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The tale of how the Russian Federation abandoned the dollar

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I think that all VO readers have heard about import substitution and de-dollarization. After all, only the washing machine and the iron are silent about this today. While all other electrical appliances broadcast about this almost daily.


Although, in all honesty, with import substitution in our Fatherland it turned out somehow awkward. After all, Russia for as much as 18 years has been striving in a completely different direction: not to isolate itself, but to effectively integrate into the world economy, by joining the World Trade Organization, that is, the WTO.
Maybe this process would have dragged on longer, but only the elites accelerated it as much as possible, believing that our country's accession to the WTO would give us a considerable advantage.

Russia in the WTO


Why did we have to go there?

Economic theory explains the utility of the WTO as follows. In competition, the most effective will be the one who can produce the best quality product at the lowest cost. Quality will ensure demand, and low cost - high profit that can be invested in the creation of a new, even better quality product. And get a competitive edge again. Accordingly, there is no point in trying to produce the entire range of goods needed by society in a single country. It is better to introduce specialization, in which each power will focus on those groups of goods that they get best. Then other countries will also buy such products. And with the money earned from their sale, you can buy foreign goods that are not produced in our country. Accordingly, with this approach, it will turn out that people all over the world will be able to get the very best that can be produced.

In general, in theory, the WTO is an excellent thing. And our entry there in August 2012 was broadcast to us as a great victory for Russian diplomacy. But only bad luck - after only three years, in August 2015, it was necessary to create a state commission for import substitution at the highest level, headed by the Chairman of the Government of the Russian Federation.

Somehow unexpectedly (for our leadership) it turned out that free trade is such a thing that does not apply to countries that dare to conduct an independent foreign policy and oppose the center of democracy around the world. And the Russian Federation - dared and spoke. And, of course, it immediately became clear that supporting a coup d'etat in Ukraine is very democratic. But giving the population of Crimea the opportunity to vote for which country they want to live in is just the height of despotism, authoritarianism and other brazen defiance of Western values. Which, as you know, are the best that a reasonable person can only strive for.

In general, the sanctions began. And it became clear that we do not fit into the world market at all. And if we fit in, then with certain features. That is, what the Americans and the West need from us, they buy. And what is not necessary - they are trying to disrupt the deal (direct pressure from the United States on potential buyers from our weapons is an example of this). And at the same time, far from everything that we need, they are ready to sell to us. Awareness of this (generally simple) truth led us to the need to support our own sectors of the real sector of the economy.


In this regard, sanctions for the Russian Federation have become an absolute boon. The problem is that the victory of Russian diplomacy in the form of joining the WTO threatened to turn into a total defeat for our industry. For one very simple economic reason. Even if we imagine that the WTO is a crystal-fair organization (although the fact that some WTO members are much more “even” than others is well known), then its usefulness is based on the concept of fair competition. Which implies the well-known equality of the initial conditions. The availability and cost of investment loans, for example.

And it was clear to anyone who had even the smallest relation to production that, having survived the "wild 90s" and somehow recovered in the early 2000s, our industry is far from being on an equal footing with the western one. For example, the same more or less affordable investment loans appeared in our country closer to 2010 (more precisely, to 2008). But the crisis that broke out that year put an end to them. And the banks recovered closer to 2010. Moreover, at a price and on terms from which any Western businessman will immediately hang himself on the nearest aspen.

In other words, before entering the WTO, it was necessary to first modernize production. And what is characteristic, all the countries that are successful in the WTO did just that. But the leadership of the Russian Federation did not want to think about it. Although the warnings were sounded more than once.

In the period 2012–2014, the WTO has not yet hit us too hard. Because then there was a grace period for us. But it’s scary to imagine what would come with its end. But it didn't happen. There would be no happiness, but misfortune helped. And, in general, all is well that ends well.

No, Russia is still a WTO member. But then political nuances arose. For example, support for agriculture, which is carried out today within the framework of the import substitution policy, generally speaking, is not at all in the spirit of the WTO. And could be challenged by its members. But we are already under sanctions. So the Western world has obviously decided not to squeeze. And he closed his eyes to it. The same, in essence, applies to other import substitution programs.

So all that remains is to say a huge thank you to the United States and Western countries. For the fact that with their sanctions they suggested to our president at least some correct direction of domestic economic policy. Thank you so much dear ones. Well, not comrades, of course. But nonetheless.

Well, what is the result of our accession to the WTO today? It turned out something like the following. By entering the WTO, we counted on obtaining foreign technologies, facilitating trade, settling disputes for our exporters and attracting capital from foreign investors. For this, we sacrificed a certain part of customs duties (that is, we reduced them), thereby ensuring unfair competition between foreign and domestic goods.

And what happened as a result? The sanctions imposed in 2014 cut off our access to the many technologies we were counting on. There have never been foreign investments in our country. And there are two reasons for that.

What investor, making dollar investments in ruble production, wants to wake up one (far from perfect) morning and find out that the ruble has fallen by a factor of 100? And with it - and the cost of the business in dollar terms? Let me explain with a very simple example. Suppose I am a foreign bourgeoisie, I took and invested $ 30 thousand in the Russian Federation, creating a small bakery. With a dollar exchange rate of 3 rubles per dollar, it will cost 60 million rubles. And the next day, the exchange rate collapsed, and the dollar began to cost 3 rubles per dollar. And my bakery (selling bread for rubles) costs the same 50 million rubles. But even if I can sell it at this price (which is extremely doubtful during the crisis), then I can only get back XNUMX thousand dollars. That is, half the amount invested.

The second reason is sanctions. Which, of course, do not at all improve the investment rating of the Russian Federation.

Today all investments in the Russian Federation can be divided into 3 categories. Investments in the production of oil and gas (which foreigners used to do quite readily before) - this time. The second is "screwdriver" production, which is not too dependent on the ruble exchange rate. Simply because, along with the rise in the exchange rate, the cars assembled at such industries will rise in price. The third is speculative capital for playing at the rates of our currency and securities. (That is, it cannot be attributed to investments at all).

Thus, we received neither technology nor investment. As for the simplification of foreign trade operations, then (in fairness) I would like to note that there is still some benefit. Oil and gas suppliers did not receive any special preferences. But the same metallurgists were really able to trade metal in better conditions than they had before. However, the share of metallurgy in exports is about 10%. That is, on a national scale, this positive influence of the WTO was not so noticeable.

But it seems that no one really considered the losses incurred by the domestic manufacturer from the appearance of cheaper imported goods. Well, according to A. Tkachev (now the Minister of Agriculture), during the WTO period until 2014, when the state was concerned about supporting the domestic peasantry, farmers suffered losses en masse and without exception. Other industries also suffered, first of all - light and manufacturing industries, because they failed to defend customs duties on them. But who is interested in calculating the consequences now? There are some estimates, except for the losses of the budget of the Russian Federation from the reduction of customs duties. In the period from 2012 to 2017, they amounted to approximately 800 billion rubles.

Of course, if we had a two-party political system in Russia, the opposition would have calculated every penny. And I would present the relevant reports for the widest possible review. After that, the positions of the ruling party would be shaken, as in a 12-point earthquake. Alas, there is no real political opposition in the country and is not expected. So our leadership can continue to indulge in various economic experiments. To infinity and with impunity.

Okay. Let's not talk about sad things. Let's talk about fun. Import substitution programs, combined with ensuring the food security of our country, is a matter of paramount importance. And it's very good that we finally got down to it. But then something arose with a non-Russian name "de-dollarization". What kind of beast is this?

About de-dollarization


In fact, everything is very simple. De-dollarization is a complete rejection or reduction of the use of the dollar as a currency in foreign economic transactions. In addition, we also understand de-dollarization as a decrease in government reserves invested in dollars. Why are we doing this? This question was answered well by V.V. Putin:

“The dollar was very trusted all over the world. It was almost the only universal world currency. For some reason, the United States began to use dollar settlements as an instrument of political struggle, to impose restrictions on the use of the dollar ... By the way, we have never set ourselves the task of leaving the dollar as a payment instrument. But we just have to think about how to protect ourselves. "

In essence, Russia today has at least two reasons for striving to move away from the dollar. Moreover, their weight is such that one would be quite enough.

First, there are possible sanctions. We may well find ourselves in a situation where our dollar reserves will be withdrawn or blocked so that we will not be able to use them for their intended purpose, that is, as a means of payment in foreign trade.

Secondly, it is the stability of the dollar as a reserve currency. Earlier, the US dollar stood firm like the Cheops pyramid. And by his inviolability he guaranteed the preservation of the capital invested in it. But today, the enormous external debt of the United States (growing at a truly gigantic pace in combination with the regular launch of the Fed's printing press) has led to the fact that the dollar has become apprehensive. And not only and even not so much here as abroad. The same Deutsche Bank, for example, predicted the possibility of a strong drop in demand for US dollars in the event of a second wave of the pandemic. And the reasons for this are called the budget deficit, national debt and the Fed's policy. And the general statistics speak for themselves: over the past 20 years, the share of the American currency in the reserves of countries has decreased from 70 to 60%, and world settlements in dollars are also falling.

In fact, the mechanism here is very simple: seeing, let's say, the not very reasonable monetary policy of the United States against the background of regular budget deficits, the world fears that at some point the dollar will simply fall in price, and with it all contributions to it will depreciate. relative to other currencies.

Thus, it turns out that our, domestic de-dollarization is both a reasonable and timely business. But the question is that many of our fellow citizens really want to see in it not just the protection of our foreign trade and government savings, but much more. And the Internet is replete with remarks about the decline of the era of the dollar in international settlements, about its end as a reserve currency, and, in fact, about the economic collapse of the United States.

Just a couple of numbers.

In 2018, the export of goods from the Russian Federation accounted for as much as 2,3% of the world export of goods. Our country's share in the world export of services is even lower - in the same year it amounted to only 1,1%. At the same time, it should be understood that even before the de-dollarization, some of the RF settlements were carried out not in dollars, but in the same euros and in other currencies. For example, in the same 2018, the share of Russian settlements in foreign trade in dollars was 56,1%.

Thus, even a complete refusal of the Russian Federation from the dollar will lead to a decrease in dollar settlements in the world for goods by about only 1,3% in commodity payments and by 0,6% in payments for services. And, obviously, this is not at all the order of numbers that could seriously affect the global stability of the US dollar.

In fact, only the United States itself can shake the dollar's position as a reserve currency and the main means of international settlements both today and in the foreseeable future. After all, if the local leadership does take up their minds, and approaches the matter strategically, not limiting themselves to the horizon of the next elections, then they will be able, even if by unpopular measures, to correct the situation. For example, if the United States still manages to balance its budget, if not to a surplus, then at least to a minimum deficit, then the whole world will again rush to buy evergreen "made in USA" papers.

How much time does the United States have left to stabilize its position? A carriage and a small cart. Taking into account that the decline in the share of the American currency in savings amounted to as much as 10% over twenty years, this period can be measured in decades. Another question is that the further the Americans pull, the more difficult and painful it will cost them to return the economy to normal. And if it is tightened too much, then yes, its complete collapse is possible.

My personal opinion is that the Americans will bring their country to the "Big Badabum" in the economy. The situation, which is already very bad today and is infinitely far from the chimeras of the capitalist paradise, as it seems to our would-be professors from the Higher School of Economics. Whatever one may say, but the slowly maturing American crisis is of a systemic nature, and will not dissolve by itself. Economic theory already postulates the inevitability of crises through which any capitalist economy must pass with a certain regularity.

It is understood that the mechanisms of its self-regulation (the very “invisible hands of the market”) are gradually shaking its balance. And in the end there is a collapse. But then, thanks to the same "invisible market hands", there is a revival of the economy like a phoenix from the ashes. After which the aforementioned phoenix rushes to new, previously unattainable heights and unthinkable victories. Then another collapse follows. And so on ad infinitum. But on the whole, capitalist society is still going forward and upward. Because each subsequent peak of development is always higher than the previous one. America has gone through this before. Let's remember the "Great Depression". However, this time, in my humble understanding, everything will be much more complicated and difficult.

