Military exports from Turkey to Azerbaijan increased by more than 11 percent in 600 months

There are data on Turkey's military exports to Azerbaijan for 11 months of this year. These data are announced by the correspondent of the Middle East Eye in Ankara, Rajip Soylu.

The journalist writes that during the mentioned period (January-November 2020) weapons, ammunition, weapons and equipment from Turkey to Azerbaijan rose by a whopping 610 percent. The total volume of Turkish military exports is estimated at almost $ 300 million. This is despite the fact that the total military budget of the Republic of Azerbaijan for 2020 is about $ 2,2 billion. In comparison with 2019, it has grown by more than 20%.

One of the nomenclature groups of deliveries from Turkey is shock Drones Bayraktar TB-2, ammunition for them, as well as reconnaissance-type UAVs. The largest number of munitions supplied are air-launched anti-tank guided missiles.

Soylu writes that Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan intends to visit Azerbaijan on December 9-10. It is likely that on December 10, a military parade in honor of the victory in Karabakh, announced earlier by Ilham Aliyev, may take place in Baku. Earlier, the Azerbaijani president has determined a new holiday in the republic: November 10, based on his order, was declared the day of victory.

Considering the data on more than impressive growth in the volume of Turkish military exports to Azerbaijan in the current year, as well as data on the growth of the republic's military budget, it can be stated that Azerbaijan was preparing for war. Whether the same can be said about Armenia and the unrecognized Nagorno-Karabakh Republic is a rather rhetorical question.

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[Overlock]

this is what says that Baku was preparing for the war very seriously. Result achieved

[antivirus]

everyone was preparing - each general for his war, past or future

[poquello]

Quote: Overlock

this is what says that Baku was preparing for the war very seriously. Result achieved

an avalanche increase in the military budget is characteristic of subsequent events, before 080808 the Georgians had the same picture

[Alekseev]

Yes, Baku was seriously preparing, and the Armenians could not even mobilize a sufficient number of regular trained troops and purchase modern means of struggle.
But .. Azerbaijan has lost about 3 thousand lie and officers, even under such conditions. It's not a good idea to tread in the mountains. It is one thing to win in the operation, but it is impossible to defeat Armenia as a state by the forces of Azerbaijan.
Baku understands this very well. Both of these countries need peace, without it there will be no normal existence for either of these. And they will have to find a compromise and establish peaceful coexistence.

[Avior]

Why would Azerbaijan smash Armenia?
It seems like there is no reason ...

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Avior

Why would Azerbaijan smash Armenia?
It seems like there is no reason ...

Yes, something like this, Karabakh is not recognized, but Armenia "cannot", and Aliyev is an adequate person, you can believe him "we take our own, we don't need someone else's."

[Avior]

Karabakh is a recognized part of Azerbaijan
Including recognized by Armenia.
And why does Aliyev need Armenia and Azerbaijan as a whole?

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Avior

Karabakh is a recognized part of Azerbaijan

Recognized or not, but the war has been going on for decades, until it ended for a while.

[Avior]

I do not see the possibility of its renewal today.
Only a full-fledged war on the part of Armenia against Azerbaijan.
But I'm sure that if it were real, it would have started during this conflict.
I see no other options.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Avior

I do not see the possibility of its renewal today.

Yes, the fire has been extinguished for several decades, but the coals are smoldering.

[TermNachTer]

There will be no peace.

[karima]

Quote: Alekseev

it is impossible to defeat Armenia as a state by the forces of Azerbaijan.

Wah, why does Azerbaijan need Armenia? There are more than 2 million people, what to do with them? Not necessary, from the word at all.

[Imobile]

This is not a quick process. Mobilization has been going on for a year; it was recently Russia that reduced mobilization to a month. And the war passed very quickly. The main parity was achieved in the early days. And the sense from the mobilized - cannon fodder. Nobody has come up with anything against drones yet. There are dubious theoretical reflections, but how it will be in practice is a big question

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: Overlock

this is what says that Baku was preparing for the war very seriously. Result achieved

This speaks to what kind of "friends-comrades" actually live in the neighborhood. From these stones, which they wear in their bosoms, it is possible to build the second Great Wall of China ...

[TermNachTer]

What is the result?))) It was supposed to seize the entire territory of the NKAO and 7 regions of the "security zone". Almost all of Karabakh and two remained with the Armenians. If I knew the real losses in the equipment and l / s of the Azerbaijani Armed Forces, I think it would be even sadder. But Aliyev will not tell the truth, maybe the next president

[Leeds]

But we won ...

[Alien From]

Erdogan won this war for Aliyev, thus finally crushing Azerbaijan under himself.

[AGGURD]

Quote: Alien From

Erdogan won this war for Aliyev, thus finally crushing Azerbaijan under himself.

with Korea, the Armenians crushed their hands under themselves ... you even have the gut of a tank at home for the Armenians to say something, they omit you on all channels. in all media everywhere there are officials either pro-Armenian or their prisoners, and when the Armenians decided with Azerbaijan on people first decided to say "KARABAKH ARMENIA" for which they were attacked not only as a country but also as a nation (because Armenians from all over the world came to fight from everywhere they could) and when they were torn to pieces, by order of the hays, "fass" the Russians came running like a miraculous mission. but they tried not to come ... but how do you like this picture .. before you insult Aliyev, look at yourself ... who are you? how do you live? you are not even used in your house and you are still like that you do komen ... Aliev himself will sweep and crush whoever you want and will do this for a long time ... with whom he wants and when he wants ... he has the knowledge of the skill and the opportunity for this ... unlike even who consider themselves gigimons ... you can justify my words but only with arguments and acts?

[AGGURD]

Quote: saigon

Well, sir, what is considered meanness for an ordinary person in the areas above is called the skill of politics.
And do you disagree with the fact that the Kurds are a good argument for creating splinters in the ass of the new Ottoman is not up to the Sultan?
A perfectly acceptable move partners have to pay with the same coin, dreams of Turkic unity are not so bad to oppose dreams of Kurdish freedom, and this, so to speak, pay for the Kurds for the 19th century, who sometimes fought on the side of the Russian army against the Turks.

