The details of the organization of security at the airport, where the "Yom Kippur aircraft" was robbed, became known

The security of the airfield of the Taganrog Aviation Scientific and Technical Complex named after Beriev (TANTK), where the equipment was stolen from the plane of the Yom Kippur Il-80, was carried out by departmental security according to an agreement concluded this spring.

As follows from the data posted on the public procurement portal, TANTK im. Beriev spent 24,1 million rubles on organizing security. The agreement was concluded on April 1, 2020 for a period of one year until March 31, 2021. FSUE UVO of the Ministry of Transport of Russia was chosen as the supplier for "the provision of services for the protection of the transport infrastructure facility of the Taganrog (Yuzhny) aerodrome of PJSC TANTK Beriev", as the only one available on the basis of the decision of the Russian government of 2011.

The sole supplier of the Federal State Unitary Enterprise "UVO of the Ministry of Transport of Russia" was determined on the basis of the Decree of the Government of the Russian Federation No. 42 dated 01.02.2011

- says the documentation.

According to the documents, eight round-the-clock posts should be organized at the airport to guard the facility and prevent damage to the customer's property.

As previously reported, from the airfield TANTK im. Beriev of the Il-80 "Doomsday" aircraft, the attackers removed the radio equipment in the amount of 39 blocks of various communication equipment and five more boards from five of the same dismantled blocks. Presumably, the list of the abducted included radio transmitting and receiving devices, equipment for classifying speech information and encryption devices.

According to law enforcement officers, the so-called "metalworkers" who were somehow familiar with the specifics of work at this airport or who had previously worked at this facility could be involved in the theft. It is also possible that the stolen goods may lead to leakage of top secret information.

Comments

[Alexey RA]

The contract itself with a diagram and a list of posts (pdf format) lies with the State Procurement:
https://zakupki.gov.ru/223/purchase/public/download/download.html?id=61357741

[Bashkirkhan]

But everything is clear, where and how to carry. Taganrog gopota and FSB, score 39: 0 (by the number of blocks). I remember the bright images from the movie "The Armory Baron".

[Temples]

How so. After all, here one "found out" that the fault is the low salary of "hard workers".

Quote: Airdefense

If it turns out that the hard workers and the guards receive 15-20 thousand rubles a month, then all questions about the quality of the guard will be removed.

It turns out the dough has been dumped a lot - 2 million rubles a month.
And it is not the "hard workers" who guard the Beria, but the office determined by the Russian government.

airdefens, it turns out it is not "hard workers" who steal, but quite "qualified" gentlemen who know a lot about at least nonferrous metal. And those who know where this ferrous metal lies unattended and in which plane it is a lot.

[KERMET]

It remains to find out how many of these 2 lyams went to the offices of the management, and how many for the salaries of the guards themselves

[210ox]

And what will it give? A contract has been signed with the employees, they agree to work for a penny. Everything, the question is removed. A union? You're laughing!

[KERMET]

What will it give? The answer to the question to which the comrade hastened to answer above: about the quality of security, when people are forced to work for a penny

[210ox]

Everyone knows about the "quality" of private security structures at enterprises.

[zenion]

And there are such clingy guards - horror. Fidel Castro visited Sverdlovsk in the last millennium. I decided that since a beard suits him, I will also close up the beard. For a couple of days, perhaps a week, I walked through the familiar checkpoint, where they knew me. And once I went through the central one. The pass included my photo, of course without a beard. There it was not pleasant, they compared and detained me. The head guard came, brought a typewriter and told him to cut him. They took off their beard and saw that I am me. But in the shop on the site he had a tsuris. How dare you let go of your beard, you are a turner, and for safety reasons you had no right to do this.

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: 210ox

A union? You're laughing!

And at this time in the "Central Theater of Satire and Humor":
The Rosgvardia revealed theft for 680 million rubles in the procurement of uniforms:

https://yandex.ru/news/story/V_Rosgvardii_vyyavili_khishheniya_na_680_mln_rublej_pri_zakupkakh_obmundirovaniya--452cb54daba123f5981738f0522463fc?from=newswizard&lang=ru&persistent_id=121698780&rubric=incident&stid=zH-ILK_7NwHwE8WPgty7&wan=1&wizard=story

Good video ...

[zenion]

Why did they stick to the guards? The plane remained and it was in place. Whatever on the plane does not interest them, they conduct external security. Even if the leader was stolen and led tied up through the post, they have no right to detain them to a guarded place, it has nothing in common. During his entire service, he was on guard once. At the same time, they received exhaustive instructions not to allow anyone to approach the aircraft and not allow anyone to enter the aircraft. Shoot but so as not to damage the equipment in the parking lot. This must be imagined, he was on the clock twice for two hours, but no scum approached until the guard was removed. Apparently worried that we would damage the equipment when we shoot and kill.

[Rostislav]

And how does salary affect the quality of work? The slogan "As you pay me, so I work" is the slogan of the lazy and mediocre. I dare say so, more than 40 years in production.
Give Pupkin a million, and he will overtake Schumacher? And Schumacher for 15 thousand wooden pillars will start knocking down at turns?
People do not work as they are paid, but as dad and mum brought up, and as they can. So it is not necessary to shift from a sick head to a healthy one. They screwed up.

[Roman070280]

Give Pupkin a million and he'll overtake Schumacher?

Give Schumacher a million - and he will overfulfill Pupkin's plan on the machine ??
Found someone to cite as an example ..))

People do not work the way they are paid, but how dad and mom brought up

Exactly .. Kokorin and Mamaev will not let you lie ..))

[air defense]

Affects the quality of employees who will go to work for you and how easy they can be "bribed", recruited, how negligent they themselves will be about their duties.

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: Rostislav

I dare say so, more than 40 years in production.

To dare say this, you need to add:
"As (position according to the staffing table)"

Quote: Rostislav

People do not work the way they are paid, but how dad and mom brought up, and in the way they can.

This formula was valid for socialist production. I saw, I worked, I know. Nobody will "tear the navel" for thanks to "Uncle". Therefore, do not assume that there are dropouts or "servilists" on the site.

[Rostislav]

To dare say this, you need to add:
"As (position according to the staffing table)"

I add:
- 6 years in construction brigades and on shabashki, 2 years "hammer" drove, then he drove the brigades, mastered 8 construction specialties;
- Systems engineer of the 1st category, Research Institute of Computer Science;
- after the collapse of the Union since 1992, several of its production enterprises, 20-60 people. Metal and woodworking, - foreman, production manager, deputy. director, director.

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: Rostislav

production manager, deputy. director, director.

That's enough, master guide.

[Rostislav]

You shouldn't be ironic. Even now I can stand behind a planer or peeling machine, this is equipment for the production of sliced ​​and peeled veneer.
To manage production when a dozen different machines are noisy in the shop behind the wall, is it to drive with your hands? You would call a technologist that way, so he certainly does not bother with iron himself, you know ours.

[Torins]

In production, if you start making good money, then a technologist will immediately come, stand a shift with a stopwatch and cut the price. A person who can make 500 parts per shift for 2000 rubles will never make 700 parts, because he will still be paid the same 2000 rubles. If the employer is not interested in encouraging feats of labor, then there will be no feats.

[Michael67]

Look in the wrong direction, KERMET. Blocks and boards were removed by order. I'm sure. They bought someone for 33 pieces of silver. I hope very much that the reptiles will have time to catch before the transfer of "OO importance" of blocks and fees for the hill. This is a state matter. Even if the hardware is outdated. There have already been examples with "friend or foe" blocks. Remember the captain Belenko? This is not a joke.

[Alex777]

I hope very much that the reptiles will have time to catch before the transfer of "OO importance" of blocks and fees for the hill.

The matter is of such importance that I'm afraid it's too late to "drink Borjomi".
Although hope dies last ...

[kig]

Belenko presented the villains with a functioning combat aircraft. This one arrived for repairs, and, in theory, all the secret from him should have been removed.

[Xscorpion]

Yes, and here it is. The departmental security does not strain, they work a day / three. And 2 lamas is just the monthly salary of the team, if you include the chief and the deputy. By the way, the operatives in the team get more than the team leader, since there is a lot various allowances. And as if the guys work normally, so basically all the former retirees of the Ministry of Internal Affairs and the Ministry of Defense, as it were, the majority are quite young 35-45 years old, perfectly trained, and in fact have an income of 50+ per month (I judge by my region, since I myself am a military pensioner and work in the VOKhR, this is in fact a week of work per month.) There is more of a problem with powers, since according to the Law on Departmental Security and Government decrees, departmental security officers are not entitled to inspect persons who have permanent passes for the territory of the object, so the rat was inside the enterprise and used its official powers, and, accordingly, it was not a problem to cook up a transport pass to take out the property.

[Normal ok]

Quote: Temples

It turns out the dough has been dumped a lot - 2 million rubles a month.
And it is not the "hard workers" who guard the Beria, but the office determined by the Russian government.

I do not want to go into the essence of the dispute over the essence of theft from an airplane. But, just personal experience: the office gets sane money, the performers get a penny. I have seen it more than once.

[O. Bender]

Wow, the contract is for millions, and the salary is penny. We swam.

[Nosgoth]

This does not in any way save you from liability for negligence. If you agreed to work for a penny (as many here claim, though not knowing a single amount, but simply raising a guess to the rank of true), then work and answer.

[O. Bender]

Just a small salary plays an essential role, since such conditions are generally agreed upon by the age group for ..., served a day and that's it.

[keeper03]

In fact - there is no protection, but there is a cut of the dough with theft and sabotage of the state !!! Who is in charge ?! Moscow! The customer, as always, is hiding behind his back.

[DED_peer_DED]

"Where aviation begins, order ends there ..."

(c) V. M. Petlyakov

[stalki]

it turns out that it is not "hard workers" who steal, but quite "qualified" gentlemen who know a lot about at least non-ferrous metal. And those who know where this non-ferrous metal lies unattended and in which plane there is a lot of it.

