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"We are Russians, and therefore we will win"

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"We are Russians, and therefore we will win"
Rescue of General-in-Chief A. V. Suvorov by grenadier Stepan Novikov in the battle of Kinburn on October 1, 1787.


“Despite numerous wounds, he looks cheerful and youthful. Due to the severity of life, diseases are unknown to him. He never takes internal medications. She sleeps in the hay, hiding behind a sheet, and when it's cold, with a cloak ... She gets up before dawn. ... After getting up, he dips himself from head to toe with cold water and runs through the rooms or the garden in his underwear and boots, learning Turkish from a notebook. "


This is how the Austrian artist and military historian Anting, who was the secretary and adjutant of our great field marshal, and his first biographer, wrote about the great Russian commander Alexander Vasilyevich Suvorov. is he

“… Does not look in the mirror, does not carry watches and money with him. By nature, he is known as an honest, affectionate, courteous man, firm in enterprises, keeping his promises even against the enemy himself. This hero cannot be bribed with anything. He tries in every possible way to moderate his temper. His ardor and speed are so great that his subordinates cannot do anything as quickly as he would like. Love for the Fatherland and jealousy to fight for its glory serve as the strongest motives for his tireless activity, and he sacrifices all other feelings to it, sparing neither his health nor his life. "

Suvorov was a supporter of a healthy lifestyle. In "Science to Win" he gave the soldiers the basic principles of spiritual and physical health: cleanliness, neatness, good spirits and piety. He knew about the great power of hunger (as taught by wise teachers from ancient times and Jesus).

"Hunger is the best medicine."

He noted the importance of cleansing the stomach in case of obstruction (enema), fasting in case of illness, as well as the danger of "rotten" and "harmful" German medicines.

Pugachev and Suvorov


After the end of the war with Turkey, Alexander Suvorov was appointed to command a division in Moscow. At this time, he has a powerful patron - Grigory Potemkin. An important appointment awaited Suvorov. The uprising of the Yaik Cossacks grew into a peasant war and quickly engulfed the Orenburg region, the Urals, the Kama region, Bashkiria and the Volga region. Pugachev was beaten in all battles, he was pursued, but he was quickly gaining new strength. In St. Petersburg they feared that the uprising would cover the central provinces. Taking advantage of the end of the war with Porte, Catherine II sent additional forces led by General-in-Chief P. Panin to suppress the uprising. The count asked Suvorov to be his assistants, who had already become famous for his quick and decisive actions in battles with the Poles and Turks.

Suvorov quickly rushed to the Volga. But Pugachev was already defeated by Mikhelson at Tsaritsyn, and fled across the Volga. With a small detachment, Alexander Vasilyevich set off in pursuit. In the meantime, Pugachev was arrested and extradited by his associates. For two weeks (end of September - October 1774) Alexander Vasilievich escorted Pugachev from Uralsk to Simbirsk. On the way, they talked a lot. Unfortunately, information about the conversations of two great people of this era has not reached us. So, Alexander Pushkin (who was not only a great poet, but also a historian who described the course of the Pugachev uprising and was admitted to the imperial archives on the personal instruction of Nicholas I) did not find them.

Alexander Pushkin in his "Stories"Noted:

“Pugachev was sitting in a wooden cage on a two-wheeled cart. A strong detachment, with two guns, surrounded him. Suvorov did not leave him. In the village of Mostakh (one hundred and forty versts from Samara), a fire broke out near the hut where Pugachev spent the night. They let him out of the cage, tied him to a cart along with his son, a playful and courageous boy, and all night Suvorov himself watched them.

Then Alexander Suvorov was entrusted with the command of the troops located on the Volga. It can be noted that Panin and Suvorov were able to identify and solve many of the problems that caused a large-scale uprising. The rationalist Suvorov did not approve of the mass executions of the rebels, this led to the ruin of the state, the strength and wealth of which were people (peasants). Terror only embittered people, led to new riots.

In areas affected by the uprising, famine soon began, as the fields were not sown. Therefore, Panin and Suvorov paid great attention to the restoration of ruined provinces, put things in order in the management system. Provision shops were organized for the population. The speculators were declared marauders and fought against them according to the laws of war. Thus, Alexander Vasilyevich showed himself as a capable manager-administrator. Later, already on the southern borders of the empire, he will again demonstrate the talents of a civil dignitary.


Suvorov and Pugachev. From a painting by V. Bobylkov.

Protection and arrangement of the southern borders


At the triumph of victory over Turkey, Alexander Vasilyevich was awarded a sword with diamonds. In 1775 he received a vacation associated with two news from Moscow: the first - joyful, he had a daughter named Natalia (his father adored Suvorochka); the second - sad, father died. He received a year's leave and arrived in Moscow. At that time, Empress Catherine was also in the old capital. She affectionately greeted her "little general" and offered the command of the Petersburg division.