But what does it matter to us? No, I, of course, understand that happiness is not when one's own cow calves, but when a neighbor's one dies. But still, I propose, instead of once again predicting an economic catastrophe for the United States, look at our own problems in this area. And first, to figure out whether de-dollarization will help remove the dependence of our country's economy on the American currency?

To be continued ...
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  1. rocket757
    rocket757 9 December 2020 15: 19
    +31
    Our country is capitally drawn into the capitalist cycle of everything and everyone, in the whole world.
    For most of those who are at the very top, this is an indisputable Blessing!
    The question is ... what should we expect from them then?
    The answer is obvious.
    The sanctions played an intricate joke, with everyone ... but this is from an outsider's point of view, the fat girls did not suffer much from that! That's when they began to squeeze out capital, assets and other things that they had successfully accumulated over the hill, they started to BURN up REALLY!
    AND WE? how are we doing In general, it's not very good. Basically, we are poorer, with the exception of the category of "ours" who are firmly attached to the budget, and the bureaucratic class from the top, the big ones are shorter, they have everything on the ointment ...
    What other conclusions can be drawn from our situation?
    1. Svarog
      Svarog 9 December 2020 15: 24
      +29
      Quote: rocket757
      The sanctions played an intricate joke, with everyone ... but this is from an outsider's point of view, the fat girls did not suffer much from that

      They not only did not suffer, they multiplied and there are more of them ... They fell even more tightly to the budget money and against the background of sanctions, the wisest also exempted them from taxes ... at the same time, the population did not forget to increase the retirement age and taxes ...
      1. Sahalinets
        Sahalinets 9 December 2020 15: 53
        +15
        People are new oil!
        1. Svarog
          Svarog 9 December 2020 15: 55
          +20
          Quote: Sahalinets
          People are new oil!

          But people are rapidly running out in Russia too.
          1. Sahalinets
            Sahalinets 9 December 2020 16: 02
            +23
            Well, our ilitka is not going to stay here. They will plunder and forward over the hill. They just can't get drunk ...
            1. Vadim237
              Vadim237 9 December 2020 16: 31
              -15%
              "They'll plunder and go over the hill." With this, personal sanctions are already a problem, and at any time property and accounts can be arrested by other states other people's crooks are not needed, and everyone needs money, so the processes described above will go on increasing.
              1. Civil
                Civil 10 December 2020 11: 10
                0
                De-dollarization is when people cannot afford to buy the normal amount of dollars. Everything goes to food.
          2. The leader of the Redskins
            The leader of the Redskins 9 December 2020 16: 07
            +5
            Moreover, PEOPLE are even faster than citizens.
          3. NEOZ
            NEOZ 9 December 2020 16: 11
            -33%
            Quote: Svarog
            But people are rapidly running out in Russia too.

            Can you imagine the schedule?
          4. NEOZ
            NEOZ 9 December 2020 16: 34
            -36%
            Quote: Svarog
            But people are rapidly running out in Russia too.

            then I'll give the numbers:
            2000 the population of the Russian Federation was 146 890 128 people.
            As of January 1, 2020, according to Rosstat, there were 146 people in Russia.
            where is it fast?
            1. mat-vey
              mat-vey 9 December 2020 16: 56
              +22
              who received citizenship through the Federal Migration Service / Ministry of Internal Affairs in 1992-2017 thousand people 6660,141
            2. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
              9 December 2020 16: 59
              +27
              Quote: NEOZ
              where is it fast?

              And to see that the natural decline is growing by leaps and bounds and the situation is leveled only by the flow of migrants (which, alas, are not endless)?
              In January-October 2019, the natural decline in the population of Russia, i.e., the excess of the number of deaths over the number of births, amounted to 259,6 thousand people, follows from the data of the Federal State Statistics Service. This means that according to the results of the current year, the decline in the country will be the highest in 11 years, this indicator was higher only in 2008 - 362 thousand people.
              The migration inflow in January-September (there is no information for October yet) amounted to 193,2 thousand and could not compensate for the natural decline in the population over the same period (in January-September it amounted to 236,9 thousand people)
              (this is with RBC)
              1. Lannan Shi
                Lannan Shi 9 December 2020 17: 20
                +20
                Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
                and could not compensate for the natural population decline over the same period (in January-September it amounted to 236,9 thousand people)

                Natural loss 440, if chu. This is not RBC, but the great and infallible Rosstat. And 240 thousand losses, this is already a net decline. True, excluding citizens of the Russian Federation. The country of waved hands, but did not renounce citizenship. With them, the tsiferki would be even sadder.
              2. NEOZ
                NEOZ 10 December 2020 08: 59
                -16%
                Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
                In January-October 2019, the natural decline in the population of Russia, that is, the excess of the number of deaths over the number of births, amounted to 259,6 thousand people, follows from Rosstat data.

                Andrey, you completely disappointed me here ...
                I will answer in your words
                Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
                you yourself would find out what demography is, honestly. I understand that it is necessary to blur something, but you should think at least a little

                I highly recommend studying the university textbook on the subject of "demography"
                all demographic holes are described there! take a textbook from the 2000s, so there is information about the demographic crisis of 2020 (overlapping cycles due to the Second World War and the 90s).
                ps
                if you don’t wake up to an expert approach to the questions that you are voicing, then the fate of the near -radi cockroach awaits you ...
                1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
                  10 December 2020 09: 06
                  +11
                  Quote: NEOZ
                  I highly recommend studying the university textbook on the subject of "demography"
                  all demographic holes are described there!

                  No general words are needed. There is a fact - we die much faster than we are born, and the current population level is supported exclusively by migration. And our "negative growth" has been going on since 2000 practically without interruption (it was positive for 3 years out of 20).
                  So you don't need to portray "disappointed" - better teach materiel
                  1. NEOZ
                    NEOZ 10 December 2020 09: 52
                    -12%
                    Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
                    So you don't need to portray "disappointed" - better teach materiel

                    I studied demography at the university, and you?
                    Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
                    And the "negative growth" has been going on since 2000

                    How many children do you have? ... I have three ...
                    Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
                    (3 years out of 20 it was positive).

                    Well, what are you not happy with? For 17 years people have been working on fertility, every year the gap has become smaller and smaller ...
                    Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
                    There is a fact - we die much faster than we are born, and the current population level is supported exclusively by migration.

                    all over Europe, so what? so bad with the economy?
                    here are the top 10 countries by birth rate:
                    1 Democratic Republic of the Congo
                    2 Guinea-Bissau
                    3 Liberia
                    4 Niger
                    5 Afghanistan
                    6 Mali
                    7 Angola
                    8 Burundi
                    9 Uganda
                    10 Sierra Leone

                    can you comment on the high birth rate in these countries?

                    the birth rate of the Russian Federation is higher than:
                    Australia
                    United Kingdom
                    Norway
                    Luxembourg
                    Sweden
                    Denmark
                    Finland
                    Netherlands

                    16 Spain 10,8
                    167 Portugal 10,58
                    168 Belgium 10,4
                    169 Canada 10,3

                    181 Austria 9,2
                    182 Czech Republic 9,2
                    183 Italy 9,2
                    184 Switzerland 9,2

                    191 Japan 8,3
                    192 Germany 8,2
                    1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
                      10 December 2020 11: 03
                      +9
                      Quote: NEOZ
                      I studied demography at the university, and you?

                      It was so
                      Quote: NEOZ
                      How many children do you have? ... I have three ...

                      I have three. And - you know, the most worn-out, hackneyed and stupid way to conduct a discussion about the state of the Russian Federation is argumentation in the style of "start with yourself"
                      Quote: NEOZ
                      Well, what are you not happy with? For 17 years people have been working on fertility, every year the gap has become smaller and smaller ...

                      Uh-huh. EMNIP by 2013 came out in plus, and since 2016 they rolled further into the cesspool
                      Quote: NEOZ
                      can you comment on the high birth rate in these countries?

                      Easily. The comment is simple - she does not interest me at all. I am interested in natural population growth, and it is strange to me that a person who seems to have studied demography so easily replaces one concept with another.
                      And yes, if you want to say that negative population growth is the norm for the Russian Federation, because we see the same thing in a number of developed countries - say it bluntly. So that there are no understatements.
                      1. NEOZ
                        NEOZ 10 December 2020 15: 15
                        -9
                        Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
                        Easily. The comment is simple - she does not interest me at all.

                        but this is in vain .... ignoring practice is a bad idea!
                        Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
                        And yes, if you want to say

                        I want to say that it is fundamentally wrong to assert that a bad birth rate is due to a bad economy. world practice confirms this.
                        I also want to say that the thesis that the state is doing so that the birth rate would fall (because of the policy of the state) is also fundamentally wrong.
                        it's all manipulation.
                        Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
                        a hackneyed and unwise way to conduct a discussion about the state of the Russian Federation is argumentation in the style of "start with yourself"

                        very appropriate ...
                        I had a debate here with one supporter of the opposition, I stood up for sick children ... and so I found out that he had a salary of about 150 thousand. rub. but he did not transfer a penny to the children for the entire time (he has been working at a state-owned enterprise for more than 6 years), although they have an annual collection at an orphanage before the new year ...
                        that's it.
                    2. Ingvar 72
                      Ingvar 72 10 December 2020 16: 07
                      +7
                      Quote: NEOZ
                      the birth rate of the Russian Federation is higher than:

                      Lies! negative In 2020, the birth rate in Russia (10) is lower than in many EU countries, in particular the UK, Belgium (11.1), Switzerland (10.5), Sweden, etc. Canada (10.2), not to mention the US.
                      What university did you study in demography? wink
                      In addition, the previously low birth rate in Europe was explained by prosperity, but how can it be explained here? After all, if you take the birth rate charts and put them on the graph of the income level of the population, a pattern will emerge - the poorer, the more fertile, the richer, the lower the birth rate. And only a few countries get out of this paradigm, mainly the countries that were in the USSR. Doesn't this paradox seem strange to you?
                      1. Svarog
                        Svarog 11 December 2020 21: 25
                        +7
                        Quote: Ingvar 72
                        Doesn't this paradox seem strange to you?

                        Igor hi , he definitely does not think .. the man put Lawrence on the line and is talking complete nonsense .. I think not for ideological reasons ..
                      2. Ingvar 72
                        Ingvar 72 11 December 2020 22: 10
                        +5
                        Quote: Svarog
                        I think not for ideological reasons.
                        Hi Volodya.
                        For some, selling their homeland is also an idea. request
                        It only heals in the 37th year style. hi
                      3. Svarog
                        Svarog 11 December 2020 22: 11
                        +6
                        Quote: Ingvar 72
                        Quote: Svarog
                        I think not for ideological reasons.
                        Hi Volodya.
                        For some, selling their homeland is also an idea. request
                        It only heals in the 37th year style. hi

                        That's right!
                      4. Cuba
                        Cuba 14 December 2020 08: 12
                        +1
                        There is no one to treat!
                      5. napalm
                        napalm 14 December 2020 21: 30
                        -1
                        For some people, selling their homeland is also an idea. Rather a profession. For the idea, they did a lot for free, and even died.
                      6. Ingvar 72
                        Ingvar 72 14 December 2020 23: 23
                        0
                        Quote: napalm
                        Rather a profession.

                        It's probably better to call it an entity. Rotten essence.
                  2. NEOZ
                    NEOZ 14 December 2020 11: 35
                    +1
                    Quote: Svarog
                    the person put on Lawrence's ava and is talking complete nonsense ..

                    what exactly do you think is nonsense and why?
        2. Kuroneko
          Kuroneko 10 December 2020 10: 58
          +1
          Andrew, America "cured" the Second World War. And the term Great Depression in general appeared only after its end - at the time of it everyone was convinced that everything was fine, beautiful marquise, these were just small annoying difficulties. Before the First World War, everything was not very smooth, to put it mildly. In the same way, they will try to "reset" the current crisis with a new global war according to the old scheme. This is where everything goes - hence the record budgets of the Pentagon. Well, the systematic dehumanization of the Russians and Chinese. America still wants to have time to jump on the departing train of a serious war (this time - not with the Papuans). And it is not necessary to say that this is allegedly impossible, because both Russia and China have nuclear weapons. When they back up, they will still untie the Third World War (hot), they simply will have nowhere to go. Under no circumstances will they be able to give up their consumption level (emnip, 40 +% of the world) and as a superpower status. Well, they still hope to sit out, as before. Or get a minimum response, and rake in the jackpot. And so let the Europeans and all sorts of Japan - South Koreas (and the lured India) are puffed up.
          1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
            10 December 2020 11: 08
            +7
            Quote: Kuroneko
            Andrew, America "cured" the Second World War the Great Depression.

