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Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of Ukraine: At Ilovaisk in 2014, the Ukrainian army surprised Russia and the whole world

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The Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, General Ruslan Khomchak, made a statement regarding the well-known events of 2014 in the Ilovaisk region. According to the Colonel General of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, "the Ukrainian army surprised Russia and the whole world."


At the same time, Khomchak claims that near Ilovaisk the Ukrainian army amazed with "its fighting spirit."

The Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of Ukraine is engaged in myth-making, turning a bitter defeat in the "cauldron" into a "win" for the Ukrainian troops:

They believed that the army in our country was destroyed long ago, that something incomprehensible remained. And therefore, no one expected that we would hold out at Ilovaisk. Then the Russians suggested to me: we are releasing the military from Ilovaisk, and leaving the volunteers. They told me so.

Khomchak said that the Ukrainian volunteers "became a real nightmare for the Russians."

Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces:

I then told them: this will not happen! We had two captured Russian paratroopers, I knew that we would be able to withdraw the troops.

Ruslan Khomchak, who in the summer of 2014 was in the position of commander of the so-called "B" sector, notes that at that time there was little choice for the Ukrainian army.

Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of Ukraine:

And now the battles for Ilovaisk are not over, because not all the dead have been found, not all those found have been identified.

Recall that the previously well-known Semyon Semenchenko, commenting on the events of the Ilovaisk boiler, noted that the official statistics of those who died there are several times underestimated. According to him, at Ilovaisk, Ukraine lost at least a thousand soldiers and officers, and this is only in the Ukrainian Armed Forces. In general, no one really considered the losses of the National Battalions.
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  1. Homos
    Homos 6 December 2020 16: 43
    +169
    There was no limit to surprise. The stench from fighting spirit is still on the entire Internet.
    1. Finches
      Finches 6 December 2020 16: 47
      +129
      Not an eyebrow, but an eye! And then there was a parade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in Sevastopol, which surprised the world even more ... laughing
      1. The black
        The black 6 December 2020 16: 51
        +61
        Looks like a complication after coronavirus in a dude laughing and the weakest link suffered - the brain
        1. Boris Nevzorov
          Boris Nevzorov 6 December 2020 16: 54
          +64
          Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of Ukraine: At Ilovaisk in 2014, the Ukrainian army surprised Russia and the whole world


          I am very sorry that the Kiev junta was released from the Ilovaisk and Debaltsev boilers.
          1. Tatyana
            Tatyana 6 December 2020 17: 38
            +30
            At the same time, Khomchak claims that near Ilovaisk the Ukrainian army amazed with "its fighting spirit."

            If the APU was surprised by the ChKM either in the Ilovaisk cauldron, then only by the CRIMINAL "spirit" of the Bandera punishers as servants of the Nazi fascists during the Second World War

            70% of Ilovaisk residents killed. Punishers of the Armed Forces of Ukraine were taken prisoner. • 28 nov. 2014
            1. Boris Nevzorov
              Boris Nevzorov 6 December 2020 17: 45
              +25
              The only fear is that this could result in another manipulation with the Ilovaisk and Debaltsev boilers, which is what Khomchak blathers.
              There are a number of questions. For example, are there people in Ukrainian politics now who really need truthful materials on this topic? If the answer is yes, we can only welcome such things.
              We sincerely believe that Petrukha, Turchinov, and a number of other characters should be punished for their bloody actions, for violating the constitution, for unleashing a war with their own people ...
              1. Tatyana
                Tatyana 6 December 2020 17: 53
                +13
                Quote: Boris Nevzorov
                We sincerely believe that Petrukha, Turchinov, and a number of other characters should be punished for their bloody actions, for violating the constitution, for unleashing a war with their own people ...

                Do not hope for this, because the ATO was sanctioned by Washington!

