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The Ministry of Defense asks Russian developers to speed up the creation of shock drones

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The Ministry of Defense asks Russian developers to speed up the creation of shock drones

The Ministry of Defense turned to enterprises of the Russian military-industrial complex with a request to accelerate the development of domestic strike systems. This was announced by the head of "Rostec" Sergei Chemezov.


According to Chemezov, work is underway in Russia on several projects of attack drones, but work in this direction has not yet been completed. At the same time, the Ministry of Defense asked the developers to speed up work and provide the Russian army with shock drones.

We already have carriers, and in this direction are working not only the enterprises of "Rostec", but also the Ural plant of civil aviation, and the company "Kronstadt". In addition, the Sukhoi concern has already completed the development and started testing of the heavy UAV Okhotnik ... Now the Ministry of Defense is asking to speed up the completion of all work on these projects.

- explained the head of Rostec.

Speaking about specific developments, Chemezov added that the Okhotnik is being tested in conjunction with the Su-57, and the small-sized drones of the Kalashnikov concern are already being used by the military in Syria. Medium UAV "Corsair" from KB "Luch" can also carry weapon, he can go into series after the corresponding request from the Ministry of Defense.

The Kalashnikov drones took part in the fighting in Syria. They have proven themselves well, the Defense Ministry is happy to acquire them. And not only intelligence, but also combat

- he added.

Earlier, the head of the UAC, Yuri Slyusar, said that serial deliveries of heavy shock UAVs "Okhotnik" would begin in early 2024.
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  1. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 7 December 2020 10: 40
    -1
    The Ministry of Defense turned to enterprises of the Russian military-industrial complex with a request to accelerate the development of domestic strike systems.
    The medium UAV "Corsair" from KB "Luch" can also carry weapons, it can go into production after a corresponding request from the Ministry of Defense.
    For the Ministry of Defense "the wrong system", or what?
    1. Temples
      Temples 7 December 2020 11: 53
      +20
      MO asks. laughing

      Write a letter to Santa Claus.

      Make grandpa us a drone drone. And tell us why we need it and what performance characteristics are needed. And then we ourselves do not know, but manufacturers do not give a clear answer to our requests))) laughing

      We all have UAVs, but we don't. Help us Santa Claus.
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      2. VO3A
        VO3A 7 December 2020 13: 00
        -11%
        Again the stupidity of the MO in all its glory! See all! Dumb officials confess their stupidity.
        Everything is under their feet except the brains, which are not in their heads and will not be ...
        Put on an ordinary small UAV a guidance system for Krasnopol (they say there is already), Brave, Centimeter or for the new Tornado-S corrected missile ... We have unique projectiles and missiles, but they are guided from the ground manually, not with a UAV ... It's cheaper and much angrier ... Create such units in the army ...
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4oW32VpbOpY
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ucfBeokqS74
        https://iz.ru/1053632/2020-08-27/reaktivnye-sistemy-tornado-s-poluchili-novye-rakety
        Their guidance system for attack UAVs in real time is limited, control via satellite is just being put into operation, that's where you need to invest money. Shock drones take off from airfields, use unique ammunition, and komikadze drones are used only once ... This is not a universal weapon, for poor armies like Azerbaijan has! And we aspire there? It seems that yes! Or to cut the money again?
        1. Herman 4223
          Herman 4223 7 December 2020 15: 07
          +6
          Small-sized kamikaze drones are a good addition to anti-tank systems. It is in the same range as the missile from the ATGM, but the launch range is noticeably greater, several times greater. The chances of getting hit back, respectively, are also much less.
          Generals whom you like to call stupid, they even graduated from the academy, and have management experience, but what do you have behind you?
          1. VO3A
            VO3A 7 December 2020 15: 50
            -5
            Small-sized kamikaze drones are a good addition to anti-tank systems.

