Media: Border guards of the FSB thwarted an attempt by the SBU to kidnap a former militia

The Ukrainian Security Service is behind the attempt to break through from the territory of Ukraine into Russia by three armed unknown persons on December 4, 2020. It is reported by "TVNZ" with reference to unnamed sources.

According to the newspaper, the SBU was carrying out another operation on the territory of Russia, the purpose of which was to capture and deliver to the Ukrainian territory a Russian who had previously fought in the militia in Donbass. The publication claims that the saboteurs managed to take a hostage and inject him with a chemical solution that blocks the will to resist. After that, the group headed for the Russian-Ukrainian border.

From the side of Ukraine, the group with the hostage was to be met by a group from the Ukrainian MTR, moving towards the meeting, but stumbled upon the Russian border guard. As a result of the shootout, one of the MTR fighters was killed, two more managed to escape, and the captured Russian was released. Nothing is reported about the fate of the saboteurs, the Russian special services are revealing the Ukrainian spy network.

As the official representative of the Investigative Committee of Russia (TFR), Svetlana Petrenko, said, a machine gun, a magazine with cartridges, a walkie-talkie and a night vision device were found at the border during the shootout. A criminal case was initiated.

Recall that the State Border Service of Ukraine denies the fact of the shooting that took place on the Ukrainian-Russian border.

It is noted that this is the third attempt by the Ukrainian special services to take hostages on Russian territory from among the former militias who fought in the Donbass.

After 33 "Wagnerites" arrested near Minsk and miraculously did not find themselves in Ukraine, there was also the abduction of a former militia in the Moscow region, also - to be transported to the Square

- the newspaper writes.

Comments

[Bashkirkhan]

Like a gateway, saboteurs climb like at home, militias are taken out, doomsday planes are surrounded.

[carstorm 11]

propose to attach to each guard? they started to become impudent this fact. apparently in the coming days something will happen. this is never left unanswered.

[My_log_in]

I propose to focus on ensuring the inviolability of the borders and the observance of law and order, and not on the angry philippics of the Foreign Ministry and others ... And then "... you cannot win a war sitting on the defensive ..." I did not come up with it.

[Dodikson]

I completely agree with the last sentence, it’s fucking already, kakly do what ours should do.
for now, take out a couple of scum from the territory of 404 and try them in the DPR.
their agility will be sharply reduced, and so they feel unpunished and are already climbing into our territory.
it would be necessary to bring Avakyan and a couple of bumps from the SBU to the DPR to judge and shoot, the kakly will suddenly become peace-loving.

[Ingenegr]

What problems? Drive, deliver - it's that simple.

[krot]

the saboteurs managed to take a hostage and inject him with a chemical solution

For the caught saboteurs and agents of the Sumerians, solutions must also be used so that the brains never work again!

[Dodikson]

if they equip, instruct and send, then I will go.

[common man]

Quote: My_Log_In

I propose to focus on ensuring the inviolability of borders and respect for the rule of law,

It is probably time to help Yatsenyuk build a fence on the border of Russia with the "square" since they themselves cannot. To stop the wobbling "back and forth" of Bandera rabble.

[fruc]

That will not remain unanswered, there is even no doubt about it.

[ioan-e]

Quote: carstorm 11

propose to attach to each guard? they started to become impudent this fact. apparently in the coming days something will happen. this is never left unanswered.

I propose to use this situation as a casus belli and fulfill the warning of the GDP that we will hit the headquarters and calibrate the SBU headquarters, having previously recognized it as a terrorist organization!

[Paragraph Epitafievich Y.]

Quote: ioan-e

I propose to use this situation as a casus belli and fulfill the warning of the GDP that we will hit the headquarters and calibrate the SBU headquarters, having previously recognized it as a terrorist organization!

Just think - yes, you, my friend, are burying your strategic talent in VO! On Smolenskaya Square, they are as needed! A person who knows the term "casus belli" is just a storehouse of diplomatic wisdom. Their calibers, scoundrels, calibers!

[Odessa Greek]

Wai, wi, how much sarcasm You, my friend, for the sake of completeness, you need to jump and shout about the evil Morder and the light elves of Ukraine !!!! And then you will definitely be invited to the place of the former "genius" Klimkin, or almost that the "genius" of Kuleba and you will be appointed Minister of Foreign Affairs of the Independent Well, let's together, like elves, shout together - SUGS !!!!! Glory to Ovulation !!! Smirt curds !!!