                The head of the Ukrainian security service, Valentin Nalyvaichenko, is a CIA agent.
                Nalyvaichenko was recruited by American intelligence during his work as Consul General of the Ukrainian Embassy in Washington. This information was obtained in the course of an investigation conducted by the SBU in conjunction with the Ukrainian prosecutor's office.
                This was announced on the air of the TV channel "Russia 24" by the ex-head of the SBU Alexander Yakimenko.

                scandal - head of the SBU of Ukraine Nalyvaichenko - CIA agent
                1. Boris Nevzorov
                  Boris Nevzorov 6 December 2020 17: 59
                  +12
                  I agree.
                  If we talk about personalities, then, for example, Petrukha, Turchinov and figures of a similar scale are unlikely to be punished in the near future. To do this, you must first get out of the influence of overseas curators, while these characters have protective letters. But nothing lasts forever under the moon
                  1. krot
                    krot 6 December 2020 19: 46
                    +7
                    2014 Ukrainian army surprised Russia
                    Then they were pitiful, but now they surprise with their stupidity.
                    1. figwam
                      figwam 6 December 2020 20: 58
                      +9
                      Near Ilovaisk in 2014, the Ukrainian army surprised Russia and the whole world

                      Debilism has always surprised the whole world.
                2. Gato
                  Gato 6 December 2020 19: 27
                  +5
                  The head of the security service of Ukraine Valentin Nalyvaichenko is a CIA agent

                  And not only (or not so much) the CIA. His participation in Crimean affairs leads to various interesting thoughts. You can read the details of this character's winding biography here, you will probably be surprised:
                  https://dosye.info/Наливайченко,_Валентин_Александрович
                  1. Olddetractor
                    Olddetractor 7 December 2020 13: 37
                    +2
                    Yes, in reality, Andriy Bulba outlived Taras
            2. Horst78
              Horst78 6 December 2020 18: 34
              +6
              This is not Ilovaisk (I mean the video). Perhaps Debaltsevo. Or maybe another place. There were many more boilers.
              1. Tatyana
                Tatyana 6 December 2020 18: 56
                +3
                Quote: Horst78
                This is not Ilovaisk (I mean the video). Perhaps Debaltsevo. Or maybe another place. There were many more boilers.

                Well, that's for sure about Ilovaisk. How the illiterate command destroyed their guys.

                Ilovaisky boiler is the whole truth. A lot of people died. • Dec 14. 2014
                1. Andrei Nikolaevich
                  Andrei Nikolaevich 6 December 2020 22: 51
                  +2
                  More often, parades were held.
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              3. Alex Nevs
                Alex Nevs 6 December 2020 20: 33
                +4
                Seven Vyalikhs from Valtsman Kotlov. Well, the earth for each horse from the waltzman ..... 2x2.
            3. rus-5819
              rus-5819 20 December 2020 19: 44
              0
              May they all be forgotten and cursed forever and ever !!!

              Tatyana! Happy New Year! Let's live, little sister!
              1. Tatyana
                Tatyana 20 December 2020 19: 58
                -1
                Mutually! yes
                Happy New Years, Vadim! drinks
          2. Mar.Tirah
            Mar.Tirah 6 December 2020 18: 11
            +3
            Quote: Boris Nevzorov
            I am very sorry that the Kiev junta was released from the Ilovaisk and Debaltsev boilers.

            Which was able to come out. There are military men in Ukraine who have a different opinion on the boilers that they created there. And it is more reasonable than that of this warrior.
            1. Boris Nevzorov
              Boris Nevzorov 6 December 2020 18: 21
              +14
              Which was able to come out. There are military men in Ukraine who have a different opinion on the boilers that they created there. And it is more reasonable than that of this warrior.


              The Kiev junta did not come out of the boilers - the militia released the junta, after which the junta hid behind the Minsk agreements. Regrouped and began to continue the civil war in Ukraine.
            2. tihonmarine
              tihonmarine 6 December 2020 19: 30
              +9
              Quote: Mar. Tira
              There are military men in Ukraine who have a different opinion on the boilers that they created there. And it is more reasonable than that of this warrior.

