The date of the second flight of the new Il-112V aircraft is again postponed

Two years after the first tests, the date of the second flight of the new Il-112V military transport aircraft was once again decided to be postponed. Now it is tentatively scheduled for February next year.

About this news agency RIA News said a source working in the aircraft industry.

The most optimistic timeframe for continuing flight tests is February 2021.

- he said in response to a question from a media representative. The very word "optimistic" suggests that they can move further.

In part, the postponement of the test flight, according to the interlocutor, is due to the fact that PJSC "Ilyushin" is currently focusing on the Il-114-300 project.

After the first flight, the Il-112V was improved. In particular, the weight of the aircraft was reduced by about two tons, and improvements were made to the main systems of the aircraft.

The source said that after the first flight, it was planned to lighten the structure of the aircraft, and then repeat the tests by the end of 2019. After that, the date of the second flight of the Il-112V was postponed four times, the last of which was scheduled for February 2021.

In the United Aircraft Corporation, information received by RIA News, did not comment.

Il-112V is a light military transport aircraft. It should replace the An-26, which is in service with the RF Air Force, which is about to expire.

Comments

[Siberian 66]

You'd better not think about it, so as not to disgrace ..

[Temples]

Nice plane.
Put on the wing.
A year earlier or a year later.
The main thing is that it would be reliable.

Serve him for fifty years.

[figwam]

That's what it means to go to the 90s engineering school.

[NEOZ]

Quote: figvam

That's what it means to go to the 90s engineering school.

why aren't you an engineer?

[figwam]

Quote: NEOZ

why aren't you an engineer?

If we knew each other, you would not ask me such a question.

[military_cat]

Eh. Do you remember? ...



As it turned out, the penguin is not sold to everyone, and Eli's willingness to fly is somewhat overestimated.

[Boris ⁣ Shaver]

Quote: military_cat

Ila's readiness to fly is somewhat overestimated

Right now, another four-thread "unnecessary" will be sawed off from it in order to bring the mass back to normal, and it will fly!)))

[210ox]

I will try to answer. Previously, electrical technicians hired specialists with secondary vocational training. Now at our enterprise they take at least from a vocational school, if only they have two hands. And an engineer will get a job with a good salary under fifty dollars only for a very large pull. And even then, you have to wait until they come up with a position for you. For example, I work as a technician with a tower "automatics and telemechanics", because we have no enterprises with a similar profile in the district. And the age is already.

[faiver]

And an engineer will get a job with a good salary under fifty dollars only for a very large pull

- I would not call such a salary good for an engineer ...

[210ox]

Well, she's just "wonderful" for the Krasnodar Territory.

[Boris ⁣ Shaver]

Quote: faiver

I would not call such a salary good for an engineer

A courier from Central Asia for delivery in Moscow may well receive 80.

[venik]

Quote: figvam

That's what it means to go to the 90s engineering school.

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I remember after the first flight of the Il-112V, the Chief Designer of AO "Il" Talikov just complained about the qualifications of young specialists and the outflow of qualified personnel due to low salaries ...

[Narak-zempo]

Quote: venik

outflow of qualified personnel due to low salaries ...

Some kind of spiritual "personnel".
In their braces!

[210ox]

In sharashki you probably wanted to say? I would have gathered all these guides there. And make him work. At least on the adhesive of the envelopes. They are not capable of more.

[Narak-zempo]

Quote: 210ox

In sharashki you probably wanted to say? I would have gathered all these guides there. And make him work. At least on the adhesive of the envelopes. They are not capable of more.

These will not cover the cost of security and feeding.

[dauria]

Nice plane.
Put on the wing.

They will deliver when they find 4500 horsepower engines.
The squalor turned out. On the CASA C-295 engines, on the fuselage - "Spartan".
The result is hard for these motors. General not felling for the fact that he stuck his tongue in the ass. And instead of "Ofigeli? Give the engines, or cut the Wishlist !!!" shuffled his foot, "What do you please, gentlemen"

[Orange bigg]

How heavy is it, if even the weighted version of the Il-112V flies calmly on these engines?

On March 30, the newest Russian light transport aircraft Il-112 V took off from the VASO runway. But it is worth paying attention not only to the development of the newest aircraft, but also to the fact that it was lifted into the air by the latest Russian TV7-117ST engines, developed in the UEC corporation by the UEC-Klimov company.

As the portal "Made with us" was informed in the press service of the UEC, during the flight the engines worked normally.