Something doubts gnaw about non-ferrous metal, maybe for a diversion. But the equipment for encryption is needed by someone more serious. God forbid if it was just stolen for scrap.

[hohkn]

Quote: Temples

And it is not the "hard workers" who guard the Beria, but the office determined by the Russian government.

It looks like they decided to save. Particularly important objects should be guarded by the non-departmental security of the Russian Guard, and here they decided to hire the non-departmental security of the Ministry of Transport. Well, they kept it ...

[Paladin22]

This is in the cities, but here the Ministry of Transport's object and security are their own and they don't need any guards ... they don't need money, and they like to distribute money themselves)

[hohkn]

And they also write the law for themselves ... There is a list of objects that should be guarded by the non-departmental guard of the Russian Guard, and not by the VOKhR. The non-departmental security of the Ministry of Transport is the same VOKHR, whatever you call it.

[zenion]

Maybe they forgot to sprinkle holy water on the guards when they interceded on the guards?

[fruc]

According to law enforcement officers, the so-called "metalworkers" who were somehow familiar with the specifics of work at this airport or who had previously worked at this facility could be involved in the theft. It is also possible that the stolen goods may lead to leakage of top secret information.

What the hell are "metalheads" !!! It is necessary to proceed from the fact that the blocks are possibly (or are being transported to the adjacent territory of Ukraine) are being studied at the Pentagon. Now let the leadership of "VO Ministry of Transport" try to explain how the protection was carried out and how it was assumed that the guarded area with aircraft equipment turned into a walk-through yard.

[Paladin22]

I agree! It's one thing to remove it, and then you still have to take it out ... Or it could be so that they took it out with material passes, which are then simply thrown away. Then the security has nothing to do with it. And about the metalworkers, bullshit.

[air defense]

So don't be confused, dumped the dough of the Federal State Unitary Enterprise UVO of the Ministry of Transport of Russia, and how much the guards are paid there is another question, judging by their vacancies in St. Petersburg and Moscow

https://hh.ru/employer/2397002?customDomain=1
such as

Departmental security guard
Unitary Enterprise FSUE UVO of the Ministry of Transport of Russia, December 8
from 18 720 to 23 400 rubles.
St. Petersburg

I doubt that they pay more in Taganrog.

[fruc]

But it was not the wheels of the plane or the tubes of the fuel system that were stolen, but secret communication units!

[dedusik]

And how is it known that the "secret" blocks are most likely a throw of information, tk. the investigation is conducted by the Ministry of Internal Affairs, not the FSB, according to Article 215.4.2 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation

Dmitry Andreyanov, a former engineer for the technical operation of flying ships, says that the source who told reporters about the theft of 39 radio stations was most likely mistaken, and it is about electronic components. Andreyanov also notes that the phrase "opening the cargo hatch" is surprising for people familiar with the IL-80 device.
- Such a hatch cannot be opened with a crowbar or crowbar - the maximum will be able to break the casing, then the so-called. "Power set" of the hatch, and through it there is no way to break through. To get inside, the hatch must be opened, and all its drives are electro-hydraulic. This means that the aircraft must be powered up, get into the cockpit, and find the corresponding toggle switches on the flight engineer's console. https://novayagazeta.ru/articles/2020/12/08/88276-vskrytie-sudnogo-dnya

[zenion]

These were not secret communication blocks. In addition, they were not on the plane, but in a closet outside the enterprise. These were not blocks at all. And maybe everything was stolen, even earlier, and this is an imitation of theft. The guards at night were probably asked how to get to the library and they thought a lot, or is it not from a movie. And one even said - Granny, give me a smoke!

[asher]

How are you flattering about any FSUE Security or FSE Vokhrana ZhDT, which is also in the Ministry of Transport of the Russian Federation. These are typical private shops, although they have the word "state" in the name. At the helm are mainly retired military and police officers. And the workers really get 15-20 thousand rubles. With that kind of money they go to work only out of great bezishodnost. By the way, the workers of aircraft-building and repair factories overtook them a little.

[Nychego]

Quote: Bashkirkhan

Taganrog gopota and FSB, score 39: 0

It's not Kansk guys for chatting in VK, PVD (weekend hikes) and packing a game in Minecraft. It’s there at the FSB with the boys 3: 0.

[fruc]

Are you sure that the theft was organized by the Taganrog (or Rostov) gopota. Doubtful and suspicious.

[ltc35]

The consequences can be disastrous. For this article shines - treason.

[Clear]

Quote: ltc35

The consequences can be disastrous. For this article shines - treason.

Yeah. How not to remember an analogy

The following dialogue takes place between Ruchechnik and Zheglov:
- "Do you sew a decree seven or eight, chief?" - asks Ruchechnik.
And Zheglov answers:
- “Today you have had an absolutely awful mistake, and the point is not even that we caught you today ... You took the thing from the wife of an English diplomat.

[Blanket]

Yes, yes, the analogy of catching pickpockets on Nevsky Prospekt ten years ago: as soon as an influential foreigner is robbed, the thieves are caught instantly, because all the rights and roles were assigned between those "who" and "who" crossed the line, it is his own fault)))
I myself served in the 90s in Rzhev and ran into guys who worked at an aircraft repair shop during the day, and visited a military airfield at night, for contacts on those same boards. Narcos ... And yes, I did not keep silent about them, but I had to change my place of service ...

[Pereira]

What treason? Great CIA work. How they laugh at us now!

[The black]

There they are already being detained and using force. We are waiting for sanctions against Pashinyan and support of the people of Armenia from the West

[orionvitt]

Quote: ltc35

The consequences can be disastrous

I think they will find it. When you really need it, they can work very well. Moreover, the resonance in the case was not weak.

[Aag]

"... they can work very well ..."
Already worked!. From head to toe ... worked!
It remains to be hoped that this is a planned leak, and not a bottom breakout.
In general, it looks like some kind of sur! In the morning I read on the next branch, - the whole day was like a bad dream. I remember that when I was in Starley on the DB I dreamed that my launcher ("Poplar") was stolen. Similar sensations ...
... The following shocks:
1. The very fact of what happened.
2. The emergence of information about what happened in the media.
3. Appeal of responsible persons to the POLICE.
4. Appearance of attorney's comments in the media.
For all 4 points, cases must be opened!
With the 5th item, you can add some comments on the adjacent and this thread, -type, what a funny crap happened.
OPA! With a capital letter "zh". Forgive my French ... In due time, and personnel decisions followed, and from the award someone, but would have shot himself.
And here we are, from sofas, we are catching AUG, we are launching UAVs in swarms, SSBNs are improving ...
Not sad anymore, alarming.

[Aag]

For completeness of the surrealism of the picture, it remains to wait for the message that the kidnappers have been fined for violating the glove-mask regime! (It was reported that fingerprints were found).
Theater of the absurd!

[t-34 marina]

A shameful shame, why can't you use foul language ?????

[Boris ⁣ Shaver]

Quote: orionvitt

When you need it badly, they can work very well.

I doubt it for a long time

[Souchastnik]

I doubt it for a long time

The FSB is not the KGB. It has long been recruited according to other criteria.

[Boris ⁣ Shaver]

Quote: Souchastnik

are recruited by other criteria.

This fact was not bad "lit up" in that case with a cortege of helics at the prom. It was very revealing, in my opinion.

[alexmach]

I think they will find it. When you really need it, they can work very well. Moreover, the resonance in the case was not weak.

Let's see. If the "metalists" really dragged them - they will not go to the fortuneteller. But if suddenly they do not find it, then "oh".

[Michael67]

Yeah. Tomorrow they will tell you on TV that the metalworkers have been found, the metalworkers repented, shed tears and asked to send telegrams on their behalf to families in their homeland in Haifa. YES YES! NOBODY WILL TELL US ANYTHING! FOR NOT ,, Y! Even the "ancient Romans" said: "We do not know. And we will not know."

[alexmach]

Following this logic, the incident, in principle, could not be reported at all. But for some reason they told me.

[Michael67]

What the hell is resonance !? This is a state matter! Option "Veil" or "Curtain" or "Full Arctic Fox". Call it whatever you want. All protection to Benin's mother in development until clarification. There have already been similar blocks in our history. And it cost the USSR many fucking people. Someone at the base site snapped a bread slicer, and someone skirted the loot. Believe me, there are NO other options! I am sure that ahead of the blocks is money for the Jews.

[Nikolay Ivanov_5]

Maybe the Ukrainians in Russia managed to pull off a special operation ???

[210ox]

Well, if the FSO is shooting right in the Kremlin, then what really. It looks like the fate of the country that everyone became responsible before the lantern.

[Vladimir247]

35
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Treason to the Motherland ...
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Why did it happen? They will let go, like Vasilyeva. Well, they will throw you a new article on the forum, how quickly the thief was caught ...
And what has flowed under the bridge, well, well ... it is necessary to give the NATO specialists a job too ...

[Vol4ara]

Well, there is even nothing to say. It's good at least they didn't steal Putin's pussies from his pants, although I would put a guard, after such a thing

[pereselenec]

Quote: Vol4ara

Well, there is even nothing to say. It's good at least they didn't steal Putin's pussies from his pants, although I would put a guard, after such a thing

I hope they haven't stolen at least a suitcase with an atomic button?

[210ox]

In light of recent events, they did not steal, but reset to zero.

[t-34 marina]

The most awesome comment!

[Terenin]

details of the organization of security at the airport, where the "Doomsday plane" was robbed

Incorrect wording .
If

robbed the "doomsday plane

then there is no

organization

and no

airfield security

[Imobile]

This is one of the binding contracts. This is how we concluded contracts for garbage disposal, you go to the office, which was determined by the mayor's office and pay the money. It also says that they often come, when to wash what and how to take mercury lamps (and this is strictly, up to responsibility), in fact, I have never seen in 10 years. They hired their own janitors.

