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If tomorrow is World War III? What does TV promise us?

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After the recent violation of the Russian maritime border by a US destroyer, discussions began to sound again on the subject of a possible outbreak of the Third World War. But everyone wants to win without a nuclear apocalypse. And that I, a simple man in the street, listening and reading the media, should think about what awaits us if a war suddenly breaks out?


Against Russia


The first thing that attracts attention: The Third World War is presented as a war of the entire progressive world against Russia alone. Other rivals of the United States and NATO are somehow not visible, except for North Korea and Iran. And that's not a fact.

We have no official associates, except for the CSTO. This fact, to put it mildly, is annoying. Again, we have only the army and the navy as allies. Against the whole world, these friends are somehow not enough!

What can our army do if we watch TV and read the Internet?

In the sky


First of all, the planes. Because aviation Is the main force in modern warfare.


Source: Russian Ministry of Defense, mil.ru

We have great planes and great pilots showing their skills in Syria. But the Russian Aerospace Forces is several times inferior in numbers to NATO countries and their allies. At the same time, we do not have technological superiority. And this is sad.


Our adversary has an air force unmatched on the planet. With a huge arsenal of precision ammunition and a huge number of cruise missiles deployed on ships and bombers. The NATO Air Force is well organized. Their main advantage is the large number of AWACS aircraft, which give superiority over opponents in air combat control.


NATO is capable of conducting large-scale air offensive operations with strategic objectives. Up to the complete suppression of air defense of entire states.

But there is a ray of hope in the confrontation with the NATO Air Force. These are the Russian air defense forces, which are the strongest on the planet. They are equipped with the most advanced air defense systems and electronic warfare systems that can interfere with the operation of AWACS aircraft and disorganize enemy interaction in defended areas. That, in theory, will give the aerospace forces an advantage in defensive battles. Exercises (without using AWACS) between Indian Su-30 and American F-15 ended in the defeat of the Americans. This fact allows us to hope for positive results in defense.

The battle for air is the most serious test for the Russian army. Air defense forces are not able to defeat the enemy, since he simply will not climb onto the missiles. And our Aerospace Forces do not have the ability to conduct an offensive air war against such an enemy. We can only shackle the actions of the enemy's aviation and thereby free the hands of the Russian ground forces.

On the ground


The ground forces are our strength and hope.

If tomorrow is World War III? What does TV promise us?

Looking at the equipment of our fighters, the eye is pleased. They have their own style, unlike anyone else. This is a good sign. Confirming that the Russian army is developing without looking back at someone, goes his own way.

The main striking force of the army is Tanks... And we have them, like in a song:

"Armor is strong, and our tanks are fast."

In Syria, Russian tanks (in particular the T-90) showed good survivability. But the basis of Russia's tank forces is made up of T-72 vehicles, which in the Chechen war (and in other conflicts), demonstrating their effectiveness on the battlefield, suffered significant losses. The T-72 is probably still weakening the Russian tank fist. Since the enemy army is equipped with the world's most advanced ATGM systems in large numbers.


And the Abrams 120mm tank guns have proven their ability to hit T-72s at decent distances. In such conditions, our tankers will have to rely more on their skill and maneuvers than on armor.


Source: Wikimedia Commons

The trump card of the Russian army is artillery. She is the god of war in Russia, and in NATO she is a means of fire support. Therefore, we have a lot of different artillery, including systems with unique characteristics. Russian artillerymen everywhere prove their high qualifications: at any exercises (joint with foreign partners, in Syria). In this branch of the army, we have, it seems, both numerical superiority, and qualitative and professional. To match our valiant artillerymen and our missilemen (with "Tochki" and "Eskanders"), turning service in the NATO army headquarters into an extremely dangerous for life. You can achieve victory with such trump cards.

Also in favor of the Russian army is great maneuverability. Since imported light equipment is heavier than medium tanks during the Great Patriotic War. Not to mention the weight of the main tanks, which ties them to good roads. And our brigades can use the dirt road.


Source: Russian Ministry of Defense, mil.ru

To summarize, the Russian ground forces have greater maneuverability, firepower, and serious strike potential. And the command in conflicts shows a fairly high level of professionalism. All the advantages, multiplied by the unique qualities of the Russian soldiers themselves, make it possible to count on the victory of the Russian troops.

In the sea


The sea is our dream and our weakness. The Navy is the type of troops in which the enemy has total superiority. Just in everything and everywhere: under water, above water (even scary to think). And in the air, in fact, there is nothing to compare.


Photo: Mass Communication Spe. 3rd Class Erwin Jacob Villavicencio Miciano / US Navy

It's not all bad. Our rockets are the best and most unique. Therefore, an attack on the Russian coast is a rather dangerous business for any enemy. Russia has very advanced nuclear submarines, which are superior to someone in some way and are among the best in the world, but our opponents are mainly the US Navy, whose nuclear submarines are at least as good as they are, but there are many times more of them. In addition, our nuclear submarines will have to overcome the most powerful and advanced anti-submarine defenses on the planet. Therefore, it is somehow unlikely to expect that we will sink convoys in the Atlantic, hunt aircraft carriers and regularly strike at decision-making centers on the other side of the ocean. The Russian Navy is unable to impose a struggle for water areas, except for the territorial waters of Russia. The nuclear submarine is probably the basis of our defensive orders in the ocean. We should not count on corvettes, do we?


Therefore, our fleet will guard our native shores. And adversaries in Europe and Asia complicate life in decision-making centers with the help of "Calibers". Moreover, even solving such problems will require courage, skill and luck.

Conclusion


As a summary. For the progressive world, a war with Russia is troublesome, risky and extremely costly. It takes a very good reason to take these costs and risks. And for Russia, to be honest, such a battle is something of little promise if we do not have a worthy ally.

Therefore, we hope that talk about the war will remain just talk for now.
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  1. The leader of the Redskins
    The leader of the Redskins 8 December 2020 12: 06
    +52
    How does the TV promise ?!
    We are in paradise.
    And they will simply die!
    No other opinion was voiced ...
    1. Bashkirkhan
      Bashkirkhan 8 December 2020 12: 15
      +36
      Of course they will die, but this is not certain repeat ... The 10 largest cities in the United States are home to about 25 million people. With a US population of 325 million, this is about 7 - 8% of the US population. And we have about 10% in Moscow alone with the suburbs. And in the 10 largest cities there are about 27,8 million, which, while the population of Russia is 146 million, is already 19%. So with the same number of attacks, we are losing much more population, about 1/5. Well, our industry is more concentrated. So the consequences for us will be much more serious.
      1. Machito
        Machito 8 December 2020 12: 29
        -1
        Quote: Bashkirkhan
        Of course they will die, but this is not certain repeat ... The 10 largest cities in the United States are home to about 25 million people. With a US population of 325 million, this is about 7 - 8% of the US population. And we have about 10% in Moscow alone with the suburbs. And in the 10 largest cities there are about 27,8 million, which, while the population of Russia is 146 million, is already 19%. So with the same number of attacks, we are losing much more population, about 1/5. Well, our industry is more concentrated. So the consequences for us will be much more serious.

        In Moscow with the suburbs there will be more than 15 million, the concentration of the population and industry makes it possible to more reliably cover them with air defense means. Today, Moscow is the most protected city in the world from air and space attacks thanks to its air defense systems.
        1. military_cat
          military_cat 8 December 2020 15: 04
          +4
          Again, we have only the army and the navy as allies. Against the whole world, these friends are somehow not enough!
          There is also the national debt and BLM.
        2. Alexey Sommer
          Alexey Sommer 8 December 2020 19: 27
          0
          Quote: Bearded
          In Moscow with the suburbs there will be more than 15 million, the concentration of the population and industry makes it possible to more reliably cover them with air defense means. Today, Moscow is the most protected city in the world from air and space attacks thanks to its air defense systems.

