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"Baltic Dome": For "protection from Russia" Europe was offered to use Israeli technology

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"Baltic Dome": For "protection from Russia" Europe was offered to use Israeli technology

It looks like the Russians have succeeded in creating the ultra-fast cruise missiles that the EU fears so much. For "protection from Russia" Europe was offered to use the Israeli option and technology.


This was done by Swedish journalist Peter Magnus Nilsson in an article published by Dagens Industri.

He argues that the very fact of possessing an effective missile weapons Russia plunged Europe into a state of "strategic depression":

Moscow managed to intimidate everyone and create an atmosphere of strategic depression in Europe. Now almost everywhere is mourning.

According to the author, the Europeans have something to fear, because Russian missiles can be launched from small installations at a distance of up to two thousand kilometers. Despite this, the United States is passive and does nothing to protect the EU countries.

Nilsson believes that Sweden and other European states should follow the example of Israel, which has created an effective air and missile defense system "Iron Dome", reliably protecting the country from air strikes. This defensive network is capable of destroying any missiles, perhaps even Russian ones, according to the author.

He invites the Europeans to create their own "Baltic Dome" using the Israeli experience:

Gather everyone you can and build the Baltic Dome to protect us from new missile threats. Hire Israelis as experts. This will not only improve our mindset, but it will also turn the balance of power between democracies and the Russian regime.

- suggests Nilsson.
Photos used:
https://ru.wikipedia.org/, Israel Defense Forces
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  1. AVA77
    AVA77 3 December 2020 12: 43
    +3
    This defensive network is capable of destroying any missile, perhaps even Russian.
    Cool, let's do it. laughing
    1. loki565
      loki565 3 December 2020 13: 42
      +15
      This defensive network is capable of destroying any missile, perhaps even Russian.
      Cool, let's do

      But so far it has been tested on rockets made of pipes and it copes with them with varying success)))
      1. AVA77
        AVA77 3 December 2020 13: 54
        +3
        I think the Israelis counted 10 times, substantiated and then did it for specific tasks.
        For Europe. it's not gonna go.
        1. loki565
          loki565 3 December 2020 13: 58
          +6
          I agree, if you are shot at water pipes, you make a system against water pipes, only as it will help against "ultra-fast cruise missiles"
        2. Temples
          Temples 3 December 2020 14: 00
          +6
          Another piece of shit thinking about candy.
          Is there really nothing interesting happening in the world except the eruptions of the stupidity of this crazy Swede? request
        3. borberd
          borberd 3 December 2020 16: 03
          +4
          For 15 years now they have been shooting quite themselves with factory "hails", "fajars" and "zilzals" ... of Iranian production. And some have 20-year-old chants about rockets from pipes.
    2. credo
      credo 3 December 2020 13: 57
      +1
      Quote: AVA77
      This defensive network is capable of destroying any missile, perhaps even Russian.
      Cool, let's do it. laughing

      The pain from the lost battle near Poltava, it seems, is already at the genetic level among the Swedes, so the generation of crazy ideas and searches for Russian submarines, soldiers, missiles and other things turned into a fix idea for the Swedes.
      It is possible that the Swede is just a mishandled Cossack who incites the EU to make senseless military spending so that a part of this monetary "pie" goes to Swedish firms, but one thing is clear so far that the Israeli "dome" has not yet experienced missiles on itself a worthy adversary, therefore professionals, not journalists, need to talk about its effectiveness.
      1. lucul
        lucul 3 December 2020 19: 06
        -1
        The pain from the lost battle near Poltava, it looks like the Swedes are already at the genetic level,

        Genetically, the color of the nation of Sweden lies in the ground there, after 300 years it has not been able to recover.
    3. jovanni
      jovanni 3 December 2020 13: 58
      +6
      Quote: AVA77
      This defensive network is capable of destroying any missile, perhaps even Russian.
      Cool, let's do it. laughing

      The word "possible" is especially touching. For some reason I remembered Ostap Bender when he promised - "... Yes, I will, I will! ... Half ... Then ... Maybe."
    4. AVA77
      AVA77 3 December 2020 14: 11
      +3
      There is another simple factor, territory. Territory is money. Who is bashing and who is under a conventional umbrella?
    5. Kuroneko
      Kuroneko 3 December 2020 14: 19
      -1
      Quote: AVA77
      This defensive network is capable of destroying any missile, perhaps even Russian.

      Not on Saturdays.
      And yes, we must also deal with the kosher of Russian missiles. You can't deal with a non-kosher ..
  2. APASUS
    APASUS 3 December 2020 12: 44
    +4
    Nilsson believes that Sweden and other European states should follow the example of Israel, which has created an effective air and missile defense system "Iron Dome", reliably protecting the country from air strikes. This defensive network is capable of destroying any missiles, perhaps even Russian ones,

    There are only a couple, but ......... Israel has been fighting all the time, for the last 40 years, in order for them to have such an air defense system. Who has attacked Europe in the last 70 years? Where are European soldiers fighting now? Forgot Yugoslavia, Libya and others ............... muzzle themselves in fluff, nod at Russians
    1. poquello
      poquello 3 December 2020 13: 20
      -2
      Quote: APASUS
      There are only a couple, but ......... Israel has been fighting all the time, for the last 40 years, in order for them to have such an air defense system. Who has attacked Europe in the last 70 years?

      well, in general, no one really attacked the "dome" either, the Jews learned to defend themselves from Palestinian plumbers - this is not an indicator
    2. Roman070280
      Roman070280 3 December 2020 13: 42
      -9
      Who has attacked Europe in the last 70 years?


      So no one attacked us .. But many people believe that NATO wants to attack Russia ..))
      1. Temples
        Temples 3 December 2020 14: 05
        0
        Quote: Roman070280
        So no one attacked us either.

        Do you go to kindergarten?
        Or was the whole school sick?
        Or did your parents get rid of education?

        Only in the 20th century we were twice attacked by Europe.
        Almost the entire composition.