[Thrifty]

Spies all over the world are roaring like a beluga, such a robbery operation was carried out without them! The annals of the world espionage case will include "Taganrog jamb" !!!

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

Quote: Thrifty

Spies all over the world are roaring like a beluga, such a robbery operation was carried out without them! The annals of the world espionage case will include "Taganrog jamb" !!!

Spies around the world are fighting for access to non-ferrous metal buying points.

[Terenin]

Last info on the topic.

“According to the employee, he noticed a suspicious person at the decommissioned Be-12 models. The technician sounded the alarm and called the guard. In the conversation, the unknown explained that he was a radio operator and came to the planes with the permission of the chief, ”a source familiar with the situation told 5-tv.ru.

[donavi49]

They dumped their entire secret police stupidly at the tender

Here - https://zakupki.gov.ru/223/purchase/public/download/download.html?id=61357741

at the very end, we look at the inventory of each post, the location of the cameras, the general scheme and the map of detours

local James Bodnam didn't even have to work, opening it on their own.

[Alexey RA]

Quote: donavi49

at the very end, we look at the inventory of each post, the location of the cameras, the general scheme and the map of detours

So the TK for public procurement is made either by "specialists of the tender department" (who buy everything, from pens to services - and therefore do not cut it at all in specific topics and bring into the TK that God will put to heart), or one of the future participants in the competition (then the TK was drawn up competently, but for a specific organization).
In this case, the campaign was the first option.
The question is - where did the First Section look?

[La Peruse]

This is called outsourcing.

[faiver]

in Russian it is called money laundering from the budget ...

[common man]

Quote: faiver

in Russian it is called money laundering from the budget ...

Well no. This reverberated with all the idiocy of 44-fz. With its auctions, technical assignments and showdowns with anti-monopoly authorities. But no one will accuse the guys from Beriev of corruption.
From the same series, when information about the composition of weapons and equipment of the latest technology is gleaned from the state procurement website (finds for spies).

[faiver]

yes what problems, one hell of money laundering from the budget ...

[mmaxx]

Who cares? Procurement documentation must be drawn up in maximum detail. The money is allocated for this. And the supplier must comply with these conditions.
Such is the fight against corruption.

[Lipchanin]

Quote: donavi49

local James Bodnam didn't even have to work, opening it on their own.

It's just a nightmare.
On trial of all quiet "guards"

[fa2998]

Quote: Lipchanin

On trial of all quiet "guards"

Such "things" should be guarded by the FSB. This is not an official, but worse than an ICBM.

[Old tanker]

Practice shows that the most effective security is your own enterprise. She has a lot of leverage by the management of the enterprise. So the incentive to guard well is fear. All security guards from the outside are afraid only of rare checks by their leadership, and not by the leadership of the protected object, to which they are not subordinate

[Aag]

Practice shows (long ago processed, now, apparently not having time for the next "breakthrough") that the security system begins with organizational measures (limiting the circle of admitted persons, checking admitted persons, personal responsibility, accounting of site visits, technical equipment and support, multistage external perimeter , workshop, facility, and much, much more.)
... Yes, in the XNUMXs, the base of the distillery was heavily guarded! A policeman, two factory guards (departmental security), a shooter VOKHR. At night-plus a shooter and a shooter-dog handler VOKHR ...- cross responsibility.

[Xnumx vis]

Quote: AAG

shooter-dog handler VOKHR ...-

Instead of these millions spent on rotozei, a dozen Caucasian shepherd dogs were better allowed on the perimeter. You can't buy these and don't cheat!

[meandr51]

But you can put to sleep or shoot with a small car with a jammer.

[Xnumx vis]

Quote: meandr51

But you can put to sleep or shoot with a small car with a jammer.

guard and put to sleep do not sleep without hind legs! And to shoot the guards is generally a trifling matter! Also take away the weapon.

[Aag]

Quote: 30 vis

Quote: AAG

shooter-dog handler VOKHR ...-

Instead of these millions spent on rotozei, a dozen Caucasian shepherd dogs were better allowed on the perimeter. You can't buy these and don't cheat!

As a dog handler: both "buy" and cheat is possible. Security should be comprehensive and multi-level.
Well, and without the "spent" millions, we seem to be nowhere. To remember, the customer for each dog monthly transferred to the VOKhR department ten times the salary of the shooter. The dogs were always hungry, to the point of exhaustion, in the service plan- Whenever possible, he interceded with his dog.

[Xnumx vis]

Quote: AAG

I remember that the customer for each dog on a monthly basis transferred to the VOKhR department the sums ten times higher than the shooter's salary. The dogs were always hungry, even to the point of exhaustion, in the service plan - none.

Something you exaggerated !! Salary of the shooter VOKHR with all surcharges and bonuses 22-25 thousand rubles (protection of weapons and especially important objects) 250 thousand rubles for a dog ???? You whistled slightly! A sadistic attitude towards service dogs is a matter of the conscience of your VOKHR superiors. Dogs, unlike people, do not know how to write complaints. I know about the content of the lyrics. dogs spend every penny! This is a full-time veterinarian and normal feeding.

[Aag]

Quote: 30 vis

Quote: AAG

I remember that the customer for each dog on a monthly basis transferred to the VOKhR department the sums ten times higher than the shooter's salary. The dogs were always hungry, even to the point of exhaustion, in the service plan - none.

Something you exaggerated !! Salary of the shooter VOKHR with all surcharges and bonuses 22-25 thousand rubles (protection of weapons and especially important objects) 250 thousand rubles for a dog ???? You whistled slightly! A sadistic attitude towards service dogs is a matter of the conscience of your VOKHR superiors. Dogs, unlike people, do not know how to write complaints. I know about the content of the lyrics. dogs spend every penny! This is a full-time veterinarian and normal feeding.

It is written about the year 2000 ... Then there was a "nursery" at the VOKhR department. That year, or the next, it ended. There were ten aviaries left, and one warrant officer for the entire household. The dogs, of course, did not write a report. But the warrant officer tried. That's why he quit ...
EMNIP: the salary of the shooter was about 10t.r.was transferred for dogs about 90t.r.So, if he whistled, then quite a bit, in contrast to the management of the department.
In the ATC nursery, the situation was much better, but it was not KS, but mainly SRS.
At the neighboring sites, dogs (Caucasians, Central Asians) from a private kennel stood at checkpoints. Well, as they stood, they slept away)). They began to "work" in the morning, before the arrival of the car that took them.

[Xnumx vis]

In the Black Sea Fleet in a mine-torpedo arsenal.

[210ox]

His own, and steals. At one time, light bulbs (still energy-saving) began to twist out. The guards turned the bags inside out, but it turned out they were dragged by those who guarded.

[Alexey RA]

Quote: 210ox

The guards turned the bags inside out, but it turned out they were dragged by those who guarded.

What you guard is what you have. You protect nothing, you have nothing. No wonder they say: "All to the protection of the property of the people."

© M. Zhvanetsky

[Clear]

Quote: fa2998

Quote: Lipchanin

On trial of all quiet "guards"

Such "things" should be guarded by the FSB. This is not an official, but worse than an ICBM.

Then the FSO, the FSB has no security function. Another thing is how to monitor the organization of the protection of secure facilities, yes.

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Clear

Another thing is how to monitor the organization of the protection of secure facilities, yes.

I don’t know how it is now, but earlier there were first departments at all sensitive facilities. The KGB, so they watched everything. Up to protection

[Terenin]

Quote: Lipchanin

Quote: Clear

Another thing is how to monitor the organization of the protection of secure facilities, yes.

I don’t know how it is now, but earlier there were first departments at all sensitive facilities. The KGB, so they watched everything. Up to protection

Sergei like the first department of the KGB, is it foreign intelligence? If you're talking about them.

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Terenin

like the first department of the KGB, is it foreign intelligence?

At sensitive sites, in army units, the first departments were like counter-intelligence.
We have such a regime shop, before you are allowed into the shop, the first department checks for 2 weeks.
Although I may be wrong with the department number. But it seems like the first

[Camel]

The first department is internal security, the First Main Directorate (well, it was like that before) is intelligence. The departments remained, but I don't know about the PSU.

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Camel

The first department is internal security, the First Main Directorate (well, it was like that before) is intelligence. The departments remained, but I don't know about the PSU.

Well, then the memory did not disappoint.
Although I got hot with counterintelligence)
I will never forget the interrogation in the 1st section when I served in the SA

[Camel]

Do not worry! :) Internal security is counterintelligence, well, a little more

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Camel

Internal security is counterintelligence

Although yes. The meaning is this

[Doliva63]

In the "army units" there were never any departments, if anything. And in civilian enterprises, where this was required, yes, there was a department for ensuring the secrecy regime, which was often called the "first" among the people.

[Old tanker]

In the units were not, but with the connections were and are. On the part of the operative. Although rare, there are units that have departments (the military counterintelligence of the FSB, out of habit they are called "special", and operas are "special officers"). And at the military factories the first department is still there, the task is to maintain the secrecy regime and internal security.

[Doliva63]

Quote: Old Tanker

In the units were not, but with the connections were and are. On the part of the operative. Although rare, there are units that have departments (the military counterintelligence of the FSB, out of habit they are called "special", and operas are "special officers"). And at the military factories the first department is still there, the task is to maintain the secrecy regime and internal security.

Thanks for the tip, colleague , but I will clarify: the departments were not "attached", but in the districts and fleets, but in the Groups of Forces and the Strategic Missile Forces - in the armies.

[Old tanker]

There was a department both with our division, and then with our brigade (thanks for the Serdyukov reform. With the districts and fleets, the management, not the departments.

[Doliva63]

Quote: Old Tanker

There was a department both with our division, and then with our brigade (thanks for the Serdyukov reform. With the districts and fleets, the management, not the departments.

