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Putin: "Look, no matter how we succeed, as in the Soviet Union - everything is there, but not everyone has enough"

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Speaking at a meeting with members of the government of the Russian Federation, President Vladimir Putin stressed that in the modern world, a situation should not be allowed when people have nothing to eat.


We will discuss all these topics in more detail at the next meeting on economic issues. But look, no matter how we succeed, as it was in the Soviet Union. Do you remember what they said then? They used to say: "The Soviet Union has everything, but not everyone has enough." But then there was not enough, because there was a deficit. And now it may not be enough, because people do not have enough money to purchase certain products at the prices that we observe on the market,

- said the head of state.

Of course, it is difficult to disagree with the words of the head of state. But on the other hand, we must not forget that Vladimir Vladimirovich has been at the head of state, in the posts of president and prime minister, for more than twenty years in aggregate. Therefore, if someone is to address the question of why people do not have enough money for food and why food is so expensive in relation to the salaries and pensions of Russians, then first of all it is to him, the head of the Russian state.

Now the Russian economy is really going through a difficult period, but a few years ago food prices were also not low, and in the same way, millions of Russians were forced to survive, choosing what to buy cheaper.

Neither sanctions, nor a pandemic, nor political contradictions and nor currency inflation are in this case the main reason for this situation. It cannot be said that Russia has no money. Therefore, the question here is rather ideological, or, more precisely, ideological: on all levels of the power vertical, at the head of corporations, companies, firms and small firms are people who are sincerely convinced that the people should be content with little, and even thank them for this little. We can recall the repeated statements of officials that “the macaroshki are always the same”, that parasites and drunks receive 8 thousand rubles of pensions, that no one forced them to give birth, and so on ...

Their own well-being and excessive consumption, including the acquisition of many houses and apartments, including those outside the country, entire car fleets, opening huge bank accounts, business owners and even government officials believe, even if they deny it in words, the most important and main task is not while admitting at the same time the thought of a possible increase in the wages of their employees or subordinates by cutting their own consumption, their own income.

If the most ordinary people see and understand this - from schoolchildren to pensioners, it would be strange to think that the head of state and his inner circle do not understand the real situation in the country. But speeches are needed, critical remarks are needed to calm people down and create the appearance of a "good tsar" in front of "bad boyars." Or the president is really hovering in the clouds, believing that local officials have long ago dealt with the economic problems of citizens.

In fact, behind the words that one should not allow the lack of money for food, it costs nothing, no decisions, even hypothetical ones. There are several million unemployed in the country and no one is particularly interested in what they eat, how they buy clothes, how they pay for utilities. The official size and procedure for the payment of unemployment benefits is such that in fact completely negates their entire meaning.

In fact, the only logical continuation of the president's words can only be the introduction of an unconditional basic income for every citizen of the country, at least in the amount that would be enough to purchase a minimum set of products, so as not to die of hunger, as they say. But so far even the richest countries in the world have not dared to take such a measure, what to say about our country. So reasoning remains reasoning, and reality remains reality, and you and I are well aware of this, and, I believe, the President in the first place.
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  1. faterdom
    faterdom 9 December 2020 17: 31
    +94
    Who did it? (from the sincere amazement of Ludwig Aristarkhovich)
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    2. Cool but not Igor
      Cool but not Igor 9 December 2020 17: 45
      +18
      Was he also banned? winked
      It's good that there are methods to bypass the ban due to violation of the stupid rules of the "directors" VO
      1. Ilya-spb
        Ilya-spb 9 December 2020 18: 18
        +60
        Look how it would not turn out, as in the Russian Empire. In 1917. In October.
        1. paul3390
          paul3390 9 December 2020 18: 22
          +76
          Mediocre few families
          By wealth and nods
          They own my homeland.
          Standing above all laws
          Wall stand around the king
          Like pugs greedy and angry
          And innocently saying:
          “After all, only we are Russia!”

          Maikov 1855
          1. seregin-s1
            seregin-s1 9 December 2020 18: 50
            +2
            1855 year
            Emperor Alexander II came to the Russian throne.
            January 26 - The Kingdom of Sardinia declared war on the Russian Empire by entering the Crimean War.
            April 9 - the second bombardment of Sevastopol by the allied army begins.
            May 24 - a French expeditionary force landed in Kerch (Crimea).
            June 18 (June 6, old style) - the allies unsuccessfully storm Sevastopol.
            August 16 - Russian troops unsuccessfully attack the positions of the allies in the Crimea on the Chorno River.
            After the fall of the Malakhov Kurgan, the Russian army left Sevastopol, flooding the remnants of the Black Sea Fleet.
            And what poetry could Maikov have? Having received an allowance for the first book from Nicholas I in the amount of 1000 rubles for a trip to Italy, he went abroad in 1842. Having seen Italy, France, Saxony and the Austrian Empire, Maikov returned to St. Petersburg in 1844. He wrote a Ph.D. thesis on Old Slavic law. Joined the Ministry of Finance.
            1. Civil
              Civil 9 December 2020 18: 58
              +19
              "The Russian people love to rebel!
              Kneel in front of the manor house and are scoundrels!
              And they know that they are rebelling and still stand! "
              M.E.Saltykov-Shchedrin.
              1. solzh
                solzh 10 December 2020 01: 10
                +39
                Quote: Civil
                M.E.Saltykov-Shchedrin.

                Saltykov-Shchedrin did not say or write that. He does not have this quote. It is said that someone changed a passage from the "History of a City":
                "And the Foolovites were on their knees and waited. They knew that they were rebelling, but they could not help but kneel. Lord, why did they not change their minds at this time! They think: now they will eat mustard, no matter how much more for the future. they didn’t force them to eat the abomination; they wouldn’t - no matter how hard they had to taste the Shelepov. It seemed that the knees in this case represent the middle way, which can pacify both sides. "
                1. Civil
                  Civil 10 December 2020 08: 10
                  -12%
                  Quote: solzh
                  Saltykov-Shchedrin did not say or write that. He does not have this quote. It is said that someone changed a passage from the "History of a City":

                  And in fact there is something to say? No. Vladimir Vladimirovich is doing everything right. Bends you into a ram's horn. I deeply support.
                  1. BecmepH
                    BecmepH 10 December 2020 12: 07
                    +5
                    Quote: Civil
                    Quote: solzh
                    Saltykov-Shchedrin did not say or write that. He does not have this quote. It is said that someone changed a passage from the "History of a City":

                    And in fact there is something to say? No. Vladimir Vladimirovich is doing everything right. Bends you into a ram's horn. I deeply support.

                    BB is oppressing us, and fate bends you ...
                  2. Machito
                    Machito 11 December 2020 02: 29
                    0
                    No money, but we are still holding on. On the other hand, no one has yet canceled the senseless and merciless Russian revolt.
              2. Private89
                Private89 11 December 2020 06: 07
                +1
                "Our" guarantor would have to think that it would not work out as in Krylov's fable. Only where there.

                A wolf ran from a forest to a village,
                Not a visit, but saving the stomach;
                He shook his skin:
                The hunters chased him and the hounds flock.
                He would be glad to dart in the first gate here,
                Yes, it’s only grief
                That all the gates are constipated.
                My Wolf Sees on the Fence
                Kota
                And he prays: “Vasenka, my friend! tell me soon
                Who among the peasants is kinder
                To shelter me from my evil enemies?
                You hear the barking of dogs and the terrible sound of horns!
                All this is for me. " - “Ask Stepan as soon as possible;
                He is a kind man, "- Vaska the Cat says.
                “That's right; Yes, I have ripped off a sheep from him, "
                "Well, try at Demyan's." -
                “I'm afraid that he is angry with me:
                I took the kid away from him. " -
                "Run, Trofim lives over there." -
                “To Trofim? No, I'm afraid to meet him too:
                He's been threatening me since spring for a lamb! "
                “Well, that's bad! "But maybe Klim will cover you!"
                "Oh, Vasya, I killed his calf!"
                “What do I see, godfather! You annoyed everyone in the village, -
                Vaska said to the Wolf. -
                What kind of protection did you promise here?
                No, our peasants are not so much useless
                So that they will save you in their misfortune.
                And you are right - blame yourself:
                What you have sown is the harvest. "

                Krylov Ivan Andreevich
          2. MrFox
            MrFox 10 December 2020 19: 35
            0
            Wow, Mikeov thought it was only "A pure blue snowdrop flower ..."
          3. Machito
            Machito 11 December 2020 13: 57
            +2
            Quote: paul3390
            Mediocre few families
            By wealth and nods
            They own my homeland.
            Standing above all laws
            Wall stand around the king
            Like pugs greedy and angry
            And innocently saying:
            “After all, only we are Russia!”

            Maikov 1855

            The tsar is good, the boyars are bad. It is not a king's business to regulate sugar prices. If the president has to manually solve the simplest issues, maybe this indicates the ineffectiveness of management? Putin has been in power for twenty years, and the government has not been established. How much more time does he need to debug the government? Who is to blame and what to do? And who will be responsible for the jambs? Nobody. Putin does not abandon his friends.
        2. Vadim237
          Vadim237 9 December 2020 19: 12
          -23%
          The first revolution in 1917 began due to a shortage of food in St. Petersburg, rumors about which in the crowds were amplified by provocateurs from the conspirators, and it was from this that the riots started.
          1. solzh
            solzh 10 December 2020 01: 24
            +44
            Reasons for the February Revolution:
            1) The unresolved agrarian-peasant question: the domination of landlord landownership, land shortages and landlessness of the peasants.
            2) Unresolved labor issue: the plight of workers, low wages, lack of labor legislation.
            3) The national question, the russification policy of the authorities.
            4) The fall of the authority of the imperial power, its state of crisis.
            5) The destabilizing influence of war on all aspects of society.
            https://studopedia.ru/1_98852_fevralskaya-revolyutsiya.html
            1. zenion
              zenion 10 December 2020 17: 02
              0
              Oh, with a club, let's hoot! One more time, one more time! Hey hoo, three hooah many times!
        3. t-34marina
          t-34marina 11 December 2020 02: 03
          0
          Aaaaaaaaaa !!!!!!!
    3. paul3390
      paul3390 9 December 2020 17: 51
      +77
      It’s like he’s just making fun of us out of boredom .. Otherwise, it’s impossible to explain all the nonsense he’s carrying ..
      1. Svarog
        Svarog 9 December 2020 18: 18
        +35
        Quote: paul3390
        It’s like he’s just making fun of us out of boredom .. Otherwise, it’s impossible to explain all the nonsense he’s carrying ..

        Detached from reality .. old, but the information leaks through the bunker is not the same .. and with a delay of five years ..
        1. The leader of the Redskins
          The leader of the Redskins 9 December 2020 18: 21
          +21
          That is, realizing that the people will not rebel at the political level, began to fear the hungry?
          Was it too late to catch myself? ...
          1. SSR
            SSR 9 December 2020 19: 47
            +13
            Quote: Leader of the Redskins
            That is, realizing that the people will not rebel at the political level, began to fear the hungry?
            Was it too late to catch myself? ...

            I don't want to throw stones wildly or shout - hooray! Just thoughts out loud.
            Huge money is poured into infrastructure projects, +
            Yesterday I ran into medicine, "an ambulance type" in a science city, for a child. As a result, we arrived ourselves, the doctor who came down did not even examine him, but threw up his hands and said - I can’t help with anything, and recommended to go on our own to another city. This child was injured in the garden. Of course this is a minus.
            This is so, for the train of thought, there are much more minuses and pluses.

            As a result of my thoughts, well, you see, with the staff we still have a large-scale fifth point, there are only a few people capable of solving global problems in the government and in the republics.
            1. Alf
              Alf 9 December 2020 21: 29
              +22
              Quote: SSR
              with frames we still have a large-scale fifth point,

              A simple question - who brought the situation to this point?
              Quote: SSR
              there are only a few people capable of solving global problems in the government and in the republics.

              I will repeat the same question again.
              1. solzh
                solzh 10 December 2020 01: 45
                +29
                Quote: Alf
                A simple question - who brought the situation to this point?

                Lao Tzu: "He who knows does not speak, the speaker does not know" wink bully
              2. SSR
                SSR 10 December 2020 07: 33
                +4
                Quote: Alf
                A simple question - who brought the situation to this point?

                Is this a simple question?
                Where to start taking a starting point, from Khrushchev, Brezhnev or Gorbachev?
                After Gorbachev's perestroika, the Chubais and Gaidars, pupils of that other system, came to power ... and after their "reforms" we had the 90s and then everyone went to study as economists and lawyers, and these people now, the majority, from 35 to 45 years old. Can you go on and on, experts are over 50-55 years old, they were taught in schools and universities in a market economy? No! They taught something completely different.
            2. zenion
              zenion 10 December 2020 17: 04
              -1
              But minus and minus create plus. And if there are three minuses, then in a square, four in a cube, and more minuses to revolution.
        2. aybolyt678
          aybolyt678 10 December 2020 14: 47
          +2
          Quote: Svarog
          Torn from reality ..

          oddly enough, a very accurate analogy ... the USSR was overloaded with production capacities, which were often not in demand, today's Russia is overloaded with retail space, too much. In any case, Russia is compared with the late USSR on the eve of the collapse. The same gerontocracy, the absence of the correct movement, the goal, the task of surviving now and then no one knows.
        3. cmax
          cmax 11 December 2020 00: 10
          0
          Quote: Svarog
          Quote: paul3390
          It’s like he’s just making fun of us out of boredom .. Otherwise, it’s impossible to explain all the nonsense he’s carrying ..

