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Three armed violators tried to break through from the territory of Ukraine to Russia

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Three armed violators tried to break through from the territory of Ukraine to Russia

Russian border guards stopped an attempt to violate the Russian state border by three armed unknown persons from Ukraine. According to the DSP of the FSB of the Russian Federation, during the shootout, one of the offenders was killed, two of them managed to hide on Ukrainian territory.


According to the report, three armed unknown persons tried to enter Russian territory in the area of ​​responsibility of the FSB border directorate for the Belgorod and Voronezh regions, the exact location has not been named. The perpetrators were discovered by border guards, and during an attempt to arrest they opened fire on Russian border guards. By return fire, one of them was destroyed on the spot, two fled to the territory of Ukraine.

On December 4, at the section of the Border Directorate of the FSB of Russia for the Belgorod and Voronezh regions, on December XNUMX, a frontier detachment suppressed an attempt to violate the border from Ukraine to the Russian Federation by three armed unknown persons. While trying to arrest the violators showed armed resistance. As a result of return fire, one of them received injuries incompatible with life, two fled to the territory of Ukraine

- said in a statement.

The necessary operational and investigative actions are carried out at the scene. At the moment, the FSB does not provide other details of what happened.
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  1. The leader of the Redskins
    The leader of the Redskins 4 December 2020 12: 22
    +39
    Well done. The border guards have always been at their best.
    1. Uncle lee
      Uncle lee 4 December 2020 12: 33
      +20
      three armed unidentified persons tried to enter Russian territory
      Guys are worthy successors of the Karatsupa cause!
      1. newcomer
        newcomer 4 December 2020 12: 42
        +8
        Interestingly, this is a "test balloon" gur ukrvermaht, or the amateur performance of the Nazis?
        1. ccsr
          ccsr 4 December 2020 12: 48
          +34
          Quote: newbie
          Interestingly, this is a "test balloon" gur ukrvermaht, or the amateur performance of the Nazis?

          I think that these were ordinary smugglers, quite possibly with drugs or with something else of value that they were afraid to carry through customs. So it's too early to say what it was, until the details of this incident are presented.
          1. newcomer
            newcomer 4 December 2020 12: 51
            +12
            Let's hope that's exactly the case, but. I am plagued by vague doubts_ whether the smugglers could so cleverly move away, having lost only one, and even open fire ...
            1. ccsr
              ccsr 4 December 2020 13: 22
              +11
              Quote: newbie
              could the smugglers move away so cleverly, having lost only one, and even open fire ...

              So if they were carrying millions of dollars worth of contraband, then their accomplices themselves would have decided if the border guards took their goods. That is why they will do anything - it was even in the Soviet era with smuggling in the Caucasus and Central Asia.
              1. newcomer
                newcomer 4 December 2020 13: 28
                +4
                And what does the Caucasus and Asia have to do with it? Have you often heard that double basses would shoot back from border guards? Drugs are not so stupidly transferred across the border, the methods there are more sophisticated and perfected. I have never heard that after the opening of the party or the seizure of the cargo by the border guards, someone would look for the safety of the border guards.
                1. ccsr
                  ccsr 4 December 2020 13: 41
                  +9
                  Quote: newbie
                  And what does the Caucasus and Asia have to do with it? Have you often heard that double basses would shoot back from border guards?

                  Even in Soviet times, our border guards died on the border, including from the bullets of smugglers, especially in the mountains - you are simply not in the subject.
                  Quote: newbie
                  Drugs are not so stupidly transferred across the border, the methods there are more sophisticated and perfected.

                  Who told you this - drug couriers themselves, carrying small doses in their stomachs? What about submarines in the USA or yachts cruising in Europe? Have you heard of this?
                  In Spain, Bulgarians and Russians were detained for transporting hashish on yachts
                  As part of the operation, the Spanish authorities seized more than 30 tons of drugs

                  Read more at RBC:
                  https://www.rbc.ru/society/30/09/2020/5f74ad8a9a79470f1b5b12fc
                  Why are Ukrainian "mules" who take 10-20 kg of synthetic drugs or cocaine worse than those who carry tons on yachts?
                  1. newcomer
                    newcomer 4 December 2020 13: 48
                    -9
                    Colleague, you got carried away ... Caucasus, Asia, USA, Spain, you are dispersed, colleague. We are talking about the border zone of the Belgorod region. in turbulent times, and Belgorod was repeatedly "captured" by the Nazis in their "campaigns" to Rostov. Now you understand my point of view, subjective, but mine?
                    1. ccsr
                      ccsr 4 December 2020 13: 57
                      +7
                      Quote: newbie
                      Colleague, you got carried away ... Caucasus, Asia, USA, Spain, you are dispersed, colleague.

