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French politician: France has nothing to do in NATO

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French politician: France has nothing to do in NATO

French politician, leader of the "Unconquered France" party Jean-Luc Melanchon said that France has no place in NATO, Russia is a reliable partner, and the United States has never been. As Nina Dyulgerova writes in an article for the Bulgarian newspaper Trud, Melanchon raised issues that are on the agenda not only in Paris.


According to the French politician, France has nothing else to do in NATO. The author of the article agrees with him, claiming that over 70 years the North Atlantic Alliance has exhausted itself and can no longer be the guarantor of Europe's security. An example of this is the behavior of Turkey, which ignores and violates the basic rules of conduct of the organization.

As a way out of the situation, one can accept the proposal of French President Macron, who has already proposed several times to create a European army with its own budget, independent of NATO.

The restoration of full membership of Paris in the North Atlantic Treaty Organization at the end of the first decade of the 70st century is clearly no longer relevant, an organization with a XNUMX-year-old history exhausted itself. All these conclusions are close to the familiar phrase uttered by a child in a famous fairy tale: "And the king is naked!"

- the author writes.

In addition, the French politician called Russia a reliable partner, which sounds like heresy, Dyulgerova notes. However, such a statement is well explainable. The point is that for several centuries the European vector of Moscow has invariably been directed through Berlin to Paris, the countries have centuries-old ties.

At the same time, Melanchon "dared" to compare Russia and the United States, accusing the Americans of being unreliable.

The categoricalness with which the United States is accused of using rather than defending its European partners and their interests is impressive. (...) Melanchon's conclusion is also sad, saying that the United States does what it wants, regardless of anyone.

- the author of the article writes.

Summing up his reflections, the author declares that the world has gone astray, and modern problems cannot be assessed and solved using the old methods.

Earlier, French President Emmanuel Macron said about the "death of the brain of NATO."
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  1. Pessimist22
    Pessimist22 4 December 2020 09: 28
    +12
    Adequate even in France remained.
    1. Svetlana
      Svetlana 4 December 2020 09: 34
      -5
      Yes, his words are sweet to us Russians, but from the point of view of the majority of French politicians, he is never adequate, as you put it.
      ..
      Look at your leisure who he represents and how many seats his party holds in parliament.
      1. Thrall
        Thrall 4 December 2020 09: 41
        +13
        Norm man
        1. Alex777
          Alex777 4 December 2020 18: 51
          0
          Norm man

          Yes, we can say our man. good

          As a way out of the situation, one can accept the proposal of French President Macron, who has already proposed several times to create a European army with its own budget, independent of NATO.

          It is because of these proposals that Macron's yellow vests have been working for many years. In order not to forget who is the boss in the house and life does not seem like honey.
          1. Vladimir Mashkov
            Vladimir Mashkov 4 December 2020 19: 08
            +1
            Jean-Luc is right when he talks about NATO, and about Russia, and about the United States! good
      2. Lionnvrsk
        Lionnvrsk 4 December 2020 09: 46
        +5
        Quote: Svetlana
        Yes, his words are sweet to us Russians, but from the point of view of the majority of French politicians, he is never adequate, as you put it.

        So these are the politicians! They don't call de Gaulle inadequate! hi
        1. Bolt cutter
          Bolt cutter 4 December 2020 12: 05
          +2
          They don't call de Gaulle inadequate.
          He opened the borders of France (almost all of Europe) for North Africans. Therefore, some also call it.
      3. Sergej1972
        Sergej1972 4 December 2020 13: 09
        +1
        Considering that in this country, at the central level, there is not a proportional election system, but a majoritarian election system in single-mandate constituencies in two rounds, it is better to look at what percentage of voters voted for this political force. The percentage of voters and the percentage of seats in parliament can vary greatly. The winner's representation is greatly overestimated, the rest is greatly underestimated.
    2. Svarog
      Svarog 4 December 2020 09: 38
      +11
      Quote: Pessimist22
      Adequate even in France remained.

      There have always been adequate in Europe, but there is no sense in them. The United States rules through those who have real power.
    3. Senka naughty
      Senka naughty 4 December 2020 09: 51
      -7
      Quote: Pessimist22
      Adequate even in France remained.

      Rats are fleeing from a sinking ship, blowing a grandiose nix.
    4. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 4 December 2020 09: 53
      0
      Quote: Pessimist22

      +1
      Adequate even in France remained.

      The same cannot be said about Bulgaria. The little brothers have their noses turned over the ocean.
    5. Lynx2000
      Lynx2000 4 December 2020 15: 05
      +1
      Quote: Pessimist22
      Adequate even in France remained.