“The development of the TV7-117ST engine is the most important program for the UEC and the aviation industry as a whole,” says Alexander Artyukhov, General Director of UEC JSC. - The newest turboprop engine for military transport and regional aviation has been created.

The newest engine will enable Russia to develop production in the segment of small turboprop aircraft. For example, the TV7-117ST-01 modification will be used on the Il-114 regional passenger aircraft, and will replace the TV7-117C and 127H engines manufactured by Pratt & Whitney.

https://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/118643/

[donavi49]

Quietly, this is the first (and only) flight without cargo (and he must take 5 tons according to the technical specification) and without fuel (and he should carry 5 tons for 1200 km along the adjusted downward direction already based on problems with the weight of the technical specification).

[Rzzz]

The latest engine will allow

Well, he's not that "newest" either. This is a slightly altered helicopter engine half a century ago.

[SSR]

Quote: rzzz

Well, he's not that "newest" either. It is somewhat redone

Quote: 210ox

Do you think the modernization of the Soviet helicopter engine is the latest development?

Comrades, please tell me how to evaluate the old Soyuz *, it probably does not differ at all from the very first Soyuz and the same "half-century" Soyuz flies.

[Rzzz]

I'm not saying that the motor is bad. Great engine, just a little too small for an airplane. A little would be more powerful.
If it were bad, it wouldn't last half a century.
Claim only to sweet snivels: "newest", and other "no-one".

[210ox]

Do you think the modernization of the Soviet helicopter engine is the latest development? AND! Well, yes, it's "Made by us" ..

[stas Sv]

So what are the problems? AI-20D 5th series; thrust up to 5180 liters. from.

[venik]

Quote: dauria

General not felling for the fact that he stuck his tongue in the ass. And instead of "Ofigeli? Give the engines, or cut the Wishlist !!!"

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And what will the An-24 / -26 be replaced in VTA with, smart guy? They already have a resource at the limit, they will soon begin to pour in! Moreover, both in the literal and figurative sense of the word! And replace with WHAT? The stump is clear that it turned out "not God knows what", according to the principle "I blinded you out of what WAS". Essentially the same An-26, only with more economical engines and new avionics and a larger cargo compartment. For export, this machine is not very good. But its main consumer is domestic military-transport aviation!
Well, there ... Or, finally, the production of composites will finally be brought up, or more suitable engines will finally be created ... In the meantime, plug the "hole" in the BTA park with something you need! And already "yesterday"!

[Rzzz]

Quote: venik

But its main consumer is the domestic military transport aviation!

You can not do it this way. You cannot develop equipment relying only on the military. This implies that the commercial user is not interested in it for economic reasons. But then it turns out that the military will operate the car at very high costs. And budgets are not limitless.

[venik]

Quote: rzzz

You cannot develop equipment relying only on the military. This implies that the commercial user is not interested in it.

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And tanks, self-propelled guns, or air defense systems - should also be of interest to a "commercial" user?
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Quote: rzzz

But then it turns out that the military will operate the car at very high costs.

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Yes, just NO! Or do you think that driving an Il-74 loaded by 10-15% will be more economical ??
By the way, in terms of fuel efficiency, the Il-112V is much (almost twice) more economical than the An-26! And the excessive strength of the structure allows you to count on long service life.
Another thing is that, according to the requirements of the military, composites are not used in the airframe's load-bearing structure - this is understandable: most composites, with their undoubted advantages (low weight, high strength), are fragile things. One large fragment in the wing box is enough for a funeral procession! Hence the insufficient weight efficiency - with 21 tons of "dry weight" only 5 tons of carrying capacity (like the An-24), which by today's standards will not be enough for a "commercial" aircraft!
So for "commercial use" it is likely that a modification with a lightweight airframe, other engines (possibly imported), etc. will appear. But it can wait .... But BTA cannot wait any longer! Time is running out!

[Rzzz]

Quote: venik

tanks, self-propelled guns, or air defense systems - should also be of interest to a "commercial" user?

Do not mix military equipment and vehicles, even military ones, in a heap. The combat one is in hangars for the time being, and since it comes to it, there will be few people worry about the costs.
Transport is always used, and in peacetime too. The money must be counted at this time, otherwise there won't be enough for tanks. The budget is not endless, especially when you consider how our management prioritizes spending.

[Pavel57]

And Peru will not wait.

[SSR]

Quote: Temples

Put on the wing.
A year earlier or a year later.