          They shamelessly miss you.
          But I dare to support and add.
          Air defense / missile defense systems cover not only Moscow, but also the entire central industrial region, this is the surrounding Moscow region. And covered securely.
          I will not write about other areas, so as not to waste time.
        3. NI1
          NI1 9 December 2020 06: 20
          +8
          Do not forget how an airplane landed on Red Square in Moscow and how houses with civilians exploded. Yes, it was in the capital of great Russia, the hero city of Moscow.
          Or do you think that the enemy will only throw axes? It will be possible to arrange such chaos from within that it will only remain to pray. And the air defense has nothing to do with it.

          The doomsday plane is being pulled apart by cogs under the nose of the tsarist secret police, and you are hoping for air defense. ))) This is another Sin, Miller, Medvedev and other gop-company with state secrets and bins of the Motherland did not give the dyor abroad. And after all, they will run away and surrender with giblets to the hurray-patriots.
          1. Alex777
            Alex777 12 December 2020 19: 25
            +1
            Doomsday plane being pulled apart by cogs

            Are you sure it was President's "Doomsday Plane"?
            I came across an article by the ex-commander of the SV intelligence.
            He claimed that this was the command post of the front troops.
            Therefore, there are four of them. And specifically, the victim did not fly for 4 years.
            There were no secret codes on it. Unlike the famous MiG-25. hi
        4. Reader 2013
          Reader 2013 9 December 2020 20: 42
          -1
          Guys ... Well, it has been known for 150 million years that any "detente" and "fraternization" is another round of RE-EQUIPMENT. SOYUZ broke up not because of gum and pepsikola. "Pershing" performed their role brilliantly! Flight time - 7 minutes. I had to smile. I had to make concessions. And at this time to rearm. And there was nothing to catch on the conditions of 85-88 ... Even a-135 was put on the OBD in 1994 ...
      2. El Chuvachino
        El Chuvachino 8 December 2020 13: 45
        +5
        If a world atomic mix occurs, the survivors will still envy the dead.
      3. jonht
        jonht 8 December 2020 13: 47
        +7
        And if you count, with the suburbs?
        In the same New York, they write up to 20 mil. A person lives nearby, and this is no further than 20 km from the city. And there are more such conglomerates in the states than we have. We have it Moscow and St. Petersburg .... All
      4. Ilya-spb
        Ilya-spb 8 December 2020 14: 11
        +13
        And you know, I agree with the author of the article, or rather with his conclusion: "Let the talk about the war with Russia remain talk."

        Let them talk for a hundred years. But they say. And let the guns be silent.
      5. konstantinos kontogiannidis
        konstantinos kontogiannidis 10 December 2020 12: 13
        +1
        You will finally understand that there will be no war with America .... transnational companies are fighting with the hands of states! That's who the enemy is! Capital!
      6. Artavazdych
        Artavazdych 15 December 2020 01: 18
        -1
        Passed by, accidentally saw.
        And we have about 10% in Moscow alone with the suburbs.

        New York metropolitan area - 21 million
        Los Angeles metropolitan area - 17 million
        Continue to continue?
    2. 72jora72
      72jora72 8 December 2020 12: 17
      +6
      We are in paradise.
      And they will simply die!
      Sometimes it is not the worst scenario ...
      1. Baal
        Baal 8 December 2020 13: 23
        -5
        Exit 1 to create a nuclear bomb capable of destroying not cities, but countries. Everyone needs to understand that if our country doesn’t become, their countries won’t.
        1. Nemo
          Nemo 8 December 2020 13: 48
          +7
          Any atomic bomb that can destroy a country (large enough) - this bomb can destroy a planet
        2. Alexander K_2
          Alexander K_2 12 December 2020 19: 41
          0
          Unfortunately, this bomb has already exploded, in many heads.
    3. iouris
      iouris 8 December 2020 12: 19
      +13
      Are we in paradise yet?
    4. Civil
      Civil 8 December 2020 12: 20
      +13


      Bragging and narcissism does not lead to good. In addition, the USSR had its own industry.
    5. The comment was deleted.
    6. Doccor18
      Doccor18 8 December 2020 13: 16
      +11
      What a good article ... I read it and calmed down ... The Air Force and the Navy are rather weak against NATA, but we have a lot of tanks, they value ...
      fellow
      1. Escobar
        Escobar 8 December 2020 13: 47
        +14
        Yeah, tanks will sink the enemy's fleet
        1. WapentakeLokki
          WapentakeLokki 8 December 2020 22: 46
          +3
          Well, all our tanks are equipped with snorkels (ie, a means for underwater driving) .. it's just a little thing - it will lure the mattress fleet into shallow water and attack with tanks !!!
          1. Escobar
            Escobar 9 December 2020 10: 09
            0
            Then the snorkel should not be 5 but 20 meters + wave height
            1. WapentakeLokki
              WapentakeLokki 9 December 2020 19: 05
              0
              .. well, back in 1940, the Deutsches were really preparing to force the Channel (English Channel) with their Pz.kw III ... exactly along the bottom (there was a flexible duct hose and floats) .. 80 years later, who prevents us from doing the same (yeah, start from Kaliningrad (and it's funny that Peter was renamed from Ulyanov-grad and why did all the Union headman leave ???)
              1. Alf
                Alf 9 December 2020 21: 17
                +1
                Quote: WapentakeLokki
                why did all the Union headman leave

                It will be difficult to explain to the electorate the appearance of Koenigsberg on the map of Russia.
                But Big Mustache will come up with something ...
                1. WapentakeLokki
                  WapentakeLokki 9 December 2020 21: 32
                  -3
                  yeah, and the city of St. Petersburg is bounded in the Leningrad region .. and, by the way, and there are still cities left with the names of Soviet bosses ???
                  1. zwlad
                    zwlad 12 December 2020 21: 04
                    0
                    Ulyanovsk for example.
                    1. WapentakeLokki
                      WapentakeLokki 12 December 2020 21: 24
                      0
                      ... yeah or Trotskisk !!!
    7. Svarog
      Svarog 8 December 2020 13: 36
      +21
      It takes a very good reason to take these costs and risks.

      Another opinion is that now there really are no such reasons .. Are we not financially dependent on the West, but technologically, even in the grocery sector .. Isn't import substitution failed?
      The West has achieved its goal -Russia is a gas station and resource supplier .. Why fight? I understand that if the state took a course towards the development of its own industry, science, got rid of the dollar and began to pursue an aggressive policy in the post-Soviet space, while having a different ideology of socialism from the Western ideology ... Then the West has something to think about. In this case, we would become real competitors.
      1. Poganini
        Poganini 8 December 2020 14: 39
        -23%
        While people like you are not turning bags on the Internet, a nuclear TEM of a megawatt class is being built, the first among equals has riveted a bunch of test systems and vaccines against covid, MS-21 will raise it in December. )
        1. demo
          demo 8 December 2020 15: 07
          +27
          You are not yet tired of believing the tales of our "inhabitants of heaven".
          From the moment one pepper announced that 25 million jobs would be created, I stopped taking their words.
          Just one lie.
          Remember the famous drawing - a donkey is following a carrot, which is tied to a stick, which is in the hands of the rider?
          Change the carrot.
          1. Poganini
            Poganini 8 December 2020 15: 26
            -21%
            Today is my first day and have not yet mastered the site. Therefore, I do not understand whether I have an answer or not. But most likely, me. Pepper was distinguished several times, not only by this ridiculous statement. For me personally, the most disgusting thing is how he blurted out about the castling with the LADY. Well, all smart people, everyone understands everything, but put this on the air! But you need to look integrally, and here the pepper breaks everyone like a heating pad. In foreign policy, he is just a titanium. Tavrichesky. Internally, it is rather weak, but despite the roofing felts, all the same thanks to it, and things are going well there. As it is even scary, not to jinx it. )
            1. Fan-fan
              Fan-fan 8 December 2020 17: 02
              +16
              In foreign policy, he's just a titanium.

