All EU countries supported the extension of sanctions against Russia

The economic sanctions of the European Union against Russia will most likely be extended, none of the EU countries opposed. This is reported by the European media.

Reportedly, on December 10, the heads of state and government of the European Union will hold a summit, where the issue of extending sanctions against Russia will be considered. According to a high-ranking EU official, the restrictions will most likely be extended, since no EU country opposed.

No country has indicated that the sanctions should not be extended. As usual, the issue of the implementation of the Minsk Agreements will be touched upon, within which sanctions are usually extended. Nobody opposed the extension of sanctions

- write the media.

Earlier it was reported that the European Union intends to continue the sanctions pressure on Russia for another six months.

Meanwhile, the German opposition believes that sanctions against Russia should be lifted. According to the Bundestag deputy from the faction "Alternative for Germany" Waldemar Gerdt, the decision to impose restrictions against Russia was "the stupidest decision" and led to a completely different result than planned.

It was a shot in the knee. To break off relations with a neighbor with whom they need to develop, trade, cooperate was the stupidest decision

- he said.

Comments

[Irek]

And our host, we will survive this.

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: Irek

And our host, we will survive this.

And we will not just survive, but for our own benefit. Whoever said anything, but the sanctions forced our "smart heads" to start producing what was previously purchased for oil and gas dollars. And this is still a big plus.

[Doccor18]

we will not just survive, but for our own benefit.

I noticed these "benefits" for the people. Prices go up for everything, especially for imported ones, and imported almost everything ...

All EU countries supported the extension of sanctions against Russia

Well, at least in something they are united ...

[Rubi0]

Are you sure that everything is imported? Yesterday, for the sake of interest, I climbed to see how much my Samsung plasma is eating, and was surprised that it was collected in Kaluga

[Doccor18]

Assembled in Kaluga .. But from what? Are all the accessories also produced in Kaluga?

[frruc]

Most of the components come not from the European Union, but from the PRC and the Republic of Korea.

[Doccor18]

Quote: frruc

Most of the components come not from the European Union, but from the PRC and the Republic of Korea.

This is exactly

[Tatyana]

The German opposition believes that sanctions against Russia should be lifted. According to the Bundestag deputy from the faction "Alternative for Germany" Waldemar Gerdt, the decision to impose restrictions against Russia was "the stupidest decision" and led to a completely different result than planned.

It was a shot in the knee. To break off relations with a neighbor with whom they need to develop, trade, cooperate was the stupidest decision

- he said.

The opposition in Germany can say whatever it wants, but the governments of the EU countries will still listen to commands from the United States.
For payments in the US $$$ for the overwhelming majority of countries around the world WHILE still remain the FINANCIAL collar pulling them off with a leash in the hands of the US FRS global bankers.

[Rubi0]

Localization is easily googled at least 50%, there are workshops for the production of microcircuits and printed circuit boards.

[Lena Petrova]

If we take, for example, Samsung washing machines in Kaluga, which are supplied to many EU countries, then localization there is about 75%. TV also produces a lot on the spot.

[Lesorub]

Quote: Rubi0

Are you sure that everything is imported? Yesterday, for the sake of interest, I climbed to see how much my Samsung plasma is eating, and was surprised that it was collected in Kaluga

An ingenious adage))) Samsung placed production in Russia, as well as other foreign manufacturers - can it be called domestic production - of course NO!

[Rubi0]

What are you looking for shit all over? Then you say that everything is imported, poked your nose that this is not so and localization is up to 75% now that the trademark is not domestic. Do you want to take over the whole world and make everything Russian or what? So even the USSR could not afford this, the same dishwasher and microwave washers never learned how to do it))))

[Lesorub]

Quote: Rubi0

Do you want to take over the whole world and make everything Russian or what? So even the USSR could not afford this, the same dishwasher and microwave washers never learned how to do it

Dear friend - do not break away from reality, the illusory world is pernicious - everything is clearly stated in the comment above (and there is no desire to explain who has the benefit of placing your production in another country - I think you will understand yourself)!

[Incvizitor]

But I just looked, almost all "European" hammers, grinders, lawn mowers, etc. are actually from China

[Looking for]

by and large, EVERYTHING !!!

[Looking for]

Why do you still use a plasma TV ???

[Nikza]

Old things were done conscientiously. "Old" means "before Chinese". I have a TV
LCD Philips 42 ", assembled in Hungary. I will not say for sure, all documents are lost, but he is 15-16 years old. It works and works. And I don’t want to change it. What if it works?

[Crane]

I have a St. Petersburg philips

[Whatislove]

What difference does it make where the product is produced, if the production belongs to the West and they convert the ruble profit into dollars?

[Rubi0]

And you, by and large, do not care who owns the business, a Russian businessman or a Korean, that the one who makes money for himself is the purpose of the business. Another question is where is the production itself and what is the depth of processing, and, accordingly, the deductions of taxes at each stage of processing, many here are indignant that raw materials are driven abroad and cannot be processed, and when you give examples, a new song begins, this is not a domestic trademark. And what is a domestic brand in the global world that money can buy. The Chinese are riveting all brands from iPhones to Volvo, and they bought the Volvo with giblets and what next?

[Whatislove]

Considering that our capitalists also convert ruble profits into dollars, for convenience of storage, then yes, it does not. And why are you talking about taxes, if I'm talking about the increase in prices from the rise in the dollar exchange rate?

[Buffet]

Strange, but such a thought like this Bundestag deputy already sounded some 300 years ago. History must be taught and remembered. I think that the deputy does not want his descendants to speak Russian, but still retained their identity.

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: Doccor18

and almost everything is imported ...

To prevent this from happening, the sanctions turned out to be the impetus thanks to which we began to revive our production. Without which we will remain a gas station. And prices ... This is not because of the sanctions, but because - capitalism.

[tagil]

So now, quickly implement the Minsk agreements and get additional sanctions for their slow or improper implementation ???

[zloybond]

Yes, I think everything went up without import. Our products in the Kuban region have jumped by 40-50% since August. I always took eggs 140 - today 225 3 dozen. Sugar 26-28 and now 54 .... But milk .... then the question is in the studio - contracts for fighters are paid with pride with palm oil - it hits dairy production - cheaper .... And so on. In short. The government, I think, should (I repeat in my opinion) introduce and force trade networks to post everywhere a list of countries supporting sanctions against us. And urge everywhere and everywhere NOT to purchase their product. Let them think what they want. In any case, I try to do so.