      There are less and less of them. Here Giscard d'Etienne was gone, and how they tried to impute him harassment at 90 years old. I do not condemn, but envy!
      And Jean-Luc Melanchon is not D'Goll.
    6. Alex Nevs
      Alex Nevs 5 December 2020 19: 18
      0
      Well no. It's just that they don't want to pay grandmothers somewhere. They are just beginning to realize that, "They are dancing in the blind," and not even using protection.
  2. Thrall
    Thrall 4 December 2020 09: 29
    +20
    Well I do not know. For example, I am simply afraid of NATO smile

    1. K-612-O
      K-612-O 4 December 2020 09: 46
      +12
      They are really scary, you can't dismiss cowards belay
      And why were the dock workers dressed in skirts? what
    2. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 4 December 2020 09: 54
      +11
      Quote: Thrall
      Well I do not know. For example, I am simply afraid of NATO

      Seeing this, I'm afraid too.
    3. Petrik66
      Petrik66 4 December 2020 10: 31
      +2
      Excuse me, but in a light form - who is this? Is it a woman or a shaved Scotsman, or one of the fairytale characters? I had such a telephone operator at the headquarters, the wife of a senior warrant officer.
    4. Alex Nevs
      Alex Nevs 5 December 2020 19: 19
      0
      Why scare you like that? I can't sleep now.
    5. wave
      wave 3 January 2021 19: 24
      0
      And these are women ??? What horror) I sympathize with men)))
  3. silberwolf88
    silberwolf88 4 December 2020 09: 29
    +3
    return to Gaullism ... maybe this is the right way of France outside the blocks))
  4. Proton
    Proton 4 December 2020 09: 29
    +5
    This party has less than 3% of the seats in the French national assembly. Who does this party represent and how weighty are the statements of its leader?
    1. K-612-O
      K-612-O 4 December 2020 09: 37
      0
      Socialists close to communism. 4th party in the country.
    2. The comment was deleted.
    3. Sergej1972
      Sergej1972 4 December 2020 13: 13
      0
      See the percentage of those who voted for it. And 11% of voters who came to the polls voted for them. At the same time, read my comment above about the peculiarities of the French electoral system.
  5. halpat
    halpat 4 December 2020 09: 29
    0
    Correctly! There is nothing for real Europeans to do there!
    There are only unfinished, unable to defend themselves, yes sultanko, grovel in front of Uncle Sam.
  6. evgen1221
    evgen1221 4 December 2020 09: 32
    +1
    How many votes does this politician have in the French parliament, and how many circulation does this newspaper have? And how many deputies and which ones listened to this speech? The words are certainly correct, only it looks like a voice into the void. Well, to create the appearance of democracy, it works, you see, we also have other opinions, but the fact that no one will physically perceive them is behind the scenes. Democracy it is!
    1. Sergej1972
      Sergej1972 4 December 2020 13: 15
      +1
      Do you understand the difference between proportional and majoritarian electoral systems? 11% of voters voted for this party, but it received only 3% of seats in parliament due to the peculiarities of the electoral system in France.
      1. evgen1221
        evgen1221 4 December 2020 14: 26
        0
        I understand that no one will hear him and will not take into account his words. And what kind of system is it already do not care.
  7. Baloo
    Baloo 4 December 2020 09: 35
    +1
    Europe and the whole world have only one enemy - the USA angry
  8. Tank hard
    Tank hard 4 December 2020 09: 38
    +1
    In the Russian Federation, there are parties that do not agree with United Russia, but they do not even want to register them. What is the point of the opinion of the individual, which does not mean anything in the real political life of France?
  9. Reviews
    Reviews 4 December 2020 09: 39
    +2
    Clever Monsieur de Gaulle did not speak, but did - he simply brought the country out of NATO more than half a century ago and that's it. And there was no need to return.
    1. Sergej1972
      Sergej1972 4 December 2020 13: 16
      +1
      He withdrew France from the NATO military organization, but left it in the political one.
  10. Egoza
    Egoza 4 December 2020 09: 49
    +1
    Correctly! It's time to destroy NATO. Lit up in this world
  11. Cowbra
    Cowbra 4 December 2020 09: 49
    0
    In vain he is so. There are so many interesting things France can do in NATO. For example, give 2% of the budget to the United States so that the United States declares that it will not fight for Europe, as it has already said about Triboltika ... You can get under sanctions from the United States and lose the Ekrbas-Iran contract for 15 billion ... In the end you can to die to your heart's content on the CIA poppy plantations in Afghanistan, remember, paddling pool, with your corpse you help carry
    drugs to the masses
    democracy! winked
  12. Doccor18
    Doccor18 4 December 2020 09: 49
    +3
    Melanchon needs resonance. I really need ...
    And NATO will be exactly as long as the US wants. And no one really cares about the opinions of younger European colleagues overseas.
  13. withoutreverse
    withoutreverse 4 December 2020 09: 55
    +8
    De Gaulle realized this 50 years ago ..
  14. zwlad
    zwlad 4 December 2020 10: 27
    0
    It is gradually beginning to realize that the cowboys are using them (Europe) stupidly, representing Russia as an enemy.
  15. Petrik66
    Petrik66 4 December 2020 10: 28
    +3
    Jean-Luc Mélenchon is a left-wing French statesman and politician, journalist. French Delegate Minister for Vocational Education in the government of Lionel Jospin from 2000 to 2002. Member of the French Senate from the Eson department. Member of the European Parliament from 2009 to 2017 - that is, NOBODY. Well, some Ilarionov or Khazin will perform with us, so what? He is not a competitor. Anyone who gets into the government, or even though it’s a serious faction of the European Parliament, immediately begins to broadcast about the terrible Russia. Why even talk about itinerant chatterboxes who have no real weight in politics from the word AT ALL.
    1. Sergej1972
      Sergej1972 4 December 2020 13: 17
      +1
      He is actually the leader of a political force that took fourth place in terms of votes in the last parliamentary elections.
    2. Boa kaa
      Boa kaa 4 December 2020 13: 57
      0
      Quote: Petrik66
      Why even talk about itinerant talkers with no real weight in politics