            Who will attack you with tanks?
            Tanks are advancing, or only one country with its smartest graduates of academies thinks to attack ... You can assume that you finished it too ...
            1. Herman 4223
              Herman 4223 7 December 2020 16: 08
              +5
              And with tanks you can only attack, you can not defend? The Ishilovites also fought with tanks. Who will not use them if they are available?
        2. TatarinSSSR
          TatarinSSSR 11 December 2020 00: 01
          0
          ATGM is, in principle, the same kamikaze drone, only launched by a fighter on the ground at once the target. Aren't ATGMs an effective weapon? But a fighter with an ATGM cannot operate safely in the rear and in the depths of the front. A kamikaze drone, due to the flight altitude and stealth, it can. While the Fighter is safe.
      3. Grits
        Grits 7 December 2020 17: 46
        -1
        Quote: Temples
        MO asks.

        Can you imagine the picture? Iosif Vissarionovich asks the company to speed up work on a new tank.
      4. smart ass
        smart ass 9 December 2020 10: 17
        +1
        Hunter with all due respect is a wunderwolf, but you need a simple, cheap, massive!
    2. Thrifty
      Thrifty 7 December 2020 12: 42
      +13
      Problem number one is its engine, problem number two is its high-quality microelectronics. As these problems are solved, the country will receive a strike drone.
      1. Alexey from Perm
        Alexey from Perm 7 December 2020 15: 29
        -3
        means - never?
  2. Fungus
    Fungus 7 December 2020 10: 43
    -13%
    Where is this yap Dikson with an alleged lag of 25 years.



    PS Our shock drones Cube launched a column of barmels back in 2015.
    1. Simon schempp
      Simon schempp 7 December 2020 10: 59
      +2
      Where is that yap Dikson supposedly 25 years behind

      Ahah. The fungus called someone yap. Hold me seven))

      Our shock drones Cube unleashed a column of barmels back in 2015

      Yeah. Or maybe in 2005?))
      1. Fungus
        Fungus 7 December 2020 11: 42
        -3
        In 2015, it was tested in Syria in combat conditions. No need to drag Wikipedia here.
        1. Dikson
          Dikson 7 December 2020 13: 04
          +2
          You, Gribok, were answered below ..- count, if you taught arithmetic at school .. To be rude to people - you don't need a lot of intelligence, the main thing is to shout patriotic slogans louder ... false information. I write in the comments, taking part in the discussion, along with everyone present here. What I am writing is my point of view and the information I have found from various sources. It may not be true. As well as your writing. About the use of various UAVs here, the site has excellent material. With dates, models and countries of manufacture and specific application. Ask, on occasion ... All the best.
          1. Fungus
            Fungus 7 December 2020 13: 20
            -6
            You are a noble fakecomet however. You dissolve fakes without proofs. This is not good.
    2. Avior
      Avior 7 December 2020 11: 03
      +2
      Our shock drones Cube launched a column of barmels back in 2015.

      Operation Medvedka 19, when Israel used UAVs against Syrian air defenses in a combat situation, is 1982.
      yes, not 25 years difference ...
      1. Pereira
        Pereira 7 December 2020 11: 14
        +12
        I counted 36.
        True, in 1982 these were other drones - reconnaissance. And scouts in the USSR have been produced since 1963, starting with the La-17R.
        1. Avior
          Avior 7 December 2020 12: 02
          +4
          La-17 is a target for which the camera was adapted.
          He did not transmit video to the ground, in a real combat situation he was never used.
          UAVs themselves have long been known.
          The Austrians tried to bomb Venice with an unmanned airship back in the 19th century.
          And radio-controlled aircraft have also been known for a long time, including in the USSR.
          Yes, and Israel used UAVs in the 60s.
          in 1982, it's a different level.
          1. Pereira
            Pereira 7 December 2020 14: 17
            +4
            By 82, there were already more advanced drones in the USSR.
            1. Avior
              Avior 7 December 2020 18: 04
              +2
              And the experience of their mass combat use was?
    3. Hermit21
      Hermit21 7 December 2020 11: 14
      -23%
      They also put pluses to this vyser
    4. OgnennyiKotik
      OgnennyiKotik 7 December 2020 11: 17
      +6
      The jet UAV AQM-34 "Firebee" was actively and successfully used during the Vietnam War (1965-1973 year). During this war, more 1000 American Firebee committed 3435 sorties.
      The first experiments in using Firebee in as a bomber were held in 1964 year, the device took two 81-pound bombs Mk 1971 and carried out aimed bombing. In 34, the world's first prototype reconnaissance and strike drone BGM-XNUMXA, armed with ATGM Maverick and UAB Paveway on the external suspension nodes.
      The first in world military history, the launch of an air-to-surface missile with television guidance from a drone took place December 14 1971 year.
  3. APASUS
    APASUS 7 December 2020 10: 47
    +6
    Our Defense Ministry would first of all set the requirements for the UAV and determine what it wants. Until we see the specifics, for what purposes and tactics, while they just want to have strike UAVs.
    Here "Kalashnikov" has created a new loitering drone-kamikaze "Lancet", and how much did our Defense Ministry buy such weapons?
    1. evgen1221
      evgen1221 7 December 2020 10: 57
      +8
      Well, and the amers, at first they did the hishnik, then gradually the tactics appeared. The point of coming up with a tactic for using the death star if it is not available?
      1. AlexeyEg
        AlexeyEg 7 December 2020 12: 54
        0
        The MO has no imagination ... and this is the worst ...
        1. Krasnoyarsk
          Krasnoyarsk 7 December 2020 14: 48
          0
          Quote: AlexeyEg
          The MO has no imagination ... and this is the worst ...