Turkey achieved what it wanted in Syria ... at first it did not allow the American-European alliance to spread itself near its borders and create Kurdistan, and then the Russians managed to close the topic with Kurdistan ... Putin took the obligation that this topic would no longer be replaced by Bashir Assad, which means and the vassal of the Russians and Iraq is Turkish, In short, Iraq and no Kurdistan on Syria, and everything is in vigrysh, Ruska and Turks ...., the West and Syria (which became a vassal) lost, in general, it was a question of either American Europeans, either Turkish or Russian .. .becoming Turkish is only a headache for Turkey ... would have to fight for another 50 years with the Americans and with the Russians and Europeans who supported the Kurds ... something like this

[Pessimist22]

The Turks are still not stupid and have achieved political interests and earned money.

[OgnennyiKotik]

Strong publicity for Turkish weapons. There are talks about the purchase of Bayraktar by Ukraine, Kazakhstan, Pakistan, Saudis. Consequently, this is driving other industries.

[Overlock]

Quote: Pessimist22

and the money earned.

not only money! Name! Exit to the Caspian Sea!

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: Pessimist22

Turks are not stupid after all and political interests achieved and money earned.

Turks are too self-confident. The position of the Russian authorities on foreign policy issues is weak and dependent on many reasons. Russia has no reliable neighbor, and Turkey has skillfully used the long-standing enmity between Armenia and Azerbaijan. By and large, all this fuss is fraught only with the fact that NATO will be on the shores of the Caspian.
A state betraying its own interests leads the country to degradation and dependence on any external influence ...
This is not a disaster, but "someone else's goat" in our garden.

[saigon]

Well, sir, what is considered meanness for an ordinary person in the areas above is called the skill of politics.
And do you disagree with the fact that the Kurds are a good argument for creating splinters in the ass of the new Ottoman is not up to the Sultan?
A perfectly acceptable move partners have to pay with the same coin, dreams of Turkic unity are not so bad to oppose dreams of Kurdish freedom, and this, so to speak, pay for the Kurds for the 19th century, who sometimes fought on the side of the Russian army against the Turks.

[X-factor]

First, he is the president and calls himself that. If he felt like a sultan, then he is the man who, without undue hesitation, would call himself that.
Secondly, personally, what would you say if the west near the borders of Russia begins to incite all disputed and hot spots (Georgia, Poland, Transnistria, Ukraine, disputed territories with China, Japan and others). Personally, I think that acting from under the Teska is dirty and mean. If you are a man, say it in the face, and not in the back, hit it. Fortunately, Putin is a man and he can say his word to anyone in person. And God forbid the president of such natures as you. Intrigues in the government have never led to good. Each stick has 2 ends !!!

[Essex62]

Incited, incited and will incite. The insolent Saxons are always so proxy, and the Turks are not lagging behind.

[saigon]

And what are they not inciting? Instigate whenever possible.
Do not confuse politics and HUMAN relations, a completely different principle.
The state cannot use ethical norms in its existence, the state is pragmatism and also an apparatus of coercion.
Do not be confused to say to the face and the military, let's say so - War is a way of deception used to say Sun - Tzu Chinese military theorist of old times. ...
And his works are still being studied in Asian military schools.
And by blowing the tune about the unity of the Turkic peoples, the Turks somewhat create problems for Russia.
Since who are the Türks, many know little or generally do not know, not realizing that in our time the Türkic peoples are close only in terms of language, having different origins, huge differences in origin 10 centuries, the eastern Turks of the second kaganate were carved at the root)

[Senka naughty]

Quote: X-factor

Working from under the tyoshka is a sign of the deepest meanness in the nature of a particular person.

If you are a Jew, then "this is different."

[hydro]

Learn Russian, and then write, Rejepushka! ) The US Kurds will throw weapons), we will help the Syrian Arabs with Idlib)

[hydro]

Wow, the Turks were trolled)

[Reserve buildbat]

Conclusion: the aggressors prepared for the attack in advance (which is logical and correct), but the defenders somehow missed it. Conclusion - the aggressor received, though not everything he wanted, but a lot, the aggressor's support warmed his hands rather robustly, and at the same time increased its influence in the region. The Turkobes are in the black, Azeibarzhan (s) (Gorbachev) is in a partial plus, Armenia is in the minus, Russia is trying to keep the region from war. The alignment is not happy somehow ... Again, NATO pseudopodia climb where it is not necessary

[X-factor]

In this particular case the aggressor is Armenia. Over the past two years, she has stated that Armenia is preparing for a new war to seize territories. A preemptive strike was struck on it, and almost everything that they had captured before was returned.
To this end, in July, Armenia conducted reconnaissance by force in Tavush (Tovuz). The fact that the explosions took place at a distance of 15 to 25 km from the vital oil and gas arteries, it says that it was Armenia who preferred to arrange a collapse there in order to frighten the enemy.

Here are some of the quotes:
“Tonoyan’s words“ new war - new territories ”mean that the minister warns Azerbaijan that in the event of a new war this country will lose new territories,” political scientist Hakob Vardanyan said in an interview with REGNUM news agency.

Details: https://regnum.ru/news/polit/2602031.html
Any use of materials is allowed only if there is a hyperlink to REGNUM.

- Pashinyan noted that if David Tonoyan had made a different statement, he would have relieved him of the post of defense minister.

Details: https://regnum.ru/news/polit/2603820.html
Any use of materials is allowed only if there is a hyperlink to REGNUM.

[Renator]

Quote: Stroibat stock

the aggressors prepared for the attack in advance

The aggressor was and there are Armenians in Karabakh that you always twist and twist, be at least a little fair and honest!

[Reserve buildbat]

That is, peaceful kind Azerbaijanis attacked Karabakh in the name of peace?

[Renator]

Quote: Stroibat stock

That is, peaceful kind Azerbaijanis attacked Karabakh in the name of peace?

That is, the peaceful Azerbaijanis were forced by the Armenians themselves to return their lands back with weapons!
There is no need to give out here as if the Azerbaijanis attacked Armenia! Enough duplicity

[Reserve buildbat]

Poor unfortunate Azerbaijanis attacked HUGE Armenia to restore hysterical justice. And since the "Azeibarjan" himself is small and weak, a small and weak Turkey actively helped him in the attack, and only together, with incredible efforts, they managed to defeat the terrible army of Nagorno-Karabakh. Moreover, for at least some support, I had to drag hundreds of ISIS militants, otherwise it will not be clear that Azerbaijanis are peaceful
ISIS is known to be the most peaceful organization. An example for mother teresa, her mother

[Azimuth]

Did it ever occur to you that we should not be on the side of the Armenians or on the side of the Azerbaijanis, but be above the situation?

