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Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of Ukraine: Ukrainian military in Donbass will receive portable electronic warfare systems to combat UAVs

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Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of Ukraine: Ukrainian military in Donbass will receive portable electronic warfare systems to combat UAVs

Units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, fighting in the Donbass, in the near future will be armed with portable systems to combat drones. Ruslan Khomchak, Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, said this in an interview with the "Armyinform" news agency.


According to the commander-in-chief, in the near future, the Armed Forces of Ukraine will receive foreign-made electronic guns to combat enemy drones. At the same time, Khomchak did not specify what kind of electronic warfare systems Ukraine will receive, whose production and in what quantity.

Very soon, our warriors will have foreign-made electronic guns on the front lines to effectively combat enemy UAVs

- leads the portal of the words of Khomchak.

In addition, the Ukrainian Navy in 2021 will receive: the Neptune coastal missile system, 3 American Island-class patrol boats, a medium reconnaissance ship, a small armored artillery boat "Gyurza-M" and several assault landing boats.

Earlier, the US Defense Cooperation and Security Agency published a report stating that in 2020 the United States supplied Ukraine weapons for a record amount - $ 510,5 million. All deliveries were made within the framework of the program for the sale of weapons and military equipment to the armed forces of foreign states (FMS).

According to the agency, from 1950 to 2015 inclusive, Ukraine received weapons from the United States for 179,2 million dollars, in 2016 - 226,5 million, 2017 - 207,7 million, 2018 - 250,7 million, and in 2019 - 272,4 , $ XNUMX million.
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  1. The leader of the Redskins
    The leader of the Redskins 8 December 2020 21: 51
    -4
    We'll chew - we'll see. The main thing is not to forget, otherwise there are many promises. Too much...
    1. figwam
      figwam 8 December 2020 22: 02
      +5
      So they say they are preparing an offensive again in the coming months, Turkey will help.
      1. Andrei Nikolaevich
        Andrei Nikolaevich 8 December 2020 22: 26
        -6
        Armenians, Turkey has already helped.)
      2. Machito
        Machito 8 December 2020 22: 51
        +4
        Quote: figvam
        So they say they are preparing an offensive again in the coming months, Turkey will help.

        You shouldn't laugh. The Bidenites have already flown to Kiev, they want Donetsk shale gas. It's high time to strengthen the NM LDNR. Biden for the sake of his son's interests can arrange a massacre in the Donbass.
        1. Nyrobsky
          Nyrobsky 9 December 2020 00: 06
          +13
          Quote: Bearded
          Quote: figvam
          So they say they are preparing an offensive again in the coming months, Turkey will help.

          You shouldn't laugh. The Bidenites have already flown to Kiev, they want Donetsk shale gas. It's high time to strengthen the NM LDNR. Biden for the sake of his son's interests can arrange a massacre in the Donbass.

          In the Luhansk region, they drilled several dozen wells and, having received almost zero exhaust, left, leaving the equipment. So most likely they will realize their interest in the Ivano-Frankivsk region and that is doubtful, since British Petroleum also curtailed its activities in this field, because investments in gas production, in terms of profitability, will not justify themselves. So there are other interests rather than gas ones. Nevertheless, one cannot but admit the fact that dill, stumbling and bouncing, little by little, but strengthen their capabilities in order to maximally spoil Russia in any direction, be it land, sky or sea, which is good. The nastiest thing in this situation is that, seeing their attempts to inflict any damage on us, we perceive them with irony, hoping that their capabilities are incomparable with ours, instead of hacking them at the root, at the stage of preparation. After all, the hedgehog understands that a hanging gun will ever fire, and a belated attempt to take this gun will lead to real losses.
          1. sustav75
            sustav75 9 December 2020 05: 37
            +2
            In 2014, Putin's friends, aligarhi, asked not to send troops to Ukraine, to protect Russians and Russian-speaking people! We were afraid of Western sanctions! Bandera supporters were not strangled then! Now we have at our side, extremely hostile and constantly replenished from the west, with all kinds of weapons and specialists Ukraine! We got the full sanctions, everything Russian is being destroyed in full! The Minsk agreements are an eternal swamp! Putin outplayed everyone again ...
  2. Avior
    Avior 8 December 2020 21: 53
    +6
    ... from 1950 to 2015 inclusive, Ukraine received weapons from the United States for 179,2 million dollars,