                      This business is international, and even while our troops were in Afghanistan, the supply of drugs was established from there, including through some military personnel.
                      Quote: newbie
                      We are talking about the border zone of the Belgorod region. in troubled times

                      You probably did not come across that customs office, and I can tell you how corrupt Ukrainian customs officers and border guards were until 2014, while I went there. Now everything has become more difficult, so they found a detour, especially since Yatsenyuk did not finish building the wall, so the smugglers are looking for any loopholes at the border.
                      Quote: newbie
                      Now you understand my point of view, subjective, but mine?

                      My point of view is based on reality, and not on what their Nazis talk about.
                      1. newcomer
                        newcomer 4 December 2020 14: 07
                        -1
                        Colleague, you generalized one criminal incident to the global drug trade.
                        It is more convenient for you to see it from the angle of economic crime, so look. You understand my point of view, I_ yours. Why are you imposing this unnecessary dialogue on me?
                      2. Ovsigovets
                        Ovsigovets 4 December 2020 23: 21
                        +1
                        the violators have weapons, but not a word about drugs and smuggling ...... think about it
                      3. Boris Nevzorov
                        Boris Nevzorov 5 December 2020 06: 14
                        +4
                        Three armed violators tried to break through from the territory of Ukraine to Russia


                        Blitz-grunt failed.
                        After 6 years of war with Russia, Ukraine nevertheless decided on an offensive operation, but was forced to retreat, having lost a third of its army.
                  2. Avior
                    Avior 4 December 2020 13: 57
                    +4
                    Was Belgorod captured? do not understand, what are you talking about?
                    1. newcomer
                      newcomer 4 December 2020 14: 03
                      -4
                      More closely_ "captured".
                    2. Avior
                      Avior 4 December 2020 14: 06
                      0
                      I see that in quotes, but I didn't understand the sentence
                      Moreover, Belgorod was repeatedly "captured" by the Natsiks in their "campaigns" on Rostov.
                    3. newcomer
                      newcomer 4 December 2020 14: 13
                      -4
                      You have never seen or heard the statements of the Ukrnatsiks and radicals, but politicians? And given that everything is mixed up in this house: security forces, Nazis, government agencies, it can be assumed that this sortie was not a double bass.
                      Pordon, I will add. If you are talking about the discrepancy of geography, then this is not for me, it is necessary to ask them. Moreover, the geography of their campaign through Belgorod reaches Krasnodar.
                    4. Boris Nevzorov
                      Boris Nevzorov 5 December 2020 06: 18
                      +3
                      Three armed violators tried to break through from the territory of Ukraine to Russia


                      One was shot, it is a pity that not all three.
        2. Tank hard
          Tank hard 4 December 2020 20: 28
          0
          Quote: newbie
          Drugs are not so stupidly transferred across the border, the methods there are more sophisticated and perfected.

          As soon as drugs are not transported. The intelligence of the "carriers", as well as the capabilities, are completely different, and everyone wants money, and preferably at once. A friend of mine worked in a special unit of the anti-narcotics service in Kyrgyzstan. And in a command position, and personally made a seizure. What did not tell. request
        3. Nikolaevich I
          Nikolaevich I 4 December 2020 22: 03
          -1
          Or maybe they are behind the toilets?
          1. newcomer
            newcomer 4 December 2020 22: 07
            0
            Hurry for bacon. Great contraband product. A paradox of local significance.
    2. orionvitt
      orionvitt 4 December 2020 17: 42
      0
      Quote: newbie
      could smugglers have so cleverly moved away, having lost only one

      Just the smugglers could. And deftly move away, and lose someone there. Although, I doubt it. International channels for the transportation of drugs have long been established and operate practically without interruptions, pumping tens and hundreds of tons through themselves. Carrying drugs "in the park" (like Ilf and Petrov wore perfume across the Romanian border), in our time, no one will. I think that this is a common provocation in the spirit of Ukraine. Not the first time.
      1. newcomer
        newcomer 4 December 2020 17: 47
        0
        Well, am I not talking about the same thing?
  2. Hunter 2
    Hunter 2 4 December 2020 12: 54
    +10
    The load was thrown ... so we will soon find out who It was.
    The language is certainly better, but I think so - they will figure it out!
    1. Kuroneko
      Kuroneko 4 December 2020 13: 25
      +4
      Quote: Hunter 2
      The language is certainly better, but I think so - they will figure it out!