This required moving to the capital. The post was very honorable and promoted a quick career (constantly in front of the queen's eyes). After the commander of the guards, the head of the St. Petersburg division was in the military environment of the empress the closest person to her. However, Alexander Suvorov refused the honorary post, which caused another conflict with his wife, who had already "soured" in Moscow and wanted to get into the capital's light. Suvorov, on the contrary, did not want to be a "parquet" general. He wanted to be where it is "hot" and military operations are possible.

In 1776 Potemkin was appointed governor-general, then governor-general of the Astrakhan, Azov and Novorossiysk provinces. He had to put things in order with the Cossack troops, pacify the nomads and ensure the safety of the entire southern border from attempts by the Ottoman Empire. For this, it was necessary first of all to solve the problem of the Crimean Khanate.

Crimea, having gained independence from the Port in 1774, was torn between Russia and Turkey. There was a struggle between pro-Russian and pro-Turkish parties. Suvorov entered Potemkin's order. The regiments of the Moscow division of Suvorov were part of the corps of Prince Prozorovsky. In the Crimea, Suvorov, due to the illness of Alexander Prozorovsky, temporarily led the corps. In 1777, the general promoted the election of the pro-Russian Crimean Khan Shahin-Girey. The new khan, with the support of the Russians and the Nogais, occupied the Crimea. The pro-Turkish protege Devlet-Girey fled to Turkey.

After the normalization of the situation in Crimea, Suvorov received a vacation and went to his family in Poltava. At the end of 1777, he received a small Kuban corps under the command. In a short time, he improved the Kuban line: a combination of stationary garrisons with mobile reserves, ready at any time to provide assistance to any outpost on the line. He also organized reconnaissance and was aware of the mood among the Nogai and highlanders. Displaying the art of a diplomat and decisive commander, he made local nomads and mountaineers respect Russia.

In the spring of 1778 he was again sent to Crimea, where the threat of an uprising and Turkish invasion sharply increased. At the same time, he was left by the commander of the Kuban corps. Shahin-Girey tried to carry out reforms in the khanate and establish governance on the Russian model, which caused the discontent of the clergy and nobility. The Crimean Tatar elite wanted to return to the rule of the Port. Turkish agents were active on the peninsula.

In the summer and autumn of 1778, in order to avoid the massacre of the Christian population, Alexander Suvorov organized the resettlement of the Crimean Greeks and Armenians to the Azov province. The headquarters of the lieutenant general was located in Gozlev (Evpatoria). At this time, the threat of an epidemic arose. However, thanks to the strict and well-organized measures of Suvorov, the plague was avoided.

The military cleared all the toilets and stables, repaired the city's water sources, organized free bathing in the baths, established military order in the eastern markets, introduced a quarantine for imported goods, and forced residents to restore order in their homes and yards. The general even complained that he forced the locals to wash regularly, regardless of faith.


A bust of A. V. Suvorov at the site of his headquarters in Gozlev (now Evpatoria).

Suppression of the Nogai uprising


Turkey planned to land troops in the Crimea in 1778 to support a local uprising with the aim of overthrowing Shahin-Giray. The landing was planned to be landed in Akhtiarskaya Bay (future Sevastopol). However, Suvorov organized the defense of the coast. And the Ottoman fleet, which approached the Crimean shores, did not dare to land troops.

In 1779, due to the stabilization of the situation on the peninsula, some of the troops were withdrawn. Suvorov was appointed commander of the Little Russian division, then transferred to the Novorossiysk province, head of the border forces. In 1780, Suvorov in Astrakhan, where in connection with the threat of war with Persia, was preparing a campaign against the Persians. In 1782, an uprising began in the Crimea and the Kuban. The Persian campaign was postponed, Suvorov was again sent to the Kuban.

The Nogai hordes at that time were vassals of the Crimean Khanate. They periodically rebelled against the policies of Shagin-Girey and Russia. In the spring of 1783, Empress Catherine II issued a manifesto, according to which Crimea, Taman and Kuban were declared Russian possessions. Part of the Nogai hordes decided to migrate beyond the river. Kuban, do not accept Russian citizenship.

In the summer of 1783, Suvorov tried to convince the Nogai nobility to swear allegiance to Petersburg. At the same time, preparations were under way for the resettlement of the Nogais beyond the Urals, near Tambov and Saratov. Part of the Nogai Murzas took the oath, resettlement began. Others revolted. In August the uprising was suppressed, the implacable fled for the Kuban.

In October, the Kuban corps under the command of Suvorov (the whole corps consisted of about 8 thousand Cossacks and 2 thousand Kalmyks) secretly forced the Kuban and completely defeated the rebellious Nogai in the Kermenchik tract on the Laba River. According to some reports, several thousand nomads and their leaders were killed.