Did it ever occur to you that in the 90s, without our support, the Armenians would not have received donkey ears without us and donkey ears, let alone Karabakh and the regions around it, the Azerbaijanis had numerical superiority, and they got more weapons from the ZakVO units?

Did it ever occur to you that even now, if it weren't for us, the Armenians could not have gotten off with the defeat of their units outside Armenia, but would have received blows on their own territory much more powerful, what are the only large-caliber MLRS deployed in Nakhichevan? Why do you think Azerbaijan responded only a couple of times and selectively in response to the Armenian strikes on Kirovobad (Ganja), destroying the Elbrus launchers?

Armenia is only a microscopic country on the world map, on which the Armenians themselves put by and large, Armenians make up 0,7-0,8% of our population, and this minority blooms and smells so much in our country that God forbid everyone, and does not burn desire to live in their Armenia. Our people are not interested in our patriots, he is not ... I am not interested in the authorities, that some, that others are always running around with some dependents, adhered, like schizophrenics are sick with a dibble and useless messiahship! Only once VVP did everything clearly and calmly, and how these patriotic hysterics screamed, they say, they passed, they say, they merged. They figure that out of 1,1 million. Armenians, citizens of Russia, and half a million freeloaders who rolled over to us, there were no queues rushing to defend Artsakh, but in the opinion of patriots who will not move beyond their sofas and change the remote control from the zombie box with 20 channels of porn to the machine the Azeris should let the yushka go and sprinkle the "holy Armenian land" with the blood of their soldiers.
You and you like uryakalka, have not forgotten that these lands on which your favorites created their state and sing "My beloved Armenia" are already watered with Russian blood? One of my great-grandfathers died near Kars, and then a poster for me "Russian occupants out!", Apparently in gratitude, and should I die there? What self-respect, what hatred for your people? Where does all this come from? Where is the sense of dignity?

For those who are in the tank, THAT IS WHAT AZERBAIJAN AND TURKEY HAVE NOT LEVELED ARMENIA TO THE EARTH NOW THIS IS ONLY AND BECAUSE WE ARE NOT ALLOWED. We told the Armenians to give up the occupied regions, but what in return? And they threw out the knees, but twisted the fifth point, creating a headache and hemorrhoids, and then they climbed into the Eastern Partnership, then they rub against NATO, and we all have to forgive and empathize with them - for whom and what? For Gabrielian and Life News? Or for Kirokorov's sake? Or for the sake of Martirosyan and Galustyan? Or for the sake of hundreds of Armenian businessmen, from oligarchs to sellers of overdue shawarma from the trash heap of the nearest supermarket?
How did you get all these six weeks ...

[Reserve buildbat]

Something has brought you somewhere completely wrong. I don't care about Azerbaijan and Armenia. I would be really glad if all Azerbaijanis and Armenians rushed from Russia to this war in bulk and never returned. And not only them))). I'm just making fun of the situation. Look at the map, compare the size of Armenia and Azerbaijan, evaluate the mob reserve of each of the countries and enjoy their real military power, since in the attack on Karabakh the Turks drove Azerbaijanis into the attack, and even brought a couple of thousand ISIS members. Looks like "great warriors" in Azerbaijan. However, Armenia is no better

[no better place for]

Demons are those who drunk you conceived

[Avior]

... the total military budget of the Republic of Azerbaijan for 2020 is about $ 2,2 billion.

The military budget of Armenia for 2020 is $ 625 million.
Moreover, with the arrival of Pashinyan, the military budget of Armenia grew sharply by a third - from 200 billion drams in 2017 (440 million dollars) to 250 billion drams in 2018 and 300 billion drams (more than 600 million dollars) in 2019-2020.
Armenia still economically did not pull the military confrontation with Azerbaijan, but did not want to admit it to itself, and as the result of the war showed, this concerned not only the leadership of Armenia, but first of all the entire population, some have not yet reached it.
The conclusion is simple - you need to look at the world more realistically, and this conclusion is for everyone, not just for Armenians ...

[Overlock]

Quote: Avior

Moreover, with the arrival of Pashinyan, the military budget of Armenia grew sharply by a third - from 200 billion drams in 2017 (440 million dollars) to 250 billion drams in 2018 and 300 billion drams (more than 600 million dollars) in 2019-2020.

and everyone rammed Pashinyan for "treason and the collapse of the army." Probably it's not Pashinyan only

[Ovsigovets]

of course, not only in Pashinyan ... but in case of war, the main responsibility is on him ... if he lost, he was shot

[Avior]

Even before Pashinyan, the economy in Armenia was ruined by "worthy" people.
To fight, you need money, and if you take it from nowhere, the result is natural.

[DAQ]

Rammed for personnel cleansing. Bleed the entire power unit.
He kicked out many experienced security officials.
Arranged personnel leapfrog.
He managed to change the intelligence leadership 4 times, the most epic: a 29-year-old boy, whose "son" was the director of the Armenian KGB, and not a Chekist, but "his own man."
He got into a mess with Russia.
In general, I did everything through the "legs"

[Azimuth]

Do you mean us ourselves? ... But we are more than modest in our plans and actions, and we perfectly understand where we can overstrain by repeating the history of the USSR. But we also understand where you cannot turn on the back one and in no case should you compromise your interests.

[The leader of the Redskins]

And this 600% is by no means "money down the drain."

[iouris]

Quote: Leader of the Redskins

by no means, not "money down the drain."

It is "money down the drain". The return had to be sought without war. It’s very difficult to populate these territories with Azerbaijanis alone. For thirty years refugees have ceased to be refugees (or something is wrong with the country). Moving again practically to the war ... It's unlikely. But refugees from the Middle East will be satisfied with this option. Erdogan has them.

[Vadim237]

The places there are picturesque, you can develop agriculture, resource extraction, tourist business, and so on. Don't worry, the Azerbaijanis will improve everything there in 10 years.