Well, glory be to Allah, I didn't see it. So which one of us is an old tanker? I have a friend who served a little longer and quit just from the OO in those very times, so I believe you. I wrote as it was in the "golden years".

[Old tanker]

6. The system of security organs in the troops includes:

Directorate of Military Counterintelligence (Directorate 3) of the Federal Security Service of the Russian Federation (hereinafter referred to as Directorate 3);

directorates and departments of the Federal Security Service of the Russian Federation for military districts and fleets, the Air Force and Air Defense District, the troops of the National Guard of the Russian Federation, groups of forces, centrally subordinated associations (hereinafter referred to as the departments and departments of the Federal Security Service of the Russian Federation for operational strategic and operational formations);

departments of the Federal Security Service of the Russian Federation for associations, formations, military units, garrisons, military educational institutions of vocational education, organizations of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, other troops, military formations and bodies (hereinafter referred to as departments of the Federal Security Service of the Russian Federation for associations, formations, military units and organizations).

Decree of the President of the Russian Federation of February 7, 2000 N 318 "On approval of the Regulations on the directorates (departments) of the Federal Security Service of the Russian Federation in the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, other troops, military formations and bodies (security bodies in the troops)" (with amendments and additions )

[Doliva63]

Quote: Old Tanker

6. The system of security organs in the troops includes:

Directorate of Military Counterintelligence (Directorate 3) of the Federal Security Service of the Russian Federation (hereinafter referred to as Directorate 3);

directorates and departments of the Federal Security Service of the Russian Federation for military districts and fleets, the Air Force and Air Defense District, the troops of the National Guard of the Russian Federation, groups of forces, centrally subordinated associations (hereinafter referred to as the departments and departments of the Federal Security Service of the Russian Federation for operational strategic and operational formations);

departments of the Federal Security Service of the Russian Federation for associations, formations, military units, garrisons, military educational institutions of vocational education, organizations of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, other troops, military formations and bodies (hereinafter referred to as departments of the Federal Security Service of the Russian Federation for associations, formations, military units and organizations).

Decree of the President of the Russian Federation of February 7, 2000 N 318 "On approval of the Regulations on the directorates (departments) of the Federal Security Service of the Russian Federation in the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, other troops, military formations and bodies (security bodies in the troops)" (with amendments and additions )

Man, why do I need all this? I am a military man from a military family, where even my grandmother in the Kotovsky brigade was not an ordinary soldier. I know the structure of the KGB / FSB and special departments - earlier in detail, now superficially. At home, they were always treated negatively, but tolerantly. As for the police, approximately. When necessary, we helped them; when needed, they helped us. But they didn't love each other. Forced symbiosis, so to speak. All tasks in particular are different.

[Old tanker]

Well, that expanded their veteran horizons.

[Doliva63]

Quote: Old Tanker

Well, that expanded their veteran horizons.

Thanks, buddy!

[Alf]

Quote: Lipchanin

Quote: donavi49

local James Bodnam didn't even have to work, opening it on their own.

It's just a nightmare.
On trial of all quiet "guards"

It remains to remove the tires from Putin's Aurus, and the battery ...

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Alf

It remains to remove the tires from Putin's Aurus, and the battery ...

I won’t be surprised

[Alf]

Quote: Lipchanin

Quote: Alf

It remains to remove the tires from Putin's Aurus, and the battery ...

I won’t be surprised

Especially if later I see them on Avito with a horse price tag and a postscript, removed from ...

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Alf

Especially if I later see them on Avito

Well, this is unlikely, but somewhere on the "black" spare parts market ...

[Alf]

Quote: Lipchanin

Quote: Alf

Especially if I later see them on Avito

Well, this is unlikely, but somewhere on the "black" spare parts market ...

Are you sure of this, knowing modern Russians who do not care? I'm not very ...

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Alf

Are you sure of this, knowing modern Russians who do not care?

Are you sure they know what Avito is?

[Alf]

Quote: Lipchanin

Quote: Alf

Are you sure of this, knowing modern Russians who do not care?

Are you sure they know what Avito is?

Absolutely sure. Therefore, how often does the question arise - do we throw out this junk or are we trying to sell it on Avito? And they often do.

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Alf

Absolutely sure

Yes, I was joking)

[Alf]

Quote: Lipchanin

Quote: Alf

Absolutely sure

Yes, I was joking)

I'm not talking about junk. He pushed as much himself, yes, purely symbolically, for beer or large ice cream, but sold.

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Alf

How much he shoved

I did not sell on Avito. Yulia had a case

[Alf]

Quote: Lipchanin

Quote: Alf

How much he shoved

I did not sell on Avito. Yulia had a case

One hell. Avito is more promoted, and there are more people rubbing there.
If the land from the UFO landing site is being sold ...

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Alf

and there are more people rubbing.

I know, but Yula is somehow more familiar to me ...

[Clear]

Quote: Alf

Quote: Lipchanin

Quote: donavi49

local James Bodnam didn't even have to work, opening it on their own.

It's just a nightmare.
On trial of all quiet "guards"

It remains to remove the tires from Putin's Aurus, and the battery ...

And to them, to sell, to the government garage.

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Clear

And to them, to sell, to the government garage.

Abruptly

[Alf]

Quote: Clear

Quote: Alf

Quote: Lipchanin

Quote: donavi49

local James Bodnam didn't even have to work, opening it on their own.

It's just a nightmare.
On trial of all quiet "guards"

It remains to remove the tires from Putin's Aurus, and the battery ...

And to them, to sell, to the government garage.

With broken numbers. Or you don't need to interrupt.

[pereselenec]

Quote: Lipchanin

It's just a nightmare.
On trial of all quiet "guards"

Security guards, how to drink to give a firm of some local adherents. Maximum, the switchman will be jailed.

[Lipchanin]

Quote: pereselenec

Security guards, how to drink to give a firm of some local adherents.

Below there is a post in which everything is described

[Alf]

Quote: pereselenec

Maximum, the switchman will be jailed.

The guard of 80-year-old Petrovich with a 15-year-old Zhuchka.
"And you will be guilty!
Why me ?
Because this is what the law of the Empire says - someone must be to blame. ”(I don’t remember where the quote came from).

[Boris ⁣ Shaver]

Quote: donavi49

local James Bodnam

Or maybe not local

[Clear]

Quote: Boris ⁣ Shaver

Quote: donavi49

local James Bodnam

Or maybe not local

Boris is 100% version!
The theft was committed either by our own people or by others. There is no third.

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Clear

No middle ground.

Given. Neutrals

[Terenin]

Quote: Lipchanin

Quote: Clear

No middle ground.

Given. Neutrals

It may be local who stole, but the brains are stolen, obviously MI 6.

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Terenin

but brains are stealing, clearly MI 6.

Why not the CIA or the Mossad?

[Terenin]

Quote: Lipchanin

Quote: Terenin

but brains are stealing, clearly MI 6.

Why not the CIA or the Mossad?

Maybe they are, it's me, based on the fact that Zelensky was at MI 6 for the last time.

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Terenin

Zelensky was at MI 6 for the last time.

And what does this prezikloun have to do with it?

[Terenin]

Quote: Lipchanin

Quote: Terenin

Zelensky was at MI 6 for the last time.

And what does this prezikloun have to do with it?

Yes, Taganrog, suspiciously close ...

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Terenin

Yes, Taganrog, suspiciously close ...

To England?

[Terenin]

Quote: Lipchanin

Quote: Terenin

Yes, Taganrog, suspiciously close ...

To England?

Yes, to the possessions of the Anglo-Saxons

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Terenin

Yes, to the possessions of the Anglo-Saxons

Got it. Zelenkin traveled to MI-6 to receive instructions on how to connect blocks from an airplane in Taganrog.
An interesting version ....

[Aag]

Quote: Lipchanin

Quote: Terenin

Yes, to the possessions of the Anglo-Saxons

Got it. Zelenkin traveled to MI-6 to receive instructions on how to connect blocks from an airplane in Taganrog.
An interesting version ....

Let's wait for the joke from the ex-KVN-schik: "This is for the toilet bowls!" From boats).

[halpat]

Quote: donavi49

They dumped their entire secret police stupidly at the tender

Here - https://zakupki.gov.ru/223/purchase/public/download/download.html?id=61357741

at the very end, we look at the inventory of each post, the location of the cameras, the general scheme and the map of detours

local James Bodnam didn't even have to work, opening it on their own.

It was NOT local James Bonds that monitored, hired local criminals, and then everything went like clockwork ... and the direct performers will not tell anyone, even if they or their parts are found.

[kit88]

It's just that a person from the street will not be able to steal blocks from an airplane. You need to know which hatches to open, you need to be able to open these hatches, you need to be able to dismantle the blocks (where to unscrew which lamb, where to turn which locking screw, where to simply push the handles ...). Well, they didn't pick them out with a crowbar!
Here it was not without "friends".

[Old tanker]

And why did you decide that it was not a crowbar? Principle: break, smash take more, and nobody canceled that we will figure it out.

[kit88]

There is a lot of noise. The guards will come running quickly.

[interceptor58]

Break, crush will not work. Such an aircraft stands under an alarm against penetration inside, a radio channel is used, then to the security console. If you turn off the radio channel, then it will be immediately visible and it is clearly not "metalheads". It takes time to remove how many blocks. Maybe they were stolen earlier, not at one time, and then brought under an alleged gross theft.

[Lech from Android.]

... I got a whole complex of emotions reading this document in the public domain ... I haven't seen such sloppiness for a long time.

[svp67]

Quote: donavi49

They dumped their entire secret police stupidly at the tender

Yeah ... And on the other side of Mariupol ... As if the MTR of Ukraine did not hurry up. It was not possible to obtain a "witness" for The Hague, so the encryption equipment for the "big white master" in the "beak" will be brought

[stas Sv]

I wonder where the "almost Europeans" got the technical documentation for the plane? Could you tell???