After that, most of the Murzas bowed to Suvorov and recognized the annexation of Crimea and Kuban to Russia. At the end of 1783, the Russian general completed the rout of the remaining rebels. The Russian government decided not to resettle the Nogais beyond the Urals. Some of the nomads were resettled to the Caspian Sea, some to the Azov Sea. Another part of the Nogai, who did not obey the Russian authorities, fled to the foothills of the North Caucasus.


Nogays in the North Caucasus in the XNUMXth century.

General-in-chief


For his successes on the southern borders of the empire, Alexander Suvorov was awarded the Order of St. Vladimir 1st degree. In 1784 he commanded the Vladimir division, in 1785 - the Petersburg division. In 1785, the general turned 55. In 1786, in the order of seniority, he received the rank of general-in-chief, that is, he became a full general. Under Peter the Great, general-in-chief meant the rank of commander-in-chief.

Under Catherine II, according to the new military regulations, the highest military rank was Field Marshal. Suvorov could receive this rank only in war. But there was no war. Looking back at the last 12 years of peaceful life, the commander felt uneasy. Everything he did seemed insignificant to him. And the childhood dream of a great deed did not go out.

"My life is for Natasha, my death is for the Fatherland",

- wrote Alexander Vasilievich.

Meanwhile, a new war with Turkey was on the doorstep. Istanbul did not want to come to terms with the loss of Crimea and other lands in the Black Sea region. The war was inevitable. Petersburg understood this and prepared for it.

The Russians had to secure the Northern Black Sea region for themselves. Give the enemy a good lesson to be remembered for a long time. At this time, the powerful governor of New Russia, Potemkin, arranged for the empress a "walk" - a solemn journey to the lands newly acquired by Russia.

The great nobleman made great efforts to develop the previously "wild" lands. It was laid on the deserted bank of the Dnieper by Yekaterinoslav, near the village of Akhtiar - Sevastopol, at the mouth of the Ingula - Nikolaev, the future largest verv of the southern part of Russia. The Black Sea Fleet is being built with furious speed. Kherson was founded near the Dnieper estuary - a fortress, port and shipyard, which became the first base of the Black Sea fleet... Potemkin develops industry and agriculture, cultivates and plants forests, orchards and vineyards in the Black Sea steppes.

Potemkin wanted to show the foreign guests of Russia that the Russian state was stronger than ever. I am ready to defend myself and stand firmly on the Black Sea. Suvorov at that time commanded the Kremenchug division. He had to show the tsarina the exemplary regiments of an ordinary army division in a short time.

In 1787, Catherine, surrounded by a brilliant retinue, made her trip. She was accompanied by the Austrian emperor Joseph II, the Polish king Stanislaw August and many other noble foreigners, including the ambassadors of France and England. In Kremenchug Potemkin offered to look at the maneuvers of the Suvorov division. Suvorov showed his already famous end-to-end attacks: infantry against infantry, cavalry against infantry, infantry against cavalry, formation in battle formations, loose formation, columns, feigned retreat to lure the enemy and pursuit. Also fencing, fighting with rifles with bayonets, sabers and pikes. The brilliant view stunned the guests.

Catherine wrote to her correspondent Grimm in Paris:

"We have found fifteen thousand of the finest troops you can find in camp here."

From Kremenchug Suvorov followed to Kherson in the retinue of the queen. Catherine showered him with signs of attention. The Austrian Emperor Joseph honored the conversation. On the Sevastopol roadstead, foreigners were amazed at the sight of the new Russian fleet - the Black Sea.

On the way back, the Russian queen wished to take another look at the Suvorov regiments. This time the troops were stationed on the glorious Poltava field. A tent was set up for the guests on the top of the Swedish Mogila mound. The maneuvers reproduced the Battle of Poltava. On the Russian side of the battle, Major General Mikhail Kutuzov commanded.

The second show was just as brilliant as the first. Catherine proclaimed Potemkin the Most Serene Prince of Tauride.

"And I," Suvorov wrote to his daughter, "got a gold snuffbox for the walk."
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  1. Lech from Android.
    Lech from Android. 5 December 2020 06: 50
    +14
    Alexander Vasilyevich is like a precious diamond ... in the one and only number was at that time for Russia ... such talents in military affairs only occur once in a hundred years.
    Thanks to Alexander for the article about him.
    1. Alexander Suvorov
      Alexander Suvorov 5 December 2020 09: 50
      +29
      Lech from Android. (Lech from Android)
      such talents in military affairs only happen once in a hundred years.
      There are no more people like Suvorov in history! But people like Napoleon, perhaps yes, once in a hundred years.
      1. BAI
        BAI 5 December 2020 18: 33
        +9
        But people like Napoleon, perhaps, once in a hundred years.