    Sensational news smile
    Ukraine has received weapons from the United States since 1950 smile
    1. halpat
      halpat 8 December 2020 22: 30
      +3
      Quote: Avior
      ... from 1950 to 2015 inclusive, Ukraine received weapons from the United States for 179,2 million dollars,

      Sensational news smile
      Ukraine has received weapons from the United States since 1950 smile

      laughing
      but no matter how funny it was, this is a direct living example of rewriting history.

      By the way, I recently bought an uav for myself :)), I manage, bastard.
      small but "evil" quadcopter.
      so he flies trees and is easily controlled, the quality of the shooting is excellent, but he is not visible or heard ... 50-80 m height is optimal, and more is possible.
      2 km away from me (the operator) it is super controlled, but you can up to 4 km.
      A terrible little thing, if you follow someone, use it for some kind of combat purposes.
      1. Avior
        Avior 8 December 2020 22: 56
        +2
        We somehow let it go, he flew there, and back against the wind slowly flies, and the battery sits down before our eyes.
        They planted them away from possible people in the bushes, rushed themselves urgently - to pick them up quickly, well, it was possible to drive up smile
      2. Gato
        Gato 8 December 2020 23: 14
        +1
        Scary thing

        Don't exaggerate. There is no carrying capacity, the channel is not protected and is jammed at times even by police jammers
        1. halpat
          halpat 9 December 2020 10: 52
          0
          Quote: Gato
          Scary thing

          Don't exaggerate. There is no carrying capacity, the channel is not protected and is jammed at times even by police jammers

          as a bomber ... somehow I didn't think laughing I'll be honest.
          I have to watch the birds, the animals. My dogs bark at him :)).
          but if you want to observe something else, then no one will recognize it, since it simply cannot be seen or heard.
          Well, I have no desire to climb to some policemen :))
    2. Nyrobsky
      Nyrobsky 9 December 2020 00: 15
      +4
      Quote: Avior
      ... from 1950 to 2015 inclusive, Ukraine received weapons from the United States for 179,2 million dollars,

      Sensational news smile
      Ukraine has received weapons from the United States since 1950 smile

      As far as I understand, this is nothing more than the first official recognition of the United States that they supported all kinds of scum like "forest brothers" by supplying them with money and weapons. In principle, this was known before, but that would be like this, officially and openly admit his complicity in those crimes committed by the Bandera shortcomings in the post-war period on the territory of the Ukrainian SSR, perhaps it was announced for the first time.
      1. Avior
        Avior 9 December 2020 07: 47
        -1
        Then it would have been before 1950, not after
        They have already explained what the subtlety is
        Data in this document are for all countries since 1950.

        It's just that the report contains one column
    3. Sofa batyr
      Sofa batyr 9 December 2020 04: 00
      +5
      Quote: Avior
      Sensational news smile
      Ukraine has received weapons from the United States since 1950 smile

      Is it sensational for you to recognize the United States in supporting the terrorist activities of the UPA (Bandera) underground gangs in the post-war period?
      "With 1950 year"They just rounded it off, and so, almost immediately after the end of the Second World War, their strategic service, using German archives with agents, established a close relationship with many groups of" green brothers "in the Baltic States, Belarus, Ukraine.