[OgnennyiKotik]

Gold mines are of interest. More precisely, not they themselves, but what goes with them. Uranium and rare earth metals.

[karima]

Quote: Vadim237

Don't worry, the Azerbaijanis will improve everything there in 10 years.

In ten years there will be a new "all inclusive".

[Avior]

What war?
You can forget about it.
The Armenians themselves will not start a war, neither from Armenia, nor in Karabakh.
And others are not planned there.

[Renator]

[quote = iouris] The return had to be sought without war. [/ quote
The Minsk group worked not in the interests of two, but only one, and he worked in the interests of the Armenians!
So, WITHOUT WAR, it's not like it was

[Scorpio05]

This is not a Minsk group, but some kind of Armenian fan club)

[karima]

Quote: Scorpio05

This is not a Minsk group, but some kind of Armenian fan club)

And Azerbaijan will undoubtedly remember who helped him and who was stick in the wheels.

[antivirus]

"money downwind" - mainly in the air and control ..................................... .....

[iouris]

Before Georgia's attack on the Russian Federation, its military budget was also prohibitive. The economy cannot stand this for a long time. It was clear to the horse in the coat that the state of Georgia was preparing for war. The war has taken place. Suddenly. Everyone was on vacation. Everything goes according to plan.

[VyacheSeymour]

Before Georgia's attack on the Russian Federation, its military budget was also prohibitive.

Here you are greatly mistaken; for 2008, military spending was planned in the amount of $ 1 billion (more than twice as much as in 2007). I think you do not need to explain that a significant part of the funds is spent on the maintenance, improvement of the material and living conditions of the army ... The same funds that are planned for the purchase of weapons and training of personnel for it give a return only after many years (supply contracts by magic sticks are not fulfilled), and only long-term high expenses bring returns over many years. So that one lard of greenery that Mishiko laid down for 2008 remained a piece of good wishes.
PS. What have I missed? ..Georgia attacked the Russian Federation?

[poquello]

Quote: VyacheSeymour

for 2008, military spending was planned in the amount of $ 1 billion (more than twice as much as in 2007). I think you don't need to explain

what should be considered from the arrival of Sakashvili

[hydro]

Well, a blow was struck at the peacekeeping troops of the Russian Federation! So to the RF!

[Cowbra]

And now the cherry on the cake. Azerbaijan already spent a significant part of the budget on the defense industry. And now the wind is definitely whistling in their pockets. Something does not seem to me that Azerbaijan is now the winner. Let's wait a year and look at the budget

[Ovsigovets]

well, it depends on whose budgets to compare ... if Azerbaijan before the war and Azerbaijan during, then most likely there is a bias in the military sector ... if Azerbaijan and Armenia, then the budget is still better

[OgnennyiKotik]

I don’t know anything and I don’t understand, but I have an opinion. Your credo.
As of October 1, 2020, the stabilization fund of Azerbaijan had $ 43 billion. The annual budget is in the region of $ 12 billion. The whole war cost $ 2-3 billion. They can afford 10 such wars, there is still money left.
https://ru.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Государственный_нефтяной_фонд_Азербайджанской_Республики
https://www.oilfund.az/en/report-and-statistics/recent-figures

[VyacheSeymour]

OgnennyiKotik, you cited only the data of the State Oil Fund. The strategic foreign exchange reserves of Azerbaijan are formed from the reserves of the CBA, the assets of the State Oil Fund and the treasury funds of the Ministry of Finance.
According to the Central Bank of Azerbaijan, for July 2020, strategic reserves amounted to $ 51,7 billion.

[Cowbra]

My dear, you understand everything, right? Have you seen "Kin-dza-dza"? "Girl, are you the smartest here? Did someone tell you that?"
I can just observe and draw conclusions. Leave the tales about how much the war cost "to the children." You were prescribed in this budget and the stabilization fund how much the rent of Turkish F-16s cost. who were suddenly hanging out in Azerbaijan? No? Is it purely humanitarian aid free? And the transfer of militants in droves from Syria to Karabakh, which even Aliyev does not deny - is it under what expense item? Yeah, yes, yes, 2-3 lard. From Wikipedia - a very reliable source, though supervised by the State Department as part of propaganda, but reliable to the stop - they have never been caught in a lie ...

[karima]

Quote: Cowbra

And the transfer of militants in droves from Syria to Karabakh,

And that this has already been proven or are you just doing libel?

[Krasnodar]

Quote: Cowbra

And now the cherry on the cake. Azerbaijan already spent a significant part of the budget on the defense industry. And now the wind is definitely whistling in their pockets. Something does not seem to me that Azerbaijan is now the winner. Let's wait a year and look at the budget

Azerbaijan's gold and foreign exchange reserves are $ 50 billion. The war, along with all the damage to the civilian infrastructure of Ganja, etc., cost them less than a billion dollars.

[Cowbra]

Strongly doubt.

So, according to the report in 2016, the economic cost of the war in the East of Ukraine was 66 billion 749 million dollars according to the purchasing power index.
https://economy.24tv.ua/ru/skolko_dlja_ukrainy_stoit_vojna_v_donbasse_potrjasajushhie_cifry_n824603

Note. The 16th year is not the same 7 boilers, already quieter. Here 3 months to the fullest with the use of active and very expensive means of destruction, such as the same corrected ammunition. So even 60/4 = 12 lard is LITTLE. In the 16th in the Ukraine, nothing flew at all. unlike Karabakh. eg

[Krasnodar]

In those events, everything was sawed mercilessly People from the Ukrainian side of the state raised

[Cowbra]

Oh, will they tell me now about honest Aliyev? Over there, a Wikipedia lover was running ...

According to the Association of Chartered Certified Accountants, in 2017, out of 30 countries surveyed, Azerbaijan was the country with the largest shadow economy - 67%

And this is not the point. No matter how they drank, 10 Bayraktars is already a lard, ammunition for them is certainly no less, what the hell is 1 billion for the whole war ?!