      How the old saying has become nowadays - "the language will bring to Kiev". Don’t you? Although now it is Kiyuv / Kuiv, according to the Zhovto-Blakytnykh ..
  3. carstorm 11
    carstorm 11 4 December 2020 13: 09
    +6
    90 percent that drugs. The Ministry of Internal Affairs has long said that most of the synthetics are sold by the Ukrainian gentlemen.
    1. Bolt cutter
      Bolt cutter 4 December 2020 13: 47
      0
      most synthetics
      Almost all the main precursors for the manufacture of synthetic drugs are sold there legally. But it's expensive. There is a feeling that someone has lobbied this "industry" under the control of a loved one.
  4. Horon
    Horon 4 December 2020 13: 13
    +4
    Drug smugglers with weapons? Why does a drug dealer need a weapon? For drugs he will get a term, for armed resistance a bullet! It is doubtful that suicides go to drug couriers.
    1. Hagalaz
      Hagalaz 4 December 2020 13: 22
      +6
      With the easy accessibility of weapons there and the abundance of frostbitten ATOs, anything is possible. Why immediately suicide? A trained, armed and sufficiently determined criminal expects to be successful.
      1. Horon
        Horon 4 December 2020 13: 32
        +4
        As a drug courier, he will only draw increased attention to this route, but does the drug mafia need it? Armed confrontation at the border has a different level than drug traffic. In this place now they can first shoot now, and then figure out who is staggering here, and this will be not only from the Russian side, but also from the Ukrainian side. There, too, I suppose the border guards tensed when the shooting began. I speak only in the case of contraband, not to a specially trained and officially dispatched group.
        1. Hagalaz
          Hagalaz 4 December 2020 13: 43
          +4
          Write logically, no doubt. But there are enough freaking out who are not on friendly terms with logic. Maybe they are loners, not organized.
          1. Horon
            Horon 4 December 2020 13: 49
            0
            Quote: Hagalaz
            Write logically, no doubt. But there are enough freaking out who are not on friendly terms with logic. Maybe they are loners, not organized.

            Here, yes, it cannot be ruled out. Then those who survived did not live long, they lost the party.
        2. Ascold1901
          Ascold1901 4 December 2020 14: 11
          0
          You write correctly. I don’t know how in the Russian law on the Border, but in the Soviet it was clearly stated that when crossing the border line with a weapon, an outfit could open fire Without a warning shot. True, in words, it was recommended to shout so that they would go back - suddenly by accident. Logically, they should have killed everyone, but maybe they wanted to take them alive.
          1. Horon
            Horon 4 December 2020 14: 22
            0
            Most likely one walked slightly ahead. The patrol reacted to him, then there was a firefight, after which the rest fled to Ukrainian territory. If the fire was opened by the violators at a short distance, then it would not have done without losses. This is just my opinion.
        3. Stas Sv
          Stas Sv 4 December 2020 20: 07
          0
          Ukraine has already declared: saw nothing, heard nothing winked
        4. atakan
          atakan 5 December 2020 13: 14
          0
          There, too, I suppose the border guards tensed when the shooting began.
          Or is it the SBU? Or sectarians dragged drugs to ukrofilial? Not everything can be carried through the US and Ukrainian embassies.
    2. Avior
      Avior 4 December 2020 13: 23
      -1
      large batch - long term.
      everything happens
      1. Horon
        Horon 4 December 2020 13: 37
        0
        Quote: Avior
        large batch - long term.
        everything happens

        That is, they can send a suicide, which will not only highlight the route, but also cause not weak tension at the border and increased attention from both sides?
        1. Avior
          Avior 4 December 2020 14: 01
          -1
          maybe the batch size is worth it.
          or the courier was charged with its cost
          1. Horon
            Horon 4 December 2020 14: 12
            +1
            Perhaps it was, but now there the border guards will then watch without blinking, get a bullet from an inadequate courier, this is not the same thing if an ordinary courier crosses the border. First they can start shooting, and then they will understand.
          2. Horon
            Horon 4 December 2020 14: 13
            +2
            If the drugs are not saved, then both of those who remain will not have to live long!
    3. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 4 December 2020 13: 24
      +4
      Quote: Horon
      Drug smugglers with weapons? Why does a drug dealer need a weapon?

      To protect the cargo from competitors. Because the thing is expensive, the price is considerable - and there are also many hunters for it.
      1. Horon
        Horon 4 December 2020 13: 44
        0
        The guards could see off and meet, the border could be crossed lightly.
    4. ccsr
      ccsr 4 December 2020 13: 26
      +4
      Quote: Horon
      Drug smugglers with weapons? Why does a drug dealer need a weapon?

      You poorly know this audience - they do not care 25 years old or a lifetime shines for such volumes, that's why they are unarmed and will not go to work. Now even dealers cannot do without guns, knowing what shines for them - this has long been known from the criminal chronicle.
      1. Horon
        Horon 4 December 2020 13: 42
        +3
        If so, then this section of the border will become impenetrable at all for a sufficiently long period. Moreover, they will increase attention on both sides.
  5. Lynx2000
    Lynx2000 4 December 2020 14: 13
    +1
    Quote: ccsr
    Quote: newbie
    Interestingly, this is a "test balloon" gur ukrvermaht, or the amateur performance of the Nazis?