      You need to know the history ...
  3. Lesorub
    Lesorub 8 December 2020 22: 02
    +5
    According to the agency, from 1950 to 2015

    Most likely a typo, the author was a little mistaken.
    1. major071
      major071 8 December 2020 22: 16
      +6
      According to the American report, the total cost of arms supplies to Kiev for the period up to 2015 inclusive amounted to 179,2 million. The data in the document are given for all countries since 1950. hi It's just American bureaucracy
      1. Avior
        Avior 8 December 2020 22: 35
        +2
        Understood thanks.
      2. Niel-le-Calais
        Niel-le-Calais 8 December 2020 23: 59
        +2
        Quote: major071
        According to the American report, the total cost of arms supplies to Kiev for the period up to 2015 was 179,2 million

        they always have a long period. And they don't make a difference. They have the second half of the century and from it the countdown
        By the way, most of all in 2020, the United States supplied equipment and weapons to Taiwan (almost $ 11,8 billion) and Poland ($ 4,7 billion).
        And the post-USSR space is so
        Lithuania for $ 136,5 million,
        Georgia - $ 62,8 million,
        Latvia - $ 38,1 million,
        Moldova - $ 11,5 million,
        Turkmenistan - $ 1,3 million,
        Kazakhstan - $ 1 million,
        Estonia - $ 610 thousand,
        Azerbaijan - $ 509 thousand,
        Armenia - $ 2 thousand
  4. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 8 December 2020 22: 04
    +3
    Yes, and two hand-held nuclear grenades ... with a radius of 100 meters ... laughing
    1. poquello
      poquello 8 December 2020 22: 38
      +2
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      Yes, and two hand-held nuclear grenades ... with a radius of 100 meters ... laughing

      someone quietly disagreed, probably three grenades each
  5. Lesorub
    Lesorub 8 December 2020 22: 05
    +3
    Ukraine received weapons from the United States for 179,2 million dollars, in 2016 - 226,5 million, 2017 - 207,7 million, 2018 - 250,7 million, and in 2019 - 272,4 million.

    These are weapons for promoting Western "democracy", the principle in action - divide and rule.
  6. nnm
    nnm 8 December 2020 22: 06
    +1
    There is nothing good in the news that the enemy is arming. Yes, somewhere with old stuff, somewhere they will take them apart, but they are armed. Yes, all this is not just "help", as they like to say in Ukraine, but the most common loans, contracts, paid state guarantees. And on the one hand, these loans, in fact, wash out the last penny from the economy of an already impoverished country, and on the other hand, this even more ties our enemies with a leash to the hand of the West.
    And sooner or later, these non-brothers are capable of unleashing a war, like Saakashvili.
    1. Avior
      Avior 8 December 2020 22: 17
      +3
      In this case, it was not about loans, but about assistance.
      1. nnm
        nnm 9 December 2020 06: 21
        +2
        There is no such thing when it comes to the United States !!! The budget provides for state guarantees for the recipient. In other words, you go to the bank and on the terms of a loan under the guarantee of the US Treasury, it pays for a deal with an American company. In fact, this is the same loan. Even the decommissioned boats were sold at a price of 10+ million dollars - "for related expenses."
        1. Avior
          Avior 9 December 2020 07: 43
          +1
          Boats are free, operating costs are paid.
          Loans are loans, but help. is help. You are just confusing different types of funding
          1. Herman 4223
            Herman 4223 9 December 2020 10: 02
            0
            We also call Lend Lease help. But in essence it is an installment purchase. The United States will in any case find a source of income from the assistance provided.
            1. Avior
              Avior 9 December 2020 10: 07
              0
              Lend Lease was the help. precisely help during the war.
              they did not promise to take for life support.
              The States transferred materials and products for a huge amount, equivalent at the prices of that time to 11 thousand tons of gold.
              returned from this amount a meager part in 60 years.
              1. nnm
                nnm 9 December 2020 13: 02
                +1
                Stop composing. As agreed by the parties, the cost of Lend-Lease in the USSR is 5 billion, in Britain - 30.
                In addition, they demanded the return of equipment and so on that were not lost by the end of the war. They just drowned the same jeep from barges, just not to leave. All that remains is at the cost of cunning and evasion. And there is no need to make philanthropists from the United States here - at this price they bought for themselves the withdrawal of the forces of the Germans and the Japanese from their actions. And we not only ended up paying with money, but also with the lives of the soldiers. So there is no need to broadcast about how Lend Lease won the war.
                1. Avior
                  Avior 9 December 2020 13: 24
                  0
                  Stop composing.