          Detached from reality .. old, but the information leaks through the bunker is not the same .. and with a delay of five years ..

          Exactly. In Belarus, too, one was sure that he was adored. Now he is kind of disappointed, it turns out only the OMON is delighted with his long tsarist life. "Ungrateful" people.
        4. Vladimir247
          Vladimir247 11 December 2020 13: 44
          0
          ... with a delay of five years ...
          -------
          Yes, and the manual is old ... and in a white manor house, a mess, the owner cannot be determined in any way. So the Putin behind the scenes yearns ... wassat
      2. iouris
        iouris 9 December 2020 21: 50
        +3
        Quote: paul3390
        It feels like he's just making fun of us out of boredom ..

        Or maybe he never lived in the USSR?
        1. aybolyt678
          aybolyt678 10 December 2020 08: 17
          +7
          Quote: iouris
          Or maybe he never lived in the USSR?

          He lived in the USSR, but served in Germany, maybe that's why he doesn't like the USSR?
          1. iouris
            iouris 10 December 2020 11: 06
            +3
            They say they are not alone.
      3. 210ox
        210ox 10 December 2020 01: 05
        +7
        Another expression of concern. And the recognition of their own powerlessness to do anything good for their people, and not for those who are over the hill.
      4. solzh
        solzh 10 December 2020 01: 31
        +26
        Quote: paul3390
        he just makes fun of us out of boredom

        No, not kidding.
        Quote: paul3390
        Otherwise, it is impossible to explain all the golimous delirium they are carrying ..

        They simply believed in the illusion that they themselves created.
      5. Sahalinets
        Sahalinets 10 December 2020 04: 34
        +12
        Or is it even easier? The dude has completely lost touch with reality. After all, he even carries a dummy "people" with him around the country ...
      6. t-34marina
        t-34marina 11 December 2020 02: 05
        0
        No, well, a person cannot carry such nonsense, mold such ambiguities, at a time like this ..... Is he it ????
    4. Director
      Director 9 December 2020 18: 00
      +40
      Quote: faterdom
      Who did it? (from the sincere amazement of Ludwig Aristarkhovich)

      Wanted 100 varieties of sausages, get it .. I haven't seen queues for about 30 years and I don't want such sausages .. Even cats don't snort her.
      Capitalism, you will not be fooled, you will not live .. Here we are scratching our heads, who is to blame and what to do.
      1. poquello
        poquello 9 December 2020 18: 16
        +2
        Quote: Direktor
        Quote: faterdom
        Who did it? (from the sincere amazement of Ludwig Aristarkhovich)

        Wanted 100 varieties of sausages, get it .. I haven't seen queues for about 30 years and I don't want such sausages .. Even cats don't snort her.
        Capitalism, you will not be fooled, you will not live .. Here we are scratching our heads, who is to blame and what to do.

        yes, nowadays it is necessary to understand sausages, otherwise you will buy such that "even cats do not eat"
        1. Petro_tut
          Petro_tut 9 December 2020 19: 21
          +16
          , nowadays it is necessary to understand sausages, otherwise you will buy such that "even cats do not eat"

          Marketers have already noticed that the Russians began to massively test sausage on cats, and took action - they began to add valerian to the sausage
          1. poquello
            poquello 9 December 2020 19: 40
            -10%
            Quote: Petro_tut
            , nowadays it is necessary to understand sausages, otherwise you will buy such that "even cats do not eat"

            Marketers have already noticed that the Russians began to massively test sausage on cats, and took action - they began to add valerian to the sausage

            ))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
            no, well, the composition is usually written on the label, and the sellers know something, and the taste itself.
            IMHO, in terms of composition, the growing dependence of the price range - from soybeans and other surrogates, from skins and veins of chicken and other scales, from chicken and other poultry, from skins and animal veins, from pork, from beef. And, as a person who lived in the USSR, I can say for sure - today there is our sausage, which in taste and quality in dreams was not close in the USSR, although this is an isolated case, and good Soviet brands have fallen very much in quality.
            1. sabakina
              sabakina 9 December 2020 20: 44
              +5
              Quote: poquello
              And, as a person who lived in the USSR, I can say for sure - today there is our sausage, which in taste and quality in dreams was not close in the USSR, although this is an isolated case, and good Soviet brands have fallen very much in quality.

              The name is brother! Tell me the name of that sausage!
              1. poquello
                poquello 9 December 2020 21: 10
                0
                Quote: sabakina
                Quote: poquello
                And, as a person who lived in the USSR, I can say for sure - today there is our sausage, which in taste and quality in dreams was not close in the USSR, although this is an isolated case, and good Soviet brands have fallen very much in quality.

                The name is brother! Tell me the name of that sausage!

                a week later, (I haven't bought it yet) tastier than sujuk
                1. Director
                  Director 9 December 2020 21: 14
                  +2
                  Quote: poquello
                  a week later, (I haven't bought it yet) tastier than sujuk

                  Horsemeat ? Well then, it is clear ))))
                  I tried it, but soon this one will be faked too .. laughing
                  And I remember doing homemade sausage, but laborious, but the taste is divine .. Sausage, sausages and so on should be pale in color, but not as bright red, etc. (except for raw smoked)
                  I worked at a meat processing plant in the Soviet Union and I remember everything !!!!!
                  1. poquello
                    poquello 9 December 2020 21: 21
                    -2
                    Quote: Direktor
                    Quote: poquello
                    a week later, (I haven't bought it yet) tastier than sujuk

                    Horsemeat ? Well then, it is clear ))))
                    I tried it, but soon this one will be faked too .. laughing
                    And I remember doing homemade sausage, but laborious, but the taste is divine .. Sausage, sausages and so on should be pale in color, but not as bright red, etc. (except for raw smoked)
                    I worked at a meat processing plant in the Soviet Union and I remember everything !!!!!

                    why horse meat? it is made from both lamb and beef, the main thing is technology, consistency
                  2. your1970
                    your1970 11 December 2020 11: 57
                    -1
                    Quote: Direktor
                    I worked at a meat processing plant in the Soviet Union and I remember everything !!!!!

                    That is, do you remember that if rotten meat came in, then it was impossible to throw it out ?? For PLAN?
                2. sabakina
                  sabakina 9 December 2020 21: 14
                  +3
                  sujuk ... And there were simple dairy sausages ... I could eat three at a time. And if you also boil them ... repeat
                  1. poquello
                    poquello 9 December 2020 22: 16
                    -1
                    Quote: sabakina
                    And there were simple dairy sausages .... I could eat three at a time. And if you also boil them ... repeat

                    we buy klinskie, cut fried - ok
              2. poquello
                poquello 19 December 2020 18: 49
                0
                Quote: sabakina
                Tell me the name of that sausage!

                "Solnechnaya" DSK, I read the label - I didn't think that it was from poultry meat (it costs about 900
            2. Alf
              Alf 9 December 2020 21: 33
              +10
              Quote: poquello
              and good Soviet brands have fallen dramatically in quality.

              Of course. In the damned USSR, sausage was made according to the approved GOSTs, and now according to the TU, which is accepted by each manufacturer himself.
              1. iouris
                iouris 9 December 2020 21: 55
                -1
                Quote: Alf
                and now according to TU

                Mandatory for execution according to No. 184-FZ "On technical regulation" mandatory (state) are only technical regulations that establish the permissible harm. And retail chains require the supplier to reduce the price without fail. So don't be surprised at the abundance of food.
                1. Alf
                  Alf 9 December 2020 21: 59
                  +5
                  Quote: iouris
                  So don't be surprised at the abundance of food.

                  I am not surprised by the abundance of food, I am surprised by the lack of natural products. Although No, I'm not surprised, the reason is clear and understandable - there is nothing to make quality products from.
                  1. Imobile
                    Imobile 10 December 2020 09: 17
                    -1
                    Now there are more than enough natural ones, for every taste, there is even no netrites, which was impossible in the USSR. No money to buy.
                  2. iouris
                    iouris 10 December 2020 11: 10
                    0
                    Quote: Alf
                    there is nothing to make quality products.

                    What "quality" products are made of can be exported for sale for completely different money. You can also supply completely different raw materials here.
                2. poquello
                  poquello 9 December 2020 22: 41
                  -1
                  Quote: iouris
                  retail chains require the supplier to reduce the price without fail. So don't be surprised at the abundance of food.

                  there are stores that are not included in the network, and which work well with the assortment, if you take what is worthwhile, this is necessary there
              2. poquello
                poquello 9 December 2020 22: 20
                -1
                Quote: Alf
                Quote: poquello
                and good Soviet brands have fallen dramatically in quality.

                Of course. In the damned USSR, sausage was made according to the approved GOSTs, and now according to the TU, which is accepted by each manufacturer himself.

                so this is the most offensive, the names have ceased to matter
        2. Alf
          Alf 9 December 2020 21: 31
          +6
          Quote: poquello
          yes, nowadays it is necessary to understand sausages, otherwise you will buy such that "even cats do not eat"

          The most important thing is that the composition of the sausage for 1000-1500 is only slightly better, all the same periodic table. If before the price depended on quality, now only on the seller's greed.
          1. Tochilka
            Tochilka 9 December 2020 22: 51
            +2
            one of my friends assured me that there is cobalt in beer foam!
            Straightly interesting: tungsten, strontium, iridium, osmium, as well as xenon in what kind of sausage for 1000-1500 can be found? And where is that sausage made? wassat
            1. poquello
              poquello 10 December 2020 01: 45
              -1
              Quote: Tochilka
              one of my friends assured me that there is cobalt in beer foam!
              Straightly interesting: tungsten, strontium, iridium, osmium, as well as xenon in what kind of sausage for 1000-1500 can be found? And where is that sausage made? wassat

              )))))))))))))))
              buy up and will you extract?
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            1. savage1976
              savage1976 10 December 2020 14: 24
              +1
              It was always interesting to know what the famous Liaernaya sausage was made of to make the liver look like meat. Well, obviously nothing chemical, the purest pork and beef grown in the ever-green meadows of Siberia.))))
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      2. paul3390
        paul3390 9 December 2020 18: 21
        +24
        Who is to blame and what to do .

        A new case in Russian is proposed: "execution"
        Answers the questions "Who?" and "For what?"
        1. sabakina
          sabakina 9 December 2020 20: 46
          +2
          Quote: paul3390
          Who is to blame and what to do .

          A new case in Russian is proposed: "execution"
          Answers the questions "Who?" and "For what?"

          As I understand it, "why?" is no longer required ....
      3. Vadim237
        Vadim237 9 December 2020 19: 14
        -16%
        “I don’t see any queues for about 30 years and I don’t want such sausages .. Even cats do not snort her.” Yes, because you have been buying and watching what kind of cheap crap all these 30 years - a good quality sausage costs money.
        1. Alf
          Alf 9 December 2020 21: 36
          +7
          Quote: Vadim237
          good quality sausage costs money.

          How many ? Give its composition, not in words, but in a photo of the label.
          1. Imobile
            Imobile 11 December 2020 21: 58
            -2
            Any taste. Anyway, any more expensive than 800 rubles
            1. Alf
              Alf 12 December 2020 19: 56
              +1
              Quote: Imobile
              Any taste.

              Give its composition, not only with words, but with a photo of the label.

              I understand that you have nothing to prove?
    5. Svarog
      Svarog 9 December 2020 18: 17
      +28
      Putin: "Look, no matter how we succeed, as in the Soviet Union - everything is there, but not everyone has enough"

      It turned out already .. only worse .. In the Union there were problems with non-essential goods .. clothes, sausage .. and then if you wanted to get everything .. Now, in general, the trouble is, what is demography a witness .. how is she a witness and in the Union.
      1. Aerodrome
        Aerodrome 9 December 2020 18: 23
        +32
        the hypocritical chatter of the great promiser, who did not hesitate to lie.
      2. Buffet
        Buffet 9 December 2020 19: 05
        -13%
        and then, if you wanted, you could get everything
        that's exactly what to "get", humiliating himself in front of someone or paying double the price. Was that good? No. This is exactly what we are talking about. Or is it that normal thoughts do not leak into your head from reading liberal newspapers? And then only they invented in their sick imagination about Putin's bunker.
        1. Svarog
          Svarog 9 December 2020 19: 50
          +23
          Quote: SHVEDsky_stol
          that's exactly what to "get", humiliating himself in front of someone

          There was no humiliation, it was just more expensive. And they are humiliated, right now, when they work 12-14 hours for a penny and with one day off on Sunday.
          1. Buffet
            Buffet 9 December 2020 20: 28
            -15%
            yes, of course there was no humiliation. And then grandparents and parents did not tell how it was ... 12-14 hours? Who works? Maybe those who did not study at school and ran to discos?
            1. Poganini
              Poganini 10 December 2020 13: 34
              0
              For example, it humiliated me. Therefore, I never "got" anything. And if someone was not humiliated, this speaks more about a person than a million words "for the people" and "against the authorities."
          2. Observer2014
            Observer2014 9 December 2020 20: 54
            +14
            Quote: Svarog
            Quote: SHVEDsky_stol
            that's exactly what to "get", humiliating himself in front of someone

            There was no humiliation, it was just more expensive. And they are humiliated, right now, when they work 12-14 hours for a penny and with one day off on Sunday.

