Military Review

Is there a problem of peacekeepers in Transnistria

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Source: Russian Ministry of Defense, structure.mil.ru


The noise raised in the media in connection with the statement of the President-elect of Moldova Maia Sandu, in my opinion, testifies to the very short memory of journalists. You watch the speech of any political scientist, expert or journalist and you get the feeling that he heard about the Russian peacekeepers in the PMR for the first time only after the election of Sandu. Meanwhile, the issue of peacekeepers is raised there in certain circles no less than the issue of, for example, Nagorno-Karabakh or Georgia.

The last such exacerbation was not so long ago, in 2018. Then several countries even initiated the adoption of a UN General Assembly resolution on the need to withdraw peacekeepers from the territory of Transnistria. The noise was very loud. Only now, the result was zilch. The General Assembly resolution is just a recommendatory decision. And the peacekeepers were brought there by the decision of the UN Security Council, which is binding on all UN member states.

To understand where, why and when peacekeepers appeared in the Pridnestrovian Moldavian Republic, it is necessary to look into our recent past. Such a view will help answer many questions of those who were not yet interested in this at that time due to their youth or lack of interest.

A brief excursion into the history of the issue


The reason for the emergence of the Pridnestrovian Moldavian Republic (in the Moldavian version of the Dniester Moldavian Republic) was the parade of sovereignties proclaimed by Gorbachev. Realizing that the goal of Moldova in the future will be to join Romania, the population of Transnistria at the 2nd Extraordinary Congress of Deputies of all levels (Tiraspol, September 2, 1990) proclaims the creation of the Transnistrian Moldavian SSR.

Under pressure from the party leadership of neighboring Ukraine and Moldova, on December 22, 1990, President Gorbachev issued a decree "On measures to normalize the situation in the SSR Moldova", in which he canceled the decisions of the Tiraspol congress on September 2.

On August 25, 1991, the TMSSR adopted the "Declaration of Independence of the TMSSR". In response to this, on August 27, 1991, Moldova adopted Law No. 691 “On Declaration of Independence”, in which the decision of August 25 was declared null and void. On November 5, 1991, in connection with the beginning of the collapse of the USSR, the TMSSR was renamed into the PMR.

Here it is necessary to clarify why a part of Moldova began to claim independence? Although for those who remember the 90s, there should not be such a question. How many problems did Russia have with Tatarstan and other autonomous republics?

For its long history Transnistria belonged to several states at once. Initially, in the early Middle Ages, the Ulic Slavs and Tivertsy lived on this territory together with the Polovtsy and Pechenegs nomads. Then Transnistria passed to different owners. The Golden Horde, the Crimean Khanate, the Galicia-Volyn principality of Russia, the Grand Duchy of Lithuania, the Lesser Poland Province of the Polish Crown, the Hetmanate, the Commonwealth, the Russian Empire (according to the Yassky Peace Treaty of January 9, 1792).

As you can see, the Pridnestrovians had enough legal, or rather, historical reasons for the formation of their own state. And in the Soviet period, Transnistria had nothing to do with Moldova. Until 1940, created by Grigory Kotovsky, the Moldavian Autonomous SSR was part of the Ukrainian SSR. By the way, according to many historians, it was in the MASSR that the idea of ​​Moldova as an independent state was born.

Why Pridnestrovie is the "big brother" of Donbass


What happened in the 90s in Transnistria is largely repeated today in Ukraine. Already in the late 80s - early 90s, the Moldovan intelligentsia began to actively advocate for the annexation of Moldova to Romania. This is done under the slogan "One people - one state." Naturally, the east of the country, inhabited mainly by Ukrainians, Russians, Armenians and other peoples of the USSR, did not agree with these ideas.

In 1988, the Popular Front of Moldova, an anti-Russian nationalist organization, began to form and become more active. At the same time, the slogan “We are Romanians - and that's it” appeared on the front pages of many Moldovan newspapers.

And then, for those who know the modern history of Ukraine, everything follows a template. On February 16, 1989, on behalf of the Writers' Union of Moldova, a draft law "On the functioning of languages ​​in the territory of the Moldavian SSR" was published. The main essence of this bill was that Moldovan became the state language, and for teaching Russian to schoolchildren, for the use of Russian in state institutions, at enterprises, etc. administrative and even criminal penalties were imposed.