                  great advice. always follow it. while you're bad at it.
                  The law on lend-lease (i.e. on loan assistance) was extended to the USSR
                  November 7, 1941 The total volume of deliveries during the Great Patriotic War
                  war amounted to 12,38 billion dollars (including from the United States - about
                  $ 11,32 billion, UK $ 1,01 billion, Canada $ 0,05 billion2)
                  in the prices of that time.

                  Lend Lease is help during the war. The States did not take us for life support, so after the war they offered to either return what was left or pay a symbolic price.
                  And what they stoked, so whoever needed trash killed by the war, there was an abundance of this in the States.
                  About pulling off the Japanese, you have a new look at history.
                  Are you aware that we had neutrality with Japan?
                  And we not only ended up paying with money, but also with the lives of fighters

                  we fought with the Germans because Hitler attacked us, and not because the deal was made - with the lives of our soldiers to pay off. and in any case, lend lease was at war or not.
              2. Herman 4223
                Herman 4223 9 December 2020 13: 06
                0
                Just a scanty part? Lend Lease assumed that everything should be returned, we returned everything, the debt was repaid.
                1. Avior
                  Avior 9 December 2020 13: 32
                  0
                  no, they returned a small part, finally settled at the beginning of the 21st century.
                  Interest on debt was not calculated and inflation was not counted.
                  In the United States, it was initially calculated that the amount payable for the surviving civilian equipment and equipment, taking into account their wear and tear, is $ 2,6 billion, for negotiations this amount was halved, to $ 1,3 billion.