            Not only that. The elementary safety technique was destroyed to zero. We killed harm for harmful production ... I don’t want to print an article instead of a comment. What have these done with their under-optimization. And then after tearing through his eyes he woke up in the bunker. "And who did it?" They sit and turnip off. Where are you patriotism among the people? And then all around the enemy appears and the fifth column, and the evil machinations of the State Department.
            1. poquello
              poquello 9 December 2020 21: 17
              -5
              Quote: Observer2014
              Moreover, elementary safety measures have been destroyed to zero.

              not "not enough", but few people work like that, because there is labor protection,
              tb is guarded by Rostechnadzor, for violations of fines, etc., all these are violations of insolent managers
            2. Buffet
              Buffet 9 December 2020 21: 17
              -17%
              Where did you get this "bunker"? Trump's bunker? or who? For harm, my employees are given milk at work. My friend's research institute also gives milk for harmfulness. I see this in my examples.
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            3. Kamarada
              Kamarada 10 December 2020 12: 03
              +4
              To the point, with such leaders and enemies are not necessary. Himself 20 years old on the throne. They surrounded themselves with thieves and hollows. About. Rali everything that was possible. The people are running. And who remained die out. But the pin is to blame. Wasps.
          3. Poganini
            Poganini 10 December 2020 13: 31
            -2
            There was no humiliation of anyone - that is, you personally did not experience humiliation by "getting" (simply speaking, giving a bribe)? Nda ... as diplomats say, know the comments, otherwise the first day lasted, I don't want to be banned on the second.
          4. Imobile
            Imobile 12 December 2020 14: 39
            -5
            I have a vaccination against THE USSR. T 84 year they brought the powder, they gave 1 pack of powder to their hands and 2 bars of soap. So the whole city lined up, even children were brought in, because the next time they can bring the powder only after a year, or even two, educated people. The store had a narrow door, so they decided to give it out from the back, there was a gate. There were 4 turns, a crush began, the gate was immediately demolished. And in this line a mother and child were run over. The hospital was nearby and the ambulance arrived immediately. Neither neither the mother nor the child could be pulled out until the powder ran out. Even the intestines of the child's mouth came out! And the powder is of the worst quality imaginable.
        2. poquello
          poquello 9 December 2020 19: 52
          -7
          Quote: SHVEDsky_stol
          or by paying double the price.

          triple for raw, and higher for smoked
        3. sabakina
          sabakina 9 December 2020 20: 56
          +5
          Quote: SHVEDsky_stol
          and then, if you wanted, you could get everything
          that's exactly what to "get", humiliating himself in front of someone or paying double the price.

          Tell me, are you so ugly or did you drop your head in the hospital?
          1. Buffet
            Buffet 9 December 2020 21: 19
            -8
            Vyacheslav. Are you yourself adequate and consistent? And then you carry all sorts of nonsense and attach to something that the video is not in the subject .. Is it on you so affected the coronavirus?
            1. sabakina
              sabakina 9 December 2020 21: 20
              +1
              Quote: SHVEDsky_stol
              Vyacheslav. Are you yourself adequate and consistent? And then you carry all sorts of nonsense and attach to something that the video is not in the subject .. Is it on you so affected the coronavirus?

              Not ah! Crayfish!
          2. Poganini
            Poganini 10 December 2020 13: 41
            -2
            His then maybe dropped his head, but you are clearly head. "A commodity expert, a shoe store as a simple engineer" - is Roman something invented? Or "and from above 20. I gave 25".
      3. your1970
        your1970 11 December 2020 12: 03
        0
        Quote: Svarog
        get it
        - there is a pull and loot, got it, no, didn't get it.

        Quote: Svarog
        in general, the trouble is that demography is a witness ... as it is a witness in the Union.
        - to give birth to 2 children began in the 70s. The USSR left at the expense of Central Asia - there they still gave birth to a lot. Naturally, when Central Asia disappeared, the population began to decline
    6. Vadim237
      Vadim237 9 December 2020 19: 08
      -10%
      Speculation, greed - all this makes prices rise.
      1. Alf
        Alf 9 December 2020 21: 38
        +12
        Quote: Vadim237
        Speculation, greed - all this makes prices rise.

        And who allowed the possibility of speculation?
        1. your1970
          your1970 11 December 2020 12: 05
          -1
          Quote: Alf
          Quote: Vadim237
          Speculation, greed - all this makes prices rise.

          А who allowed the possibility of speculation?

          You will laugh (maybe !!!!!) - but this is the general secretary of the CPSU Central Committee M.S.Gorbachev .... The law on cooperatives, if that ...
    7. Senka naughty
      Senka naughty 9 December 2020 19: 24
      -12%
      The question is of course a vital one, only on the VO website it is completely inappropriate!
    8. saygon66
      saygon66 9 December 2020 20: 46
      +1
      - "You haven't seen that in the rocket yet ..." (C) laughing
      1. sabakina
        sabakina 9 December 2020 21: 32
        +2
        Quote: saygon66
        - "You haven't seen that in the rocket yet ..." (C) laughing

        In flight or at the start?
        1. solzh
          solzh 10 December 2020 01: 49
          +25
          Quote: sabakina
          Quote: saygon66
          - "You haven't seen that in the rocket yet ..." (C) laughing

          In flight or at the start?

          When boarding laughing
        2. saygon66
          saygon66 10 December 2020 11: 49
          +2
          -This is from the dialogue of the concierge Ludwig Aristarkhovich with the residents of the house ... about the disgrace in the elevator ... smile
    9. solzh
      solzh 10 December 2020 01: 05
      +25
      What a shame for the authorities, the increase in food prices cannot be explained by a pandemic, they will have to invent another reason ... But they now have a concern ...
    10. Wolf
      Wolf 10 December 2020 06: 34
      +2
      SYSTEM of economic in Russia. !!!
      AND THE ECONOMIC SYSTEM in Russia, WHO made here the answer and the answers and responsibility! , so by the SYSTEM OF ECONOMIC RUSSIAN EMPIRE they set up the Great Martyr Nicholas at the end. In fact, the Romanovs' system had to be REFORMED FOR THE 19th CENTURY !!! ..........
      ........... etc ..........
      1. Wolf
        Wolf 10 December 2020 06: 37
        +2
        Or the middle and late 19th century, more precisely.
    11. zenion
      zenion 10 December 2020 16: 53
      +1
      It is good that there is such a president who can observe everything from the outside. If he needs a deputy on the other side, left, right, behind and in front, I know people who agree to this.
  2. evgen1221
    evgen1221 9 December 2020 17: 35
    +27
    How do you pay us and for whom do you think gentlemen government from another planet, so we (the people) answer you, love and work. With you we will reach the coupons, but name the reasons why not?
    1. Thrifty
      Thrifty 9 December 2020 17: 49
      +13
      Evgeniy1221 - so the coupons will now be distributed among "their own" and the rest are fig (not fruit) under their breath! !!
      1. zenion
        zenion 10 December 2020 16: 55
        0
        Do you mean that under the nose this is a plate on which they carry this fig? So the tray is written together and on such a device a lot of figs are carried.
    2. Svarog
      Svarog 9 December 2020 18: 20
      +19
      Quote: evgen1221
      With you we will reach the coupons, but name the reasons why not?

      With them only to the churchyard .. and the reasons they will not name .. and they are purple in general, they are afraid of one thing - a riot.
    3. poquello
      poquello 9 December 2020 18: 21
      -14%
      Quote: evgen1221
      How do you pay us and for whom do you think gentlemen government from another planet, so we (the people) answer you, love and work.

      you get paid, I get paid fine
      1. evgen1221
        evgen1221 9 December 2020 18: 57
        +9
        I'm very happy for you.
        1. poquello
          poquello 9 December 2020 19: 10
          -8
          Quote: evgen1221
          I'm very happy for you.

          Well, it's too early to rejoice, because while I was interrupting with other work, I crawled into a minus, but the conclusion is that work can be different
          1. evgen1221
            evgen1221 10 December 2020 01: 20
            +7
            Yes, I am always amazed and laugh at such comments, go to work, etc. Where as an oligarch tiler and a gynecologist in combination. You are right, we work, only the work and payment as well as the contribution to the country are different. One thing at a construction site is crushed with the threat of losing an apartment for a crack in the hair and for 30 tons of income, and another is sitting on YouTube playing games 24/7 and getting up to 1 million a month and absolutely without any deductions and taxes to the country, and these kyu will be me learn what to do and how to work?
            1. poquello
              poquello 10 December 2020 01: 38
              -2
              Quote: evgen1221
              play games on YouTube 24/7

              so they get it from advertising, so they watch them, they like this .. they like it, this is creativity like a business, many try and fail almost everyone, so happy for those who succeed, I'm still talking about employers in the real sector - there is where they pay ok, there is just where not to run away
    4. sabakina
      sabakina 9 December 2020 21: 08
      +3
      Quote: evgen1221
      How do you pay us and for whom do you think gentlemen government from another planet, so we (the people) answer you, love and work. With you we will reach the coupons, but name the reasons why not?

      https://ok.ru/video/222107994783
      "Be silent, impudent, - the Head said to them, -
      Or by force I will silence you! ..
      How dare you rebel
      When is it given to us by nature to command? " -
      “All this is good, even if you would command,
      At least she wouldn't have thrown us everywhere,
      But your whims cannot be fulfilled by us;
      Yes, between us, after all, to confess
      If you have the right to rule
      So we have the right to stumble
      And we can sometimes stumble - how to be -
      Break your Majesty against a stone.

      Everyone knows the meaning of this fable ...
      But it should - ts! - to be silent: - who is all chatting.

      D. Davydov. Poet and partisan.
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  3. RUSS
    RUSS 9 December 2020 17: 37
    +31
    Market prices? So the "market" belongs to his friends, Mirotorg, etc. Let him tell his friends that the price tag would be lowered, the same Pyaterechka is also a network close to the imperial table
    1. Svarog
      Svarog 9 December 2020 18: 21
      +16
      Quote: RUSS
      Market prices? So the "market" belongs to his friends, Mirotorg, etc. Let him tell his friends that the price tag would be lowered, the same Pyaterechka is also a network close to the imperial table

      So he tells them .. there was a meme about gas before .. soon about meat will be the same ..
    2. solzh
      solzh 10 December 2020 01: 53
      +24
      Quote: RUSS
      Market prices?

      No, we have a bazaar ...
      And friends at the bazaar can do anything, even the price tags DO NOT reduce.
  4. Avior
    Avior 9 December 2020 17: 37
    +28
    Yes, the President is not the first to notice the problem smile
    1. Svarog
      Svarog 9 December 2020 18: 23
      +29
      Quote: Avior
      Yes, the President is not the first to notice the problem

      It’s you to the point .. the president we have problems is the last one notices .. why such a president .. Problems need to be solved and foreseen, and not ascertained .. We can make a statement here at VO too ..
      1. Van 16
        Van 16 9 December 2020 19: 08
        +21
        "Problems need to be solved"
        Our president usually solves problems in one way: maybe it will resolve itself.
    2. sabakina
      sabakina 9 December 2020 21: 22
      0
      Quote: Avior
      Yes, the President is not the first to notice the problem smile

  5. The Siberian barber
    The Siberian barber 9 December 2020 17: 38
    +32
    Now the Russian economy is really going through a difficult period,

    I don’t remember something, when our economy had periods of "easier")))
    A little "dawned" in the XNUMXs, for a "moment", against the background of high prices for hydrocarbons (which is not the merit of the drivers' hands) and
    The impression that it was specially created so that it, permanently, was in crisis)) At least for the absolute majority of the population
    1. Svarog
      Svarog 9 December 2020 18: 24
      +26
      Quote: The Siberian Barber
      The impression that it was specially created so that it, permanently, was in crisis)) At least for the absolute majority of the population

      Naturally on purpose .. Wouldn't they kill factories, factories ... if they wanted to build an economy .. The money would not be kept in overseas banks .. unless they would allow it to flow into offshore ...
      1. Vitaly Pogrebnyak
        Vitaly Pogrebnyak 9 December 2020 19: 31
        +12
        But in Ukraine it is worse!
        1. Svarog
          Svarog 9 December 2020 19: 52
          +20
          Quote: Vitaly Pogrebnyak
          But in Ukraine it is worse!

          That's for sure .. but depending on which side you look at .. what if they had oil and gas?
          1. Object.F7
            Object.F7 9 December 2020 22: 51
            -1
            Anyway, they would buy now abroad. Like American coal, when it’s full of its own ... But that’s what you need to feed your miners, why, when it’s better to buy at exorbitant prices and ensure stability for American miners and sea carriers. The ambassador will not advise bad (by order). And so in everything. Battleships, aircraft carriers and missile cruisers were built in Nikolaev, and now it is necessary to order boats from the British with Scandinavian weapons. And for the Nikolaev shipbuilders visa-free - for the Poles to pick apples
        2. solzh
          solzh 10 December 2020 02: 05
          +23
          Quote: Vitaly Pogrebnyak
          But in Ukraine it is worse!