              Where is the titanium? Crimea returned, but Ukraine lost, which of this is more expensive?
              I climbed into Syria, but where is the end of this climb? They kick us out of the Olympics, they rip off billions of dollars in fines.
              And where are our allies? Did he gain many allies? On the contrary, it loses the latter. Where are the achievements?
              1. Poganini
                Poganini 8 December 2020 17: 08
                -9
                If Ukraine had not lost, Crimea would not have returned. Here, as they said in the Union: there is no alternative - either-or. ) I personally choose Crimea. What does end of breaking mean? Where are you in a hurry? We have a lease of the base for 49 years, we will stay for a while. And then we will extend. ) Why do you need allies? They cost money. I personally do not want to help all the natives again. What for? Who else has allies in the world? Is that Israel.) Who is China's ally?
                1. WapentakeLokki
                  WapentakeLokki 8 December 2020 22: 49
                  +2
                  .. as our British friends say UNION is a relationship between a jockey and his horse ... and actually yes .. they are ALLIES !!!
                2. Cosm22
                  Cosm22 12 December 2020 23: 12
                  -2
                  If you asked Comrade Stalin in 41 why he needed allies, he would explain to you in a popular and intelligible way why.
          2. NI1
            NI1 9 December 2020 06: 23
            +9
            And what remains ?! ))) Are you sure that in Russia someone else is able to replace HIMSELF ?! Of course not! He's eternal! And if the GDP ends, Russia will end. Therefore, you need to sacredly believe the words of the Guarantor: about 25 million jobs, and about non-increase in pension, a strong ruble, a flight to Mars in 2019, the Lunar Base, the third economy in the world, the middle class with 17 tr. income, etc.

            Believe it! Otherwise, you are an agent of the State Department, an old scoop or a fan of Navalny. Your choice. ))
        2. GELEZNII_KAPUT
          GELEZNII_KAPUT 8 December 2020 15: 47
          +19
          While people like you are not turning bags on the Internet, a nuclear TEM of a megawatt class is being built, the first among equals has riveted a bunch of test systems and vaccines against covid, MS-21 will raise it in December. )

          While people like you are waving a saber, industry is buying imported equipment, peasants are buying pedigree cattle and seeds over the hill, beat yourself further! hi
          1. Poganini
            Poganini 8 December 2020 16: 15
            -20%
            Cho wanted to say something? Let’s concentrate, pull yourself together, give birth to thinking to the end. )
          2. iouris
            iouris 8 December 2020 16: 58
            +12
            Exactly. Some kind of underground noise is heard all the time: these are secret factories.
          3. savage1976
            savage1976 9 December 2020 15: 52
            0
            It should also be recalled that when in the 30s of the last century Joseph Vissarionovich did the same, he was the genius of the era who raised the country from his knees, and now the same actions are the sale of the Motherland, they call the plunder of the country.
            1. Alf
              Alf 9 December 2020 21: 20
              +2
              Quote: savage1976
              It should also be recalled that when in the 30s of the last century Joseph Vissarionovich did the same, he was the genius of the era who raised the country from his knees, and now the same actions are the sale of the Motherland, they call the plunder of the country.

              So he raised the IVS, but where did Putin put it?
              1. savage1976
                savage1976 10 December 2020 13: 58
                +2
                Did you really drop it? And with what to compare? With German troops near Moscow, or with the fact that the salary was not paid for years.
      2. Squelcher
        Squelcher 8 December 2020 15: 29
        -18%
        Can't you live without ideology as a person?
        How are we going to raise the industry? Are you ready at the construction site of production, half-stripped to the waist in the mud to work hard for an idea? Like real communists from the 30s. And not to surf the Internet, using the product of the "rotten west" personal computer and Windows or Android and broadcast what the West is backward compared to communism, although if the communists helped the decaying west to build factories all the time, from GAZ to Kamaz. Although the constant lies of the CPSU for the sake of ideology is not surprising.
        1. Svarog
          Svarog 8 December 2020 15: 56
          +7
          Quote: Squelcher
          Can't you live without ideology as a person?

          A person can live without ideology .. the state is not.
          IDEOLOGY, -and, well. A system of ideas, perceptions, concepts, expressed in various forms of social consciousness - philosophy, politics, law, morality, art, religion, and reflecting the fundamental interests of classes, social groups.

          Ideology is essentially a vector of development and the meaning and form of unification. Try to hit the enemy with one finger .. break your finger .. and if you clench all your fingers into a fist, your blow will be felt.
          1. Poganini
            Poganini 8 December 2020 16: 22
            -15%
            200 states are almost in the UN, how do they live then poor without ideology? And some are pretty good.
            1. iouris
              iouris 8 December 2020 17: 04
              +6
              Quote: Poganini
              how do they live then poor without ideology?

              One cannot live without ideology. They cannot live without electricity and heat (in cold climates) and without climate control (in hot regions). Everyone has an ideology, not everyone has minerals. But if those who have energy resources are convinced that there is no ideology, then you can get electricity practically for free.
              1. Poganini
                Poganini 8 December 2020 22: 53
                -7
                This is Australia or what? Or Norway !? )
          2. Squelcher
            Squelcher 8 December 2020 22: 39
            -5
            How sad it became with
          3. Squelcher
            Squelcher 8 December 2020 22: 45
            -5
            How sad the communists are not reading Marx.
            According to Karl Marx, ideology is a false consciousness, a perverse worldview resulting from material contradictions in the production basis of society - it expresses the specific interests of a certain class, presented as the interests of the entire society through a false consciousness. Engels notes in this connection that the state is "the first ideological force over man."

            So what is ideology? Illusion?
        2. iouris
          iouris 8 December 2020 19: 35
          +5
          Quote: Squelcher
          Can't you live without ideology as a person?

          A person becomes a person only in society. Society is made up of classes. In a class society, the ideology of the ruling class dominates, and therefore there is a class struggle against the ruling class. The dominant ideology substantiates why the class dominates, what the dominant class needs to do to maintain its dominance. The ideology of the exploited class substantiates the minimum program and the maximum program. If someone believes that he has no ideology, then he is either a declassified element, or agrees with his position (slave or dominant) and does not participate (actively) in the class (political) struggle.
          1. Squelcher
            Squelcher 8 December 2020 23: 55
            -2
            And what did not continue?
            Ideology proceeds from a certain way of cognized or "constructed" reality, is focused on human practical interests and aims to manipulate and control people by influencing their consciousness.
            Do you like being manipulated?
            It is sad that you need to be a man Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Polpot or the Fuhrer - underline the necessary.
      3. Dart2027
        Dart2027 8 December 2020 19: 13
        -3
        Quote: Svarog
        The West has achieved its goal

        Thanks to the total betrayal of the leadership of the USSR, which consists of communists.
        1. Svarog
          Svarog 8 December 2020 19: 17
          +3
          Quote: Dart2027
          Quote: Svarog
          The West has achieved its goal

          Thanks to the total betrayal of the leadership of the USSR, which consists of communists.

          These are not communists. They are traitors.
          1. Dart2027
            Dart2027 8 December 2020 19: 23
            0
            Quote: Svarog
            These are not communists. it

            So they were the Martians? Where have the communists gone?
            1. Squelcher
              Squelcher 9 December 2020 04: 15
              +1
              I have already asked him this question, only slogans are useless in the case of nothing.
              1. Dart2027
                Dart2027 9 December 2020 19: 24
                0
                Quote: Squelcher
                already asked him this question

                I'm not alone for him, but the result is always the same, that is, nothing intelligible.
    8. cniza
      cniza 8 December 2020 14: 00
      +3
      Quote: Leader of the Redskins
      How does the TV promise ?!
      We are in paradise.
      And they will simply die!
      No other opinion was voiced ...