          Developers should have imaginations. They should make their fantasies come true. MO must be realistic and develop tactics for the application of fantasy embodied in metal.
          1. AlexeyEg
            AlexeyEg 7 December 2020 15: 37
            +1
            Shouldn't MO be "proactive"?
          2. VO3A
            VO3A 7 December 2020 16: 11
            +1
            Well, you need to voice such nonsense! Is your horse carrying a cart? In normal countries, the military orders equipment and formulates requirements for it ... on the basis of promising combat scenarios and the experience of hostilities and the achievements of the technical revolution ... Our military does not know what the Su-57 and T-14 are for, and they come up with where to put the "Hunter" ... These samples appeared early for us, we do not have conditions and systems for their use ... We do not have Combat Information Systems, we do not need separate devices for these systems ... Separate from non-existent systems ....
    2. RUSS
      RUSS 7 December 2020 11: 40
      +8
      Quote: APASUS
      Our Defense Ministry would first of all set the requirements for the UAV and determine what it wants. Until we see the specifics, for what purposes and tactics, while they just want to have strike UAVs.
      Here "Kalashnikov" has created a new loitering drone-kamikaze "Lancet", and how much did our Defense Ministry buy such weapons?

      Until the roasted rooster bites)))).
      We waited for Karabakh, but before that, what were we waiting for?
      1. Smirnoff
        Smirnoff 7 December 2020 13: 50
        +23
        Quote: RUSS
        We waited for Karabakh, but before that, what were we waiting for?

        And before that, weirdos with the letter "m" said that we do not need creators, but literate consumers. I wish they could be brought to justice now. But you can't, they are from the "team"
      2. Krasnoyarsk
        Krasnoyarsk 7 December 2020 14: 49
        +3
        Quote: RUSS
        We waited for Karabakh, but before that, what were we waiting for?

        Why did you wait? Puffed over the engine, electronics ...
        1. APASUS
          APASUS 7 December 2020 15: 55
          +2
          Quote: Krasnoyarsk
          Why did you wait? Puffed over the engine, electronics ...

          Puffed, still puffed. Where can you tell me where the replacement RED A03 from th RED Aircraft GmbH? They also wanted to install it on the Altair UAV.
          1. Krasnoyarsk
            Krasnoyarsk 7 December 2020 18: 03
            +2
            Quote: APASUS

            Where is the replacement for RED A03 from th RED Aircraft GmbH, tell me? They also wanted to install it on the Altair UAV.

            That's why I wrote - puffed. If it worked, I would write - done !!!
            You know how difficult it is with us with engines, any. We go through a lot of pain before getting a good product.
    3. Herman 4223
      Herman 4223 7 December 2020 15: 42
      +1
      They should put the requirements in the public domain so that you know?
      Then why would someone spend money if there are no requirements?
      1. APASUS
        APASUS 7 December 2020 16: 21
        +3
        Quote: Herman 4223
        They should put the requirements in the public domain so that you know?

        This is why we have neither tactics nor tactics. Everything is classified!
        Then we just get this answer:
        On April 22, 2018, the general director of the M.P.Simonov Design Bureau, Alexander Gomzin, was arrested and charged with the theft of 900 million rubles allocated for the development of a drone.