          And sho? It's summer in New Zealand. Local residents are proud of the good environment and economic stability.
  6. Bolt cutter
    Bolt cutter 9 December 2020 17: 39
    -24%
    introduction of an unconditional basic income for every citizen of the country
    In 2-3 generations, he will make a horde of fat, proud parasites out of the nation. Nobody wants to serve or work or study. They will only yell, which is not enough.
    1. Bolt cutter
      Bolt cutter 9 December 2020 17: 47
      -7
      In England, France, whole generations are sitting on state opportunities, and they do not want to go to the army, or to universities, much less to work. They only want the benefits to be increased, so that for a car and travel abroad for rest (from which wassat ) was enough.
      1. 2 Level Advisor
        2 Level Advisor 9 December 2020 18: 11
        +7
        if you are talking about blacks with Arabs, so we do not have them .. and ordinary Frenchmen with Englishmen, they work quite well for themselves .. by the way, direct benefits for so-of course only the most needy .. the rest, for example, as a subsidy or at the expense, without the right to just eat up- target, for a mortgage, training, etc.
        1. Bolt cutter
          Bolt cutter 9 December 2020 18: 17
          -8
          ordinary French with English
          Quite a few of them also live in public housing, receive benefits and lay down for all this study / work. And their numbers are increasing - why bother wassat Smoked, drunk, and sleep in front of the telly. Negro Arabs are almost without exception.
        2. Svarog
          Svarog 9 December 2020 20: 48
          +9
          Quote: 2 level advisor
          if you are talking about blacks with Arabs, so we do not have them .. and ordinary Frenchmen with Englishmen, they work quite well for themselves .. by the way, direct benefits for so-of course only the most needy .. the rest, for example, as a subsidy or at the expense, without the right to just eat up- target, for a mortgage, training, etc.

          We don't have blacks .. we don't have arbs .. we don't have a damn thing .. there are no sanctions from the Bauman Moscow State Technical University now and there are no microsoftware .. you understand the sanctions .. but there is nothing of our own ..
      2. sustav75
        sustav75 9 December 2020 18: 17
        +22
        They're talking about Russian hard workers! Which in factories plow for a pittance !!! And not about the Arabs who came in large numbers in France and Germany! And they live on benefits! Our people are different, and they want to work, but just pay with dignity, so that there is not only enough to eat! And little, little, and dressed and showy and pamper children ...
        1. Bolt cutter
          Bolt cutter 9 December 2020 18: 22
          -19%
          We have different people
          The same European people. Not everyone wants to work in the real world, it's difficult. But Emelya will cosplay, if possible.
          not about the Arabs who came in large numbers in France and Germany
          The number of white Europeans doing the same is increasing.
          1. sustav75
            sustav75 9 December 2020 18: 41
            +21
            You about Thomas, and you about Erema! In Europe they have been pampered for a century! And our people don't even know what a freebie is! Not accustomed! On labor income! And nothing else! The "native" government has taught it. You are apparently from another planet, from the same where Vova is from! All to you! Undesirable :)))
        2. poquello
          poquello 9 December 2020 20: 01
          -9
          Quote: sustav75
          e about the Arabs who came in large numbers in France and Germany! And they live on benefits! Our people are different, and they want to work, but just pay with dignity, so that there is not only enough to eat!

          Bloomberg writes - the number of Americans fighting hunger ("fighting hunger") will jump by 45% this year and will exceed 50 million people. After covidla, the numbers of hungry people doubled and reached a record level for the entire observation period (since 1995).
          https://smart-lab.ru/blog/644846.php
      3. poquello
        poquello 9 December 2020 18: 25
        -6
        Quote: Bolt Cutter
        In England, France, whole generations are sitting on state opportunities, and they do not want to go to the army, or to universities, much less to work. They only want the benefits to be increased, so that for a car and travel abroad for rest (from which wassat ) was enough.

        I’m looking at one Jew with a benefit from Germany returned home - missed work)
        1. Bolt cutter
          Bolt cutter 9 December 2020 18: 28
          +1
          I watch one Jew with benefits from Germany returned home
          Azohen wei! Show me this shimazl wassat
          1. poquello
            poquello 9 December 2020 18: 34
            0
            Quote: Bolt Cutter
            I watch one Jew with benefits from Germany returned home
            Azohen wei! Show me this shimazl wassat

            no, I will not show, we do not communicate, if only by chance and from a distance, but there are still friends for half a year like there, so all the chances for the continuation of the series
    2. Lech from Android.
      Lech from Android. 9 December 2020 17: 47
      +29
      In 2-3 generations, he will make a horde of fat, proud parasites out of the nation.

      Well, we already have a layer of fat, proud rich people who only shout that people eat too much and work little, and even demand freedom.
      1. Bolt cutter
        Bolt cutter 9 December 2020 17: 52
        -15%
        there is already a layer of fat, proud rich people
        They are everywhere capitalism laughing ... The money for this will give rise to a huge stratum of fat, proud rogues. Even if you give a lot, it will still not be enough for them.
        1. Vadim237
          Vadim237 9 December 2020 19: 26
          -19%
          Well, now the state will make the basic income and I am more than sure 70% of those who received this money will send it to smartphones, tablets and other things are clearly not the first or even second necessity.
          1. Olkhovsky
            Olkhovsky 9 December 2020 19: 56
            +8
            And that's none of your business. The money will still go to the economy.
            1. Bolt cutter
              Bolt cutter 9 December 2020 20: 14
              -5
              The money will still go to the economy.
              In this case, Chinese.
      2. paul3390
        paul3390 9 December 2020 18: 26
        +33
        When Kafka, Orwell, Pelevin, Sorokin, Voinovich came true in Russia, it was funny, but when Dunno on the Moon and Cipollino came true it became really scary.
        1. solzh
          solzh 10 December 2020 02: 13
          +26
          Quote: paul3390
          when Dunno on the Moon and Cipollino came true it became really scary.

          Ahead of 451 degrees Fahrenheit R. Bradbury ... Or there will be more ...
          1. andrew42
            andrew42 10 December 2020 20: 53
            +4
            Mishustin will burn cash?
    3. Rubi0
      Rubi0 9 December 2020 18: 44
      -29%
      This is what the witnesses of the USSR have minded you, they need everything to decide for them, decide where to work according to distribution, decide when to get a car to buy an apartment, solve the problem of pensions, but they themselves do not want to think at all. Why, for example, a pension if you can earn millions up to 30. By learning from the aligarhs, the same Friedman in 86 when he was 26 years old organized a Soviet Swiss enterprise, while many of those present here were picking their noses
      1. Vadim237
        Vadim237 9 December 2020 19: 33
        -12%
        For this, brains are needed and qualities that not everyone possesses - in the 80s there were very few real entrepreneurs, almost no one knew what it was with what they eat it and what to do.
      2. poquello
        poquello 9 December 2020 20: 08
        +12
        Quote: Rubi0
        the same Friedman

        )
        I like these "historians"
        Fridman's acquaintance with many people, thanks to whose support he subsequently developed his business: Peter Aven (Minister of Foreign Economic Relations under the Gaidar Government), Vladislav Surkov (Deputy Head of the Presidential Administration), Alexander Kasyanenko (Perekrestok Trading House).

        and then they write "started from scratch"
        ))))))))))))))))))))
      3. DAQ
        DAQ 10 December 2020 00: 04
        +15
        Learn from the Aligarhs the same Friedman in 86, when he was 26 years old, organized a Soviet Swiss enterprise, while many of those present here were picking their noses

        Yes, yes, in the know. Prokhorov cooked jeans, Khodorkovsky brandy bodied, Usmanov glued packages. And so they became billionaires. laughing

        Watch a Jewish film about oligarchs. Birch (Berezovsky) is the only oligarch who cuts the truth of the uterus, the rest are trying to see how enterprising they are. He bluntly said that he took what "does not belong to anyone." Friedman also appears in this film.
        1. andrew42
          andrew42 10 December 2020 20: 52
          0
          The horror is that at the end of the 20th century we were treated to sour American noodles in the style of Horatio Alger. There was such a "great writer" in the United States at the end of the 19th century. All his works were along one bend and were generally called "rags tou richez" (from rags to riches): in each of them a poor boy started a business with a dollar from the garbage, but through hard work and savings, he became millionaires. This literary movement, even in the United States, enjoys a fair amount of contempt. Likewise, our effective "snatches" will soon begin to carve in stone, as they built Norilsk Nickel from scratch and pulled the wires of RAO UES.
      4. solzh
        solzh 10 December 2020 02: 15
        +37
        Quote: Rubi0
        Friedman in 86 when he was 26 years old organized a Soviet Swiss enterprise

        Well, how, at the age of 26, you organized the Russian-Swiss JSC? Were you able to repeat Friedman's "feat"?
        1. Rubi0
          Rubi0 10 December 2020 10: 43
          -2
          Not millions, but a contract with the hated British saves your nerves from fluctuations in the national currency. And I am more than happy with this than equalization in 120r under the USSR
    4. aleksejkabanets
      aleksejkabanets 9 December 2020 20: 37
      +11
      Quote: Bolt Cutter
      In 2-3 generations, he will make a horde of fat, proud parasites out of the nation. Nobody wants to serve or work or study. They will only yell, which is not enough.

      Despite the number of minuses you have, for this comment, you are absolutely right. However, what do we have today? There is no work, and if there is, then the salary is enough only for scourges and communal apartments. Why is there such talk? Simply because making a penny basic income is much easier and cheaper than creating enough productive jobs. But I think it would be right to make payments for children in the amount of at least a living wage per child. The current payments, in the amount of 189 rubles per child, do not motivate to raise the demography. By law, if the family has three or more children, the mother has the right not to work. In fact, in a large family, one of the parents is physically unable to work, since it is necessary to take care of the children. And this further reduces the income of families with many children.
    5. Poganini
      Poganini 10 December 2020 13: 50
      -2
      Alex, you still have to solve this problem. It's just that no one knows how yet. Worldwide. A steady rise in labor productivity (automation) will still exacerbate the problem. In a dozen or two years, there will be no need for taxi drivers and long-range drivers, and these are millions of people. Rosselmash is already testing robotic combines, etc. Therefore, there is probably no escaping imputed income. But while troubles with him, yes.
      1. Bolt cutter
        Bolt cutter 10 December 2020 13: 52
        -1
        Despite the robotics in Korea (South) and Japan there is a shortage of workers, and there is also a shortage in the army in Japan.
        1. Poganini
          Poganini 10 December 2020 13: 58
          -2
          In Japan, there is a problem with demographics, but in Korea, to be honest, they do not know why they are suddenly? Well, somehow our problems worry me more, and I really don't have enough imagination to figure out where millions of truckers and taxi drivers are going to go. And then the Bulgakhters.
          1. Bolt cutter
            Bolt cutter 10 December 2020 14: 01
            -2
            Japan is in trouble with demographics
            In Russia, too, it seems. They will work instead of jamshuts, and yes, no taxi drivers in Japan have disappeared anywhere. Anyway, nowhere.
            1. Poganini
              Poganini 10 December 2020 17: 50
              -4
              Well, for now, there are no autopilots anywhere, only testing. The speech will take place in 10-15 years. ) In Russia, the demography is still stable, at least for 20 Putin years. Now the failure is small, long known to everyone except the local patriotic sentries, associated with the fact that a small generation of the 90s gives birth. As usual, Putin is to blame for this. ) Well, if things get really bad, you will have to distribute passports more actively in Donbass, and activate any resettlement programs.
  7. mat-vey
    mat-vey 9 December 2020 17: 40
    +27
    “Look, no matter how we succeed, as in the Soviet Union - everything is there, but not everyone has enough” - this has already happened.
    1. New Year day
      New Year day 9 December 2020 18: 01
      +21
      if the ending of the USSR will be with Russia, then let him not be surprised
      Quote: mat-vey
      ... it already happened.
      1. mat-vey
        mat-vey 9 December 2020 18: 07
        +16
        Quote: Silvestr
        if the ending of the USSR will be with Russia, then let him not be surprised

        The ending shines more like with RI ... But somehow in a gloomy and pessimistic version ..
        1. pyagomail.ru
          pyagomail.ru 9 December 2020 18: 33
          -32%
          Let's imagine: there was a revolution, someone was killed, someone was imprisoned, someone fled abroad. Power passed to the Communist Party or the Liberal Democratic Party, and happiness came? Gasoline for 40 kopecks and sausage for 2.20? Two options: either Tipo Zelensky will come and the country will go to the 3rd world, or Tipo Stalin will come and bend everyone, including you into the ram's horn: 10 minutes late for work - an article, collected 10 spikelets on the field - an article. But in general, this stream of comments reminds me: "The cat abandoned the kittens - it's Putin's fault ...". Have you tried to work?
          1. mat-vey
            mat-vey 9 December 2020 18: 36
            +25
            Quote: pyagomail.ru
            Have you tried to work?

            And you?
            1. pyagomail.ru
              pyagomail.ru 9 December 2020 18: 52
              -25%
              I am 66 years old, I work, but not because the pension is not enough, but because they do not let me go - a valuable specialist (without irony - I know my worth).
              1. mat-vey
                mat-vey 9 December 2020 18: 56
                +26
                And proceeding from what incredible mental strain did the valuable specialist come to the conclusion that I do not work?
                "TipoStalin will come and bend everyone, including you in the horn of a ram" - you see, you have suffered greatly from Stalin.
                1. pyagomail.ru
                  pyagomail.ru 9 December 2020 19: 17
                  -18%
                  Negative comments are written by three types of people: 1. those who are for money, 2. Not very smart - they have not figured out the question, but I want to write, 3. Smart, writing interesting, literate (albeit negative) comments - it is interesting to read them. And most of the local ones - I once read them in Ukrainian "Censor.Net." - funny.
                  1. mat-vey
                    mat-vey 9 December 2020 19: 19
                    +20
                    Quote: pyagomail.ru
                    Let's imagine: there was a revolution, someone was killed, someone was imprisoned, someone fled abroad. Power passed to the Communist Party or the Liberal Democratic Party, and happiness came? Gasoline for 40 kopecks and sausage for 2.20? Two options: either Tipo Zelensky will come and the country will go to the 3rd world, or Tipo Stalin will come and bend everyone, including you into the ram's horn: 10 minutes late for work - an article, collected 10 spikelets on the field - an article. But in general, this stream of comments reminds me: "The cat abandoned the kittens - it's Putin's fault ...". Have you tried to work?

