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In the United States published data on non-combat losses of military aircraft for 2013-2020

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In the United States published data on non-combat losses of military aircraft for 2013-2020

National Military Security Commission aviation The United States (National Commission on Military Aviation Safety) summed up the non-combat losses of American military aviation in the period from 2013 to December 1, 2020. During this period, 186 aircraft and 224 pilots were lost, the report says.


According to the commission's calculations, in the period from 2013 to 2018, in 6 thousand non-combat-related aviation accidents, the US military aviation lost 157 aircraft of various types, as well as 198 pilots. The total cost of lost aircraft during this time amounted to $ 9,4 billion. For the period 2019-2020, the non-combat losses of US military aviation amounted to another 29 aircraft and 26 dead pilots. The damage amounted to $ 2,25 billion.

Thus, from 2013 to December 1, 2020, non-combat losses of American military aviation amounted to 186 aircraft and 224 pilots, and the total cost of lost aircraft was $ 11,6 billion.

The document emphasizes that despite the high costs of training flight personnel, the non-combat losses of US military aircraft are too large.

The cost of training fighter and bomber pilots is given as an example. In particular, the basic training of a qualified pilot for the F-16 is estimated at $ 5,6 million, and the F-22 at $ 10,9 million. The training of B-1 bomber pilots is estimated at $ 7,3 million, and the B-52 at $ 9,7 million. The training of pilots of military transport aviation is cheaper. According to the commission, the cost per pilot of the C-17 is 1,1 million dollars, the C-130J - 2,5 million. Training of pilots of reconnaissance aircraft and AWACS costs an average of 5,5 million dollars.
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  1. Victor_B
    Victor_B 5 December 2020 09: 18
    +4
    Yes, the Americans are not fighting casualties!
    During the Korean War, the Americans had an excellent pilot rescue service, so judging by the official reports on aircraft losses and the number of SAVED pilots (no fatalities), simply dividing the last number by the first - they did not have aircraft with a crew of less than 4- x people!
    These data have not been refuted until now.
    1. Blackmokona
      Blackmokona 5 December 2020 09: 24
      +4
      There were just a bunch of bombers with a crew of more than 10 people moving the middle to the top.
      1. Victor_B
        Victor_B 5 December 2020 09: 25
        +2
        Quote: BlackMokona
        There were just a bunch of bombers with a crew of more than 10 people moving the middle to the top.

        Of which a dozen were knocked down - another, and the rest (theoretically, of course) single.
        You will probably also find doubles?
        1. Blackmokona
          Blackmokona 5 December 2020 09: 27
          +3
          For example, according to the US, 19 B-29s were officially shot down.
          1. Victor_B
            Victor_B 5 December 2020 09: 30
            +2
            Quote: BlackMokona
            For example, according to the US, 19 B-29s were officially shot down.

            With crews
            Three pressurized cabins for the crew: the front one - for seven people: the commander, the co-pilot, the navigator-bombardier, the flight engineer, the senior navigator, the navigator-operator, the flight mechanic, the middle (tail) one - for three shooters and the stern one - for one autonomous gunner.
            Everything is not one!
            Moreover, not all of them were saved.
            1. Blackmokona
              Blackmokona 5 December 2020 09: 31
              -3
              Well, 11 people, more than 10.
              1. Victor_B
                Victor_B 5 December 2020 09: 32
                +3
                Well, leave four on board at least!
                To shoot down.
                Don't put everyone in the Sabers.
                Do not offend the four-seater Sabers!
                1. Blackmokona
                  Blackmokona 5 December 2020 09: 34
                  +4
                  And by the way, I found your source about the rescued pilots, and I realized that the decision is even more obvious than any transports, drills and so on.
                  It does not indicate whose flight crews were rescued.
                  Thus, there must be added all the losses of the allies and prisoners of war flight crews who fell over the sea.
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                  2. Kostya Lavinyukov
                    Kostya Lavinyukov 5 December 2020 11: 46
                    0
                    Can I link to this source?
        2. venik
          venik 5 December 2020 09: 53
          0
          Quote: Victor_B
          Of which a dozen were knocked down - another, and the rest (theoretically, of course) single.