[Paragraph Epitafievich Y.]

do not squeal, Odessa boar. I do not care who is who in your square stall. Rake your own manure.

[Odessa Greek]

By the way, my friend, judging by your activity since the registration since August 26, 2020, you write, on average, 15 comments per day So, with such a Stakhanov approach, it is you who bury your talent here, so go ahead, dear, to work in the Foreign Ministry Nezalezhnaya, there, "real" patriots are needed Or are you already working there and is your place of work here?

[Odessa Greek]

What's up little? What is this hysterical clucking about? Have I stepped on YOUR corn about your work as a professional bot on VO? Nu-nu, don't act like parsley, it's a shame. my friend

[Paragraph Epitafievich Y.]

Go your shame pod, yellow-blue boar.

[Odessa Greek]

Hamovato and rude of course ... But in professional bots, perhaps rudeness and rudeness are welcomed in the first place. So, work here further, do not reduce your activity, continue to burp 15 comments a day. We must amuse the people

[Paragraph Epitafievich Y.]

a must, a screech, a must. In general, you don't need much talent to amuse the pigs. Have fun, barefoot.

[Odessa Greek]

Funny, well, you know better how to amuse pigs, you certainly know your social circle better than anyone Work, then go on a funny boat. On this I stop our funny dialogue, I'm sure we'll see you at your next Expert regurgitation

[Paragraph Epitafievich Y.]

Quote: Odessa Greek

well, you know better how best to amuse the pigs,

of course. You are trained pigs. It's easy with you.

[lelik613]

The Ministry of Foreign Affairs both before 1917 and after was and is an organization for the sale of sovereignty for popcorn.
In the words of "neighbors" - Ministry of Health and Sabotage

[210ox]

They will never leave without an answer ..... Yeah. Express concern.

[Svetlana]

Yours is not true. The militia was not taken out, but stopped.
And thieves will be found in a couple of days, there is a narrow circle of airport people. Although yes, the failure of the guard, on the face.

[Dodikson]

if you are talking about a doomsday plane, it’s not a fact that there was a theft at all, they already wrote that this plane was given for 2 years of repair and modernization, and therefore that equipment was stupidly dismantled, and the liberal media let the duck about theft.
although Peskov seemed to admit that there was some kind of incident.

[boris epstein]

The answer from a competent source.
"The plane of" Doomsday "of Putin was robbed by unknown
We'll have to disappoint you, gentlemen!
- When the special board was sent to the factory, all special equipment was removed from it.
- It is necessary. All equipment related to encryption and decryption, all communication connectors must be dismantled without fail. This is done even with some flights to other aerodromes. And it is delivered either by another plane or by "land" in advance.
This plane, which arrived at the Taganrog Aviation Scientific and Technical Complex, of course, did not have top-secret and secret blocks. There was ordinary equipment with the help of which communication is carried out, as in civil aviation.
And more.
These are air command posts (VPCs), designed to control strategic forces in the event of a breakdown of ground forces. These are spare, reserve aircraft. Such an aircraft has the Commander-in-Chief of the Air Force, the Commander-in-Chief of the Ground Forces, and the Commander-in-Chief of the Navy. Each military district has such aircraft. "
From the experience of my service in the ranks of the Soviet Army, I can confirm that the ZAS equipment was loaded into the front compartment of the KUNG control room P-270 (ZAS-telephone) or P-271 (ZAS-telegraph) immediately before leaving for the exercises and was handed over to the warehouse under protection after returning ... Even in the boxes (not to mention repairs in the workshops) there was no ZAS equipment in KUNG.
Not to mention the Doomsday plane.

[KCA]

I was called up just before the end of the USSR, 06.12.91/142/161, and somehow no one took the ancient Yacht or the digital Flywheel off their cars, I spent half a year on the DB in R-XNUMXN on the Yacht under the seat, although I used it only once during a radio training session, the "Flywheel" was on the R-XNUMX, and it never even occurred to anyone to hand over this cabinet, although it contained more than one kilogram of gold. Yes, even on the relay on the switch he was on duty, the secret equipment for sealing the channels was also not removed, although there was a secretary, only I don’t even remember his face, how the mouse slipped into my room and boozed alcohol, which I received to wipe the contacts

[My doctor]

Quote: KCA

I was called up just before the end of the USSR, 06.12.91/142/XNUMX, and somehow no one took the ancient Yacht or the digital Flywheel off the cars, I spent half a year on the R-XNUMXN DB on the Yacht under the seat, although used only once on radio training

I did not know about the kg of gold, now it is clear why the head of the ZAS was so often angry because of the torn off plasticine seals on the latches.

