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Ukraine offered to modernize the Brazilian tanks M60A3

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Ukraine offered to modernize the Brazilian tanks M60A3

Ukraine invited Brazil to modernize the Brazilian army Tanks M60. Specialists of the Kharkiv Malyshev Plant came up with a corresponding proposal.


Representatives of "ZiM" held a presentation for the Brazilians, during which they presented their own concept of modernizing the M60 tanks.

As explained, even before 2014, the specialists of the Kharkov Machine-Building Design Bureau worked on the modernization of the American M60 tank. Why this work was carried out is not reported, most likely it was a kind of "reserve for the future" associated with the planned entry into the market of modernization services.


Image of М60А3 after Ukrainian modernization

The version of the modernization of the M60 developed in Kharkov provides for the replacement of the "native" turret of the tank with a turret from the T-84-120 Yatagan tank with a 120 mm cannon, replacement of the engine with a more modern Ukrainian two-stroke 6TD6 boxer diesel engine with a capacity of 2 l / s reverse transmission, as well as the establishment of dynamic protection, active protection complex "Zaslon" and the system of optical-electronic suppression "Varta".

Kiev noted that the technical condition of the M60A3 tanks purchased by Brazil in the United States does not meet modern requirements, and the modernization according to the option proposed by Ukraine would allow a significant part of them to be returned to service with new combat capabilities.
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  1. Uncle lee
    Uncle lee 10 December 2020 15: 08
    +5
    Modernization option developed in Kharkov
    The engine from Zaporozhets, the goose from KhTZ and dynamic protection from plywood ... wassat
    1. Orange bigg
      Orange bigg 10 December 2020 15: 20
      +21
      Ukraine offered to modernize the Brazilian tanks M60A3

      Ukraine wants to replenish its fleet of tanks at someone else's expense. Tanks for modernization will be taken away and not returned.
      And they got to Brazil after stories with Croatian MiG-21s, kidalov on cooperation in the field of transport An-178 with Peru, An-74 with Kazakhstan, "intentions" to cooperate with Azerbaijan and Saudi Arabia, cracks in the hulls of armored vehicles sold to Iraq and Thailand. And that's not all. Oh my God. Run away from them Brazil before it's too late.
      1. frruc
        frruc 10 December 2020 15: 23
        +5
        Kaklam cannot even be trusted to paint them.
        1. Orange bigg
          Orange bigg 10 December 2020 15: 28
          +8
          Quote: frruc
          Kaklam cannot even be trusted to paint them.

          Well, why not? If only they tell you to paint in yellow-blakitny as they paint all the benches and benches in this color, then with a bang. Even for free, I think they will paint. For the idea, so to speak, volunteers will only be gathered. Besides, the national colors of Brazil and Ukraine are similar (yellow-green and yellow-blue).
          1. frruc
            frruc 10 December 2020 16: 24
            +6
            I even saw a public toilet smeared with yellow-blacite paint near the train station.
            1. Xnumx vis
              Xnumx vis 10 December 2020 16: 31
              +13
              Quote: frruc
              I even saw a public toilet smeared with yellow-blacite paint near the train station.

              In Sevastopol, all garbage cans were painted in zhovtno blakite colors, fences. They marked everything they could reach ... Insanity! Zhovtno blakit flags on every outhouse, children's playgrounds in zhovtno blakit colors ... It seems that no other colors were produced in Ukraine. Glory to Russia that we are Russia!
              1. Lipchanin
                Lipchanin 10 December 2020 16: 49
                +14
                Quote: 30 vis
                Flags zhovtno blakit

              2. Lipchanin
                Lipchanin 10 December 2020 17: 18
                +8
                Quote: 30 vis
                In Sevastopol, all garbage cans were painted in zhovtno blakit colors,

                How about that?
                1. Sergey M. Karasev
                  Sergey M. Karasev 10 December 2020 17: 42
                  +9
                  Where is such beauty? IMHO, a very suitable color for the trash can. laughing
                  1. Lipchanin
                    Lipchanin 10 December 2020 18: 18
                    -1
                    Quote: Sergey Mikhailovich Karasev
                    Where is this beauty?

                    As where? Orcaine of course laughing
                    Remember how the military in the Crimea repeated like a mantra, "America is with us" laughing
                    1. Sergey M. Karasev
                      Sergey M. Karasev 11 December 2020 02: 15
                      0
                      I would be pleased if our garbage dumps were painted the same way. You see, the Merikatos would love it too. laughing
                    2. Grits
                      Grits 11 December 2020 06: 16
                      +1
                      Quote: Lipchanin
                      As where? Orcaine, of course laughing
                      Remember how the military in the Crimea repeated like a mantra, "America is with us"

                      This should be so exalted in one's own creativity, while at the same time sinking in one's own respect.
                2. Xnumx vis
                  Xnumx vis 10 December 2020 19: 49
                  +2
                  Quote: Lipchanin
                  Quote: 30 vis
                  In Sevastopol, all garbage cans were painted in zhovtno blakit colors,

                  How about that?