            Well, not quite. Strictly speaking, it was greatly facilitated by Roosevelt even before the war, and the war finally brought the United States to a bright future. Otherwise ... I do not argue, often the very same thoughts, although there are other options
            1. Kuroneko
              Kuroneko 10 December 2020 11: 15
              +4
              Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
              Strictly speaking, it was greatly facilitated by Roosevelt even before the war.

              Roosevelt was the head, whatever you say. And how was he gritted in Congress and the Senate for the decision to remove trade barriers with the USSR? When the rest of the West diligently boycotted him (there was something like the current sanctions, only there each country was disgusted in its own way). But the same labor armies in America of that period, where people really worked for ZhRAT - were (and even then, the system of staffs was the same, and the prices for this ZhRAT, that most were only driven into debt in addition). Fact. In this regard, war was as necessary as air, and America did everything possible to push Japan to this. Well, you yourself know very well the history of that period.
              But share your options, if it's not a secret. It will be interesting to hear. Besides, from a fellow countryman. = 3
              1. Machito
                Machito 15 December 2020 00: 12
                +1
                Quote: Kuroneko
                Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
                Strictly speaking, it was greatly facilitated by Roosevelt even before the war.

                Roosevelt was the head, whatever you say. And how was he gritted in Congress and the Senate for the decision to remove trade barriers with the USSR? When the rest of the West diligently boycotted him (there was something like the current sanctions, only there each country was disgusted in its own way). But the same labor armies in America of that period, where people really worked for ZhRAT - were (and even then, the system of staffs was the same, and the prices for this ZhRAT, that most were only driven into debt in addition). Fact. In this regard, war was as necessary as air, and America did everything possible to push Japan to this. Well, you yourself know very well the history of that period.
                But share your options, if it's not a secret. It will be interesting to hear. Besides, from a fellow countryman. = 3

                The United States left Japan no other choice but war. It is even worse if Russia imposes an embargo on energy supplies to Europe in winter, because Europe has alternative suppliers, unlike Japan.
      2. bayard
        bayard 10 December 2020 19: 35
        +7
        Quote: NEOZ
        2000 the population of the Russian Federation was 146 890 128 people.
        As of January 1, 2020, according to Rosstat, there were 146 people in Russia.
        where is it fast?

        In 2014 alone, 2,5 million Crimeans joined the number of Russians at once, and over the following years, a few more (2-3) million from Ukraine alone.
        And where did these new citizens go?
        That this did not affect the total number in ANY way?
        The population of the Russian Federation is balanced ONLY by migration. The natural decline in the population (indigenous and those who have already moved) is at least 500 - 600 thousand people per year. In the worst years - a million.

        Talk about de-dollarization, import substitution and getting up from its knees, doubling GDP, 25 or 5 million new jobs ... raising (!!!) pensions ... and other songs from the storyteller, it's just a game.
        Game - make a sucker.
        A very fun game for a certain category of creatures.
        An offshore economy, BY DEFINITION, cannot be sovereign, is not interested (!) In the strength of the national currency and in the existence of at least some obstacles to the withdrawal of money from the country.
        Bees do not fight against honey.
        All the blizzard that rushes from the screens into the heads of citizens exists only for one thing - to distract attention, chatter, explain new problems by enemies from outside, with whom the "wisest", "honest" and "most beautiful" fights day and night, does not sleep in galleys and thinks about ... the people ...
        lol
        A modern Russian anecdote:
        "Solntselikiy gathered his ministers, senators, governors and friends of the oligarchs and says the following words:
        - Now we have already provided for ourselves in everything, and children, and grandchildren, and mistresses with dogs - for 5 lives ahead ... It's time to think about the people.
        - That's right, Vladimir Vladimirovich! - comrades-in-arms burst out in response - we would have a shower of 200 - 300, in the first case.
        ... They consulted and decided that less than 500 is in no way possible.
        1. your1970
          your1970 11 December 2020 18: 08
          +1
          Quote: bayard
          Bees do not fight against honey

          - strange ...
          We squeezed the Crimea, stuffed the face of Georgia, we still do not give up the islands of Japan, we interfere in Syria, We poison everyone as a newcomer, we shoot down Boeings, we supply weapons to the wrong people ...
          Some strange bees come out, don't you think?
          1. bayard
            bayard 11 December 2020 20: 22
            +5
            These bees carry honey for themselves.
            And they are actively pulling out:
            - oil
            - gas
            - grain
            - aluminum
            - metal rolling
            - coal
            - mineral fertilizer
            - and some weapons.
            And the honey is carried offshore.
            But the bees need to protect their clearing - it feeds them, therefore they entered Syria, because their food base must be protected and they must fight competitors.
            But honey for these bees is dollars. And also the euro, etc., as private subsidiaries of the same dollar.
            Here are just "honey" these bees are dragging into their evidence, which is offshore.
            They cannot and will not fight for the sovereignty of the national currency, it is against their interests. These guys will not cancel the law on the Central Bank.
      3. victor50
        victor50 11 December 2020 16: 40
        +1
        Quote: NEOZ
        2000 the population of the Russian Federation was 146 890 128 people.
        As of January 1, 2020, according to Rosstat, there were 146 people in Russia.
        where is it fast?

        Why, there was no Crimea? request
      4. Left shot
        Left shot 14 December 2020 06: 33
        -2
        A friend from Eastern Ukraine (he has been living in the Russian Federation for 30 years) received citizenship in the summer, says that in batches of money they receive Russian citizenship for those who, not only in Russian, in Uzbek, cannot read the text of the oath.
        It is at the expense of such that the colonial power somehow masks the decline.
        But the Russians for 20 years of the reign of the balab Gauleiter - 10 million minus.
  • Observer2014
    Observer2014 11 December 2020 21: 22
    -1
    Quote: Svarog
    Quote: rocket757
    The sanctions played an intricate joke, with everyone ... but this is from an outsider's point of view, the fat girls did not suffer much from that

    They not only did not suffer, they multiplied and there are more of them ... They fell even more tightly to the budget money and against the background of sanctions, the wisest also exempted them from taxes ... at the same time, the population did not forget to increase the retirement age and taxes ...

    yes Not only that. Drawing cartoons about us invincible all-conquering. Where are the hits of "Zircon"? wassat Anyone with the slightest bit of thinking thinks this is all a bluff. Yes, it is. And what are even massive launches of ICBMs. Nothing! Who knows in general nuclear weapons after this pack are still in service with Russia? Who can swear that exactly what is stated on the media is there? How can you trust them? Chubais saluted his "resignation" from a cannon lol Where are Putin's lads. Incredibly successful businessmen. lol Workaholic, rushing for our good. lol We have no traitors in power; they were collaborators then under Chubais. laughing Now they are not in power. Let them continue to scratch us about the "green paper" For the glory of the wooden rubble. The disgrace is disgusting. Nothing! Where is my funded pension? And squalor disguised as patriotism. A bunch of thieves. Who makes sense to impose at least some kind of faith in this country. Plundering it and taking everything from here .... No words. Only hatred for this pack of calling themselves "patriots"
  • Daniil Konovalenko
    Daniil Konovalenko 9 December 2020 15: 20
    +18
    Andrey, write "anti-patriotic" things ... throw away ... g ... with tin, in the sense of commentaries. In general, I agree with the article. WTO, as in the joke, it turned out: you will always enter somewhere, then in guano, then in the party .. laughing
    1. Svarog
      Svarog 9 December 2020 15: 26
      +19
      Quote: Daniil Konovalenko
      forever you will join somewhere, then in guano, then in the party ..

      Do we eat Russia mean?
      WTO as it turned out in the joke

      This suggests that decisions are not taken deliberately at all. Elementary, they can't calculate anything one step ahead ... they float with the flow and catch fish in troubled water ..
      1. Daniil Konovalenko
        Daniil Konovalenko 9 December 2020 16: 44
        +2
        Do we eat Russia mean?
        ..No, capitalism.
    2. Vadim237
      Vadim237 9 December 2020 16: 33
      -14%
      The whole world in the WTO to conduct economic activity without joining this organization - to create a barrier for their exports.
      1. Daniil Konovalenko
        Daniil Konovalenko 9 December 2020 16: 45
        +1
        The whole world in the WTO
        What do you mean in guano? smile
      2. mat-vey
        mat-vey 9 December 2020 16: 58
        +12
        Quote: Vadim237
        create a barrier to your exports.

        And what do we export besides oil, gas and timber?
        1. Senior seaman
          Senior seaman 9 December 2020 19: 37
          0
          Quote: mat-vey
          And what do we export besides oil, gas and timber?

          metals, weapons, grain ...
          1. mat-vey
            mat-vey 10 December 2020 15: 10
            +5
            Armament through the WTO?
            Quote: Senior Sailor
            metals,

            Quote: Senior Sailor
            cereals ...

            Yeah, more coal, nickel, iron - the list of raw materials can be continued.
            1. Senior seaman
              Senior seaman 10 December 2020 19: 53
              0
              Remember your question?
              And what do we export besides oil, gas and timber?

              As if, what question, such is the answer.
              As for "weapons", whatever one may say, but these are very high-tech products, which can hardly be called "raw materials".
              1. mat-vey
                mat-vey 12 December 2020 06: 22
                +2
                Quote: Senior Sailor
                As if, what question, such is the answer.

                Sorry, there will be no more questions for you.
                1. Senior seaman
                  Senior seaman 12 December 2020 08: 51
                  0
                  It is counted.
                  1. mat-vey
                    mat-vey 12 December 2020 08: 52
                    0
                    As you please.
            2. bayard
              bayard 10 December 2020 20: 08
              +1
              Aluminum!
              Forgotten aluminum !!!
        2. Vadim237
          Vadim237 11 December 2020 15: 52
          -5
          Non-resource and non-energy exports last year, together with weapons and services, amounted to $ 210 billion, everything we produce, we export everything except state goods and secrets, and oil and gas industry occupies 19% of Russia's GDP and 30% of the budget revenue this year.
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      1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
        10 December 2020 13: 37
        +11
        Quote: Imobile
        The WTO is a boon for ordinary people!

        Yes of course. After all, the unemployed are so cool to buy
        Quote: Imobile
        New Cars are almost 2 times cheaper than steel

        But seriously - look at the prices in retail chains and car dealerships before and after joining the WTO (adjusted for the dollar exchange rate, of course). When you find a difference, please let us know :))))))
        1. Imobile
          Imobile 10 December 2020 14: 28
          -4
          Everything has become much cheaper. Compare in US dollars
          1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
            10 December 2020 14: 52
            +4
            Quote: Imobile
            Everything has become much cheaper. Compare in US dollars

            Perhaps an example?
            1. Ingvar 72
              Ingvar 72 10 December 2020 16: 17
              +7
              Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
              Perhaps an example?

              It's easy - since 2014, salaries and pensions in dollars have become cheaper! good
              Hi Andryukha! drinks
          2. mat-vey
            mat-vey 12 December 2020 06: 26
            0
            Quote: Imobile
            Everything has become much cheaper. Compare in US dollars

            And the picture is the same in euros.
            1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
              12 December 2020 09: 54
              +3
              Quote: mat-vey
              And the picture is the same in euros.

              But, alas, there will be no examples ...
              1. mat-vey
                mat-vey 12 December 2020 11: 17
                +1
                Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
                Quote: mat-vey
                And the picture is the same in euros.

                But, alas, there will be no examples ...

                Can you cite my pension as an example? As a worker, it was "frozen" (probably at the behest of the WTO). So that in euros, that in dollars is several times cheaper, and no one "froze" prices.
                1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
                  12 December 2020 11: 32
                  +3
                  Quote: mat-vey
                  Could you give my pension as an example?