[KCA]

In "Flywheel", the gold was mainly on the outputs of planar microcircuits, it's so easy to get it right away, or, as an option, to hand over the entire rack to the Armenians, but this is definitely fraught with a tribunal and 20 years in the zone

[svp67]

Quote: Bashkirkhan

the militias are taken out,

Here you are wrong, the militia, but not a simple one, but the commander of an anti-aircraft unit, who has on account of several shot down aircraft of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, they managed to capture, but not taken out. After that, the data appeared, where and when they will be met at the border. It is a pity that no one could be taken alive from those who met.
And so, the impudence of Ukraine is already crossing all borders.

[SSR]

Quote: Bashkirkhan

Like a gateway, saboteurs climb like at home, militias are taken out, doomsday planes are surrounded.

Unfortunately, it is difficult to distinguish a non-noisy person from an ordinary person if he hides his noisiness, and there are enough sympathetic idiots.

[fruc]

As a result of the shootout, one of the MTR fighters was killed, two more managed to escape, and the captured Russian was released. Nothing is reported about the fate of the saboteurs, the Russian special services are revealing the Ukrainian spy network.

Shit !!! So, wait. Isn't it time to respond with the same methods. For example, to take out war criminals (thugs) from the Ukrainian side in handcuffs and shackles to the Russian Federation. I think they would be very sociable and talkative.

[Igoresha]

photo of a corpse https://ua-katarsis.livejournal.com/867578.html
there is no machine gun in the frame. The full name was found out, he did not serve in the army.

[Thrall]

This shaggy man in his mother's sweater and a slide had nothing to do with the shootout on the night of December 4 at the border.

[Igoresha]

had it, it was Kassad who raised the wave by reprinting information from some telegram channel, which was there and knows everything

https://colonelcassad.livejournal.com/6382703.html


close-up the same photo, the same sweater and the same absence of an abandoned machine gun ..... 99% of the contraband went

[Normal ok]

Quote: Igoresha

had it, it was Kassad who raised the wave by reprinting information from some telegram channel, which was there and knows everything

https://colonelcassad.livejournal.com/6382703.html


close-up the same photo, the same sweater and the same absence of an abandoned machine gun ..... 99% of the contraband went

You think politically.

[Igoresha]

so one can speculate that the group was going to kidnap the geopolitical chess player

[Jager]

Babakhs do not serve in the "army" either, but nevertheless their training is higher than the army one.

[Incvizitor]

They do not need to be taken out, but destroyed, on the spot.

[Mar.Tirah]

Quote: Bashkirkhan

Like a courtyard

I agree. We have already written more than once about an organized group on the territory of Russia in the Rostov region, in particular, which is working to neutralize and kidnap militias with the aim of exporting them to Ukraine on the instructions of the SBU, and this is not their first action. cover groups of the SSO SSU with border guards left the victim and disappeared in our territory. These are not very good events for the special services of Russia. With groups of refugees and displaced persons from eastern Ukraine, they leaked and legalized for their activities in the border territories.

[Dimide]

MTR not SBU, but MO

[PSih2097]

Quote: Dimid

MTR not SBU, but MO

not a fact, in the same states the MTR uses all available (CIA / NSA / DEA / PMCs), and not only exclusively a warrior, I think that the same is happening in Ukraine.

[Mar.Tirah]

Quote: Dimid

MTR not SBU, but MO

What relation to the saboteurs abandoned in Russia has the MO read the APU? In the news, there is a message about the SBU, which has previously tried to do this, unsuccessfully true. To the ASU, the main task of which is the fight and damage to Russia, I would still agree.

[Dimide]

GUR and SVR are working behind the "hillock".
SBU by law, domestically

[polar fox]

Quote: Mar. Tira

These are not very good events for the Russian special services.

because the special services are not homogeneous: some bandits and saboteurs are caught, others are squeezed out of the police and sold ... and this is in one department.