      And why do we need this land without Russia ...
  2. Varyag71
    Varyag71 8 December 2020 12: 11
    +24
    Author, you forgot to say at the end that we have the most terrible weapon is Putin. As officials say, there will be no Putin, there will be no Russia.
    1. NDR-791
      NDR-791 8 December 2020 12: 20
      +23
      As officials say, there will be no Putin, there will be no Russia.
      So they count themselves for Russia. And we are, the tax base, resource, electorate ... in short. And they say that too.
    2. Lech from Android.
      Lech from Android. 8 December 2020 12: 29
      +15
      .
      As officials say, there will be no Putin, there will be no Russia.

      There will be no Russians there will be no Russia.
      Without the Russian People and the peoples of Russia, no Putin can stand up to Russia ... the people are always the support for the state.
      Putin comes and goes, but the people remain. hi
      1. tatra
        tatra 8 December 2020 12: 58
        +8
        But the ideology of those who have owned Russia for the last 30 years is an excuse for the invaders of Russia, the interventionists and the Nazis, and whose "elite" is pumping money out of Russia and investing it in the Russophobic West.
        1. Poganini
          Poganini 8 December 2020 14: 43
          -14%
          And right and the Nazis too? ))) Ndaa ... a difficult case ...
          1. polar fox
            polar fox 8 December 2020 18: 05
            +6
            Quote: Poganini
            And right and the Nazis too? )

            yes here on the site is full of discussions of monuments and mannergames and the Italian fascists and the red ... why be surprised then?
            1. Poganini
              Poganini 8 December 2020 18: 24
              -6
              Well, I was kind of surprised about the Nazis. What, and that was? And all these monuments were installed by those who own Russia? )
              1. Alf
                Alf 8 December 2020 20: 34
                +2
                Quote: Poganini
                And all these monuments were installed by those who own Russia? )

                With their permission. Member one monument to Krasnov erected, the public was outraged, the local authorities declared a monument in the yard, we can not do anything.
    3. Escobar
      Escobar 8 December 2020 13: 48
      +2
      The most terrible weapon against Russia.
    4. Eroma
      8 December 2020 22: 27
      0
      Putin is a Superweapon, and the article on conventional weapons is drinks
  3. Uncle lee
    Uncle lee 8 December 2020 12: 15
    +15
    talk about war will remain just talk for now
    Much like complacency!
  4. Deniska999
    Deniska999 8 December 2020 12: 17
    +4
    We have already been promised heaven, so it's not even worth discussing)
  5. tasha
    tasha 8 December 2020 12: 18
    -1
    Therefore, we hope that talk about the war will remain just talk for now.

    I support
    I don't think it's worth talking about a global world war involving dozens of states. More likely, a series of relatively minor conflicts that will destabilize the overall situation. Refugee flows, economic crises, "orange" revolutions ... And pandemics have also been added. The next decade will be eventful. Unfortunately.
    I will share my opinion. No matter what they say, no matter what they think about the global situation with COVID-19, but I'm ... glad. I feel sorry for the people who could not bear the disease, but ... I hope that a piece of ham will be cut out of this whole beastly. On the scale of an individual country - the ability to survive on your own., On your own.
  6. BIABIA
    BIABIA 8 December 2020 12: 19
    +4
    But the Strategic Missile Forces does not exist as-eh? But after them - silence ...
    1. Trapp1st
      Trapp1st 8 December 2020 12: 28
      +6
      But after them
      After them, there will be bacteriological and chemical weapons (they are in warehouses in the United States, although they promised to destroy them) and a world massacre for a couple of decades with everything possible, until everyone in Russia gets to heaven.
    2. Escobar
      Escobar 8 December 2020 13: 53
      +2
      https://topwar.ru/177721-jadernaja-illjuzija-zasteklit-protivnika-ne-poluchitsja.html это у нас тишина будет, у штатов как минимум населения в 2 раза боь и распределено оно не так скученно (большую территорию надо отбомбить)+ несравненно больший промышленный потенциал
      1. BIABIA
        BIABIA 8 December 2020 15: 26
        -3
        This is a Pyrrhic victory. After this, the same Americans, for another hundred years, will only restore their economy. And there is no need to talk about world domination. Yes, and Russia has a huge territory, everyone will not die. This hellish nightmare will throw humanity back in development for hundreds of years. There will be a bunch of infected zones, like ulcers, chaos and looting will begin. The Americans understand this, therefore they are not going to fight with Russia. Boltorez (Alex) writes about this below.
        1. Escobar
          Escobar 8 December 2020 15: 29
          +7
          You will come to some small cities here and it seems that once there was a nuclear war, the factories stood for several decades, but right now there are only walls
          1. BIABIA
            BIABIA 8 December 2020 15: 32
            +6
            About that and speech. Roughly, it's like knowing that a terminally ill man with a machine gun is sitting in a bunker. Why go there, you can just wait until he dies.
    3. Alf
      Alf 8 December 2020 20: 38
      0
      Quote: BIABIA
      But the Strategic Missile Forces does not exist as-eh?

      Will there be someone who will give the command to press the Button? The launch command can only be given by THREE people together - the President, the Chief of the General Staff and the Minister of Defense. If at least one is not there, the missiles will remain in the mines. As for the second and third, I more or less agree, but the first has a daughter in Holland ...
    4. Aag
      Aag 9 December 2020 12: 04
      +1
      Quote: BIABIA
      But the Strategic Missile Forces does not exist as-eh? But after them - silence ...

      In an article about the war by conventional means. Kak-ba utopia ... But given the mess (see yesterday's articles about the looted (?!) VZKP), I'm not sure if the launch orders will be communicated to the lower levels of control, launchers.
  7. Bolt cutter
    Bolt cutter 8 December 2020 12: 22
    +13
    And they have to fight it? All resources are already received, money flows to them, means of production to them (their citizens lol) belong. In general, they are winners.
    1. Roman070280
      Roman070280 8 December 2020 12: 54
      +2
      That's right !!
      Your blacks will have to pay more than 500 bucks to get the same thing for us on this territory ..
  8. Daniil Konovalenko
    Daniil Konovalenko 8 December 2020 12: 23
    +13
    Any war requires money, and modern warfare requires a lot of money. Does Russia have it? Not enough for retirement. Repair of damaged and release of new equipment, will the production facilities cope with this? Are you sure that all imports have been replaced?
    1. Alf
      Alf 8 December 2020 20: 38
      +5
      Quote: Daniil Konovalenko
      Similarly, all imports were replaced

      Exactly everything. All that they could was replaced with imports.
  9. rocket757
    rocket757 8 December 2020 12: 26
    0
    Air defense forces are not able to defeat the enemy,

    If the car is not just gl / U \ n, then it is just frankly LIES!
    Anyone in the know remembers what a "defense plan ...." is. easily list what and where it will fly right away! what, where and who will burn and explode !!!
    Reading such nonsense from mixed ideas, fantasies, writing and other br / E \ yes ..... a waste of time.
    1. cniza
      cniza 8 December 2020 13: 59
      +1
      Quote: rocket757

      Anyone in the know remembers what a "defense plan ...." is. easily list what and where it will fly right away! what, where and who will burn and explode !!!


      I hope our "partners" understand this, that if we start having nothing to lose ...
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 8 December 2020 14: 36
        +1
        Quote: cniza
        I hope our "partners" understand this, that if we start having nothing to lose ...

        Experts understand everything perfectly, but their politicians need completely different, convenient assessments, everything and everyone! everywhere so.
        But to lose THERE IS WHAT ALWAYS !!! But when our losses are unconditionally and corresponding, critical losses of the enemy, they also have an understanding that they have something to lose !!!
        The whole world is holding on to that, for now.
        1. cniza
          cniza 8 December 2020 15: 35
          +3
          That's just the point Ya.O. guarantees not unleashing a major war, but someone wants to break it ...
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 8 December 2020 16: 19
            0
            Quote: cniza
            Ya.O. guarantees not the outbreak of a major war, but

            Inflicting damage on the enemy and not getting an appropriate response ... that's the main reason for trying to create just such a situation, OPPORTUNITY! Powder the brains of their voters, put pressure on everyone around ...
            we have had a heavy burden to resist all this.
            We must do it, there are no other ways to be seen.
            1. cniza
              cniza 8 December 2020 16: 54
              +2
              But someone is seriously hatching such plans ...
              1. rocket757
                rocket757 8 December 2020 17: 03
                0
                Quote: cniza
                But someone is seriously hatching such plans ...

