Roscosmos announced the prevention of seven possible accidents of Soyuz-2 missiles

Roskosmos specialists found seven more faulty valves in the blocks of the first stages of the Soyuz-2 launch vehicles, thereby preventing possible emergencies. Reported by RIA News with reference to a source in the rocket and space industry.

According to the source of the news agency, the decision to check the first stages of the Soyuz-2 missiles was made after a faulty valve was found in the Soyuz-ST rocket at the Kuru cosmodrome. After the replacement of the faulty part, all the first-stage units in storage and preparing for launch were tested, including the Soyuz-2 rocket launched the day before from the Plesetsk cosmodrome with three Gonets satellites.

Seven more defective parts were found by specialists. Reportedly, the products of one of the batches of valves for engines of the first stages of rocket turned out to be of poor quality. To date, all defective parts have been replaced.

The result of the check was not only the establishment of the batch number, shift and the foreman who allowed the marriage of parts produced in 2016 at the Samara enterprise "UEC-Kuznetsov", but also the prevention of possible emergencies due to these valves.

As the interlocutor of the agency added, in the event of an emergency in space, it would be almost impossible to establish the true cause of the accident.

Comments

[Malyuta]

This is not directly roskosmos, but some kind of emergency space.
And where was the quality control department of the enterprises that produced the marriage and this is for Roskosmos,
and what then is produced for civil needs?

[Roman070280]

and what then is produced for civil needs?

[Malyuta]

Quote: Roman070280

and what then is produced for civil needs?

[Overlock]

Quote: Roman070280

and what then is produced for civil needs?

The chief of the General Staff does not believe his eyes. Putin looks more philosophically at the severed pen.

[New Year day]

Quote: Overlock

the chief of the General Staff does not believe his eyes

Gerasimov. in my opinion, he just went nuts from what he saw.

[poquello]

Quote: Malyuta

And where was the quality control department of the enterprises that produced the marriage and this is for Roskosmos,

but now they will ask where they were, otherwise "trampolines, trampolines"

[Alex777]

but now they will ask where they were, otherwise "trampolines, trampolines"

If one master has been identified, then this is not a master, but a saboteur.
I have released so many defects in series. Accidentally? Not like that.

[Saint George]

Especially for fans of American trampolines, I would like to remind you that the valves were produced in 2016 at PJSC UEC-Kuznetsov, which belongs to Rostec, and not to Roskosmos. And that Rogozin has been the head of Roscosmos since 2018.

[poquello]

Quote: Zveruga

Especially for fans of American trampolines, I would like to remind you that the valves were produced in 2016 at PJSC UEC-Kuznetsov, which belongs to Rostec, and not to Roskosmos. And that Rogozin has been the head of Roscosmos since 2018.

it is unimportant), the main thing in the USSR was Korolev (sometimes they don't even know how many people were next to Korolev) and then Rogozin, and in general "la masketosi la masketosi"
))))))))))))))))))))

[DominickS]

Oh, if you only knew how this OTK sometimes works. Maybe not everywhere, but I judge from personal experience. The master himself may not even be to blame. Could put before a fact - accept, or you will be left without money.

[Vadim237]

It's just a matter of giving zvizdona for such a thing - and those who make them accept defective parts for strategic systems simply to the FSB officers.

[smart ass]

Urgently Rogozin Prize !!! Prevented 7 accidents!

[Pessimist22]

Some saboteurs are working in Rrskosmos.

[YOUR]

But they are successfully neutralized ..... sometimes.

[hagen]

Quote: Pessimist22

Some saboteurs are working in Rrskosmos.

Roscosmos specialists found and eliminated the defects made by the contractors. Do you think this is sabotage?

[Starover_Z]

Quote: Hagen

Quote: Pessimist22

Some saboteurs are working in Rrskosmos.

Roscosmos specialists found and eliminated the defects made by the contractors. Do you think this is sabotage?

This, of course, is no longer a sabotage, but where were the specialists BEFORE the emergency situation ?!
Or as we always have "Until the thunder breaks out ..." ?!

[hagen]

Quote: Starover_Z

Or as we always have "Until the thunder breaks out ..." ?!

Fortunately, the thunder did not break out.

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

Quote: Hagen

Roscosmos specialists found and eliminated the defects made by the contractors. Do you think this is sabotage?