              There are no adequate high-ranking military personnel left in Ukraine. All who were seen in the pro-Russian orientation were dismissed from the Ukrainian army, and so also those who spoke negatively about Bandera. There were only those for whom the slogans "Bandera will come, order in sight" are a guide to action. Name at least one adequate?
          3. bessonov932
            bessonov932 6 December 2020 20: 12
            +2
            The goal of the war is victory! Stop orders are equal to defeat.
          4. stalki
            stalki 6 December 2020 20: 55
            +2
            I am very sorry that the Kiev junta was released from the Ilovaisk and Debaltsev boilers.
            The main junta was in Kiev, but there was ... Well, you yourself understand what was there.
          5. t-34marina
            t-34marina 6 December 2020 21: 40
            +1
            Criminal humanism ...
        2. Finches
          Finches 6 December 2020 16: 56
          +26
          Ukraine is a unique country - there the coronavirus began back in 91, although the virus did not hit the lungs, but the brain ... No antidote has been found yet! Pandemic waves cover Ukraine with enviable constancy, the disease is called in different ways - "Orange", "Dignity" and something else ... Territory of the victorious virus! laughing
          1. 210ox
            210ox 6 December 2020 17: 27
            +18
            What country is this? The territory of meaninglessness.
            1. Finches
              Finches 6 December 2020 17: 32
              +7
              This is the complement I did, let's assume ... laughing
              1. Boris Nevzorov
                Boris Nevzorov 6 December 2020 18: 34
                +16
                Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of Ukraine: At Ilovaisk in 2014, the Ukrainian army surprised Russia and the whole world


                The great boilerman Khomchak will run so that the Polish border guards will be trampled. laughing
                1. major147
                  major147 6 December 2020 18: 50
                  +7
                  Quote: Boris Nevzorov
                  Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of Ukraine: At Ilovaisk in 2014, the Ukrainian army surprised Russia and the whole world

                  Julius Caesar jokingly said that “Defeat is such a special kind of victory.” Are they there, they want to surpass Caesar !?
                  1. Boris Nevzorov
                    Boris Nevzorov 6 December 2020 19: 00
                    +9
                    "Homchakam" to ride and ride to the greatness of Caesar ...)) laughing

                    Not so long ago I read a post of one Kievite. She wrote that she would kiss the tracks of Russian tanks when they entered Kiev.
          2. tihonmarine
            tihonmarine 6 December 2020 19: 36
            +4
            Quote: Finches
            Ukraine with enviable constancy is called the disease in different ways - "Orange", "Dignity" and something like that ... The territory of the victorious virus!

            Then it's better this virus is called Ukrainian - "Orange hydration".
            1. major147
              major147 6 December 2020 23: 10
              +5
              Quote: tihonmarine
              called Ukrainian - "Orange hydration".

              I call it "the country of the enraged would-dla"
              1. tihonmarine
                tihonmarine 7 December 2020 08: 39
                +1
                Quote: major147
                I call it "the country of the enraged would-dla"

                And so it will do.
          3. Uncle Vanya Susanin
            Uncle Vanya Susanin 7 December 2020 06: 38
            0
            No, not in 91, it started a hundred years earlier, read Paustovsky's story "violet ray", it feels like it was written based on modern events hi
        3. venik
          venik 6 December 2020 18: 05
          +9
          Quote: Black
          Looks like a complication after coronavirus in a dude laughing and the weakest link suffered - the brain

          =========
          Lord! What are you talking about? Well, HOW can something that simply DOES NOT suffer ?! As one friend of mine used to say: "To get a concussion, you need least have something that you can "shake" !! drinks
        4. blackcat
          blackcat 6 December 2020 20: 01
          +3
          The brain suffers if it is,
        5. Kent0001
          Kent0001 6 December 2020 21: 17
          +2
          The fact that it is completely absent cannot suffer .... he thinks more of a fool, probably, that's the claim to her))))))
        6. rotfuks
          rotfuks 7 December 2020 01: 25
          +1
          how can something that is not suffer?
        7. putnik51
          putnik51 22 December 2020 17: 23
          0
          But only if he was there.
      2. frruc
        frruc 6 December 2020 17: 02
        +8
        At the same time, Khomchak claims that near Ilovaisk the Ukrainian army amazed with "its fighting spirit."