                  Hence uk ram there was a team from partners from the SaShP - "Do as I do!"
          2. Lipchanin
            Lipchanin 10 December 2020 16: 47
            +9
            Quote: OrangeBigg
            how they paint all the benches and benches in this color

        2. Rostov Papa
          Rostov Papa 10 December 2020 16: 40
          +3
          Yes, sho there are tanks laughing
          1. Lipchanin
            Lipchanin 10 December 2020 16: 52
            +8
            Quote: Rostov Dad
            Yes, sho there are tanks

      2. bobba94
        bobba94 10 December 2020 16: 45
        +9
        I liked the deal with the An-74, especially the decision of the Economic Court of the Kharkiv region, which considered Kazakhstan's claim to terminate the contract and return the advance payment of $ 15,202 million. So in the court decision it was said that Russia is to blame for everything, and Kazakhstan should forget about the An-74, about the advance payment of 15,202 million dollars and go with God ...
      3. Egoza
        Egoza 11 December 2020 14: 27
        0
        Quote: OrangeBigg

        Ukraine wants to replenish its fleet of tanks at someone else's expense. Tanks for modernization will be taken away and not returned.

        "There are many wild monkeys in Brazil" who are modernizing tanks even without their Ukrainian counterparts.
    2. Cutter
      Cutter 10 December 2020 15: 36
      +6
      One thing is surprising! REALLY closer "modernizers" was not found ??? Brazilians, run from there "faster than the wind" ... They destroyed their economy, now they will destroy your tanks. Make BENDERAOPLOT ...
      1. Eldorado
        Eldorado 10 December 2020 15: 49
        +2
        Let Ukraine modernize! Brazil is a threat to our Venezuela!
        1. frruc
          frruc 10 December 2020 16: 26
          +1
          Naturally, she is also included in BRICS.
      2. Alex777
        Alex777 10 December 2020 15: 50
        +3
        Why does Brazil need tanks at all?
        Old or modernized? bully
        1. RUSS
          RUSS 10 December 2020 16: 33
          +3
          Quote: Alex777
          Why does Brazil need tanks at all?
          Old or modernized? bully

          Brazil has territorial disputes with Uruguay, Guiana.
          Suddenly Uruguay will also want "Rincon de Artigas" OUR!
          1. Aerodrome
            Aerodrome 10 December 2020 16: 48
            +3
            Ukraine offered to modernize the Brazilian tanks M60A3
            ah krasafsy! well, they know how to surprise! it seems that when I have already seen everything, the Ukrainians again surprise ... wassat And most importantly, the field is not yet plowed by tanks, then all around the world!
          2. Lara Croft
            Lara Croft 10 December 2020 22: 54
            +1
            Quote: RUSS
            Brazil has territorial disputes with Uruguay, Guiana.

            Talk to Guiana ... the one that is considered the overseas department of France, where the 3rd Infantry Regiment of the French Foreign Legion is located, from where (the Kourou cosmodrome) all European rockets with satellites take off ... yes, you are an entertainer ...
        2. Lipchanin
          Lipchanin 10 December 2020 16: 54
          +2
          Quote: Alex777
          Why does Brazil need tanks at all?

          Football players will be handed out if they win the 2022 World Cup
        3. frruc
          frruc 10 December 2020 19: 48
          0
          Brazil needs tanks to scare wild monkeys with them wassat
      3. Lipchanin
        Lipchanin 10 December 2020 16: 57
        +3
        Quote: Cutter
        Make BENDERAOPLOT ...

        They have other designs


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  3. kventinasd
    kventinasd 10 December 2020 15: 18
    +1
    There will be another cut of the dough of those interested in the capabilities of the Ukrainian military industry. Brazilians should take into account the experience of Chinese investors on the example of Motor Sich - "the money was yours, and the steel was ours" and if cho, "Omeriga will help us"
  4. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 10 December 2020 15: 21
    +3
    How much do the Brazilians need to sell instant coffee for upgrading their tanks? recourse And taking into account the logistics? recourse Overseas and a heifer - half, and a ruble ferry. request
  5. Doccor18
    Doccor18 10 December 2020 15: 22
    +6
    Replacing the turret, cannon, engine and electronics is a 75% new tank. How much will it cost
    such an upgrade?
  6. Gato
    Gato 10 December 2020 15: 22
    +4
    It’s interesting how the tower from the T-60 will be on the M84 shoulder strap?
    1. Pereira
      Pereira 10 December 2020 15: 35
      +11
      The cracks will be filled with polyurethane foam.
  7. The leader of the Redskins
    The leader of the Redskins 10 December 2020 15: 26
    +3
    Technically, the idea is interesting, but the price will be cosmic. ZiM has such an option - the modernization of the T55. MTO, machine gun, 120 ...
    The price was the same as for a new tank.
    1. Constanty
      Constanty 10 December 2020 16: 46
      +2
      Typhon 2A - surprising also for a South American country - Peru - for $ 2 million at prices since 2010.