        Don't want to learn so just listen to what NATO officials have to say.
        1. Roman070280
          Roman070280 3 December 2020 14: 11
          -9
          Do you go to kindergarten?
          Or was the whole school sick?


          Hey there - nursery group ..))
          First you master the primers, then you will ask your mother to type the text for you here ..))

          Who attacked Europe in recent years 70 ?


          They make a mistake, damn it ..))
          1. AVA77
            AVA77 3 December 2020 14: 17
            -1
            What a damn will they give birth to? answer? Well go ahead.
            1. Roman070280
              Roman070280 3 December 2020 14: 23
              -2
              Yes, such as Temples ..))

              Or is it not clear above who we are talking about ??
              1. AVA77
                AVA77 3 December 2020 14: 26
                0
                Unclear? Who are like Temples. Justify.
                1. Roman070280
                  Roman070280 3 December 2020 14: 35
                  -4
                  Such - who did not learn to count up to 70 .. But they climb to be clever about kindergarten and school ..

                  And why are you so dull?)
                  I would read the comments first .. figure it out, and understand everything ..
          2. lucul
            lucul 3 December 2020 19: 20
            0
            Hey there - nursery group ..))
            First you master the primers, then you will ask your mother to type the text for you here ..))

            As soon as I see a post for literacy, I always know that this is God's chosen one. ))))
            1. Roman070280
              Roman070280 4 December 2020 09: 21
              +4
              You can see what is not .. genius ..))
              I don’t write any posts for literacy, and I don’t plan .. but it was about a person's misunderstanding - what is a period of 70 years ..
              At the same time, this, it is not clear by whom the chosen one, undertakes to talk about kindergartens and schools ..))
      2. credo
        credo 3 December 2020 14: 07
        +3
        Quote: Roman070280
        Who has attacked Europe in the last 70 years?


        So no one attacked us .. But many people believe that NATO wants to attack Russia ..))

        Over the past 30 years, the NATO bloc has participated in the aggression against Iraq, Yugoslavia, Libya, Syria, and has also created and is creating numerous military and bacteriological bases and laboratories along the borders of Russia.
        Human brains are given, including in order to think before writing stupid posts.
        1. Roman070280
          Roman070280 3 December 2020 14: 18
          0
          Human brains are given, including in order to think before writing stupid posts.


          It's good that you understand what brains are for .. it's bad that you don't use this knowledge ..))

          I will not be lazy and will drive into my brain what has not reached it by itself ..

          Who attacked to Europe in the last 70 years


          Speech for the last 70 years .. Yes - we did not attack Europe during this period ..

          So on us nobody attacked .. But many people believe that NATO wants to attack Russia ..))


          If you haven't skipped school, then you know - Europe on us also during this period did not attack ..
          How now it dawned on you - I wrote what we actually have in fact ..
          Although for illiterate scribblers - whether to attack nuclear Russia or Iraq - this is the same thing .. just to write to them ..))



          Well, after that, a little more information for those who do not remember why they need brains, and
          believes that NATO wants to attack Russia ..))



          Who needs to fight the slaves who themselves extract and supply oil, gas, timber, gold, etc. for a penny?
          Instead of us, the Portuguese and the Spaniards will come to work here .. who want to receive at the rate of 1 to 90 .. and we, the local aborigines, will have to feed them too ??)

          When people already stop listening to nonsense from TV, open their eyes and look around themselves ..


          PS .. If someone is still raving about the fact that "America wants to seize our resources," why not capture much less protected continents ?? Pralno .. PatamuSTA they get all this and so .. and American blacks are not at all eager to go to their old homeland and work in the mines ..))

          Compared to other regions, Africa is in first place in the number of manganese, gold, diamonds and other mineral raw materials. A huge number of oil and gas fields are the hallmark of the continent.

          Africa accounts for 25 percent of the world's total mining industry. However, almost all mineral raw materials are exported abroad. Fuel is usually exported to countries with a higher standard of living, most often to Europe.
          In the Atlas highlands, reserves of manganese, iron, base metals and phosphorites have been discovered.

          The Egyptian region has oil, gas, iron, titanium and phosphorites.

          In Libya and Algeria, in part of the Sahara Desert, the largest reserves of oil and gas have been discovered.

          The West Guinean part is rich in gold, diamonds, iron, graphite.

          The East Guinea part has reserves of oil, gas and various metals.

          In the Zairian-Zambian region there is one of the largest in the world "Copper Belt", which is saturated with high-quality copper ore, in addition, there is a lot of zinc, cobalt, lead, gold and silver. Zaire is the world's largest supplier of cobalt.

          The most significant area for the extraction of minerals is located on the territory of three states: Botswana, Zimbabwe and South Africa. In these countries, there are deposits of various ore and nonmetallic, as well as fuel minerals, except for oil and gas.
          Thus, the states with large reserves of mineral raw materials include: Algeria, Morocco, Egypt, Gabon, South Africa and Botswana.

          Countries in which deposits of one or two types of minerals exist are: Nigeria, Libya, Mauritania, Angola, Mozambique, Uganda, Angola.
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            1. Roman070280
              Roman070280 3 December 2020 14: 26
              -4
              And you didn't get in the second time ??)

              Don't get excited .. read more thoughtfully ..))

              Who attacked Europe in the last 70 years



              Speech for the last 70 years .. Yes - we did not attack Europe during this period ..

              And so on us nobody attacked .. But many people believe that NATO wants to attack Russia ..))



              If you haven't skipped school, then you know - Europe on us also during this period did not attack ..
              How now it dawned on you - I wrote what we actually have in fact ..
              1. AVA77
                AVA77 3 December 2020 14: 29
                0
                I didn’t get in from the first one, but should I?
                1. Roman070280
                  Roman070280 3 December 2020 14: 30
                  0
                  Yes .. should have ..
                  Above, a friend wrote -
                  Human brains are given, including in order to think


                  So - don't get excited .. read more thoughtfully ..))
                  1. AVA77
                    AVA77 3 December 2020 14: 36
                    -1
                    I read it carefully.
                    Brains are given to everyone from God, but some believe that they are given special elite brains.
                    hi Do not be ill with you.
                    1. Roman070280
                      Roman070280 3 December 2020 14: 41
                      -5
                      some believe that they are given special brains elite.