On September 1, 1989, this law ("On the Functioning of Languages ​​on the Territory of the Moldavian SSR") was adopted by the Parliament and is still in force.

The counter-movement arose in Transnistria. Public organizations opposed the translation of the Moldovan language into Latin and for the introduction of two state languages. At the same time, in response to the creation of the “Popular Front of Moldrva”, the “Interdivision” was created there (later called “Unitate-Unity”).

Then, again, knowing how it happened in Ukraine, it is necessary to create a manual parliament. Remember "Suitcase-Station-Russia"? This is just from that time. Only with the addition of "Russians for the Dniester, Jews for the Dniester". There was a minority in the new parliament of Pridnestrovians, but this minority was constantly threatened and beaten. Isn't it Ukrainian lustration? Ultimately, the deputies returned home without finishing the session.

And in Chisinau, marches have already been held demanding to go to Tiraspol and Bender. One of the marches to "calm down" Gagauzia, which also declared its independence, even took place. On September 6, 1991 in Transnistria, the formation of its own military units began to counterbalance the Moldovan ones.

The blood that still boils


Little is said about the beginning of the hot phase of the conflict. History (as well as the beginning of the conflict in the Donbass) is being rewritten and turns into a completely indigestible mishmash of fiction. Meanwhile, everything began in Dubossary on November 2, 1990. It was then that the Moldovan nationalists, with the support of the OPON of Moldova, arrived to cleanse the city from the separatists.

The OPON column was stopped by local residents and police officers at the bridge. The Moldovan side today tells about the employees of the local police department of the fairy tale, as overtrained and equipped fighters. Alas, only 135 cadets of the local police school under the leadership of 8 officers of the same school came forward to help local residents. Agree, the capital's OPON against the cadet boys does not look like a weakling at all.

By two o'clock in the afternoon, people gathered on the streets of Dubossary, by the way, at the signal of the GO sirens. A living wall stood on the streets of the city and did not allow OPON and nationalists to enter the city. The confrontation was all over the city. Naturally, in such a situation, the attackers need to intimidate the defenders. Which was done at 15:30. The defenders opened fire from machine guns. The result is three dead and 9 wounded.

Sacred sacrifices worked the other way around. The defenders of the city not only were not afraid, but also began to prepare to strike at OPON at night. The command became aware of this, and the police simply fled the city. The same thing happened at the checkpoints, which were organized by OPON along the way.

So, at one of the police posts, women were chased away, who came from the nearest village and with a rake drove out the "servants of law and order" from their native land. And the men from the village of Dzerzhinskoe just gathered to take the post in the ring and disarm the police. Upon learning of this, the police fled to a nearby town.

I will not talk about the numerous clashes that took place after Dubossary. Anyone interested in this can easily find materials on that war. The scheme of the war is also about the same as in the Donbass. Point operations and sniper. Both sides successfully wrested weapons and military equipment from units of the 14th Army. Moldovans intimidated civilians by shelling villages from cannon and rocket artillery.

The Russian 14th army, despite the fact that units and subunits were often attacked from both sides, despite the loss of personnel, remained strictly neutral and did not participate in the conflict. True, it should be recognized that some units, consisting of local residents, went over to the side of Transnistria, took the oath and acted as combat units of the republic's defenders.

In addition, volunteers from Russia and other republics of the former USSR began to arrive in Transnistria (again, an analogy with Donbass). Russia could no longer stand on the sidelines of the conflict and on July 7, 1992, representatives of Moscow arrived in Transnistria to resolve the conflict. The Moldovan government resigned and on July 21 an agreement was signed “On the principles of the settlement of the armed conflict in the Transnistrian region of the Republic of Moldova”.

Peacekeepers and an operational group of Russian troops in Transnistria


In fact, the 14th army in many ways, even participating in the conflict, performed peacekeeping functions in Transnistria back in 1992. This is the opinion of the citizens of the unrecognized republic. That is why the Republic annually celebrates the Day of the Entry of the Russian Peacekeeping Forces on July 29. The agreement mentioned above made it possible to do this officially. Thus, this year marks the 28th anniversary of the Russian peacekeeping mission in the region.