                  of which the USSR and then Russia returned $ 722 million for it, excluding dollar inflation, so the amount must be divided by 15 or something like that.
                  1. Herman 4223
                    Herman 4223 9 December 2020 14: 20
                    0
                    The surviving equipment returned back. Is this money for the equipment that the USSR returned or kept for itself?
                    1. Avior
                      Avior 9 December 2020 19: 41
                      +1
                      This is money for what the USSR kept for itself.
                      Basically, these are factory equipment, machine tools, which were supplied by tens of thousands, and so on, partially also other equipment.
                      This was calculated at the prices at which they were supplied, they made a discount for wear and tear - an amount of 2,6 billion in residual value was obtained.
                      The Americans immediately removed half of this amount and offered to pay $ 1,3 billion.
                      ours offered 170 million or so, I write from memory. We traded for a long time, during this time the dollar has greatly depreciated, in the end the main part was paid by the Russian Federation as the successor of the Union - about 720 million - if we take into account inflation, this amount should be divided by 15, if I am not mistaken. This is what they actually paid.
                      hi
                  2. nnm
                    nnm 9 December 2020 19: 29
                    0
                    Clearly, the numbers are from a source such as Wikipedia. Well, what were they ashamed to write next about the Lend Lease amount for the UK? 31 + billion, I'm not confusing anything? And how, having received at least three times more aid, did many islanders fight? So it turns out, it's not about Lend Lisa ...
                    1. Avior
                      Avior 9 December 2020 19: 44
                      +1
                      Only the American lend - lease in the USSR, the equivalent of gold at the price of gold at that time was 11 thousand tons.
                      This is the cost of almost half of the world's gold reserves at the beginning of the war - it was then about 25 thousand tons.
                      So you understand the amount of aid?
                      1. nnm
                        nnm 10 December 2020 06: 41
                        0
                        Not in Kursk gold quotes in those years, and therefore I will not compose. So it turns out that Britain's aid was more than the entire gold reserve of the world? About 33 thousand tons? And in this case, I repeat - have many islanders fought?
                      2. Avior
                        Avior 10 December 2020 07: 37
                        0
                        the navy is drawing a lot of money.
                        What do you care about that? They have their own relationship. Or are you one of those who like to count other people's money?
                        They helped you for a huge amount of money, although they did not owe or owe you anything.
                        Have a minimum of gratitude.
                      3. nnm
                        nnm 10 December 2020 08: 14
                        0
                        Oh, how convenient: I see here, but I don't see there.
                        And I repeat - they did not help us, but themselves and nothing more. Or remind you of Truman's words about the principles of their "help"? We paid off our debt in blood, so that Germany could not be distracted by the allies. And they drove us into Studebaker, Willys, which were abandoned by their Ministry of Defense, outdated models of their aircraft, useless tanks, etc. Yes, we needed it during the war, but the fact that Lend Lease is just manna from heaven is not worth lying. Our debt was fully paid by the SS and Wehrmacht divisions, which the Germans could not remove from the front, it was paid by our offensive 2 months earlier at the request of the Allies ...
                        So if you like the position of the debtor, favored by the grace of the owner, then I have to admit that you neither know history, nor have pride. A sort of older version of the koli from Urengoy.
                      4. Avior
                        Avior 10 December 2020 08: 51
                        0
                        ek you are healthy to compose
                        If they, according to the Truman principle, helped, which really corresponded to the interests of the United States, we would have had much more victims, and we would have come out of the war bloodless and would not have dreamed of any competition with the United States, especially since at that time we had current Treaty of Friendship with Germany.
                        Only Truman was no one then, Roosevelt decided, so we received help almost until the end of 1945.
                        Studebaker, Willis? Yes, we had nothing better than anything, and they chose them themselves. Out of 650 thousand Willys production, only 50 thousand got to us, the most massive army car for decades to come.
                        Did you really read the history textbook at school? We fought with Hitler not to pay off some debts, but because Hitler insidiously attacked us without declaring war, despite the Treaty of Friendship concluded with him, and we would have fought with Hitler, regardless of whether there was a Lend Lease or not, we have a choice did not have.
                        And they had, and they chose to help us, although they were not obliged to.
                        And you should have a minimum of respect for your help.
                        Do not try to talk about what you have no idea about
                      5. nnm
                        nnm 10 December 2020 08: 59
                        0
                        Reading your escapades, you are simply amazed at your ability to turn and distort words. For example: what did we have better here or not ??? They had !!!! But it was not supplied to us. And there is no need to compose about what we were given, what we asked for. All our applications were strictly edited by the Americans. An example is radar and bombers.
                        And how can you lie .... Truman said it on 23.6.41 .... what kind of treaty are you broadcasting about friendship between the USSR and Germany?
                        You will distort the facts and lie so stupidly to someone else.
                      6. Avior
                        Avior 10 December 2020 09: 18
                        0
                        Do not try to talk about what you have no idea about
                        Truman said this on 23.6.41 .... what kind of treaty are you about that broadcasting about friendship between the USSR and Germany