                  In general, it was about the sharply cheaper imported goods after joining the WTO.
                  1. mat-vey
                    mat-vey 12 December 2020 11: 36
                    +2
                    And what's the difference that the goods, allegedly fell in price if the ruble dropped sharply and were mischievous with duties?
                    1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
                      12 December 2020 14: 09
                      +3
                      Quote: mat-vey
                      What's the difference that the goods are supposedly cheaper

                      My opponent claimed that they fell in price. I disputed this
                      1. mat-vey
                        mat-vey 12 December 2020 15: 00
                        +2
                        I apologize for the misunderstanding ... absolutely sincerely.
                      2. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
                        12 December 2020 21: 35
                        +3
                        No question, it's easy to misunderstand each other on the Internet. Glad that our little misunderstanding was so easily resolved hi
                      3. mat-vey
                        mat-vey 13 December 2020 05: 39
                        +2
                        Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
                        No question, it's easy to misunderstand each other on the Internet.

                        It is what it is .
          3. Vladimir1155
            Vladimir1155 12 December 2020 16: 24
            +2
            of course he will not ... he has dollars and euros in his eyes, he does not live on an average salary of 20000 rubles in the outback, does not buy potatoes for 100 rubles per kg, does not pay for an apartment for 4-9 tyr months
  • Svarog
    Svarog 9 December 2020 15: 21
    +18
    And to begin with, to figure out whether de-dollarization will remove the dependence of our country's economy on the American currency?

    Who will figure it out ... journalists, hockey players or gymnasts?
    1. NEOZ
      NEOZ 9 December 2020 16: 13
      -35%
      Quote: Svarog
      Who will figure it out ... journalists, hockey players or gymnasts?

      will be Andryusha from Chelyaba! ... now the current will find out what the gold reserves, its functions and tasks ...
      1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
        9 December 2020 16: 17
        +27
        Quote: NEOZ
        will be Andryusha from Chelyaba! ... now the current will find out what the gold reserves, its functions and tasks ...

        Lavrenty, you yourself would have figured out what the gold reserves are, honestly. I understand that it is necessary to blur something, but you should think at least a little
        1. NEOZ
          NEOZ 9 December 2020 16: 22
          -17%
          Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
          Lavrenty, you yourself would have figured out what the gold reserves are, honestly.

          Andrey, where does the exchange rate come from?
          Why is he just like that, and not some other?
          which countries do not have gold reserves? why?
          1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
            9 December 2020 16: 51
            +14
            Quote: NEOZ
            Andrey, where does the exchange rate come from?
            Why is he just like that, and not some other?

            And about this will be in the next articles.
            Quote: NEOZ
            which countries do not have gold reserves? why?

            Alas, your question is irrelevant
        2. NEOZ
          NEOZ 9 December 2020 16: 45
          -19%
          Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
          I understand that it is necessary to blur something, but you should think at least a little

          Andrey, do you know why the interest rate is low in the west, and high in the Russian Federation and others?
          Do you know why Western countries have public debt at 100% of GDP?
          Do you know why the poor countries have a national debt, in general, a very small% of GDP?
          1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
            9 December 2020 16: 50
            +18
            Yes I know. Maybe you will still try to say something on the topic of the article? lol
            1. NEOZ
              NEOZ 9 December 2020 16: 53
              -15%
              Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
              something to say on the topic of the article?

              In other words, before entering the WTO, it was necessary to first modernize production. And what is characteristic, all the countries that are successful in the WTO did just that. But the leadership of the Russian Federation did not want to think about it. Although the warnings were sounded more than once.
              give examples of these countries, horror how interesting.
              1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
                9 December 2020 17: 01
                +14
                Quote: NEOZ
                give examples of these countries, horror how interesting.

                Take the whole "golden billion" - the USA, England, France, Germany, etc. etc.
                1. NEOZ
                  NEOZ 9 December 2020 17: 20
                  -13%
                  Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
                  Take the whole "golden billion" - the USA, England, France, Germany, etc. etc.

                  how and when did the gold billion carry out modernization?
                  so the WTO was founded in 1995 ...
                  How did it happen that only Western countries carried out modernization?
                  1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
                    9 December 2020 18: 30
                    +14
                    Quote: NEOZ
                    how and when did the gold billion carry out modernization?
                    so the WTO was founded in 1995 ...

                    And they carried out the specified modernization BEFORE creating the WTO
                    Quote: NEOZ
                    How did it happen that only Western countries carried out modernization?

                    So they were the leaders of the WTO - they moved the process. It went slowly, but the WTO took place only when the Europeans and Americans were ready for it - and were ready to get the most out of it.
                    1. Undecim
                      Undecim 9 December 2020 20: 55
                      +3
                      The WTO is just an instrument for regulating international trade that has existed in one form or another since 1946. In 1995, this instrument took the form of the WTO.
                      1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
                        10 December 2020 05: 46
                        +6
                        Quote: Undecim
                        The WTO is just a tool for regulating international trade that has existed in one form or another since 1946

                        We are not talking about "this or that form", but about the WTO format. And yes, this is just a tool ... being used to the greater benefit of a number of countries
                      2. Undecim
                        Undecim 10 December 2020 08: 39
                        +1
                        However, the WTO is 98% of world trade and 160 countries. Maybe it's not the WTO after all?
                      3. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
                        10 December 2020 09: 07
                        +8
                        Quote: Undecim
                        However, the WTO is 98% of world trade and 160 countries.

                        Yes. And some people profit from this, but we are not ready for the WTO (like a bunch of other countries). What is the problem? Refute the theses of the article if you can
                      4. Undecim
                        Undecim 10 December 2020 09: 20
                        +4
                        Refute the theses of the article if you can
                        I have not refuted the thesis that countries with strong economies in the WTO have an advantage over developing ones. The question is that, as applied to Russia, it is not the WTO or the "world behind the scenes" that is to blame. In twenty years one could somehow prepare.
                        And I cannot refute the trend of looking for reasons on the side.
                      5. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
                        10 December 2020 09: 55
                        +6
                        Quote: Undecim
                        The question is that, as applied to Russia, it is not the WTO or the "world behind the scenes" that is to blame. In twenty years one could somehow prepare.

                        Is it okay that I blame the leadership of the Russian Federation for this lack of readiness?
                        Quote: Undecim
                        And I cannot refute the trend of looking for reasons on the side.

                        Maybe we should nevertheless read the criticized materials more carefully?
                      6. Undecim
                        Undecim 10 December 2020 10: 57
                        0
                        It's okay that I blame the leadership of the Russian Federation for this unreadiness.?
                        Well it is more like Yes. As a background for the main idea - about the center of democracy around the world and its insidious intrigues and the suppression of "independent politicians".
                        Based on your views, the only prospect is the Juche and the path of North Korea. She has both independent politics and economics.
                      7. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
                        10 December 2020 11: 06
                        +5
                        Quote: Undecim
                        Well it is more like Yes. As a background for the main idea - about the center of democracy around the world and its insidious intrigues and the suppression of "independent politicians".

                        Who hurts about what ... My main idea, generally speaking, was
                        But what does it matter to us? No, I, of course, understand that happiness is not when one's own cow calves, but when a neighbor's one dies. But still, I propose, instead of once again predicting an economic catastrophe for the United States, look at our own problems in this area.

                        You are right about one thing - I had and still have the thought of insidious intrigues. And what, you say I'm wrong? :))))))
                        Quote: Undecim
                        Based on your views, the only prospect is the Juche and the path of North Korea.

                        You are mistaken
                      8. Undecim
                        Undecim 10 December 2020 11: 14
                        +1
                        My main idea, generally speaking, was
                        So I didn't see her.
  • NEOZ
    NEOZ 9 December 2020 17: 08
    -13%
    Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
    something to say on the topic of the article?

    Secondly, it is the stability of the dollar as a reserve currency. Earlier, the US dollar stood firm like the Cheops pyramid. And by his inviolability he guaranteed the preservation of the capital invested in it. But today, the enormous external debt of the United States (growing at a truly gigantic pace in combination with the regular launch of the Fed's printing press) has led to the fact that the dollar has become apprehensive. And not only and even not so much here as abroad. The same Deutsche Bank, for example, predicted the possibility of a strong drop in demand for US dollars in the event of a second wave of the pandemic. And the reasons for this are called the budget deficit, national debt and the Fed's policy. And the general statistics speak for themselves: over the past 20 years, the share of the American currency in the reserves of countries has decreased from 70 to 60%, and world settlements in dollars are also falling.

    In fact, the mechanism here is very simple: seeing, let's say, the not very reasonable monetary policy of the United States against the background of regular budget deficits, the world fears that at some point the dollar will simply fall in price, and with it all contributions to it will depreciate. relative to other currencies.

    here you can dispute every statement !!!
    Previously, the US dollar stood firm - this is not true, just before the devaluation of the dollar was not so noticeable, just now it has reached the peak of a geometric progression.
    And the overall statistics speaks for themselves: over the past 20 years, the share of the American currency in the reserves of countries has decreased from 70 to 60% - and what has replaced 10% in the gold and foreign exchange reserves?
    world settlements in dollars are also falling. - and in what do they grow? in national currencies? how is the course formed? and what is gold reserves?
    In fact, the mechanism here is very simple: seeing, let's say, the not very reasonable monetary policy of the United States against the background of regular budget deficits - this unreasonable mechanism allows 5% of the population to receive resources from 55% of the planet !!!!! everything is very reasonable !!!!!
    the world fears that at some point the dollar will simply fall in price, and together with it all investments in it will depreciate - the dollar is getting cheaper all the time !!!!! and the world doesn't know what to do about it ...
  • Left shot
    Left shot 14 December 2020 06: 41
    0
    I didn't want to be personally, but after these words ... Did you study demography on Lakhta during your lunch break? Or do you call reading manuals "studying demography"? Indeed, judging by your ignorance of the elementary factors of influence on the level of the population in the Russian Federation, there is only one conclusion - only manuals.
  • A. Privalov
    A. Privalov 9 December 2020 18: 46
    +7
    Quote: Svarog
    Who will figure it out ... journalists, hockey players or gymnasts?

    But what is there to understand? In the hands of the population, according to experts, there are about 60 billion dollars. So, everything will be done simply: de-dollarization will start with ordinary citizens.

    They will return something like Article 88 of the 1960 RSFSR Criminal Code (in the slang of currency dealers - "butterfly") "Violation of the rules on currency transactions." It provided for criminal punishment for transactions with foreign exchange and currency values.
    Conviction under Art. 88 suggested, depending on the nature of the crime, imprisonment for a term of 3 to 15 years, confiscation of property, a link to a term of up to 5 years and the death penalty.
    Well, of course, they will give you a short period for which you should return cash dollars at some lousy rate, say, 5-10 rubles for a green one. Everything. With dollars in Russia will be done away with. Dollars will remain only for external government payments, but this is no longer a matter of a simple mind. hi
  • prapor55
    prapor55 9 December 2020 15: 23
    +15
    Andrei once again pleased me with an article on the topic of the day. And to start de-dollarization and ruble investments in the real sector of the economy, the political will of the first person of the state is needed.
    1. Ingvar 72
      Ingvar 72 9 December 2020 15: 45
      +19
      Quote: prapor55
      And to start de-dollarization and ruble investments in the real sector of the economy, the political will of the first person of the state is needed.

      But in fact, gold is exported from the country, instead of selling dollar assets. And I do not think that the first person in the state does not know this.
      1. aybolyt678
        aybolyt678 9 December 2020 15: 50
        +17
        Quote: Ingvar 72
        And I do not think that the first person in the state does not know this.

        it knows everything, but how does it understand the function of the first person? hand on the pulse of the economy or on the piano keys?
        1. Ingvar 72
          Ingvar 72 9 December 2020 16: 15
          +17
          Quote: aybolyt678
          it knows everything, but how does it understand the function of the first person?

          It understands this function only as much as it is allowed to.
          Because the system built by Putin still functions in manual mode. Any normal and independent leader, whose true goals coincide with the declared ones, would have built a system in which there would be no need for the intervention of the first person to carry out a water supply system in a small town.
          That is why we can judge that the king is not real. And the true goals are very different from the voiced ones. hi
          1. Tsoy
            Tsoy 9 December 2020 16: 54
            +8
            Because the system built by Putin still functions in manual mode. Any normal and independent leader, whose true goals coincide with the declared ones, would have built a system in which there would be no need for the intervention of the first person to carry out a water supply system in a small town.