        On October 9, 2018, there was a message about the termination of the development of "Altair"
        1. Herman 4223
          Herman 4223 7 December 2020 20: 11
          -2
          Who told you not? If something is missing in the public domain, this does not mean that it is absent at all. And who needs a job or job, they know everything very well and the tactics and strategy are there.
  4. x.andvlad
    x.andvlad 7 December 2020 10: 48
    +6
    Better late than never, of course.
  5. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 7 December 2020 10: 51
    +7
    The main apparatus for us now is Orion. The other two in + size change only in the carrier and satellite control channels. A hunter is already a machine with its own brains. And against equal opponents. Accordingly, to level two, advanced by the brains
    1. loki565
      loki565 7 December 2020 12: 09
      -3
      Preparing the hunter as an interceptor, he was recently tested with air-to-air missiles.
      1. Zaurbek
        Zaurbek 7 December 2020 13: 58
        0
        Judging by the glider diagram, this is an analogue of the F117 stealth.
        1. Krasnoyarsk
          Krasnoyarsk 7 December 2020 14: 53
          +9
          Quote: Zaurbek
          Judging by the glider diagram, this is an analogue of the F117 stealth.

          laughing Judging by the four wheels of the car, an analogue of a cart
          1. Zaurbek
            Zaurbek 7 December 2020 21: 14
            0
            Both wheel and aerodynamics obey the laws. And they don't fly as they want.
        2. El Chuvachino
          El Chuvachino 8 December 2020 14: 47
          0
          Nothing in common in application scenarios.
  6. gridasov
    gridasov 7 December 2020 10: 53
    +9
    Drones are not the problem! The problem is in the minds of those who have not seen the development of situations and technologies in the world. Where is analysis and modeling? At the very least, all this means that in many key areas of scientific and technical development the country will be simply powerless in a very short time. Naturally this will lead to a change and balance of power.
    1. Kart
      Kart 7 December 2020 10: 57
      0
      The problem is in the minds of sofa experts.
      There is both analysis and modeling. And taking into account the fact that all the equipment must be made in Russia, the task is not very simple, and time-consuming.
      But nevertheless, it is being solved successfully.
      Now, if you jump in the squares, then yes, "the country will be powerless in a very short time."
      1. donavi49
        donavi49 7 December 2020 11: 20
        +16
        Who told you such tales about 100% Russian production? The most massive UAV of the Russian army flies on Japanese engines, Chinese, Swiss and American electronics and its standards.



        On the main UAV of the Russian army, the trial is just over.
        The court ruled illegal the actions of the customs, which classified the sets of components for the UAV "Outpost" as ready-made aircraft
        The Arbitration Court of the Ural District found the actions of the Yekaterinburg customs unlawful, which classified as ready-made aircraft in disassembled form sets of components for drones "Forpost", which were supplied to the Ural Civil Aviation Plant (UZGA) in 2016-2017 by the Israeli Israel Aerospace Industries (IAI)... The plant is exempted from payment of customs duties, interest and penalties, evidenced by the file of arbitration cases.
        The composition of supplies from Israel was such that, in fact, in the Russian Federation dispatched finished products disassembled... Therefore, in the opinion of the customs, the components should have been classified according to the same headings as the assembled products, and subject to the corresponding duty.

        On the latest UAV Orion.

        Austrian engine (company owner Bombardier-Canada) Rotax 914 (slightly more powerful than Turkish TV2 - 912 there).

        Sharik - an optical station formally this is NPK SPP, however, the platform is manufactured by South African DS Optronics (part of Airbas), and NPK SPP completes Argos, includes several of its components and a casing. Cause? Weight characteristics. An analogue from Russian components will be 37-45% heavier.
        1. Kart
          Kart 7 December 2020 11: 47
          -2
          The Minister of Defense and the Supreme Commander told me this.
          And it is clear not only to me, but to everyone. This goal has been announced - the Russian army should not have foreign-made equipment.
          Work on this is going on without stopping for a minute - I know personally.
          The data you provided are 5-7 years old. Everything is much better now.
          1. donavi49
            donavi49 7 December 2020 12: 05
            +7
            That is, Orion received an imaginary Russian optical station and fixed the problems with the APD-115T engine ,?