                      I support !!

                      When you write a completely neutral post, there are sometimes those who, in response, say they are “sick,” “they got rid of school,” and other rudeness ..
                      In such cases, you have to poke a person's nose into his "elitism" ..))

                      Good luck!!
                  2. VORON538
                    VORON538 3 December 2020 14: 39
                    -2
                    I see a new training manual was sent to you, you send your nonsense on all counts
                    Wehrmacht soldiers used to meet people like you
                    And you are already getting ready to welcome NATO members as benefactors!
                    1. Roman070280
                      Roman070280 3 December 2020 14: 49
                      -3
                      you send in all articles

                      Not all, but one wrote - and copied here ..

                      your bullshit
                      Well, you don't hesitate to write your nonsense ..
                      What is nonsense in my words ?? About the course 1 to 90 ?? Or about the resources of the African continent ??
                      I'm sure you can't give anything as an example ..))

                      Wehrmacht soldiers used to meet people like you
                      And you are already preparing meet NATO members as benefactors!


                      It is clear .. I have not read it - but I condemn it ..))

                      PS If anything, in short - it says that no one is going to attack .. because there is no need .. So there could be no talk about "meeting" a priori ..

                      But it was more profitable for you to remember about the Wehrmacht and start associating me with it ..

                      Although what does "like you" mean in relation to Africa and their resources, you also cannot explain ..))
      3. zwlad
        zwlad 3 December 2020 14: 25
        +2
        And that NATO no longer wants to attack Russia? And then why NATO? AAA To save the geyrope from the insidious Russia!
        1. Roman070280
          Roman070280 3 December 2020 14: 32
          -5
          And that NATO no longer wants to attack Russia?


          And what - do they still want ??) Why then don't they attack ??
          70 years old everyone wants to want .. not tired yet ??)


          In order not to write a second time, I will just copy:


          Who needs to fight the slaves who themselves extract and supply oil, gas, timber, gold, etc. for a penny?
          Instead of us, the Portuguese and the Spaniards will come to work here .. who want to receive at the rate of 1 to 90 .. and we, the local aborigines, will have to feed them too ??)

          When people already stop listening to nonsense from TV, open their eyes and look around themselves ..


          PS .. If someone is still raving about the fact that "America wants to seize our resources," why not capture much less protected continents ?? Pralno .. PatamuSTA they get all this and so .. and American blacks are not at all eager to go to their old homeland and work in the mines ..))

          Compared to other regions, Africa is in first place in the number of manganese, gold, diamonds and other mineral raw materials. A huge number of oil and gas fields are the hallmark of the continent.

          Africa accounts for 25 percent of the world's total mining industry. However, almost all mineral raw materials are exported abroad. Fuel is usually exported to countries with a higher standard of living, most often to Europe.
          In the Atlas highlands, reserves of manganese, iron, base metals and phosphorites have been discovered.

          The Egyptian region has oil, gas, iron, titanium and phosphorites.

          In Libya and Algeria, in part of the Sahara Desert, the largest reserves of oil and gas have been discovered.

          The West Guinean part is rich in gold, diamonds, iron, graphite.

          The East Guinea part has reserves of oil, gas and various metals.

          In the Zairian-Zambian region there is one of the largest in the world "Copper Belt", which is saturated with high-quality copper ore, in addition, there is a lot of zinc, cobalt, lead, gold and silver. Zaire is the world's largest supplier of cobalt.

          The most significant area for the extraction of minerals is located on the territory of three states: Botswana, Zimbabwe and South Africa. In these countries, there are deposits of various ore and nonmetallic, as well as fuel minerals, except for oil and gas.
          Thus, the states with large reserves of mineral raw materials include: Algeria, Morocco, Egypt, Gabon, South Africa and Botswana.

          Countries in which deposits of one or two types of minerals exist are: Nigeria, Libya, Mauritania, Angola, Mozambique, Uganda, Angola.
          1. zwlad
            zwlad 3 December 2020 15: 08
            +2
            And what - do they still want ??) Why then don't they attack ??
            70 years old everyone wants to want .. not tired yet ??)

            And you look at what countries were in NATO, well, for example, until 1985. And then look at which ones have entered there by now. So NATO is a military-political bloc.
            If this is not an attack or an occupation, what is it?
            Although you can continue to wear pink glasses. It's your right.
            1. Roman070280
              Roman070280 3 December 2020 16: 10
              +1
              look what countries were in NATO, well, for example, until 1985. And then look at which ones have entered there by now.


              Are we exactly talking about the same thing ??)
              What does this have to do with what I am writing - "NATO does not want to attack Russia"
              And here are some other countries and so on ..
              Well, how many missiles did NATO launch at us before '85 ?? And then??)

              So NATO is a military-political bloc.

              So the grass is green .. Why this information, with which no one argued ??

              If it not an attack or an occupation what is it?
              What is that again ?? Where is the attack on Russia ??) Well, why are you making them idiots .. Well, they want to live .. to live well .. To drown with our gas, refuel with our oil .. We supply all this .. Why should they ATTACK us and die ??)

              Although you can continue to wear pink glasses.
              "pink" I have what ??) The fact that I do not believe that the owner will attack his slave (economically we are in slavery in the West) ??
              1. zwlad
                zwlad 3 December 2020 16: 37
                0
                Are we exactly talking about the same thing ??)

                Apparently about different things.
          2. Alex777
            Alex777 3 December 2020 17: 15
            +1
            And what - do they still want ??) Why then don't they attack ??