The result of the check was not only the establishment of the batch number, shift and the master, who allowed the marriage of parts produced in 2016 at the Samara enterprise "UEC-Kuznetsov",

This is a multilevel time ***.
Master by master, but not a word about quality control department or incoming control.

[hagen]

Quote: DymOk_v_dYmke

Master by master, but not a word about quality control department or incoming control.

Everything that you mentioned is in the verification materials. I think there are a lot of documents, including those that will not be published in the general press. So do not worry, they will find everyone there, and the quality control department, and the entrance control, a lot of other interesting things.

[bolt]

Quote: Pessimist22

Some saboteurs are working in Rrskosmos.

The Samara enterprise "ODK-Kuznetsov" has nothing to do with "Roscosmos". It is part of Rostec, where S. Chemezov rules.

[Hunter 2]

Sabotage??? Or disregard for work? Need to figure it out ...

[Malyuta]

Quote: Hunter 2

Sabotage??? Or disregard for work? Need to figure it out ...

I am very sorry, but do you know what salaries are ordinary workers in Roscosmos?

[Hunter 2]

Quote: Malyuta

I am very sorry, but do you know what salaries are ordinary workers in Roscosmos?

Definitely not starving! And what does the salary have to do with it? If this is a "simple hard worker" cant - in the Tyuyazhka, he is Ours - Yours ... He ditched billions, The skin was recruited.

[Malyuta]

Quote: Hunter 2

Definitely not starving! And what does the salary have to do with it? If this is a "simple hard worker" cant - in the Tyuyazhka, he is Ours - Yours ... He ditched billions, The skin was recruited.

I know who ruined Our-Your billions, this is Potanin, Rotenberg, Michelson, Deripaska, but I don’t believe that the conditional Uncle Vasya with a salary of 20-30 tr.
Are you generally familiar with military production and the control system there?

[svp67]

Quote: Malyuta

Are you generally familiar with military production and the control system there?

Do you know what is left of THAT control now?

[Malyuta]

Quote: svp67

Do you know what is left of THAT control now?

As far as I know, the system of military representatives was restored, although with a general collapse, I would not be surprised that the space industry is the same mess as elsewhere.

[svp67]

Quote: Malyuta

As far as I know, the system of military representatives was restored,

Partially ... Not enough money for everything

[Malyuta]

Quote: svp67

Partially ... Not enough money for everything

Where does this damn money go? They export more hydrocarbons than in the Soviet Union, gold, diamonds, rare earths, etc., etc., but still there is no money.

[svp67]

Quote: Malyuta

Where does this damn money go?

And this is a SECRET, "a great state secret." Why the yachts of our "neoligarchs" are larger than the warships that Russia can now "afford" to build and their number will be enough for a small fleet, a mystery, however

[Overlock]

Quote: svp67

Why the yachts of our "neoligarchs" are larger than the warships that Russia can now "afford" to build and their number will be enough for a small fleet, is a mystery

what oligarchs are there! The yacht of Madame Krivonogikh, when Sochak was a cleaner. And under state protection!

[svp67]

Quote: Overlock

And under state protection!

And "valuable personnel" must be protected, the Russian cleaning lady is now in the price, otherwise everything around is from Central Asia

[Sling cutter]

Quote: svp67

Why the yachts of our "neoligarchs" are larger than the warships that Russia can now "afford" to build and their number will be enough for a small fleet, is a mystery

Colleague, not in number, but in tonnage, and superior in cost.
Yesterday I watched their gangway in the south of France, these are real frigates and Usmanovskaya and Swatch and Deripaska, sorry for a couple of torpedo boats on them !!!

[for]

Quote: Malyuta

Where does this damn money go?

By order of Putin, the LRCs (regional management center) are being created. And how many more such parasites there are and how many will be. The deputies for the elections of the gelding, the governors of the ICM for the presidential elections.

[Sling cutter]

Quote: Malyuta

Where does this damn money go? They export more hydrocarbons than in the Soviet Union, gold, diamonds, rare earths, etc., etc., but still there is no money.

Comrade! They stole our money and sent off to offshore a sweet foreign life, and they need this cosmonautics, like last year's snow, so the scrapers can raise their fighting spirit.