Strange, but for many readers is news the fact that the MS in Transnistria consist not only of Russian servicemen, but also of Moldovan and Transnistrian ones. As well as the fact that the soldiers of the 14th Army were not the peacekeepers.

The countdown of Russia's peacekeeping activities has been going on since the landing of peacekeepers at the airfield in Tiraspol in 1992. The 14th Army is the backbone of the operational group of Russian troops in Transnistria. If we consider the current situation, the task force is subordinate to the command of the 14th Army.

The Russian peacekeepers received a mandate from the UN Security Council for their activities and now represent this very international organization. The MS of Russia includes two battalions of peacekeepers - the 82nd separate guards motorized rifle battalion (military unit 74273) and the 113th separate guards motorized rifle battalion (military unit 22137). Both battalions consist of 4 motorized rifle companies, command and control platoons, grenade launcher, technical support, material support and medical support.

In addition to peacekeeping battalions, which directly serve on the line of contact, the operational group includes the 540th separate command battalion (military unit 09353), which is engaged in the protection and disposal of ammunition stored in the arsenal. This battalion consists of a security company (management company, 4 security platoons, a security department of the military prosecutor's office and a security department of military counterintelligence), a communications center, a feldeger communications station, an engineer platoon, a department for storage and disposal of weapons and military equipment, a maintenance company, a logistics company, a fuel depot, a training ground and a military band.

The total number of the operational group in Transnistria is only about 1700 people.

Above, I talked about the political component of the conflict, but there is one more component that needs to be mentioned. This is an arsenal, which today is the world's largest storage of weapons and ammunition. Both Moldovans and Ukrainians perfectly understood the cost of this arsenal. Especially considering the fact that in the post-Soviet and former socialist countries, the weapons were Soviet.

That is why they did not take this stuff out to the territory of Russia in due time. Ukraine did not give a passage for the removal of ammunition. She did not dare to destroy ammunition on her territory, although this option was proposed. Nobody knows how much and what is there now. Former warehouses of the two border districts of the SA and ammunition removed from European countries.

According to some experts, if the arsenal for some reason is blown up into the air, the explosion will be equivalent to the explosion of a nuclear weapon with a yield of 10 kilotons or more. It is almost impossible to take out these goods today. Simply because during storage, including in the open air, ammunition could undergo corrosion, some changes, and now it is even dangerous to touch them. Sappers are engaged in this in the 540th battalion.

What's next?


Maya Sandu's speech and numerous statements by Moldovan politicians about the withdrawal of peacekeepers from the PMR are just a report to Western curators about their readiness to be at the forefront of the fight against Russia. In fact, already in her next speech, Sandu abruptly "backed down", saying that she was not going to spoil relations with Russia.

Moreover, there were so many attempts to withdraw the Russians from the TMR that no one intends to count them. The last time it happened was two years ago, when the issue was even raised at the UN General Assembly. The Assembly even passed a resolution on the need for such a conclusion. "On the complete and unconditional withdrawal of foreign armed forces from the territory of the Republic of Moldova." Only now this resolution is interpreted in an original way. Its essence is to withdraw the task force, not the peacekeepers.

The Moldovan politicians are well aware that neither Russia nor the PMR will ever agree to the withdrawal of peacekeepers from Transnistria, if Moldova continues its policy of joining Romania. And over the past 28 years, the republic has practically taken shape as an independent state. All the institutions necessary for the state have been created, a legal system has been created. And now the Transnistrian Republic does not depend on Moldova at all.

The presence of a huge arsenal in the PMR, which must be eliminated, has become an excellent brake for those who like radical solutions. There is no state in the world today that would agree to dispose of as much dangerous ammunition as is left in the arsenal. Simply put, the 540th battalion must leave! And what will the arsenal become then? A huge atomic bomb in the center of Europe?

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  1. Lech from Android.
    Lech from Android. 5 December 2020 06: 35
    0
    Until now, Gorbachev's affairs are backfiring on us ... in order to avoid any problems in the future, first of all, we need to tackle the political reorganization of Moldova and Ukraine, change the pro-Western political elite to a pro-Russian one, then there will be a solid basis for stabilizing the situation in this direction.
    And so until this is done there will be constant attempts to swing the situation into a hot conflict ... and we will endlessly discuss the same thing every year. what
    1. Ilya-spb
      Ilya-spb 5 December 2020 07: 13
      +12
      There can be no problem for peacekeepers, because they are peacekeepers.