        There were 3 Napoleons. And Suvorov is forever alone.
    2. Mountain shooter
      Mountain shooter 5 December 2020 16: 18
      +6
      Quote: Lech from Android.
      Alexander Vasilievich is like a precious diamond ... he was in a singular and inimitable number at that time for Russia ... such talents in military affairs occur only once in a hundred years

      He certainly stands out from the crowd. But after all, he started with Rumyantsev ... and his victories over the Turks were glorious and important ... Suvorov alone, with all his genius, could not have manifested himself like this if it were not for the officer corps and the soldiers of the Russian army.
      1. Doctor
        Doctor 5 December 2020 20: 41
        +4
        He certainly stands out from the crowd. But after all, he started with Rumyantsev ... and his victories over the Turks were glorious and important ... Suvorov alone, with all his genius, could not have manifested himself like this if it were not for the officer corps and the soldiers of the Russian army.

        No, that's it.
        It happened more than once that the appearance of Suvorov decided the outcome. Neither Repnin, nor Gudovich, nor Potemkin could take the same Ishmael. And the soldiers and officers are the same.

        Replay Borodino with the same army, but with Suvorov instead of Kutuzov. Do you think he would have stood and waited for Napoleon?
        And in general, with his mere appearance, the Russian army itself, without any command, would immediately stop the retreat.
        And then, after a short regrouping, it gave a general battle.
        Anywhere and in an attacking style. With a predictable outcome for the French, in spite of any Napoleons.
        1. Machito
          Machito 6 December 2020 04: 49
          +4
          Napoleon was very lucky that he did not meet Suvorov on his way. This meeting would have dispelled the glory of the French Emperor like smoke.
      2. Ross xnumx
        Ross xnumx 6 December 2020 15: 08
        +2
        Quote: Mountain Shooter
        Suvorov alone, with all his genius, would not have been able to manifest himself like this if it had not been for the officer corps and the soldiers of the Russian army.

        I agree. Only the commander must be such that the soldiers and officers follow him. And here Suvorov has no equal.
  2. Doccor18
    Doccor18 5 December 2020 07: 45
    +11
    Brilliant people are brilliant in everything.
    "It is a pity for imitation, commendable competition. Imitation is an acknowledgment of the lack of one's own abilities. Competition is an impulse of a noble soul that wants to show an advantage that is challenged by it." A.V. Suvorov.
    And he knew how to beat the enemy and speak words, but how ... try, as they say, say better ...
  3. Olgovich
    Olgovich 5 December 2020 08: 25
    -1
    governor New Russia Potemkin arranged a "walk" for the Empress - a solemn journey to the newly acquired Russia lands.

    The great nobleman made great efforts to develop the previously "wild" lands. Laid down on the deserted bank of the Dnieper Ekaterinoslav, near the village of Akhtiar - Sevastopol, at the mouth of the Ingul - Николаев, the future largest rope in the southern part of Russia. The Black Sea Fleet is being built with furious speed. Established near the Dnieper estuary Kherson - fortress, port and rope,

    And he did it for Russia and in Russia.

    What scoundrels were those who betrayed this selfless more than a century labor of the Russian people and handed it all over to the "Ukrainians" for Ukrainization and anti-Russia.

    Monuments of Novorossiya to the great people of Russia - the builders of Novorossiya Ekaterina, Potemkin were demolished by them in order to burn out the memory of Russia there. Potemkin's grave was repeatedly opened. In the 1930s. at one time Potemkin's skull was exhibited as an exhibit in an anti-religious museum; then returned to the crypt.
    1. Blacksmith 55
      Blacksmith 55 5 December 2020 09: 52
      +13
      Olgovich, I don't know about the skull there, but the fact that the cities founded and watered with Russian blood suddenly ended up in another state, it's hard to understand.
      1. Blacksmith 55
        Blacksmith 55 5 December 2020 19: 16
        +4
        I want to add .
        At school, they did not tell us about the feat of Stepan Novikov, or I forgot it over the years.
        In the article, the author did not mention it. Only the picture indicates that. For this feat, and for the battle, he was awarded a silver medal. Only 20 lower ranks were awarded, Novikov was the first.
        I looked on the net.
        And articles about Suvorov are a big plus.
    2. Alexander Suvorov
      Alexander Suvorov 5 December 2020 09: 57
      +33
      Mr. not respected Olgovich, you don't have to stigmatize the Bolsheviks everywhere and in any topic. The fact that Ukrainization took place in Ukraine is far from the Bolsheviks' fault. The servile essence of these territories originated long before the Bolsheviks came to power. The venality of the skakuas was always, they were always sold to everyone, or do you think Mazepa was also an underground Bolshevik? laughing But what is Mazepa, the same Khmelnitsky almost immediately after the Pereyaslav Rada already began to look for new owners.