[New Year day]

Quote: Malyuta

Where does this damn money go?

flow to themselves and flow ... slowly ... to Bern

[Hunter 2]

Sign ... when from a batch of 20 SVD - sent back to the factory 16.
Crooked and Spiteful Offenders - There have always been. So you need to beat on the hands.

[Malyuta]

Quote: Hunter 2

Sign ... when from a batch of 20 SVD - sent back to the factory 16.
Crooked and Spiteful Offenders - There have always been. So you need to beat on the hands.

SVD ??? Actually, they should have been at the exile factory. shoot. Well, if the SVD, which have been on the conveyor for more than fifty years, have gone "overlays", then it's a pipe, but this is understandable, there is no one to work. Young people do not want to go to the factory for these pennies, skilled workers on their fingers. after all, the vocational education system has been destroyed.
Sadness.

[Sling cutter]

Quote: Hunter 2

when from a batch of 20 SVD - sent back to factory 16.

Well this is what they could do with SVDehoy, it doesn't break.

[hagen]

Quote: Malyuta

Who ditched Our-Your billions, I know it's Potanin, Rotenberg, Michelson, Deripaska

That's about Michelson, for more details, can you? What did he do wrong in life? Didn't let you become the chairman of the board of Novatek?

[Dart2027]

Quote: Malyuta

but that the conditional uncle Vasya with a salary of 20-30 tr. I do not believe in this

In fact, he makes all the defective parts.

[Bad_gr]

Quote: Malyuta

but so that the conditional uncle Vasya ...

Quote: Dart2027

In fact, it is he who makes all the defective parts.

Not necessarily Uncle Vasya. Now, probably, it could be Uncle Farukh (Uncle Rustam, Uncle Said, etc.)

[Dart2027]

Quote: Bad_gr

Now, probably, it could be Uncle Farukh (Uncle Rustam, Uncle Said

Well, I don’t know that, but in any case it’s a specific worker, not this government.

[Bad_gr]

Quote: Dart2027

but anyway a specific worker

I meant that the work was done not by a skilled worker (Uncle Vasya), but by a guest worker.

[Dart2027]

Quote: Bad_gr

not a skilled worker (uncle Vasya), but a migrant worker

Unlikely, although possible.

[Starover_Z]

Quote: Hunter 2

Quote: Malyuta

I am very sorry, but do you know what salaries are ordinary workers in Roscosmos?

Definitely not starving! And what does the salary have to do with it? If this is a "simple hard worker" cant - in the Tyuyazhka, he is Ours - Yours ... He ditched billions, The skin was recruited.

Well, if so ... Take Gazprom. How many contracts are there about ... are there menachyers with lawyers and what amounts were lost as a result and paid for foreign fines ?!

[mark2]

what sums were lost as a result and paid for foreign fines ?!

Those. if the contracts were not concluded, then all the rules? Or would there be a tapa pritenzii, scolly not concluded?
At least two parties agree. If one party is ready to provide goods / services under an agreement, and the other has decided to refuse, then what have the managers to do with effective. You might think that you did not abandon the previously concluded agreements, albeit verbal.

[NDR-791]

Sabotage??? Or disregard for work?
Rather, a disregard for control. We had such a case: A small batch of aircraft engine bearing housings is undergoing operations 1. turning + control, 2. locksmith + control, 3. heat treatment (copper plating + control, carburizing + control), 4. CNC milling + control, 5. locksmith + control , 6. oil spillage + control, 7. locksmith + control. Then the batch goes to the assembly ... and returns from there with a complaint. Quality Control Department tried to write off the marriage on a milling cutter who recently came to the shop to work. However, he turned out not to be a schoolboy yesterday, but with a diploma in mechanical engineering. And for THREE !!! having delved into the problem for a minute, he proved that it had nothing to do with it. Moreover, he explained to the controllers that the marriage started from the very first operation - turning. A hard worker, either from a fool, or from Budun, he squeezed the workpiece in a three-jaw chuck. There was no control !!! And the triangular "rings" went on quietly in production. Guess three times - someone was punished ??? And everyone got paid.

[Van 16]

Usually, all these operations take place in different departments, mechanical, thermal, etc. And with every detail there is a huge accompanying, who, when, what did, who took. Moreover, in the shops there is also an incoming control, he took a defective part into work - the responsibility is under control. So - yes, most likely the controllers burst. Another thing is that their salaries are even lower than those of the workers, while those of them are also extremely small.