      In fact, in Peru, the upgrade was similar to that of the T-60 Saber.
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  9. Morglenn
    Morglenn 10 December 2020 15: 42
    +2
    Wouldn't it cost as much as a new tank in terms of price?
    1. Herman 4223
      Herman 4223 10 December 2020 16: 01
      0
      Saving only on the tank hull. According to their mind, they need to be offered a replacement, hang up an active defense, a new weapon and refresh the filling. But for the filling it is cheaper to go to China. Defense in Israel would be better, but the weapon of fame in terms of quality and resource did not work for itself.
      1. Morglenn
        Morglenn 10 December 2020 16: 16
        0
        Yes, it would be better to buy a completely new T-84 in this case.
        1. Herman 4223
          Herman 4223 10 December 2020 16: 52
          +3
          For this, it is necessary to make a case somewhere, the case was no longer made under Yushchenko.
  10. Herman 4223
    Herman 4223 10 December 2020 15: 51
    +1
    Yes, 6TD and a cannon from a water pipe (the pipe plant should do it, as I remember) is what they just lacked. Upgrade exactly.
  11. Cananecat
    Cananecat 10 December 2020 15: 51
    0
    And tell me, with whom is Brazil fighting or preparing to fight? Maybe we will put new ATGM complexes there, after the modernization carried out by kaklami?
    1. Morglenn
      Morglenn 10 December 2020 16: 18
      0
      The crazy Bolsonaro runs it. There's nothing to arm this psycho
      1. Ros 56
        Ros 56 10 December 2020 17: 43
        0
        Are the independent dunce better?
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  12. Dimide
    Dimide 10 December 2020 15: 52
    0
    There was a forum of military-technical cooperation. Brazilians are so far interested in ATGM, joint Bayraktar, AN-178 and, oddly enough, modernization of ships at our shipyards. Our "Wishlist" has not yet been reported
    1. Ovsigovets
      Ovsigovets 10 December 2020 17: 32
      -2
      vPTRK "Stugna" I will still believe .... the rest of the "Wishlist" will only smile
      1. Dimide
        Dimide 10 December 2020 20: 31
        -1
        "Stugna" is not sold for export.
        "Corsair" and "Skif" are coming.
        "Wishlist" are possible by mutual offset, but in fact, bmp (without the slightest clue)
        1. Ovsigovets
          Ovsigovets 10 December 2020 21: 05
          0
          not the point in the name, the point is in the form of a product ..... I believe in the ATGM ... the rest is very doubtful ..... AN-178 died .... already the fact that everything was done with Peru, Bayraktar is not only that the Turkish is not all, and that what the Turks themselves do not do is not the wheels on the chassis. Modernization of which ships and at whose shipyards ??? Brazilian ??? mdaaaaaaaaaaaa ....... across the ocean to drive the ship to the stinking half-dead shipyards ?????
          1. Dimide
            Dimide 10 December 2020 23: 37
            -2
            I recently read that the construction of an aircraft for Peru is on schedule.
            The state defense order for the next year provides for the construction of three aircraft for the Armed Forces of Ukraine with a deadline of 23.
            Turkey may be, like you, under sanctions, but we are not. Canada is generally in "gold"
            I was surprised at the shipyards.
            Answer that you are so "flattened" by the shipyards, something personal?
            1. Ovsigovets
              Ovsigovets 11 December 2020 15: 25
              0
              read the news from Peru))))) where it is more interesting ....... Three aircraft for the APU))))) miles sorry, but you are an optimist ... let's at least wait 2022 ...... Your gold with Canada does not in any way affect the supply and creation of BayraktaroV)))) who told you that joint production is production in Ukraine ????? ahahahahahaha ..... TB2 for the Turks is a hot commodity and what that, but the Turks will not give up the production of these golden eggs to Ukraine. Once again ...... are you really talking about the repair of BRAZIL ships in Ukraine ???? Well, you read at least a little about shipbuilding and shipyards in Brazil ... unlike you, they still build ships))))
            2. Ovsigovets
              Ovsigovets 11 December 2020 15: 30
              0
              Let me immediately outline with whom you are now in polemics entered. I believe that there are no tanks based on the "armata", because they have not been ordered (there is no firm contract), they have not been produced, transferred or accepted by the army in mass production mode ...... therefore a phrase like "but on the forum they said "I, in principle, do not take seriously
              1. Dimide
                Dimide 11 December 2020 17: 19
                0
                And not going to
                Let me clarify that the plane for Peru was recently demonstrated online for the Peruvian Ministry of Defense.
                Contact confirmed.
                At the expense of Bayraktar, we found a place for a joint venture near Kiev. From next year they will begin to assemble from modules.
                In the fleet, he himself is not clear
                1. Ovsigovets
                  Ovsigovets 11 December 2020 21: 29
                  0
                  oh ... you can argue forever .... I suggest based on the results))))))
  13. baza1
    baza1 10 December 2020 15: 53
    0
    That's what I was laughing! Great news! thanks
    1. Evil Booth
      Evil Booth 11 December 2020 15: 40
      0
      well, let's have another laugh.
      m60 tank because it carries artillery shells, the Abrams is not a tank because it carries only anti-tank shells and some firecrackers. in total abrams in the usa active as many as 1000 pieces. leopards are made in greece, in the LDNR tank park is larger than the usa england france germany combined by those leclerk leopard challengers. There is no air defense in NATO at all, and the Saudi port is an example of this, a dozen patrites, a dozen other complexes and zero sense. tigers so fiercely bypassed t34 that they were unable to take Kursk in a couple of months when the eagle returned more of them (tigers) (after all, the tiger is cooler! =)). UAVs are so effective that having a cost of 30 pieces of su34, they will throw off the mass of ammunition as 1 su34 at a time, but many times less, in terms of the number of pieces, like everything but at a time)), is it possible to hit targets not by reconnaissance from UAVs and with artillery forces? yes .... actually as always !. did the blah bomb abrams? yes)) 10 years before Karabakh? Yes! vnato air defense and will not be .....
  14. Andrei Nikolaevich
    Andrei Nikolaevich 10 December 2020 16: 22
    +2
    I hope the Brazilians are smart enough not to get involved with the country of embroidered shirts and pots.
  15. svp67
    svp67 10 December 2020 16: 30
    +2
    Deadly born project.
  16. APASUS
    APASUS 10 December 2020 16: 34
    +2
    The Ukrainians who have not yet had time to throw at the grandmother is Brazil! In Tae, they are already praying for every transport that arrives from Ukraine with equipment laughing laughing wink
  17. Sidor Amenpodestovich
    Sidor Amenpodestovich 10 December 2020 16: 43
    -2
    Image of М60А3 after Ukrainian modernization