    I think that these were ordinary smugglers, quite possibly with drugs or with something else of value that they were afraid to carry through customs. So it's too early to say what it was, until the details of this incident are presented.

    Something doubtful that these are ordinary smugglers. It's easier to surrender, even if they are detained with drugs or weapons, there is an option that there will be a criminal case for violating the state border. In the best scenario, they will be sent to Ukraine. The smugglers are ordinary criminals, they know about responsibility for the attempt on the life of law enforcement officials, and they generally don't get involved with the "Chekists" ...
    You can get a life sentence for an attempt.
    For DRG - clumsy. Perhaps the initiative of the "Nazis" ...

    P.S. On the border with Kazakhstan, our border guards constantly intercept smugglers with goods from China or foolishness, sometimes such trucks are found there in the style of "Mad Max", but everything is limited to chasing without a shootout, and, at most, by rams.
  6. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
    Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 4 December 2020 16: 36
    -2
    Quote: ccsr
    I think they were ordinary smugglers

    If "ordinary" with trunks, then what are "unusual"?
  7. Alex777
    Alex777 4 December 2020 19: 49
    -1
    I think that these were ordinary smugglers, quite possibly with drugs or with something else of value that they were afraid to carry through customs.

    Well, yes, the "ordinary double basses" were not afraid to engage in battle with the border guards and two managed to escape. This is preparation.
    I don't think this version is real. hi
  • StroiaBat
    StroiaBat 4 December 2020 16: 44
    0
    Quote: Uncle Lee
    three armed unidentified persons tried to enter Russian territory
    Guys are worthy successors of the Karatsupa cause!

    Bravo Vladimir good !!! I also thought about it right away .. It's a pity that the two managed to escape ..
    It was necessary to pursue or inflict an air strike, as some small countries do right away in any danger wink
  • bobba94
    bobba94 4 December 2020 14: 32
    +1
    In the Belgorod region, smugglers attacked a border guards outfit and took away two Makarov pistols with cartridges. It happened on September 10, 2012 at 23-00 o'clock near the village of Mokra Orlovka.
  • Andrey Zhdanov-Nedilko
    Andrey Zhdanov-Nedilko 4 December 2020 14: 52
    +2
    Not up to par - why did they let two leave?!? It was necessary to use them too!
  • Thrifty
    Thrifty 4 December 2020 12: 24
    +2
    There will be more and more such cases! It was necessary to pursue them further, and the best option in this case is an attack drone, with combat missiles under its wings! So that, using the example of those fragments of the zaslanets, the rest of the ukroboeviki understand that Russia will not joke!
    1. evgen1221
      evgen1221 4 December 2020 12: 46
      +4
      Or maybe just fit Poplar? And be sure to bang. Who xs, how and why.
      1. Thrifty
        Thrifty 4 December 2020 12: 50
        +1
        Evgen1221-no, prepare bouquets of flowers, and give each militant from there, when you try to cross the border, give flowers, and give a candy! negative
        1. Reviews
          Reviews 4 December 2020 14: 02
          +2
          Quote: Thrifty
          Evgen1221-no, prepare bouquets of flowers

          Battery "Carnation"?
    2. carstorm 11
      carstorm 11 4 December 2020 13: 08
      +4
      You will not be stunned to chase every violator on the wrong side?) But the border guards have nothing else to do))))
    3. nov_tech.vrn
      nov_tech.vrn 4 December 2020 13: 21
      +1
      So what, just bomb the SBU in Kiev?
      1. Andrey Zhdanov-Nedilko
        Andrey Zhdanov-Nedilko 4 December 2020 15: 05
        +1
        I think that the SBU is now unable to control and work in its own country, let alone climb into the adjacent territory - where do they ... And smugglers in the border areas were, are and will be. So in all countries of the world and at all times. And it does not depend on what kind of government is in the country - fascists, communists or "purple-green with a black dot".
  • rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 4 December 2020 12: 27
    +7
    one of the violators was killed, two managed to hide on Ukrainian territory.
    It's a pity that they managed to escape. I may be cynical, but put the corpse on display on a ruler so that it can be clearly seen from the adjacent side. Relatives themselves will come with a request to return the body. That's More information will appear who, why and for what.
    1. dauria
      dauria 4 December 2020 12: 52
      +4
      ... Relatives themselves will come with a request to return the body


      Well, if your relatives live in St. Petersburg, and come from Torzhok, what will you say? And if this is not a "ukrovermacht", but an ordinary native criminal "lads" running from corner to corner on their own business?
      1. bk316
        bk316 4 December 2020 13: 00
        +5
        our native criminal "lads",

        Are OUR lads inviolable?
        1. martin-159
          martin-159 5 December 2020 07: 01
          -2
          Quote: bk316
          Are OUR lads inviolable?