[NDR-791]

The workshop is one, but large. But the sites are different. And yet, yes - the thermal has its own control. And all that concerns mechanical processing under one quality control department. There was this case in 2004. Indian repair order. And, by the way, I never saw the military representative then, I'm not sure that he was at the factory at all.

[K-36]

Uv. Artyom (NDR-791 ). I here 4 days ago in one of the discussed topics asked a question. I quote verbatim:
"But I've been wondering for a long time: is it too much for the 3-D technologies to produce bearings that are promoted in "Made with us"? After all, what is easier, it would seem. Ideal (in size and chemical composition) balls / needles, outer and inner shell. Take it and assemble it into a finished bearing ... Or is it too tough for a 3-D bearing?"
What from one reader with a nickname U-58 I got this one, if I may say so, answer (literally):
“Do we have money to test such bearings?
It is necessary to drive about 10 aircraft engines on the stand to exhaustion in order to confirm their reliability.
How many rocket engines need to be burned to prove reliability? Good or bad, but the Soviet government and the power of the CPSU found funds for this. Who will find them now? "
After such an answer, it became clear to me (I hope that not only to me) that it makes no sense to discuss with this comrade. For his concepts of production and quality control are in his own universe ... Eh EGE-EGE! And this is just the beginning ... What will happen next? (voice crying in the wilderness)
With respect,

[NDR-791]

I confess, sinful, outdated To my shame, I'm not really familiar with 3D printing. But about this:
“Do we have money to test such bearings?
It is necessary to drive about 10 aircraft engines on the stand to exhaustion in order to confirm their reliability.
How many rocket engines need to be burned to prove reliability?
it's just a diagnosis !!! And yes, the exam is hopeless.

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: Hunter 2

Sabotage??? Or disregard for work? Need to figure it out ...

And what is there to understand? At one time, the performer himself tested the product, then presented the product to his superiors (master), then together with him they presented the product to the Quality Control Department, then together with the military representative. The assembly plant also has (had) incoming quality control. Most likely all these services have been abolished (OPTIMIZED in modern language). The result is obvious.

[igor67]

Quote: Krasnoyarsk

Quote: Hunter 2

Sabotage??? Or disregard for work? Need to figure it out ...

And what is there to understand? At one time, the performer himself tested the product, then presented the product to his superiors (master), then together with him they presented the product to the Quality Control Department, then together with the military representative. The assembly plant also has (had) incoming quality control. Most likely all these services have been abolished (OPTIMIZED in modern language). The result is obvious.

not much is wrong, I assembled the nodes and - column - the NK12 engine, on tu95, I received bearings for assembly, they were first measured and checked in the laboratory, like gear wheels, then the controller checked and everything was written in the checklist, then after assemblies, for example, I ran the product at the stand in the presence of the controller, again the signature, then the control master, then the production master, the chiefs and above were officers

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: igor67

..., I received bearings for assembly, they were first measured and checked in a laboratory,

That is what we called it - entrance control. What I wrote about.

[igor67]

Quote: Krasnoyarsk

Quote: igor67

..., I received bearings for assembly, they were first measured and checked in a laboratory,

That is what we called it - entrance control. What I wrote about.

many here write about the military acceptance, but this is not a panacea, I remember for the plan our chief with the rank of major demanded to sign an acceptance statement for the engine that was not yet ready, so the controller and supervisor sent him gently and did not sign anything. the quality must depend on the person himself. and not from his salary, does not suit the salary, look for another job.

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: igor67

first, the quality should depend on the person himself. and not from his salary

Who would argue, but I will not. Everything is correct. But, the worker does not always allow marriage because of his indifference. In most cases, due to the conditions in which the bosses put him.

[Smirnoff]

Improving quality control is great news

[Cosm22]

What quality of control are we talking about?
It is good that the fault was found.
But why did this happen only at the cosmodrome? This is far from great.
This raises a number of questions for the entire production cycle, inspection regime, control at all stages of production and tolerances. No meat grinders are made in the shops.

[svp67]

Quote: Smirnoff

Improving quality control is great news

Yeah ... thanks to the French. And as it is in our own way, they have ruined the system of step-by-step control, which has been built for decades, for decades, you see SAVINGS, and now we "scratch our turnips" and think, how can we restore all this, but spend a minimum of money

[frog]

So you will also remember medicine and so on ...