          =========
          Yes, B-29 was there not so much... Could the paratroopers / passengers get into the number of those rescued?
          Unfortunately, I have not seen these materials! I would really appreciate the link! hi
  2. Observer2014
    Observer2014 5 December 2020 09: 19
    +2
    In the United States published data on non-combat losses of military aircraft for 2013-2020
    Those who do not fly do not fall.
    1. Cowbra
      Cowbra 5 December 2020 09: 55
      +1
      Well, another plus is that the US fleet is not a fountain now. The readiness should be 80%, but in fact the numbers should be 40%, 45% ... B-1B shook everyone in general. consider them written off already. The F-35 has not yet been adopted into service at all ... Even flying desks - and those ancient, like the shit of a mammoth, so they slammed only last year, pieces 7. B-52 - engines are put on them from a landfill, recently won the B-80 decommissioned back in the 52s was reanimated from the landfill. The stump is clear, if you don't repair, the jambs will climb out. Yesterday another engine fireworks arranged
    2. figwam
      figwam 5 December 2020 09: 58
      +5
      On average, they lose more than our aviation regiment per year. Not bad, let them continue.
      1. dauria
        dauria 5 December 2020 14: 16
        0
        On average, they lose more than our aviation regiment per year.


        And they also have a mortality rate of 100%. laughing Imagine, oh horror !!! Everyone who is born eventually dies.
        Where was the incident (prerequisite) raid? Where is the layout of aircraft types?
        Otherwise, you can "honestly" write that half of our production Su-57 crashed.
  3. Fungus
    Fungus 5 December 2020 09: 37
    -4
    Big losses. Low professionalism of pilots and frequent failure of equipment. Not everything is so great with the Americans.
    1. mr.ZinGer
      mr.ZinGer 5 December 2020 10: 41
      +10
      Or maybe the reason is the high intensity of flights?
    2. bobba94
      bobba94 5 December 2020 17: 58
      0
      Give me any source where you can find out about the non-combat losses of military aviation of the Russian Federation for the period from 2013 to December 1, 2020, so that I can compare and draw conclusions. If you name it, honor and praise you. If you can't name - don't write nonsense ...
  4. Maxamud
    Maxamud 5 December 2020 09: 50
    0
    During this period, 186 aircraft and 224 pilots were lost, the report says.

    Quite good statistics, keep it up "partners" .. bully
    1. Krasnoyarsk
      Krasnoyarsk 5 December 2020 10: 06
      +4
      Quote: Maxamud
      During this period, 186 aircraft and 224 pilots were lost, the report says.

      For some reason, I'm not sad at all.
      1. Maxamud
        Maxamud 5 December 2020 10: 09
        +5
        Quote: Krasnoyarsk
        For some reason, I'm not sad at all.

        And to many in Russia too, but it's better not to write about it too much here .. wink
  5. Sergey Valov
    Sergey Valov 5 December 2020 10: 00
    +8
    The information given in the article is about nothing. It is not said what total flight time, what aircraft fleet. And for a complete picture, you need a raid on each type of aircraft, the fleet of each type of aircraft, the age of the lost aircraft. It is not said how many cars were decommissioned after accidents. There is no statistics on the reasons for the loss of equipment. Moreover, all this must be painted over the years. And this is only at first glance.
    1. Boris Chernikov
      Boris Chernikov 5 December 2020 10: 14
      +1
      well, by the type of sides, every year they have 3-5 f-16s beat due to engine failure .. this is what I remember exactly
    2. mr.ZinGer
      mr.ZinGer 5 December 2020 10: 37
      +7
      You are right, we need statistics on the ratio of sorties to lost aircraft.
      And for comparison, project this ratio on our aviation.
      Then I really think it will be sad.
      1. bobba94
        bobba94 5 December 2020 18: 14
        +1
        The only comment by mr.ZinGer, which contains the essence, namely, there is no information on non-combat losses of Russian aircraft for about the same period. There is nothing to compare with ..... I am reading a thoughtful argument that there is no full layout by type of aircraft, bad statistics and so on .... I wonder what good statistics and a full layout of the American National Commission will give me if I do not have similar information on Russian military aviation, I have nothing to compare, analyze and draw conclusions with ...
  6. A. Privalov
    A. Privalov 5 December 2020 10: 08
    +4
    In this regard, Nauru has the best performance in the world. They have no army or air force.
    By the way, there is not a single case of COVID-19 in Turkmenistan. hi
    1. askort154
      askort154 5 December 2020 11: 36
      +2
      A. Privalov...By the way, there is not a single case of COVID-19 in Turkmenistan.

      So there the president is a dentist - Gurbantuly Myalikgulyevich Berdimuhamedov!
      Which coronavirus dares to meddle there fool ?! wink hi
      1. A. Privalov
        A. Privalov 5 December 2020 11: 45
        +1
        Quote: askort154
        A. Privalov...By the way, there is not a single case of COVID-19 in Turkmenistan.