      So there is no need to put an owl on the globe and ascribe to the Bolsheviks something they had nothing to do with at all.
      1. Olgovich
        Olgovich 5 December 2020 10: 57
        -5
        Quote: Alexander Suvorov
        The fact that Ukrainization took place in Ukraine is far from the Bolsheviks' fault. The servile essence of these territories originated long before the Bolsheviks came to power.

        Comrade Macedonian, BEFORE the arrival of Russians, New Russia is absolutely blank A WILD FIELD, uninhabited by anyone.

        So no "servile essence" could have arisen, because there were no people there.
        And who did this:
        1923, 7 magazines were published in Donbass, 5 of which were in Russian, and 2 were in Russian and Ukrainian. Of the 9 newspapers, 8 were published in Russian, one was bilingual. In 1924, in Starobelsk, the newspaper Donetsk Plowman began to be published in Ukrainian. And then the total closure of the Russian-language press began, despite the resistance of local editorial offices and, most importantly, readers!
        By April 1934, out of 36 local newspapers in the Donetsk region, 23 were completely Ukrainian-language, 8 were 2/3 Ukrainian-language,. There are only two Russian newspapers left.

        In 1921, in Donetsk province, there were as many as 5 Ukrainian schools (with 2250 Russians) .. As of December 1, 1932, out of 2239 schools in Donbass, 1760 (78,6%) were Ukrainian, and another 207 (9,3%) were Ukrainian. Russianand. Russian-language education in the region was destroyed and prohibited.

        In January 1934, at the 2nd Donetsk regional party conference, the chairman of the regional trade union Maslenko (apparently, the one who is Pavel Fedorovich) said that in the region “no less 40 thousand children were forcibly Ukrainianized».
        ?
        Only invaders.

        In full accordance with the instructions of a certain Ulyanov:
        It's not about Russia, on her, good gentlemen, I do not care, - this is only the stage through which we pass to the world revolution ... "

        PS you could KNOW such things!
        1. Hantengri
          Hantengri 5 December 2020 21: 10
          +3
          Quote: Olgovich
          "It's not about Russia, it's not about Russia, good gentlemen, I DON'T CARE, - this is only the stage through which we are going to the world revolution ..."

          Olgovich, in our difficult time, when you can't trust anyone ... (I can! laughing ), it would be nice, when citing a quote from VIL, to indicate the title of the work, as well as the volume of the MSS and the page. Then you would not have to disgrace yourself by bringing a fake compilation, which has long been disassembled to pieces.
        2. Revolver
          Revolver 6 December 2020 10: 00
          +2
          Quote: Olgovich
          By April 1934, out of 36 local newspapers in the Donetsk region, 23 were completely Ukrainian-language, 8 were 2/3 Ukrainian-language,. There are only two Russian newspapers left.

          Well, the local rags were generally insignificant. All those who wanted to read serious all-Union and world news subscribed to Pravda or Izvestia, and the local newspapers were mainly about the workers of the village of Malaya Zakhlyupanka and the great football victories of the team of the Myxocranky hardware factory.
    3. BAI
      BAI 5 December 2020 18: 55
      +4
      Monuments of Novorossiya to the great people of Russia - the builders of Novorossiya Ekaterina, Potemkin were demolished by them in order to burn out the memory of Russia there.

      Well, how much nonsense can you carry.
      Let's see why this happened.
      The graves of Nakhimov, Bagration and others were destroyed. Why?
      1. The good tsar-father fostered such hatred of the tsarist regime that ordinary people destroyed everything that personified tsarism. Officer - destroy !. Nobleman - destroy! This is about the popular love for the tsar-father and his regime.
      2. Why were the graves of the heroes of the Fatherland destroyed? And the peasants and ordinary people "educated" thanks to the tsarist education did not know these people. They could read the Psalter. And they did not know who Suvorov, Bagration, Nakhimov were. For them they were the same nobles and officers as Saltychikha or Strashinsky (there is also Otto Gustav Douglas, although he is a Finn, but general-in-chief), etc. Therefore, they could not distinguish the heroes (who were in the minority) from the sadists, who were in the majority.
      3.
      In the 1930s. at one time Potemkin's skull was exhibited as an exhibit in an anti-religious museum; then returned to the crypt.

      The tsar set such a trend of hatred for tsarism in general and for the nobles in particular that opposing him was tantamount to suicide.
      As it is now - Russophobia in the West.
      It is appropriate to recall the epic with the skull of Sergius of Radonezh.
      1. Olgovich
        Olgovich 5 December 2020 23: 37
        -4
        Quote: BAI
        Well, how much nonsense can you carry.