[WIKI]

Quote: Krasnoyarsk

the sanctions forced our "smart heads" to start producing what was previously purchased for oil and gas dollars

Not only we have smart heads. “According to experts, in a number of cases it is not about replacing, but about re-exporting the same, mostly European,“ prohibited. ”For example, Norway, which supplied up to 40% of imported fish to the Russian Federation before the embargo, was replaced by Chile and the Faroe Islands , where today comes 20% and 16% respectively. At the same time, the supply of Norwegian fish to Chile has simultaneously increased threefold. Ecuador, from where 22% of fruits are now imported to Russia, has actually replaced the European Union on this market. in Europe by 7 times, which exceeds the volume of domestic consumption. The supply of vegetables from Europe to Russia has partially replaced China: the share of this country in imports is 21% against 8% in 2013. Meanwhile, in parallel, the PRC itself has tripled purchases of vegetables in the European Union.

[frruc]

It would be necessary to extend the list of products from the European Union, these are clothes and shoes (recently they have been selling various bullshit from Poland and Ukraine, they want to have the best in quality), household appliances (their quality has also been tending to zero lately), and vegetables and fruits, flowers, shrimp from "Belarus" is generally banned for import.

[halpat]

Quote: Krasnoyarsk

Quote: Irek

And our host, we will survive this.

And we will not just survive, but for our own benefit. Whoever said anything, but the sanctions forced our "smart heads" to start producing what was previously purchased for oil and gas dollars. And this is still a big plus.

Yesterday I was incredibly surprised when I watched the news on Russia 1.
Putin says sugar has risen in price by over 70% and so on.
And then they showed the shelves in some store with the same sugar.
So white granulated sugar in Finland costs 0,85 Euro / kg.
And in Russia it turns out from 2 to 3 euros per kg. And also the Russian packing is NOT 1 kg, but 900 gr.
I was not lazy and checked the cost of sugar on the Internet, Lenta stores and Finnish Citymarket.
The question is: will Russian sugar hucksters burst out of greed?
They just need to take the enterprises and drive them all to felling.
Together with the owners of retail chains.

[zwlad]

And in Russia it turns out from 2 to 3 euros per kg.

This is where you saw such a sugar? I just bought 58 re for 1 kg. And it's not at the cheapest store.
I was not too lazy to look at the Lenta website. 305-29 for 5 kg.
You are my friend balabol!

[halpat]

Quote: zwlad

And in Russia it turns out from 2 to 3 euros per kg.

This is where you saw such a sugar? I just bought 58 re for 1 kg. And it's not at the cheapest store.
I was not too lazy to look at the Lenta website. 305-29 for 5 kg.
You are my friend balabol!

Please screenshot

With a ribbon card and without a card.
And on TV yesterday, in general, 272 rubles / kg showed ... my jaw dropped too :) useful to check and compare.
Below is a screenshot of the price of Finnish sugar, there is also packaging, you can see everything.

Such cases
Finnish sugar is cheaper anyway !! Russian.
Despite the fact that in Finland everything is more expensive (all components of the cost of a product) - electricity, fuel, taxes (VAT 24% for example) and so on.

[zwlad]

It's like a glass of water, for some it is half empty, but for others it is half full.
Screen from the same site.

[halpat]

Well, I didn't climb that deep :))
For 45 rubles. I would have bought it myself. So this is ... mmm ... by weight or what?
What does the red 13% label in the upper left corner mean? or 45%?
13% or 45% sugar in the proposed product?

[zwlad]

the discount is 13% today. and so sugar is different and for 200 re you can find, if you try.

[VORON538]

So they foolishly and for 500 per kilo will find, for some reason, here, in Amurka, where sugar is not produced at all, it costs an average of 70 per kilo, and is mostly cheaper. loaf of bread under 500 Although in Moscow food prices are lower than in Blagoveshchensk, unless, of course, go shopping for the rich, for whom such shops in Moscow are created so that they, squeamish, do not stand in line with ordinary people!

[zwlad]

I didn't seem to see a bun for 500, but for 300 I definitely saw it in some supermarket. But in the same place on the next shelf for 35 re lies. Freedom of choice, so to speak.

[Alex Justice]

We need a law for the seller to indicate the price per unit of weight, as we have in Australia.

[Alex Justice]

NOT 1 kg, but 900 g

This is how they mislead buyers.
By law, we must have two prices on the price tag, the price of the product and the price per kilogram or per 100 grams. That is, the price of the product and the price per unit of weight. I only look at the price per unit of weight.

[ZAV69]

Quote: Halpat

So white granulated sugar in Finland costs 0,85 Euro / kg.
And in Russia it turns out from 2 to 3 euros per kg. And also the Russian packing is NOT 1 kg, but 900 gr.

Where did you find such sugar? Today I bought 45 rubles per kilogram in the Lika store. In "Magnet" the price is the same. Oh, yes, this is the Tula region. And sugar has really risen in price, a month ago in "Magnet" it was around 30 rubles

[frruc]

And when will these same countries refuse to export capital and, at the same time, natural resources from the Russian Federation?

[aleksejkabanets]

Quote: Irek

And our host, we will survive this.

Sanctions are not important; rather, they should be viewed as unfair competition. What matters is that Russia is flirting with German neo-fascists. "Alternative for Germany" is a neo-Nazi party that allows itself to justify the "Third Reich". I personally find it difficult to understand how this is combined with the "Immortal Regiment" and the celebration of "Victory Day".

[Operator]

We are "flirting" with everyone in the West: with the centrists, and with the left, and with the right - so that when the social turmoil begins, the forces of the opposing sides are equal

[aleksejkabanets]

Quote: Operator

so that when the social turmoil begins in the West,

I especially liked it. And when will it start, tell me? For this it is necessary to accept the fascists in the Kremlin, so that the "social turmoil" in the West would begin? So will we win?

[Operator]

The BLM movements and the statements of the governors of 17 American states about the need to hold new presidential elections in the United States in connection with the rigging of the past are not enough for you?