            Write a lot of beeches. Are you worried? wink
            1. Russia is directly called the enemy number 1 undermining the world order. This is directly recorded in the US and NATO regulations.
            2. The troops are not prepared for "fighting terrorists", but for a war with a comparable enemy, and missile defense systems are deployed in Europe.
            3. All arms control treaties have been canceled.
            4. A base in Crimea, why did the States want it, what was so upset when it broke off?
            5. The US national debt cannot be closed without war.
            None of the above happened 10 years ago. hi
      4. APASUS
        APASUS 3 December 2020 14: 53
        +1
        Quote: Roman070280
        So no one attacked us .. But many people believe that NATO wants to attack Russia ..))

        What do you want to convince us of the peace-loving Americans? There is a basic military law, a strategy for the state, and we are the main threat there. Moreover, the conditions for the use of nuclear weapons are very vague there.
        The US military strategy adopted in February 2018 identifies countries such as North Korea, China, Russia, and Iran as the main competitors of the United States. At the same time, Washington reserves the right to use nuclear weapons in response even to a non-nuclear attack, if it is necessary to protect "the vital interests of the country, its allies and partners."


        Details: https://regnum.ru/news/polit/2527319.html
        Any use of materials is allowed only if there is a hyperlink to REGNUM.
        1. Roman070280
          Roman070280 3 December 2020 15: 11
          -7
          What do you want to convince us of

          The fact that no NATO is going to attack us, will not, and they do not need it at all .. This is, in short ..

          In more detail, I've already written above twice.

          in the peacefulness of the Americans?

          Why such tricks ?? In one phrase, you ask a question about what you did not understand .. and immediately bring your conjectures on my behalf ..
          I never wrote about their peacefulness .. I wrote that they are not stupid ..

          we are the main threat there

          Understood nothing..))
          Okay .. let us be the main threat to America ..
          Does this somehow mean that NATO wants to attack us ??

          Washington reserves the right to use nuclear weapons in reply even non-nuclear нападение,

          And what's wrong with that ?? They'll hit back .. of course ..

          The conversation was about the opposite, they said .. they say they want to attack US ..

          So no one attacked us (over the past 70 years) .. But many people believe that NATO wants to attack Russia ..))
          - what in general in this mill you need to convince someone ?? Where is there even one wrong word ??)

          Shl .. but someone has even added to you ..))
          1. VORON538
            VORON538 3 December 2020 15: 21
            +2
            In addition to direct military confrontation, there are many more ways of waging war.
            And it must not be denied that the states that are members of NATO are waging an economic and information war against Russia, various conflicts in the countries of the former USSR, with the participation of instructors from NATO countries
            None of the NATO in general or individually wants to go to a direct confrontation, it is fraught
            And you are just one of their units on the information war field
            1. Roman070280
              Roman070280 3 December 2020 16: 03
              -1
              In addition to direct military confrontation, there are many more ways of waging war.


              Right!!!!!
              I also wrote - what a fool would climb up to fight with us (with a nuclear weapons country - this is immediately the road to heaven), if they already have so much from us economically that we ourselves could not dream of it ..

              И do not denythat NATO member states are leading against Russia economic and informational the war


              Here again, we invent it ourselves, write .. and argue ..))

              direct opposition to go none of the NATO in total or singly doesn't want- fraught


              Here is word for word repeated what I originally wrote ..))

              And you are just one of their units on the information war field


              I'm not at war with anyone at all.))

              This is where local adherents are all preparing for war with NATO .. ​​(in fact, the article itself is apchem) .. I just tried to convey that we didn't give up to any NATO to seize us, risk going to heaven, and even then feed us (after the seizure) ..
              We are already pumping everything to them ourselves - we are already captured economically ..
              1. poquello
                poquello 3 December 2020 19: 08
                +1
                Quote: Roman070280
                This is where local adherents are all preparing for a war with NATO.

                prepare properly, "prepare the sleigh in the summer .."
                Quote: Roman070280
                we didn't give up to any NATO

                yes, yes, they strive for freedom of navigation)))))))))))
                Quote: Roman070280
                We are already pumping everything to them ourselves - we are already captured economically ..

                end communist nonsense, resources are sold
        2. Avior
          Avior 3 December 2020 17: 09
          +1
          Sorry to interrupt, but the military doctrine of Russia also records the right to use nuclear weapons first.
          . 27. The Russian Federation reserves the right to use nuclear weapons in response to the use of nuclear and other types of weapons of mass destruction against it and (or) its allies, as well as in the case of aggression against the Russian Federation using conventional weapons, when the very existence is jeopardized state.

          The decision on the use of nuclear weapons is made by the President of the Russian Federation.
  3. Orange bigg
    Orange bigg 3 December 2020 12: 45
    +3
    Business. Even the Balts are trying to breed. Although they need these systems like a goat of the dungeons. The population is constantly pouring out of the Baltics, but still they decided to squeeze out the last juices.
    1. Terenin
      Terenin 3 December 2020 12: 50
      +7
      Quote: OrangeBigg
      Business

      Absolutely.
      And, the most profitable business is war.
      1. cniza
        cniza 3 December 2020 12: 54
        +7
        Greetings! hi
        They were too carried away by it, so as not to lose everything ...
        1. Pete mitchell
          Pete mitchell 3 December 2020 13: 33
          +6
          Quote: OrangeBigg
          They are already trying to breed even the Balts. Although they need these systems like a goat of boyan.

          Quote: cniza
          They were too carried away by it, so as not to lose everything ...

          Uh no, they have been bred for grandmothers, like the whole of Eastern Europe, since the collapse of the Union. Kind overseas uncles invited them all to join the Regioanal Airspace Initiative program: you have old airspace control systems - we are modernizing everything, even throwing a little bit ... In principle, they threw equipment for 10 lamas for each country: then other good ones appeared and offered to buy radars , the purchase of one beats off the investment - they sold a lot more: the Romanians five pieces each 16.
          Quote: OrangeBigg
          Business.

          Well, by the way, all this economy feeds information from the air defense of Western Europe.
          So this is a long time ago, just a new round - you don't need a knife on a fool, you can't sing along to him and do with him ...
          1. cniza
            cniza 3 December 2020 15: 25
            +4
            Uh no, they have been bred for grandmothers, like the whole of Eastern Europe, since the collapse of the Union.