[Mar.Tirah]

Quote: polar fox

because intelligence agencies are not homogeneous

The KGB also had one department, and how many departments were there? What was intercepted speaks of the effectiveness of the work, besides, they were most likely helped by specialists from the CIA. I think after this second call it will become even better and stronger.

[pereselenec]

Quote: Bashkirkhan

Like a gateway, saboteurs climb like at home, militias are taken out, doomsday planes are surrounded.

To get an objective idea of ​​the quality of the work of our special services and border guards, you just need to look at the quality of our medicine, economy, space industry, electronics and education, and everything will become clear.

[Looking for]

I don't like the "minus signers" to look the truth in the eye, they all translate into "well, not everything is so bad with us" AND LIVING in the 70-80s is quite an adult. I affirm !! - EVERYTHING IS VERY BAD. !!! And every year it gets worse and worse.

[gsev]

Quote: pereselenec

the quality of our medicine, economy, space industry, electronics and education, and everything will become clear.

Medicine is similar to the example of Covid in Russia better than in the USA and Europe. Education on the example of the development of a vaccine against covid is better than in the United States, Israel and the PRC. By the example of mass production of this vaccine, we are lagging behind China, Israel and South Korea. The material for masks that can really protect against Covid was bought by the PRC in large quantities in Russia. So it's not all bad when the business is run by professionals like Alexander Gunzburg. And it's not fun when a journalist tries to teach designers and mathematicians.

[pereselenec]

vaccine

Any conclusions about the usefulness / harmfulness of our vaccine (as well as about other vaccines) can be made, as with a vaccine against any other disease, after 5-10 relatively mass immunizations. That's how Putin himself vaccinates, then it can be considered safe enough.

[gsev]

Quote: pereselenec

conclusions about the usefulness / harmfulness of our vaccine (as well as about other vaccines)

In 5-10 years about 2 million people will die from covid without vaccination in Russia, all doctors will be dismissed. And if the information is confirmed that the covid has mutated into a more deadly form, then about 40 million people will die. At one time, Catherine 2 was vaccinated with a smallpox vaccine, which was tested much worse than the vaccine developed by Gunzburg and saved the life of both herself and her son. And the Austrian emperor showed discretion and caution and doomed part of her family to death.

[Fitter65]

Quote: Bashkirkhan

Like a front yard, saboteurs climb like at home

You forgot to clarify that the Ukrainian saboteurs ...

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: Bashkirkhan

Like a gateway, saboteurs climb like at home, militias are taken out, doomsday planes are surrounded.

Don't jump to conclusions based on this message alone. Something doesn't fit here. See for yourself - the "saboteurs" took a hostage and took him to the border. MTR fighters were going to meet them. During the exchange of fire, 1 SSO fighter was killed, two others fled. And where did the "saboteurs" go if the hostage was released? Why not a word about them?

[Eraser]

"... Nothing is reported about the fate of the saboteurs, the Russian special services are revealing the Ukrainian spy network."
Should I personally tell you in which pre-trial detention center they are?

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: Eraser

Should I personally tell you in which pre-trial detention center they are?

No, the message that they were caught is enough for me. Everything.

[Eraser]

So those who were in contact with them, catch any bit of information, caught them or not? Do you want to make their life easier? Have you ever heard the words "operational development", "operational play"?

[Maz]

It's nice that my colleagues from the Russian FSB Border Troops have not lost their grip on green caps. And then the SSO APU is a complete D-O.

[kit88]

It's time to declare the SBU a terrorist organization

[rocket757]

Shaw has to do with terrorists?

[cniza]

Quote: rocket757

Shaw has to do with terrorists?

The conversation is short, when resisting, destroy ...

[Director]

Quote: cniza

Quote: rocket757

Shaw has to do with terrorists?

The conversation is short, when resisting, destroy ...

Anywhere ..

[gsev]

Quote: cniza

The conversation is short, when resisting, destroy ...

A higher class is to convert or at least interrogate.

[PSih2097]

Quote: rocket757

Shaw has to do with terrorists?

As SMERSH did in his time, so do (and what else to do with Bandera, everything was invented before Us) ...

[German Titov]

In the people's republics, they are.

[tralflot1832]

Again, they figured out on social networks? People with these gadgets completely lost their heads.

[Dimide]

From an unnamed source, everything is clear.
In the 90s "Komsomolskaya Pravda" was called, to put it mildly, "balabolka".