            As part of preliminary tests, we worked out the initial resource before the first repair (150 hours with a factor of 1,2) on three engines and identified a number of defectsThat before submitting engines for state bench tests, it is necessary to eliminate.


            Here, there is such a popular saying - "As soon as it flies, we'll talk." wink .
            In the meantime, in fact, the percentage of imported components and finished units in military equipment is quite high. This is not really a problem as long as it is possible to receive supplies. Over there, the same Pella has the ability to buy CATs in unlimited quantities and extract Rolls-Royce columns / water cannons and does not blow a mustache. All their products are built on this pair.
      2. gridasov
        gridasov 7 December 2020 11: 28
        +3
        Analysis and modeling on binary logic is manifested not only in the work of those who are responsible for the strategic issues of the country's security, but also in your thinking. Sometimes a couch analyst can see such nuances that are inaccessible to others. Therefore, modern trends in the development of drones are not very different from simple aircraft modeling of small and micro aviation. The technology is the same. By the way, the absence of a saw only reduces the possibility of combat and targeted use of weapons. So the tasks of using drones are based on the use of those capabilities that are beyond the ability of a person. Well, where are the capabilities of drones for high flight speeds in all space vectors with the highest maneuverability and overloads. Where are the high parameters of flight duration, etc. I believe that not many will comprehend the key task of creating new aircraft
      3. Imobile
        Imobile 7 December 2020 13: 44
        0
        And taking into account the fact that all equipment must be Russian-made
        And why should it be made in Russia? At the first stage, I even consider it harmful! It is unclear what other areas of production need to be developed. That you can invest money - but the direction will be dead end. It is better to buy and test various equipment, interaction and tactics that are available, and then implement the best at home
      4. K-36
        K-36 7 December 2020 13: 49
        +5
        Kart (Stepan), I draw your attention (however, not only yours, but also all regular readers of VO) that nickname gridasov - This is a kind of "Chinese box". I have been following this nickname for several years. Not on purpose, of course, but only when I come across his comments.
        And I came to the conclusion: under this nickname is a group of people (developers, or simply operators) accompanying a specially developed program - botIf they are scouts, then nothing more than "amateurs" (that is, not from the "professional league"). For they have already been pierced several times. For the thoughtful and corrosive, I give a hint: Subject, vocabulary, spelling... However, even a non-biased reader can easily distinguish the machine comment of this nickname from the physiological one. It is precisely the blatant "bubbles" of physical commentators, coupled with alternating machine ones, that light up this community. And there are quite a few such punctures in the practice of people who pretend to be some other. Here, for example, is A. Kuprin's story "Staff Captain Rybnikov", dated 1906. Or here's another failure, recounted by the famous Soviet intelligence officer Konan Molodoy:
        "Among us were three Englishmen, two Americans, one German, a Dane, two Irishmen, and myself, a "Canadian." We put a blanket on the grass, made a "table", drank and decided to swim. And suddenly the "Dane", first undressed, rushed from the shore into the water, dived, dived quite far and swam, imagine, with sweeping saplings, clapping his palms on the water. So only in Russia they swim. And nowhere else in the world where there are different rabbits, breaststrokes, butterfly, etc.


        We all stood on the shore, looked, did not utter a word, because I was not the only one who understood.

        I have never seen a “Dane” again in my life, and even here, at the Center, I don’t want to ask about his fate, we ask the Center little about anything
        ».
        hi
        1. Dikson
          Dikson 7 December 2020 19: 16
          +2
          You know, K-36, and I came across such a nickname in the Internet space ..- Gridasov .. and this person was kind of real, but he carried, as a rule, a very similar high-energy near-physical heresy, abundantly covered with various terms ... Maybe this is still a real person?
          1. K-36
            K-36 7 December 2020 19: 54
            +1
            Dikson (Eugene). So in my post, I kind of clearly indicated what is hidden under this nickname a group of people who have a special (as you put it high-energy near-physical heresy program - bot... And so they alternate posts from this program with their own (human). And these posts are strikingly different in style and spelling. yes
            Plus, think about what kind of Topics this nickname embeds. More attention and memory - and everyone will understand that this is "two-faced Janus".
            hi
  7. prior
    prior 7 December 2020 10: 58
    +1
    Outrageous phrase - "The Ministry of Defense appealed to the enterprises of the Russian military-industrial complex with a request to accelerate".
    The Ministry of Defense should determine the technical specification, issue money for design, development work, testing and control the timing.
    And it turns out that the Ministry of Defense is now in the role of a supplicant? Well, develop a drone for us at your own expense, please.
    And we, if we like it, if the State Duma gives money in the budget, maybe we will pay you, then ...
    "Even in church, it's not like that, it's not like that guys."
    1. Mitroha
      Mitroha 7 December 2020 11: 40
      +2
      The Ministry of Defense should determine the TOR, issue money for design, development work, testing