                    I don’t even know where to attribute this comment ... It’s not very interesting and smart ...
                    1. andrew42
                      andrew42 10 December 2020 20: 32
                      +2
                      The answer to this comment "about Putin and kittens" is simple and short: We tried to work. We are still working. For a penny. All for the sake of the "yacht fleet" and "immovable fortresses", placed with the iron hand of our barin fathers in hostile foreign countries.
                  2. Poganini
                    Poganini 10 December 2020 14: 04
                    -3
                    Lucky for you Pavel.) I have not yet met those related to item 3. And on the first two points of the debauchery, the percentage would be very interesting.
                    1. pyagomail.ru
                      pyagomail.ru 10 December 2020 21: 00
                      -3
                      Well, why, there are. For example, in discussions about the need for aircraft carriers or other equipment, it is interesting to see different but competent opinions. And for the first two, it depends on the topic. If about the problems in the country (there are, of course, many of them), then there are 90 percent paid. I live in a poor area, but, for example, if I go to work at 6:30, then I get there in 15 minutes, if half an hour later, then I push in traffic jams for 40 minutes, while bad thoughts come: I should make gasoline more expensive, or prices for increase cars - there are too many of them - people live richly. There are funny comments on the topic of the annexation of Ukraine, Belarus, Armenia - the people do not think about whether they want to join Russia, that by annexing Ukraine, for example, we will have to pay its external debts, and this is tens of billions of dollars - the West is theirs to us will not write off - this is the 2nd group. Something like this.
                      1. Poganini
                        Poganini 10 December 2020 21: 10
                        -5
                        Yes, the sufferers for the poorly living people, as it usually turns out, they themselves live quite well, but they have heard of those who have seen the aunt whose sister's husband knows for sure a woman whose godfather knows a man who plows for 15 tr.)
                      2. pyagomail.ru
                        pyagomail.ru 11 December 2020 09: 25
                        -1
                        I do not agree with you: they have not heard anything - they are working off the money. Usually they are excited before the elections: Russia is falling apart, people are starving, pensioners are dying, it is necessary to blame. And here just an ambiguous article came out - so they catch the hype.
                      3. Poganini
                        Poganini 11 December 2020 10: 34
                        -1
                        But I will not argue with you, I agree. ) And, in general, is there any point in understanding the types of shit? Enemies and traitors of the country, but for a little money or for natural stupidity - God forbid, then deal with them. )
                      4. pyagomail.ru
                        pyagomail.ru 11 December 2020 13: 02
                        0
                        Most of the comments of this kind come from beyond the hillock, including from "non-brothers" - they have spoiled their country, now they are doing bad things to us.
                      5. mat-vey
                        mat-vey 12 December 2020 06: 25
                        0
                        Quote: pyagomail.ru
                        Most of the comments of this kind come from beyond the hillock, including from "non-brothers" - they have spoiled their country, now they are doing bad things to us.

                        "2. Not very smart - they did not understand the question, but I want to write,"
      2. Varyag71
        Varyag71 10 December 2020 10: 21
        +1
        You do not praise yourself, no one praises.
    2. evgen1221
      evgen1221 9 December 2020 19: 09
      +10
      to live in Russia, you have to work apparently for the currency and preferably away from the homeland. You apparently are working for the good of the country, what?
      1. mat-vey
        mat-vey 9 December 2020 19: 11
        +5
        Quote: evgen1221
        to live in Russia, you have to work apparently for the currency and preferably away from the homeland. You apparently are working for the good of the country, what?

        Are you talking to me?
        1. evgen1221
          evgen1221 10 December 2020 01: 32
          +2
          Mat-vey No, not for you. the site has a poorly made system for addressing responses to user comments - it is always unclear who is answering whom (the arrows point to the very first comment) and in the mobile version (with which I am on the site, in this regard, the devil will break my leg) - if they took it on their account- sorry generously.
          1. mat-vey
            mat-vey 10 December 2020 15: 11
            +1
            Quote: evgen1221
            Mat-vey No, not for you. the site has a poorly made system for addressing responses to user comments - it is always unclear who is answering whom (the arrows point to the very first comment) and in the mobile version (with which I am on the site, in this regard, the devil will break my leg) - if they took it on their account- sorry generously.

            Accepted, I basically understood, but it was better to dispel doubts.
  8. syndicalist
    syndicalist 9 December 2020 18: 58
    +16
    What the hell is the third world? More than 80% of African countries are ahead of Russia in terms of income. They are in the 3rd world, and we can only dream about it now.
    1. Bolt cutter
      Bolt cutter 9 December 2020 20: 18
      -7
      More than 80% of African countries are ahead of Russia in terms of income
      And here you are greatly exaggerating.
      1. syndicalist
        syndicalist 9 December 2020 22: 01
        +6
        Well, I confused Africa with Latin America. It happens. However, in Africa, the minimum wage in some countries will be higher than ours.
        1. Bolt cutter
          Bolt cutter 9 December 2020 22: 17
          -6
          in Africa, the minimum wage in some countries will be higher than ours.
          In Denmark, Italy, Austria, Finland, Norway, Sweden, Switzerland, Iceland there is no such concept as a minimum wage at all. Which is also worse than Africa, chtol wassat
  9. bondrostov
    bondrostov 9 December 2020 19: 00
    +6
    In the tritium world say heh heh .. mae soon we will envy Negeria! ..
  10. aleksejkabanets
    aleksejkabanets 9 December 2020 20: 19
    +12
    Quote: pyagomail.ru
    Two options: either type Zelensky will come, and the country will go to the 3rd world, or it will come ...

    Don't confuse a revolution and a coup d'etat.
  11. Note
    Note 10 December 2020 13: 12
    +1
    Why do you have only two options? And the option with a normal person, a strong, honest, fair leader, in which all the best from the socialist, capitalist system will be taken. And finally, the people will be recognized as the most important property of the state?
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  • parusnik
    parusnik 9 December 2020 18: 35
    +11
    Like they wanted the best, but it turned out better for a small stratum of the population, but for the rest, as always ... smile
    1. mat-vey
      mat-vey 9 December 2020 18: 42
      +7
      Quote: parusnik
      Like they wanted the best, but it turned out better for a small stratum of the population, but for the rest, as always ... smile

      Somehow, "Well, thirty million will die out. They did not fit into the market" does not suggest what they wanted.
  • rocket757
    rocket757 9 December 2020 17: 40
    +9
    if anyone is asked why people do not have enough money for food and why food is so expensive in relation to the salaries and pensions of Russians, then first of all it is to him, the head of the Russian state.

    who will ask him ??? the question is specific and precisely addressed, and therefore, to ask its "bad" is dumb.
    1. Thrifty
      Thrifty 9 December 2020 17: 47
      +4
      Growth 757 - to ask a question is as easy as shelling pears, write it on the website gremlin or kremlin lie, because you will never wait for an answer!
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 9 December 2020 19: 06
        +2
        Quote: Thrifty
        you will never wait for an answer

        Honestly, it's not interesting what they ask, how they ask ... it's just a plot / show for the layman.
        It is clear that they give a couple, three hot ones because they PUBLICLY PERMIT! but, this is nothing fundamentally, in our life, the life of the country, DO NOT CHANGE!
        I am already old enough to watch and believe in such shows.
    2. evgen1221
      evgen1221 9 December 2020 17: 51
      +3
      Sooner or later, such a formulation of the question comes to a decision - it does not reach through the head - we will snitch on the priest.))
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 9 December 2020 19: 08
        +2
        Quote: evgen1221
        Sooner or later

        The solution, which is q, does not interest me anymore .... I suppose that many others do too.
        1. evgen1221
          evgen1221 10 December 2020 01: 42
          +2
          757 Yes, it is clear that many already have something to lose. But the question is to make the fattening oligarchs reckon with us and shake us if they don't want to. And to bring a kiosk at a bus stop into a stable income of 100t rubles - believe me, it's difficult, with the current systems of extortions, bans and double standards, when one can do everything and others a priori cattle, slaves and cattle. the result has come to its logical end.
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 10 December 2020 09: 25
            0
            The economic structures of the countries are DIFFERENT.
            In our small business, this is an insignificant part, as a financial component, BUT, people are working, trying to provide for themselves .... it is enough to create reasonable rules for interaction with the state and not violate them, on either side.
            something like this.
    3. paul3390
      paul3390 9 December 2020 17: 55
      +12
      who will ask him ???

      It would be nice to have a people's revolutionary tribunal ... Eh ...
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 9 December 2020 19: 11
        +4
        Quote: paul3390
        It would be nice to have a people's revolutionary tribunal.

        I'm not sure it would be better this way.
        But simply according to the law, according to the rules and regulations in our native state ...
        that everyone would be responsible for all their affairs, actions, decisions and NO EXCEPTIONS!
        1. paul3390
          paul3390 9 December 2020 19: 44
          +28
          Will not work..

          1. rocket757
            rocket757 9 December 2020 20: 20
            +4
            We are saved by the fact that we can also laugh at this!
            Although, for a long time no laughing matter, in general.
            we are so strange.
        2. Reptiloid
          Reptiloid 9 December 2020 23: 48
          +2
          Quote: rocket757
          ..... But simply according to the law, according to the rules and regulations in our native state ...
          that everyone would be responsible for all their affairs, actions, decisions and NO EXCEPTIONS!
          hi Good day, Victor! What you wrote is very correct. good but this is some kind of fantasy, if you remember what happened in the last 30 years recourse , and even then, we know a small part belay
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 10 December 2020 09: 29
            +1
            Good morning, Dmitriy soldier
            We have created this state this way, that most of what an ordinary person considers NORMAL, in the current situation seems to be a pipe fantasy.
            Well, there is no one to complain to, because YOURSELF, YOURSELF, YOURSELF!
            1. Reptiloid
              Reptiloid 10 December 2020 09: 47
              +1
              Unfortunately, Victor, a significant part of our compatriots naively took on faith, both our promises at the top and the lures of the West. Reading about that time, we can conclude that they diligently tried to fit into the capitalist system, naively believing that they would succeed ...
              1. rocket757
                rocket757 10 December 2020 10: 45
                +2
                Unfortunately, we were not only taught, quite high quality, extensively, but also stuffed with propaganda at the very best!
                So it turns out that a person who could find any point on the world map and roughly describe what kind of climate, resources, etc. there was, had little understanding of how they live there, in fact ...
                The one-sidedness of knowledge does not lead to good!
                People read About Henry, the same "The Trust That Burst" !!! but who was able to draw what conclusions, showed the subsequent "experiment" with MMM and other "pyramids"!
                This is some kind of "enlightened" naive!
                1. Reptiloid
                  Reptiloid 10 December 2020 11: 18
                  +1
                  Quote: rocket757
                  Unfortunately, we were not only taught, quite qualitatively, extensively, but also stuffed with propaganda ...... People read About Henry, the same "The Trust That Burst" !!! but who was able to draw what conclusions, showed the subsequent "experiment" with MMM and other "pyramids"! This is some kind of "enlightened" naive!
                  And not only read about the Trust, but the film was with Karachentsev and some Balts, already at the end of socialism ....... And nevertheless, everyone decided that corporatization would bring benefits. CAPITACLISM with a human face. After all, someone called and lost apartments. I personally knew some of the people who sold their Khrushchevs, bought stalls, the stalls went bankrupt. We thought - we’ll spin the money, buy big new apartments ...
                  1. rocket757
                    rocket757 10 December 2020 12: 10
                    +1
                    The identity went through all the stages, i.e. I brought my family to life with a purely team method, tried to help my friends ..... it did not always help, unfortunately. It was not fools who made such scams.
                    Everyone studied in the same way, only the results are different and the result.
                    1. Reptiloid
                      Reptiloid 10 December 2020 12: 22
                      +1
                      Yes, the results are different ... I remembered one professorial family, the teachers wrote books ... At that time they tried to get new apartments for their own money, then everything collapsed, the money disappeared, 2 or 3 times ... and hoped, that this is by accident ... this is capitalism ... as a result, everything accumulated in Khrushchev
                      And what about Putin's words? Maybe this is a warning?
                      1. rocket757
                        rocket757 10 December 2020 12: 25
                        +1
                        It cannot be said that our upper ones do not keep their finger on the pulse of events.
                        But to assert that they are doing the right body movements is also not always so.
                      2. Reptiloid
                        Reptiloid 10 December 2020 12: 38
                        +1
                        Correct or not? This is from whose position to look. It is often heard that we have lost one thing, another. And perhaps there was no task to save at all? At the top? On the contrary, how it turns out.
                      3. rocket757
                        rocket757 10 December 2020 12: 42
                        +3
                        The capitalist international is by no means a fantasy.
                        There are some graters between them, but this does not fundamentally change anything.
                      4. Reptiloid
                        Reptiloid 10 December 2020 18: 16
                        +2
                        Quote: rocket757
                        The capitalist international is by no means a fantasy.
                        There are some graters between them, but this does not fundamentally change anything.