[svp67]

Quote: Stas Sv

I wonder where the "almost Europeans" got the technical documentation for the plane?

But when was this plane created?
And do you think that they have no way to get such documents?

The first flight on the Il-80 aircraft was made on May 29, 1985

[stas Sv]

Very doubtful ...

[crocodile25]

Shouldn't this kind of equipment be guarded by the FSO, FSB?

[figwam]

So there probably should be cameras.

[Alf]

Quote: figvam

So there probably should be cameras.

The cameras were also taken away ...

[VLV]

Bullpen who)

[iouris]

".... the airliner ran along the airfield, as if by fate ..."
That's all there was.

[Victor_B]

It seems to me that the metalworkers would get into the presidential plane.

[apro]

Quote: Victor_B

It seems to me that the metalworkers would get into the presidential plane.

And you tell them that there are gold-containing microcircuits. And write the indices ... as in Ukrainka in the 90s ... the cars were bombed.

[Virus-free crown]

I didn't understand some jokes of humor
Isn’t the FSB and the FSO supposed to guard the plane of "doomsday" ?!
That is, any thief can come in and rob the country's most important plane ?!

THIS IS WHAT BABLA SAW THAT SO ... And we are surprised that not all of Russia has been stolen yet ...

This is how (God forbid, of course) what will happen ... Putin will come to save us all ... and there will be nothing ...

everything is already stolen ...

[Klingon]

Well, this is generally a paragraph! how could it be so goofy, because these are not just leaked friend or foe codes as after the hijacking of the MiG-25, this is something cooler. And the metalheads, are they guys from Mi-6 or?

[pmkemcity]

Quote: Klingon

And the metalheads, are they guys from Mi-6 or?

From Mi-6 "Mitalists".

[Boris ⁣ Shaver]

stolen can lead to leakage of top secret information

Presumably, the list of the abducted included radio transmitting and receiving devices, equipment for classifying speech information and encryption devices.

The blockheads (they are also Foolovites) from Saltykov-Shchedrin and their amazing adventures in the 21st century.

[Observer2014]

Quote: Boris ⁣ Shaver

stolen can lead to leakage of top secret information

Presumably, the list of the abducted included radio transmitting and receiving devices, equipment for classifying speech information and encryption devices.

The blockheads (they are also Foolovites) from Saltykov-Shchedrin and their amazing adventures in the 21st century.

Of course. Of course. By all means the dearest. But here is a simple thing. I wanted to eat. And mind-boggling examples of kickbacks of the stupefied from power. PEOPLE NEED TO PAY MLIN WAGE and EATING YOURSELF within reason !!!! There is no example for bespridel. Get exhaust.

[Boris ⁣ Shaver]

Quote: Observer2014

But this is a simple thing.

So I'm not only and not so much about that chop. Those holoaotyapi not only shone with personal qualities, but also found a prince for themselves, if you remember. And he sent them city governors just as brilliant. In general, the entire vertical is excellent - from top to bottom. According to Saltykov-Shchedrin.

[Observer2014]

I remember one frame from the film "Confrontation". Where the "pistol moth" jumped out onto the bridge. Stop. All back! Attack! They dropped him with his head down from the bridge. So here too. What does our power want from ordinary people? Having made churches with hucksters priests (a separate song) prostrate themselves? Yeah, now ..

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

Quote: Observer2014

What does our powerful want from ordinary people? Churches having priests with hucksters (a separate song) to prostrate themselves?

It is here that the hucksters-priests will revive, they will declare that the reason is not sprinkling ...
and in the absence of an in-plane church with a staff of priests.

[Aag]

Quote: DymOk_v_dYmke

Quote: Observer2014

What does our powerful want from ordinary people? Churches having priests with hucksters (a separate song) to prostrate themselves?

It is here that the hucksters-priests will revive, they will declare that the reason is not sprinkling ...
and in the absence of an in-plane church with a staff of priests.

Well, yes. Icons are not included in the list of missing "things" ...

[Boris ⁣ Shaver]

Quote: Observer2014

Churches with

30 years have passed, and have not even rebuilt all the churches that were destroyed in their time. At the same time, construction in 90% of cases is funded by believers.
Live in a country and don't know anything about it? How does it feel?

[Baloo]

"Intruders"? metalheads? 39 blocks?

[tralflot1832]

Taganrog, where it is, is just a stone's throw from the ukroverrmacht. Lohanulis so lohanulis. Wait, everyone involved in this scandal will fly their heads!

[Narak-zempo]

How scary to live!
What's next?
Peskov's clock? Yakunin's fur coats? Wine from Medvedev's cellars?

[halpat]

Quote: Narak-zempo

How scary to live!
What's next?
Peskov's clock? Yakunin's fur coats? Wine from Medvedev's cellars?

Esquire is interviewing a Tuscan winemaker.
I look at all of them on TV sometimes and it becomes disgusting to me: ((

[Narak-zempo]

Quote: Halpat

Esquire is interviewing a Tuscan winemaker.

Reminded.
This one also had a summer cottage in the mountains.
It is a pity, I did not find a photo from the same angle and in civilian clothes, but I saw it somewhere.

[Clear]

Quote: Halpat

Esquire is interviewing a Tuscan winemaker.

Quote: Narak-zempo

Quote: Halpat

Esquire is interviewing a Tuscan winemaker.

Reminded.
This one also had a summer cottage in the mountains.
It is a pity, I did not find a photo from the same angle and in civilian clothes, but I saw it somewhere.

Guys, you think on whose "mill you are pouring water."
The entire "civilized" West is trying to compare Hitler with Stalin and the USSR with Nazi Germany, in order to declare in the second step that the Nazis have been defeated and nullified, and Russia, as the legal successor of the USSR, has remained a montstor and is subject to dehumanization ...

[pereselenec]

Quote: Clear

Guys, you think on whose "mill you are pouring water."

That's right, in these difficult times, when the doomsday plane was robbed, we all need to rally around the National Leader and his eagles (Chubais, Abramovich, Miller, Usmanov and Rotenberg)!

[Clear]

Quote: pereselenec

Quote: Clear

Guys, you think on whose "mill you are pouring water."

That's right, in these difficult times, when the doomsday plane was robbed, we all need to rally around the National Leader and his eagles (Chubais, Abramovich, Miller, Usmanov and Rotenberg)!

They forgot to write themselves into this company, as if Ivan.

[Aag]

Quote: Narak-zempo

How scary to live!
What's next?
Peskov's clock? Yakunin's fur coats? Wine from Medvedev's cellars?

Many would be happy about it.
For the country, there would certainly be less harm, even reputational ...

[nerovnayadoroga]

Nothing supernatural, thieves stole from thieves, hahaha !!!

[parusnik]

FSUE "UVO Ministry of Transport of Russia" A familiar organization, we somehow had a contract with them, about 3 years ago. They stole equipment from the object they were guarded, of course.

[Aag]

Quote: parusnik

FSUE "UVO Ministry of Transport of Russia" A familiar organization, we somehow had a contract with them, about 3 years ago. They stole equipment from the object they were guarded, of course.

Let's give another announcement: "Please return for a fee ..."?
ZAS, cipher blocks are discredited ...

[nerovnayadoroga]

And if they were simply removed for repair or modernization with the dismantling of outdated equipment!?!? And they forgot to inform those responsible for the safety, with us it can be easy and not forced !?

[Aag]

Quote: nerovnayadoroga

And if they were simply removed for repair or modernization with the dismantling of outdated equipment!?!? And they forgot to inform those responsible for the safety, with us it can be easy and not forced !?

This does not remove the questions about the organization of security guards, the preservation of the military and state. secrets.

[7,62x54]

In order to remove blocks and boards, you need to know where they are located. This is not to pull the plug out of the socket. It takes time to dismantle, it is not half an hour of work.

[dzvero]

And 39 blocks under the jacket cannot be carried away at once. Internal involved, 100%.

[7,62x54]

There is still something to think about. This December marks the 100th anniversary of the Russian SVR. Naryshkin recently touted how Russian spies were getting classified information around the world. And Mendeleev was among them, and Griboyedov. Not otherwise under the boss he boasted, serious people do not talk too much.
And this emergency with IL is nothing more than a festive slap in the face. And such a solid one.
If all this was espionage, how could they find out about the movement and location of the board.

[Nikolay Ivanov_5]

Shame on all the special services that were supposed to ensure the safety of this aircraft, as well as for the sluggish response to an emergency. Everyone is sleeping: FSB, FSO, Ministry of Defense and Ministry of Internal Affairs.

[Nastia makarova]

if it's not stuffing

[Mikhail m]

Presumably, the list of the abducted included radio transmitting and receiving devices, equipment for classifying speech information and encryption devices.

As it does not fit with the metalworkers. If only there are copper cables on the plane, then yes. And they won't give much for payment. So the losses are much greater than the stale equipment.

[Aag]

"... If only the copper cables that are on the plane ..."
There are many other places where copper can be mined with less risk and labor.
"... And they won't give much for payment ..."
You have insufficient knowledge of the element base and radio engineering in general and military in particular.
I think some organizations are even ready to pay unthinkable amounts for photos of individual boards.
"... the loss is much more than stale equipment."
You can't even imagine how much!
Even if not stolen. The very fact of unauthorized access to such equipment entails colossal losses. Plus imaging losses. (((

[ul_vitalii]

Or maybe this flying Dutchman found peace here, and then something was translated for someone, a muddy story. What they presented was presented in a way that was convenient and necessary for someone. I think not everything is so scary. Special operation.