[svp67]

Quote: frog

So you will also remember medicine and so on ...

Do you think the time has not come? It is high time to remember the salaries in Rossnano and Skolkovo and compare these costs with the effect on the development of the economy, in particular, and the country as a whole. And then compare the same salaries for teachers, for the medical staff

[frog]

Is this a rhetorical question? Or are you seriously interested?)) If you are serious, there was something in the folklore about fish, putrefactive processes, etc. ..... With the correct solution of problems, all the questions you have named are solved automatically. But no one will solve them.

[Kuroneko]

Roskosmos specialists found seven more faulty valves in the blocks of the first stages of the Soyuz-2 launch vehicles, thereby preventing possible emergencies.

Lord, but this is a nightmare! In the USSR, this was generally impossible - there was the strictest quality control control at all stages of production and assembly.

[andr327]

Obvious problems in the control system. In addition to the factory quality control department, where was the incoming inspection at the assembly?

[spirit]

Apparently how much, this uncle Vasya was paid to the master, he made such a valve work on salary)

[Sergey39]

There is a deadline for such work, not a salary.

[Malyuta]

Quote: Sergey39

There is a deadline for such work, not a salary.

The deadline is due to those who have established such meager salaries!

[Sergey39]

It does not interfere. A small salary is bad, but not a reason to sabotage with huge losses.

[Malyuta]

Quote: Sergey39

It does not interfere.

So Ragozin will sing songs, and will the conventional uncle Vasya pull the strap?

[Sergey39]

The conditional uncle Vasya, who committed sabotage in 2016, has long been rewarded and lives abroad. Here we need to talk not about Rogozin, but about the security and protection service.

[Sling cutter]

Quote: Sergey39

The conditional uncle Vasya, who committed sabotage in 2016, has long been rewarded and lives abroad. Here we need to talk not about Rogozin, but about the security and protection service.

What are you talking about? You can't normally buy Vasya's salary, but this fat one is getting thicker and thicker! Comrade Stalin would have shot him to hell and sent his son to sunny Magadan and everything would have worked out right away.

[Sergey39]

Quote: Stroporez

That's what you make

What do you suggest? Anyone with small salaries to sabotage? The question, of course, must be solved, but not in this way.

[Sling cutter]

Quote: Sergey39

What do you suggest? Anyone with small salaries to sabotage? The question, of course, must be solved, but not in this way.

And why did you decide that this is a sabotage? And if there was a guy who did the plastic windows the day before yesterday?
You understand that there is no one to work and a turner of the 5th grade is like a dinosaur! The vocational school was destroyed, where can we get the workers from? !!!

[Sergey39]

Quote: Stroporez

And why did you decide that this is a sabotage

I did not decide, but assumed. There is all the data for this. All supposed "mistakes" are the same and executed in a series, at the same time. Of course, the explanations may be different, but this is more like the truth.

[Sling cutter]

Quote: Sergey39

Of course, the explanations may be different, but this is more like the truth.

About the spies? Sometimes it seems to me that half of our country is sick, and instead of finally realizing that EVERYTHING has collapsed in the country, but no, we must shift the blame not on the authorities, but on the spies from the 125th convoy.
This is real madness.

[Malyuta]

Quote: Stroporez

About the spies?

Spyonomania has become fashionable today

[Sling cutter]

Quote: Malyuta

Spyonomania has become fashionable today

Count it up, Bro! All the spies of the world gathered to plow the missile, but vigilant raspikosmos revealed their atrocities. Ugh, damn it.

[K-36]

Sergey39 "I did not decide, but assumed. There is all the data for this. All supposed "mistakes" are the same and executed in a series, at the same time... Of course, the explanations may be different, but this is more like the truth."
Yeah ... These are the same investigators working on the "Case" of Platoshkin. They, too, "did not decide, but assumed." And they, too, have "all supposed" mistakes "the same and executed in a series, at the same time." What an unexpected coincidence
And that neither these would-be investigators, nor you have any evidence - this is such trifles ... The main thing is that there is an ASSUMPTION, and the evidence is some kind of garbage, just a pitiful relic (isn't it?).
Go on, you will have an excellent and comfortable career in the herd of such investigators.
Or will you think about the tasks of a normal investigation and justice? You decide...

