    You shouldn't be a colleague, Philips has been on the market for a long time.
  • Engineer
    Engineer 11 December 2020 09: 59
    +1
    Holland is primarily ASML.
    Nanotechnology in the full sense.
    On a scale that Rusnano never dreamed of.
  • razved
    razved 10 December 2020 19: 02
    +1
    I wonder if the Dutch have lit up or are hitting the squares (for the posts of the embassy) ... We are waiting for an answer ...
    1. ul_vitalii
      ul_vitalii 10 December 2020 19: 27
      +9
      The third dash of tenths of secretaries of embassies can be safely, and at all. yes A choice for every taste, color and serial number. yes
  • Thrifty
    Thrifty 10 December 2020 19: 12
    +1
    They sent two of our diplomats, we must automatically send four Dutch diplomats from Russia!
  • aleks neym_2
    aleks neym_2 10 December 2020 19: 15
    -2
    What the hell, "nanotechnology! Stole for a snack a couple of bulbs of" black "tulip with a light high from the territory of red light districts.
    1. Chervonny
      Chervonny 11 December 2020 02: 41
      +22
      Quote: aleks neym_2
      from the red light district

      In the summer, there was information that several streets in the Red Light District were closed in Amsterdam due to non-observance of social distance wassat
  • silberwolf88
    silberwolf88 10 December 2020 19: 21
    +1
    what can I say ... an eye for an eye ... a good diplomatic principle ... whether they collected information there or not ... but the gesture is unfriendly ... and requires an answer ... two Danes with things to go out ...
    1. halpat
      halpat 10 December 2020 19: 49
      +2
      Quote: silberwolf88
      what can I say ... an eye for an eye ... a good diplomatic principle ... whether they collected information there or not ... but the gesture is unfriendly ... and requires an answer ... two Danes with things to go out ...

      it is perfectly! in the spirit of the policy of asymmetric responses.
  • agoran
    agoran 10 December 2020 19: 23
    -4
    Hmm, population 17 million
    "Danish energy technology information" is I = U / R?
    And is this pig grunting?
  • Dzafdet
    Dzafdet 10 December 2020 19: 34
    +4
    First time thu? We spied, we spy and we will spy. Only we also need to send a couple of Dutchmen ...
    1. Rusland
      Rusland 10 December 2020 19: 44
      +3
      Better yet, a sweet couple, for sure there are such. smile
    2. Clear
      Clear 10 December 2020 20: 30
      +5
      Quote: Dzafdet
      First time thu? We spied, we spy and we will spy. Only we also need to send a couple of Dutchmen ...

      Yes, on a reciprocal basis, it will.
  • vitvit123
    vitvit123 10 December 2020 19: 37
    +2
    New TV shows will appear on the ren-tv or star channel, with new presenters.
    1. agoran
      agoran 10 December 2020 19: 46
      +2
      Uh-huh. And Gordon will tell the little Sumerians about the vaccine with the molecules of democracy from the EU, but it will not be available yet. (Postman Pechkin, you get the idea.)
      While in the Russian Federation vaccination is in full swing.
  • Vladislav_2
    Vladislav_2 10 December 2020 20: 00
    +2
    but for me so .... they sent diplomats to break off diplomatic relations 6-12 months. and look at "EU feelings and and reactions" yes
    1. agoran
      agoran 10 December 2020 20: 11
      +1
      And Tribals, close borders and traffic.
      All Talaponians should be polygraph tested.
    2. Niel-le-Calais
      Niel-le-Calais 11 December 2020 00: 08
      -2
      Quote: Vladislav_2
      but for me so .... they sent diplomats to break off diplomatic relations 6-12 months. and look at "EU feelings and and reactions" yes