        So don't carry it.
        Quote: BAI
        Let's see why this happened.
        The graves of Nakhimov, Bagration and others were destroyed. Why?
        1. The good tsar-father fostered such hatred of the tsarist regime that ordinary people destroyed everything that personified tsarism.


        Let's: WHAT are you talking about ?! belay It.... simple people blew up the grave of Bagration, the main monuments of OV 1812, the Sukharev Tower, the Column of Glory (what do they, by the way, have to do with tsarism? Is this glory to the Fatherland) ?! belay lol These "simpletons" - non-people to ordinary people and people in general had no relationship at all

        Ordinary people, you know, they robbed money for these monuments and celebrated with hundreds of thousands the 100th anniversary of Borodino (according to your version, like a stupid illiterate herd)


        Quote: BAI
        Why were the graves of the heroes of the Fatherland destroyed? And the peasants and ordinary people "educated" thanks to the tsarist education did not know these people.

        they knew and were much more educated than the non-people who ordered to blow up the monuments of Russia in order to snatch the memory of the Russian people and turn them into rootless mankurts
        Quote: BAI
        The tsar set such a trend of hatred for tsarism in general and for the nobles in particular that opposing him was tantamount to suicide.

        Those. The Bolshevik women who blew up the monuments understood that they were committing a crime, but they did it anyway, “fearing” the anger of the people, which would ... tear them apart if not blown up. Cool you about them!

        And yes, WHAT are you talking about, it's just awful ...
  4. parusnik
    parusnik 5 December 2020 08: 40
    +5
    And this is already K. Osipov "Alexander Vasilyevich Suvorov"
  5. Jünger
    Jünger 5 December 2020 09: 34
    -9
    It is surprising that the local communists sing praises to the inveterate reactionary, monarchist and serf-owner Suvorov. A man who deeply revere God and royal power. The commander put such citizens in a cage and handed them over where necessary
    People are truly "without a king in their heads."
    In fact, the genocide of the Nogai is a wonderful thing, but it is unlikely to be appreciated in modern society.
    1. Clear
      Clear 5 December 2020 11: 44
      +3
      Quote: Junger

      In fact, the genocide of the Nogai is a wonderful thing, but it is unlikely to be appreciated in modern society.

      You now, according to the training manual of the Anglo-Saxons, all the activities of Russia refers to genocide.
      And you are not interested in the fact that more than 190 peoples live on the territory of Russia, which include not only the indigenous small and autochthonous peoples of the country.
      1. Jünger
        Jünger 5 December 2020 19: 56
        -8
        And you are not interested in the fact that more than 190 peoples live on the territory of Russia

        I don’t understand, you propose to apply to all of them the methods that Alexander Vasilyevich applied to the Nogai population? Or do these methods not suit you with something?
    2. BAI
      BAI 5 December 2020 19: 01
      +4
      It is surprising that the local communists sing praises to the inveterate reactionary, monarchist and serf-owner Suvorov. A man who deeply revere God and royal power. The commander put such citizens in a cage and handed them over where necessary

      And the fact that Suvorov is an ordinary person, with merits and demerits, but the merits definitely outweigh the demerits, and therefore this person is given due credit, does not come to mind?
      Have you forgotten about the Order of Suvorov?
      1. Jünger
        Jünger 5 December 2020 20: 19
        -11%
        And what do you have to do with him then? This is the main question. Why don't you pay tribute to Karl 12 or Stefan Bathory? Also in bulk.
        Just don’t say that you are Russian because that’s nonsense.
        1. BAI
          BAI 5 December 2020 21: 05
          +5
          you are russian because this is nonsense

          Nonsense for you, not for me. I'm not proud of Obama or Floyd (who is George).
          1. Jünger
            Jünger 5 December 2020 21: 12
            -9
            Quote: BAI
            I'm not proud of Obama or Floyd (who is George).

            You have Dzhugashvili - a Georgian national hero. So be proud. Mekhlis, Rosa Zemlyachka, Bela Kun - these are people with a capital letter. wink
      2. Konstantin Shevchenko
        Konstantin Shevchenko 6 December 2020 08: 29
        +1
        He is not "ordinary", have you read Suvorov's knowledge at least once? Reichsgeneralfeldmarschall. Ranks in Russian, this is a translation.
    3. Doctor
      Doctor 5 December 2020 20: 50
      +2
      It is surprising that the local communists sing praises to the inveterate reactionary, monarchist and serf-owner Suvorov. A man who deeply revere God and royal power. The commander put such citizens in a cage and handed them over where necessary

      It's just that he is so great that even his political opponents admit it. hi
    4. Walking
      Walking 6 December 2020 09: 41
      +2
      The same Nogais, Crimean Tatars until that time brought a lot of grief to Russia by raiding and why in those days they should have been pitied?
    5. Ross xnumx
      Ross xnumx 6 December 2020 15: 25
      +1
      Quote: Junger
      In fact, the genocide of the Nogai is a wonderful thing, but it is unlikely to be appreciated in modern society.