                        Capitalist International? This is yes. Big fish eat small ones! Young money will be withdrawn !!!
                      5. rocket757
                        rocket757 10 December 2020 18: 24
                        +1
                        But whatever you call it, the law of the chicken coop, the law of the jungle ... the essence is always the same. Strong weak, for a snack, nothing more.
                      6. Reptiloid
                        Reptiloid 10 December 2020 18: 33
                        +1
                        laughing every domestic grabber who has this young money considers himself a valuable servant and counts on equality. with foreign. But no. Why is it foreign.
                      7. rocket757
                        rocket757 10 December 2020 19: 28
                        +1
                        Quote: Reptiloid
                        Why is it foreign.

                        Standard. At first they can stroke, and then they will simply strangle.
                      8. Reptiloid
                        Reptiloid 10 December 2020 19: 41
                        +1
                        lol Do not hide your money in banks and corners,
                        Carry your money --- otherwise there will be trouble,
                        And at midnight bury your money in the ground there,
                        And at midnight bury your money in the ground, where?
                        Zaroiste to the ground where .....
                        Not mountains, nor ravines, nor forest,
                        Not an ocean without a bottom and coast,
                        A field, field, field, field of Miracles,
                        And the field, the field, the field, the field of Miracles,
                        A field of miracles in the Land of Freaks.
                        Krex-Pex-Fex ....
                        So it will be with young money: if they steal here, they will lose it there.
  • andrew42
    andrew42 10 December 2020 20: 23
    0
    And the movie was great! Kind of like 3 episodes. Adomaitis with thimbles, and Karachentsov with recipes "from Dr. Vo Vhu". On the Soviet TV screen they played more than once, not twice. Unfortunately, it didn't help. The majority are accustomed to listening to the new "progressive" leaders, not thinking that the "O Henry trust" has become a new model of our (more precisely our former) state.
  • Dmitry Potapov
    Dmitry Potapov 9 December 2020 17: 44
    +32
    And what planet was he on all this time? Although maybe these are thoughts out loud !? Maybe the information comes that people are starting to look for a pitchfork? And the comparison with the USSR is incorrect in my opinion.
    1. sustav75
      sustav75 9 December 2020 18: 23
      +8
      The pitchfork has long been found by the people! And sharpened! A couple more drops of patience ...
      1. Varyag71
        Varyag71 10 December 2020 10: 33
        +2
        Well, as soon as pensions are canceled, or forcibly vaccinated, then these drops will disappear.
    2. Chervonny
      Chervonny 10 December 2020 14: 56
      +22
      Quote: Dmitry Potapov
      What planet was he on all this time?

      On the planet of Illusion ...
  • Thrifty
    Thrifty 9 December 2020 17: 45
    +25
    The Russian economy is going through a difficult period since the collapse of the USSR! Everything is eternal with us, not diarrhea, so scrofula. ..And Putin does not want to ask from himself why some regions are actually donated to those close to the Kremlin, while others are losing their qualifications, because for a long time they have been working not on specialty, because production has been destroyed, and they want to restore it only in words!
  • ALEX_SHTURMAN
    ALEX_SHTURMAN 9 December 2020 17: 46
    +30
    Vladimir Vladimirovich, and you ask Gazprom why it is sponsoring open enemies like Echo of Moscow? Why are you rewarding these tovarisches, we cannot get rid of Chubais's beloved mustache .. Ask Comrade Gref why SberBank does not go to Crimea, and actively buys up assets in Crimea, why did this banker start educating our children according to Western training manuals? Maybe we don't need elections in the country, why do Bankers rule everything ...
    1. evgen1221
      evgen1221 9 December 2020 17: 54
      +18
      There will be a direct line of questions of this kind there will be millions and of course they will be mercilessly banned, and another meaningless blah blah blah will bleed on the air and how good it is to live in Baghdad.
      1. sustav75
        sustav75 9 December 2020 18: 27
        +8
        Okay, at least ban! They have long had a desire to imprison for dissent!
      2. Van 16
        Van 16 9 December 2020 19: 21
        +10
        "straight line"
        The questions will be voiced by the most vegetarian, and the answers - yes, it is in the style of "everything is fine, beautiful marquise"
    2. andrew42
      andrew42 10 December 2020 20: 15
      +1
      For many years now I have been tormented by the question: What is the purpose / task of advertising for Gazprom, etc., which is cheerfully shown on TV channels? Who is her target audience? How does this affect the "consumer interest" in the services / products of our "national heritage"? - No answer. The wildest "marketing" (in quotes) trash, for budget money. Any granny can be proud that in the advertising video of Gazprom (I think the producers and the team raked in not weak money for it, because Level!), - it also contains a hefty part of the unpaid pension, generously "donated" on behalf of the granny to "Narodnoye property ". Here is a good advertisement - the height of cynicism, arrogant, confident, desperately begging in the face. but Putin does not know! What a trouble ...
  • tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 9 December 2020 17: 47
    +18
    In the mid-90s, Rosrybolovstvo was put in charge of a very competent specialist, well, a very literate Chechen by nationality, who only had a rest at sea. He came to Murmansk to hold a meeting. "Fishermen" rushed to his feet, we die, the people do not go to sea He just asked them: Have you tried to pay people money! After these words, he was safely removed from this position. Vladimir Vladimirovich just make them pay a decent salary to employers and that's it. And then you look at least the covid is raging on the planet, and we have millionaires more and more. Don't worry about me, I have a good salary, no matter how like a project under the sovereign's eye. Think about others !!!
  • Director
    Director 9 December 2020 17: 50
    +15
    But then there was not enough, because there was a deficit. And now it may not be enough, because people do not have enough money to purchase certain products at the prices that we observe on the market,

    Well, in the days of the USSR, if you already bought sausage, the smell was in the whole apartment and it was satisfying, because GOST .. Well, and cheap!
    And now there is such a paradox, fields, farms, collective farms, etc. abandoned .. A herd of cattle, sheep are generally not visible on endless fields (unlike the USSR) .. And "sausages" are heaped up in stores that no one buys even an expensive one (it is impossible, ugh disgusting), like bread and other milk. .? Where does everything come from? At the collective farm markets, you can still buy something (albeit a small piece of lard meat) but the real smell and satiety .. And the rest has filled up Russia with a surrogate .. It seems they are struggling with this now, but it is still impossible to eat .. So soon we will crack the Israeli ones that were grown on the sand .. Vkussnyeeee horror !!!!!!!!!
    1. sustav75
      sustav75 9 December 2020 18: 32
      +7
      People go shopping and gaze, where products are cheaper and a promotion, what a discount! And these are the most harmful and on the verge of delay products. They eat, clog their mortal body with all sorts of nasty things, and yet our children also eat it! That's horrible. And there is no end to it ...
      1. Director
        Director 9 December 2020 20: 27
        +1
        Quote: sustav75
        People go shopping and gaze, where products are cheaper and a promotion, what a discount! And these are the most harmful and on the verge of delay products. They eat, clog their mortal body with all sorts of nasty things, and yet our children also eat it! That's horrible. And there is no end to it ...

        In the Urals in the butchers' shops everything is swept away .. Even grandmothers buy there, even a small piece of real meat or bacon, potatoes on it are amazing and satisfying .. And these monsters are supermarkets and all sorts of miracles, etc. MAD! The people understood long ago .. But there is one problem, there are no herds of cattle, pigs, rams ..
        Fodder is expensive and very expensive to keep .... Although there are many fields and pastures!
        There is no support for subsistence farming, everyone is slaughtered and the pastures are bought up (boys from Moscow, etc.), which are simply empty .. That's how they are forced to eat surrogate! To have their chickens, ducks, geese are already becoming golden .. There is nothing to feed (the food is exorbitant in price) and they do not allow to grow them by setting all kinds of checks, etc.
        So they are becoming a system, a global division of labor .. Eat what they give you in these supermarkets and don’t rock the boat .. Soon they will be taxed for each bush of potatoes ...
  • pereselenec
    pereselenec 9 December 2020 17: 51
    +32
    Putin: "Look, no matter how we succeed, as in the Soviet Union - everything is there, but not everyone has enough"


    VVP loves tyafkat on the great country of the USSR!
    1. Director
      Director 9 December 2020 20: 36
      -19%
      Quote: pereselenec
      Putin: "Look, no matter how we succeed, as in the Soviet Union - everything is there, but not everyone has enough"


      VVP loves tyafkat on the great country of the USSR!

      You yapped it, in the 80s and 90s .. You pull out snatches of words and start to get rid of ..
      GDP, at least something is trying to restore, unlike your idols of humpback and drunk ebn .. Of course, it's time to change something, Russia is marking time, but still going forward under the screeching and hysteria of Western and our domestic liberals .. Howl stands for the whole world !!!! bully But figs you ..
      P / S / You will still remember VVP with nostalgia and tenderness, compared to those who come after it .. laughing wassat wink
      1. pereselenec
        pereselenec 9 December 2020 23: 03
        +7
        GDP, at least something is trying to restore, unlike your idols of humpback and drunk ebn ..

        under the screeching and hysteria of Western and our domestic liberals

        It is not easy now for the Olgins - they have to reluctantly try to save the unsaved and sit down in a puddle in public.




      2. evgen1221
        evgen1221 10 December 2020 01: 54
        +4
        What vertical and command the helmsman hires, how he drills and what tasks he gets in the end. You can read the result of the work of His Majesty's team here. Stalin, Roosevelt started in similar conditions - who prevented them from going according to proven schemes? Do they dislike Stalin? Well, Roosevelt, look how he raised the country to depression before the Second World War? They wanted to steal and own everything, and there were no more thoughts in principle - all the work of GDP is an improvisation and a combination of circumstances,
      3. Chervonny
        Chervonny 10 December 2020 14: 52
        +21
        Quote: Direktor
        You will still remember VVP with nostalgia and tenderness

        They remember the times of Stalin and Brezhnev with nostalgia and tenderness ...
      4. andrew42
        andrew42 10 December 2020 20: 07
        0
        This is after your indignation about the "taxable bush of potatoes"? Going forward? No, rather it stands, staggers, sighs on the go. This is about the Russian people. Oligarchs and several hundred thousand sucked to the table? - Yes, these are going forward! To a bright future. Although, as one intellectual said, "not only the FSE."
    2. sustav75
      sustav75 10 December 2020 02: 13
      +6
      Duck he with the same gentlemen as Chubais and her ruined! And he knows how to shed fake tears when necessary ...
  • GELEZNII_KAPUT
    GELEZNII_KAPUT 9 December 2020 17: 52
    +23
    So it’s clear, the USSR didn’t produce anything except galoshes, so there was nothing to eat! And by and large, this person realizes that not enough has been done so that the descendants would remember him with gratitude, but his brain cannot accept this in any way. Someone will say that he raised the army, returned the Crimea, but the army is also needed for its safety, as well as the National Guard, however, and the Crimea is strategically important, we were simply forced to take it, otherwise it would be completely bad.
  • Thrifty
    Thrifty 9 December 2020 17: 52
    +29
    Well, on the 17th of this month, sit comfortably in front of the zombie, prepare empty plates and forks, and just have time to drop the noodles from your ears into the plate. ...
    1. parusnik
      parusnik 9 December 2020 18: 38
      +12
      This is true, and most importantly, how many tons of noodles can you stock up on .. smile
    2. sustav75
      sustav75 10 December 2020 02: 33
      +5
      Many elderly people will do so (my mother-in-law) loyal adherents of GDP. For them, he has already become something like Stalin! Only now Stalin actually lifted the country from the ruins, and this zeroed-out with his friends, the Chubaysians themselves destroyed the USSR, and then everywhere they raised the cry that Putin had lifted Russia from his knees! Clowns! Sick people.
      1. Poganini
        Poganini 10 December 2020 14: 18
        -5
        Putin raised the country in exactly the same way, if not in even worse conditions. The loss of people was the same as in the Second World War, but at least there was an army there, while the GDP had neither the army nor the industry. And now - the second army and the fourth economy in the world. What else do you need? So clowns and sick people here are only those who speak black - white.
  • Machnamh
    Machnamh 9 December 2020 17: 56
    +14
    Progressive tax had to be dealt with at the beginning of the presidency. And this one from 01.01.2021/183/XNUMX is also kind of flimsy. "Almost all oligarchs are not tax residents in Russia. And, as a result, personal income tax in Russia is not paid at all. Everything is legal. For this, all you have to do is to live more than XNUMX days outside the homeland. Not so much torment. Some are there live constantly. And nothing - they keep somehow. "
  • New Year day
    New Year day 9 December 2020 17: 58
    +17
    Putin: "Look, no matter how we succeed, as in the Soviet Union - everything is there, but not everyone has enough"