[Sergey39]

The evidence is provided in court and I am not an investigator and here is not a court. And no career awaits me. And here you are clearly waiting for a career among the deniers of everything and everything right and left.

[Overlock]

Quote: Sergey39

..sabotage...

it intentional non-fulfillment or negligent fulfillment of certain duties, latent opposition to the implementation of something.
First you need to prove "intentional"

[Sergey39]

Quote: Overlock

First you need to prove "intentional"

As "sabotage" - yes. But damage caused by negligence is also punishable. Or did poor "Uncle Vasya" make a mistake through carelessness due to chronic malnutrition? :)

[Overlock]

Quote: Sergey39

Or did poor "Uncle Vasya" make a careless mistake because of chronic malnutrition?

exclude such an option?

[Sergey39]

Quote: Overlock

exclude such an option?

By negligence - no, I don't exclude it. But due to malnutrition, yes, seven times in a row - it definitely looks like a diversion.

[Van 16]

"seven times in a row"
This does not look like sabotage, but a violation of technology. Perhaps due to outdated equipment. For example (just for example) - on a thermal furnace, century-old control devices, the recorder writes one thing, in fact the temperature is different. On paper, everything is fine, the thermogram is good, and the dimensions will "go away". Which, however, does not remove responsibility from control.

[Sergey39]

Quote: Van 16

It looks like not a sabotage, but a violation of technology

Quite possible. Only here we are not talking about equipment, but about "conditional uncle Vasya", who, in theory, should have natural intelligence. And I already wrote about the question to the services.

[New Year day]

Quote: Sergey39

yes seven times in a row - definitely looks like sabotage.

и

Quote: Van 16

This does not look like sabotage, but a violation of technology.

Ivan is right!
+ mess and indifference

[pyagomail.com]

Of course, you have to pay a normal salary, but it's a fairy tale that they don't work well, because the salary is small, but if it is big, they will work well - this is a fairy tale! If you can't work well, quit!

[Van 16]

So they quit. Others do not come for a small salary. As a result, instead of 20 thermists on the site, 12, instead of 5 controllers, 2, etc. And they simply do not have time. Accordingly, the likelihood of missing a marriage increases dramatically.

[Bad_gr]

Quote: pyagomail.ru

Of course, you have to pay a normal salary, but the tale that they do not work well, because the salary is small, .............

When the salary of a small specialist leaves, and in his place comes a guest worker, with the appropriate quality of work. Or, more often than not, the responsibilities of the departed are scattered among those who remain, and the rate is reduced.

[Ros 56]

And why haven’t their hands been chopped off yet. Pity will destroy us.

[iouris]

For example, an IAS specialist provided 7 thousand departures, i.e. should he be awarded for preventing 7 thousand accidents or disasters?

[Selevc]

In a normal country, they would have already filed a lawsuit against the company - the manufacturer of the marriage ... They would have imposed all fines on them for broken contracts and would have tried the management up to paying forfeits and fines at the expense of their personal property !!!

And in China, they would simply be taken out to the square on Monday and shot - others would not be familiar !!! Russia is a country in which one carelessness and negligence gives rise to another and there is no end to it !!!

[AVA77]

In China, figs would you know about it.

[Selevc]

In China, figs would you know about it.

They filmed it all - execution in a public place !!! The video is full in the internet !!!

But any official in China - from a petty boss to a minister will think 10 times - before taking up his post - Do I fit this post ???
And only in Russia, or in other countries of the former USSR - at posts it is a common thing - godfathers and sons-in-law (with wide-format beefy faces) who feed on their places and do not work !!!
In principle, in the Russian Federation they "worked" in such a way that under Tsar Peas, under the Communists or under the Democrats, nothing has changed in 1000 years !!! But in China, everything has fundamentally changed - therefore, China today is the leader of the planet and the Russian Federation is grazing the back ones !!!

[NDR-791]

And the family pays for the patron and the funeral

[AVA77]

They may shoot executions, but they don't talk too much. Treason, sabotage, and so on, by the way, you would have already been taken for a statement.
China is a country in which one carelessness and negligence gives rise to another and there is no end to it !!! And do not forget the Internet on their passports.