                Plans, this thing is so ... voluminous, cunning! You can really be going to implement them, but you can just throw up the babosiks for this business, and limit yourself to this.
                1. cniza
                  cniza 8 December 2020 17: 44
                  +3
                  Here, of course, there is such duality and to scare and make money, but over time this can lead to the loss of reality, God forbid.
                  1. rocket757
                    rocket757 8 December 2020 18: 19
                    0
                    The boom hopes that the very top are aware of the consequences and the armagid / C / will never come.
                    1. cniza
                      cniza 8 December 2020 21: 11
                      +2
                      God grant that they would understand ...
    2. Boa kaa
      Boa kaa 8 December 2020 14: 24
      +6
      Quote: rocket757
      If the car is not just gl / U \ n, then it is just frankly LIES!

      Victor, hi
      The author writes to the best of his understanding of the situation. He obviously did not finish "Akademiev", since he does not make a distinction between the Navy and the Navy, calling it a branch of the armed forces, and not a branch of the RF Armed Forces (as an example).
      Essentially.
      1. As a military man, I have always been interested in one slippery "political" moment: Will there be a warning shot upward or not? Shall we stun right away or give the opportunity to get scared and play back?
      What am I talking about? - On the use of nuclear weapons. You can blow up in space and say: - the next avalanche - all of you from the breadth of the Russian soul! Well, so that your head doesn't rock! But for some reason it seems to me that if it comes to nuclear warheads, then no one will joke and there will be no injections with a pin, but we will beat them with a sledgehammer at their confusion.
      2. Air defense - a ray of hope ... I am proud of our S-400/500, A-135 and other crap. But in TMV you cannot win with a "shield". And to deprive the Yankees and K * of their sword (aviation - 13232 units!) Can only be a preemptive strike at airfields and PB. The means - our MRBM and KRBD with cluster warheads., As well as concrete-piercing "cast iron" (as an option), and then tanks at airfields, or airborne assault.
      3. The author completely forgot about space. And this is reconnaissance, command control, defeat of AB, especially important launchers, etc.
      4. Land. Tanks ... And the UAV and the lessons of Syria and Karabakh? The only thing I am ready to agree with is the role of MFA in a future war. No one canceled the means of destruction. And here again the role of the UAV as the central element of the control center emerges.
      5. The sea. We are still weak. But there are glimpses in the darkness of the night. The fleet will not only "guard its native shores," as the author writes. The fleet is capable of seriously upsetting adventurers with its submarine forces. 955A, 885M, 0985.1 and 2 can solve strategic problems.
      Well, in general, proceeding from the pragmatism of the bankers and the world government, the tactics of the "pack of piranhas" will most likely be chosen against Russia, they will bite and bite off everyone who is part of the sphere of Russia's national interests.
      The article is useful in that it gives colleagues the opportunity to speak out about and without it. Thanks to the author for that. yes
      AHA.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 8 December 2020 14: 47
        -1
        Alexander soldier
        Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
        "Akademiev" he clearly did not finish

        So, on this site, the author will receive an appropriate assessment of his "works" ... I have a purely interes, he is a provocateur \ pus / T \ mistletoe or really ... not smart?
        Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
        As a military man, I have always been interested in one slippery "political" moment:

        Honestly, only these slippery, muddy moments excite me ... I don't know, I'm not sure and others are NOT !!! And the military people SHOULD NOT have them by definition!
        Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
        Sea. We are still weak.

        We have a lot where not quite, not everything, or even nothing .... BUT, we have the fundamental, we CAN !!! answer anyone, crushingly!
        We stand on that, that's why they stand too ...
        1. Eroma
          14 December 2020 19: 43
          0
          "So, on this site, the author will receive an appropriate assessment of his" works "... I have a purely interes, he is a provocateur \ pus / T \ mistletoe or really ... is not smart?"

          what is the provocation? hi Or do you think that with any mixing they will immediately grab a nuclear club? unleashing a nuclear apocalypse is not for the faint of heart! for example, if NATO decides to invade Belarus and overthrow Old Man, is it an automatic nuclear war?

          We have a lot where not quite, not everything, or even nothing .... BUT, we have the fundamental, we CAN !!! answer anyone, crushingly!
          We stand on that, that's why they stand too ...

          output shine, it says cool! good but the army is still armed with conventional weapons, probably counting on something?
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 14 December 2020 19: 56
            0
            The discussion is over, because there is nothing to discuss.
  10. Woodman
    Woodman 8 December 2020 12: 29
    +3
    The Third World War is presented as a war of the entire progressive world against Russia alone. Other rivals of the United States and NATO are somehow not visible, except for North Korea and Iran. And that's not a fact.
    Somehow they modestly forgot about China ... Either it was classified as a "progressive world", or "lowered" below North Korea.
    1. Trapp1st
      Trapp1st 8 December 2020 12: 33
      +13
      They somehow modestly forgot about China ...
      China will be glad to be forgotten, from the NATO VS Russia massacre the main beneficiary is China.
      1. Woodman
        Woodman 8 December 2020 12: 58
        +3
        Quote: Trapp1st
        China will be glad to be forgotten

        Not only China will be happy to stay out of the conflict. By hook or by hook, both the CSTO countries and most NATO countries will try to stay away from the conflict. The only question is who exactly will be allowed to stay on the sidelines.
        1. Trapp1st
          Trapp1st 8 December 2020 13: 08
          +1
          By hook or by hook, both the CSTO countries and most NATO countries will try to stay away from the conflict.
          The CSTO will merge as soon as it smells fried, NATO can take part, European values ​​and Asian barbarians are all that. But in any case, it is not the United States or Europe that will benefit from all this, but China.
          1. Alf
            Alf 8 December 2020 20: 52
            +1
            Quote: Trapp1st
            But in any case, it is not the United States or Europe that will benefit from all this, but China.

            You might think that the PRC lives on another planet ..
    2. kit88
      kit88 8 December 2020 13: 45
      +8
      Quote: Lesovik
      They somehow modestly forgot about China ...

      How is it forgotten?
      Here it is, in the most important conclusion of the article:
      ... And for Russia, to be honest, such a battle is something of little promise, if we don't have a worthy ally.
    3. Eroma
      8 December 2020 22: 41
      +2
      Does China need it? Does the world need to grapple with China and Russia at once? And about the union of the two countries, both sides are silent
  11. TAMBU
    TAMBU 8 December 2020 12: 39
    +1
    one hope for the Strategic Missile Forces
  12. Connor MacLeod
    Connor MacLeod 8 December 2020 12: 40
    0
    For me, the only way to defeat this Armada is to neutralize the Americans' satellite constellation - to blind, drown out or physically destroy. Then take advantage of the enemy's temporary confusion in order to inflict unacceptable losses on him. At the same time, it is advisable to try to keep your own satellite constellation, or at least to duplicate its functions using terrestrial communication and radio navigation systems, etc., etc.
    1. Roman070280
      Roman070280 8 December 2020 12: 57
      0
      way to win
      blind, drown out or physically destroy
      take advantage of temporary confusion
      inflict unacceptable losses on him
      it is advisable to try to keep your own


      Do you have a plan, Mr. Fix ??
      It's easier not to invent - to defeat them, but to save yourself ..))
      1. Connor MacLeod
        Connor MacLeod 8 December 2020 13: 13
        +1
        "The more ingenious your plan, the fewer people will agree with it.“- Sun Tzu

        Source: https://ru.citaty.net/avtory/sun-tszy/
        1. Roman070280
          Roman070280 8 December 2020 13: 35
          0
          Yes, I just agree with this plan - to kill everyone, and survive by ourselves .. Great idea ..))
          1. Connor MacLeod
            Connor MacLeod 8 December 2020 13: 44
            +2
            But if you seriously need to prepare. Biden's future administration is crammed with globalists. In the very near future, clashes between the RF Armed Forces and NATO are possible. Middle East, Africa, Caribbean - anywhere it can blaze ...
      2. Revival
        Revival 8 December 2020 15: 17
        +3
        "My coaching installation is very simple, you have to score goals for everyone, the goalkeeper should hit all the balls" (c).))
  13. Roman070280
    Roman070280 8 December 2020 12: 51
    +3
    As a summary. For the progressive world, a war with Russia is troublesome, risky and extremely costly.