[aleksejkabanets]

Quote: Operator

The BLM movements and the statements of the governors of 17 American states about the need to hold new presidential elections in the United States in connection with the rigging of the past are not enough for you?

What do you think? What is "america"?

[Operator]

Let's wait and see, but the trend is on the face and we just need to carefully stimulate it in strict accordance with the US policy to stimulate the collapse of the USSR.

[anjey]

We are trying to play "American", like the Yankees, supporting and stirring up all sides at the beginning of the Great Battle and then identifying the strongest, bet on him and assigning the main laurels of victory to our loved ones, for the states it is an old "political stamp", in other words, like the ancient Romans said divide and conquer

[A. Privalov]

Quote: aleksejkabanets

Sanctions are not important; rather, they should be viewed as unfair competition. What matters is that Russia is flirting with German neo-fascists. "Alternative for Germany" is a neo-Nazi party that allows itself to justify the "Third Reich". I personally find it difficult to understand how this is combined with the "Immortal Regiment" and the celebration of "Victory Day".

This is you in vain. Waldemar Gerdt can be said to be "his own man" in the Bundestag!
Look: he was born in 1962 in the village of Zabelovka, Zhitikarinsky District, Kustanai Region, Tselinny Territory, Kazakh SSR.

In 1984 he successfully graduated from the Institute of Agriculture in the Kazakh SSR and received a diploma in agricultural engineer. From 1984-1985 he served in the ranks of the Soviet Army. In 1989-1991 he was the 1st secretary of the Komsomol in Kazakhstan. From 1991-1993 he worked as chairman of a collective farm in Kazakhstan.

In 1993 he moved with his family to Germany, where he worked in a private farm in Neuenkirchen-Vorden (Lower Saxony); since 1996 - a private entrepreneur in the construction and financial sector. In the elections in 2017, he was elected to the German parliament.

And the program of the party openly propagandizing racism, Islamophobia, anti-Semitism and xenophobia, while simultaneously "hitting" presumptuous oligarchs with harsh criticism of their exorbitant incomes and at the same time advocating the lifting of Germany's international sanctions against Russia and supporting Russia's position on a number of international issues (on the war in southeastern Ukraine and the civil war in Syria) will easily find a response in the hearts of many Russians. These are soul mates in their purest form!

[aleksejkabanets]

Quote: A. Privalov

.... will easily find a response in the hearts of many Russians. These are soul mates in their purest form!

This is what worries me most. In moments like today, the alternative to the left is always fascists. That is why the authorities flirt with them. However, it is not clear to me how fascism can be built in a multinational and multi-confessional country?

[A. Privalov]

Quote: aleksejkabanets

However, it is not clear to me how fascism can be built in a multinational and multi-confessional country?

Elementary. There are historical precedents. In such countries, fascism raises its head even easier than in countries that are practically mono-confessional and mono-national. Compare Germanic and Italian.

[aleksejkabanets]

Quote: A. Privalov

Compare German and Italian.

Surkov's article "Putin's Long State" was a wake-up call for me. And you are probably right, "Italian type" fascism can be built in a multinational state. And, apparently, it is already under construction. A kind of ugly entity, with an admixture of neo-feudal clannishness.

[Bolt cutter]

openly advocating racism, Islamophobia, anti-Semitism and xenophobia

According to German law, everyone would be in prison. Another thing is that the Germans got a taste of multiculturalism and multiconfessionalism. Yes, and this is an expensive hobby for them.

[aleksejkabanets]

Quote: Bolt Cutter

According to German law, everyone would be in prison. Another thing is that the Germans got a taste of multiculturalism and multiconfessionalism. Yes, and this is an expensive hobby for them.

No Colleague, you are wrong. They sat down if they openly justified Nazi criminals and promoted racial superiority, but there is nothing for that. Read for this game, its program, what was noted, etc. If you look from the class positions, you will see that corporatism (aka solidarism, aka fascism) is very beneficial to the bourgeoisie as a class. Just imagine you and Abromovich, for example, together in one team, both working for the good of a great country surrounded by enemies, each in his place. Very convenient, isn't it?

[Bolt cutter]

You and Abromovich,

The Germans do not have Abromovichs, who got rich from scratch in three years. I read the program - they want to stop diluting their people with aggressive beggars refugees strangers. The Germans are beginning to realize that something is not right.

[aleksejkabanets]

Quote: Bolt Cutter

The Germans do not have Abromovichs, who got rich from scratch in three years. I read the program, they want to stop diluting their people with aggressive beggar strangers. The Germans are beginning to realize that something is wrong.

They have Krupps and other nasty things that got rich 100 years ago, what's the difference?
In order to "stop diluting your people with aggressive beggar strangers", you just have to pay more to your own, local workers, and not import migrants from anywhere. This is not only about the Germans. But in any case, the root of the problem is not in these migrants, but in those who bring them into the country.

[Bolt cutter]

just pay more to their, local workers

German workers are paid very well. Migrants do not go as a labor force, but as poor unfortunates who need to live well at someone's expense. The current government, guided by them, migrants, inalienable rights, settles them in Germany and supports them and their families. The government does not intend to abandon this grotesque policy. Therefore, those movements that do not suit this are gaining strength.

[aleksejkabanets]

Quote: Bolt Cutter

Migrants do not travel as a labor force, but as poor unfortunates who need to live well at someone's expense.

Do you yourself believe in it? Judge by deeds, ignore words.

Quote: Bolt Cutter

The current government, guided by them, migrants, inalienable rights, settles them in Germany and supports them and their families.

If not they, then their children will replace the Germans in low-paid jobs, such as janitors and so on (does not resemble Tajiks?)

Quote: Bolt Cutter

The government does not intend to abandon this grotesque policy. Therefore, those movements that do not suit this are gaining strength.

I agree, but many of them "come from the wrong end." A vivid example is the multinational USSR, organized according to a different principle and with different values.

[Bolt cutter]

Do you yourself believe that?

I live there and I see it. You don't have to believe me.

If not them, then their children will replace the Germans in low-paid jobs

No. They come to Europe not to work for us, but to live in our place. They have their own subculture, they do not mix with the "indigenous" and despise them.

the multinational USSR, organized according to a different principle and with different values.

And where is the USSR now?

[aleksejkabanets]

Quote: Bolt Cutter

No. They come to Europe not to work for us, but to live in our place. They have their own subculture, they do not mix with the "indigenous" and despise them.