[olegfbi]

The Ukrainian Security Service is behind the attempt to break through from the territory of Ukraine into Russia by three armed unknown persons on December 4, 2020.

This information has been on the news feeds for a couple of days.
Just don’t understand why the Russian Foreign Ministry is silent in a rag? Where is the statement from the government of the Russian Federation?
In fact, the operation of the state secret service is ruins, with the participation of military personnel and fire contact on the territory of Russia - This is a real "Casus belli"!

[pereselenec]

Quote: olegfbi

Why is the Russian Foreign Ministry silent in a rag? Where is the statement from the government of the Russian Federation?

Are you eager to read about severe concerns? Here, and I say to you instead of them:

- The Ministry of Foreign Affairs and the government are very concerned, express their protest to the Ukrainian partners and declare that such actions are inadmissible in the future. Our side warns that such actions can be qualified as a provocation and states that it will work constructively to prevent such incidents.

Happy now?

[common man]

Quote: pereselenec

Happy now?

Not really. They forgot to add that, as a gesture of goodwill, we propose to vaccinate all SBU employees from "covid 19" free of charge, so that they do not spread the infection across Russia.

[gsev]

Quote: man in the street

As a gesture of goodwill, we propose to vaccinate all SBU employees from "covid 19"

If a Ukrainian is vaccinated with a non-American or non-European vaccine, our enemy partners will lose a dozen or two dollars that they would have earned on the vaccine or a hundred or two on the medicines sold for the sick person.

[PSih2097]

Quote: olegfbi

This is a real "Casus Belli"!

the first real Casus Belli was during the shelling of the Rostov region in 2014, so what? They mumbled something, promised to roll it out and that's it ...
The same USA, with a hypothetical shelling from the territory of Mexico, would take out the entire border area, and then make a security belt there.

[tank64rus]

Completely insolent, they will soon be driving in tanks. Or you have to fight off the hunt once and for all. We all express our concern. I can imagine if this was done against amers or Israelis. We have all our oligarchs there for our oligarchs and we can not touch them.

[AlexVas44]

There are no people like N. Karatsupa and his Dzhulbars today.

[Avior]

The dogs of Karatsupa - there were 5 of them, all died in the service - they called Indus.
Karatsupa from Ukraine, present-day Zaporozhye region

[Chizhov Kirill]

acho king, wiped himself off and expressed concern?

[hhhhhhh]

Kiev should have been bombed?

[Normal ok]

Quote: Kirill Chizhov

acho king, wiped himself off and expressed concern?

It's just that the tsar is aware that the information voiced in the article is just "noodle" on the ears of readers.
In reality, there are dozens of counter-gangsters running around. Someone was shot. But, any yellow media is not interested. So they write about "intrigues" and "intrigues". And the people comment with gusto.

[iouris]

And when will there be operations against the SBU? Debt payment is red (if the object is solvent, of course).

[aleks26]

Quote: iouris

And when will there be operations against the SBU? Debt payment is red (if the object is solvent, of course).

At VO, they will definitely inform you in advance.

[lelik613]

Never on saint's day.

[hhhhhhh]

So you can just set up an ambush near the militia and catch the saboteurs irrevocably.

[Paragraph Epitafievich Y.]

Quote: hhhhhhh

So you can just set up an ambush near the militia and catch the saboteurs irrevocably.

catch bastards with live bait!

[PSih2097]

Quote: hhhhhhh

So you can just set up an ambush near the militia and catch the saboteurs irrevocably.

Would you agree, imagine - you are a militia, you have a family (wife, two girls / girl and a boy)?
Imagine what these ghouls will do to your loved ones (and after all, for them, you are a potential corpse, preferably after a show trial), but what they will do with your wife and children before you are taken out - you better not even imagine (the Caucasus is resting) .. ...

[hhhhhhh]

The option when you are alone with them is much better?

[The leader of the Redskins]

with reference to unnamed sources.
I can call this article fiction or nonsense. For, hiding behind the above-mentioned wording, you can safely weave aliens, otherworldly travelers and pink elves.

[donavi49]

Well, there is a corpse in the hill in the photo.

There is also official information
Investigative Committee of the Russian Federation opened a criminal case after a shootout on the border of Russia and Ukraine

An assault rifle, a magazine with cartridges, a walkie-talkie, a night vision device were found with the eliminated intruder. - items were seized as material evidence.

[Paragraph Epitafievich Y.]