[Aag]

"... Special operation."
It remains to be hoped. Somehow everything is ... unreal. Even for a special operation it is clumsy.
It is possible that even if they did it, they will convince that it was all conceived ... (((

[Nastia makarova]

most likely this is a stuffing and nothing happened

[mortido]

Even the ZAS keys whistled, now you need to change the entire communication system, where similar equipment is used ... the level of control is awful, of course. I think all the same, the main fault lies with the management of the plant, because the organization of control over the property is mediocre

[evgen1221]

The airfield gnomes stole the specific equipment at random in a hurry. Soon a robustly thought-out act of espionage. What will be next time - in the Kremlin a nuclear briefcase and codes in the presence of GDP will resist? And why, upon the arrival of such an aircraft, the security of the FSB machine, FSO is not transferred for the period of basing? There are a lot of questions, it's a resonant matter. The main thing is not to go out to ourselves and to partners over the hill, they will be offended.

[saygon66]

- Why be surprised ... In such organizations, seasoned retirees "work", who perceive this work as a way of earning money on a well-deserved rest ... this is not bad, but it does not affect work in the best way ...

[comradChe]

That's really done, so done. To be honest, this is out of the ordinary. Maybe the FSB should have done not only roofing work, but also with direct responsibilities?

[Van 16]

It looks like something ..
"- Camille, you couldn't.
- The main thing is that there can be something, Lord, eh?
(c) Election Day

[hydro]

Hmm, shame, now the secret services are greatly disgraced!

[Nastia makarova]

that's how it was planned

[KVU-NSVD]

The filmmakers clearly knew what to take - it is difficult for a non-specialist to identify equipment containing precious metals, and it’s impossible to quickly pull out especially valuable boards from it with limited lighting and a lack of time for someone who is not familiar with TOi IE. Conclusion - they knew what to take and big questions to the VOKHR members. But the more important and costly question is what to do now with the compromised aircraft equipment. For the future, such objects should be guarded by army guards.

[ccsr]

Quote: KVU-NSVD

The filmmakers clearly knew what to take - it is difficult for a non-specialist to identify equipment containing precious metals, and it is impossible to quickly pull out especially valuable boards from it with limited lighting and lack of time for those who are not familiar with TOi IE. Conclusion - they knew what to take and big questions to the VOKHR members.

Do you seriously believe that the ZAS and encryption technique was left on this plane when it was handed over to the enterprise? I don’t believe it, especially since this enterprise has nothing to do with these types of equipment.

[KVU-NSVD]

Quote: ccsr

Do you seriously believe that the ZAS and encryption technique was left on this plane when it was handed over to the enterprise? I don’t believe it, especially since this enterprise has nothing to do with these types of equipment.

I do not believe, I know about the extent of our slovenliness. And precious metals are contained not only in ZAS equipment, but also in more general-purpose racks.

[Aag]

"... and big questions to the VOKHR members ..."
Big questions to the general organization of the whole mess. The VOHR can be entrusted with the protection of the outer perimeter.
"... For the future, such objects should be guarded by army guards ..."
It's crazy that this has not yet been done at AZ.

[paco.soto]

I read the post and admired: what a mighty Russian language! Out of embarrassment, make Victoria so victorious! - only Russians can, what a delight damn it (with a sad smile)

[APASUS]

Now the FSB will start digging the ground, for the encryption equipment, I think the stars will fly from the shoulder straps of many.
The most interesting thing in this material is one line:

FSUE "UVO of the Ministry of Transport of Russia" was chosen as the supplier for "the provision of services for the protection of the transport infrastructure facility of the Taganrog (Yuzhny) aerodrome of PJSC TANTK Beriev"

So, learn to take responsibility off yourself.

[agoran]

They drove the board for routine maintenance, put it under the protection of TANTK, so that the responsibility is on the management / security service.
If the information is correct, and the ZAS equipment is taken away, the heads will fly unambiguously.
Well, as we said above, this action cannot be performed without knowledge of the aircraft design.
Local workers are unambiguously involved.

[paco.soto]

As follows from the data posted on the public procurement portal, TANTK im. Beriev spent 24,1 million rubles on organizing security. The agreement was concluded on April 1, 2020 for a period of one year until March 31, 2021. FSUE UVO of the Ministry of Transport of Russia was chosen as the supplier for the "provision of services for the protection of the transport infrastructure facility of the Taganrog (Yuzhny) aerodrome of PJSC TANTK Beriev" as the only one available on the basis of the decision of the Russian government in 2011. © ®

While I read the post and highlighted this ingenious - in non-diplomatic language, it means suck out all doubters.
Now is the time to read the forum.

[Vladislav_2]

there were anyway in the "case" from the officer on duty to the counter-agents ... the latter, together with the civilians, did it and there is so much platinum and gold in these blocks!

[agoran]

Try to read carefully.
The object is civil, what are the duty officers and contract soldiers there?
Earlier, at the aircraft factories there was a VOKhR guard.

[Vladislav_2]

you are right, I apologize for not reading it to the end ... but the essence of theft does not change from this! ... regardless of who guarded the object .... the fact is obvious

[mongolian9999]

Someone for the operation will receive a Purple Heart in a secret order.

[Amba412]

A purple heart was given for wounds

[pereselenec]

Quote: Amba412

A purple heart was given for wounds

Maybe he hurt his lungs with laughter, reading how the doomsday plane was shot under the noses of the grandmother-watchmen.

[orcinus]

What Hell have I read? This is against the background of several "analytical" articles on the site, where hypothetical conflicts with NATO are seriously discussed))) Yes, in NATO, half of the directorates must be reduced - here they are already fighting themselves with might and main)

[dgonni]

Well, what did they want from the security office with which the contract was concluded on April 1 !?
P.S. In the ancient 80s, as it was necessary from the railway station of Minsk to pick up the heels of the fighters who identified 2 goals of the disbat. And they were accompanied by one warrant officer. And we loaded them into a kung a prapor in our cabin. On a dumb question and type HOW? This will NOT run away for 2 years of disbat. How so without protection?
To which the story was told to us. In a nutshell, 5 future electronics engineers got into the ranks of the noble SA in the troops of the Strategic Missile Forces. There were such people in Balarus then. And the sieve figures found that idle blocks were lying around from the racks. And in them the rarest and most scarce mikruh diodes and transyuk are immeasurable. And this is a pure klondike. In Russia, they set up a business to dispose of these blocks in cash for a citizen.
The stump is clear. And the stump was clear to them they wanted to immediately sew on espionage from their homeland and start the sky in a strip from a dozen.
But then they reviewed and retrained. And they gave only 2 years of disbat.
And under investigation they have already served 21 months.
So the ensign said. Even if I leave them now, they themselves will run there like saigas without a car!

[Cucumbers]

My dear, you place the accents correctly. It is necessary to write like this; foreign intelligence has acquired control units of long-standing interest to them. Even if they find a bum who seems to have stolen blocks, you can throw out the whole system and work on the diametrically opposite.

[Vadim237]

And this is tens of billions of rubles of unforeseen spending on new equipment and several years of time for its implementation.

[agoran]

Some resources say that he stole about 30 blocks.
I am not familiar with the design of the Il-80, but it was difficult for one person to carry six blocks from the MiG-27.
Moreover, to take it out of the plant territory, here the work of the group is clearly seen.

[Amba412]

Well, here everything is clear. And it was not the metal workers who worked, and the guards were in business. At such moments you regret that SMERSH
dispersed. This case is a matter of counterintelligence. They can and should drive all the guards through the soldering iron in the anus

[Vadim237]

Apparently, this process has been going on since December 4, but we are not told about it.

[Aag]

"... Well, here everything is clear. It was not the metalworkers who worked, and the guards were in business .."
I don’t understand. Are they immortal, or downright stupid people? If they are stupid people, then how did they end up there? Who made the decision?

[evgen1221]

And on TV on this news, in general, silence, it seemed to us, everything is calm in Baghdad, the janissaries were allowed without presentation and documents, to open the transport and to detain citizens, in case of suspicion of illegal activity, a judge who knocked down 2 people to death was sentenced to a conditional settlement for 4 years with a suspension of the sentence for 14 years after 5 years after the fact of the accident and remove the conviction after the limitation period. Sleep peacefully residents of glorious Baghdad!

[tarakan]

Well, they didn't get to the red button ent not a hint

[certero]

Quote: man in the street

This reverberated with all the idiocy of 44-fz.

what is the idiocy of the law? The law was aimed precisely at making all purchases transparent. And everyone could participate in them.

[agoran]

You, apparently, are not familiar with this s-my, there a lot is decided not so well and not well, it is lazy to paint.

[Reserve buildbat]

The idiocy of the law lies in the fact that the protection of strategic military facilities was entrusted to civilian gouges, for whom either scrap metal or a nuclear warhead is metal for delivery.

[agoran]

TANTK them. Beriev is a civilian object.
It all depends on the leadership.
I can only compare with the Irkutsk aircraft plant. There were also civilians on guard.
The entrance to the assembly shop is only by cards (early 80s, where did you see the Proximity card?), And there was a small red-haired girl on guard, nicknamed Katka Petlyura.
The usual greeting: insert the card or suck the eye.
My colleague forgot the card at the hotel, he says, Katka, we made love to you today, and you demand a card from me?
Have you heard aviation mats?
So the softest was this ghost in a condom, well, this is a soft translation, there was a lot more.

[Aag]

Quote: agoran

TANTK them. Beriev is a civilian object.
It all depends on the leadership.
I can only compare with the Irkutsk aircraft plant. There were also civilians on guard.
The entrance to the assembly shop is only by cards (early 80s, where did you see the Proximity card?), And there was a small red-haired girl on guard, nicknamed Katka Petlyura.
The usual greeting: insert the card or suck the eye.
My colleague forgot the card at the hotel, he says, Katka, we made love to you today, and you demand a card from me?
Have you heard aviation mats?
So the softest was this ghost in a condom, well, this is a soft translation, there was a lot more.

So what happened after the mates? A colleague went to the shop?