And there is. In the same way, migrants from Central Asia come to Russia, there are just few of them. They do not come themselves, because they create conditions for their arrival. Who is doing this and why? Only without mysticism, please.

Quote: Bolt Cutter

And where is the USSR now?

This is not about that, you yourself know what has taken its place today.

[Bolt cutter]

In the same way, migrants from Central Asia come to Russia,

Uh ... no. It's like comparing a car and a drug addict because they are both on wheels. "Refugees" in Europe are taking refuge from the oppression of war, homophobia and everything else. They are given housing, money, places in educational institutions. The Uzbeks go exactly as workers.

[aleksejkabanets]

Quote: Bolt Cutter

It's like comparing a car and a drug addict .....

Simply the result is the same, the same diasporas and so on, although, of course, when they go to the country to have a rest, it doesn’t fit into any gate. Only those who invite them are to blame for this, for what they need them, they just do nothing.

[cat Rusich]

Quote: aleksejkabanets

In order to "stop diluting your people with aggressive beggar strangers", you just have to pay more to your own, local workers, and not import migrants from anywhere. This is not only about the Germans. But in any case, the root of the problem is not in these migrants, but in those who bring them into the country.

Import agreement Turkish guest workers in Germany it was signed in 1961. + Family reunification Turkish workers = up to 4 million "people of Turkish origin" ...

[Incvizitor]

I am more worried that those in power in the Russian Federation of those ruling fascists that are in power in the West are called partners.

[Crimean partisan 1974]

And our army, we will survive this too ... but what exactly will we worry about !!! ... the question is, to increase economic education

[Deniska999]

We are one organism with Europe. All these sanctions are like scolding two spouses.

[aleksejkabanets]

Quote: Deniska999

We are one organism with Europe. All these sanctions are like scolding two spouses.

It was especially evident that a single organism, in 1812 and 1941.

[fuel oil]

You can safely add 1855 ...

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Deniska999

We are one organism with Europe. All these sanctions are like scolding two spouses.

As they say, "I would have seen such wives in a coffin."

[sabakina]

Quote: tihonmarine

Quote: Deniska999

We are one organism with Europe. All these sanctions are like scolding two spouses.

As they say, "I would have seen such wives in a coffin."

It won't help, some wives will get it from the other world.

[frruc]

Well, if we consider the Russian Federation as a supplier of resources (monetary, natural, intellectual and human) for the European organism, then of course. Not funny....

[Ulysses]

Worm opinion.
Europe has always been a parasite on Russia.

[Antonio_Mariarti]

Yeah, they survived so much, they became 2 times poorer in 2014-2016. Not bad. And what will become better is not even visible. To start "bullish" to the West, when, from investment to main buyers, is it the same for Japan to be in the US somewhere in 60, what the US would do with it? Crushed.

[Ulysses]

Katz offers to surrender ??

[Antonio_Mariarti]

Quote: Ulysses

Katz offers to surrender ??

What does Katz have to do with it? I do not belong to the liberals, rather to the more right-wing.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Irek

And our host, we will survive this.

for the sake of truth, no one has introduced a real sanction against us, although, unlike the Union, if they had introduced little it would not have seemed to us
this even the situation with the production of the vaccine against covid showed

[Ulysses]

Old tales about the main thing.
The sanctions did not work against the great USSR, it collapsed due to some misunderstanding.
And some terrible sanctions can be introduced against Russia, which we do not even know about.

About the vaccine can be more detailed ??

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Ulysses

he broke up due to some misunderstanding.

well, definitely not because of the sanctions

Quote: Ulysses

About the vaccine can be more detailed ??

and what more details there is not enough capacity for the production of our own, much more

[Ulysses]

Uh-huh, they lived happily, there were only heaps of it.
And then August 91st.

Here, in the spring, howling was about the lack of artificial respiration.
Now you have a new feature ??

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Ulysses

Uh-huh, they lived happily, there were only heaps of

but can you specifically say what was missing PERSONALLY YOU?

Quote: Ulysses

Here, in the spring, howling was about the lack of artificial respiration.
Now you have a new feature ??

I will not say anything about mechanical ventilation, I do not know, but if we analyze ALL statements about the vaccine and about proposals for supply and placement, then a number of questions arise.

[Ulysses]

What are some of the questions?
Try to formulate.

Personally, it was enough for me, but I was ashamed when my mother (I’ll note the officer’s wife) was running from Kaliningrad to Vilnius for groceries.
And it was in the mid-70s.
Despite the fact that KO was a manufacturer of s / s products on all maps.

There was enough food, the question is how it was obtained.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Ulysses

Personally, it was enough for me, but I was ashamed when my mother (I’ll note the officer’s wife) was running from Kaliningrad to Vilnius for groceries.

but I know that they didn’t live badly in KO and didn’t go anywhere except to the market for the sale of sour cream

Quote: Ulysses

There was enough food, the question is how it was obtained.
Reply
Quote

well enough "earner" I kind of lived the same then

[Ulysses]

You didn’t live in the Arbat military district?
Tady is clear where your "knowledge" comes from.
My father, a starley artilleryman from the rem base (which was located on Artillery Street in the 70s), did not know how to produce sour cream from trunks in order to carry it to the market.
Leave your bullshit about a happy life for the sect of Platoshkin and K.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Ulysses

I didn’t know how to make sour cream from trunks in order to carry it to the market.

well, go to the market and buy from those who knew how

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Ulysses

What are some of the questions?
Try to formulate

if you don't see them yourself, then there is no point in showing them

[Ulysses]

Balabol with three stars on ave.
VO has become the fiefdom of such old senile people.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

judging by YOUR opuses, you are not very young

[Ulysses]

I do not suffer from marasmus, therefore I will not grow up to your stars here.
On the internet, a maximum of an hour a day, my time and affairs are dear to me even above the roof.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Ulysses

Online for a maximum of an hour a day

and I work in it for 8 hours only here, at most an hour a week

[Ulysses]

This clarifies a lot.
On the street, in the real world we go out exclusively to eat to buy ??

You about real, you about me inetovskoe through the looking glass.
We do not understand each other.