            It seems to me that not only the eastern ... Greetings! hi
            1. Pete mitchell
              Pete mitchell 3 December 2020 15: 52
              +3
              Welcome hi certainly not only; topic - unplowed field. Why do people often think of air defense / missile defense? This is where the creation of a military infrastructure begins, which, with its information flows, is woven into the systems of the “senior partners”. We already see attempts to create joint military universities, squadrons ... Airspace surveillance systems move the detection line away from the air defense of Western Europe and increase their reaction time: information from the radar will cease to flow, say in Estonia - turn on the stopwatch. The naive think and convince their residents that this is necessary for protection and defense ... nonsense, nobody cares about their welfare.
      2. Al_lexx
        Al_lexx 3 December 2020 13: 12
        +2
        Quote: Terenin
        And, the most profitable business is war.

        In fourth place, it shares with the oil industry.
        The first is banking.
        The second is pharmaceuticals.
        The third is drugs.
        1. Dym71
          Dym71 3 December 2020 13: 29
          +2
          Quote: Al_lexx
          In fourth place, it shares with the oil industry.

          Take a look at the topic wider
          "All mine," said gold;
          "All mine," said damask steel.
          “I’ll buy everything,” said gold;
          “I'll take it all,” said damask steel.
          1. Al_lexx
            Al_lexx 4 December 2020 13: 23
            0
            I do not argue. But this is something else.
  4. cniza
    cniza 3 December 2020 12: 53
    +5
    Gather everyone you can and build the Baltic Dome to protect us from new missile threats. Hire Israelis as experts. This will not only improve our mindset, but it will also turn the balance of power between democracies and the Russian regime.


    Funny, but psychosis is bad ...
    1. rocket757
      rocket757 3 December 2020 13: 24
      +4
      Funny? Scared to .... the limits are not visible, where further then.
      1. cniza
        cniza 3 December 2020 13: 29
        +8
        Yes, they knock out money for the military-industrial complex and no more ...
        1. rocket757
          rocket757 3 December 2020 14: 23
          +2
          Wanting babosikov, this is already trite .... they have long-term goals and certainly not in our favor.
          1. cniza
            cniza 3 December 2020 15: 27
            +3
            There are, of course, they are seriously working against us, and between business and money to earn extra money ...
            1. rocket757
              rocket757 3 December 2020 16: 59
              +2
              Quote: cniza
              between business and money to earn extra money ...

              Money, as usual, is a simplified / convenient expression of the available, available resources ...
              There will be a struggle for resources and the one who has them in abundance should take great care to PROTECT and PROTECT them !!!
              Those. we will certainly not be allowed to live in peace.
              1. cniza
                cniza 3 December 2020 17: 02
                +4
                No, we will never have peace, so we need to do our own thing without fuss and fear ...
                1. rocket757
                  rocket757 3 December 2020 17: 04
                  +1
                  Build up your strength! Fortunately, we have resources .... we rationally, use them correctly.
                  1. cniza
                    cniza 3 December 2020 17: 09
                    +3
                    And not to get caught up in the arms race, but on the principle of sufficiency at every stage.
                    1. rocket757
                      rocket757 3 December 2020 17: 25
                      0
                      Innovative developments, scientific research, new technologies are the basis for the development and power of any state!
                      Without them, nothing and nowhere.
                      1. cniza
                        cniza 3 December 2020 17: 27
                        +2
                        The main thing is not to stop there ...
      2. faiver
        faiver 3 December 2020 13: 37
        +5
        only now they scare themselves, Europe as a woman - she invented herself, she herself was offended laughing
        1. Roman070280
          Roman070280 3 December 2020 13: 44
          -5
          And we have fewer or less intimidated NATO ..))
          1. faiver
            faiver 3 December 2020 13: 45
            +2
            I don't know, there is no one in my circle who is afraid of NATO
            1. Roman070280
              Roman070280 3 December 2020 14: 01
              -5
              In my, in general, too ..))
              But here half of the articles and comments are on the topic of the war with NATO .. ​​and from the box we constantly listen to it ..
              1. faiver
                faiver 3 December 2020 14: 04
                0
                don't listen to the box, it's not worth it
                1. VORON538
                  VORON538 3 December 2020 15: 25
                  0
                  Liberda constantly blames the "zomboyaschik" and "duroscope", but she is always aware of what they say, they spy on the sly, although they swear by their mother that the TV set was thrown away for 20 years!
                  So who watches him more?
  5. lucul
    lucul 3 December 2020 12: 54
    +2
    Russia plunged Europe into a state of "strategic depression":

    Moscow managed to intimidate everyone and create an atmosphere of strategic depression in Europe. Now almost everywhere is mourning.

    According to the author, the Europeans have something to fear, because Russian missiles can be launched from small installations at a distance of up to two thousand kilometers.

    Less than a couple of years later, the Europeans "got it"))))
  6. Terenin
    Terenin 3 December 2020 12: 55
    +6
    ... This defensive network is capable of destroying any missile possibly, Russian, according to the author.
    Correctly made an emphasis on "possible".
  7. Al Asad
    Al Asad 3 December 2020 12: 55
    +6
    The fact that the "Iron Dome" is a short-range air defense system does not bother anyone.
    Jews will rub their hands in such a situation
    1. borberd
      borberd 3 December 2020 16: 20
      -1
      So we also have Strela-1,2,3 in case the radius of protection of the area of ​​150 km is not suitable for one battery of the Dome. And yes, of course we will rub our hands laughing ... Many years ago, when Israel was developing unmanned aircraft, many talked about why we need money for aircraft models. Now they are frantically trying to catch up.
  8. newcomer
    newcomer 3 December 2020 12: 58
    +5
    Question 1: when did the RF / USSR have no effective missiles?
    2: where and how did Nilsson spot the Yankee passivity?
    3: to create air defense / PRO_ZYAS by ourselves? ("backward" Russia offered you a European missile defense system);
    4: Will pouring "Euro-democracy" by Israeli experts improve your mindset? So your way of thinking has been flawed until now, and you admit it? You may not be experts in missile defense, but rather political strategists?
    This Nilsson lobbies well for the export of the Israeli military-industrial complex.
    1. ccsr
      ccsr 3 December 2020 13: 14
      +4
      Quote: newbie
      This Nilsson lobbies well for the export of the Israeli military-industrial complex.