They are working on this, it is true and true that the teams are now working on 114 and cannot be scattered over several projects, everyone is working in tension.
The rest of the philistine blah blah, everyone knows how to play football correctly, but many do not remember when they themselves played the last time.

[Boris ⁣ Shaver]

Quote: Temples

Serve him for fifty years

Sad

[orionvitt]

Quote: Sibiryak 66

so as not to disgrace

And what is the actual shame? Normal work environment. Something is being finalized, something is being altered. It's a shame when the deadlines are not postponed, but when everything is canceled and the project is closed.

[Stas157]

Quote: orionvitt

And what is the actual shame?

Yes, everything is not so hot there. Starting from TK. Ancient An, with the same characteristics, takes a ton more. There are even more foreign classmates. And in spite of the modest TK, this pot-bellied little one turned out to be too heavy. Moreover, it is very decent for a small plane. On a good plane, it is necessary to redesign the aircraft, and not to torture, do not understand what.

[JD1979]

Quote: orionvitt

And what is the actual shame? Normal work environment. Something is being finalized, something is being altered. It's a shame when the deadlines are not postponed, but when everything is canceled and the project is closed.

The shame is real. Shame on the country and the system. The design bureau, which under the USSR put on the wing a bunch of aircraft from small to such large ones as the Il-76 and Il-96, which themselves can transport this "runabout" conditionally, cannot bring this "runabout" to mind in so many years ...

[senima56]

Why not? "Guessing" is possible .... it is not necessary to announce publicly! And if you have announced - answer for your words! It will be so right!

[Uncle lee]

February 2021 of the year.

It's a shame ... Something is not going well

[Nikolay Ivanov_5]

Let there be a good future for this aircraft modification.

[The leader of the Redskins]

Not the happiest news. An - 26, of course, is a good plane, a hard worker. But ... he thought. Replacement is required.

[faiver]

we will think that everything will be fine ...

[Guru]

The plane was created, we rode once, now we will finalize a little with a file and for a stream.

[senima56]

Something too long "finalizing the file" .... So you can "finalize" that it will not fly any more! And then they will buy a "foreign car", receive a "kickback" and be happy! Personal responsibility - only this can save the aviation industry!

[evgen1221]

And this is not the airplane that was overweight in the computer using the method of curved computer modeling, and now it is heroically lightening it?

[NEOZ]

Quote: evgen1221

And this is not the airplane that

exactly that....

[Vovk]

Quote: evgen1221

And this is not the airplane that was overweight in the computer using the method of curved computer modeling, and now it is heroically lightening it?

There was a scandal in the aviation circles that the CAD system on which aircraft were designed not only in Russia, but also in the CIS countries and Europe, China and even the USA, turned out to be not very reliable in the simulation results. In general, a number of firms' aircraft turned out to be heavier, had problems with alignment and, say, not with the expected characteristics. After that, a number of Boeing projects were then rechecked and recounted in Russia, and China transferred part of its projects to be recounted to Ukraine. Not so simple.

[evgen1221]

Something your infa about rechecking by whom and with whom looks to say the least nonsense (infa guano). That ukrov have such powerful programmers and the best IT school in the world, or that we have such powerful programmers that I am addressing them? Look at most programs for pc and there is an inscription prodact in usa usually. Your infa is cloudy and looks like a smokescreen of a product for braking competitors (a deliberately specially created program with critical errors and it is for sale outside). So that the Americans allow a critical dependence in the development of the sides of the country, the gas stations, they will strangle themselves, but they will do everything themselves, since there are 300 million people from where to find it.

[Narak-zempo]

Quote: Vovk

and China transferred part of its projects to Ukraine for conversion

Yes, they will count some kakly there ...

[Reviews]

Damn it ... What a disgusting thing ...

[APASUS]

Yeah, the restoration of the aircraft industry is going on hard in our country. If you don't want to and believe in the presence of high-ranking lobbyists for American interests, in our state.

[akarfoxhound]

I'll just tell you - they are (lobby, but we call it differently). And this is not any conspiracy theory, just loot defeats evil, as the mattresses say, everything is simple.

[evgen1221]

Judging by the reportage with applause in the minds of these lobbyists 99.999999% I wonder if ours were in the Senate with them? And how many senators applauded?

[APASUS]

Quote: evgen1221

Interestingly, were ours in the Senate with them? And how many senators applauded?