                        On the Treaty of Friendship and Borders between the USSR and Germany, concluded on September 28, 1939 and officially terminated by the USSR on July 30, 1941 in the Maisky-Sikorsky Treaty, thus, at the time when Truman said this, the treaty was still formally in force, although the war had begun ...
                        The Americans gave not what they asked for, but what we ourselves chose, to the extent that they could provide, they were not magicians either and they had their own worries. Nobody forced us to take a specific position from the list - the Americans could not provide it - it was possible to take something else, the lists are large.
                        Willis is the best that was at that time, the legendary car, with minimal changes, is still producing a civilian version called Jeep Wrangler. To write that the Americans refused it, how do you show your complete ignorance of this issue.
                        Your primitive inventions, with complete ignorance of the subject of the conversation, fully correspond to your ridiculous aplomb.
                        hi
  • nnm
    nnm 9 December 2020 12: 50
    +1
    But I only know how these 500 million were prescribed in the US budget - state guarantees for the acquisition
    1. Avior
      Avior 9 December 2020 12: 56
      0
      there are state guarantees, there is help
      Different things
    2. Avior
      Avior 9 December 2020 12: 57
      +1
      there are state guarantees, there is help
      Different things
  • 113262a
    113262a 8 December 2020 22: 30
    0
    So far, the non-brothers have an unconditional superiority in UAVs. Quantitatively, exactly! Since the age of 14, drones have been purchased and supplied by volunteers, from those used by Ali to decent Chinese and Turkish small and medium-sized drones. And the God's chosen ones had a hand. The production is expanded at the most non-profitable private firms. All this is used - our remaining behind DONTS REGULARLY SEE THEIR DRONES IN WORK, ALREADY HAVE GOTTEN THAT SOMETHING IN THE SKY IS LOOKING. Alas, this is a rarity in our country, sometimes at night we observe the flight of a scout. And in the army, drones are rare, they are protected for a rainy day.
    1. Vitaly gusin
      Vitaly gusin 8 December 2020 22: 58
      0
      Quote: 113262
      Yes, and God's chosen hand had a hand.

      Not a ride lol
      Israel canceled the decision to supply unmanned aerial vehicles to Ukraine after the call of Russian President Vladimir Putin to Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.
      The Russian media reported that 10 Outposts and 27 Outposts were purchased in Israel. It turned out that in reality they bought a slightly larger amount.
      And three more UAV Searcher 2 for $ 69,47 million.
      Bird-Eye 400 is a small tactical drone
      1. Avior
        Avior 8 December 2020 23: 10
        +2
        This is old news, back in 2015
        Last year, another flashed

        Israeli Ambassador to Ukraine Joel Lion noted that Ukraine and Israel discussed the prospects for cooperation in the field of military production. The agreement may result in the joint production of unmanned aerial vehicles.
        1. Brturin
          Brturin 9 December 2020 00: 06
          -1
          Quote: Avior
          This is old news, back in 2015
          Last year, something else flashed - Israeli Ambassador to Ukraine Joel Lion noted that Ukraine and Israel discussed the prospects for cooperation in the field of military production.

          Everything in this world is interconnected - the truth is not yet 2015, but in 2016 "Israel asked Russia not to promote a giant deal to sell modern fighters and other weapons to Iran," the resource writes with reference to Defense Minister Avigdor Lieberman. https://topwar.ru/103899-smi-tel-aviv-poprosil-moskvu-ne-prodavat-iranu-vooruzhenie.html
          1. Avior
            Avior 9 December 2020 00: 13
            +2
            Debt good turn deserves another:)))
        2. Vitaly gusin
          Vitaly gusin 9 December 2020 00: 13
          -2
          Quote: Avior
          Last year, another flashed