      Quite right, because if the Europeans really need to learn about the technologies for the production of anti-missile systems, then they'd better turn to the Americans or to us, at worst.
      As for the military-industrial complex of Israel, here at VO one citizen of this country boasted of how many people they work in it. I figured it out and it turned out that we have more specialists working in the creation of one ship than in the entire Israeli military-industrial complex. Naturally, their capabilities in the creation of high-tech weapons immediately become clear.
      1. newcomer
        newcomer 3 December 2020 13: 31
        +1
        Why "at worst"? Just the same in air defense / missile defense systems we have something to shut everyone up. Yes, and at the moment we already control half of Europe with our missile defense systems, close all business! The only question is in the Europeans themselves. Well, the specialists, yes, it's mine, because the ships are different.
        1. ccsr
          ccsr 3 December 2020 13: 55
          +1
          Quote: newbie
          Why "at worst"?

          It was sarcasm - the US would never let them do that.
          Quote: newbie
          The only question is in the Europeans themselves.

          There now, even without anti-missile defense systems, hemorrhoids are higher than the roof - one covid has put everyone on their ears, so they will sooner come running to us for a vaccine.
          1. newcomer
            newcomer 3 December 2020 14: 03
            +1
            So by itself. It would be strange for us to make for them European missile defense from our missiles. This is all politics, or rather the absence thereof, Eurekis perform sonatas from Washington.
  9. askort154
    askort154 3 December 2020 13: 01
    +1
    He invites the Europeans to create their own "Baltic Dome", using the Israeli experience for this.

    Well, where will this "Baltic Dome" be located? Above, or below the "American roof"?
  10. Runoway
    Runoway 3 December 2020 13: 01
    +5
    The Jews have already paid him for the campaign laughing
    In fact, it all started with the ABM system and the cancellation of all treaties.
  11. Avior
    Avior 3 December 2020 13: 03
    +3
    The Swedish journalist decided to intercept Stephen King's laurels.
    More Hell in publications!
    ... “The authorities of European countries began to think differently. They have lost strategic freedom, fear the big world, and have nightmares about how Russians are ruling their democracies with insidious influence operations. Moscow managed to intimidate everyone and create an atmosphere of strategic depression in Europe. Now there is mourning and crying almost everywhere, ”writes Dagens Industri author Peter Magnus Nilsson.

    Imagination draws crowds of crying Europeans in front of the Russian embassies smile
    I hope the author has agreed in advance and will receive a small share of the supplies of the Israeli-American missile defense systems advertised by him? It would be logical ...
  12. Alien From
    Alien From 3 December 2020 13: 05
    +2
    The territory of Israel and the territory of Europe .... hmm, no one has enough money.
  13. HAM
    HAM 3 December 2020 13: 10
    +2
    Why in the West "life according to concepts" is called "democracy" ??
    "Pahan" is (USA), who must protect his vassals and "sixes" .... there are more than enough sixes, well, and the rest of the "birds" are enough ... "Pahan" behaves passively .. well, well, they want hot phases in Europe? "Pahan" will suit ...
  14. Ros 56
    Ros 56 3 December 2020 13: 12
    +2
    Comrade Nilsson, let's suggest that Israel try it in practice, we are beating, they are defending themselves, so check the quality of their dome, otherwise the Jews can deceive, they will become. lol
  15. voyaka uh
    voyaka uh 3 December 2020 13: 15
    0
    Aegis is more suitable for Europe than Israeli systems. Israel covers up its small territory. But financially and technologically, Europeans will not pull systems like Aegis now.
    1. poquello
      poquello 3 December 2020 13: 28
      +5
      Quote: voyaka uh
      Aegis is more suitable for Europe than Israeli systems. Israel covers up its small territory. But financially and technologically, Europeans will not pull systems like Aegis now.

      Aegis is a system for evacuating American soldiers in Iraq when Iranian missiles are fired?
    2. Dym71
      Dym71 3 December 2020 13: 34
      +6
      Quote: voyaka uh
      Europe is more likely to fit Aegis

      Alexey, look at the comments of the Swedes under the article of Magnus Nilsson, their immigration worries, not air defense - missile defense yes
      https://www.di.se/ledare/bygg-en-baltic-dome/
    3. The comment was deleted.
      1. voyaka uh
        voyaka uh 3 December 2020 14: 34
        -4
        "Aegis Can Protect the Ship" ///
        ----
        Aegis's main mission is to intercept medium-range ballistic missiles.
        But it is now being expanded to cover the entire spectrum: from operational-tactical ballistic missiles to ICBMs.
        Its advantage is that it transfers the characteristics of the BR trajectory to several
        ships at the same time. And they manage to consistently launch missile defense missiles
        in turn. If the first one misses, the next one insures. Interception chances
        increase. In such a structure - a "grid" of ships - Aegis is already able to cover
        significant territories, parts of states.
  16. rocket757
    rocket757 3 December 2020 13: 16
    +5
    an effective air and missile defense system "Iron Dome", reliably protecting the country from air strikes. This defensive network is capable of destroying any missiles, perhaps even Russian ones, according to the author.