            If you build such a system, the question arises, why then the president? It is not accepted here to give power ...
            1. Ingvar 72
              Ingvar 72 9 December 2020 17: 20
              +8
              Quote: Choi
              , and why then the president?

              Well, not the problem of water supply in the provinces to solve laughing
            2. aybolyt678
              aybolyt678 9 December 2020 17: 51
              +3
              Quote: Choi
              If you build such a system, the question arises, why then the president?

              the evolution of power lies in the removal of responsibility for the decisions made: first the leader, the leader ... then a shaman appears - responsibility is already shared with him, then advice appears, responsibility is even less, then democracy appears and responsibility is shared with the voters ... wassat As a result, the real power is somewhere where the money is, and everything else is a screen. Each check in a store using a bank card transfers 2% of the amount to the bank! 7% taxes (I have it) but so the state and expenses! and at the bank?
              1. Ingvar 72
                Ingvar 72 9 December 2020 20: 33
                +4
                Quote: aybolyt678
                then democracy appears and responsibility is shared with the voters ..

                You are wrong. Neither Ivan the Terrible, nor Peter the Great, nor Stalin had any democracy. There were loyal people, associates. Under the tsars, these also stole, of course, but the interests of the sovereign were above. Because they knew that they would put their heads on the block if something happened. And where is Serdyukov with us? Chubais? Free. Vasilyeva removes the clips ... ugh! How many of them are there?
                1. aybolyt678
                  aybolyt678 10 December 2020 05: 30
                  +3
                  Quote: Ingvar 72
                  Because they knew that they would put their heads on the block if something happened.

                  that's right, we shared the responsibility. And now, when we go to vote, don't we understand that we are taking on the responsibility that they do not want to take on?
                  1. Ingvar 72
                    Ingvar 72 10 December 2020 09: 04
                    +6
                    But no matter how you vote, you will still get ... laughing
                    No, of course it is necessary to vote, and not because our vote ultimately influences something. And because the more people participate in the elections, the more difficult it is to fake the results.
                    In general, I agree with you, but the concept of "Responsibility" implies either reward or punishment based on the results of work. What I wrote above. I got caught stealing, did not properly fulfill my direct duties - a wall, a block, or at worst a camera. But this is not, and is not expected. Thieves are in favor.
                    Conclusion - the king is not real. hi
                2. aybolyt678
                  aybolyt678 10 December 2020 11: 07
                  +2
                  Quote: Ingvar 72
                  Neither Ivan the Terrible, nor Peter the Great, nor Stalin had any democracy. There were loyal people, associates.

                  there were also radishes - red outside and white inside laughing In fact, the voiced people were carriers of the Idea of ​​a great country. I don't know much about Peter, everything is very contradictory, but I really respect Catherine II. She owns the words: "Ashamed gentlemen, in our age enlightened from smallpox to die" !! she was 2 years earlier than enlightened Europe, she opened smallpox houses throughout Russia where they were vaccinated against smallpox for free. She was the first monarch in the world to inoculate herself with smallpox. Ashamed in front of her for the coronavirus
        2. prapor55
          prapor55 9 December 2020 17: 49
          0
          Here, unfortunately, I do not know, but there is a lot about the hand now on the net.
      2. NEOZ
        NEOZ 9 December 2020 16: 46
        -17%
        Quote: Ingvar 72
        But in fact, gold is exported from the country

        how will you prove it?
        1. Ingvar 72
          Ingvar 72 9 December 2020 17: 19
          +6
          Quote: NEOZ

          how will you prove it?

          Do you need to prove things that are well known? belay Have you been banned from the Internet? wink
          In addition, Mishustin, with his signature, lifted the restriction on the export of gold from Russia by gold producers.
          1. NEOZ
            NEOZ 9 December 2020 17: 30
            -8
            Quote: Ingvar 72
            Do you need to prove things that are well known?

            it is common knowledge that you have gills and you are a reptilian ... but I would prefer to believe the doctors' opinion ...
            Quote: Ingvar 72
            In addition, Mishustin, with his signature, lifted the restriction on the export of gold from Russia by gold producers.

            what nonsense !!!!!! where do you get all this ???
            here goes:
            Export
            Export duty

            No

            Export licensing

            No (basic)

            »Licensed

            Raw precious metals (only unique and non-refining nuggets) Table 1.

            Export is carried out upon presentation of a license issued in accordance with the Instruction approved by the Decision of the EEC Board of November 6, 2014 N 199, and an act of state control.

            Decision of the EEC N 30 (clause 2.10) dated 21.04.15 as amended by the EEC Decision dated 6.10.15. N 131

            Regulations see Appendix 14. Placement under customs procedures is carried out at specialized customs posts.

            »Licensed

            Raw gold or silver (only refined gold or silver in the form of bars, plates, powder and granules, as well as gold used for minting coins) Table 1.

            Export is carried out upon presentation of a license issued in accordance with the Instruction approved by the Decision of the EEC Board of November 6, 2014 N 199, and an act of state control.

            Decision of the EEC N 30 (clause 2.10) dated 21.04.15 as amended by the EEC Decision dated 6.10.15. N 131

            Regulations see Appendix 14. Placement under customs procedures is carried out at specialized customs posts.

            Dual use

            No

            Export quotas

            No

            Other features

            »A strategically important product

            Precious metals *

            The goods are included in the list of strategically important goods and resources for the purposes of Article 226.1 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation.

            Government Decree N 923 of 13.09.2012.

            »Places of registration

            Places for declaring precious metals and precious stones are specialized customs posts specified in the Order:

            Order of the Federal Customs Service of the Russian Federation N 971 of 12.05.11/XNUMX/XNUMX.

            »Marking by means of identification

            Gold in other rough forms

            From June 1, 2018 to November 1, 2018, an experiment is being carried out on the territory of the Russian Federation to mark certain types of precious metals, precious stones and products from them.

            Resolution of the Government of the Russian Federation from 24.03.2018 N 321

            Mandatory application of identification means has not yet been determined, the documents are under development.


            LEARN THE MATCH !!!!!!!!!!!!
            1. Ingvar 72
              Ingvar 72 9 December 2020 20: 26
              +4
              Quote: NEOZ
              it is common knowledge that you have gills and you are a reptilian ...

              Eck pokes you, but it's not Friday yet! laughing
              Quote: NEOZ
              what nonsense !!!!!! where do you get all this ???

              You are not tired of lying and covering up all the accelerating plunder of the country?
              Is Interfax and the official Internet portal of the government an authoritative source for you?
              https://www.interfax.ru/russia/705084
              http://publication.pravo.gov.ru/Document/View/0001202004200005
              The decree authorizes the issuance of gold export licenses to mining companies. Ie to individuals. Do you think this will decrease or increase the export of gold from the country? wink
              And yes, about the well-known export of gold - the official statistics of the Federal Customs Service will help you.
              1. NEOZ
                NEOZ 10 December 2020 09: 05
                -6
                Quote: Ingvar 72
                official statistics of the Federal Customs Service to help you.

                so voice it
                1. Ingvar 72
                  Ingvar 72 10 December 2020 09: 06
                  +5
                  Can't I get you a napkin after dinner?
                  1. NEOZ
                    NEOZ 10 December 2020 09: 38
                    -4
                    Quote: Ingvar 72
                    Can't I get you a napkin after dinner?

                    yes, be so kind.
              2. NEOZ
                NEOZ 10 December 2020 09: 10
                -13%
                Quote: Ingvar 72
                You are not tired of lying and covering up all the accelerating plunder of the country?

                my eyes tell me that the country is getting richer !!!!!
                constant construction projects outside the window, traffic jams from expensive foreign cars even at lunchtime, construction of social facilities, even in small towns (sports and entertainment centers, ice arenas, stadiums, swimming pools).
                what kind of robbery of the country are you talking about?
                1. Ingvar 72
                  Ingvar 72 10 December 2020 09: 16
                  +8
                  Quote: NEOZ
                  my eyes tell me that the country is getting richer !!!!!

                  Yes, yes, and that is why spending on medicine in the 21-year budget has been reduced by 11%. This is now that. The spending on social services, and even on defense, has also been cut. On the other hand, expenses for the Russian Guard have been increased. Let's live it up! laughing
                  1. NEOZ
                    NEOZ 10 December 2020 09: 36
                    -7
                    Quote: Ingvar 72
                    spending on medicine in the budget for 21 years has been reduced by 11%. This is now that.

                    expenses have been brought back to normal, just in 2020 there was an overspending (medical payments, etc.).
                    Quote: Ingvar 72
                    On the other hand, expenditures on Rosgvardia have been increased.

                    then the state considers the main threat within the Russian Federation.
                    1. Ingvar 72
                      Ingvar 72 10 December 2020 10: 24
                      +7
                      Quote: NEOZ
                      costs are brought to normal
                      In Nazi Germany, the Ost plan was the same as the norm.
                      Quote: NEOZ
                      then the state considers the main threat within the Russian Federation.

                      That is, the people are a threat. Well, this very well reflects the essence of the state.
                      1. NEOZ
                        NEOZ 10 December 2020 10: 42
                        -8
                        Quote: Ingvar 72
                        That is, the people are a threat. Well, this very well reflects the essence of the state.

                        the maniac chikatilo was part of the people, by the way ... according to your logic, let him continue to maniac?
                        Quote: Ingvar 72
                        In Nazi Germany, the Ost plan was the same as the norm.

                        and what is bad for the Germans in terms of "Ost"?
                      2. Ingvar 72
                        Ingvar 72 10 December 2020 11: 22
                        +4
                        Quote: NEOZ
                        the maniac Chikatilo was part of the people, by the way ...

                        Is the National Guard dealing with maniacs? Or is he looking for criminals? By the way, the criminal investigation department has now been reduced so much that 3-5 lands have been hung on one land operative. This significantly affected the quality of their work.
                        Quote: NEOZ
                        and what is bad for the Germans in terms of "Ost"?

                        Well, if you, defending the authorities and the government, associate them with the Germans, then of course, cuts in spending on social services, medicine and education, then this is the norm, here I agree with you. But then you should associate yourself with the Vlasovites and the policemen. wink
                      3. NEOZ
                        NEOZ 10 December 2020 15: 02
                        -7
                        Quote: Ingvar 72
                        costs are brought to normal
                        In Nazi Germany, the Ost plan was the same as the norm.

                        so you associate them, not me ...
                        breed for the manipulation of bulk fans, I don't need ...
                        ps
                        Recently, the topic of fascism / Hitler and so on often pops up ... a new training manual?
                      4. Ingvar 72
                        Ingvar 72 10 December 2020 15: 42
                        +6
                        Quote: NEOZ
                        new training manual?

                        No, logical conclusions based on a comparative analysis of the government's actions and the Ost plan. request
                        But don't you think that you have quietly moved away from the topic of selling the Motherland by the current government?
                  2. victor50
                    victor50 11 December 2020 16: 59
                    +1
                    Quote: NEOZ
                    the maniac chikatilo was part of the people, by the way ... according to your logic, let him continue to maniac?

                    And what does the National Guard have to do with the exposure and capture of maniacs?
                  3. NEOZ
                    NEOZ 14 December 2020 11: 33
                    -1
                    Quote: victor50
                    And what does the National Guard have to do with the exposure and capture of maniacs?

                    structure of the Ministry of Internal Affairs
        2. victor50
          victor50 11 December 2020 16: 56
          +3
          Quote: NEOZ
          my eyes tell me that the country is getting richer !!!!!