[Selevc]

China is a country in which one carelessness and negligence gives rise to another and there is no end to it !!!

Just a lie !!! If it were so, China would not be the leader of the planet in all economic indicators !!! People who live in fear are not able to achieve high performance - and the Chinese have achieved this - both in electronics and in the manufacture of cars and in space exploration and in many other things !!!

Today, the United States is a degrading country and China is on the rise - and this rise is provided by the honest labor of hundreds of millions of Chinese !!! And the Chinese authorities are protecting the peaceful and safe life of these hundreds of millions, weeding out the corrupt and corrupt rot, and they are doing the right thing !!!

[AVA77]

Tek is your statement, I just changed the name of the country.
Or do you prefer to shit only on Russia and in China all the saints

[Selevc]

Or do you prefer to shit only on Russia and in China all the saints

It’s you who are shitting and I’m just writing the truth .. The usual truth that is everywhere in the internet and in the kitchen has been told for decades !!! "Lawlessness of officials" is already a common noun in the Russian Federation, the same as, for example, "Italian mafia" ... It's no secret to anyone the topic of China's large-scale economic achievements in recent decades and the problems in the United States !!!

I wrote that all the saints in China ??? China is really developing and the Russian Federation pretends that it is developing and probably there are serious reasons for this !!!

In China there is a crime and there is a punishment, and in the Russian Federation there is a crime and there is no punishment - there is connivance, there is a cover for its own people and there is an ostrich policy - I know nothing and it does not concern me !!! This is how the powers that be of the Russian Federation behave (by the way, for a very, very long time) and the people understand this very well and also understand that this is the cause of so many troubles in the country !!!

[AVA77]

Actually, I didn't shit on anyone, not on Russia, not on China. You started this bagpipe.
And why should everyone believe you? For with your lips the truth (simple truth) speaks and it speaks for decades. That it seems to me that you are a liar and a balabol. Essentially, the question is not one word, a banal attack on the fan, how bad we will all die.
Bored girls good luck.

[Imobile]

China has built a private economy and all communists work for private traders. We have a private owner - a dirty word that needs to be milked. In China, the death penalty

[Bad_gr]

Quote: Selevc

They filmed it all - execution in a public place !!! The video is full in the internet !!!

Quote: Selevc

and China is on the rise - and this rise is ensured by the honest labor of hundreds of millions of Chinese !!!

And who, then, is shot?

[vitvit123]

The country in which we live, these are people, these are you and me, these are our children whom we are raising. Those who abuse the country are always surprised, the country is all of us.

[mark2]

Those who abuse the country are always surprised, the country is all of us

And such themselves are among the scammers for whom the zone is not crying. They are the best. But for some reason they sit on the forums. They seem to be accumulating strength. As soon as possible...

[Alex66]

The result of the check was not only the establishment of the batch number, shift and the master who allowed the defects of parts ... Those. the manufactured valves did not pass acceptance by the Quality Control Department, they were not checked at the stand before they were put in place, not only one worker is to blame for this system error and the work of a group of people. Or just the valve was made in some IP and passed off as the original.

[Roman070280]

Or just the valve was made in some IP and passed off as the original.

23.11.2012
Parts for Soyuz missiles were made in a Samara garage

Parts for missiles under the state order were stamped in Samara garages for a year and a half. In total, local Kulibins have spent 15 million rubles in state money.
The final assembly was carried out at the design bureau itself, and the necessary documentation was drawn up in the Chelyabinsk region at the Ust-Katavsky car building plant. The production lasted for a year and a half. When the design bureau began to delay the salaries of employees, a commission from Korolev arrived at the subsidiary, which revealed the violations.

[cat_Bayum]

And what about the military acceptance everyone is silent ?? As if it does not exist ... Or do military representatives have salaries like locksmiths ???

[Roman070280]

And if so??

Roscosmos specialists installed seven more faulty valves in the blocks of the first stages of the Soyuz-2 launch vehicles, thereby allowing possible emergencies.

Well, therefore, they already "discovered", "prevented" and received prizes ..))

[7,62x54]

So who made the hole on the ISS?

[Hunter 2]

Quote: 7,62x54

So who made the hole on the ISS?

The Commander once answered me ... I say in our tent Hole - He looked and said "You will find the Hole in due time ... And this is the Ventilation Hole."