        R. Homchaku - respect!
        Continue to amaze you, sir general.
        good
        1. Lipchanin
          Lipchanin 6 December 2020 17: 37
          +5
          Quote: frruc
          "With their fighting spirit."

          Dukhan still stands so that you will suffocate without a gas mask
        2. Baloo
          Baloo 6 December 2020 17: 46
          +5
          Quote: frruc
          At the same time, Khomchak claims that near Ilovaisk the Ukrainian army amazed with "its fighting spirit."

          R. Homchaku - respect!
          Continue to amaze you, sir general.
          good

          Psychiatrists believe that not all patients are covered by attention, Khomchak confirms this.
      3. Kapral Alphych
        Kapral Alphych 7 December 2020 15: 26
        0
        And then he woke up ...))
    2. Machito
      Machito 6 December 2020 17: 02
      +10
      Quote: homos
      There was no limit to surprise. The stench from fighting spirit is still on the entire Internet.

      Peas should have been eaten less, then the spirit would not have smelled so much.
      And we saw the fighting spirit of the Ukrainian army when prisoners of Ukrofashiks galloped near Ilovaisk at the gunpoint of the militiamen of Givi and Motorola and shouted: He who does not jump is a Muscovite, sweaty, smelly, with their faces twisted from fear wassat
    3. prapor55
      prapor55 6 December 2020 17: 04
      +4
      This, you about Semenenko's dick?
      1. Borik
        Borik 6 December 2020 17: 21
        +9
        The general is right about one thing, Ukraine was very surprised that year, especially the West. As it is, the strongest army in Europe was defeated at Ilovaisk.
    4. Civil
      Civil 6 December 2020 17: 20
      +1
      A piece of the Russian state is writing its own history .... apparently it's time to accept the fact of the existence of other Russian countries
    5. Senka naughty
      Senka naughty 6 December 2020 17: 26
      +8
      They brought the soldiers into the "cauldron" which surprised Russia and the whole world.
    6. smart ass
      smart ass 6 December 2020 23: 43
      0
      Aha, he only tells fairy tales to children)
    7. Lynx2000
      Lynx2000 7 December 2020 06: 30
      0
      Quote: homos
      There was no limit to surprise. The stench from fighting spirit is still on the entire Internet.

      To be honest, there is such a saying: "Don't touch gMno, it won't stink."
      There are five such statements from ukrovoinov a day. Ignore is the best punishment. stop
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  3. Thompson
    Thompson 6 December 2020 16: 45
    +22
    I think, after a while, we will find out that our army was in the cauldrons and could barely endure its legs.
    Ay yes ukrogabonistan
    1. Pechkin
      Pechkin 6 December 2020 16: 50
      +25
      Well yeah: Haim, I heard you won a million in the lottery! It's true?
      - Not really.
      - What do you mean not really?
      - Well, firstly not a million, but a thousand. Secondly, not to the lottery, but to the cards. And in the third, he did not win, but lost.
    2. Lipchanin
      Lipchanin 6 December 2020 17: 42
      +4
      Quote: Thompson
      I think, after a while, we will find out that our army was in the cauldrons and could barely endure its legs.

      So they had already agreed to the point that Stalin and Hitler conspired to destroy the Orcaine
  4. 72jora72
    72jora72 6 December 2020 16: 48
    +17
    And therefore, no one expected that we would hold out at Ilovaisk.
    Ten years later, they will tell you that it was they who surrounded everyone in Ilovaisk, and defeated everyone ...
    1. Arthur 85
      Arthur 85 6 December 2020 16: 57
      +4
      Ten years later - perhaps in the "Vyshyvanka" cafe - to the same frostbitten cretins as themselves - on Mainhattan - the last territory of the United States, which some countries have already recognized as illegally occupied by the Indians. Since all other territories will be recognized as illegally taken away by the English / French / Mexican territories.
    2. frruc
      frruc 6 December 2020 17: 07
      +5
      Descendants will know how the Ukrainian guard was born. winked
    3. Lipchanin
      Lipchanin 6 December 2020 17: 44
      +2
      Quote: 72jora72
      and they all won ...