      Didn't you think that all this has already happened and we are talking about accelerating the completion of work?
      1. prior
        prior 7 December 2020 11: 42
        +1
        Then it should not be about acceleration, but about punishment.
        And look not in the form of a request from the Ministry of Defense, but in the form of a court decision on the proposal of the prosecutor's office.
        1. Tavrik
          Tavrik 7 December 2020 12: 00
          +1
          And who should be punished and for what? Everything is done in accordance with the schedules and guidelines of the Russian Federation. GOSTs, for example. But if the legal framework is built in such a way that nothing can be done quickly, in principle, this is the problem of the Ministry of Defense. First, they bureaucratized everything that was possible, now they ask to speed up ...
          1. prior
            prior 7 December 2020 12: 03
            +2
            Every failure, missed deadline has a first and last name.
            And the revision of the development timeline is not called a request and should not be brought up for public discussion.
        2. Krasnoyarsk
          Krasnoyarsk 7 December 2020 15: 05
          +3
          Quote: prior

          And look not in the form of a request from the Ministry of Defense, but in the form of a court decision on the proposal of the prosecutor's office.

          And what should the prosecutor's office incriminate the developer? Deliberately delaying development timeframes? And can she prove it? laughing
  8. Doctor
    Doctor 7 December 2020 11: 08
    -15%
    The same song in the sea. Boreas are doomed.

  9. Sentinel-vs
    Sentinel-vs 7 December 2020 11: 13
    +2
    Meanwhile: Russian President Vladimir Putin conferred the title of Hero of Russia on Sergei Chemezov, general director of Rostec corporation, Vedomosti newspaper reported, citing several top managers of the state corporation and a senior official from the presidential administration. According to them, the decree was signed a few weeks ago, but has not been officially published.

    Rostec declined to comment on this information. Vedomosti sent an inquiry to the President's press secretary Dmitry Peskov.
    “No such decree has been published,” he stressed, adding that this is all he can say on the issue.

    One of the sources suggested that the title of Hero of Russia could have been awarded to Chemezov for services related to reforming the system of military-technical cooperation with foreign countries.

    Sergei Chemezov - Colonel General of the FSB, full holder of the Order of Merit for the Fatherland.
  10. Ramadan
    Ramadan 7 December 2020 11: 15
    -3
    It seems to me that the Turks have a well-organized marketing component for these drones.
    Pay attention to how in a short time "Byraktar" became famous and they received orders. After all, we don't know exactly what our military men see on the monitors and there were no official direct collisions of our air defense with them, but the viewer on TV sees a clear picture of how they hit targets. And the picture is very high quality. And let's say the Anka UAV is just being launched into a series, and the Turks are already filming videos about it with suspensions for advertising as a super weapon, and it works. All this turns into live orders, and orders are salaries, taxes, etc. Ours rarely indulge their potential clients with such stories. The same "Orion" has anyone seen with suspensions in flight?
    1. Kart
      Kart 7 December 2020 11: 49
      -4
      We just start an advertising campaign for weapons that will only be available - immediately a howl starts on the Internet and hysteria about "they will deceive us again, they will not give anything", and "we must take everything away and give it to us, the right ones."
  11. Aleksey Aleksandrovich
    Aleksey Aleksandrovich 7 December 2020 11: 17
    0
    Is the light on the UAV now converging like a wedge?
    I do not argue that in the arsenal of the Armed Forces there should be strike drones of domestic production, but their importance should not be overestimated either.
    1. loki565
      loki565 7 December 2020 12: 19
      +3
      Modern UAVs have completely replaced attack aircraft, which is why such attention is paid to them
  12. OgnennyiKotik
    OgnennyiKotik 7 December 2020 11: 23
    -4
    Director of TUSAŞ (TAI) Ismayil Kotil: From December 5, 2020, the Turkish newest drone Aksungur (or in the common people Anka-2) will go into mass production.