PS I work on the street, new knowledge every day.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Ulysses

You about the real, you tell me about the Internet through the looking glass.

my dear, about those times about which you are lying, there was no tyrnet

Quote: Ulysses

PS I work on the street, new knowledge every day.

happy for you, very happy

Quote: Ulysses

On the street, in the real world we go out exclusively to eat to buy ??

my joy, I live in the forest, or rather, at the very edge, believe me, I've seen enough of the real world

it’s 20 meters from the house I dug a hole under an apple tree so I don’t need fairy tales about the real world, I know him better than you

[Ulysses]

Well, if for you the forest is the real world.
Forward (or rather back) to the pampas.
Maybe at least there you will understand how the real world order differs from ideological perversions.
You are our truthful ..

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Ulysses

from ideological perversions.

give an example of ideological perversion

[Ulysses]

Communist Builder Code of Ethics.


By 1980 (the official ribbon cutting) no one believed in bikes.


One "Soviet people".
Another eyewash.
Where was he in August 91st ??
The outskirts were on fire long before that, it was enough to weaken the center of influence, and nationalism easily swept away the international chimera.

Find me a country in the post-Soviet space where your ideals of brotherhood of peoples of a previously united country have been preserved?

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

apparently you do not quite understand the essence of the terms you use
Moreover, you absolutely do not understand the fact that "white" and "black" always exist regardless of your preferences, by the way, if tomorrow you find out that for theft, nothing will happen, well, nothing at all, not the fact that you will not rob a neighboring electronics store

[Starover_Z]

All EU countries supported the extension of sanctions against Russia

In this case, shouldn't we send all these "partners" just at the beginning of winter, with all their sanctions and fines, far, far away and stop supplying everything for which contracts were previously concluded ?!
One "vegetable garden" they will not calm down until you put something heavy on them!
All the same, sanctions apply to everything and the West does not calm down!

[Ulysses]

If the bar is bent, it is quite logical.
"In connection with the sanctions and force majeure through their fault", get our Western "partners" a New Year's gift.
And warn the assholes now.
On all diplomatic channels.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Ulysses

In connection with the sanctions and force majeure due to their fault ", get our Western" partners "a New Year's gift.

calm down, we will calm down and we will quietly flow around
what is there about the iron arguments of the gaprem, how did the Sumerians get them? !!!!
what about the debt of Sumeria in three lard with which we were sent and we go? !!!!
so what is needed about the force majeure and the rest, either the leadership does not have enough courage or they are very tightly held by the Faberge

[Machete]

Has anyone noticed this at all?
A gathering of mongrels in a pandemic and crisis continues to cut the bitches on which they sit.

[marchcat]

Yes, let them chop, soon they will "claw" on the trunks or head down.

[Kronos]

How do they cut the bitches by imposing sanctions against Russia?

[Machete]

And what, someone canceled the trade?
The opposition in the EU has been whining for many years about the decline in trade due to mutual sanctions. But the main thing for the ruling elite is to lick overseas. And again, oral sex is prolonged.
Here, just, everything is obvious.
We need to solve problems together, but ...

[Crimean partisan 1974]

Someone noticed this at all? .... well, the population did not notice anything except for raising the retirement age ... and so the German burghers really noticed ... the energy loop is like that. Itiomat against the background of the closure of their own nuclear power plants ... there will still be ... people are already dark - the darkness has been dismissed and still will be fired ... all the more so, the gutters, harvest collectors and babysitters with a request ... I apologize to the SPSO with wnau they will not replace highly qualified German specialists ...

[Mykhalych]

What, someone was expecting something else? Everything is expected, without intrigue and surprises. And then telephone calls and visits to the President of Russia will begin ... Predictably.

[DEVIL LIFE`S]

They have nothing else to do?

[pereselenec]

All EU countries supported the extension of sanctions against Russia

Well, that means it will be more useful for us, right, men?

[nikolas 83]

And we give them gas. Well, partners.

[Lipchanin]

Quote: nikolas 83

And we give them gas

Free?

[Ulysses]

"Newbie" in a convenient package for them.
Time-tested quality.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: nikolas 83

And we give them gas. Well, partners.

These partners in 1941, the whole Caudal climbed into Russia together with Hitler.

[kit88]

So this is their European folk tradition - once in a hundred years to go to Russia for pretzels.

[Lipchanin]

Earlier it was reported that the European Union intends to continue the sanctions pressure on Russia for another six months.

It was a shot in the knee.

With a ricochet to the head

[frruc]

Nothing wrong . The main sponsors of the EU, Germany and France, will help all their "partners", they will not let them fall into the abyss, they have a lot of money.

[Pilot]

Well, schaz will cry from all the electrical appliances on duty lamentations, overflowing with concerns. A weak iron curtain to raise? .. oops, now the site cheers-liberal women will win the market ..

[pereselenec]

A weak iron curtain to raise? .. oops, now the site cheers-liberal women will win the market ..

The first to win not cheers-liberals, but Peskov and Solovyov.

[Pilot]

And how are these market cheers-liberals different from the licks? Well, except that the pump is much smaller in size, and the rest are the same, the tourists ... unless of course you take into account the Russian proverb about fools in Russia for 100 years, and paid trolls.
PS ..von 5 ,, Tourists ,, have already noted minuses, saw themselves.

[Ulysses]

Excuse me, are you broadcasting here from the phone booth?

[Mountain shooter]

All this sanctions pressure on Russia is, frankly, hardly perceptible. It affected the impossibility of borrowing "cheap money" from the West ... Well, the rate dropped dramatically in our country, the benefits for banks were not so great. Products? They both buy and buy from us.
And they sell what we need ...

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

All this sanctions pressure on Russia is, frankly, little perceptible

This is all window dressing
In geyrope they have long understood that they cannot do without Russia, but friendship with the striped ones is the way to nowhere.
They impose sanctions against their own

[Ulysses]

Judging by the downsides, "Navalny's New Communists and sectarians" rule the site.
It is sad.

And they won't answer, at best they will stupidly minus.

[tihonmarine]

It was a shot in the knee. To break off relations with a neighbor with whom they need to develop, trade, cooperate was the stupidest decision

When the gas is Russian, and when the sanctions are European. Rotten folk.

[Antonio_Mariarti]

Eh, import substitution failed, especially in the most important and PR - grocery.