What an exciting story. Everything is perfect in it: a syringe with a relaxant, a shootout, and a denial of the incident by the Sumerians. Just a godsend for the tabloid. The main thing is that Svetlana Petrova told about the machine gun and night vision devices, and to finish writing the heartbreaking action, referring to "unnamed sources" - for the journalists to send as two bytes. It's already yellow in the eyes ...

[Director]

In general, the testimonies became insolent .. Another small country would have already inflicted an air strike on the bases ..

[HAM]

Krasnopresnensky District Court will open a new criminal case against the SSO SBU ..... will scare them to hiccups ...

[Dart]

embarrassed by the wording - "next" operation, as if it were already commonplace .... they should not be next, they must be reduced to zero, and I think that this is how it is ... Or the author has "it itself" was it written?

[Kronos]

In 2016 there was a breakthrough to Crimea.

[fiberboard]

So much for Siluanov's initiative to reduce the security forces. They would have stolen Siluanov himself, it would have been wonderful. The border troops were already driven. Money support is like in the army, rations have been canceled (except for regions equated to the Far North), they are constantly depriving everything that is possible. People have been living at the outposts for years, the shortage of personnel is huge. Only in the headquarters everything is crammed, but in the directorates. It has long been necessary to change everything. I do not know who advised the radiant one that it is better to guard the border by operational means. The training of operational officers in border schools does not stand up to scrutiny. They will recruit urban boys, whose relatives are able to push them through, teach them something, and then release KARAUL.

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

You can talk as much as you like. But the FSB is not the kind of organization that will release all reliable information. But the entrance courtyard must be closed. Gaster from Ukraine staggers back and forth. Who doesn’t ask everyone either ,, turYzm ,, or they begin to whine that they’re bad at the Square and there is no work.

[tovarich-andrey.62goncharov]

The main thing is that Ukrainian grandmothers were not offended? And then the GDP with Medvedchuk will be very upset ... We seem to have a mosquito (MTR) and a fly (piled on) ...

[Vlad Pervovich]

but how did the group leave ... ???

[iouris]

Which to the top. Not stopped.

[Egor53]

These saboteurs are instructed at st. Vladimirskaya 33 Kiev. I don't know where they cook, but the FSB knows for sure.
Iskander get there.
How long can you wait and endure?

[Egor53]

Anyway, it will not do without a war with Ukraine. You need to start it at a time favorable for Russia. And do not waste time.

[gsev]

Quote: Egor53

Anyway, it will not do without a war with Ukraine.

Now the US and Ukraine are mainly at war with Covid-19-2 US-200 wounded, 000 killed, Ukraine 3000 wounded 12000 killed, Russia 250 wounded 27000 killed per day. I will assume that no military forces in the world can inflict such losses on the United States without using weapons of mass destruction for several months. More or less like this. It looks like medicine in the United States and Ukraine and in Russia is at its limit. More recently, far less than 600 people per day died in the United States, and in Ukraine, per 1000 people of the population died and became infected less people than in Russia. However, the national patriots forced Zelenskiy to ease the quarantine in Ukraine under the threat of overthrow.

[kitpit]

Impunity corrupts. So soon Vova will be dragged across the border

[svoit]

Quote: cniza

The conversation is short, when resisting, destroy ...

so after all, "soaking in the toilets" should not wait for some kind of "resistance"

[stels_07]

You can praise the SBU for the courage, and the fact that they were able to carry a prisoner of 1000 km across Russia

[Abrosimov Sergey Olegovich]

Quote: carstorm 11

propose to attach to each guard? they started to become impudent this fact. apparently in the coming days something will happen. this is never left unanswered.

In order for this to stop, it is necessary that someone from Putin's inner circle - friends, family members - should be stolen ... while the actions of the SBU concern us - ordinary rabble and cattle, nothing will change ...

[Stalnov I.P.]

And what does it say, if they are already stealing secret equipment, working on our territory and trying to steal people, then where are the high-sitting men, where is their political will. I use the language to grind on the "box" it is not a country to govern, here the mind is needed, will, discipline and the highest responsibility. It is not visible yet.

[Radical]

Quote: carstorm 11

propose to attach to each guard? they started to become impudent this fact. apparently in the coming days something will happen. this is never left unanswered.

Are you talking about Israel?

[perm23]

One thing is not clear where they got the information. where he lives. and where is the group that took it, then someone is draining from us