    apparently they do not report to him that the living standards and incomes of the population are falling, its debt load is growing, and "the number of Russians with incomes below the subsistence level increased in the second quarter of 2020 by 1,3 million compared to the same period in 2019 and amounted to 19,9 million people (13,5% of the country's population) ROSSTAT RF.
    This is what happens when you only think of your friends.
    1. Poganini
      Poganini 10 December 2020 14: 21
      -5
      And in America, almost 50 million people are not just below the subsistence level, but are starving. Is Putin also to blame?
  • fa2998
    fa2998 9 December 2020 18: 00
    +18
    Our state allocates too much money to meet its needs. Any company to reduce officials, results in their increase. New functions are invented, it’s impossible without them. That the salaries are exorbitant, so still cooks, drivers, security, etc. And that's all. receive from the budget. And multibillion-dollar expenses on constant "repairs" of government institutions. Even retired people receive huge pensions and servants. Transport and communications. When will they be full, the question?
  • Esoteric
    Esoteric 9 December 2020 18: 07
    +17
    Well, if we have capitalism, as they say, let's take examples from the countries of capitalism. Clochard, in France, is a state of mind. They like to live like this. It is impossible to die from lack of food, full of absolutely free eateries for such groups of the population. Again, in the order of things, in supermarkets to give away products for free, which come with an expiration date.
    Places to sleep, the word flophouse is not suitable for these institutions, in the not at all cold climate of these countries, the same carriage and trolley are small. So let's learn from this experience? European. We, for those living on the street, have nothing, dead and no business, but what are they, not people?
    And the most interesting thing is that those who despise these people can easily find themselves in their place. It's elementary here.
  • Reserve buildbat
    Reserve buildbat 9 December 2020 18: 09
    +29
    "Do you remember what they said then? They said:" The Soviet Union has everything, but not everyone has enough. "
    Here it is, Mikhalych!
    But I don’t remember that in the USSR, pensioners were rummaging through the garbage dumps in search of food. Here are the pioneers - quite often. Since quite often there were regular competitions for the collection of scrap metal, waste paper, etc.
    And they did not die of hunger in the USSR under the vigorous statements that one should not pay attention to the fall in the ruble exchange rate. The main thing is that it falls steadily.
    1. Poganini
      Poganini 10 December 2020 14: 25
      -3
      Does anyone in Russia die of hunger? Wow! And there will be proofs !? And in Russia I don’t remember people going through the trash heaps. Have you confused with Ukraine for an hour?
      1. Reserve buildbat
        Reserve buildbat 10 December 2020 14: 27
        +2
        I live in Russia and I constantly see homeless people looking for cans-bottles in garbage dumps, retirees rummaging in containers near shops in search of delays, etc.
        1. Poganini
          Poganini 10 December 2020 14: 33
          -3
          This is where it is ???
          1. Reserve buildbat
            Reserve buildbat 10 December 2020 14: 35
            +1
            This is in Yekaterinburg. There is, you know, such a city far beyond the Moscow Ring Road.
            1. Poganini
              Poganini 10 December 2020 14: 56
              -2
              Was like that very much. Compared to our Novosibirsk, it is very compact. And what, really saw the pensioners themselves? And then you have a consulate there amerskoe plows, for his little money there is liberalism that just does not photograph.
              1. Reserve buildbat
                Reserve buildbat 10 December 2020 14: 57
                +1
                I saw it myself. And don't talk about the consulate. My own dream is to slap it with something good, like a "Bumblebee" in every window. They still have small-shaven neighbors there. They also "please"
                1. Poganini
                  Poganini 10 December 2020 15: 15
                  -1
                  Norm! ))) I would love to join!
  • BAI
    BAI 9 December 2020 18: 10
    +23
    Their own well-being and overconsumption, including the acquisition of many houses and apartments, including those outside the country, entire car fleets, opening huge bank accounts, business owners and even government officials consider, even if they deny it in words, the most important and main task.

    1. sustav75
      sustav75 9 December 2020 18: 45
      +14
      I see Golikova - the gag reflex begins! So right now ... sorry
      1. aleksejkabanets
        aleksejkabanets 9 December 2020 20: 17
        +8
        Quote: sustav75
        I see Golikova - the gag reflex begins! So right now ... sorry

        Miss arbidol, evil tongues claim she is the main stakeholder in the production of the covid vaccine, Sputnik.
      2. andrew42
        andrew42 10 December 2020 19: 58
        +1
        Somehow, before going to work, he lingered in passing by the TV. There was a clown recording of the meeting of the cabinet of the LADY. For some reason I looked closely, and .. Dmitry Anatolyich was gently rubbing something on the far end of the table, Siluanov sighed under the stamp of a hangover on his face, and Golikova ... was examining the manicure through glasses, raising her paws to eye level! Krasava! These are the ones that will definitely lift the country from its knees!
  • sustav75
    sustav75 9 December 2020 18: 10
    +25
    Great article! It’s even strange how she was missed here ... Adepts will say right now- "you see, the GDP sees everything and worries about the whole people, he speaks just like us, he is of the same blood with us." No! I don’t believe in Putin’s kindness and care! One has just to look at his friends and entourage, and everything becomes clear - there is an insane enrichment of those close to the GDP and the terrible impoverishment of most of the people. Alas...
    1. Boris Chernikov
      Boris Chernikov 9 December 2020 18: 54
      -36%
      yeah .. so people are poor, that you are already amazed .. there is nowhere to put cars
      1. sustav75
        sustav75 9 December 2020 19: 19
        +14
        Used cars and credit! And the courtyards of houses were built mainly in the USSR! The architects did not think that so much rusty slag would be brought from Japan and Europe!
        1. Bolt cutter
          Bolt cutter 9 December 2020 20: 21
          -14%
          Used cars and credit!
          Yes, even free, they need to be kept. And nothing, contain.
          1. sustav75
            sustav75 10 December 2020 01: 31
            +3
            Don't make people laugh! Car owner! Great achievement! In the west, people give their cars to services and do not worry about costs! And with us, men, as a rule, do everything themselves, or they ask an acquaintance to uncle Vasya, for a bubble.
            1. Boris Chernikov
              Boris Chernikov 10 December 2020 11: 25
              -10%
              "they do it themselves" .. so a lot of car services ...
        2. Boris Chernikov
          Boris Chernikov 9 December 2020 23: 24
          -18%
          and your lip will not crack in 20 years, after the collapse of the country, one war, default, another war, resent that you cannot buy a car for yourself right away .. do not remind in which country you can buy a new car now?
          1. sustav75
            sustav75 10 December 2020 01: 39
            +1
            I don't know what kind of country you have, it collapsed 20 years ago, in 2000! Constantly fighting in the two thousandth and sitting in defaults! Maybe Mozambique? You are not interesting. Even with not cracked lip :)))
            1. Boris Chernikov
              Boris Chernikov 10 December 2020 11: 20
              -13%
              Do you think that the collapse of the USSR, PCHV, default, VChV did not work in 2000? and yes .. why did you decide that who is interested in who you are interested in or not?
      2. Varyag71
        Varyag71 10 December 2020 10: 40
        +2
        And I forgot to write that everyone has a cell phone. This is the economy, uncle. Once upon a time there was only a car, like a cell phone for a select few.
        1. Boris Chernikov
          Boris Chernikov 10 December 2020 14: 33
          -9
          well, yes .. "economy" .. only the car has not become cheaper on average, so here by
      3. Varyag71
        Varyag71 10 December 2020 10: 41
        +2
        Have you been to India? Or in Africa? And Bangladesh?
      4. Poganini
        Poganini 10 December 2020 14: 31
        -5
        Boris, you are not surprised by this phenomenon: we all seem to live in the same country (well, they say so, at least), but why do we see courtyards full of cars, houses under construction, new bridges, roads, enterprises and they see poverty? , dying villages, dying factories. How can this be !? So by God, you can become a subjective idealist from such a cognitive dissonance. )
  • parusnik
    parusnik 9 December 2020 18: 28
    +24
    So reasoning remains reasoning, and reality remains reality, and you and I are well aware of this, and, I believe, the President in the first place.
    ... The president and his comrades have their own, separate state. As they say, the problems of the Indians, the sheriff do not care.
  • Knell wardenheart
    Knell wardenheart 9 December 2020 18: 36
    +13
    As usual, all the more vague speeches, more and more for someone who is not clear.
  • Shahno
    Shahno 9 December 2020 18: 49
    +1
    And who is it? Everything...
  • Boris Chernikov
    Boris Chernikov 9 December 2020 18: 51
    -27%
    and why the article? to the author's wishlist not to work, but to get it for free? Let's start with the fact that why did not the author ask the same Gorbachev why there was no pension fund in the USSR?
    1. sustav75
      sustav75 10 December 2020 01: 44
      +1
      Are you an employee of a pension fund? :)) In my opinion, you have some terrible problems. The main thing you go to the doctor, you never know ...
      1. Boris Chernikov
        Boris Chernikov 10 December 2020 11: 21
        -12%
        and you go to another doctor .. who is responsible for the disorder .. or are you from the "Young Communists" who went under the table in the XNUMXs? then there is still nothing to treat ... there is simply no mind
  • silverura
    silverura 9 December 2020 18: 56
    +24
    Doesn't allow the health to listen to his nonsense, especially after the Chubais are at their posts. Because of such, Putin and the USSR were buried. I asked myself questions, answered myself, and that's it. I'll go throw a hundred gram on, let me go.
  • victorrat
    victorrat 9 December 2020 18: 57
    +22
    How I used to respect Putin! You have no idea. But as soon as the coronavirus began, they went off the rails. The first did not give a damn about the Constitution and legislation, the president. With his Oise, he declared non-working paid days, which is not and is still not in the Labor Code of the Russian Federation (Federal law, which the president does not have the right to change by his Decree. Then more. They began to force him to wear useless rags on his nose without reading either GOST or instructions for them , where it is clearly written that they are not PPE and are not intended for the purposes that have been announced.And about the enrichment of my friends, the provision of privileges to their loved ones, the prohibition of confiscating the property of corrupt officials, the concealment of theft (only one Taburetkin and Vasilyeva are worth something) Mockery of the old people, so that they stay at home. So he would sit himself and not stick out with his fellow comrades, and put on a rag on his nose. And then suddenly it became a discovery for him that the people did not have enough money for food. Indeed, rich does not understand the hungry.
    1. Roman070280
      Roman070280 10 December 2020 09: 31
      +2
      How I used to respect Putin! You have no idea. But as soon as the coronavirus began, they went off the rails.


      Somehow late in the day you saw the light ..))
      I was up to 15 years old, if I didn't adore, then at least I was more likely to have a positive attitude .. Well, then ..))
      1. andrew42
        andrew42 10 December 2020 19: 50
        0
        It's too late. In the 15th. Until 2009, I will say so, there were doubts, "what could be ..." indeed, this is how the Ruler will begin to unfold the Bird-Three to a brighter future! But .. 2009 crisis showed "who are his people." Then in 2014, weak doubts arose on the Crimean wave, although there was no longer any hope. Trampled 10 m deep in 2018 after the famous Putin's "There will be no return to the USSR" and "Our ideology is patriotism." Then everything went frankly bolder and bolder. Now the only question is whether the clans will sculpt a papier-mâché figure for a reserve, or are they ready to start a fight in the "post-warranty" time.
  • syndicalist
    syndicalist 9 December 2020 19: 09
    +9
    No, you can endure. And the worst, too, would have endured - not like that. The indignation among the people is not at all because of this. Outraged by the sharp increase in the income of officials and oligarchs during the pandemic. And they do not even hesitate to show it in the official statistics. If only for PR, like Western billionaires, they donated part of the super profits to those who are really starving. And at the same time they pass laws on life guarantees for their loved ones.
    1. silverura
      silverura 9 December 2020 19: 21
      +7
      No, you can endure
      For a long time I categorized myself as suffering. I was wrong, I realize the mistake.
    2. Chervonny
      Chervonny 10 December 2020 14: 47
      +19
      Quote: syndicalist
      If only for PR, like Western billionaires, they donated part of the super profits to those who are really starving

      Yeah, how ... And meanwhile:
      Khakass officials decided to encourage themselves on the eve of the holidays at the expense of residents. Dozens of employees of different ministries will receive additional payments from the deficit budget. They plan to take money from ordinary citizens, or rather from funds that were previously intended for social needs - medicine and education.
      https://ren.tv/news/v-rossii/781025-glava-khakasii-vypisal-svoei-komande-ogromnye-premii-za-schet-zhitelei
  • Well done
    Well done 9 December 2020 19: 15
    -23%
    There are a lot of sofa "experts" here, there are enough critics ... Well, let's go in 2024! Where are you in reality ?! I already wrote about this - I grabbed a bunch of cons. Everyone criticizes Putin, and they voted for him. Even the minuses do not bother to justify the "generals" of the couch troops and the adherents of the first post.
    1. Alexander Kopychev
      Alexander Kopychev 9 December 2020 19: 32
      +17
      They don't even bother to justify the cons


      What else is there to justify? 17tyr - he has a middle class!
      1. Well done
        Well done 9 December 2020 19: 56
        -16%
        Well, come up with an alternative. Themselves voted for, and now? Was it necessary for Sobchak? "The people deserve the power they choose." This is Socrates speaking. That's all.
        1. Alexander Kopychev
          Alexander Kopychev 9 December 2020 20: 16
          +5
          Well, come up with an alternative. Themselves voted for, and now?


          Do you know how this system works? What is the alternative? Shoigu, except that he sits exactly but the priest! What is left of the democracy of Socrates? And I didn't give you any minuses. You see the problem as I do, only you express yourself in other words. hi And Yes !!! I have long ignored the elections. This is the position, let them wind up their rating with a 5 percent turnout!
          1. Well done
            Well done 9 December 2020 20: 52
            -9
            Socrates despised democracy) I completely agree with your arguments. It's just that sometimes unreasonable whiners annoy me. What prevents them from going into the oil and gas industry? Run kudant? So no ... It is written in our blood - to blame anyone, but not ourselves. It's easier to indicate your position with the mouse) I am disabled 2 gr. with a pension of about 12 tr, they brought the ballot to my house, voted for. I see no alternatives. Such is the paradox.
            1. Alexander Kopychev
              Alexander Kopychev 9 December 2020 22: 21
              +7
              I see no alternatives. Such is the paradox.