          We don't give out ours.
          1. bk316
            bk316 6 December 2020 13: 09
            0
            We don't give out ours.

            So we didn't give him out - we just shot him laughing
      2. alexmach
        alexmach 4 December 2020 13: 08
        +1
        Tsenichko of course, but crossing the border and opening fire on the border guards knew what they were doing. It goes without saying that it is unacceptable to scoff at bodies.
  • Second major
    Second major 4 December 2020 12: 28
    -24%
    Why were the others allowed to leave ?! Not enough accuracy?
    1. Merry_Militarist
      Merry_Militarist 4 December 2020 12: 53
      +9
      Why were the others allowed to leave ?! Not enough accuracy?

      You would be there, you would put everyone with one bullet, John Rambo you are ours.
    2. Pandiurin
      Pandiurin 4 December 2020 12: 56
      +13
      Quote: Seconds Major
      Why were the others allowed to leave ?! Not enough accuracy?

      If you fantasize
      It could be like this
      We were not walking in a crowd, one in front, the other two accompanied / covered / waited for the signal that the road was clear.
      They took the first, like stop throwing your weapon.
      I didn’t give up - they shot them, two of them left, do not pursue them on the territory of another state.

      Outcome: violation of the border was stopped, one of the violators was destroyed. There is an opportunity to do some kind of development, setting a personality, a composite sketch, fingerprints, DNA, etc.
      The main task is completed - the border is locked, there are no losses on our side. Participants will be nominated for an award.
      1. VORON538
        VORON538 4 December 2020 13: 44
        0
        It is quite a plausible version, especially if the state border is arranged as it should be, that is, the system, csp ... the intruder allows it to be triggered ... the "funny" ones come forward ... he does not have time to leave, and the other two simply did not have time to crawl through the passage through the fence . Catching them on the territory of Ukraine is already the work of ukropograntsov. Shootout and their zmur. Pograntsam now unsubscribe for the reptile. Everything is possible. hiIn general, well done, they worked quickly!
  • aszzz888
    aszzz888 4 December 2020 12: 29
    +3
    while trying to detain, they opened fire on Russian border guards. By return fire, one of them was destroyed on the spot, two fled to the territory of Ukraine.
    Sorry. All to live, so that next time they will not climb into the Russian Federation.
  • Hunter 2
    Hunter 2 4 December 2020 12: 31
    +12
    It is a pity that they could not detain. To ask who and why ...
    And so, Border Guards - Well done! Alive - and stopped entering. But ... you need to improve the Quality of Fire Training, so that more than one Mouse does not leave.
    1. Runway
      Runway 4 December 2020 13: 30
      +2
      The outfit was for nvdng or unprepared cover. Definitely not a watch. They cut off from the GG = the battle was going on within our territory (firing at the adjacent is fraught). Four magazines with 25 rounds - not to fire.
      There will be a lot of scribble.
      So that the border with Ukraine is not a sieve (which it is now), it is necessary to carry out a comprehensive IOG (which we do not have).
      1. Brturin
        Brturin 4 December 2020 13: 57
        0
        Quote: WFP
        need to carry out a complex IOG (which we do not have).

        the question is, is it a de facto border, but de jure it is framed? Carrying out the arrangement of the border - in fact, recognition of what has developed at the moment, and then prove that either ...
        1. Avior
          Avior 4 December 2020 14: 00
          +1
          demarcation was not carried out there.
          1. Runway
            Runway 4 December 2020 15: 04
            0
            Yes, but not a reason. The reason is different.
        2. Runway
          Runway 4 December 2020 15: 03
          0
          Bullshit, sorry.
      2. Hunter 2
        Hunter 2 4 December 2020 13: 58
        +1
        Excellent Commentary good crisp and clear.
        I once sniffed in the direction of Italy crying now I don't go to the Border at all ... wink
    2. Motorist
      Motorist 4 December 2020 21: 14
      0
      Quote: Hunter 2
      It is a pity that they could not detain. To ask who and why ...