[Krasnodar]

Everything is simpler there - money has been made for a long time and everything is settled. Oil dough. 12 out of 2 rifle tractors were lost, ammunition for them is not expensive - on average for consumables (no losses), the war against Azerbaijan, according to Western estimates, cost no more than 29 million tanks per day

[Cowbra]

Quote: Krasnodar

ammunition for them is not expensive

Che? Are these controllers inexpensive? To tell you in general that the United States did not have enough money to wage a war with the help of managers even in Afghanistan - since 2001 they switched to carpet bombing - the United States did not have enough money, Azerbaijan had enough? "Inexpensive". Linden should be linden, not oak!

[Krasnodar]

Bayraktar's ammunition from Rokestan is not expensive. The Israeli managers who figured out 900 from Herons and Hermes - yes, dear ones, but the war lasted 44 days. I made a mistake in the last post - consumables cost Azerbaijan no more than $ 20 million a day

[Cowbra]

Can carry 4 laser-guided UMTAS anti-tank missiles, or Roketsan MAM-C, MAM-L corrected high-precision gliding bombs capable of striking stationary and moving objects at a distance of up to 8 km

Yes, it is simply not cheaper to come up with. Once again - the United States did not pull such a war

[Krasnodar]

Once again - Rokestan ammunition:
a) cheaper than American and Israeli
b) cheaper than aviation ones, which were used by the Americans
Besides, application for 44 days in Armenia and application for a longer period in Afghanistan has two big differences)). Although - one accurate missile that destroys a tank costs less than 20 FABs, capable of theoretically hitting a tank. But, since in Afghanistan the goals were somewhat different, namely, to hit the area to destroy manpower, then 10 FABs is clearly cheaper

[Cowbra]

Once again: Turkish and drones and ammunition:
a) assembled from imported components
b) as can be seen from the same Bayraktars - made in Turkey is a couple of percent cheaper than made in Israel
c) Adjustable weapons are not cheap in principle. And the difference is not 20 times
d) there was no long time in Afghanistan - carpet bombing began in 2001 and
e) the budgets of the USA and Azerbaijan are incomparable much more than the intensity of the battles in Karabakh and Afghanistan. It was in Afghanistan that the Barmaley were chased, and in Karabakh there was quite a regular army, including air defense.
So about 1 lard for the war - it's just a lie. As well as 2-3 lard - for that kind of money you can only go on an excursion to Turkey.

[Krasnodar]

Well, I'm not a financial analyst, I read in English-language sources that the war cost Aliyev $ 20 million a day on average - 880 million tanks)).
Afghanistan - drones work there, including high-precision ones, to this day.
Karabakh - the use of high-precision was financially more profitable for the reason you indicated - the destroyed air defense systems, tanks, art cost much more

[OgnennyiKotik]

Useless to discuss, your interlocutor is from a parallel universe.
If you pull all the costs out, you get the edge of $ 50 million a day, $ 2,2 trillion per company. The price of Bayraktar TB2 is $ 2-3 million per plane, Harop is $ 100 per plane.
He didn't even read this article, $ 300 million is a record amount of supplies.

[VyacheSeymour]

Useless is not the right word if a person has problems with arithmetic ...

So even 60 / 4 = 12 lard is LITTLE. In the 16th in Ukraine, nothing flew at all. unlike Karabakh. eg

[Avior]

The mysterious unit of measurement is the purchasing power index. Was it measured in big macs or in money?
There are also stronger numbers in the same source.

Russia spent 150 billion dollars on the war in Donbas alone ...
https://economy.24tv.ua/ru/rossija_potratila_na_vojnu_na_donbasse_150_milliardov_dollarov__illarionov_n810024

Who will compose the number more?
You have such an interesting source with such figures. Serious

[Cowbra]

All questions to

This is stated in the annual report "Global Peace Index".
The corresponding report was prepared by the Institute for Economics and Peace, located in Sydney, Australia.
https://economy.24tv.ua/ru/skolko_dlja_ukrainy_stoit_vojna_v_donbasse_potrjasajushhie_cifry_n824603

In parentheses, I will note that this is an independent institution that is doing exactly this. And obviously there are more chops than hamsters from Wikipedia

[Avior]

You have a link to some Ukrainian resource, there is no link to any report.
But you do not understand what it is about, it seems.
How did you convert the purchasing power index into real dollars?
Or do you not understand in what "currency" the example was given? Do you think that they are talking about real dollars, with which you undertook to compare?
Let me tell you a secret, the real figure from this "index" differs several times.

[seacap]

And how much Russian, I'm embarrassed to ask? How many officers and generals are trained in our academies? How many officials graduated from our universities? What amount of agreements and trade have been concluded, etc.? What can we offer them or is it not our people and not ours? territory, at least a sphere of vital interests?

[A good one]

Quote: seacap

What can we offer them

Should we additionally build markets for them in our cities?

[seacap]

If this helps to strengthen our influence in the region, then yes. Overseas partners have colonized more than one country with their McDonald's and Coca-Cola with jeans, including and ours.

[Wolf]

But how many Israel sold weapons to Azerbaijan, the author forgot to say. Occasionally sold 15 times more arms than Turkey. The victory was not until the "Baryaktars" but a new tactical technique of the UAV, which the Turks tried and began to use in Libya. With this actual reception, the Chinese UAVs would achieve the same. So no one says how the UAVs were used and gave it a way of life that the UAVs were only brightened by the whole ones for the whiskey weapon (rocket), as well as the work of the UAVs themselves, some gave backlight and others destroyed, etc.
But all the same, the Turkish generals who came up with the NOVI TACTICAL RECEPTION should respect, take off their caps.
I wonder what kind of generals they were? There are Turks and Islamization of Armenia, Slavs (Ukrintsi, Serbi, Bulgari), etc.

[Russia]

Quote: Wolf

But all the same, the Turkish generals who came up with the NOVI TACTICAL RECEPTION should respect, take off their cap

You are no stranger to what to shoot in front of the Turks. A cap or well below the cap.

[Wolf]

When you minus a lot, it really shows that you hit right where you need to in the center. And the fact that we take off our cap to the Turks Just look at the names and ancestors of these "Turkish" generals.
And the Serbs in history took off their hat in front of the enemy last time in 1999. and so they filmed that then the "invisible" Marsiyanske was sent to Penziu.
But do not worry and in the future we will send to Penziu and the army is strong!

[Wolf]

As for tactics, the Turks were astonished and used this tactic in Libya.