      Genocide?
      In total, up to 7000 Nogai soldiers died in these battles, no more than 1000 surrendered, not counting women and children. As a result, most of the Murzas expressed obedience to Suvorov and finally recognized the annexation of Crimea and the Nogai lands to the Russian Empire.

      Is it genocide that Russia stopped raiding from the south? Or did your Nogais grow grapes and fish?
      Did you have to kiss their butt for organizing the uprising? And those who "were very happy and did not want to fight Hitler" also had to be "understood and forgiven"?
      Yes, the former Russian mercy has been shouted to descendants more than once. Whether it is GB. They tied them to cannons and fired. And they still speak English and look in Anglo-Saxons mouths ...
      This is how it was necessary to act ... And there would be no "bitter memories" of the genocide of seven thousand Nogai and the famine of their neighbors ...
  6. Hagakure
    Hagakure 5 December 2020 09: 35
    +3
    You can read endlessly about Suvorov ... but in general one of the best works about him is "Generalissimo Prince
    Suvorov ", A. Petrushevsky
  7. Clear
    Clear 5 December 2020 11: 48
    +9
    Suvorov showed his already famous end-to-end attacks: infantry against infantry, cavalry against infantry, infantry against cavalry, formation in battle formations, loose formation, columns, feigned retreat to lure the enemy and pursuit. Also fencing, fighting with rifles with bayonets, sabers and pikes. The brilliant view stunned the guests.

    This is what you need to make films about with public funds.
  8. pleschakovai
    pleschakovai 5 December 2020 14: 31
    +5
    The talent, the talent of Alexander Vasilyevich Suvorov for all generations of defenders of the Motherland was, is and will forever be not exhausted, important and unshakable !!! Not like the current Stooltkins, talkers and talkers !!! It is not necessary to list who killed the Soviet Army ??? But the tribunal cries for them and is very necessary !!!
  9. Doliva63
    Doliva63 5 December 2020 18: 31
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    We are Russians? We are Russians. Thanks to Eltsyn. And in the days of the Union over the hill, Uzbeks were called Russians if they were from here.
  10. pyagomail.ru
    pyagomail.ru 5 December 2020 18: 45
    -1
    Everything is fine, but you need to write "Shipyard", not "Verv"
  11. datur
    datur 5 December 2020 22: 30
    +2
    GREAT WAS A GREAT LEADER !!!! AND HE WAS OUR !!! AND IT'S OURS !!!!!!!!
  12. Mikhail3
    Mikhail3 6 December 2020 14: 57
    -2
    And we are "dear Russians", so we are covered.
  13. faterdom
    faterdom 6 December 2020 20: 13
    +1
    I took part in the project "The Name of Russia". 10-15 years ago somewhere.
    Voted for Suvorov, also covered something from his biography.
    I don't remember the place he took then, about 4-5.
    Considering that you could vote as many times as you like, nevertheless Stalin won then, whom the forum leadership moved to second place, behind A. Nevsky.
    But ...
    Stalin, after all, whatever one may say, is not Russian even once, and his contribution is not indisputable, and it was not Russia that he ruled, after all, another state of the USSR.
    Nevsky, I don’t know, is not Russia either - one of the princes, albeit great, and even dependent on the Horde. Yes, probably the most important achievement, which saved the embryo of the Russian state through both the military from the West and diplomatic from the Horde. The Church again ranks among the Saints.
    Although Ushakov was also numbered, and I don't see - why shouldn't Suvorov be numbered, he himself was a very devout man, and he accomplished for Orthodoxy, as few people before him and after him?
    Suvorov made me personally an impeccable symbol of the Russian soldier and commander, citizen and administrator.
    The mere fact that the Poles hate him, these Judas of the Slavic tribes who fell under papism, is already the best characteristic. Napoleonic marshals were jealous. The Turks were simply afraid to horror - meetings are fatal for them in any quantity and combination. Some positive qualities, in my opinion
    1. Jünger
      Jünger 6 December 2020 20: 41
      -4
      Quote: faterdom
      Although Ushakov was also numbered, and I don't see - why shouldn't Suvorov be numbered, he himself was a very devout man, and he accomplished for Orthodoxy, as few people before him and after him?

      Ushakov ended his life as a monk, and Orthodoxy is not communism, nothing needs to be done for him. Christianity is self-sufficient.
      And assignment to the saints is not an order for services to the Fatherland.
  14. faterdom
    faterdom 6 December 2020 23: 39
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    Quote: Junger
    Ushakov ended his life as a monk

    And Alexander Nevsky is not a monk. And what follows from this?
    1. Jünger
      Jünger 7 December 2020 09: 28
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      Quote: faterdom
      And Alexander Nevsky is not a monk. And what follows from this?