[Crimean partisan 1974]

import substitution failed, especially in the most important and PR - grocery ... but you can be curious ... in which particular area the grocery failure came out ...

[WIKI]

Quote: Crimean partisan 1974

. but you can be curious ... in which particular area the grocery failure came out ...

"So, in the 8 years that have passed since the adoption of the import substitution strategy in Russia, calculated until 2020, only meat imports have been significantly reduced in the food market - by 65%, but this is still 2,8 p.p. less than inherent in the strategy.
Exports of dairy products by the end of 2020 decreased by 20% instead of the 30% proclaimed in the strategy, fruits and vegetables - by 11% instead of the planned 20%. The situation turned out to be a failure with the reduction of vegetable imports: it was envisaged that by 2020 their imports would decrease by 70,3%, in fact, by 27%. "

[Crimean partisan 1974]

The situation turned out to be a failure with the reduction of vegetable imports: it was envisaged that by 2020 their import would be reduced by 70,3%, in fact it was 27%. "........ I don’t know ... they are numbers .. but ... in local chips in our district, exactly like in retail chains of markets, I even did not find imported products, and for a very long time ... why is there something that does not stick with the given numbers and reality ... it is unlikely that the owners of chips and the markets were hiding imported goods .... there was simply no sense ... so why do the figures differ from reality .....

[WIKI]

This is why they disagree that there are many cunning people who want to make money, and the government closes its eyes on this problem for what purpose (already commented above): the same, mainly European, “banned.” For example, Norway, which supplied up to 40% of imported fish to the Russian Federation before the embargo, was replaced by Chile and the Faroe Islands, from where, respectively, 20% and 16% are supplied. Ecuador, from where 22% of fruits are now imported to Russia, actually replaced the European Union in this market. However, recently Ecuador itself has increased purchases of these products in Europe by 7 times, which exceeds the volume of domestic consumption. replaced China: the share of this country in imports is 21% against 8% in 2013. Meanwhile, in parallel, the PRC itself has tripled purchases of vegetables in the European Union. "

[Crimean partisan 1974]

we are not talking about substitution, but about re-export ..... well, then we had to start right away. what they say de. some speculators on Russian state funds are buying goods through second countries, but the goods do not reach Russia ... these are Nikitos's words. there is kiwi. bananas ,. pineapples is understandable .... and everything else is different .... for three years salmon and trout appeared on the shelves three times cheaper than before ..... that's why I answer that something doesn't stick. but it turns out it is re-export and not import ... well, Duc would immediately talk about it. and then out of the water and in the glow

[WIKI]

Quote: Crimean partisan 1974

but it turns out it is re-export and not import.

Re-export is the same import, only the goods do not come directly, but through third countries. Re-export is the export from a country (Chile) of goods previously imported into it (from Norway) for resale to other countries.

[Crimean partisan 1974]

for resale to other countries ....... well, Duc, then this is it ... to other countries at public expense but not in the Russian Federation ..... now like in a fairy tale about a Thumbelina --- let's count dear moles- - 5 years ago, herring and mackerel (I am not personally interested in who was caught by our fishermen or the Norwegians) as it cost 160-180 rubles and is now ... if through Chile. then let's calculate the costs --- catching, transportation for freezing. loading onto transport. transportation to the ground ball of the terrestrial iiii ..... this Norwegian herring and mackerel will have to cost at least 800 rubles, ... who does it for .... is needed when the trout and salmon are much cheaper ..... so do not it’s worth blotting out people’s heads about --- Re-export, this is the same import ... they also carry out operations for the purchase of coal in South Africa ..... they buy coal in the DPR and the transportation costs of "coal supplies from South Africa" ​​go into their pockets

[WIKI]

Quote: Crimean partisan 1974

if through Chile. then let's calculate the costs

"Leading Norwegian salmon producers are considering shipping their Chilean products to Russia (1914).

"We expect that part of the Russian demand (for salmon - IF) can be covered by our products from Chile, and the resulting deficit (in other countries, including Chile) will be eliminated by supplying fish from Norway," the media quotes the words of a representative of the fish company Cermaq, one of the largest Norwegian salmon producers, about half of whose production is located in Chile. "The whole mechanism.

[Crimean partisan 1974]

will be eliminated due to the supply of fish from Norway ", - the media quotes the words of the representative of the fish company Cermaq, which is one ... ... but that's not a problem ... the wholesale price of Norwegian salmon for 2020 is from 8 to 10 greenbahls that at the moment, 500-600 rubles per kg. and retail increases their markup by about 10 percent, that is, the price of salmon on the shelves will be about 700-800 rubles ... then the question is ... why today the price of salmon is on the counter 220-230 rubles per kg.trout 260-280 rubles per kilo ....... what turns out ... the Norwegians feed us at a loss ....... so it's not good to lie ... this is how one of the idiots on this branch charged about 3 euros for sugar in the Russian Federation .... this is where such a speculative Klondike so that 300 rubles per kilo of sugar ....... come over there and carry trucks at 45 rubles per kilo ... do not deceive yourself and others ... tea is not bast, there are noodles and forks ... this is ... from the ears then that ... remove

[WIKI]

Quote: Crimean partisan 1974

Lying is bad.

I don't know about yours, but here in Russia: https://ekorfish.com/catalog/semga-losos-okhlazhdennyy/
https://ekorfish.com/search/?q=%F4%EE%F0%E5%EB%FC&s=%CF%EE%E8%F1%EA
https://lenta.com/search/?searchText=Лосось

[Crimean partisan 1974]

I don't know about you, but here in Russia ..... Crimea is a constituent entity of the Russian Federation. I don’t know what is where you are out there in a foreign country ... and I don’t need to send them, I don’t go to trash heaps ... in my own words, if possible ..

[Ulysses]

Do not bear frank crap.

[askort154]

All EU countries supported the extension of sanctions against Russia

For 70 years they criticized the USSR for the system of government in the state.
All issues were resolved in the "political bureau", the rest of the republics at their command - voted - "FOR". They called it "usurpation of freedom."
Today they themselves find themselves in the same control system.
All issues are resolved in the USA and at their command, all EU countries
vote - "FOR". But they call it - "democracy".

[iouris]

The EU is one country - the EU. The number of embassies could be reduced to one.