    And most importantly - unnecessary ..
    The progressive world is already picking up a lot of heat from Russia with our own hands ..
  14. Andre___86
    Andre___86 8 December 2020 12: 52
    +5
    What is the article about? Hurray. We are fine? Can't you defeat us so easily? Faith in the party is falling or what?
    "" "Looking at the equipment of our fighters, the eye is pleasing. They have their own style, unlike anyone else. This is a good sign. Confirming that the Russian army is developing without looking back at someone, goes its own way." ""
    And a photo of fighters with 60% Western equipment. If only they cited the warrior as an example ...
    1. Alf
      Alf 8 December 2020 20: 53
      +1
      Quote: Andre___86
      "" "Looking at the equipment of our fighters, the eye is pleasing. They have their own style, unlike anyone else. This is a good sign. Confirming that the Russian army is developing without looking back at someone, goes its own way." ""

      Sneakers on the left look especially great, very "regular" shoes ...
  15. orcinus
    orcinus 8 December 2020 12: 55
    +5
    The editorial board is on vacation, judging by the content of articles over the past few days
  16. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
    Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 8 December 2020 13: 04
    +8
    What does TV promise us?

    poor fellow, turn off the drawer ...
  17. 7,62h54
    7,62h54 8 December 2020 13: 06
    +8
    VKS, army, navy are nothing apart from the population. And if something is being done for the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, at least in a blue eye they say about it, then in Civil Defense you can put a solid two.
  18. Mikhail3
    Mikhail3 8 December 2020 13: 10
    +5
    The only and unique "friend" of Russia at the moment is our Strategic Missile Forces. And it doesn't even matter whether the missiles will fly somewhere or not. It is enough just to lift them a kilometer or two and blow them up there. Or not even lift, just put it next to the mines. The planet will be sterilized. If not for this ...
    The question is not even in our current situation, but in dynamics. If you take an unbiased look at exactly where we are going ... we have never had SO bad. Even when Ivan the Terrible went out against the Hansa alone. The army was poorly armed, small in number, but the Spirit was. Russian, yeah. Now the Russian spirit is officially prohibited. Now we have "dear Russians". And then look Sechin will be offended. So that ....
  19. spolo
    spolo 8 December 2020 13: 17
    +3
    After World War 3, with a nuclear component, America will at best be like some kind of Portugal, both in terms of population and GDP ... If not a desert a la Mad Max ... but its human shield in the face of all sorts of Poland and England it's not at all a fact that they will survive ...
  20. Ros 56
    Ros 56 8 December 2020 13: 26
    0
    Why did you all start crying today, now Mokhov, now Eremushkin. Everything is gone, the plaster is removed, the client leaves. For a thousand years Russia has already disappeared and will not disappear in any way, only from time to time it weighs one, then another on musals. Yes, it costs a lot, people are dying, but children and grandchildren do not disappear.
    1. Alf
      Alf 8 December 2020 20: 56
      -1
      Quote: Ros 56
      For a thousand years Russia has already disappeared and will not disappear in any way, only from time to time it weighs one, then another on the musals.

      Yes, yes, but there was no vigorous loaf then.
  21. pereselenec
    pereselenec 8 December 2020 13: 38
    -2
    Looking at the equipment of our fighters, the eye is pleased. They have their own style, unlike anyone else. This is a good sign. Confirming that the Russian army is developing without looking back at someone, goes his own way.


    Why, then, the real Russian special forces, who have passed everything - from the first Chechnya to Syria and the Donbass (who are Veter and Rsotm, I think there is no need to explain to the one who is in the subject), say that there is trouble with the crew, complain about the absence of their tradition and complain that everyone , even our MTRs dress, imitating Americans, so that it was "beautiful"?



  22. Escobar
    Escobar 8 December 2020 13: 45
    -2
    It's not all bad. Our rockets are the best and most unique.
    read an article on VO about the problems of long-range missile guidance. https://topwar.ru/176421-morskaja-vojna-dlja-nachinajuschih-problema-celeukazanija.html for example, the point that to aim a hypersonic dagger next to the AUG, a 20 turboprop must hang, and the target, while the rocket is flying, is not should move so that when the rocket reaches the area of ​​its location, the homing head does not lose the target. TV hangs a lot of noodles. It is necessary to report on the spent lard rubles to taxpayers
  23. xomaNN
    xomaNN 8 December 2020 13: 52
    +1
    In the conclusions section, it would be appropriate to say:
    After several days (if not hours!) Of potential US + NATO battles against the Russian Federation, the paragraph of the Russian strategy providing for a "nuclear missile strike" will surely come into force.

    And .... - goodbye everyone hi
  24. Knell wardenheart
    Knell wardenheart 8 December 2020 14: 00
    +2
    Incomparable quantities. And "the whole world" will vryatli fight against the Russian Federation - enough is the United States with the WB in the West and Japan in the East. You can even leave out Japan (although it is a potential interest).
    Now we quite naturally approached, thus, a very simple idea - for the defense of our forces, probably enough. We can certainly increase them quantitatively and qualitatively, but taking into account also the incomparable volumes of our economies with the economy of the same USA, this would be an endless race to delay the inevitable, with an ever-increasing gap in a wide range of other (and these also) parameters. And the conclusion coming out of this, thus - our defense capability will steadily decrease - if we invest in it - a little slower, if we don’t - a little faster. To overcome this trend, we need to tackle the establishment of order within the country, improvement of the business climate, new industrialization and the involvement in the development of the country of all the money that is now going offshore or spent on overconsumption.
    If we do not direct these gigantic resources to the systematic strengthening of the economy / industry / living standards and living conditions of the population, to education and health care, to increase the efficiency of management, etc., our defense industry will not have sufficient funds for all these bells and whistles, available funds within this system will also be spent inefficiently, production times will be shifted due to degradation of industry - and in the end we will be "covered" by a sudden war, for which we, as usual, are never ready. Only taking into account modern means of destruction, intelligence, our industry and demography - this will be the last war in our history.
    So I will summarize - at the moment in defense we can still be dangerous for potential opponents. In the offensive, we are no longer dangerous for a long time (I mean strategic operations). However, this trend shows a deterioration - which, most likely in 30 years, will not allow us to hold the territories we have with such efficiency. If we devote 20 years to internal affairs and establishing order within the country, we can in the future pay more funds and attention to defense, with greater efficiency. In other cases, we will face the inevitable technological-time-budgetary stagnation of the defense order, with all that it implies.
  25. kill the fascist
    kill the fascist 8 December 2020 14: 08
    -1
    As long as our nuclear triad is competitive, lubricated and combat-ready, and the bulk of the Alesha did not come to power, we can live in peace. No overseas thief will come to us - for the victory, if they get it, will come at a very high price.
    1. Aag
      Aag 9 December 2020 12: 36
      0
      Quote: kill the fascist
      As long as our nuclear triad is competitive, lubricated and combat-ready, and the bulk of the Alesha did not come to power, we can live in peace. No overseas thief will come to us - for the victory, if they get it, will come at a very high price.