Boris N. Yeltsin was and spoke. (1992.06.17) in the US Congress, the applause broke 100%, the audience applauded while standing! Have bought a parasite

[evgen1221]

Well, Yeltsin and Gorbachev are understandable with them, I'm talking about the Duma deputies already of Putin's spill, did any of them get such a steep applause, throwing their caps into the air and with a single impulse to include the anthem of the Russian Federation in the Senate ???

[Daniil Konovalenko]

More thoroughly, more thoroughly ..

[mark1]

What a shame! We stumbled on the airborne ...
And even the elimination of Rogozin Jr. did not help ...
Somewhere in Sukhoi's storerooms there is a S-80, maybe it is through revision? ...

[Guru]

Are you on this one?

But here the weight categories are different.

[mark1]

If you go back to the origins of the revision, and this is the MiG-110 and try to bring it to its parameters, then maybe something would have happened. Yes, so this is a rhetorical question, it will still get bogged down in the modifications of "irresistible" force or (and) time.

[NEOZ]

Quote: mark1

the elimination of Rogozin Jr. did not help ...

maybe it's not Rogozin?

[mark1]

Duck and I are about the same! Just about its appointment and removal, so many people gurgled ... they also found the root of evil for me.

[nov_tech.vrn]

The "Beriev" top managers, the Varangians, caused much more damage than could have been expected, now there is a chance to modify the aircraft.

[Radical]

[quote = APASUS] [quote] Yeah, the restoration of the aircraft building industry is going hard with us. [/ quote]
Is it really coming? Let me ask you - who have been the leaders of this industry over the past 30 years?
[quote] Here you don't want to and believe in the presence of high-ranking lobbyists for American interests in our state [/ quote]. You can be sure of this.
https://zen.yandex.ru/media/war/pismo-elcinu-v-1995-godu--seriinyi-zapusk-tu204-nedopustim-5fc56abe37dee85d85ccbcf0

[Martian]

There is not enough money ... They were sent for humanitarian aid to Syria and Karabakh ... And they have not collected new taxes yet ..

[NEOZ]

Quote: Martian

There is not enough money ... They were sent for humanitarian aid to Syria and Karabakh ...

and forgot about the pensioners! (irony)

[Rzzz]

Practice shows that you can't make an airplane out of money alone.

[sgr291158]

Slowly with a creak, but our aviation industry is starting to gain momentum.

[Dkuznecov]

That's not funny at all.

[alien308]

As far as I looked at the situation there was nothing to take off. The construction is overweight. The ramp was made heavy, resulting in a misalignment. Completely violated. It is necessary to almost completely redo the fuselage, but for now we were limited to cosmetic changes. They made it easy on the little things, just to do nothing seriously. You can't fix the alignment like that. They pull rubber and wait for the donkey or padishah to die. It is necessary to change the TK and make a really possible apparatus.

[nov_tech.vrn]

take it yourself, count such specialists on your fingers. Do you regulate karma from photography?

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

Why rush people and create nervousness? Let them work in peace. Lives and passengers will depend on the quality of their work. Have already gotten tired of slogans and deadlines!

[Dkuznecov]

"PJSC" Ilyushin "is currently focusing on the Il-114-300 project"
that is, the breakdown of the schedule is associated with excessive attention to other, more favorite tasks?
Fuuh .. I thought sabotage was evident.

[RoTTor]

Turtle pace is unacceptable.
In the USSR, from the issuance of the TTZ to the launch into the series, in 2-3 years they managed
In their sharashka so that they do not sleep and do not oversleep everything.

Relaxed from the fact that neither ANTONOV
no western competitors

[three]

Money down the drain ... Half will be taken away, half will be invested in a priori "dead" hopeless plane. Even if it turns out to be successful (not this one, here the TK needs to be changed), the Boeing Airbuses will lobby the State Duma and send money to the government and bury it ... The scheme has been working for decades

[Pavel57]

Quote: Vovk

There was a scandal in the aviation circles that the CAD system on which aircraft were designed not only in Russia, but also in the CIS countries and Europe, China and even the United States, turned out to be not very reliable in the simulation results

Nonsense. In large aviation, there are two CAD systems -
Catia and NX. The UAC e NX. In civil Boeing and Airbus - Catia.
Which one is lying?

[faiver]

Which one is lying?

- maybe both?

[Pavel57]

Rather, the error is introduced by the calculation systems built into NX, or Ansys or the like.

[Ryaruav]

problem machine with unknown end

[anclevalico]

The most optimistic, then unrealizable? Well, nothing, the main thing to do, everything can be solved.