[rotmistr60]

In my opinion, this is the only thing in which the EU is in solidarity. Earlier there were timid statements from representatives of individual countries that it was time to lift the sanctions, which were not damaging Russia as much as their countries. Today, united in a united front in opposition to Russia, they decided to extend it for another half year. They are weakening their own economy with their own hands. "Durik, why did you shave off your mustache?" ("The Diamond Arm").

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

Let it be extended. Maybe we will develop our economy. And the Kremlin, it's time to take off its rose-colored glasses and not send chemical troops to fight the covid in prosperous Italy.

[frruc]

The EU needs to extend these sanctions for a five-year period at once, why chew snot or they have no other questions at the summits.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

no one will ever lift the sanctions

[Aleksey Aleksandrovich]

If all the EU members voted against the sanction, then I would really be fucked up. And so, everything goes on as usual. We were once again condemned for being incorrect and inconsistent with high European standards ... So everything is fine. The sanctions were extended and the bolt on them ... we live on.

[zsdk]

In vain, only our specialists were sent to Italy to wash away the infection. It is high time to understand that they are not looking for good from good.

[Jarilo]

Import substitution - pulled the "heritage of Russia" (c) to China.

[Niel-le-Calais]

like sanctions are useful.
This is good news.
The opposition always says the opposite to those acting. And even if you change it to the current one, the principle of presentation does not change.

[Aleksey Aleksandrovich]

Quote: Niel-le-Calais

The opposition always says the opposite to those acting.

Do we have opposition?

[Andobor]

Quote: Alexey Alexandrovich

Do we have opposition?

We have no opposition, its hired cpa trampled down, - cranny loot. The whole world gives money.
And no one here loves crap, so the authorities do what they want.

[Shkodnik65]

No, but at least someone doubted?

[Galleon]

It is in vain to wait annually for the lifting of sanctions. They are used to it and we are used to it. Right now, 3 floors below where I am writing this, they sell jamon and imported cheeses for those who miss them. Attached reason - the Minsk agreements are for decades. Or it is necessary to remake the whole of Europe again, just why should it be remade, their "good" to rake with their own hands?
So it is better to delete the topic of sanctions from the agenda altogether and live on it without looking back. And our fat-faced people go to the Council of Europe, so you can't ban them anyway.

[Alexander X]

From the point of view of the layman, I argue: the EU, in fact, is a new formation hostile to Russia. And if so, then the more correct Russia pursues a policy for its prosperity and does not allow itself to be robbed, the worse it becomes for the EU members to rob Russia, and therefore they get angry, and therefore the sanctions, because they cannot do anything. But Borka, a drunkard, lay before the West, and he was a crap friend ... And a marked restaurateur, sold the interests of Russia and immediately became a handshake

[Vladimir61]

They extended it again ... They will again sign up in line to personally inform about Russia's isolation.

[Knell wardenheart]

This is actually the end of the legends and myths about the "EU split over the issue of sanctions."
It was worth expecting, even during a pandemic and a general drop in purchasing power.
A total collapse in the direction of our European foreign policy, to be honest.

[Gennady Fomkin]

Maybe on something

Quote: Doccor18

we will not just survive, but for our own benefit.

I noticed these "benefits" for the people. Prices go up for everything, especially for imported ones, and imported almost everything ...

All EU countries supported the extension of sanctions against Russia

Well, at least in something they are united ...

Will you be worried about what washing machines are doing in Krasnoyarsk?

[Gennady Fomkin]

Quote: Knell Wardenheart

This is actually the end of the legends and myths about the "EU split over the issue of sanctions."
It was worth expecting, even during a pandemic and a general drop in purchasing power.
A total collapse in the direction of our European foreign policy, to be honest.

Here is such a "response" to sanctions and counter-sanctions from those who have only learned to mediate and buy ...

Norway, which supplied up to 40% of imported fish to the Russian Federation before the embargo, was replaced by Chile and the Faroe Islands, where 20% and 16%, respectively, come from, respectively. At the same time, supplies of Norwegian fish to Chile have tripled at the same time. Ecuador, from where 22% of fruit is now imported to Russia, has actually replaced the European Union in this market. However, analysts have found out that recently Ecuador itself has increased purchases of these products in Europe seven times, which exceeds the volume of domestic consumption. But not at all in the one about which the political informers gloatingly bend us. Out of the blue and in an instant, Ecuador will not be covered with blooming apple trees, as on Mars. Increasing the collection of fruits and vegetables is impossible in real life. And everyone knows this very well.

[Gennady Fomkin]

Che is all about grub and grub.

"Zarodnikam" in the trough do not report? The Vlasovites from the pink rat rat have a permanent hysteria from the successes of Russia

[Gennady Fomkin]

In the EU, a discussion is unfolding on decision-making on foreign policy issues. Members of the European Parliament raised the issue of its revision in a letter to German Foreign Minister H. Maas with a request to promote a solution to the issue within the framework of Germany's EU presidency. In particular, they advocate replacing the consensus principle with the qualified majority principle. Such a replacement is hardly possible for all solutions, since it requires a revision of the fundamental mechanisms of the EU's functioning. Resistance to such a decision from a number of states is also likely. However, the introduction of a qualified majority principle in decision-making is possible for individual mechanisms. For example, the EU is discussing a new mechanism for human rights sanctions (“EU Magnitsky Act”). This mechanism itself can be approved by consensus. But decisions on specific persons subject to sanctions can be made by a qualified majority. All sanctions are bullshit.

Only the sanctions of the UN Security Council are legitimate, the rest are gag. Politics doesn’t lead a good neighbor to shit at the door, it’s a childish idea of ​​life.

[Gennady Fomkin]

Illnesses will not calm down, "changes"  sanctions, we are waiting for the "change" of the sanctions! )

[Gennady Fomkin]

The fine for these violations could have amounted to USD 9. But Eagle Shipping voluntarily admitted to wrongdoing. In addition, the new management of the company worked closely with OFAC during the investigation and also took steps to remedy the situation. In particular, an internal investigation was organized, and the company's sanctioned compliance program was improved.

 And what? didn’t put anyone?