[Wolf]

As for the Turks, so that they would have known even at the time of King Milutin, the differences between the Sultanati came to the Balkans through Bulgaria, and the carablia and dengue were provided by the Venetian Trgovtsi. And what happened? Milutin simply destroyed them like cockroaches and sent them to the voivode to save Tsaprigrad, as Voivode Novak did! And so the Venetians helped the sultans for almost 1 century, and saw that they were only spending money and came up with another strategy that is still being used. From the top They killed Tsar Dushan (poisoned him) and then "HELPED" THE SECTION OF THE SERBIAN KINGDOM FOR 5 KINGDOMS. This strategy is being used today in Ruse! Then they launched an offensive with the head on 2 King Mrnachevich (other Serbs did not help them), and then on 2 Lazar and Vuk in Kosovo in 1389. And then the Serbs were not defeats, the Ottomans came to the Balkans for only 50 years in the Battle of Kosovo! and finally destroyed the Kingdom of Cotromanic in Bosnia and Brankovic in the north. Then comes the 18th century, and then the beginning of the 20th century and the Balkan War. In the Balkan Wars, Serbs freed from the Ottomans and today's Bosnia and Serbia to Solun, Cerna Gora was freed earlier.
So we don’t need the Ottomans to take off our hat in front of the new Ottomans. But today the Serbs know who is the Venetian trade and what their interests are!

[karima]

Quote: Wolf

and so they filmed that then the "invisible" Marsiyanske was sent to Penziu.

Well, where are they and where are you? Where is your country? And how many of how many did you shoot there?

[Wolf]

We were beaten where they were. The country was almost destroyed economically. Filmed much more than enough. They eat which they admitted and where there was no choice of proof in front of our eyes, but they eat and they will never admit to Kotor. The most heady union of 19 zlochinachkih countries turned out to be a WARRIOR IMPOTENT! The Serbian army had fewer casualties, and they managed to kill more than 5.000 civilians. They killed more civilians than soldiers. I do not know what you call the murder of your wife and children, or here it is called a WAR CRIME AND EVIL. The warriors will NEVER get old! and the political climate is changing, so who knows, maybe a new NURNBERG AND NADOKNADA DAMAGE will turn out? ;)
In a military sense, the NATO members were simply powerless, and it’s a lot to say what would happen in a clash with an army with more technical capabilities. Etc.......
In fact, this war was the defeat of all NATO and technical techs against primitive defenses and tactics. They spent billions of $ for the loss of 5.000 civilians, they also sowed the country with radioactive materials. They proved that they are criminals in the war, but they do not have military force!
Here we are and they are!
They also achieved that if there is a big war THREADS ONE OF THEIR SOLDIERS WILL NOT REMAIN ON THE BALKANS ONE SALON TO TRSTA AND VIENE!
They also lost Greece.

[karima]

And the country and I will help you, shot down one flight out of tens of thousands. Of course, push the tail, but it is not difficult to fill in beeches. And in fact?

Quote: Wolf

The country is almost destroyed economically

[Wolf]

In fact, watch the funeral of the military in England and the United States in 1999. and then the pilots will know that there was no 1. But then they died od Covid 19 mud grip!

[karima]

Quote: Wolf

find out that you weren't 1

The last time, and only because I sympathize with your people and country, you were smashed to smithereens, your country

economically almost destroyed

understand, listen and process. If you have other fantasies, on health, but keep in mind, the first step in overcoming the problem is to understand the existence of the problem.

[Wolf]

And what do they want to say? And Hitler economically and physically destroyed all of Europe and half of the world and Serbia. You want to say that the world should NOT RESIST HITLER AND NEW HITLERS TO SAVE THE ECONOMY AND HOME ??? You know, the destruction of the Ludi house will be built again, like factories, the loss of Ludskost will likely take place and much more than the economy, and it has an example for this today in the USA, Germany, France, etc. ... They have turned the people into a biorobot, they agree on the best that would an ass beat in warmth.

[Wolf]

The question is what is important, an ass or a soul?

[Wolf]

I suggest you with the new Fyodra Mikhailovich Dostoevsky and Zlochin and the Treasury and read carefully.
I congratulate you

[Krasnodar]

Who cares, they've all been one people for a long time, plus or minus

[Wolf]

When you minus a lot, it really shows that you hit right where you need to in the center. And the fact that we take off our caps in front of the Turks Look just the names and ancestors of these "Turkish" generals.
And the Serbs in history took off their hat in front of the enemy last time in 1999. and so they filmed that then the "invisible" Marsiyanske was sent to Penziu. 
But do not worry and in the future we will send to Penziu and the army is strong! 

[Krasnodar]

I only add to you

[karima]

Quote: Wolf

and so they filmed that then the "invisible" Marsiyanske was sent to Penziu. 

Well, where are they and where are you? Where is your country? And how many of how many did you shoot there?

[Wolf]

As for the Turks, so that they would have known even at the time of King Milutin, the differences between the Sultanati came to the Balkans through Bulgaria, and the carablia and dengue were provided by the Venetian Trgovtsi. And what happened? Milutin simply destroyed them like cockroaches and sent them to the voivode to save Tsaprigrad, as Voivode Novak did! And so the Venetians helped the sultans for almost 1 century, and saw that they were only spending money and came up with another strategy that is still being used. From the top They killed Tsar Dushan (poisoned him) and then "HELPED" THE SECTION OF THE SERBIAN KINGDOM FOR 5 KINGDOMS. This strategy is being used today in Ruse! Then they launched an offensive with the head on 2 King Mrnachevich (other Serbs did not help them), and then on 2 Lazar and Vuk in Kosovo in 1389. And then the Serbs were not defeats, the Ottomans came to the Balkans for only 50 years in the Battle of Kosovo! and finally destroyed the Kingdom of Cotromanic in Bosnia and Brankovic in the north. Then comes the 18th century, and then the beginning of the 20th century and the Balkan War. In the Balkan Wars, Serbs freed from the Ottomans and today's Bosnia and Serbia to Solun, Cerna Gora was freed earlier.
So we don’t need the Ottomans to take off our hat in front of the new Ottomans. But today the Serbs know who is the Venetian trade and what their interests are! 