      Without America's help. With your strength and spirit
  5. Andrea
    Andrea 6 December 2020 16: 48
    +9
    I don't know about Mir, but in Ilovaisk and seven other smaller boilers there was definitely a "spirit".
    1. Vasyan1971
      Vasyan1971 6 December 2020 17: 05
      +5
      Quote: Andrea
      ... but in Ilovaisk and seven other smaller boilers there was definitely a "spirit".

      "Dukhan", you want to say ... hi
  6. ccsr
    ccsr 6 December 2020 16: 50
    +13
    According to the Colonel General of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, "the Ukrainian army surprised Russia and the whole world."

    It would be better if he felt sorry for the fallen soldiers, and did not try to whitewash himself for that tragedy. And so he crumples for the amusement of Svidomo, it can be seen for a long time the officer's conscience has lost ...
    1. New Year day
      New Year day 6 December 2020 17: 01
      +4
      Quote: ccsr
      long ago I lost my officer's conscience ...

      what conscience? He has never had one.
  7. Alevil
    Alevil 6 December 2020 16: 54
    +15
    No wonder. Ukraine is a country built on lies and myths that are well known to you (the Ukrainian-Russian wars in the 16-18 centuries, the myth of the Holodomor, the myth of ancient Ukraine, the myth of the Muscovites-Finno-Ugric-Turks, the myth of the ancient Ukrainians, the conquerors of Egypt, the myth of Soviet oppression, etc.). So one less or more lies ... It doesn't matter anymore.
  8. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 6 December 2020 16: 56
    +3
    And now the battles for Ilovaisk not finishedbecause not all the dead have been found, not all found were identified.
    Yes. Will he go to fight for the identification of those found and lead others? fool
  9. New Year day
    New Year day 6 December 2020 17: 00
    +2
    of course surprised! And how! So skip, throwing everything recourse
  10. cniza
    cniza 6 December 2020 17: 01
    +6
    And now the battles for Ilovaisk are not over, because not all the dead have been found, not all those found have been identified.


    What can I say, probably, but not finished, you still have to answer for everything, after the liberation of Ukraine from the Nazis ...
    1. seregin-s1
      seregin-s1 6 December 2020 17: 09
      0
      So far Givi, Motorola, Zakharchenko have answered, and these are alive and it seems that no one is going to liquidate them.
      1. cniza
        cniza 6 December 2020 18: 05
        +5
        And for these guys there will be a special demand and the court will ...
  11. evgen1221
    evgen1221 6 December 2020 17: 02
    +5
    Well, by the next (anniversary of the event), the next rector will be rolled out with a statement that in fact the ukrovermacht defeated everyone there and with rich trophies and without losses was ready to go forward, but they gave the order to withdraw. The story in 404 is like that, everyone composes it himself.
  12. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 6 December 2020 17: 03
    +5
    What can I say, there is nothing. Guderian is not finished yet!
  13. Vasyan1971
    Vasyan1971 6 December 2020 17: 03
    +1
    At the same time, Khomchak claims that near Ilovaisk the Ukrainian army amazed with "its fighting spirit."

    Rather, his absence ... What is really there. And after the fight, which was also lost, it is known who waves their fists.
  14. BAI
    BAI 6 December 2020 17: 05
    +7
    Near Ilovaisk in 2014, the Ukrainian army surprised Russia and the whole world

    Yes, it was an enchanting hit in the cauldron. So enchanting no one gets into the boilers now.
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  16. Igor sanych
    Igor sanych 6 December 2020 17: 14
    +1
    yes, this soldier from ukroverrmacht moget into fairy tales ...
  17. KVU-NSVD
    KVU-NSVD 6 December 2020 17: 18
    +4
    It was not a fighting spirit there, but a dukhan. We were knocking around. like rams in a pen - there is nothing to die for, and being taken prisoner is scary. , but the world, yes, the world was surprised at how easily it seems like a regular and considered not weak army gets into the boilers.
    1. dzvero
      dzvero 6 December 2020 19: 29
      +3
      No, they tested the novelty - the environment from the inside. Everyone will be able to surround the enemy from the outside, but not only everyone from the inside, few can ...
  18. svoit
    svoit 6 December 2020 17: 21
    -4
    Quote: Silvestr
    And how! So skip, throwing everything