      Not invaders, not robbers, but defenders of the world.

      There is a problem of arrogant nationalists Romanians, sleeping and seeing themselves even in Odessa.

      There is a problem of restless Ukrainians.

      But the main problem is the Americans. From USA. Anglo-Saxons.
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 5 December 2020 10: 15
        -1
        Quote: Ilya-spb
        There is a problem of restless Ukrainians.

        Yes, for these there has always been, "the worse, the better for the Sumerian."
      2. ltc35
        ltc35 6 December 2020 12: 32
        +2
        To some extent, this is a unique conflict. In the early 90s, I served in those parts and saw everything myself. Hotheads then cooled down, and the entire population is well aware of the senselessness of escalating the situation. Now, from time to time, some politicians take out an old skeleton from the closet for hype to shake it in front of the eyes of an inexperienced world public in their own interests and ... hide it back. And the local population learned to live with it, almost not remembering past grievances.
    2. siberalt
      siberalt 5 December 2020 07: 42
      +6
      There is only one problem for peacekeepers. Their further fate can be decided only by the UN Security Council with a unanimous vote with the right of veto of any Security Council member state. The blockade of Russian peacekeepers is therefore not possible in principle. Otherwise - the compulsion to peace.
      1. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
        Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 5 December 2020 15: 07
        -1
        .Their further fate can be decided only by the UN Security Council

        With what fright? What does the UN have to do with peacekeepers in the PMR?
        1. Lara Croft
          Lara Croft 8 December 2020 20: 30
          -1
          Quote: Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
          .Their further fate can be decided only by the UN Security Council

          With what fright? What does the UN have to do with peacekeepers in the PMR?

          I also thought about it, the author forgot to indicate the number and date of the UN Security Council resolution ...
          according to the terms of clause 8 specified by the author of the Agreement
          On July 21, an agreement was signed "On the principles of the settlement of the armed conflict in the Transnistrian region of the Republic of Moldova"
          the activity of "MC" is terminated ...
      2. Cherry Nine
        Cherry Nine 5 December 2020 20: 44
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        Quote: siberalt
        The blockade of Russian peacekeepers is therefore not possible in principle. Otherwise - the compulsion to peace.

        You are absolutely right. A radical solution to the PMR problem is possible only if a direct military clash becomes acceptable for the Moldovan side. Alas, neither Moldova nor even Romania can yet provide an effective solution to this problem from a military point of view, and are unlikely to be able to in the foreseeable future.
    3. Sergey M. Karasev
      Sergey M. Karasev 5 December 2020 07: 46
      -1
      in order to avoid any problems in the future, first of all, it is necessary to tackle the political reorganization of Moldova and Ukraine, change the pro-Western political elite to the pro-Russian one, then there will be a solid basis for stabilizing the situation in this direction.

      Golden words ... crying Who else would explain HOW to achieve this without the agromadic risk of unleashing all-versus-all wars with the danger of entering the nuclear phase.
      1. Sergei
        Sergei 5 December 2020 17: 39
        +4
        For example, appoint not crooks to posts but normal people who will not rob the people, but work for their benefit. As an option? Impossible, right?
        1. Sergey M. Karasev
          Sergey M. Karasev 5 December 2020 19: 18
          0
          And who will appoint? People? And where does the people in the post-Soviet space decide something?
          1. Sergei
            Sergei 5 December 2020 19: 24
            +1
            Are we talking about Russia's policy towards other states? Well, the government of the Russian Federation must choose who to bet on. And if he puts and supports a dull kleptomaniac, then the result.
            1. Sergey M. Karasev
              Sergey M. Karasev 5 December 2020 19: 30
              -2
              Perhaps, only stupid kleptomaniacs and bruised Westerners and nationalists remained. Normal people capable of making politics specifically in Moldova and Ukraine were all killed or squeezed out
              1. Sergei
                Sergei 5 December 2020 19: 37
                +2
                Hardly, but an interesting thought))) just based on what is happening here, the Russian Federation does not care about the Russians from the right bank, the ambassador is always with the language in one place, while the American one is like that plug, everywhere and for any reason. So we live, and then they also propose to bomb us. ))))
                1. Liam
                  Liam 5 December 2020 20: 00
                  +8
                  Quote: Serghei
                  RF don't care about Russians from the right bank