[AC130 Gunship]

Well, what's the problem? The arms market has always been and remains extremely profitable. And while Moscow is promoting modernized tanks developed by the late 60s of the last century, the Iizers realized that they definitely cannot win a modern war. And Moscow has no drones for sale

[APASUS]

It is doubtful that such an export of weapons can be missed. Armenians probably knew about such a massive purchase, but why they did not take action, this is already a serious question for Pashinyan.

[iouris]

Today it is impossible to "miss". So there was such a plan. The war began on the signal from somewhere on the side and a very interesting period of time that has not yet ended. So it's too early to discuss the results. But the fact that Aliyev and Pashinyan and Erdogan are chips in someone else's game is not a question. Thus, all sorts of jingoistic patriotic speeches do not come from a pure heart.

[Wolf]

Luris hi cons I confirm that exactly as you said!

[CommanderDIVA]

In accordance with
The Convention on the Legal Status of the Caspian Sea - an international treaty between Azerbaijan, Iran, Kazakhstan, Russia and Turkmenistan, signed on August 12, 2018 within the framework of the Fifth Caspian Summit in the Kazakh city of Aktau, which stipulates the prevention of the presence of armed forces in the Caspian Sea that do not belong to the parties to the treaty, and also defines these five Caspian states as responsible for maintaining security at sea and managing its resources, so it is premature to draw conclusions about the throw of the Turks to the shores of the Caspian Sea and further to Central Asia, and Aliyev is not a layman, he understands that if he is completely under the sultan will lie down on him

[APASUS]

Quote: CommanderDIVA

and Aliyev is not a layman, he understands that if he completely falls under the sultan

Does the sultan want to invest for nothing and get nothing, just out of solidarity? In my opinion, Aliyev has already lost Azerbaijan

[CommanderDIVA]

And where and when did the Sultan publicly talk about the goal of reaching the shores of the Caspian Sea and further to Central Asia using Azerbaijan? Aliyev used the Turks to win the war, then he will refer to the above Convention, they say, I'm sorry brother, but everyone else is against the presence of the Turks in the Caspian region, Russia benefits from the weakening of Turkey, since the economy of this country cannot withstand a war on three fronts: Syria, Libya, Azerbaijan don't forget the recent troubles with the Greeks

[APASUS]

Quote: CommanderDIVA

And where and when did the Sultan publicly talk about the goal of reaching the shores of the Caspian Sea and further to Central Asia using Azerbaijan?

Should I say this?
The USA and NATO say that they bring peace and democracy to everyone, but in fact they are bombing!

Quote: CommanderDIVA

Lieu used the Turks to win the war, then he will refer to the above Convention, they say, I'm sorry brother, but everyone else is against the Turks in the Caspian region,

You probably don’t know the east, it’s difficult to talk like that with Erdogan when you have Turkish troops and a bunch of mercenaries from Syria in your country. Why do the Turks insist that they stay in Azerbaijan?

Quote: CommanderDIVA

Russia benefits from the weakening of Turkey, since the economy of this country will not withstand the war on three fronts: Syria, Libya, Azerbaijan, and do not forget the recent problems with the Greeks

And not only Russia, I think NATO is also thinking.

[Scorpio05]

Quote: Avior

... the total military budget of the Republic of Azerbaijan for 2020 is about $ 2,2 billion.

The military budget of Armenia for 2020 is $ 625 million.
Moreover, with the arrival of Pashinyan, the military budget of Armenia grew sharply by a third - from 200 billion drams in 2017 (440 million dollars) to 250 billion drams in 2018 and 300 billion drams (more than 600 million dollars) in 2019-2020.
Armenia still economically did not pull the military confrontation with Azerbaijan, but did not want to admit it to itself, and as the result of the war showed, this concerned not only the leadership of Armenia, but first of all the entire population, some have not yet reached it.
The conclusion is simple - you need to look at the world more realistically, and this conclusion is for everyone, not just for Armenians ...

Why does Armenia need a military budget?) She still received everything for free from her benefactor.

[Scorpio05]

Quote: Cowbra

My dear, you understand everything, right? Have you seen "Kin-dza-dza"? "Girl, are you the smartest here? Did someone tell you that?"
I can just observe and draw conclusions. Leave the tales about how much the war cost "to the children." You were prescribed in this budget and the stabilization fund how much the rent of Turkish F-16s cost. who were suddenly hanging out in Azerbaijan? No? Is it purely humanitarian aid free? And the transfer of militants in droves from Syria to Karabakh, which even Aliyev does not deny - is it under what expense item? Yeah, yes, yes, 2-3 lard. From Wikipedia - a very reliable source, though supervised by the State Department as part of propaganda, but reliable to the stop - they have never been caught in a lie ...

What are you talking about others here? Nobody in Azerbaijan says or recognizes anything like that, you don’t spread Armenian nonsense here. And on Wikipedia, with their herds of fakes, Armenian liars-editors graze, headed by a certain hireling Vadim Gomoz.

[Evgeny Seleznev]

Actually, nothing is not usual. Azerbaijan changed its ally and achieved impressive results. Here it is necessary to think about Russia with a unique policy that screwed up Ukraine, Georgia, Azerbaijan and soon Belarus, which has hotbeds of tension near its borders and has no allies.

[AGGURD]

Quote: TermNachTER

What is the result?))) It was supposed to seize the entire territory of the NKAO and 7 regions of the "security zone". Almost all of Karabakh and two remained with the Armenians. If I knew the real losses in the equipment and l / s of the Azerbaijani Armed Forces, I think it would be even sadder. But Aliyev will not tell the truth, maybe the next president

apparently you stayed in the month of October ... Wait already December ... and from November 10 all 7 regions together with Karabakh without any status are the territory of Azerbaijan + Armenia will have to pay 50 billion $ and this is not all, the amount will grow for applying damage to nature for 30 years and property after November 10, and the residents of Karabakh became citizens of Azerbaijan, and even then not all, and only those who had no fighters in the family in either the first or the second war, will acquire a single citizenship, it is forbidden to breed pigs, make alcohol , cannot serve and work in strategic and power structures .. who does not want and does not agree ... "Who are you, give goodbye ... !!!"