      1. This is spoken by a Frenchman, not a Russian, who a priori is not believed in advance, immediately and forever.
      2. We would never have been provided with the podium on which this speaker climbed.
      3. Thoughts about leaving NATy are swarming not only in the head of macaroni, but also in someone else. And this is already fertile ground for the expansion of the crack. Turkey, France ... who's next?
  16. 9PA
    9PA 4 December 2020 10: 33
    -1
    Peremoga of Putin? No wonder he saved Erdogan all the same
  17. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 4 December 2020 10: 38
    +1
    France has no place in NATO, Russia is a reliable partner, and the United States has never been
    If there were more sober-minded politicians in Europe, you look and the world would become closer.
  18. shinobi
    shinobi 4 December 2020 10: 43
    0
    A lonely voice in the desert!
  19. A. Privalov
    A. Privalov 4 December 2020 11: 04
    -2
    France already left NATO in 1966, returned in 2009, and now can leave again. Here, the main thing is movement. The rest is nonsense. hi
    1. Sergej1972
      Sergej1972 4 December 2020 13: 18
      +1
      It didn't come out completely. She left only the military organization, but remained in the political one.
  20. Knell wardenheart
    Knell wardenheart 4 December 2020 13: 10
    +1
    The newspaper Trud seems to allude to the socialist position of the publication, the political orientation of the politician is not indicated - in other words, all this is a poorly veiled attempt to pass off the private opinion of a representative of micro-opposition currents as some kind of emerging trend. There is no need to feel illusions - France will sit in NATO like a glove until Germany decides to do the opposite - and Germany has no time for such large-scale perturbations.
  21. Sergej1972
    Sergej1972 4 December 2020 13: 29
    +1
    In the first round, Vperyod Respublika and Democratic Movement candidates together received 32,3% of the vote. But according to the results of two rounds, they together have 348 mandates out of 577 (60,3%). Such a huge bias is a consequence of the majority system. Moreover, there is a “fabricated majority” effect, when a party or coalition supported by less than half of the voters gets more than half of the seats in parliament. This effect is typical of the French elections. https://www.golosinfo.org/articles/142055
  22. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 4 December 2020 14: 15
    0
    for the most part, they are narrow-minded people. There are reasons for that.

    They are embedded in the historical processes that contributed to this: from the Inquisition, when during the "witch hunt", history and continuity among the people were destroyed. There are only a few who are trying not to sink to the level of the plinth and form a normal healthy society. But the forces are clearly not equal.
  23. Scharnhorst
    Scharnhorst 4 December 2020 15: 21
    0
    This Melanchon will be planted with a black cleaning woman this week and his political career will be closed. Fortunately, black-ass girls with reduced social responsibility in France are already like on the streets of the Maghreb ... Ugh !!! ... I'll go rinse my mouth out.
  24. Andrey Krasnoyarsky
    Andrey Krasnoyarsky 4 December 2020 15: 36
    +1
    It is a pity that people like Melanchon are in the minority in France. And the majority (at least in the political sphere) are exemplary [American] slaves, Jacques are faithful (to paraphrase NA Nekrasov).
  25. Antokha
    Antokha 4 December 2020 16: 30
    0
    It was also necessary to say that NATO has never been relevant, since was created exclusively to fight against Russia (USSR). There was no one to defend Europe from. Nobody was going to attack her.
  26. StroiaBat
    StroiaBat 4 December 2020 17: 22
    -1
    Something lately, politicians with adequate thinking appear more and more often in the West.
    It is not in vain that Russia is fighting for truth and justice in world politics ..
    We do not go to war, we drank blood for the most I do not want .. Enough already wars and confrontations!
    Let's live in a friendly and equal way, but not as you suggested to us in the late 80s and 90s ...
    USA "aspen's nest" .. this is the main problem in the world!
  27. Vdi73
    Vdi73 7 December 2020 06: 33
    0
    Who is Nina Dyulgerova? Another excrement of the "great power" of Bulgaria, which is always rushing to someone's feet, is profitable to fall and kiss the boots. Okay, the French politician said something there, although he is very "shallow" but voiced the opinion of the Bulgarian, no one knows who, just transfer paper and spend traffic.
  28. Vdi73
    Vdi73 25 December 2020 06: 38
    0
    The opinion of Bulgarians is respected all over the world, everyone is interested in the opinion of Nina Dyulgerova from the Bulgarian newspaper "Trud", although most of the world's population, this insignificant state will not even be found on the map right away.