    It seems to me that it would be more correct to do this:
  18. Most kind
    Most kind 10 December 2020 16: 45
    +3
    They will take the money and the tanks will drink, in short, as usual, the Ukrainians have run out of something, either money or tanks, they also were not given an urgent loan.
  19. gurzuf
    gurzuf 10 December 2020 17: 31
    +1
    I immediately remembered the MIG-21 modernized by Ukraine for Croatia wink
  20. Ros 56
    Ros 56 10 December 2020 17: 41
    +1
    These Banderlog are so modernizing that then what the hell you find, they have already shown themselves.
  21. Gray-haired Zinnik
    Gray-haired Zinnik 10 December 2020 19: 13
    0
    Ukraine offered its drawings
  22. Lesorub
    Lesorub 10 December 2020 20: 06
    +2
    The version of the modernization of the M60 developed in Kharkov provides for the replacement of the "native" turret of the tank with a turret from the T-84-120 Yatagan tank with a 120 mm cannon, replacement of the engine with a more modern Ukrainian two-stroke 6TD6 boxer diesel engine with a capacity of 2 l / s reverse transmission, as well as the establishment of dynamic protection, active protection complex "Zaslon" and the system of optical-electronic suppression "Varta".

    The Brazilians will clearly disagree - replacing the turret, the engine is too expensive, and even after the contract (to put it mildly, not entirely successful with Thailand for the supply of Oplotov and BTR 4 to Iraq), potential customers will think 100 times if they need it.
  23. svoit
    svoit 10 December 2020 21: 14
    +1
    And why didn't they impose modernization on the Turks, there are 60 ki and 48 there, a gold mine
    1. volodimer
      volodimer 11 December 2020 11: 59
      0
      Here, too, immediately thought about it! Probably because Erdogan, although inadequate, is not a degenerate.
  24. Alexander X
    Alexander X 11 December 2020 13: 43
    0
    They will cheat .. They will take the money on an advance payment and cheat ..
  25. Eug
    Eug 15 December 2020 21: 47
    0
    Ukraine's "partner" - Turkey - has its own version of the T-60 modernization. Let's see who wins the competition.