[Azimuth]

Quote: AĞGURD

Quote: TermNachTER

What is the result?))) It was supposed to seize the entire territory of the NKAO and 7 regions of the "security zone". Almost all of Karabakh and two remained with the Armenians. If I knew the real losses in the equipment and l / s of the Azerbaijani Armed Forces, I think it would be even sadder. But Aliyev will not tell the truth, maybe the next president

apparently you stayed in the month of October ... Wait already December ... and from November 10 all 7 regions together with Karabakh without any status are the territory of Azerbaijan + Armenia will have to pay 50 billion $ and this is not all, the amount will grow for applying damage to nature for 30 years and property after November 10, and the residents of Karabakh became citizens of Azerbaijan, and even then not all, and only those who had no fighters in the family in either the first or the second war, will acquire a single citizenship, it is forbidden to breed pigs, make alcohol , cannot serve and work in strategic and power structures .. who does not want and does not agree ... "Who are you, give goodbye ... !!!"

after the victory over the Armenians, they decided that they had captured not only a couple of dozen rusty T-72s, buffer areas, but also the Armenian right to whistle without blushing?
First, Armenia does not owe anything yet and it is not a fact that Azerbaijan will achieve anything in European and international courts.
Secondly, the residents of Karabakh did not become citizens of Azerbaijan, since it does not exercise its sovereignty in this territory and does not control the section of the border with Armenia. The Armenians simply received our peacekeepers in exchange for the buffer areas around Karabakh.
Thirdly, they made fun of pigs in general, in the suburbs of Baku, and there are not only pig farms. So you can eat lard, but Armenians can't? I’m in Baku, calmly ordered cold platter with lard in a restaurant, brought several types, only two were Stavropol, everything else is local
Fourth, judging by the photo, the President of Karabakh, as before, moves everywhere with his ARMED security ...

Azerbaijan and Aliyev are great fellows, the Azerbaijani Turks showed themselves, there are no words, they showed both modern war and spirit and will to victory. I look at the videos that have begun to be published in Telegram, BUT ... gentlemen of the info war, you were not there, you were not at war, and please, by the way, this concerns the opponents, Armenians, as well. It is clear for you this is a super war, you have lived with this for 30 years, but you are already tired of idle talk. About weapons, tactics, techniques ZERO, you are not able to discuss this, you only carry the same nonsense, you are really tired, especially since there is not a single warrior among you, all the heroes are only on the Internet, but everyone is scribbling from under the little wife's skirt, and even mom.
Let's either really interesting things, I will repeat weapons, tactics and techniques, perhaps an analysis of a particular operation, an assessment of the actions of units, etc., or if only propaganda, then "let's goodbye", the war is over, exhale and blame on which site dating, crochet knitting and so on.

[AGGURD]

Quote: Azimuth

Quote: AĞGURD

Quote: TermNachTER

What is the result?))) It was supposed to seize the entire territory of the NKAO and 7 regions of the "security zone". Almost all of Karabakh and two remained with the Armenians. If I knew the real losses in the equipment and l / s of the Azerbaijani Armed Forces, I think it would be even sadder. But Aliyev will not tell the truth, maybe the next president

apparently you stayed in the month of October ... Wait already December ... and from November 10 all 7 regions together with Karabakh without any status are the territory of Azerbaijan + Armenia will have to pay 50 billion $ and this is not all, the amount will grow for applying damage to nature for 30 years and property after November 10, and the residents of Karabakh became citizens of Azerbaijan, and even then not all, and only those who had no fighters in the family in either the first or the second war, will acquire a single citizenship, it is forbidden to breed pigs, make alcohol , cannot serve and work in strategic and power structures .. who does not want and does not agree ... "Who are you, give goodbye ... !!!"

after the victory over the Armenians, they decided that they had captured not only a couple of dozen rusty T-72s, buffer areas, but also the Armenian right to whistle without blushing?
First, Armenia does not owe anything yet and it is not a fact that Azerbaijan will achieve anything in European and international courts.
Secondly, the residents of Karabakh did not become citizens of Azerbaijan, since it does not exercise its sovereignty in this territory and does not control the section of the border with Armenia. The Armenians simply received our peacekeepers in exchange for the buffer areas around Karabakh.
Thirdly, they made fun of pigs in general, in the suburbs of Baku, and there are not only pig farms. So you can eat lard, but Armenians can't? I’m in Baku, calmly ordered cold platter with lard in a restaurant, brought several types, only two were Stavropol, everything else is local
Fourth, judging by the photo, the President of Karabakh, as before, moves everywhere with his ARMED security ...

Azerbaijan and Aliyev are great fellows, the Azerbaijani Turks showed themselves, there are no words, they showed both modern war and spirit and will to victory. I look at the videos that have begun to be published in Telegram, BUT ... gentlemen of the info war, you were not there, you were not at war, and please, by the way, this concerns the opponents, Armenians, as well. It is clear for you this is a super war, you have lived with this for 30 years, but you are already tired of idle talk. About weapons, tactics, techniques ZERO, you are not able to discuss this, you only carry the same nonsense, you are really tired, especially since there is not a single warrior among you, all the heroes are only on the Internet, but everyone is scribbling from under the little wife's skirt, and even mom.
Let's either really interesting things, I will repeat weapons, tactics and techniques, perhaps an analysis of a particular operation, an assessment of the actions of units, etc., or if only propaganda, then "let's goodbye", the war is over, exhale and blame on which site dating, crochet knitting and so on.

Well, about myself, I can answer fought in a detachment of volunteers 1992 was wounded in the arm after 6 months ... I don’t say that I was a strong fighter, I was only 19 years old. And wait, I didn’t even volunteer ... you know, I read publications with interest when real professionals write. they understand the technique and tactics as much as the pleasure of rereading, I realize my ignorance about the comparison with them and read silently, but suddenly there appear asmo, they know something, although even I understand that I know more than him they write the uttermost nonsense or belittle someone or insult someone ... here I react to such people ... at the expense of the svens, you are right, we have no prohibitions, but the Armenians and maybe the Areb. also in Karabakh it will be forbidden to breed pigs ... you can buy, keep a house, eat, but not breed ... debt, too, do not worry it was decided and agreed upon when the contract was signed ... it has always been one of the stage-by-stage but not explicit conditions ... it has always been and will be .. the capitalizing party pays ...% 80 Russia% 20 Turkey plays the role of a judge in this advo kata and guarantor ...