                  It’s such propaganda ... In Chisinau alone, there are much more Russian-speaking people than in the entire PMR. And something about pogroms and interethnic wars is not heard.
                  1. Sergej1972
                    Sergej1972 5 December 2020 20: 13
                    +2
                    But in the PMR, Russians and Ukrainians hold power, and in Chisinau, Russians are just a minority, which they do not offend yet.
                    1. Liam
                      Liam 5 December 2020 20: 26
                      +5
                      Quote: Sergej1972
                      But in the PMR,

                      Thieves and corrupt officials. As in Chisinau, however, before Sandu. And therefore this senseless conflict has been going on for 30 years. They are too free to steal and smuggle in the gray zones of the unrecognized republics. And the topic of the confrontation between Russians and Moldovans arises only during the election period when the next blue thief a la Dodon, he needs to easily cut down the voices of Russian-speaking. Since he was only engaged in theft and about pensions, salaries, covid, etc.
                      geopolitics. They are worthless, unlike medicine and everything else.

                      And the topic of Pridnestrovie is more interesting in the Russian Federation and not in Moldova. In the list of topics of interest to Moldovans, the PMR is at the end of the first hundred, God forbid. True, this time many Russian-speaking people are tired of this broken Dodon record and quite massively voted for Sandu, especially in Chisinau. Because she talks about the real problems of people and is not noticed in theft.
                      1. Cherry Nine
                        Cherry Nine 5 December 2020 20: 54
                        +1
                        Quote: Liam
                        Because she talks about the real problems of people and is not noticed in theft.

                        Well, let's see. In the post-Soviet space, the fate of politicians who are fighting theft is unfortunate. It would be great, meanwhile, to take Mr. Plahotniuc by the gills, but the Americans did not fit in as usual.
                      2. Liam
                        Liam 5 December 2020 21: 01
                        +5


                        A lonely man from the FSO is her only presidential motorcade. She refused from the presidential villa and stayed to live in her apartment.
                        Regarding Plahotniuc, he fled Moldova after a 15-minute conversation with the American ambassador, although he swagged heavily. In the United States, he was declared persona non grata with his family and is now hiding with Erdogan's friend in Turkey.
                      3. Cherry Nine
                        Cherry Nine 5 December 2020 21: 13
                        -1
                        Quote: Liam
                        In the USA declared persona non grata with his family

                        Yes, but in a mess it would be much more organic.
                        Quote: Liam
                        She refused the presidential villa and stayed in her apartment.

                        This is all very touching, I saw (Goloborodko with a bicycle hello). But resolving the topic of theft is slightly different.
                      4. Liam
                        Liam 5 December 2020 21: 26
                        +5
                        Quote: Cherry Nine
                        Yes but

                        This should be done by Moldovan prosecutors and judges. He stole in Moldova, not in the USA. The Americans did so much that they removed him from here and the whole pyramid fell down. Dodon is no good for him. Plahotniuc was a thief, but clever. And this one- just a greedy fool who got thrown off easily. As a politician, Sandu is 3 heads taller than them. For a year, having only 15 deputies in parliament, she managed to throw off both "gods" by political methods exclusively. Moreover, first Dodon helped her throw off Plahotniuc, and then he helped her throw Dodon off. will land in Rostov.
                        Do not underestimate her. For 5 months of the premiership, she blocked almost all smuggling schemes that flourished for decades. And that does not want to turn into a boyarynya Morozov, only a plus. This is a good kind of populism. In a poor country, the president should not be chic
              2. Sergei
                Sergei 5 December 2020 20: 26
                0
                In the PMR, an internationalist has power)) that there are really good three state languages.
            2. Sergei
              Sergei 5 December 2020 20: 26
              +1
              Yes, but if you count north and south, then where is anyone else without question)))
  2. Cherry Nine
    Cherry Nine 5 December 2020 20: 50
    -1
    Quote: Serghei
    Impossible, right?