    Here is Pug, she knows ...... and you can ask about the author, is he just stupid or a complete mess?
    Just to say what they paid for, then wrote it does not explain anything.
    How not to explain beyond the bumpy that Russia does not start the war, it ends them !!!
    1. cniza
      cniza 3 December 2020 13: 31
      +5
      This is not easy, this is work for the military-industrial complex corporation, well, add psychosis to the population ...
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 3 December 2020 14: 26
        +1
        Babosiki go to war, it's a bottomless black hole! And questions from a layman are not desirable for the military!
        1. cniza
          cniza 3 December 2020 15: 28
          +2
          Someone has a hole, someone has a wallet, and the population is scared to the point ...
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 3 December 2020 17: 02
            +2
            Yes, there are smart guys who will climb into any hole and fuck from there!
            They mask the hole from the man in the street, embellish it and, of course, intimidate, no one poked an extra nose there.
            1. cniza
              cniza 3 December 2020 17: 07
              +2
              The wrong person will never get access to the wrong place, and even more so, the average person will never get access, there will not even be information ...
  17. Berkut752
    Berkut752 3 December 2020 13: 23
    +2
    This defensive network is capable of destroying any missile, perhaps even Russian.
    Let them ask the Jews HOW EFFECTIVE IS the "Iron Dome" AGAINST REAL MISSILES, the Palestinians do not "bullet" with rockets
    1. poquello
      poquello 3 December 2020 13: 36
      +4
      Quote: Berkut752
      This defensive network is capable of destroying any missile, perhaps even Russian.
      Let them ask the Jews HOW EFFECTIVE IS the "Iron Dome" AGAINST REAL MISSILES, the Palestinians do not "bullet" with rockets

      quiet backers versus. Nevertheless, the dome is full of holes, no matter what they say.
    2. Vitaly gusin
      Vitaly gusin 3 December 2020 14: 01
      -1
      Quote: Berkut752
      This defensive network is capable of destroying any missile, perhaps even Russian.

      The problem is that the system does not ask for the origin, it destroys the target at an altitude above 100 km. and at a distance of 2400 km.

      But this will not be sold to them, this is only for Israel.
      Quote: Berkut752
      Let them ask the Jews HOW EFFECTIVE "Iron Dome" is

      And the Jews will answer.
      That this system saved more than one hundred civilians from death.
      And that "Iron Dome" is close cover with a proven effectiveness of 80-90%, much more any another existing system in WORLD
      1. Lt. Air Force stock
        Lt. Air Force stock 3 December 2020 14: 32
        +2
        How will the system help against modern weapons? Israel mostly intercepts primitive unguided rockets. And if we take the same Caliber, which has a low ESR, a low flight profile and probably has electronic warfare equipment (the Americans have Tomahawks with electronic warfare equipment going to the troops). How will the system cope with a group target of, say, 100 calibers, intercept? I doubt.
        1. Avior
          Avior 3 December 2020 17: 22
          +2
          Israel intercepts massive ballistic missile launches.
          And the caliber is winged.
          1. aszzz888
            aszzz888 4 December 2020 03: 18
            -3

            Avior (Sergey)
            Yesterday, 17: 22

            +2
            Israel intercepts massive ballistic missile launches.
            Moreover, all 100%)) laughing laughing laughing
            1. Avior
              Avior 4 December 2020 03: 34
              +3
              at 100 no one ever hits the target
              Defeat is always probabilistic
        2. Vitaly gusin
          Vitaly gusin 3 December 2020 18: 57
          +2
          Quote: Lt. air force reserve
          How will the system help against modern weapons?

          Judging by your question, you do not understand what you are asking about.
          In Israel there three-level air defense protection.
          The first level, "Iron Dome: from rockets and mortar shells and cruise missiles, at a distance of 70 km, which will soon be supplemented by the" Laser Sword "system.
          The second level, the system "David's Sling" distance from 70 to 300 km.
          Third level, Strelka 2 and Strelka 3 systems from 400 to 2500 km.
          Quote: Lt. air force reserve
          And if let's take the same Caliber, which has a low RCS, low flight profile

          Quote: Lt. air force reserve
          How will the system cope with a group target of, say, 100 calibers, intercept?

          The iron dome is also designed for such purposes, its radar based on a phased active array, capable of tracking and issuing target designation for ultra-small targets with an effective scattering surface (ESR) of about 0,01-0,02 sq. m, and also have a high-performance digital computer capable of simultaneously determining the degree of threat from each of several tens of incoming shells or cruise missiles by calculating the trajectory and point of impact of the latter.
          Well, if you take the same "Caliber", that would release them at the same time 100 units, while this is in theory and today the accuracy of their guidance wants to be better. Israel has built its air defense missile defense system to defend against attack. To retaliate, there are all the means to calm any aggressor.
          1. aszzz888
            aszzz888 4 December 2020 03: 17
            -4

            Vitaly Gusin (Vitaly Gusin)
            Yesterday, 18: 57The Iron Dome is intended ...
            etc. and so on ... Tired of reading about its uselessness, don't bother here! laughing tongue laughing
      2. poquello
        poquello 3 December 2020 14: 41
        +2
        Quote: Vitaly Gusin
        And that "Iron Dome" is close cover with a proven efficiency of 80-90%, significantly more than any other existing system in the WORLD

        )))))))))))))))))))))))
        but you do not accidentally have statistics of attacking objects on the dome and on the base in Khmeinim during its existence, I wanted to compare something
      3. aszzz888
        aszzz888 4 December 2020 03: 21
        -3

        Vitaly Gusin (Vitaly Gusin)
        Yesterday, 14: 01
        And that "Iron Dome" is close cover with a proven efficiency of 80-90%, significantly larger than any other existing system in the WORLD
        laughing laughing laughing said one Jew!
  18. Merry_Militarist
    Merry_Militarist 3 December 2020 13: 25
    0
    What? Jews still make a good deal, stuffing their pockets with shekels in exchange for heated fears.
    Although, as you know, God takes care of the saved. You never know the grandfather wants to fight.
  19. Cowbra
    Cowbra 3 December 2020 13: 54
    +2
    The dome - this one that recently slept through the missile strike on Ashkelon? Well, just in pair with the Patriots, who do not shoot down anything - it will go)))
    1. Vitaly gusin
      Vitaly gusin 3 December 2020 14: 24
      -2
      Quote: Cowbra
      The dome - this one that recently slept through the missile strike on Ashkelon?