[Gennady Fomkin]

In general, the sanctions mechanism clearly shows that the United States is not a state, but a kaganate. And it is headed not by the elite, but by the hucksters. The hucksters in communication use the mechanism of economic influence that they understand. But a state led by the elite would quickly resort to negotiation and military mechanisms of influence. For the United States, the military mechanism is limited to countries and regions that are technically and organizationally incomparable with their exclusively mercenary army that is ready to kill, but not ready to die for the interests of the US huckster. The hucksters realize that with a proposal to bend Russia, China, Iran by military force, the mercenaries will simply send the hucksters themselves. And there is nothing to offer the hucksters in the negotiation format except for another lie for sale.

[Gennady Fomkin]

It looks like a completely hopeless US economic war against the whole world. In fact, there is a limitation - a narrowing of the market for their companies in favor of others.

Shooting in your own leg will inevitably lead to its amputation ... The bullet will find the hole. It is strange that the sanctioners do not calculate this. 

Subsanctions inevitably combine with unpleasant consequences for "hehemon"

[orionvitt]

EU economic sanctions against Russia

Long live democracy. however, this is probably different.

[Incvizitor]

This is very encouraging, because at least our bureaucrats will not trade with enemies and the goods will be their own.
I would be much more saddened by the news: Geyropa lifts sanctions, Russia buys garbage from Geyropa and abandons its production, development and agriculture.

[16112014nk]

"If everyone is against you, then you are the strongest. Therefore, in order not to lose the battle with you alone, they are fighting against you together." ©

[Petrik66]

The world is changing, and we still have wars between Everything is gone and the Sun is rising In the West and between the USSR - Russia is still everything ..... We have already kicked our ass with our existence. We live better than in the USSR and I don't care about our GDP in relation to the world, but Russia is cool !!!!! And who thinks differently, so sit at home, and come, we will bury YOU ALL, there is a lot of space.

[frols]

Well, probably soon the division of aid from the EU budget to overcome the consequences of the virus, so they got excited, afraid that they would be deprived. In Latvia, the first wave passed almost imperceptibly and gave little money, but now the measures are being tightened, and some are not at all logical, and the incidence is growing day by day.

[faterdom]

Not enough. We will not feel anything like that.
We should also have bills and apartments in London, castles in France, yachts in Monaco confiscated, football clubs with basketball together. Moreover, there is one living in Austria with a stain - turn off the sewer for him.
Otherwise it doesn't reach us, we laugh and scoff at your sanctions!
And we do not think to correct our bad behavior!
And here - we will immediately be afraid and now - we can be proud - the sanctions worked!

[Ulysses]

Quote: Gennady Fomkin

Illnesses will not calm down, "changes"  sanctions, we are waiting for the "change" of the sanctions! )

An interesting kaganate on the site gathered from "back to the USSR" and "we are waiting for democratic changes."
The main thing is to throw off the system, and what about the country and they themselves will be network "fighters" for the time being does not care much.
They do not know history, do not learn from mistakes, blindly believe in a bright future.
For each his own.

[Ulysses]

Quote: Knell Wardenheart

This is actually the end of the legends and myths about the "EU split over the issue of sanctions."
It was worth expecting, even during a pandemic and a general drop in purchasing power.
A total collapse in the direction of our European foreign policy, to be honest.

Excuse me, what's the crash?
That we are in will "old world, Europe" do not believe ??
Possible.
Now you can safely send it to the scrap (consumers of our hydrocarbons and gas), nothing more.
Europe itself did not understand how its New USSR fell into complete dependence on the commissars from Brussels ..
And it will only get worse.

Do we also save the Eurokolkhoz?
Nafik didn't give up.

[agoran]

What excuse me, in the ass sanctions?
I have everything local, like chicken or pork tenderloin, chilled.
Yes, the fish costs like a span of a bridge, fuck it, I’ll catch a local one, I’ll get soot, I won’t buy in principle, well, it’s not worth that much money.

[Ulysses]

Quote: agoran

What excuse me, in the ass sanctions?
I have everything local, like chicken or pork tenderloin, chilled.
Yes, the fish costs like a span of a bridge, fuck it, I’ll catch a local one, I’ll get soot, I won’t buy in principle, well, it’s not worth that much money.

Can not be.
Here, some users of the fast Internet feed exclusively on hedgehog skins, interrupting with well water.

[agoran]

Yeah, and about gasoline bay.
Not only near the house, but also in the parking lots there are no places. Fainting.
In the refrigerator, the mouse hanged herself, the door from the sausage does not close.

[VORON538]

If they like to eat hedgehogs, that's their culinary preference.
I am interrupted by pork, beef, chicken, turkey, all from a local producer. Although in our Amurka not long ago, about 10 years ago, there was a dominance of imported meat. Now imported meat is practically invisible.

[Plowman]

Something Europe got into its mouth about the military occupation of Northern Cyprus in 1974 by Turkey. The fighting and the subsequent cleansing of the Greek Cypriots. She spat on the decisions of the UN, the ECHR and other bodies.

[Ulysses]

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

Quote: Ulysses

In connection with the sanctions and force majeure due to their fault ", get our Western" partners "a New Year's gift.

calm down, we will calm down and we will quietly flow around
what is there about the iron arguments of the gaprem, how did the Sumerians get them? !!!!
what about the debt of Sumeria in three lard with which we were sent and we go? !!!!
so what is needed about the force majeure and the rest, either the leadership does not have enough courage or they are very tightly held by the Faberge

The USSR quietly flowed around after the Cuban missile crisis.

Even I realized this in a specialized school.

There were many more years before "gaprёm".

PS Are you a beggar bum, from the laptop found in the garbage dump here?
Have a conscience to confess.

[Dalmatia]

Already on the drum))

[Yuri Zakharov]

There is no need for Russia to be in the EU organization. Today this organization of Europe (EU) is only engaged in constantly criticizing Russia, having a "whipping boy", listening to slobbering reproaches against our country and, as a rule, making decisions, as a rule, against Russian citizens and companies. We must stop paying huge amounts of money for criticizing and listening to arrogant European officials - how we should live, how we should "return" Crimea, "confess" that they "poisoned" Navalny and humbly listen to other nonsense. For this money, which we contribute to the maintenance of this worthless organization and a huge salary for officials, it was already possible to build many kindergartens, schools, improve the quality of medical equipment!

[Yellow bubble]

New Cold War, fact !!!

[Alexey from Perm]

They shoot themselves in the knee, but our heads ..