          What is this? request
          1. NEOZ
            NEOZ 14 December 2020 11: 34
            -2
            Quote: victor50
            What is this?

            ours - RF.
  • prapor55
    prapor55 9 December 2020 17: 46
    +4
    at the moment the first person is commenting on the sharp rise in prices for basic foodstuffs - this is more important for him, but this is my hypothesis.
  • NEOZ
    NEOZ 9 December 2020 16: 14
    -13%
    Quote: prapor55
    And to start de-dollarization and ruble investments in the real sector of the economy, the political will of the first person of the state is needed.

    apparently you have a vague idea of ​​the world economy ...
    1. aybolyt678
      aybolyt678 9 December 2020 16: 23
      +15
      Quote: NEOZ
      apparently you have a vague idea of ​​the world economy ...

      it is the will and capabilities of the leader that determine the course of the country's economy. Look at the history of what kind of leader is the economy! Stalin is one. Khrushchev -Different! Brezhnev is the third and Gorbachev is exactly the same as he is. So it is with Putin - on the road you drive a sheer abundance of everything and in your heart you understand that all this is exaggerated. Not ours. I, among my friends, do not have a single engineer working in their specialty. Among fellow veterinarians with education, only every 5 works in their specialty, the rest are builders, shabashniks, they travel to the north., Hucksters. and even moonshines !!!
      1. NEOZ
        NEOZ 9 December 2020 16: 25
        -21%
        Quote: aybolyt678
        it is the will and capabilities of the leader that determine the course of the country's economy.

        what nonsense ????? Saddam and Gaddafi had both the will and the opportunities ... something did not come together ...
        1. The popuas
          The popuas 9 December 2020 16: 30
          +10
          Found something to compare fool
          1. NEOZ
            NEOZ 9 December 2020 16: 38
            -14%
            Quote: Popuas
            Found something to compare

            Give an example of a successful country, similar to the Russian Federation, where the will and capabilities of the leader determine the course of the country's economy.
            give an example of a country where your advice has been successfully applied!
            and if there are no such countries, then explain their absence.
            ps
            maybe your advice is utopian?
        2. aybolyt678
          aybolyt678 9 December 2020 17: 55
          +6
          Quote: NEOZ
          there was both the will and the possibilities ..... something did not fuse ...

          there was no way to mean. .. Golden Dinar, an independent currency, its own railway ... too much appetite ... and more: I had to write correctly
          1. NEOZ
            NEOZ 10 December 2020 09: 12
            -4
            Quote: aybolyt678
            and again: I had to write correctly

            I have a derivative from another word, where the root is "crap" ...)))))))))))))))))))))))))))
            joke.)
        3. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
          10 December 2020 05: 47
          +2
          Quote: NEOZ
          Saddam and Gaddafi had both the will and the possibilities ..... something did not come together ...

          It was just with Kadaffi that everything grew together
      2. NEOZ
        NEOZ 9 December 2020 16: 28
        -18%
        Quote: aybolyt678
        I, among my acquaintances, do not have a single engineer working by profession.

        homeless people have friends and homeless people, respectively, rich people have!
        Quote: aybolyt678
        sheer abundance of everything and in my heart you understand that all this is exaggerated.

        especially traffic jams and foreign cars ...
        Quote: aybolyt678
        I, among my acquaintances, do not have a single engineer working by profession.

        for that you have friends who have large cottages / apartments / SUVs ...
        1. aybolyt678
          aybolyt678 9 December 2020 18: 09
          +10
          Quote: NEOZ
          homeless people have friends and homeless people, respectively, rich people have!

          I have my own production smile small, but I'm not a bum laughing
          Quote: NEOZ
          especially traffic jams and foreign cars.

          absolutely right! if you convert the entire mass of cars into money, then 90% of cars are foreign junk! if we dream up and invest this amount in our production, then we could become happy laughing autarchy
          Quote: NEOZ
          for that you have friends who have large summer cottages / apartments / SUV

          I myself have 311 sq.m. housing. and Japanese SUVs. And this is thanks to my education. Soviet. Academic degree. The circle of acquaintances is very wide due to the same. But this is more an exception, I know unemployed candidates of science! there are more of them. The well-being of the economy is directly proportional to the presence of the link: Science - implementation - production. Where is our science ??? The only one where we are still ahead is the thermonuclear fusion installation in Sarov. Which, after launch, will be copied from us and we will catch up again .. because there is no political Will to protect our achievements.
          1. NEOZ
            NEOZ 10 December 2020 08: 42
            -4
            Quote: aybolyt678
            but I'm not a bum

            don't take my words literally, I was speaking metaphorically ...
            Quote: aybolyt678
            if you convert the entire mass of cars into money, then 90% of cars are foreign junk! if we dream up and invest this amount in our production, then we could become a happy autarchy

            so we were already there!
            there are no cars on the roads, for that we rivet aircraft carriers ... but people wanted bread and circuses ...
            Quote: aybolyt678
            I myself have 311 sq.m. housing. and Japanese SUVs. And this is thanks to my education. Soviet. Academic degree.

            in the autocracy, for which you stand up, you would have an apartment like everyone else, well, maybe an improved layout with an office (if you have scientific papers and copyright certificates).
            Quote: aybolyt678
            The well-being of the economy is directly proportional to the presence of the link: Science - implementation - production.

            complete nonsense ..... give examples of 10 countries that clearly have such a bunch.
            practice is the criterion of truth, isn't it?
            1. aybolyt678
              aybolyt678 10 December 2020 09: 03
              +4
              Quote: NEOZ
              give examples of 10 countries that clearly have such a link.

              well, you make requests laughing 10 countries !!!! for example the USSR in the period 35-55. In general, in America today there are two sciences - one works at the level of rapid implementation and the other science, in closed protected areas, works at the level of 15 years ahead. They have a concept of doing things that we cannot even understand.
              The fact is that science is on guard of money. And money is the hypostasis of production. American money, which is part of our gold reserves, is the hypostasis of world production. Our Central Bank is obliged to keep in circulation exactly as much money as it has in its storerooms. These are the rules, so our money is actually their money. And we cannot do without elements of autarchy
              1. NEOZ
                NEOZ 10 December 2020 09: 32
                -2
                Quote: aybolyt678
                works 15 years ahead

                I'm thinking about 150 years, not 15 ...
                Quote: aybolyt678
                They have a concept of doing things that we cannot even understand.

                real science for them and pseudoscience for the rest ... it is!
                Quote: aybolyt678
                so our money is actually their money.

                I agree!
                from this postulate and must proceed ...
                ps
                in general, it reminds me of Russian folk tales ...
                like a snake they chop off their head (fight against the exchange rate / inflation / stagnation / deflation / refinancing), and the head is constantly growing new ...
                1. aybolyt678
                  aybolyt678 10 December 2020 09: 58
                  +4
                  Quote: NEOZ
                  from this postulate and must proceed ...

                  where to proceed? or what? sorry
                2. aybolyt678
                  aybolyt678 10 December 2020 10: 04
                  +4
                  Quote: NEOZ
                  in general, it reminds me of Russian folk tales ...
                  like a snake they chop off their head (fight against the exchange rate / inflation / stagnation / deflation / refinancing), and the head is constantly growing new ...

                  but to me it reminds me of a witch hunt, or a shadow boxing ... we fight with the effect, not the cause
            2. aybolyt678
              aybolyt678 10 December 2020 09: 49
              +3
              Quote: NEOZ
              so we were already there!
              there are no cars on the roads, for that we rivet aircraft carriers ... but people wanted bread and circuses ...

              we were not autarky .. we were an honorary donor ... we built power plants in India, roads in Afghanistan, canals in Africa ... at least we could leave it as our property on paper, no, in Dar !! simultaneously helped, for example, Somalia and Mozambique, they built communism with airfields and they bombed each other safely smile our airfields with our bombs !!! a complete lack of understanding of the situation in the world I observe in late socialism !! It could not have ended otherwise than the collapse of the USSR.
  • Roman070280
    Roman070280 9 December 2020 15: 26
    +4
    Thus, even a complete refusal of the Russian Federation from the dollar will lead to a decrease in dollar settlements in the world for goods by about only 1,3% in commodity payments and by 0,6% in payments for services. And, obviously, this is not at all the order of numbers that could seriously affect the global stability of the US dollar.


    Considering how many dollars the population has in their hands .. well, it will be sooooo difficult to achieve a situation where these pieces of paper will suddenly cease to be in demand in exchange for something else ..
    1. Stirbjorn
      Stirbjorn 9 December 2020 15: 34
      +6
      Considering how many dollars the population has in their hands .. well, it will be sooooo difficult to achieve a situation where these pieces of paper will suddenly cease to be in demand in exchange for something else ..
      Well, taking into account the current interest on deposits, and even the income tax will be introduced from 2021, who will keep the savings in rubles? Especially against the backdrop of the weakening ruble. There are no stupid ones, in the 90s all these de-dollarizations already took place
      1. NEOZ
        NEOZ 9 December 2020 16: 18
        -12%
        Quote: Stirbjorn
        Well, given the current interest on deposits,

        correlates with loan interest ...
        Quote: Stirbjorn
        who will keep the savings in rubles?

        and who keeps savings in dollars at 0,25% per annum?
        Quote: Stirbjorn
        There are no stupid ones, in the 90s all these de-dollarizations already took place

        in the 90s there was just the opposite process - the dollarization of the economy ...
        1. Stirbjorn
          Stirbjorn 9 December 2020 17: 25
          +6
          Quote: NEOZ
          and who keeps savings in dollars at 0,25% per annum?

          There is profit on the fall of the ruble, or rather not profit, but simply the preservation of savings.
        2. aybolyt678
          aybolyt678 9 December 2020 18: 22
          +5
          Quote: NEOZ
          in the 90s there was just the opposite process - the dollarization of the economy.

          Money is a quantitative expression of Value, and Value is productive labor embodied in a commodity. Money is the hypostasis of Labor. When in the 90s rubles were replaced by dollars, we lost the meaning of our own production. Therefore, at least correlate in the relationship of deposits with loans, the economy stagnates.
          1. NEOZ
            NEOZ 10 December 2020 09: 18
            -1
            Quote: aybolyt678
            When in the 90s rubles were replaced by dollars, we lost the meaning of our own production

            Quote: aybolyt678
            the economy is stagnating.

            why is the PRC economy growing / growing?
            according to your theory, the growth of the PRC is not possible ...
            1. aybolyt678
              aybolyt678 10 December 2020 17: 29
              +1
              Quote: NEOZ
              why is the PRC economy growing / growing?
              according to your theory, the growth of the PRC is not possible ...

              How is this not possible? they have production of everything! they are now buying up scientists around the world. The Chinese government provides grants to pay scientists. Another thing is that they cannot do the best, because the best is in America.
  • Glory1974
    Glory1974 9 December 2020 15: 48
    +12
    in theory, the WTO is an excellent thing. And our entry there in August 2012 was broadcast to us as a great victory for Russian diplomacy.

    Well, diplomacy clearly has nothing to do with it. This is a victory for raw materials producers who pump subsoil to the West, and expect to buy everything else there.
    The authorities are basically all like that. Therefore, they still hope to make friends with the Americans and return everything "as before."
    Until the people in power change, there will be no changes.
    It is clear to any sane person that you need to be strong economically, then you will be reckoned with. Judging by the deeds, the government thinks differently. Are they fools? No! Hence such a course is being pursued deliberately.
    1. NEOZ
      NEOZ 9 December 2020 16: 19
      -10%
      Quote: glory1974
      The authorities are basically all like that. Therefore, they still hope to make friends with the Americans and return everything "as before."

      why then did they take Crimea?
      1. aybolyt678
        aybolyt678 9 December 2020 18: 23
        +5
        Quote: NEOZ
        why then did they take Crimea?

        Crimea is a launch pad for missiles.
      2. Glory1974
        Glory1974 10 December 2020 15: 49
        0
        Among other things, how to control the Black Sea without Crimea? And without the control of the sea, you cannot build the Blue Stream.
  • Sahalinets
    Sahalinets 9 December 2020 15: 52
    +4
    Well, we are waiting, from the second coming of the Slain Raccoons!
  • nikvic46
    nikvic46 9 December 2020 15: 53
    +4
    Here we need to figure out how America protects its currency, and how we are. How we protect our ruble is a direct violation of the Constitution. We are not aiming to move away from the dollar. And this is evidenced by a number of laws.
    1. NEOZ
      NEOZ 9 December 2020 16: 20
      -12%
      Quote: nikvic46
      Here we need to figure out how America protects its currency, and how we are.

      do you know why the US does not have gold reserves? .... no, you don’t know? - when you find out, then write! ...
      1. 2 Level Advisor
        2 Level Advisor 9 December 2020 17: 26
        +9
        Lawrence, I will answer in your style, prove that the United States does not have gold reserves!
  • pereselenec
    pereselenec 9 December 2020 16: 14
    +1
    Secondly, it is the stability of the dollar as a reserve currency. Earlier, the US dollar stood firm like the Cheops pyramid. And by his inviolability he guaranteed the preservation of the capital invested in it. But today, the huge external debt of the United States (growing at a truly gigantic pace in combination with the regular launch of the Fed's printing press) has led to the fact that the dollar has become apprehensive.