[New Year day]

Quote: 7,62x54

So who made the hole on the ISS?

somehow it turned out

[Mountain shooter]

Previously it was called simply - sabotage, and there was a real term for this ... it's a pity that those days are gone ...

[Vlad Pervovich]

tree sticks ! found something to boast about .... just a shame of some kind!

[Vadim237]

Well, the UEC Kuznetsov will grab a svizdyuley and they can sue this manufacturer for such a lousy product for a multimillion-dollar lawsuit and put the guilty in general.

[_Oplot_]

News from the "great" power. 1. "Roscosmos" opened a section on the site with Rogozin's songs. 2. Rogozin announced the reduction of the Roscosmos apparatus by 100 people. The salaries of the Roscosmos management have been reduced by 15-20%, while the staff of the state corporation has been reduced by 100 people. This was announced by Dmitry Rogozin, General Director of Roscosmos, "Now we have a maximum economy mode." 3. "Roskosmos" wants to produce perfume, clothing and alcohol "Let's go!" Roscosmos told the agency about plans to register the famous Gagarin's "Let's Go!" As a trademark. and other "historical designations" to insulate themselves from unfair competition. Well, where is the United States with their rovers on Mars and China with their lunar AMC to the success of the "great" and "mighty" RF.

[Pavel57]

It's very common to write about this as an achievement.

[iouris]

Achievement is 125.

[StroiaBat]

Roskosmos specialists discovered seven more faulty valves in the blocks of the first stages of the Soyuz-2 carrier rockets, thereby preventing

There Roskosmos generally needs to carry out a sweep, sabotage after sabotage and everything is somehow tricky .. Before each launch I worry constantly, suddenly they insert the wrong plug again or make a hole in something .. You can kick, but the feeling is rarely deceived!
The West does not need a strong Russia and will shit as best they can with bribery, sanctions, etc.

[Alexander Vorontsov]

The result of the check was not only the establishment of the batch number, shift and master,

Poor dude =))

[impostor]

The salaries of the heads of the space agencies of Russia and the United States differ significantly in favor of Russia, the salaries of engineers and technicians differ tenfold in favor of the United States. What are the claims to the master and the brigade? How you pay - so they work.

[Sergey Averchenkov]

Well, have you done enough shit on Roskosmos, Rogozin, his children, and I don't know who else you dragged here? No? Well, shit further. For the first time in my life I see such people ... do not feed bread, but let me humiliate your homeland. And you don't need to tell me about constructive criticism - as you can see ... you savor every word you say - you like it. When I learn something unpleasant about Russia, I feel embarrassed, as if I was to blame ... But you savor it. Ugh, oh my god ...

[jovanni]

The result of the check was not only the establishment of the batch number, shift and the master, who allowed the marriage of parts produced in 2016 at the Samara enterprise "UEC-Kuznetsov",

And I naively thought that in the space industry, every detail passes well, at least, a triple test. And does not rely only on the honesty of the master. And it looks like ... It is now clear why the people's money from time to time together with the fallen rocket bye-bye. The master - the infection is to blame ...

[seacap]

And how is this even possible, tb. with the technologies of royal missiles, which have been assembled for more than a dozen years? What is happening in the industry and what is the culture of production there, every malfunction has a name and surname, when I was working on such equipment in each connector there was a surname of the assembler of this connector That's what it means "effective manager" with a journalist diploma, instead of a design engineer in the leadership, it turns out that the loot does not solve everything sometimes, and sometimes brains and knowledge with experience are needed. Is it any wonder that after "effective managers" who do not even know what they manage and why All this is necessary around, we cannot make a single plane, that there are no doctors and we are destroying medicine during a pandemic, I apologize, we are reforming, but in our country it is the same thing already. It’s a blessing that the country is still big and the people are totally literate, the inertia is great, you cannot ruin everything all at once. Something our personnel policy in leading industries and government agencies began to look more like sabotage and direct sabotage, each new appointment is worse than the previous one.

[fa2998]

Well, what a detective! The foremen figured out! All the money upstairs was divided, they put their salaries, that NASA envied. Something lowered to the plant, the same is full of "effective managers" - the director, chief economist, etc. And the foremen and workers were left with a penny. And now all the demand And before that you can't control it, just shovel money from the treasury?