          You are right, flashed and went out, well the ambassador said
          but it is not he who decides.
      2. 113262a
        113262a 9 December 2020 08: 22
        +1
        Israel sells whale kits - control systems and avionics, while gliders make ponadusertsi themselves. On downed and planted toys, only the price in shekels is not visible)))
  • Avior
    Avior 8 December 2020 22: 34
    +1
    In Karabakh, even full-fledged electronic warfare stations did not show themselves very well in the fight against drones.
    Will jamming be effective with such “guns”? If it is effective, why did the Armenians not have them? Their use in Syria and Lebanon is not very visible either.
    Although there are a lot of messages on the network about the creation of such jammers.
    Or are they only effective against simple ARVs?
    Another problem is UAV detection. The video from Karabakh shows that in most cases the Armenian military simply did not see the UAVs, for them the blow was unexpected.
    Or is this gun capable of determining the operation of control systems?
    In principle, it should not be difficult to register the operation of the UAV control - a radio signal, especially from a seen, cannot be hidden.
    But for some reason it was not defined that way.
    1. Herman 4223
      Herman 4223 9 December 2020 12: 39
      0
      The gun suppresses control at a distance of several hundred meters, if the drone did not have time to capture the target for auto-tracking, then it will help, if it does not have time, it will arrive, no matter how hard you try. There should also be a person nearby who is with the equipment that should detect the drone. Larger systems operate on the same principle, but only at significantly greater distances.
      I don’t understand at all about the Armenians, they did not even try to test these guns in practice, although they do not require long training and are not expensive. It is not clear how they generally tried to overcharge the funds that they had. They had their own production system. There should also be a lot of such systems to cover all areas of possible strikes, and as I understand it, there were also problems with the number.
      1. Avior
        Avior 9 December 2020 12: 58
        0
        and, most importantly, even now no one says that they would be effective in Armenia.
        nothing about it
        1. Herman 4223
          Herman 4223 9 December 2020 13: 10
          0
          Apparently, there was simply a drain, otherwise it is difficult to understand. I understand that the gun is the last straw and it might not help much or only half, but the fact is that they didn't even try.
          1. Avior
            Avior 9 December 2020 13: 36
            +1
            there is no information anywhere that it was purchased
            Pashinyan for two years, who interfered before?
            I have never seen reports of actual use of these manual systems in combat.
            drones have been widely used for a long time
            1. Herman 4223
              Herman 4223 9 December 2020 14: 32
              0
              They are not effective against conventional unmanned vehicles, their flight height is greater than the range of the gun. Now, if the drone descends below five hundred meters, then he risks, but why should he? These guns are well used in civilian life, in stadiums, crowded places, etc., see the military reception, where our developers boast that during the Olympics two hundred copters were brought down in small complexes, and drove even more.
              1. Avior
                Avior 9 December 2020 14: 34
                +1
                against civilians is understandable, but in a combat situation against the military?
                1. Herman 4223
                  Herman 4223 9 December 2020 14: 41
                  0
                  I have not heard anywhere like you. Although the Barmaley drones are the ones to drive. Well, kamikaze drones are also quite small.
  • Gato
    Gato 8 December 2020 22: 44
    +1
    electronic guns of foreign production to combat enemy drones

    I was tormented by vague guesses ... until I entered the kitchen:

    But no, it can't be that simple ... wassat
    1. Avior
      Avior 8 December 2020 22: 59
      +1
      Unless to shove it inside, and even then the magnetron or the fuse will burn out at the same time :))))
      1. Gato
        Gato 8 December 2020 23: 04
        +2
        what to put inside

        That's who's talking about, although he's the same ... laughing drinks
        No, you can just open the door, maybe some HARM will fly in ... at the light.
        1. Avior
          Avior 8 December 2020 23: 16
          0
          This bike was
          Even the old ones did not fly in, and the modern versions with a microwave radar in addition to a passive gsn for radiation, all the more so
          And the bike is clumsy - to take the microwave out to the balcony and wait for the missile hit - nothing more stupid could be thought of. The Darwin Prize is drawn to smile
          But in such stories, the main thing is that the people believe in what they want to believe. That is how man is made.
          1. Gato
            Gato 8 December 2020 23: 22
            +1
            This bike was

            Everyone believes what they want to believe
            1. Avior
              Avior 8 December 2020 23: 27
              +1
              It just so happened
              Trust, but check as it is forgotten in such cases ...
  • tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 8 December 2020 23: 34
    +2
    All deliveries were made within the framework of the program for the sale of weapons and military equipment to the armed forces of foreign states (FMS).