      One is officially a corpse, "do whatever you want with it." They will ask him ...
  • jovanni
    jovanni 4 December 2020 12: 34
    +6
    Yes. Lived. So this border has become "hot". I wish the border guards in their difficult service good luck and no losses. And they always fulfilled their task with dignity ...
    1. Avior
      Avior 4 December 2020 13: 33
      +1
      smugglers were always there. the border there is so-so guarded. there they drove across the border in cars, it happened
      1. VORON538
        VORON538 4 December 2020 13: 51
        +1
        After 2014, everything changes and the state border is brought in line with the requirements
        To be honest, in 2012 I myself was surprised how simple everything is compared to how we have it in Blago ... at that time
        I came after 2014, everything is changing. And this is how it should be! Because you don't want to go there or back! I came to my relatives in the Bryansk region.
        1. Avior
          Avior 4 December 2020 13: 56
          -1
          yes, you are right, the boundaries were not invented for that smile
        2. Avior
          Avior 4 December 2020 15: 30
          -1
          ... At the end of July, it was reported that a smuggler was detained in the Rostov region on the border with Ukraine, who sent his car to the border guards. The border department of the FSB of Russia in the region then reported that the violator was wounded.
          “In the area of ​​the settlement of Grigorievka, officers of the Border Directorate of the FSB of Russia in the Rostov Region have suppressed a smuggling transaction on the illegal movement of a large consignment of consumer goods across the border. During the arrest, the offender did not comply with the legal requirements of the border guard to stop and tried to hide in Russian territory, directing his car at the border guards, while dangerously maneuvering and posing a threat to their life and health, ”the message said. .... The incident took place on July 30th. According to a TASS source in law enforcement agencies, the detainee is a citizen of the Russian Federation.

          There are rules on the border
  • From Tomsk
    From Tomsk 4 December 2020 12: 35
    +12
    Whoever is the last to escape from Ukraine will have to pay all debts.
    Ah ha ha ha ha!
    1. Ros 56
      Ros 56 4 December 2020 12: 50
      +2
      You are wrong, the debts will be paid by whoever remains, but what is the demand from the runaways.
  • KVU-NSVD
    KVU-NSVD 4 December 2020 12: 40
    +6
    They had to take them alive, they killed the bandit - that's good, but it's more important to find out the purpose of the call.
    1. Trapp1st
      Trapp1st 4 December 2020 13: 42
      +1
      They had to take them alive, they killed the bandit - that's good, but it's more important to find out the purpose of the call.
      To risk fighters that would try to take some kind of rabble, they did not shoot water pistols. And the purpose of the call and the corpse will be clear.
  • svp67
    svp67 4 December 2020 12: 41
    +7
    So I understand that the Ukrainian version of events will be EXCELLENT.
    1. Avior
      Avior 4 December 2020 13: 09
      -2
      depending on who it really was
      if smugglers - may not be different.
    2. carstorm 11
      carstorm 11 4 December 2020 13: 11
      -2
      If she does, then this is a confession that they at least knew about it))) although in 404 there are no normal analysts left for a long time and they may well blurt out something)
      1. Avior
        Avior 4 December 2020 13: 14
        -1
        what do analysts have to do with it?
        Ukrainian border guards said that they were finding out what had happened, they did not know anything yet.
        1. carstorm 11
          carstorm 11 4 December 2020 13: 19
          0
          With all))) let's say this is an action that failed. Analysts should have calculated this initially as well as the answer to the claims. Well, this is in a normal state, of course) if these are violators, then at least they crossed the Ukrainian border too) and since they say that they do not know anything, then their border guards overslept this moment. All this already sounds wild for a country that is at war with us)))
          1. Avior
            Avior 4 December 2020 13: 22
            0
            or they just don't really know anything, for example. there is no full-fledged border.
            not to mention the fact that it was not yet clear whether they went "there" or "returned".
            with something, for example.
            will be announced soon.
            1. carstorm 11
              carstorm 11 4 December 2020 13: 23
              +2
              This is nonsense, forgive me) we have a damn war))) hordes of Russian troops invade every year and the border of the entrance yard?))) And who went where our border guards quite specifically said.
              1. Avior
                Avior 4 December 2020 13: 26
                -5
                if they were going somewhere, then somehow they were going to return.
                here is the question, at what stage they got to the border guards.
                and what is war, so who needs the border in the Belgorod region? there is no war there.
                1. carstorm 11
                  carstorm 11 4 December 2020 13: 28
                  +1
                  Read the text carefully a))) According to the report, three armed unknown persons tried to enter Russian territory in the area of ​​responsibility of the FSB border directorate for the Belgorod and Voronezh regions. Why are you turning that very specific statement upside down?)))
                  1. Avior
                    Avior 4 December 2020 13: 31
                    -2
                    Now think about what you read.
                    any smuggler who crosses the border expects to get back across the same border, because officially he cannot do it.
                    1. carstorm 11
                      carstorm 11 4 December 2020 13: 47
                      +1
                      So what?) Did they try to cross the border in the direction of Ukraine?) Is there even a hint of this in the statement?) They were caught at the stage of crossing the border from the territory of Ukraine. Everything. The question at what stage did they get to the border guards still remains?))) They passed the Ukrainian one and then crossed ours.
                      1. Avior
                        Avior 4 December 2020 13: 49
                        0
                        think at your leisure, today is not your day, it seems.
                      2. carstorm 11
                        carstorm 11 4 December 2020 13: 56
                        +1
                        What to think about? ) that you know the plan of their movement in the opposite direction?) The border guards do not have mealaphons. They react to violation. If they go to the side of the Russian Federation in order to violate the border, that's one thing. If they come from the Russian Federation it is different. Two radically different actions))) no one talks about the second, but only about a group of people trying to penetrate the territory of the Russian Federation from Ukraine. Which was stopped. You started talking about some kind of return))) you were clearly told where and where they were going from) you started talking about some options)))
          2. svp67
            svp67 4 December 2020 13: 38
            +1
            Quote: Avior
            or they just don't really know anything, for example. there is no full-fledged border.
            not to mention the fact that it was not yet clear whether they went "there" or "returned".