      Do you have an idea of ​​the state of the triad?
  26. AML
    AML 8 December 2020 14: 10
    0
    World War 3 will not begin with a direct clash between the United States and Russia. I think it will be something like this.
    Poland will attack Ukraine and seize "its former" territories. Eastern Ukraine will say yes choke on these territories along with your Nazis. Russia will be silent because it does not concern it. Then between Poland and Ukraine peace agreements will be quickly concluded, as a result of which Poland will retain its territory, but will promise Ukraine to return the DPR and LPR. And here Russia will begin to wonder whether it is worth helping and getting involved in a war with a NATO country or, as usual, declaring that the DPR and LPR are Ukraine. RSVN will remain silent because both countries are nuclear-free. But he will drive the army to the borders in any case. Inside Japan, a political confrontation "will begin" between those who are for and against the violent return of the Kuriles. RSVN will be silent. But another part of the troops will go east. At the same time, Georgia wants to return Ossetia. And part of the troops went there.
    Then Romania, Hungary, Bulgaria and possibly Turkey begin to rip apart Ukraine. Here Russia will certainly intervene.

    And what about NATO? NATO is nothing. These are your territorial claims and decide for yourself. The UN will pretend to be in shock and madly rolling its eyes to say, "Well, what are you? You can't do that." Of course the armies will be fed by Western "volunteers" and PMCs

    This is how a herd of sheep can stutter a bear, but RSVN and s400 / 500 will be silent, because there is no one for whom.
  27. flicker
    flicker 8 December 2020 14: 11
    -3
    Therefore, it is somehow unlikely to expect that we will sink convoys in the Atlantic, hunt aircraft carriers and regularly strike at decision-making centers on the other side of the ocean.
    Quite right, not only unlikely, but also hopeless.
    ---
    It is much more likely that we will create a strait in the United States. Comrade Stalin.
    I think he will impress our "partners". bully
  28. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 8 December 2020 14: 18
    -1
    If I go to the store! If we win, I can perform police functions on the territory of the surrendered enemy, if, of course, he will have territory.
  29. Suhow
    Suhow 8 December 2020 14: 20
    +3
    The army, navy, air force, air defense, this is good, but in addition to this, in my opinion, it is necessary to take into account resources, both production (production volume, specialists and TD) and mobilization, losses will be very large, partners in this regard will be better than RF, plus additional cannon fodder from the former Soviet Republics, which partners do not particularly value. As a result, the Russian Federation will lose its own, and partners unnecessary. No offense for comparison, but similar to the situation in the Reich in World War II.
  30. AleBors
    AleBors 8 December 2020 14: 44
    +3
    Why fight with us? It is costly and troublesome. The adversary just needs to wait, and we ourselves will fall apart, and our "elites" will finally transfer everything to external management.
  31. Radikal
    Radikal 8 December 2020 14: 55
    +2
    Quote: Poganini
    While people like you are not turning bags on the Internet, a nuclear TEM of a megawatt class is being built, the first among equals has riveted a bunch of test systems and vaccines against covid, MS-21 will raise it in December. )

    Hooray. sad You are good. lol
  32. martin-159
    martin-159 8 December 2020 15: 19
    0
    Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
    3. The author completely forgot about space. And this is reconnaissance, command control, defeat of AB, especially important launchers, etc.

    Are we all right with space?
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    2. Alf
      Alf 8 December 2020 21: 02
      -2
      Quote: martin-159
      Are we all right with space?

      Everything is fine, even Rogozin began to sing. And the statistics "began to sing" ..


      1.2019th year
      2.2020th year
  33. for
    for 8 December 2020 15: 23
    +2
    If there is 3, it will not be with the United States and not nuclear. They don't need to fight on their own, others will do it. At the moment, Turkey is suitable for this role.
  34. Fitter65
    Fitter65 8 December 2020 16: 33
    0
    Our adversary has an air force unmatched on the planet. With a huge arsenal of precision munitions and a huge number of cruise missiles deployed on ships and bombers. The NATO Air Force is well organized.
    I don’t want to be branded as a quack-quack-patriot and hap-hanger, but it is always this "BUT", let's remember the spring of 1999. Yes, the end of March 1999 when NATO decided with impunity (they thought so) to bomb Yugoslavia into the Stone Age. What was the ratio by aircraft? Well, at the beginning the blue (the color of the NATO flag) had 282 aircraft !!! Two hundred and eighty two combat-ready aircraft, against the 30 (THIRTY) MiG-21 and 5 (FIVE) MiG-29s, which were in the SFRY Air Force, later the blue brought the number of their Air Force to 639 (an increase of 122%). So they fight not by number, but by skill. Yes, with their numbers, the gays could not do anything, but with the ability to bribe the "elite" of the country with which they are fighting, they won ...
  35. Cherry Nine
    Cherry Nine 8 December 2020 17: 28
    +3
    Some kind of really murzilo products went.
    In the sky

    There's nothing to talk about at all.
    These are the Russian air defense forces, which are the strongest on the planet. They are equipped with the most advanced air defense systems

    Several times in recent years, air defense of Russian origin has shown itself. No gate every time.
    Exercise (without using AWACS) between Indian Su-30 and American F-15 ended in defeat of the Americans

    Problems for Americans arise in cannon fights, nothing else. Their tactics do not involve cannon fights.
    can only hamper the actions of the opponent's aviation

    How's that?
    Looking at the equipment of our fighters, the eye is pleased.

    A Russophobe. One or two battalions of polite people for the TV picture. The rest is poverty. But even if you understand these battalions properly, there are holes.
    To summarize, the Russian ground forces have greater maneuverability, firepower, and serious strike potential. And the command in conflicts shows a fairly high level of professionalism. All the advantages, multiplied by the unique qualities of the Russian soldiers themselves, make it possible to count on the victory of the Russian troops.

    If we summarize everything, then in 2008 the conditional 58A against one American division - not a single Khrulev would have left alive. Even an incomplete American division.
    Therefore, we hope that talk about the war will remain just talk for now.

    Russia is fighting almost without a break. Another thing is that she has little overlap with the Americans. And, in general, he does the right thing.
    1. Korax71
      Korax71 8 December 2020 19: 21
      0
      Do you think you could have gone through the Roki Tunnel painlessly? wassat
      1. Cherry Nine
        Cherry Nine 8 December 2020 21: 56
        0
        Something anti-bunker would have flown into the tunnel in the second minute of rock and roll. Those who stayed on this side - well, lucky, those who are not - are not.
        1. Korax71
          Korax71 8 December 2020 22: 42
          0
          Here somewhere in this area our thoughts converge drinks all the more knowing in practice the whole internal kitchen at 08.
  36. Old26
    Old26 8 December 2020 17: 48
    0
    Quote: BoA KAA

    1. As a military man, I have always been interested in one slippery "political" moment: Will there be a warning shot upward or not? Shall we stun right away or give the opportunity to get scared and play back?
    What am I talking about? - On the use of nuclear weapons. You can blow up in space and say: - the next avalanche - all of you from the breadth of the Russian soul! Well, so that your head doesn't rock! But for some reason it seems to me that if it comes to nuclear warheads, then no one will joke and there will be no injections with a pin, but we will beat them with a sledgehammer at their confusion.

    This question, Alexander, worries everyone. And alas, we do not know the answer to it ...

    Quote: BoA KAA
    2. Air defense - a ray of hope ... I am proud of our S-400/500, A-135 and other crap. But in TMV you cannot win with a "shield". And to deprive the Yankees and K * of their sword (aviation - 13232 units!) Can only be a preemptive strike at airfields and PB. The means - our MRBM and KRBD with cluster warheads., As well as concrete-piercing "cast iron" (as an option), and then tanks at airfields, or airborne assault.