    Impossible.
    Quote: Serghei
    normal people who will not rob the people, but work for their benefit

    If you are talking about post-Soviet countries, then such a person will under no circumstances be a friend of Russia. Well, that is, the option "listens and eats" is the maximum option that Russia can count on.
    1. Sergei
      Sergei 5 December 2020 21: 12
      +1
      Then what's the solution?)
  • Jacket in stock
    Jacket in stock 5 December 2020 08: 30
    +6
    Quote: Lech from Android.
    tackle the political reorganization of Moldova and Ukraine, change the pro-Western political elite to the pro-Russian one, then there will be a solid basis for stabilizing the situation

    Who will do this?
    Is there a pro-Russian elite in Russia itself?
    Until now, the main idea is about Europe to Vladivostok. Accordingly, the former Soviet republics need to join Russia if Russia itself wants to join Europe. It is easier and more logical for them to go straight to Europe.
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 5 December 2020 10: 17
      +5
      Quote: Jacket in stock
      Is there a pro-Russian elite in Russia itself?

      In Russia, only the people are pro-Russian, and the elite are all pro-Western. And in terms of ethnic composition, it is far from Russian.
      1. Region-25.rus
        Region-25.rus 5 December 2020 14: 59
        +7
        You know, of course I run the risk of getting some drawbacks (yes, I don't care) but (!) I will strongly disagree with you! I personally know a sufficient number of representatives of the people that they sleep and see how to "get out of this rash" or "it would be nice to call benefactors" from there "They would have built correct capitalism and gave everyone an iPhone." And I see them even more on the Internet. Yes, and class consciousness it is ... I know proletarians who scold oligarchs and employers for their oppression, but dreaming of becoming the same! And they come up with different excuses in advance.
        1. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 5 December 2020 17: 57
          +3
          Quote: Region-25.rus
          I personally know a sufficient number of representatives of the people that sleep and see how to "get out of this rashka" or "it would be nice to call benefactors" from there "

          Of course there are such people too, but they are not smart people. It's time for everyone to remember that no one is waiting for them in the Western "paradise", normal jobs there are occupied by their citizens, immigrants are not appreciated or loved anywhere. I myself live in this "paradise", and I know how they treat guest workers, even I do not treat them well. These are their children who are already born there can count on mercy.
        2. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 5 December 2020 18: 01
          +1
          Quote: Region-25.rus
          . I know proletarians who scold oligarchs and employers for their oppression, but dream of becoming the same!

          Dreams, they are the same as Jules Verne and Herbert Wales dreamed, but out of 140 million, there are several hundred oligarchs. The percentage of becoming an oligarch tends to infinity, they dream, maybe this will console them. And we will all walk on the ground.
  • The leader of the Redskins
    The leader of the Redskins 5 December 2020 07: 00
    +8
    There are travel programs. So somewhere a year ago I came across this ... There the presenters went to Tiraspol ...
    Sadness. The feeling that the republic froze in the worst years of the 80s of the last century ...
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 5 December 2020 10: 55
      +3
      Quote: Leader of the Redskins
      There the presenters went to Tiraspol ...
      Sadness. The feeling that the republic froze in the worst years of the 80s of the last century

      Natural programs on the TV channel "Friday", the program "Heads and Tails". There is a trip to Moldova and the Transnistrian Republic. And in Tiraspol and in Chisinau, it is almost the same, you see everything before your eyes, like the distant "post-Olympic" years. During the Soviet years, I was on vacation in Tiraspol with my wife's relatives, and I liked it there. The last time I had to be in the spring of 1991, just in tragic times. We then took out the family of my uncle's wife from brothers-in-law, the family lost a granddaughter. With great difficulty we got to Kiev. Since then, there has been no desire to visit Moldova.
      1. The leader of the Redskins
        The leader of the Redskins 5 December 2020 11: 48
        +2
        "Heads and Tails". Interesting format.
      2. Sergei
        Sergei 5 December 2020 17: 41
        +2
        Chisinau is not the same with Tiraspol. Tiraspol is stuck in the union.
      3. Avior
        Avior 5 December 2020 21: 06
        +3
        ... Natural programs on the TV channel "Friday", the program "Heads and Tails".