    I am ready to buy back from the author of the article any amount of unstable wobbling public debt dollars for spiritual, unshakable rubles at today's rate. I see no reason to refuse - after all, the dollar is wobbling and will soon collapse.

  • Rurikovich
    Rurikovich 9 December 2020 16: 15
    +11
    Eco listed one of my authoritative authors what smile
    A plus! Material on the topic of the day good yes
    Where politics prevails, it is difficult to seek justice for the economy. And we are Slavs with our sense of justice and as a thorn in the eye for the West, therefore we need to develop our civilization, only drawing conclusions from the last 30 years of devastation, revising approaches to the economic structure of the state. For what is good for the Western bourgeoisie is death for our people ... repeat
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 9 December 2020 16: 55
      -13%
      Russia in a market economy like the whole world and the bourgeois everywhere - what are you going to revise there is only one direction the more demand, the more production, the more profit the state, respectively, the growth of the welfare of citizens, respectively, and development and vice versa, the less demand is all minus the whole world lives on these waves, and yes, unlike all other developed countries, during a pandemic, Russia holds the best in terms of a fall in the economy, an increase in unemployment, etc. the past devastation of the 90s and crises in the 2000s and 10s hardened we live within our means GDP will fall by 5% in Japan by 25% the United States has tens of millions of unemployed. And as for de-dollarization, it is possible only partially - there will never be a complete de-dollarization, since the dollar remains and will continue to be the world's universal monetary unit.
      1. Igor Semenov
        Igor Semenov 9 December 2020 21: 05
        +4
        unlike all other developed countries, during a pandemic, Russia holds up the best in terms of a fall in the economy, an increase in unemployment
        It is very difficult to fall off the floor
        1. Vadim237
          Vadim237 11 December 2020 15: 57
          -3
          "It is very difficult to fall off the floor" You tell this to the countries of Africa, South America, Asia and all the others who, according to the list of economic development below our 11th line, have always dreamed of our "field" and will continue to dream.
  • Ross xnumx
    Ross xnumx 9 December 2020 16: 18
    +5
    The tale of how the Russian Federation abandoned the dollar

    The tale of how the USSR abandoned the dollar

    On February 28, 1950, a historic decree of the Council of Ministers of the USSR was issued, which put an end to the pegging of the Soviet ruble to the overseas currency, as it had been since July 1937. It was transferred to a "more stable - gold basis". 0,222168 grams of pure gold for 1 rub. By that time, the country had accumulated a lot of precious metal! The decree was hastily prepared on the personal instructions of Stalin. On the eve of the document's publication, Iosif Vissarionovich personally set a new exchange rate for our “gold” against the green buck. "At most - 4 rubles." So I wrote directly on the project. In the presence of Chinese Prime Minister Zhou Enlai and Albanian leader Enver Hoxha. The "Father of Nations" loved effects.
    And he didn't pull the rubber. The very next day, March 1, the new exchange rate and gold rate entered into force.
    That would be so today, with a single stroke of the pen to establish the price of a dollar in the Kremlin: "At most - 10 rubles!" And we will all be happy.

    And there’s
    Tale of Bygone Years:
    How Stalin freed the ruble from the dollar. Stalin's plan to create a common "non-dollar" market
    https://topwar.ru/45402-kak-stalin-osvobodil-rubl-ot-dollara-stalinskiy-plan-sozdaniya-obschego-nedollarovogo-rynka.html
  • Virus-free crown
    Virus-free crown 9 December 2020 16: 20
    +6
    As long as our officials and deputies keep their "hard earned" over the hill, there can be no question of any de-dollarization !!! am
  • iouris
    iouris 9 December 2020 16: 24
    +5
    Quote: "Economic theory explains the utility of the WTO as follows." End of quotation.
    Theory cannot explain the usefulness of the WTO. The meaning of joining the WTO is that the Russian Federation supplies energy resources at low prices, and buys everything that is necessary to maintain "social stability" ("stabilizer"). Therefore - the Ministry of Industry and Trade.
    The main condition for Russia's admission to the WTO was the abolition of all state (mandatory) standards of the USSR (and these are tens of thousands of names). To achieve this lofty goal, in 1992, the Law on the Protection of Consumer Rights (Goods from the USA) and the Federal Law "On Technical Regulation" of December 27.12.2002, 184 N 22-FZ were adopted, and by August 2012, XNUMX, there were no mandatory standards in the Russian Federation.
    It is noteworthy that the text No. 184-FZ adopted by the State Duma of the Russian Federation is a translation (from English, of course). Supervised the process of the RUIE (Russian) Union of Entrepreneurs (what are they doing?).
    So the economy of the USSR was destroyed. And what came of it, judge for yourself.
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 11 December 2020 16: 00
      -2
      "The meaning of joining the WTO is that the Russian Federation supplies energy resources at low prices" - Russia supplies all goods and services at market prices and there are no low prices and there have not been any - enough to carry this nonsense.
  • Doccor18
    Doccor18 9 December 2020 16: 38
    +9
    .. with import substitution in our Fatherland it turned out somehow awkward ..

    It is impossible to do this without industry .. and it has been diligently rotted for the past 30 years.
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 11 December 2020 16: 04
      -6
      "With import substitution in our Fatherland it turned out somehow awkward .." Since 2014, almost 1600 items of foreign-made products have been replaced with domestic ones.
      "And she has been diligently bullied for the past 30 years." The first one does not dock with the second - everything that did not bring money was turned off everything that brings and will bring developed and develop in all directions of the industry. Stop whining from scratch.
  • Doccor18
    Doccor18 9 December 2020 16: 45
    +10
    For example, support for agriculture, which is carried out today within the framework of the import substitution policy ...

    What's the point of this support if the overwhelming percentage of all agricultural machinery, pesticides, seed and biological material is a product of a foreign manufacturer?
  • Engineer
    Engineer 9 December 2020 16: 46
    0
    My personal opinion is that the Americans will bring their country to the "Big Badabum" in the economy.

    Again?
    In essence, Russia today has at least two reasons for striving to move away from the dollar. Moreover, their weight is such that one

    Today, the overvalued exchange rate of the dollar and euro against the ruble is the main thing that keeps our economy afloat.
    We will impose taxes on oil and gas, replenish the budget, but let them recapture everything when exporting at the expense of a cheap ruble.
    With this it would be necessary to begin. On the other hand, only the stupid or lazy do not know about this and about the budgetary rule and the NWF and the impoverishment of the people and the reduction of the internal market associated with such a policy.
    Point two. in the article about de-dollarization, do not consider possible alternatives to the dollar, well, it's kind of bad manners

    Article hack-work of the level of Kharaluzhny and Staver.

    And even with a sequel ...
    1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
      9 December 2020 17: 04
      +7
      Quote: Engineer
      Today, the overvalued exchange rate of the dollar and euro against the ruble is the main thing that keeps our economy afloat.

      In short - delirium
  • Konstantin Shevchenko
    Konstantin Shevchenko 9 December 2020 16: 54
    0
    The problem is not with the United States. The USA is like the Roman warriors guarding globalization. The problem with the globalists. Russia does not agree with the distribution of labor proposed by the globalists. As long as the pressure is being applied peacefully, it is similar to the situation of 1853. We understand that if we want to enjoy the benefits of "civilization" we must be in the general system. And to be in the system, we must share our sovereignty. As was the case at the end of the 17th century, it was especially strongly expressed with the return of Peter; foreign specialists held high positions in all institutions of power and science; a ban was introduced on the sale of Russian manufactured goods. In exchange, Russia at the managerial level received Western management reforms with Western culture. And the Russian people received open slavery.
    1. iouris
      iouris 9 December 2020 18: 13
      0
      Quote: Konstantin Shevchenko
      the Russian people received outright slavery

      Quote: Konstantin Shevchenko
      We understand that if we want to enjoy the benefits of "civilization" we must be in the general system.
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      2. Konstantin Shevchenko
        Konstantin Shevchenko 9 December 2020 21: 39
        0
        Yes, do what they tell you, perish where they say. For that you have an iPhone and credit as a bonus.
  • Ryaruav
    Ryaruav 9 December 2020 21: 13
    +4
    the top is all ours sorry for the expression bumbled to the west that's all
  • Korax71
    Korax71 9 December 2020 21: 37
    +3
    Andrei hi article on the topic of the day lol there are only a number of interesting points: 1. for what purpose did you remember whether the external debt is not okay? or do you have some inside information that they refused or cannot service it? in fact, its size is not as terrible as you trying to present it in an article.
    2. laughing and, of course, where are we without a machine. FRS does not print dollars, they are printed by the Federal Bureau of Engraving and Printing, which is structurally part of the Ministry of Finance. In order for dollars to be printed, the FRS leaves a deposit equal to the nominal value of this money to the Ministry of Finance .and, yet, yes, the Fed can only issue cash and only paper money. wassat (Table 3 of the Currency column). I'm afraid to disappoint you, but in a year they printed about 250 lards with a total money supply of almost 19 trillion.
    1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
      10 December 2020 05: 50
      +1
      Quote: Korax71
      for what purpose did you remember whether the external debt is not okay? or do you have some inside information that they refused or cannot service it? in fact, its size is not as terrible as you are trying to present it in the article.

      It is not the amount of debt that is terrible, but the budget deficit against the background of other negative phenomena in the economy
      Quote: Korax71
      I'm afraid to disappoint you, but in a year they printed about 250lars

      I understand that the topic is familiar to you, but what does this have to do with what is written in the article?
      1. Korax71
        Korax71 10 December 2020 08: 21
        +2
        Ну recourse
        [/ quote] But today, the huge external debt of the United States (growing at a truly gigantic pace in combination with the regular launch of the Fed's printing press) has led to the fact that the dollar began to be looked down on with apprehension. [quote]

        This is more far-fetched. The volume of printed babos is very uncritical in order to somehow influence the position of the dollar in the world market, especially since this entire amount has been stretched over the course of a year. The statistics are very interesting, in your article you clearly show everything, but if look a little wider, the same "Swift" payment system shows an increase in the number of settlements in dollars over the past 2 years, against the backdrop of a fall in the pound and yuan.
        1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
          10 December 2020 13: 33
          +1
          Quote: Korax71
          It's more far-fetched.

          Deutsch Bank. I'm not fantasizing myself
  • nobody75
    nobody75 9 December 2020 22: 24
    0
    Russia in the WTO
    Why did we have to go there?