            How is it not? But what about the "indestructible" "eastern rampart" of the "Yatsenyuk wall"?
            1. Avior
              Avior 4 December 2020 13: 47
              +3
              Are you kidding? Only pieces in the East.
              In reality, this "shaft" was fully built only by the FSB - on the border of the Crimea and in the Cretaceous.
              Although the logic looks complicated - like a house with one wall or a locked gate with no fence.
              1. svp67
                svp67 4 December 2020 13: 56
                +1
                Quote: Avior
                Are you joking?

                Yeah ... So much pathos, such a lot of money, but at the exit ... And Yatsenyuk now has the audacity to "shine" again
            2. LiSiCyn
              LiSiCyn 4 December 2020 15: 31
              +1
              Quote: svp67
              How is it not? But what about the "indestructible" "eastern rampart" of the "Yatsenyuk wall"?

              So he only works on the "inlet" wink,
              And on the "release", please, a good journey ... laughing
  • Ros 56
    Ros 56 4 December 2020 12: 49
    +1
    It's good that they spotted these ghouls, it's bad that they didn't hobble. There are many unanswered questions. But good fellows are border guards.
  • cniza
    cniza 4 December 2020 12: 51
    +4
    By return fire, one of them was destroyed on the spot, two fled to the territory of Ukraine.


    Yes, in a nightmare I would not have dreamed of this 10 years ago, soon we will dig ditches ...
  • vavilon
    vavilon 4 December 2020 12: 54
    -1
    The guys, of course, are great, do not consider this as criticism, but it was necessary to let them go a little deeper into our territory, request reinforcements and take them warm
    1. Horon
      Horon 4 December 2020 13: 24
      +4
      If the route is prepared, they could dissolve already on the territory of Russia. There are rather densely populated areas, if they were expected, they could immediately "legalize" with documents prepared in advance, they could make a sabotage and immediately try to return. Who it was and why is not yet clear and the border guards did what they had to do!
      1. vavilon
        vavilon 4 December 2020 13: 44
        0
        I completely and completely agree with you, my suggestion was expressed as one of the options from the current situation in order to get the language, of course, that the border guards acted taking into account the terrain and to them without claims
  • AVA77
    AVA77 4 December 2020 12: 55
    +3
    A possible version of the Ukrainian side, peaceful hunters with Kalash went to winter ducks, at the same time put banners on hares and dug roots, they got lost. And then bang and angry Russians. wink
    1. carstorm 11
      carstorm 11 4 December 2020 13: 12
      +1
      Exactly) hunted in the border zone) this is generally a common occurrence)))
  • 7,62h54
    7,62h54 4 December 2020 13: 01
    +3
    We went for the vaccine, ran into
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    1. lopuhan2006
      lopuhan2006 4 December 2020 13: 44
      -3
      Not a minus Ukrainian, but minus a pan-head. The Germans, too, had mercy during the war, and there is no need to scare them with the Nazis and the Gestapo. Another thing is that no one canceled the brainwashing and there will be no difference who is aiming at me: the pan-headed, washed, or intimidated. Bullet doesn't care. The Georgians fired at us with pleasure, but the Georgian people did not particularly protest.
  • lopuhan2006
    lopuhan2006 4 December 2020 13: 39
    0
    The border troops are the shield of the Motherland! And all the rest are screws screwed into this shield! The border guard is forever!)
  • Ratmir_Ryazan
    Ratmir_Ryazan 4 December 2020 13: 54
    0
    Who are these violators? Maybe our local smugglers in general?

    Well, not armed is the invasion of Ukraine in the end.
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 4 December 2020 14: 04
    -1
    Xixiang couldn't run away, there is no physical training laughing
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 4 December 2020 14: 05
    -2
    Neighborhood with the Kin-dza-dza galaxy is our misfortune. They are consumed by passions. Vicious ...