    Yes, a ray of hope. And a shield. But wars are not won with a shield either. If everything is fine with the PVO system, then the missile defense system, alas, is clearly inoperative. A-135 has only the second, atmospheric echelon. And the missile defense system is incapable of intercepting a more or less serious blow. EMNIP A-135 is capable of intercepting 16 paired targets. That is, in fact, 32 blocks. And 32 blocks are 4 "Tridents" loaded up to the level of 8 BB
    We certainly have CRBD. The question is that the number of their carriers is very small. And aviation, and even more so in the navy. If in aviation there are products of the X-10/102 type, then in the navy there is nothing of the kind. There are not so many carriers of "Caliber". And the MRBM - only in the future. And even then, there will be a dilemma. What to do. re-equip the Strategic Missile Forces and the Navy or rivet the MRBM ...

    Quote: BoA KAA
    3. The author completely forgot about space. And this is reconnaissance, command control, defeat of AB, especially important launchers, etc.

    There, too, everything is far from unambiguous. the same "Liana" cannot be finished to a working state. "lotuses" were launched in the amount of 4 pieces, and "Peony" for three years already "did not shmogla"
    A grouping capable of tracking AB does not essentially work

    Quote: Poganini
    While people like you are not turning bags on the Internet, a nuclear TEM of a megawatt class is being built, the first among equals has riveted a bunch of test systems and vaccines against covid, MS-21 will raise it in December. )

    Let's first raise MS-21 in December, and then we'll talk about victories. Vaughn Il-112V once again postponed the flight

    Quote: TAMBU
    one hope for the Strategic Missile Forces

    There is hope. But so far not everything is as good as we would like. The new technology, of course, is coming, but the advertised "Sarmat" has been lost for two years already.

    Quote: Connor MacLeod
    For me, the only way to defeat this Armada is to neutralize the Americans' satellite constellation - to blind, drown out or physically destroy. Then take advantage of the enemy's temporary confusion in order to inflict unacceptable losses on him. At the same time, it is advisable to try to keep your own satellite constellation, or at least to duplicate its functions using terrestrial communication and radio navigation systems, etc., etc.

    Here or or. It is possible to try to neutralize the enemy's satellite grouping quickly only with the use of the same nuclear weapons. But an explosion in space will lead to the destruction or at least neutralization of our satellite constellation. And we will not be able to destroy with conventional weapons due to the banal lack of funds and infrastructure.
  37. exo
    exo 8 December 2020 21: 57
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    Quote: Bashkirkhan
    Of course they will die, but this is not certain repeat ... The 10 largest cities in the United States are home to about 25 million people. With a US population of 325 million, this is about 7 - 8% of the US population. And we have about 10% in Moscow alone with the suburbs. And in the 10 largest cities there are about 27,8 million, which, while the population of Russia is 146 million, is already 19%. So with the same number of attacks, we are losing much more population, about 1/5. Well, our industry is more concentrated. So the consequences for us will be much more serious.

    We have little chance. With such superiority of NATO in the air and space, which will only grow, and our technological lag, in the light of the sanctions, will deepen.
  38. WapentakeLokki
    WapentakeLokki 8 December 2020 22: 53
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    Quote: polar fox
    Quote: Poganini
    And right and the Nazis too? )

    yes here on the site is full of discussions of monuments and mannergames and the Italian fascists and the red ... why be surprised then?

    and what about the Italians for more details ... I missed something, no ... and who is a candidate for immortalization in bronze and where..I think Valerio Borghese in Sevastopol will be in place..ga opposite the board with sunken Novorossiysk (Giulio Cesare) will be is it ... or not ???
  39. hermit
    hermit 9 December 2020 00: 17
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    Is this article such subtle sarcasm?
  40. noname1117
    noname1117 9 December 2020 00: 52
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    The main thing that is forgotten in this kind of comparison is geography. Half of NATO's forces are the US Army, it is 95% based, oddly enough, in the US, and the deployment will take months. The notorious 13000 planes, and even a quarter of them, are physically impossible to place near our border - in Poland there will simply not be enough airfields, and the infrastructure will not provide material support. Still everyone forgets that for most of NATO this war did not give up for nothing and many countries will simply leave the alliance, at most they will be limited to some symbolic brigade.
    And the funniest thing in this situation is that according to American studies, we take the Baltic states with 100% probability in 60 hours, and analysts of the British Armed Forces have officially announced the need to return cluster bombs to combat our artillery. And only our patriots take Moscow on the second day ...
  41. Ros 56
    Ros 56 9 December 2020 09: 35
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    Yes, I read the comments, at least wrap yourself in a sheet and head towards the cemetery. And then there is the news about the doomsday plane robbery, which does not fit into any gate at all, is it really that bad, but what about Syria, but what about Petrel and others and so on, or, as usual, alarmists panic, and the soldiers are digging trenches.
  42. victor50
    victor50 9 December 2020 10: 58
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    "They are equipped with the most advanced air defense systems and electronic warfare systems,"
    Syria (Israeli raids) and Karabakh showed that things are far from rosy. And the "ineptitude" of users, in my opinion, is not the only factor.
  43. Bersaglieri
    Bersaglieri 9 December 2020 13: 30
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    The war with Russia is a nuclear war. Therefore, it will not be. The Strategic Missile Forces is the stronghold of the world.
  44. DWG1905
    DWG1905 9 December 2020 15: 25
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    My pessimistic conclusion on the basis of the state of affairs, in which case we will take it out like in the Crimean War. It is naive to think that if everything is not very good in the Aerospace Forces or the Navy, then in the Strategic Missile Forces all the way, the average level is approximately the same everywhere, miracles do not happen. Everything is based on the half-dead military-industrial complex. The only joy besides the USA, there are no other fighters in NATO. Turkey, I think, will not fight with us, we will give them Libya with Cyprus. If we take this issue seriously, we must tackle the destabilization of the collective “West”. It is necessary to support the just demands of African Americans, Irish, Catalans and whoever else was infringed upon. Naturally, through third hands, you can come up with an international of oppressed peoples, violent there will be. It is also necessary to help the brotherly Iranian people. And in Europe, emigrants are oppressed, this is generally outrage. After all, the USSR was engaged in organizing the national liberation struggle not only for ideological reasons, but most likely purely from pragmatic ones. To help the formation of new large and small centers of power. To support the greens (they are for sale), we will give them requirements for transferring BTT to electric traction (you can use solar panels), airplanes to bio fuel, closing heat, hydro and nuclear power plants, etc. In a straight line "west" can not be overcome, you need an Asian cunning. After all, the Poles consider us the most Western Asians, maybe they are right.
  45. businessv
    businessv 9 December 2020 19: 31
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    Therefore, we hope that talk about the war will remain just talk for now.
    Trust in God, but don't do it yourself! Thanks for the article, namesake, it was interesting to read and understand that this battle will not do without the use of our "nuclear shield", unfortunately.
  46. TOR2
    TOR2 9 December 2020 22: 41
    +1
    In his article the author focuses on the old type of wars. The front line is a huge amount of equipment and people. At one time, behind a puddle, a concept of a new type of war was developed and a cruise missile was its first sign. Perhaps the creators of the concept did not even imagine that their brainchild could easily turn against its creators. "Petrel" is a continuation of this concept. The discussions discussed the population density in the vicinity of New York and how many will die in a nuclear fire. What for? Completely different objects are attacked, further chaos and the authorities themselves will shoot at their own people. What kind of conduct of hostilities outside can be said in such a situation. The underwater robot saboteur is another new type of war tool. Well, he will cut the cable at a depth of 5 km. tsunami he will not say this skeptics. Will be. Only a financial tsunami. And it will cover very well. And in the end, after what period of time vital facilities in Europe will be put out of action in case of a mess. The servants who wear dresses are no longer up to the whim of the owner.
  47. Chervonny
    Chervonny 9 December 2020 23: 24
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    If tomorrow is World War III? What does TV promise us?

    A lot of different things and everything, plus the light at the end of the tunnel from Vanga ...
  48. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 10 December 2020 05: 35
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    laughing No, we will destroy what they love the most, money. After that, the above will be just rubbish.