      not a country to quarrel.
      The Russian Federation sells about 40 billion of raw materials and food there. And he buys 3 billion cars and chemicals.
      A very sensitive market for raw materials for the Russian Federation.
  • faiver
    faiver 10 December 2020 20: 14
    +2
    It happens, what can you say here, working moments so to speak ...
  • mongol9999
    mongol9999 10 December 2020 21: 06
    +1
    I do not know. In my opinion, it is not Russophobia that is to blame, but the quality of training suffers. The perturbations from the KGB to the FSB greatly lowered the level of training. But this is an outside observation. Perhaps I am wrong and only Russophobia is to blame.
  • Andrei Nikolaevich
    Andrei Nikolaevich 10 December 2020 21: 34
    +1
    Well, he joked a little and what of this, a problem to do? You might think that their diplomats, in Moscow, sell seeds ..)
  • Petro_tut
    Petro_tut 10 December 2020 22: 38
    0
    People, you will be very surprised, but in the Netherlands there really is something to steal in terms of the latest technologies, and the fact that ours got caught is very unpleasant ...
    1. Niel-le-Calais
      Niel-le-Calais 11 December 2020 00: 14
      -1
      Quote: Petro_tut
      but in the Netherlands there really is something to steal in terms of the latest technology, and the fact that ours got caught is very unpleasant

      at the beginning of 2018, two Russians were arrested in the Netherlands, intending to monitor a chemical laboratory in the town of Spitz in the Alps
      a laboratory in Spitz studied samples of chemicals used in chemical attacks in Syria, and also investigated the composition and origin of the Novichok chemical warfare agent
      ... The response to the exposure was a summons from the ambassador and accusations of disinformation against The Hague.
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 10 December 2020 22: 58
    +1
    laughing Folkscrant ... rzhu, like a horse 
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 10 December 2020 22: 59
    +1
    Well, thank God. This is better than we would normally be considered subhumans. 

    So at least they will be afraid. ))

    The most interesting thing, conduct a survey among the residents of Russia, hardly anyone at all seriously called Holland a threat to Russia. Unless they will throw them in jambs. laughing
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 10 December 2020 23: 02
    0
    Interestingly, the Dutch know how much money they pump annually from Russia to this very Holland, or rather, the Netherlands laughing
    1. Niel-le-Calais
      Niel-le-Calais 11 December 2020 00: 17
      -1
      Quote: Gennady Fomkin
      the Dutch know how much money they pump annually from Russia to this very Holland, or rather, the Netherlands

      trade turnover was 43 billion (40 was received by the Russian Federation from the Netherlands, and 3 by the Netherlands from the Russian Federation)
  • Klingon
    Klingon 11 December 2020 00: 37
    +2
    right now, Zakharova will face the thread in response and then give a symmetrical penal to two Dutch diplomats wassat
    1. Chervonny
      Chervonny 11 December 2020 02: 28
      +20
      Definitely it will be so laughing They cannot act differently with our partners. The "mirror method" of foreign policy of "soft power" ...
  • andreykolesov123
    andreykolesov123 11 December 2020 02: 14
    0
    The Dutch have nothing to do, this is instead of demanding the Golan Heights.
  • aszzz888
    aszzz888 11 December 2020 02: 35
    0
    The answer to the expulsion of Russian diplomats will be mirrored. The Russian Foreign Ministry said something like this today,
  • Cottodraton
    Cottodraton 11 December 2020 02: 56
    0
    There they only have ASML ... Are they trying to create equipment for subtle technical processes?
  • tolmachiev51
    tolmachiev51 11 December 2020 03: 44
    0
    and then Chubais's department was pierced, truly not to steal, not to watch !!! Do not go abroad to YouTube - accused of espionage.
  • baza1
    baza1 11 December 2020 09: 00
    0
    What is there to steal. Turn to Chubais, he will give everything away.
  • zwlad
    zwlad 11 December 2020 09: 09
    0
    Is our Foreign Ministry still awake? Where is the answer?
  • Skai
    Skai 12 December 2020 12: 48
    0
    Van der valenki got stoned there
  • Roman1970_1
    Roman1970_1 12 December 2020 15: 36
    0
    Where is the "scratch"
    it turns out, somewhere not.
    All embassies have spies and scouts. Someone is caught and exposed, someone is not.
    No connection with Russophobia