        So there the president is a dentist - Gurbantuly Myalikgulyevich Berdimuhamedov!
        Which coronavirus dares to meddle there fool ?! hi

        There is also the Minister of Health - a cardiac surgeon Amannepesov Nurmukhammet Kakabaevich. So, I am calm for the health of the Turkmen. hi
        1. askort154
          askort154 5 December 2020 12: 08
          0
          A. Privalov ...There is also the Minister of Health, a cardiac surgeon Amannepesov Nurmukhammet Kakabaevich.

          There is no need to doubt it. Moreover, at the front line they have nurses:
          Fatima, Zulfiya, Zukhra, Leila, Jamilya, and most importantly,
          herself - Gulchatay! good hi
          1. A. Privalov
            A. Privalov 5 December 2020 12: 36
            -1
            Quote: askort154
            A. Privalov ...There is also the Minister of Health, a cardiac surgeon Amannepesov Nurmukhammet Kakabaevich.

            There is no need to doubt it. Moreover, at the front line they have nurses:
            Fatima, Zulfiya, Zukhra, Leila, Jamilya, and most importantly,
            herself - Gulchatay! good hi

            And where do Zarina, Guzel, Saida and Hafiz work?
            1. askort154
              askort154 5 December 2020 12: 48
              -1
              A. Privalov ...And where do Zarina, Guzel, Saida and Hafiz work?

              Sukhov took them with him. They perform the duties of Sukhov's wives, under the supervision of "beloved Katerina Matveyevna", his beloved wife. crying
              1. A. Privalov
                A. Privalov 5 December 2020 12: 53
                -1
                Quote: askort154
                A. Privalov ...And where do Zarina, Guzel, Saida and Hafiz work?

                Sukhov took them with him. They perform the duties of Sukhov's wives, under the supervision of "beloved Katerina Matveyevna", his beloved wife. crying

                Well, so be it.
  7. Tsoy
    Tsoy 5 December 2020 10: 13
    +3
    Boeing 737 is the most dangerous aircraft in the world. Statistics is a tricky thing. Excluding the small print, there is little data to display. The person above is absolutely right. For no plaque or reason, it's just a sketch.
    1. Pete mitchell
      Pete mitchell 5 December 2020 11: 33
      +1
      Quote: Choi
      Boeing 737 is the most dangerous aircraft in the world.

      Not a topic of course, but the 737MAX was allowed to fly, so we'll see again soon.
      1. Tsoy
        Tsoy 5 December 2020 12: 03
        +2
        Not a topic of course, but the 737MAX was allowed to fly, so we'll see again soon.


        No, I didn't mean it. There was a simple article that 737 has the largest number of disasters in history. Only there they did not take into account that the 737 is the most massive liner in the world and has been produced since the 60s. Plus different generations, plaque per incident, the total number of aircraft, etc. Dry numbers without explanation are misleading.
        1. Pete mitchell
          Pete mitchell 5 December 2020 14: 09
          +1
          Quote: Choi
          raid per incident unit, total number of aircraft, etc. Dry numbers without explanation are misleading.

          I applaud - in two lines the sentence to the article
  8. KVU-NSVD
    KVU-NSVD 5 December 2020 10: 14
    +3
    The park is huge, they fly intensively, Problems with technical readiness are serious (according to their own confessions). Hence the numbers, I would not be surprised if slick as possible.
  9. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 5 December 2020 10: 19
    0
    186 aircraft and 224 pilots were lost
    The figures are certainly impressive, but for some reason (?) They do not cause regret.
    1. Mountain shooter
      Mountain shooter 5 December 2020 11: 00
      +2
      Quote: rotmistr60
      The numbers are certainly impressive, but for some reason (?) They do not cause regret

      That's for sure. No regrets. Taking into account the cost of training pilots - about a billion more losses.
      One thing is a pity - their printing press has not jammed yet, they print as if they were running ... They press a couple of keys, and ... they will compensate.
      1. Maxamud
        Maxamud 5 December 2020 11: 30
        0
        Quote: Mountain Shooter
        That's for sure. No regrets. Taking into account the cost of training pilots - about a billion more losses.

        This is what Evgeny especially likes, they do not spare money for pilots and such losses .. wink
        Quote: Mountain Shooter
        One thing is a pity - their printing press has not jammed yet, they print as if they were running ... They press a couple of keys, and ... they will compensate.