    Did they give up everything? They still tried to break through, and of course the APU surprised everyone with their fighting spirit.
    1. Solomon Murin
      Solomon Murin 6 December 2020 17: 38
      +4
      what, not all looting TVs and carpets were thrown? Have you taken something out?
  19. Victorio
    Victorio 6 December 2020 17: 33
    +3
    he covers himself and his own. those killed on the conscience of the Turchinovs, Khomchaks and others
  20. Alexey Bobrin
    Alexey Bobrin 6 December 2020 17: 56
    +1
    You were just SUPER then!
  21. Tsoy
    Tsoy 6 December 2020 18: 06
    +2
    According to the Colonel General of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, "the Ukrainian army surprised Russia and the whole world."


    Breaking the speed record for running with dirty pants. wassat

    Everyone has failures, but it's smarter to draw conclusions and move on, rather than try to invent alternative stories ...
  22. Slipper 2
    Slipper 2 6 December 2020 18: 09
    +4
    If a herd of Natsiks is told the truth that they then crap in full, then it will be very unhappy
  23. dgonni
    dgonni 6 December 2020 18: 16
    +3
    Homchak? Yes, he merged the withdrawal of the troops and, having abandoned everything, himself washed away through the luers and did not come out with the troops!
    What? Can he speak?
  24. Viktor Sergeev
    Viktor Sergeev 6 December 2020 18: 17
    +3
    Yes, they were surprised who knew that ukroarmiya was nothing at all.
  25. Cowbra
    Cowbra 6 December 2020 18: 18
    +4
    And, in the same place, it seems like hemp was legalized ... Or are they just going to? But the effect is already there
  26. Vadim Golubkov
    Vadim Golubkov 6 December 2020 18: 19
    +6
    About the Debal'sk boiler, the Maidanites say that they won there and the losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine were 1 to 10. When you ask if so, it turns out that, for example, 1000 to 10000, who then fought and took you into the cauldron, would have reached Vladivostok with that, you could have easily captured Donbass by killing all the militias and Russian soldiers. By writing to ... , wink
  27. Alien From
    Alien From 6 December 2020 18: 24
    +4
    Lard instead of brain, not surprising!
  28. Prisoner
    Prisoner 6 December 2020 18: 35
    +2
    Surprised so surprised. The spirit was and was he extremely disgusting. It stank, in short.
  29. Ros 56
    Ros 56 6 December 2020 18: 39
    +3
    Precisely, they were surprised, especially Semyon with his ruined ass. laughing
  30. kill the fascist
    kill the fascist 6 December 2020 18: 43
    +4
    This is called trying to put a good face on a bad game. The burnt equipment together with the soldiers, the bodies of young boys hanging on the wires - did this surprise the world?
  31. Izotron 3-150
    Izotron 3-150 6 December 2020 18: 47
    +1
    I had to finish them off in the cauldron ..
    To remember ... and not open your mouth
  32. Ru_Na
    Ru_Na 6 December 2020 18: 59
    +3
    Yes, I surprised the whole world and the Russian Federation with the fact that the officers of the Armed Forces of Ukraine massively fumbled in all directions, threw their soldiers into the cauldron, and still stink of their "military exploits" which, in fact, did not exist!
  33. Konnick
    Konnick 6 December 2020 19: 02
    +2
    And why does this one wear camouflage in the office, he is afraid of something. So this is the wrong camouflage, you have to smear yourself with shit under the natural trace of ukrovoinstva.
  34. APASUS
    APASUS 6 December 2020 19: 32
    +1
    They were brainwashed normally, although it's no surprise that Americans will soon be celebrating May 9
  35. 7,62h54
    7,62h54 6 December 2020 20: 29
    -1
    Not that the spirit, rather methane exuded running away
  36. iouris
    iouris 6 December 2020 20: 32
    0
    Reference: In 1988 he graduated from the Moscow Higher Military Command School named after the Supreme Soviet of the RSFSR. From 1988 to 1992 he served in the GSVG and in the Belarusian Military District.
    1. Salty
      Salty 6 December 2020 20: 39
      -3
      Quote: iouris
      In 1988 he graduated from the Moscow Higher Military Command School named after the Supreme Soviet of the RSFSR