    For the sake of "black" and "non-ferrous" metallurgists - exporters, against whom anti-dumping investigations were regularly launched ... This is so at first glance ...
    And if you dig deeper ... All Soviet GOSTs ceased to operate at once ...
    How did this affect our industry?
    Sincerely
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 11 December 2020 16: 08
      0
      "All Soviet GOSTs ..." They are not applicable to new products, and they were rejected. And if you release bullshit, then the client base will quickly lose, just like a business, for this you can go to jail. It's bad that not all entrepreneurs get it, but when it comes late.
      1. nobody75
        nobody75 11 December 2020 17: 38
        0
        Not applicable ... To "condensed milk", "doctoral" sausage, to tomato paste, etc. GOSTs are not applicable ... to nuclear reactors, turbines, GTZ and helicopter gearboxes, etc.
        And all these products became obsolete at once along with "Zorea" right? And new tech. were the regulations developed in six months or a year? Aren't you funny yourself?
        Sincerely
  • Mikhail3
    Mikhail3 10 December 2020 10: 59
    +1
    The availability and cost of investment loans, for example.
    You can already laugh ...
  • hermit
    hermit 10 December 2020 11: 40
    0
    De-dollarization? It couldn't be easier. Let them sell oil and gas for rubles. But Russia sells energy resources even to Belarus for dollars. If the government does not trust its currency, then who in the world will trust it? In our time, the value of a currency depends on the amount of commodity mass with which it is provided. The currency of a country that produces very little will depreciate much faster than countries with developed industrial production. And no one needs such a currency in the world. Perhaps the yuan will replace the dollar as the world currency. What the Americans, by the way, are terribly afraid of. But for Russia this will not change anything. Therefore, all the talk about de-dollarization is about nothing. No product - no money.
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 11 December 2020 16: 15
      0
      Faster new Bitcoins will come as a universal currency, but it will not be soon.
  • Antonio_Mariarti
    Antonio_Mariarti 10 December 2020 22: 00
    +1
    Until 2014, the Russian Federation did everything to enter the Western world (from 2010-2013, rumors about NATO ceased to be rumors, how many exercises, a treaty, and so on), or rather, it was almost there, and an agreement with the EU on visa-free travel is ready It was. It is still unclear why the Russian Federation suddenly wanted to go against it. In vain, having returned Crimea, we lost Ukraine, part of the economy and the Cold War. The price is too high, because there would be nothing with the Crimeans. As after the Maidan in 2004 it was not the same.
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 11 December 2020 16: 19
      -2
      Russia did not lose any part of the economy - it took Crimea and threw Bandera's rogue Ukraine around the neck of the EU and the IMF, while they themselves began import substitution and whoever said what, and it has borne fruit weighty in all areas over the past six years.
      1. Antonio_Mariarti
        Antonio_Mariarti 12 December 2020 16: 42
        0
        Quote: Vadim237
        Russia did not lose any part of the economy - it took Crimea and threw Bandera's rogue Ukraine around the neck of the EU and the IMF, while they themselves began import substitution and whoever said what, and it has borne fruit weighty in all areas over the past six years.

        hahahaha, I hope it's a rofl.
  • Vladimir1155
    Vladimir1155 12 December 2020 12: 30
    +1
    dear Andrey took up politics and economics. Somewhat superficially, especially the phrase We ... ... Who are We? We are different ..... A Bit of History .... The world's large cross-border capital with the aim of ruining competing national entrepreneurs and national centers of power in the form of monarchies invented communism, that is, the power of international monopolies and the impoverished population (proletariat) without a layer of national power. Which was realized in Russia, Lenin, Sverdlov, Trotsky. International corporations, through the devastation of famine and concessions, plundered the USSR without hindrance, but Sverdlov sent Kaplan to kill Lenin and rule alone, What Lenin learned, and he removed Sverdlov through the hands of Dr. Guetier through Stalin. In 1937, Stalin refused to cooperate with international capital, introduced the gold ruble, introduced an independent national government, on the idea of ​​creating socialism in a single country, expelled concessions, and killed Trotsky and his henchmen as representatives of the international, that is, international cross-border capital.
    The international monopolies tried to strangle the young independent up to still large state, stopped the supply of those goods that could not be done, such as rubber and bearings. But the USSR itself built bearing factories with incredible efforts, and Lebedev invented synthetic rubber. In addition, plans for military aggression were continuously made, which were implemented in 1941. Hitler was fed and brought to power for this very purpose.
    History knows total genocide through the military aggression of the first socialist state in the world and the successful Paraguay created in the 19th century ...
    To destroy the USSR, nuclear weapons were invented, and at the first stage Hiroshima and Nagasaki were destroyed, in order to first check the "club for these Russian guys", and secondly to deceive Stalin and not give him the promised half of Hokaido.
    But the great manipulator Lipman convinced the US president not to bomb the USSR, but to defeat him in the Cold War using Lipman's technologies. This was done in 1992. The people deceived by liars betrayed their country and surrendered it for imaginary trinkets, native beads ... then the country was given over to plunder, in order to destroy its economic independence, and this independence is no longer there.
    The world is controlled by one corporation (VANGUARD), affiliated with the private owners of the US Federal Reserve, it controls all governments and economies, the media and intelligence services, the instruments of international governance of the IMF, WTO and other including the government of the Russian Federation and even more so the Central Bank of the Russian Federation. The ruble is a simulacrum of the dollar, free emission of the ruble is prohibited, and only the US Federal Reserve receives all world emission revenues. The USA feeds on global inflation and rob the whole world through it. The Russian Federation pays a slave tribute to them, in the form of "sovereign" funds, foreign exchange "reserves" and offshore freedom. The economy of the Russian Federation is 50 percent powered by the sale of oil and gas, and their buyers are shell, esso, etc., all of which are branches of VANGUARD, that is, the Russian Federation can be economically suppressed by simply pressing a finger to stop buying gas and oil (this is how dumping killed the USSR because the Middle Eastern suppliers are belong to the same VANGUARD). Putin flutters, does not give up controlling stakes in Rosneft and Gazprom, but the Russian Federation can only be saved by the planned big war in the Middle East and the impossibility in this case to refuse to buy energy resources from the Russian Federation or some other miracle.
    So who are we? people? government and the Central Bank faithfully serving the US Federal Reserve? Putin and Sechin? national business? international business in the Russian Federation robbing the Russian Federation? Who is this We dear Andrey?
    1. D. Dan
      D. Dan 26 December 2020 04: 39
      +1
      That's right, damn it .... :( You are right.
  • Radikal
    Radikal 12 December 2020 15: 18
    +1
    Quote: NEOZ
    Quote: Ingvar 72
    Do you need to prove things that are well known?

    it is common knowledge that you have gills and you are a reptilian ... but I would prefer to believe the doctors' opinion ...
    Quote: Ingvar 72
    In addition, Mishustin, with his signature, lifted the restriction on the export of gold from Russia by gold producers.

    what nonsense !!!!!! where do you get all this ???
    here goes:
    Export
    Export duty

    No

    Export licensing

    No (basic)

    »Licensed

    Raw precious metals (only unique and non-refining nuggets) Table 1.

    Export is carried out upon presentation of a license issued in accordance with the Instruction approved by the Decision of the EEC Board of November 6, 2014 N 199, and an act of state control.

    Decision of the EEC N 30 (clause 2.10) dated 21.04.15 as amended by the EEC Decision dated 6.10.15. N 131

    Regulations see Appendix 14. Placement under customs procedures is carried out at specialized customs posts.

    »Licensed

    Raw gold or silver (only refined gold or silver in the form of bars, plates, powder and granules, as well as gold used for minting coins) Table 1.

    Export is carried out upon presentation of a license issued in accordance with the Instruction approved by the Decision of the EEC Board of November 6, 2014 N 199, and an act of state control.

    Decision of the EEC N 30 (clause 2.10) dated 21.04.15 as amended by the EEC Decision dated 6.10.15. N 131

    Regulations see Appendix 14. Placement under customs procedures is carried out at specialized customs posts.

    Dual use

    No

    Export quotas

    No

    Other features

    »A strategically important product

    Precious metals *

    The goods are included in the list of strategically important goods and resources for the purposes of Article 226.1 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation.

    Government Decree N 923 of 13.09.2012.

    »Places of registration

    Places for declaring precious metals and precious stones are specialized customs posts specified in the Order:

    Order of the Federal Customs Service of the Russian Federation N 971 of 12.05.11/XNUMX/XNUMX.

    »Marking by means of identification

    Gold in other rough forms

    From June 1, 2018 to November 1, 2018, an experiment is being carried out on the territory of the Russian Federation to mark certain types of precious metals, precious stones and products from them.

    Resolution of the Government of the Russian Federation from 24.03.2018 N 321

    Mandatory application of identification means has not yet been determined, the documents are under development.


    LEARN THE MATCH !!!!!!!!!!!!

    Teach yourself, Lavrenty, and see the link .... Ready to take a dozen more? winked bully
    https://eadaily.com/ru/news/2020/03/26/posle-obrashcheniya-putina-iz-rossii-v-london-uletela-tonna-zolota
  • Charik
    Charik 13 December 2020 16: 43
    0
    Have the food prices increased in the bunker too?
    1. Alexander Kalashnikov
      Alexander Kalashnikov 28 December 2020 21: 04
      0
      If you personally, my dear herr (or mister?) Charik, are SO interested in the answer to this question, then I recommend that you ask it directly to the main inhabitant of that very "bunker" by phone 8-800-200-23-16 or 8-495-606- 36-02 (toll call) or 8 800 200 40 40 (toll free within Russia). In addition, you can make an appointment with the aforementioned main inhabitant of that very "bunker" with the assistance of the website http://letters.kremlin.ru/electronic-receptions/ and ask him a question personally.
      But something tells you that to implement the recommended above you enuresis, preferring 3,14 to surf the Internet, considering yourself very witty.
      1. Charik
        Charik 28 December 2020 22: 14
        0
        What happened? Kremlebots were released from the bunker, or did Mr. Herr connect the Internet and reread articles from the last century?
        1. Alexander Kalashnikov
          Alexander Kalashnikov 31 December 2020 09: 14
          0
          Kremlebots, bunker ...
          As expected: brain muscle liberalism in a neglected form. Calm down, sick, the orderlies have already left.
  • Left shot
    Left shot 14 December 2020 06: 44
    -2
    Quote: NEOZ
    Saddam and Gaddafi had both the will and the possibilities ..... something did not come together ...

    Yeltsinoid-1 and Yeltsinoid-2 simply passed them. For - Judas.
  • D. Dan
    D. Dan 26 December 2020 04: 36
    +1
    The article is good, sound, without a hurray of patriotism, but at the same time, and without an all-consuming sob.
    It is a pity that many of the participants in the condemnation are openly anti-Russian trolls, and simply, who do not feed on bread, let me sing the Requiem for Russia
  • Alexander Kalashnikov
    Alexander Kalashnikov 28 December 2020 20: 49
    +1
    There is an opinion, comrade. from Chelyabinsk, that the "rejection of the dollar" (that is, "de-dollarization", is it "obesity" ... or "obesity"?) is very clearly divided into two levels. The highest is "macroeconomic" and the lowest is household. The highest level, about which you so wisely inform the readers, is of no concern to me personally - I am retired and have a very indirect relationship to public service and "business". So whether this "de-dollarization" took place or not - I personally don't care.
    But the "dedollarization" of the lower, everyday level has taken place unequivocally.
    I don’t know about you, but personally I (born in 1961) perfectly remember the times (not so long ago) when EVERYTHING was calculated in dollars in Russia - both prices and salaries. EVERYONE assessed their work in dollars - from ministers and generals to prostitutes from the side of Yaroslavka and movers and guest workers. Yes, of course, OFFICIALLY no "dollar" was mentioned. Prices in stores, for example, were exhibited in some "conventional units" (in "cu", in "yyah" or in "killed raccoons") with such a modest mark in small letters - "1 cu is equal to 1 US dollar ". Moreover. Even in contracts concluded by SERIOUS government agencies (for example, the Ministry of Railways, where I served at that time) there was invariably a clause of something like this: "The cost of work under the Agreement is $ XXX. Payment is made in Russian rubles at the MICEX rate of payment day ... "
    It was. But gradually it stopped being. And today we have EVERYTHING in Russia - both prices and salaries are calculated in rubles. And personally, I no longer remember when someone (including traffic cops, "call girls" and guest workers) in Russia would set the price in "ouys", dollars or Jews.
    This is what I mean, regardless of whether or not the "de-dollarization" took place in Russia at the highest level, at the lowest, everyday level, this "de-dollarization" took place without any doubt. And personally, I think that's good.
  • Alexey Lantukh
    Alexey Lantukh 15 January 2021 00: 45
    0
    De-dollarization is about nothing. Just chatter to distract people from the right thoughts. Why? Yes, because if you buy machines (we have almost no production of them), tractors with attachments to plow the land (we hardly produce them), semen to inseminate cows (we also have almost no breeding stock), then do you need dollars or euros there. We mainly receive currency for oil, gas and, to a lesser extent, for other items. As soon as energy prices fell - Russia went to ... So much for de-dollarization. Well, what do you say patriots ??