        On the pieces of iron, yes, but the pilots can no longer be restored .. See in the world have already learned how to resist the robber raids of vultures .. Here it pleases!
        Serbs have opened an account!
  10. Constanty
    Constanty 5 December 2020 10: 54
    +1
    Does anyone have any data on how the non-combat losses of aircraft of China, India and Russia are visible over the same period?

    Only comparison will give a correct indication of whether American casualties are unique or just commonplace.
    1. Dmitry Makarov
      Dmitry Makarov 5 December 2020 11: 13
      -2
      There is no secret in this, non-combat losses:
      USA - here it is necessary to understand in more detail. All the years after the collapse of the USSR, the American military was posing as a hegemon and was present all over the world, remember how before the Americans boasted of their pilots' raid? Well, all this leads to increased wear and tear of the Glider, and the exhaustion of the motor resource - on average, for the US aviation, this figure is more than 80%.
      So American aces are pouring from heaven, on their junk.
      But Mother Russia, for all 20 years, kept its Air Force at airfields, saved on fuel, and stole.
      But suddenly they decided to reform the Armed Forces - they modernized all aviation, carried out major repairs, installed new engines and weapons. Well, plus the receipt of hundreds of completely new units in the troops.
      For example, the bulk of the Tu-95 or MiG-31 was produced in the late 80s and early 90s, but the Americans have this figure much more deplorable, there are a lot of equipment from the 70s, and even the end of the 60s.
      1. Mountain shooter
        Mountain shooter 5 December 2020 12: 12
        +2
        Here I found data for 12 years in Russia.
        http://www.airwar.ru/history/locwar/xussr/poteri/poteri.html
        Also, as it were, not zero. But not comparable in quantity.
        1. Dmitry Makarov
          Dmitry Makarov 5 December 2020 12: 24
          +1
          Of course, Russia has several times less, but they were and are, the beginning of intensive flights after a long downtime affects.
          Well, there was a mistake in training on computer simulators, it was identified and eliminated.
        2. Constanty
          Constanty 5 December 2020 13: 55
          0
          I'll start with the aviation of my country - Poland.
          If you calculate correctly, since 2013, the Polish military aviation has lost 4 MiG-29 aircraft and 5 helicopters (1 Mi-17, 2 PW-4, 1 Mi-2 and 1 W3 Głuszec) for non-combat reasons - one MiG 29 pilot died. due to poor repair of the catapult seat in Poland.
          Despite the small number, due to the small state of the Polish aviation, these were heavy losses.
  11. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 5 December 2020 11: 03
    0
    Yes, there cannot be such an exceptional. What a cookie the liberals have, they drove so many lards into the ground. In general, the more they began to fly, they see enemies everywhere, they would sit like Turkmen on the ground would not fight at all. exceed the accident rate of the Indian Air Force. good drinks
    1. Maxamud
      Maxamud 5 December 2020 11: 33
      +2
      Quote: tralflot1832
      The mench has a ball. The USAF emergency rate must exceed the Indian Air Force crash rate.

      Well, for your dream (and not only yours))) friend Andrey S. drinks soldier
      1. tralflot1832
        tralflot1832 5 December 2020 11: 49
        +2
        From the shift I will definitely come to your health-like-minded person! Judging by the minuses under my dream, Pakistanis and Chinese are present on the site, only they benefit from the first place in the emergency of the Indian Air Force. drinks
        1. Maxamud
          Maxamud 5 December 2020 13: 40
          +2
          Quote: tralflot1832
          From the shift I will definitely give you a like-minded person for your health!

          Hold on, brother! hi We all work, and some make money here
          Quote: tralflot1832
          Judging by the minuses under my dream, Pakistanis and Chinese are present on the site, only they benefit from the first place in the emergency of the Indian Air Force.

          We'll talk about this later. Andrey, you finish your shift as expected .. hi
  12. Ros 56
    Ros 56 5 December 2020 12: 00
    0
    Let them fight, we have something to worry about. the weaker they are, the better we are in case of a clash.
    1. Maxamud
      Maxamud 5 December 2020 13: 44
      0
      Quote: Ros 56
      Let them fight, we have something to worry about. the weaker they are, the better we are in case of a clash.

      Brevity is the soul of wit ..! I think so too .. bully
  13. zwlad
    zwlad 5 December 2020 16: 37
    +2
    The heat of aircraft must be viewed in conjunction with the number of sorties, and not as a spherical horse in a vacuum.