    "Freebies" are dumb. You have to pay for everything, Americans are not suckers. But from what money will China be paid for Motorsich? ”But this will not end with good for the“ Svidomo ”.
    1. Brturin
      Brturin 9 December 2020 00: 53
      +1
      Quote: tihonmarine
      what money will be paid to China

      So the Chinese can take in kind ... At one time they did not give a grain loan, they wrote that they were ready to "sell the PRC to the State Food and Grain Corporation (SFGCU) within the framework of the reprivatization being prepared by Groisman." https://ukraina.ru/exclusive/20180814/1020810910.html. And there are elevators, berths ... Moreover, they themselves admitted that because of this debt they cannot do anything with it - "According to the Minister of Agriculture Taras Kutovoy, not only the sale of the HMO will be problematic. The head of the ministry criticizes the loan from China , received at one time by the State Food and Grain Corporation of Ukraine: "The essence of this contract is that we cannot alienate anything from the company. The contract was signed completely on the side of the Chinese. It is not in our interests. We can neither restructure it, nor assets to withdraw, not to sell to someone other than the Chinese themselves ... The problem for the state is precisely within the limits of this Chinese loan. How the company will return 1,5 billion, despite the fact that about $ 230 million was stolen. "
      https://regnum.ru/news/economy/2166891.html
    2. Avior
      Avior 9 December 2020 10: 09
      +1
      Why should Ukraine pay China for Motor Sich?
      like the opposite is the situation.
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 9 December 2020 10: 54
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        Quote: Avior
        Why should Ukraine pay China for Motor Sich?
        like the opposite is the situation.

        All according to the old proverb "Our calf, but eat the wolf." Don't choke.
        1. Avior
          Avior 9 December 2020 11: 20
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          that you have a mysterious presentation
          Do you think that the reports that the Chinese paid money for the Motor are false?
          1. tihonmarine
            tihonmarine 9 December 2020 11: 26
            +1
            Quote: Avior
            Do you think that the reports that the Chinese paid money for the Motor are false?

            No, just the Chinese paid, in normal American dollars. But they didn't get what they bought. But Ukraine wants to eat fish and pocket money. As it is all not "by concept."
            1. Avior
              Avior 9 December 2020 12: 02
              +1
              The money was paid not to Ukraine, but to Boguslaev.
              They were in a hurry, they had to start with permission for the deal, now they want to get it retroactively.
  • agoran
    agoran 8 December 2020 23: 44
    +1
    And rubber bonbs?
    They jump 100500 times and trample everyone.
  • Niel-le-Calais
    Niel-le-Calais 9 December 2020 00: 13
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    OU USA is the main supplier of military and humanitarian aid to Ukraine.
    658 million only in the first three years of military aid from the budget for these purposes from 2014 to 2017.
    During the same period, 15 other countries helped by only $ 50 million. (Half Canadian - 23 million)
    I helped a lot with training, medicine and treatment on their territory.
    Annually 250 million military aid from the US budget. In practice, it is higher. Plus, Ukraine buys from them for its own money. Plus, the EU helps. In general, this aid cost a couple of billion to the allies and will continue to do so.
    In principle, aid parity. The maintenance of CADLO costs the Russian budget the same $ 2 billion a year.
    But if we take into account the Ukrainian military budget, then there is no parity. One side has more resources.
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 9 December 2020 11: 04
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      Quote: Niel-le-Calais
      OU USA is the main supplier of military and humanitarian aid to Ukraine.
      658 million only in the first three years of military aid from the budget for these purposes from 2014 to 2017.
      During the same period, 15 other countries helped by only $ 50 million. (Half Canadian - 23 million)

      What humanitarian aid! Who gives money to the poor? To the beggars on the porch they throw half a half, and even then on patronal feast, and on Sunday, a slice of nigella. The rich give only IN DEBT, and at interest. I have repeatedly repeated the words "Only the USSR gave money for free", and the West echoes Zelensky "The European Union is not an ATM! And you are not at the porch! "
  • Elephant
    Elephant 9 December 2020 10: 15
    -1
    This means that the military LDNR needs to acquire means of detecting and destroying these portable Ukrainian slaves together with their operators.
  • wow
    wow 9 December 2020 10: 22
    0
    And you get the gallows (at best), quartering at worst!
  • iouris
    iouris 9 December 2020 11: 37
    0
    January 31 at 23-50?