    Briefly about the characteristics of the UAV Aksungur:

    Able to take to the skies with 12 MAM-L smart bombs (The famous Bayraktar TB-2 only 2 MAM-L bombs)

    The flight duration is from 40 hours to 60 hours.

    Flight altitude 12-13 km.

    Payload - 750 kg

    CATS optics from Aselsan for 30 km.

    Synthetic Aperture Radar / SAR / GMTI-ISAR is a new development of Aselsana.

    Communication and intelligence sensors (SIGINT). There is a satellite connection SATCOM from the Turkish Ctech.

    It uses 2 domestic TEI PD170 turbodiesel engines, with a capacity of 170 hp. up to 220 hp By the way, it surpasses the Canadian analogue of the rotax, thanks to which the continuous flight of the drone has increased to 60 hours.
    1. OgnennyiKotik
      OgnennyiKotik 7 December 2020 11: 31
      -5

      Test flight Bayraktar TB-2S

      New CATS optics and radar MIlSAR
      Satellite communication system (Satcom)
      New engine from the Turkish company TUSAS TEI (presumably PD-170).
      1. AlexeyEg
        AlexeyEg 7 December 2020 13: 17
        +1
        The more missiles on the wing, the greater the cost of its defeat, for the host country. I think the development should be in the direction of one bomb with wings .. just mighty to hang for the same 60 hours.
      2. Alexey G
        Alexey G 7 December 2020 15: 32
        0
        Yes! I just want to look at it from above and behind him and zhahnat from guns point-blank in the style of Erich Hartmann!
    2. Baal
      Baal 7 December 2020 11: 31
      +4
      It's great when 1 drone can threaten 12 targets.
      10 of these machines * 12 equals 120 targets. A very good result.
  13. 72jora72
    72jora72 7 December 2020 11: 39
    +2
    The Ministry of Defense turned to enterprises of the Russian military-industrial complex with a request to accelerate the development of domestic strike systems.
    Why would it be interesting ...
    1. Kart
      Kart 7 December 2020 11: 50
      -4
      Because you need it as quickly as possible.
      1. 72jora72
        72jora72 7 December 2020 11: 57
        +2
        Because you need it as quickly as possible.
        Yes, I understand everything, it was sarcasm.
    2. Avior
      Avior 7 December 2020 12: 06
      +3
      they suspected something smile
  14. Pavel57
    Pavel57 7 December 2020 11: 48
    -1
    I don’t remember who the quote belongs to - Shells must be made without the military.
  15. senima56
    senima56 7 December 2020 13: 38
    +4
    Until there is "personal responsibility" for a certain direction, there will be no sense!
    And the enterprises of the military-industrial complex, it seems, have nowhere to rush - money is dripping for development and good!
    For more than 10 years the space power has not been able to create an attack drone !!!
    I'm not even talking about "the best in the world, having an analogue multi-superior superior ...." Create an ordinary UAV so that it drops bombs or missiles on the heads of the bassoons!
    And the fact that we fly as "scouts" is nothing more than an Israeli "ZALA" under license.
    Shameful and insulting!
  16. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 7 December 2020 13: 51
    -3
    .Somehow, by the end of the last conflict in Karabakh, Bayraktars "unexpectedly" began to "land" and the drones calmed down ...

    Maybe they have already experienced something "orange" in real combat conditions ... In Syria, drones were landed in squadrons and it was a few years ago. The interception of the control channel can be done in two ways - by setting an interference of such a level that will not allow the original control system to transmit commands, or by transmitting false control commands (provided that they are known), again of a level higher than the original one.