              So what's the point of stepping on a rake? When they see the empty ballot boxes, let them explain the "popular support". You are showing approval to Him by your actions. And the oil and gas industry is not rubber and to climb into power - to lose the remnants of conscience!
              1. Alf
                Alf 9 December 2020 22: 49
                +12
                Quote: Alexander Kopychev
                When they see the empty ballot boxes, let them explain the "popular support".

                For this, electronic voting was introduced so that no one could see how many votes were actually given for Putin.
              2. Well done
                Well done 9 December 2020 23: 39
                -7
                "Civic duty" is not just empty words for me. Vote, serve in the army, etc ... Ignore the elections? It is similar to "In spite of grandmother - I will frostbite my ears!" About the industry and conscience - yes, it didn't work out with that! And that's why we communicate here, instead of counting and spending money. We ourselves are to blame. The psychology of slaves is alive in us. Did Putin's leytehi have a conscience?
                1. Alexander Kopychev
                  Alexander Kopychev 10 December 2020 12: 09
                  +1
                  We ourselves are to blame. The psychology of slaves is alive in us.

                  Exactly - the people did not want to become slaves again in the 40s, but today they themselves have become slaves? In 91, the overwhelming majority voted for the Union. But the ruling system will not allow any choice, it was impossible in the USSR either. They turned the Civil Duty into "We Can Repeat", thereby giving the liberal a reason to scream about "Victory". And VVP shyly covered the Mausoleum with plywood, he sits on a chair himself, thanks for not being on the throne.
                  1. Alexander Kopychev
                    Alexander Kopychev 10 December 2020 12: 17
                    0
                    All that remains of Civic Duty ...
    2. Drovosek
      Drovosek 9 December 2020 20: 00
      +10
      Quote: Welldone
      while voting for him.

      Is it naive to believe in "elections" - or do you believe ??)
      1. Well done
        Well done 9 December 2020 20: 08
        -12%
        Foreign observers did not find any serious violations. I want to believe the facts, let alone fantasize a personal matter)
        1. Drovosek
          Drovosek 10 December 2020 14: 36
          +3
          Quote: Welldone
          Foreign observers did not find any serious violations. I want to believe the facts, let alone fantasize a personal matter)

          Do you seriously believe foreign observers - you are more naive than I thought))
    3. evgen1221
      evgen1221 10 December 2020 02: 05
      +3
      Welldone Are you sure that in the last election he did not add interest to himself? And who was to vote for, all were of the same berry. Well, the candidate is against everyone (the point is such in belluteni) - Unfortunately, he did not make it to the final for technical reasons.
    4. sustav75
      sustav75 10 December 2020 03: 40
      0
      They have already repented! And in 2024 they won't let themselves be fooled! If the hand in the voting booth does not flinch! :)))
    5. Roman070280
      Roman070280 10 December 2020 09: 25
      +1
      Everyone criticizes Putin, while went to vote for him.

      Get involved ..))
  • Alexander Kopychev
    Alexander Kopychev 9 December 2020 19: 28
    +3
    So GDP has eaten fish soup !!!
  • Ryaruav
    Ryaruav 9 December 2020 19: 29
    +14
    poor fellow only just learned the straddler for the people
  • Lesorub
    Lesorub 9 December 2020 19: 44
    +8
    Of course, it is difficult to disagree with the words of the head of state. But on the other hand, we must not forget that Vladimir Vladimirovich has been at the head of state, in the posts of president and prime minister, for more than twenty years in aggregate. Therefore, if someone is to address the question of why people do not have enough money for food and why food is so expensive in relation to the salaries and pensions of Russians, then first of all it is to him, the head of the Russian state.

    This is about the country - where the entire periodic table is mined)), you probably need to stop feeding the states with gold and hydrocarbons.
    Such a feeling does not possess reality - from the word at all.
  • Petrol cutter
    Petrol cutter 9 December 2020 21: 05
    -8
    "If the most ordinary people see and understand this - from schoolchildren to pensioners, it would be strange to think that the head of state and his inner circle do not understand the real situation in the country."
    I absolutely agree.
    At the same time, I observe at my work that about forty percent (at least) of employees absolutely do not care about it. They don't do anything useful / just imitate work. But at the same time, they require a fairly high salary. Considering that they did not find themselves in the garbage.
    A similar situation is presumably taking place in the country.
    Putin will not be able to insert his brains into everyone's head.
    I can't do it either.
    From this, those who really want to make money suffer and really work hard when they come to their workplace. Bo will be deducted from your money and distributed to the rest of your comrades. Who want to live like under socialism. And what is in the yard?
    Correctly - Capitalism.
    1. andrew42
      andrew42 10 December 2020 19: 40
      0
      Gas cutter, so you sounded a fair paradox: Capitalism is in the yard, and the workers "imitate". Previously, under socialism, they also "imitated", but as they say, from lack of awareness. Now why? - It seems like "capitalism" should urge on with the "club of the market". But no. Managery is alive and well, but there are no specialists. And the truth is simple: the reason, as it was, and remained - in motivation. How was it under the Soviet Union? - No matter how much you overfulfill, you won't get any more (although there were exceptions). What do we have today? - No matter how hard you try, you will get the maximum "penny for vodka" from the "owner" (already WITHOUT exceptions). The difference is who is the "boss". Earlier there was a state, in our time - a bunch of private traders of different levels of access to the budget, imitating the "state". I liked the old "master" more, - "gid" less :))
      1. Petrol cutter
        Petrol cutter 10 December 2020 20: 56
        0
        The paradox is that we have semi-capitalism mixed with the remnants of socialism. I am not a supporter of half-measures in production.
        In a team, let's say twenty-seven employees. Of which: three - stupidly thump and do not go to work for weeks. Then they write at their own expense retroactively.
        Five are endlessly ill.
        Ten - they seem to go to work, but the results of their activities tend to zero ...
        Another five people are really doing something / helping. Yes. They are extremely valuable.
        And only the remaining comrades actually break the navel and earn money for the whole team. So-called.
        You say, fire half of these antichrists / take them away from me.
        They answer you, do you see what business? Labor Code / ShMoT ...
        Factory order ...
        We won't fire them just like that. Never.
        This happened fifteen years ago in the north, and a similar picture is still present.
  • 7,62h54
    7,62h54 9 December 2020 21: 26
    +10
    When will you fall already
  • ZVS
    ZVS 9 December 2020 21: 36
    +15
    Decided to spit in the USSR once again? You first make it so that everyone in your country can have the same purchasing power as in the USSR, and then get out on TV. Made 140 million slaves of the country's population for hundreds of the richest families in the country and now spits regularly in the USSR. The USSR gave me money and paid decent pensions, and the food was of high quality. And you Vladimir Vladimirovich, if you remove low-quality food, there will be a total deficit of everything! Not even bread will be in stores. And all your abundance is built on ersatz products. Nowadays, young people have no idea about real food!
    1. Chervonny
      Chervonny 10 December 2020 14: 37
      +19
      Quote: SU
      Decided to spit in the USSR once again?

      What else remains? The bourgeois-oligarchic system has no particular achievements.
  • Bourgeois 1963
    Bourgeois 1963 9 December 2020 22: 14
    +9
    That's right, don't give a damn about the USSR. It was always possible to earn decent money there. In 79, after grade 10, I worked as a loader at a meat processing plant. The salary was 155 rubles. A meal in the dining room cost 20 kopecks, a spoon was really in the borscht, and the cutlets were the size of a plate. Alcohol (it was used to disinfect the pipes through which blood was transported) on the territory of the plant was sold twice as cheap as vodka in the store. Pies for a snack, they were simply taken in the pie shop for free. For drinkers, it was a heavenly place. At the end of the shift, a package weighing no more than 1 kilogram could be carried through the checkpoint. The package could contain meat, sausage, boiled pork, in general, anything, no one opened the package. In addition, shock work at the plant gave 15 - 25 rubles a day of stable income from the left. My friend and I took a taxi to work and home, it cost one and a half rubles at the end. Those were good times of developed socialism. fellow
  • Million
    Million 9 December 2020 22: 35
    +8
    Yes, the president is very far from the people ...
    What is he doing ?????
    1. Alf
      Alf 9 December 2020 22: 46
      +11
      Quote: Million
      What is he doing ?????

      She feeds her friends at the expense of the state.
    2. Chervonny
      Chervonny 10 December 2020 14: 34
      +22
      Quote: Million
      What is he doing ?????

      Plays "good tsar" and "bad boyars" yes
  • paul3390
    paul3390 10 December 2020 00: 13
    +4
    Quote: Million
    what is he doing ?????

    Magazine photography -
    A detachment sits by the fire.
    You did not recognize Volodya?
    He sat in the front row.

    Runners are on the photo.
    With numbers on the chest.
    Ahead of someone you know -
    This is Vova ahead.

    Volodya was shot on weeding,
    And on holiday, on the tree,
    And on a boat by the river
    And at the chessboard.

    He was shot with a hero pilot!
    We will open another magazine
    He stands among the swimmers.
    Who is he in the end?
    What does he do?
    The fact that he is removed!
  • Iskazi
    Iskazi 10 December 2020 02: 53
    +8
    Again, the Kremlin-Ogarevsky inmate scares the people ... but it will be like in the USSR, as much frost on the skin ..., horror
    1. Chervonny
      Chervonny 10 December 2020 14: 32
      +21
      Scare, a favorite thing of the bourgeois-oligarchic system. Either they frighten with "legions of LGBT people" on our borders, ready to invade our country, then with the Soviet Union ... Tomorrow they will probably start scaring aliens bully
  • tatra
    tatra 10 December 2020 05: 13
    +4
    If it has arrived somewhere, it has disappeared somewhere. If the enemies of the communists, who for 30 years cowardly blamed on the communists for the results of their work after their capture of Russia, including Putin with his "galoshes", who blamed the Soviet communists for the economy created by the enemies of the communists and their Yeltsin-Putin power and colossal incomes and salaries, this is due to the fact that the Russian people have become impoverished. But it is not enough for the enemies of the communists to rob the people, they still have to make fun of the people "you are poor, because you are lazy and drunkards, you have to work."
  • georggy
    georggy 10 December 2020 06: 07
    +7
    USSR IS RIGHT AS A BONE IN HIS THROAT.
    WHAT ARE YOU STEALING WITH YOUR MIRACLES ALL THESE YEARS AND SELLING ON THE SIDE. YOU HAVE ENOUGH.
    1. Chervonny
      Chervonny 10 December 2020 14: 29
      +21
      The authorities are well aware that they have nothing to be proud of, that the people are increasingly looking at the USSR with its problems positively. Therefore, the authorities are trying to tarnish the Soviet period in the history of our country.
  • oracul
    oracul 10 December 2020 07: 05
    +1
    Everything would be fine if, when assessing the reasons for the deficit in the USSR, the main reason was revealed - there was no such gap in the level of income of citizens as it is now and, accordingly, everyone had access to basic products. In fact, the needs were different, and the price did not work.
  • FRoman1984
    FRoman1984 10 December 2020 07: 47
    +4
    Is it zeroed out of the bunker? Did you notice that many people have problems with products? The people have been on the brink of ... either extinction, or revolution for many years
    1. Chervonny
      Chervonny 10 December 2020 14: 26
      +21
      Quote: FRoman1984
      Did you notice that many people have problems with products?

      Didn't notice ... Just trying to show himself "good and caring"
  • Radikal
    Radikal 10 December 2020 09: 17
    +2
    Quote: Vadim237
    “I don’t see any queues for about 30 years and I don’t want such sausages .. Even cats do not snort her.” Yes, because you have been buying and watching what kind of cheap crap all these 30 years - a good quality sausage costs money.

    Well, ash tree stump - you probably consume Ot Palycha sausage? lol
    1. Alf
      Alf 10 December 2020 21: 15
      0
      Quote: Radikal
      Quote: Vadim237
      “I don’t see any queues for about 30 years and I don’t want such sausages .. Even cats do not snort her.” Yes, because you have been buying and watching what kind of cheap crap all these 30 years - a good quality sausage costs money.

      Well, ash tree stump - you probably consume Ot Palycha sausage? lol

      Here is the composition of the sausage from Palych.



      Everything is the same - phosphates, nitrites, improvers, amplifiers .. But the price is different ..
  • Roman070280
    Roman070280 10 December 2020 09: 17
    +2
    It would be better not to say anything about the Soviet Union about his fraudulent mouth ...
  • Radikal
    Radikal 10 December 2020 09: 43
    +4
    Quote: Million
    Yes, the president is very far from the people ...
    What is he doing ?????

    He ... rowing. sad Oars ... winked
  • Varyag71
    Varyag71 10 December 2020 09: 51
    +2
    Does anyone else believe and listen to the words of the guarantor?
    1. Chervonny
      Chervonny 10 December 2020 14: 24
      +22
      Judging by some comments, there are still such ...
  • Radikal
    Radikal 10 December 2020 09: 58
    +5
    Quote: Rubi0
    This is what the witnesses of the USSR have minded you, they need everything to decide for them, decide where to work according to distribution, decide when to get a car to buy an apartment, solve the problem of pensions, but they themselves do not want to think at all. Why, for example, a pension if you can earn millions up to 30. By learning from the aligarhs, the same Friedman in 86 when he was 26 years old organized a Soviet Swiss enterprise, while many of those present here were picking their noses

    Kid, you first have to "rub" something here, learn yourself - you have problems with the Russian language. sad