    And the continuation of life in the form of plants is a blessing for them (c)
  • Avior
    Avior 4 December 2020 14: 15
    +1
    Ukrainian reaction to the message
    The speaker of the State Border Service of Ukraine Andriy Demchenko said that the units of the State Border Guard Service of Ukraine did not record any shots near the border with Russia, but they additionally check the area where the shooting took place, according to the Russian side.
    He said this, commenting on the statement of the FSB of the Russian Federation about an alleged shootout on the border with Ukraine in the Belgorod and Voronezh regions, which took place on December 4.
    "With the appearance in the media of reports with reference to the border service of the FSB of the Russian Federation about the event that allegedly took place on the border with Ukraine, we immediately began to check. At the same time, at about 11:00, an official message was received from the neighboring side that the alleged event took place on the border with Ukraine, and they note that it happened around midnight Moscow time, "- said the representative of the GPAU.
    .
    In addition, according to him, the Russian side had not previously informed the Ukrainian side about any non-standard situations on the common section of the border.


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  • Sars
    Sars 4 December 2020 14: 44
    0
    Literally for several days I talked about Vatsap with a friend from Sevr of Ukraine. They have green grass.
    Plus five. Enough, citizens of a known nationality, to hang noodles.
  • CastroRuiz
    CastroRuiz 4 December 2020 14: 45
    0
    Bog lyubit troicu. :)
  • Sars
    Sars 4 December 2020 14: 50
    0
    The contingent of participants on Topvar, of course, is a super-patriotic scribe, the brains themselves do not include. Ukrainians crossed the border in a blizzard eight times.Beat Ukrainians, save Russ.
    1. nov_tech.vrn
      nov_tech.vrn 4 December 2020 15: 49
      0
      Where did you see a blizzard, in Alaska? what if there are mountains on the screensaver tomorrow?
  • Sars
    Sars 4 December 2020 14: 53
    +1
    For reference, in Ukraine today + 5, the grass is green.
  • Sars
    Sars 4 December 2020 14: 54
    0
    Moderator is smart
  • Vladimir61
    Vladimir61 4 December 2020 16: 27
    0
    It is not clear what some of our media are guided by, which want to give everything an ambiguous flavor. An article was published on the Moskovsky Komsomolets website with this heading.
    FSB general justified shootout on Russian-Ukrainian border
    It is not clear what they wanted to emphasize with the word "justified", or what they saw as some intrigue.
  • Petrik66
    Petrik66 4 December 2020 19: 19
    +1
    do not go to the fortuneteller - these are ordinary smugglers. Why hohlyatsky saboteurs with Yuoi break through? I got on the train and went to the Mother See to lay tiles, bought a license, received a residence permit and everything was legalized, the rest is a matter of technology.
    1. ccsr
      ccsr 5 December 2020 15: 44
      +2
      Quote: Petrik66
      I took the train and went to the Mother See to lay tiles, bought a license, received a residence permit and everything was legalized, the rest is a matter of technology.

      Quite right, they will find someone who has not shone anywhere on the Maidans, they will train them in several months, calmly send them to Russia, where they will be legally legalized, and will wait for a command from their owners. I think that even now not everything is clear with the refugees from Donbass who received our citizenship, and which of them arrived here with a pre-prepared legend five years ago, and now is a citizen of Russia.
      The SBU will not work so clumsy with the border crossing - they have already shown how to get our people out to Belarus, and then substitute them in full. Apparently they also learned something from the Americans ...
  • Kozak Za Bugra
    Kozak Za Bugra 4 December 2020 20: 18
    +1
    The news reminded of a strange incident that happened a couple of months ago.
    In Argentina, the director of an arms factory was detained, and in the trunk of his car sat a hefty man who surprised the gendarmerie by the fact that he turned out to be Ukrainian special forces and at the same time the special service for the protection of the King of Spain.
    I could not find out more about this case.
  • Ovsigovets
    Ovsigovets 4 December 2020 23: 19
    -1
    comrades border guards ..... why only one corpse? there should have been three corpses
  • tolmachiev51
    tolmachiev51 5 December 2020 04: 24
    0
    You need to thump less - self-race in the other side. Border guards guys are tough !!!
  • Bogranz
    Bogranz 5 December 2020 09: 20
    0
    Most likely either drugs or weapons. Themselves with weapons - and it is not surprising: no one wants to sit, fight back during detention, but "there is no extradition from Ukraine," and the arms in the hands of Ukraine are like a ***** (thanks to the ATO "wiped"). It suggests itself by analogy with the events in the Pskov-Baltic sector in the dashing 90s. More details (though the situation was a little different: they asked to be allowed to smoke, but instead of cigarettes I got a revolver and ...): https://www.vluki.ru/news/2002/04/12/03035.html
  • NF68
    NF68 5 December 2020 19: 39
    0
    Maybe these Ukrainians specifically wanted to surrender? In captivity, feeding is not bad. And calm. Nobody makes you jump.