    2. The supply of a pulse of such a level that a breakdown of the semiconductors in the device occurs, which leads to a failure (as, for example, during a thunderstorm, various routers and other equipment from Internet providers burn out)

    Both the first and second paths require energy expenditure. The required power is squared with the distance. This can be compensated to some extent by the size of the antennas. However, the larger the antenna, the more difficult it is to control and the easier it is to damage in response. Neither the first nor the second way is 100% reliable. Mechanical damage to the target by shrapnel, bullets, shells, shot, etc. in this case it will give a more reliable result. Electronic warfare and mechanical defeat can complement each other, but personally I would not rely only on electronic warfare. For example, in the absence of a control channel (i.e., the presence of an autonomous controller on the drone), the first method is practically useless, except to plug the GPS receiver, if there is one. At one time, radars were also considered a completely reliable means of detecting enemy aircraft, until the enemy used ordinary aluminum foil, finely cut and dropped from the aircraft. The radar station was suddenly blinded. Similarly, radars are susceptible to active interference. In general, an eternal battle of armor and a projectile, where someone constantly rushes ahead, and the second catches up. -The main danger of loitering ammunition is that they are simply taken out to the patrolling area, and then a person is not needed. Find bombs on the surface and attack it can be done without artificial intelligence. This means that such ammunition is cheap to manufacture and can be massaged. An attack by an armored vehicle from the upper hemisphere, if the crew is untrained, is a guarantee of success. It is quite easy to make such ammunition less visible. And this is really a new word in military affairs.
  17. Comrade Kim
    Comrade Kim 7 December 2020 14: 02
    0
    Quote: donavi49
    An analogue from Russian components will be 37-45% heavier.

    This is normal.
    In GA, the range in weight is 0,5 orders of magnitude (100-150 kg of imported ones against 500-650 kg of ours).
    But nothing, there are good trends. Elbruses are being introduced, and the software will be tightened up.
  18. Alexey G
    Alexey G 7 December 2020 15: 29
    +1
    Earlier, the head of the UAC, Yuri Slyusar, said that serial deliveries of heavy shock UAVs "Okhotnik" would begin in early 2024.

    In 4 years! Horror!!!! How long has it been with us !!! It looks like they will do the Corona vaccine for 10 years!
    And all this is needed now!
  19. maxim k.
    maxim k. 7 December 2020 15: 42
    -1
    Buy up, like the Azerbaijanis, on all the outskirts of the AN-2, which have not yet been cut into scrap metal, and make a "drummer" out of it.
  20. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 7 December 2020 16: 46
    +1
    Quote: maxim k.
    Buy up, like the Azerbaijanis, on all the outskirts of the AN-2, which have not yet been cut into scrap metal, and make a "drummer" out of it.

    Required laughing Only then do not be surprised wassat
  21. mortido
    mortido 8 December 2020 02: 19
    0
    We earnestly ask you ..., you can also order a prayer in the church, and what, it certainly won't be worse
  22. Chevron
    Chevron 8 December 2020 12: 09
    0
    The cry of one crying in the desert.
  23. fliger85
    fliger85 8 December 2020 12: 53
    0
    This is good, but can a UAV carry a pair of OFAB-500? And if some system fails, won't he turn to a place where there are no enemies? The pilot then sees where he is flying, and the UAV ...
  24. Chevron
    Chevron 8 December 2020 13: 01
    0
    From under the flywheel of industry, untwisted under the Soviets, but already noticeably losing momentum and badly shabby, piece-made, widely advertised products are still coming out. But, alas, she is already unable to give a start to something new. Thirty years was barely enough for the "elites" to cut the pie and swallow the fattest pieces of it, but it was not at all enough to understand, realize new challenges and, most importantly, answer them. A miracle will happen if a quick and cruel retribution can be avoided. If a miracle does not happen - then, according to the main principle of the "elite": "nationalization of losses and privatization of profits" - the skin of ordinary commoners will burn in the fire.
  25. Chever
    Chever 8 December 2020 13: 11
    0
    I certainly understand that "everyone" has it and we also need it, but why rush? Let them do everything calmly. The main thing is not to cut funding
  26. svoit
    svoit 10 December 2020 13: 41
    0
    Quote: loki565
    completely replaced stormtroopers,

    It is strange that Americans do not know about this and spend money on upgrading their warthog. Well, let them not know, we will destroy them on the ground with our shock UAVs