      Parade parquet, yeah .. I had acquaintances from MVOKU. Wish - yes, that they were not at all)))
  37. bessonov932
    bessonov932 6 December 2020 21: 07
    +1
    Manstein, who is Erich von, read his memoirs - he defeated everyone! It's just that everyone has misunderstood!
  38. tovarich-andrey.62goncharov
    tovarich-andrey.62goncharov 6 December 2020 21: 16
    0
    ... and feed them later ...
  39. maxim k.
    maxim k. 6 December 2020 21: 24
    -1
    It was Russia that "surprised" the whole world by not letting the "non-brothers" be finished off.
  40. mag nit
    mag nit 6 December 2020 21: 54
    +2
    Singed stubble stank all over the world.
  41. svoit
    svoit 6 December 2020 21: 59
    -1
    Quote: KVU-NSVD
    , the world was surprised at how easy it seemed to be a regular

    There were mostly punitive battalions, they themselves got there and they had the motivation, and only one deserted, not fired upon.
  42. Incvizitor
    Incvizitor 6 December 2020 22: 15
    +2
    Yes, I was personally surprised, almost all the aviation was drained, to get into five boilers, to lose so much that as many as five graves were and this is essentially against the partisans.
  43. Hottabych
    Hottabych 6 December 2020 22: 28
    +2
    So it came ... he says that he was offered to save the lives of the guys from the Armed Forces of Ukraine (conscripts and forcibly drafted to war with their people) in exchange for the Natsiks from the battalions, who massacred half of the residents of Ilovaisk. But he refused and is proud of it ... Ugh!
  44. Vlad Pervovich
    Vlad Pervovich 6 December 2020 22: 35
    +1
    yeah ... remember ... wassat
  45. av58
    av58 6 December 2020 23: 07
    +2
    The Ukrainian army surprised me with how it ran from the Novorossiysk miners, teachers and mechanics to Russian territory, and made me laugh.
  46. wow
    wow 6 December 2020 23: 12
    +1
    Bullshit ! You can't name it otherwise.
  47. aszzz888
    aszzz888 7 December 2020 02: 53
    0
    Khomchak said that the Ukrainian volunteers "became a real nightmare for the Russians."
    No words, only emotions! laughing
  48. Vdi73
    Vdi73 7 December 2020 04: 20
    +1
    It is gratifying that the leaders of the Bandera people have such a mind and opinion about themselves. When lions, and they are far from lions, are commanded by a ram, they are doomed.
  49. Fedorovich
    Fedorovich 7 December 2020 05: 02
    +1
    Nowadays, not that is being treated ...
  50. Bshkaus
    Bshkaus 7 December 2020 07: 12
    0
    In general, "YES" Ilovaisk, though surrendered with heavy losses, but then the whole world was expecting a complete collapse of the front and the release of the LDNR / RF into the operational space in the Kharyuovsk, Dnipropetrovsk and Zaporizhzhya regions. Yes, what the hell is not kidding, I met 2015 in Kiev, he was realistically under siege and was preparing for street battles. In each house bomb shelters were reactivated, equipment was hidden. But ... some people drowned in Debaltsevo. The city was taken, of course, but they were drained of blood and lost all potential for further offensive actions, leaving for a deep defense. Maryinka 2015 only finally confirmed this, and a dead end situation has developed in Donbas, from which there is no and will never be a military exit, and both sides
    1. Hikker
      Hikker 25 December 2020 10: 27
      0
      Yes, and no one was going to go anywhere, in the same place they love to negotiate and not beat the enemy, even if you use mythical troops, then talking about some kind of exhaustion is ridiculous