      It follows from this that you do not know history, since
      Taking the schema under the name of Alexy, he died on November 4, 1263 in Gorodets Volzhsky.

      All grand dukes and kings, up to a certain point, became monks before death.
      But I do not mean that monasticism is necessary in order to become a saint, but because Ushakov completely dedicated his life to God at the end of his life, while Suvorov is not.
      I do not deny that Suvorov may be a saint, but to follow the chain - that Ushakov was canonized, and therefore Suvorov is also needed - this is crap. It doesn't work that way.
  15. faterdom
    faterdom 7 December 2020 11: 58
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    Quote: Junger
    Quote: faterdom
    And Alexander Nevsky is not a monk. And what follows from this?

    It follows from this that you do not know history, since
    Taking the schema under the name of Alexy, he died on November 4, 1263 in Gorodets Volzhsky.

    All grand dukes and kings, up to a certain point, became monks before death.
    But I do not mean that monasticism is necessary in order to become a saint, but because Ushakov completely dedicated his life to God at the end of his life, while Suvorov is not.
    I do not deny that Suvorov may be a saint, but to follow the chain - that Ushakov was canonized, and therefore Suvorov is also needed - this is crap. It doesn't work that way.

    Suvorov, at least personally, taught the Law of God in the schools he built for soldiers and officers' children (and arithmetic, but this is not relevant). And he began all his battles by offering up a sincere prayer - the result, as they say, is obvious!
    But many monks, and even the hierarchs of the church, did not play a positive role in strengthening the Faith, but somehow the other way around ...
    True, this is how it is: it is the latter who determine the candidates and the process of canonization. And this, of course, is objective and sacred - you can't argue!
    And about Nevsky - being mortally ill, he was tonsured and died that very night! That is, formally - he became a monk, in reality he was not a monk all his life until the very last day.
    1. Jünger
      Jünger 7 December 2020 12: 04
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      Quote: faterdom
      True, this is how it is: it is the latter who determine the candidates and the process of canonization. And this, of course, is objective and sacred - you can't argue!

      And how should it be - by popular vote of people, for the most part, far from understanding the essence of faith and even morality? smile That is, we take everyone from whom "Gd is in their souls" (in their words) and let them settle the issues of holiness. laughing
      In general, you famously recorded all the hierarchs as sinners.
  16. faterdom
    faterdom 7 December 2020 12: 12
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    Quote: Junger
    You famously wrote down all the hierarchs as sinners.

    I don't trust them, and I can't do anything about it.
    Even this heresy I carry with me all my life: Christ did not create any such hierarchical organization, did not call for the construction of huge churches, and even more so did not see the role of his teaching in serving those in power.
    Namely, as you aptly noted, carry God in yourself, in your thoughts and actions.
    It turned out, what happened - the apotheosis for me personally a fake "Letter of Constantine", where one of the titles of Roman Caesars was passed on to a certain high priest: pontiff (caretaker of bridges), quite understandable due to its importance for the emperor, and an absolutely unclear desire for a priest.
    1. Jünger
      Jünger 7 December 2020 12: 37
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      Quote: faterdom
      Christ did not create any such hierarchical organization

      How could he not, when he personally created the hierarchy - the apostles and everyone else. The main apostles were 12, the rest - 70. Then the apostles continued.
      Quote: faterdom
      did not urge to build huge temples,

      Well, he did not call, but this is the need of people, not Gd. The church is a meetinghouse for believers.
      Quote: faterdom
      no longer saw the role of his teaching in serving those in power

      The authorities must obey and follow their orders. Moreover, any authorities - both good and bad. "Give back to Caesar what is Caesar's." And Caesar was the occupier of Judea at that time.
      Quote: faterdom
      Namely, as you aptly noted, carry God in yourself, in your thoughts and actions

      Well, Chikatilo also probably wore it. Both Nero and Hitler. We need a standard - who wears what. Or maybe it just seems to someone that he is wearing something?
      Quote: faterdom
      It turned out, what happened - the apotheosis for me personally a fake "Letter of Constantine", where one of the titles of Roman Caesars was passed on to a certain high priest: pontiff (caretaker of bridges), quite understandable due to its importance for the emperor, and an absolutely unclear desire for a priest.

      Well, this is not a question for the Orthodox.
  17. Shubin Petr Kostantinovich
    Shubin Petr Kostantinovich 17 January 2021 18: 14
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    Generalissimo Suvorov is the only commander who fought 60 battles and won all of them. Thank you for the article which shows events unknown to me from his biography.