      It happens that he slept, but then woke up.
      AND THESE ARE THESE, WILL NEVER WAKE UP NEVER!
      1. Cowbra
        Cowbra 3 December 2020 14: 49
        -3
        Peremoga, let's face it! Unarmed, on whom God will send - they can kill, phosphorus or cluster bombs, or you can immediately thermobaric in residential cities, as in Lebanon. But they even get homemade rockets.

        PiSi: it was an Israeli patrol, adnaka.
        And even if it arrives in Europe, it will not use a water pipe with saltpeter, "kumpol" will not help, since it does not help from pipes either
        1. borberd
          borberd 3 December 2020 16: 41
          +3
          Wow, in one post collected the best pearls of hurray-patriots.
          By the way, you can find a lot of such pictures according to you, but hardly any of the Israelis will sink to this ...
          1. Cowbra
            Cowbra 3 December 2020 17: 20
            -3
            Is your ministry of truth late? Look, Biden will disperse you a second time, once already dispersed for stupidity ...
            1. borberd
              borberd 3 December 2020 18: 17
              -1
              You were not dispersed. Even the list of words you use is one to one like that of your other employees. Don't burn too much. lol
              1. Cowbra
                Cowbra 3 December 2020 18: 33
                -3
                And I don’t obey Biden, this is your boss - overseas, and even with dementia
                1. borberd
                  borberd 3 December 2020 18: 42
                  0
                  Of course you obey, not Biden of course, your local ..., the one who runs the trolls. You even have the same vocabulary - "unarmed barmaley", "white phosphorus", "carpet bombing", "flying pipes", "leaky dome", and other nonsense. And this ... I am more impressed by Trump, and not this walking alzheimer's.
        2. aszzz888
          aszzz888 4 December 2020 03: 13
          -1

          Cowbra
          Yesterday, 14: 49
          ... And even if it arrives in Europe, it will not use a water pipe with saltpeter, "kumpol" will not help, if he does not help from pipes either
          From the word "ALL !!!!" wink ... That's why tovarisChi are furious here .... their advertising system)) laughing kumpol is not needed by anyone except the Jews themselves. Driven to utter uselessness laughing trying to vtyuhat piece of iron to someone else.
      2. Fungus
        Fungus 3 December 2020 15: 03
        -2
        It is not necessary to bombard the Syrian air defense with missiles. In addition, their operators are not very convinced of this. And your holey dome is being sucked away with handicraft pipes.
      3. aszzz888
        aszzz888 4 December 2020 03: 05
        -1

        Vitaly Gusin (Vitaly Gusin)
        Yesterday, 14: 24

        -5
        Quote: Cowbra
        The dome - this one that recently slept through the missile strike on Ashkelon?

        It happens that he slept, but then woke up.
        No, you still sleep! laughing tongue laughing laudatory eagerly with snot posts about the iron kumpol - read, and saw its complete inability! tongue bind what target - maybe ten times, and will not miss! laughing tongue laughing
    2. aszzz888
      aszzz888 4 December 2020 03: 15
      -1

      Cowbra
      Yesterday, 13: 54
      +4
      The dome is the one that recently slept through a missile strike on Ashkelon? Well, just in pair with the Patriots who do not shoot down anything - it will go)))
      Not once, and not the last time! wink
  20. Igor Borisov_2
    Igor Borisov_2 3 December 2020 14: 12
    -2
    He argues that by the very fact of possessing effective missile weapons, Russia plunged Europe into a state of "strategic depression":


    As a resident of the Kaliningrad region, I am plunged into a state of depression that two branches of the Nord Stream passed us by and none of them turned into the Baltic Sea Fleet Baltiysk ...
  21. FC Rostov
    FC Rostov 3 December 2020 14: 26
    0
    Can Blast Dome
  22. Jacket in stock
    Jacket in stock 3 December 2020 14: 37
    +1
    Oh, these ignorant journalists.
    If only something to blur.
    And there ... the clever will keep silent, the fool will not guess.
  23. Dikson
    Dikson 3 December 2020 14: 57
    -2
    And the Israelis cannot eat straight, - everyone thinks how they can cover a gypsy bum from all sorts of Middle Eastern refugees from evil Russia, who is habitually called Europe, right? Although, if they pay good money ... they will surely deliver an analogue of the Iron Dome ..
  24. orionvitt
    orionvitt 3 December 2020 15: 43
    +1
    Moscow managed to intimidate everyone
    It is not clear who it was Russia intimidated there. Perhaps those who are themselves shy from birth. Or those who have a snout in the cannon and who understand perfectly well that the "missile strike" from Russia has already been said and done. So before doing something, you had to think with your head on whom you were pulling. So let them shake
  25. Old26
    Old26 3 December 2020 17: 23
    +4
    Quote: loki565
    This defensive network is capable of destroying any missile, perhaps even Russian.
    Cool, let's do

    But so far it has been tested on rockets made of pipes and it copes with them with varying success)))

    Hamas and Hezbollah no longer have missiles made from tubes ...
  26. Smirnoff
    Smirnoff 3 December 2020 22: 29
    +16
    Did the Swedish journalist get paid for advertising? After all, Europe also has good air defense systems.
  27. aszzz888
    aszzz888 4 December 2020 02: 59
    -1
    Sweden and other European states should follow the example of Israel, which has created an effective air and missile defense system, the Iron Dome, reliably protecting the country from air strikes.
    laughing laughing laughing Maybe it's better to put the Zulu archers on rations ?! laughing laughing True, you have to spend money on their warm clothes, but everything is better than иVREYsky full of holes iron cumpol! laughing laughing tongue laughing laughing
  28. TSUNAMI 7
    TSUNAMI 7 4 December 2020 10: 14
    0
    From here, guys, our Motherland dictates its adamant will to the rest of the world community.
    ―Could we bang?
    ―We will definitely bang. And more than once. The whole world is in dust. But then...