[Dkuznecov]

This was the idea. It's always like this with us.
I'm working with this damn law
also. How it comes to implementation
ideas (read - law) - mascara light.
Who has adopted 44-FZ - will burn in hell
hundreds, no, I didn’t say a word, hundreds of years.

[Reserve buildbat]

"Presumably, the list of the stolen includes radio transmitting and receiving devices, equipment for classifying speech information and encryption devices."
Extra proof that they did not take "non-ferrous metals", otherwise they would have grabbed more weighty things.
And the protection of a strategic object by VOKHRA looks especially good, that is, grandmothers with Nagant revolvers. We have not yet transferred the protection of the Strategic Missile Forces positions to the VOKHR? Otherwise, at this rate, only scraps of wires will remain in the mines.

[agoran]

Well, actually FSUE "UVO of the Ministry of Transport of Russia" is not a VOKhR.
By the way, the so-called "grandmother" from the VOKhR on the protection of the Irkutsk aircraft plant hit the spy from the carbine in the ass, who was filming the plant airfield. The beginning of the 80s if that.

[Reserve buildbat]

UVO of the Ministry of Transport of Russia - Directorate of Non-departmental Security of the Ministry of Transport of Russia.
VOKHR - Non-departmental protection.
Just a note to you

[AndreyS]

Quote: Stroibat stock

Department of Non-departmental Security of the Ministry of Transport

If the Ministry of Transport is a departmental one))))
http://uvomintrans.ru/

[Reserve buildbat]

Wonderful. Let the Ministry of Transport now cover all the expenses of the Ministry of Defense. And the cost of the stolen equipment, and the cost of modernizing all communication systems, encryption and information transmission, and the cost of re-equipping all existing in the ranks and laid down air command posts to the new standard.

[Aag]

Quote: agoran

Well, actually FSUE "UVO of the Ministry of Transport of Russia" is not a VOKhR.
By the way, the so-called "grandmother" from the VOKhR on the protection of the Irkutsk aircraft plant hit the spy from the carbine in the ass, who was filming the plant airfield. The beginning of the 80s if that.

At the Irkutsk aircraft plant, painters of third-party organizations are issued admissions for painting workshops. Fingers, however, did not roll away ...

[Aag]

Quote: AAG

Quote: agoran

Well, actually FSUE "UVO of the Ministry of Transport of Russia" is not a VOKhR.
By the way, the so-called "grandmother" from the VOKhR on the protection of the Irkutsk aircraft plant hit the spy from the carbine in the ass, who was filming the plant airfield. The beginning of the 80s if that.

At the Irkutsk aircraft plant, painters of third-party organizations are issued admissions for painting workshops. Fingers, however, did not roll away ...

Sorry, I misled, the fingers also rolled back. The questionnaires were checked for more than a month. I don't know how thoroughly.

[Wolf]

Robbed the doomsday plane radar ???
Catastrophic miss !!!
For this, the war is declared !!!
Gentlemen of the FSB, the GRU is your first mistake!
You can justify yourself and the specialists work there, but only if you bring these specialists to the head within 2 weeks?

[Nastia makarova]

1.there is ancient equipment and the second it can only be stuffing and there was nothing

[Cucumbers]

Someone has reset all our pluses .. The boys are working. And everything is calm with us, like in a cemetery. Upstairs all at the same time ........

[AndreyS]

"...carried out private security according to the contract, ... "
Dear author! FSUE "UVO of the Ministry of Transport of Russia" is not a non-departmental security, departmental and belongs to the Ministry of Transport!
FEDERAL STATE UNITARY ENTERPRISE
DEPARTMENT OF DEPARTMENT SECURITY
MINISTRY OF TRANSPORT OF THE RUSSIAN FEDERATION
Please correct the inaccuracy.

[akarfoxhound]

And now the most interesting thing, gentlemen, I once fought with this dirty trick, under the name of the UVO (Directorate of Non-Departmental Security) of the Ministry of Transport, fought long and hard, not letting them into the airport. The reason is outrageously banal. According to our expensive legislation, the protection of airports that do not have international status should be carried out only by the Ministry of Transport - UVO of the Ministry of Transport. ONLY! Unobtrusive services are pushed through the same transport prosecutor's office. They have horse price tags! At the same time, attention, the most important thing - they are not legally responsible for ensuring transport security! Absolutely! In the absolute! The owner of the airport (aerodrome) is responsible for it. Seriously, everything that would not happen with you - the non-departmental security department of the Ministry of Transport of Russia is not responsible for anything! And you, according to the contract that you are obliged to sign, also provide them with everything they need at your own expense.
Now these Mintransovskie ghouls, I really hope, will get a drink from the heart. I really hope so. Painfully, this state banditry drank a lot of aviation blood.

[Vadim237]

I believe that after this, the Ministry of Transport will be completely liquidated by the UVO, and the management will be put together with the gouging security guards and the management of the Taganrog airport is still worried about how these craftsmen, before removing the blocks from the IL 80, did not go through the same A 50 and the new A 100 that were earlier the airfield landed - and then Il 80 flew in and the secret workers decided to end their long special operation with a cherry on the cake, they removed 39 special communication units and dumped the border of Ukraine abroad with them.

[Eug]

Do you rule out the option that someone wanted to replace them (it was too hot) and for this they arranged such a loud provocation?

[akarfoxhound]

I doubt it. Not the level of action to remove the ministerial "tribute", under such a plunder, many can sit down, but where will the thread be pulled if it is true and seriously grabbed and pulled? This is not the theft of some flowers and the carelessness of others, then sabotage with the undermining of the defenses will go under the law.

[Dikson]

In general, the war can be started right now on the sly ... This one got into a puddle ... it's nowhere steeper than that ...

[Vadim237]

It would be cooler if they hijacked this Il 80 at all abroad and the airport management would find out that the plane disappeared the next day.

[agoran]

Well, you don't have to be blunt.
To start and taxi you need permission from the control room.
Ride a scooter in the yard.

[Vadim237]

Those who are prepared and knowledgeable of the flight schedule can, without the permission of the KDP, make the main thing that the fuel would be on board.

[Radical]

Quote: ltc35

The consequences can be disastrous. For this article shines - treason.

Do not be ridiculous - in the Russian Federation under article 276 "espionage" the defendants receive ridiculous terms, and here you are - "treason". It worked in the USSR, in the Russian Federation, like everything else, it turned into a farce, and profanity with imitation.

[Eug]

Technically, the situation is very similar to the hijacking of a MiG-25 by pilot Belenko. Then this event became the reason for the radical modernization of the MiG-25 avionics, I think now they will change the special communication equipment. But this process is not fast, and what will happen to the CPSU before the replacement is a question of questions ...

[agoran]

Doesn't remind me in any way.
Yes, s-ma "friend or foe" was declassified, but expensive, but s-ma reached a new level.
All codes change, by hour or by request.

[evgen1221]

And where is the guarantee that now there is no bookmark, and the plane will not explode on a signal, or there will be no transmission of information to the left in flight?

[Nastia makarova]

nobody will change anything

[Radical]

Quote: agoran

Dear, you are on a serious resource, can you go to morons on YaPlakal?
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Dear, you yourself from what resource "fell" here, and to whom do you give advice here?
I will now list a dozen names of persons convicted in the USSR under Article 64 of the RSFSR Criminal Code ("espionage") to capital punishment (execution), and the terms indicated in your link will look not just ridiculous, but ridiculous! In addition, these deadlines are subject to revision, appeals towards early release .... But in the USSR, the highest measure under such an article did not provide an opportunity to jump off. So you look for some simpler site for yourself.

[agoran]

Stream of thought, constipation of consciousness.
What did you want to say?

[DLord]

Someone should probably quit burning with shame. Someone of the level of the Minister of Defense, the Minister of the Interior ... this is a shame for the whole world. Ugh damn it!

[agoran]

Alga, the guard's car was stolen from the parking lot and the general must quit?
Unified State Exam passed?

[Nastia makarova]

so everything was conceived to steal the old

[Radical]

Quote: tralflot1832

Taganrog, where it is, is just a stone's throw from the ukroverrmacht. Lohanulis so lohanulis. Wait, everyone involved in this scandal will fly their heads!

Where will they fly? In London? Washington? Paris? Where to?

[Radical]

Quote: agoran

Stream of thought, constipation of consciousness.
What did you want to say?

Whoever wants to - he will understand. I never write for characters like you, little one.

[agoran]

Hastened for yu.
"Small" 180 height and weight 90 kg., 60+.
On a weekend hunt, I took a wild boar weighing 89 kg.
So, that small, boast.

[Dkuznecov]

I apologize for interfering.

You must be proud of something?
By hunting? By your weight or by your height (why ???)
Why did they beat the wordless beast?

Not enough money for meat?

You will show your son
how to cut a wounded animal with a knife?

It just doesn't fit in my head
all this nonsense about cattle,
which for some reason "took",
What's next?
Boots size?

[Dimide]

Someone “screwed up” this operation. It will go down in the history of the special services. It’s not even the hijacking of the latest fighter, that’s worse.
I don’t even know what to compare it with!
What about the blow to the reputation and image of the country?!!

[Dikson]

Can be compared to cutting off a head... Strategic Missile Forces, Navy, Air Force... - everyone was left without command communication in an instant.... Take it lukewarm.. it’s just a disgusting situation...

[Dimide]

I absolutely agree. They write that nuclear code control equipment has been stolen.
Under the Union, the heads of the highest dignitaries would have rolled at once.
And who will appreciate the loss of combat effectiveness of the triad?

[Nastia makarova]

there was ancient equipment there

[Nastia makarova]

theft was fake

[agoran]

Heck, it might be a lot easier there.
The workers removed the blocks according to the instructions and left them on the cart. The working day is over.
The trash bin arrived, loaded it, and took it out.
In the 90s I ordered a cast iron plate for grinding block heads, it was heavy, so they took it out.

[Dimide]

The hatches were sealed when the work was completed, but on the 4th the cargo hatch was opened and the seal was broken

[agoran]

Hm. In the parking lot, the military unit responds to the DSCH before surrendering to the guard.
I don’t know about the factory, but there should also be similar security there.
That is, it turns out that protection was not carried out in full.

[Radical]

Quote: agoran

Hastened for yu.
"Small" 180 height and weight 90 kg., 60+.
On a weekend hunt, I took a wild boar weighing 89 kg.
So, that small, boast.

Listen, you're funny, "in kind"! Eat your boar, maybe in addition to your height and weight, it will also give you a sense of humor, and stimulate some other processes! Yes, and I almost forgot - don’t distract me anymore with your “wise” comments..., big... .

[agoran]

Well, let's sum it up.
The security showed its inaction.
The management showed its inaction.
Financial damage is to be blamed on this manual.
And this is the right decision
Well, and a personal wish, to hang “effective managers” by the balls.

[hydro]

Well, most importantly, Russia can easily find itself at gunpoint and only common sense, I hope, will tell you not to start a NATO nuclear war against Russia, otherwise you will only have to rely on the command center...

[Virus-free crown]

Judging by the number of minuses that they gave me for my first post here, I’ll expand my thought

THE MOST PRIMITIVE SECURITY SCHEME for a “doomsday” plane looks soooo...

1. The plane is surrounded by a movable fence made of chain-link mesh blocks
2. Two dogs are driven inside - a boy and a girl (so that I don’t get banned ;)) for example - Dobermans - pinschers = a well-coordinated pair and specially trained
3. Their collars have a GPS sensor and a pulse sensor - with online transmission to the security post

ALL!!! Who the hell would just walk into a protected area!!! If dogs, for example, are euthanized, security sensors will go off to tell them what’s wrong with the dogs!!!

If, for example, someone in the private security sector did not do this, he would be fired with a “wolf ticket” and he would never be allowed to work as a security guard again in his life!!! Perhaps as a security guard at a cemetery - and that’s not a fact!!!

So ... We are waiting for the reaction of HIMSELF... to the FACT... that he was robbed...

[agoran]

What the hell security.
Two MiG-25 aircraft took off from the Chernyakhovsk airfield and passed over Europe, while a Jewish woman was threatening to strike Egypt with nuclear charges; they passed over Israel, but neither missiles nor fighters could be intercepted. Grandma shit herself.
So, there was only one soldier standing near the sides for security.

[Virus-free crown]

Quote: agoran

What the hell security.
Two MiG-25 aircraft took off from the Chernyakhovsk airfield and passed over Europe, while a Jewish woman was threatening to strike Egypt with nuclear charges; they passed over Israel, but neither missiles nor fighters could be intercepted. Grandma shit herself.
So, there was only one soldier standing near the sides for security.

You probably didn't understand the point of the article.

The DIRECT text in the article says that Russia will have to spend a lot of time and even more billions of dollars to redo EVERYTHING from scratch!!! ciphers, codes and equipment for controlling the RF Armed Forces?! Consider, according to security protocols, from the moment the special equipment was stolen from the “doomsday” plane, according to security protocols, EVERYTHING!!! control of the RF Armed Forces has been cancelled!!! And we need to redo everything from scratch... Formally, we, Russia, are right now more harmless than a newborn...

[nerovnayadoroga]

Don’t make up nonsense, I’m already tired of reading this stupid nonsense, all the blocks have already been assembled into a single device and it now deciphers all the urges to go to the toilet, the equipment is easy to assemble and that’s it, the rest is none of your business, it’s just damage in the new hardware.

[Nastia makarova]

there was ancient unused equipment and no one would redo anything!!!!

[pereselenec]

Quote: Corona without virus

2. Two dogs are driven inside - a boy and a girl (so that I don’t get banned ;)) for example - Dobermans - pinschers = a well-coordinated pair and specially trained

You can take a dachshund like the one that Rogozin drowned. I think it is worth creating a special institution that will prepare such pairs of dachshunds, designed to guard aircraft.

Quote: Corona without virus

3. Their collars have a GPS sensor and a pulse sensor - with online transmission to the security post

You can implant them with SKLK chips, which will output the dogs’ neural interface directly to the TV in the security guardhouse. Communication can be established through the noosphere, since GPS is a Western technology - it can be turned off in the Russian Federation with a click from the Godep.

[ljoha_d]

“metalworkers” should be suspected last but not least, otherwise in such matters we have someone to help us from abroad

[TatarinSSSR]

There is no Stalin on them... Or maybe this is on purpose, a deception leaked to the media. They slipped theft customers such as “secret” devices and parts, but in fact they were fake. Now the intelligence services are playing different games. I just don’t see a logical explanation for this emergency. Responsible for ten years in logging.

[pereselenec]

Quote: TatarinSSSR

Or maybe this is on purpose, a deception leaked to the media. They slipped theft customers such as “secret” devices and parts, but in fact they were fake. Now the intelligence services are playing different games. I just don’t see a logical explanation for this emergency.

Without a doubt, a brilliant special operation by our special services to disinformation the Anglo-Saxons. Vladimir Vladimirovich played them again, like clockwork.

Quote: TatarinSSSR

Responsible for ten years in logging.

For what? After all, they are outwitted by the CIA and Zelensky, who recently received instructions from MI6.

[AC130 Gunship]

During the Cold War, the Americans had 2 of these Es135s constantly in the air for decades. TOZ and Atlantic.
They changed: one entered the zone, the other went to rest. And these were done at the end of the Cold War. And they stand rusting in the corner of the airport. ZKP - their peers - have already been turned into museums... They show people computers the size of a kitchen, and so on

[strelokmira]

Yes, if the doomsday plane is going to be fucked up for non-ferrous metal, then I can imagine what’s going on in the rest of the army... The Guarantor should at least hire local Urashek as guards, they won’t fuck it up, although maybe he already, and these, like honey, surprised the principles of Ur from Ur, nothing and nothing left

[NI1]

Does anyone else believe in the indestructible strength and power of our FSB, FSO and other enforcers? )))
Guys, what more evidence do you need that everything is kaput, the system is rotten and can no longer be saved!

Someone here wrote that FSB officers were supposed to guard it. Well, well, aren’t they the ones who lost 60 kg? drugs as evidence taken from police? Or the employees of Alpha and Vympel, who were wanted for a series of robberies?

And how many jingoistic comments there were a couple of months ago! ))) Hey yes, the plane! Hey, we have a baton! There are no analogues! The last trump card in the sleeve of the one you know!... And look, they tore apart the prodigy and the ends are in the water. That is OK! Tomorrow or the day after tomorrow we will get up from our knees and show them to their mother! )))

[Comrade Kim]

Quote: Bashkirkhan

Taganrog gopota and the FSB,

If so.
ZASovsky gadgets are not simply stolen.
Probably competent specialists from behind the hill worked “under the guise”.
A spectacular failure of our intelligence services.
In Soviet times, for such “art”, the responsible slob was left in the office alone with the PM.

[evgen1221]

I think it’s still a special operation of the special services to compromise the nuclear control link and creep towards a dead hand. How could journalists find out about such a high-profile theft - thieves from the gnomes called themselves? (They don’t need it). The military leaked information to the media (the FSB and the authorities are even more inappropriate, it’s too resonant, they show zero information on TV, too resonant and too Seriously, let the authorities talk about this) It turns out that the real customers leaked the information to the media in order to send a political signal to the GDP, but we will find out the topic later - or it will be a deflection of the Russian Federation or something else but a major political statement. This happened with the stop signal in Mariupol already, after a short-term shutdown of Glonass (it was also written in the media, and after 3 days Obama called and stopped on Donbass)

[Nastia makarova]

and I say that this is a special stuffing, if they stole something important, they would remain silent and no one would ever know what was stolen, so our special services and the organizers of this action

[donavi49]

It’s already clear how. The first department ran to the local police department with a complaint. The whole precinct laughed, making a list of homeless people and acceptances. From there the information leaked to Ren-TV. Well, and then all sorts of TASS and RIA contacted the police press service directly.

[syndicalist]

Second case recently. Not all is well in the Kingdom of Denmark.

[Mikhail S.]

There is no information when the theft itself occurred, perhaps it was discovered a month after the theft.

[Stalnov I.P.]

But what about the top officials of the state, now they will fly on the An-2, the failed internal policy has once again been confirmed, no matter how the leader is stolen?

[Roman070280]

The attackers removed radio equipment in the amount of 39 blocks of various communications equipment and five more boards from five of the same dismantled blocks.

I'll tell you a secret - these blocks were never there...
They simply stole the money that was previously allocated for this..))

[Souchastnik]

I'll tell you a secret - these blocks were never there...
They simply stole the money that was previously allocated for this..))

They chose some strange method. The image damage significantly exceeds the “profit” from such actions. During the Soviet times, so disliked by our leadership, many people temporarily lost their positions. And this time many may suffer. Although... As the Supreme Commander said, “it’s not ’37 now.”

[Shadow041]

The chief of security, his deputy, the chief of the guard are on trial. It is necessary to bypass the checkpoints, send people on patrol, not one at a time and not every fixed 2 hours, but make the intervals of patrolling the territory chaotic, so that attackers cannot predict the appearance of a patrolling group.

[sifgame]

Be that as it may, these kids, thieves, most likely already realized what they had done and simply threw all this stuff into some ditch. But in general, they will find it, when they really need to find it, they will pull it out from under the ground. Oh, come on))

[Takashi]

and to be honest, I’m glad they whistled.
It seems to me that this withdrawal clearly shows the entire scheme of economic and financial relationships built over 20 years of Putinism.
Just great.

[aries2200]

So it will go further and from the hand of the president, the watch will be compromised

[VLV]

It's surprising that the entire plane wasn't hijacked.

[Irbenwolf]

What a disgrace.