        The only remaining link between Russian and Ukrainian television smile
  • Andrei Nikolaevich
    Andrei Nikolaevich 5 December 2020 07: 46
    +2
    Considering all the "reasonableness" of the Moldovan policy, any weakening of Russia's influence in this region will cause an outbreak of Moldovan nationalism. For all these years, Moldovans have believed in their "strength". From heroes of anecdotes, the country will turn into an unmanageable enclave. For some reason they consider themselves a "free people". They forgot that the Romanians treated them like cattle. And the Romanians do not need tomato-grape Moldova, without the industrialized Transnistria. So they are pulling Transnistria to Romania. I would be very tactful if I say that I do not understand the Moldovans who want to join the poorest EU country. Well, that's why they are Moldovans. Still, this is their historical chance to prove to the whole world that they are not heroes of anecdotes in the post-Soviet space, but a smart and independent nation. But somehow, for all 28 years of "Moldovan independence", nothing came of it. All the same, whatever one may say, and speaking about anecdotes, a simple conclusion suggests itself: "The voice of the people, the voice of God."
    1. Jacket in stock
      Jacket in stock 5 December 2020 08: 39
      +2
      Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich
      I don’t understand Moldovans striving to join the poorest EU country

      But how can Romania be there for as long as. The main thing is to get into the EU.
      From Lisbon to Tallinn.
      And then you can go anywhere with a Romanian (read European) passport. They want to join the "golden billion".
      Those whom you called Moldovan nationalists have long had Romanian passports in their pockets. And they do not need independent Moldova even for slogans.
      1. Andrei Nikolaevich
        Andrei Nikolaevich 5 December 2020 10: 38
        -3
        If not for the PMR, these Moldovans would have long been thrown into the trash. Why did the Kremlin need this jester, Dodon? Maybe I don’t know much, but Lavrov answered Mike Sandu in Russian, “no”. What else does she want? ... Here really is a Moldovan woman.
    2. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 5 December 2020 10: 32
      +2
      Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich
      I would be very tactful if I say that I do not understand the Moldovans who want to join the poorest EU country.

      And there is nothing to understand. The building where I work was restored by gaster from Moldova, so they stated that if they enter Romania, they will immediately receive EU passports, and will work with us legally, the salary will be different, they will be protected by the Workers' Inspection, and the duration stay is not limited. If we take the situation now with the caronavirus, then all the gaster were sent home, but those who have EU citizenship or our residence permit work without problems. This is what Moldovans want.
      1. Andrei Nikolaevich
        Andrei Nikolaevich 5 December 2020 10: 49
        0
        Did not know. I will consider.
        But knowing this folk well, I do not advise you to particularly trust their chatter and dreams. Be smarter. You are not Moldovan.
        1. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 5 December 2020 11: 28
          0
          Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich
          But knowing this folk well, I do not advise you to particularly trust their chatter and dreams. Be smarter.

          Those who still graduated from Soviet schools, you can talk to those, and young people think and live differently. But they do not work badly, at the level of Belarusians and an order of magnitude higher than the descendants of the ancient ukrov, and most importantly they do not open their mouths.
          Smarter? Yes, if we were all smarter, we would still live in the USSR. Well, if without sarcasm, then in Soviet times, when I worked in the fishing fleet, then every third sailor-fish processor was Moldovan (the whole union went to us for a long ruble). But that was a long time ago, and from time to time I already think maybe there was not that kind, reckless, golden time.
          1. Andrei Nikolaevich
            Andrei Nikolaevich 5 December 2020 11: 38
            +2
            "reckless and golden time" it was for them. I am a child, I have been to Moldova and central Russia and Siberia many times .. I can compare and draw conclusions. In Moldovan villages, stores had everything - from jeans to scarce nuclear weapons. In Russian villages - vodka and herring. Now I understand that the wealth of the "fraternal republics" is based on the poverty of Russian cities and villages. The same Moldovans shout about the "Russian accumulation", forgetting that thanks to Brezhnev he made them a normal and rich republic. Who they were before joining the Soviet Union? wandering musicians, lautars and gypsies. And who became? a republic with universities, excellent supplies, factories and factories.
            1. Andrei Nikolaevich
              Andrei Nikolaevich 5 December 2020 11: 48
              +3
              I really like the episode from the "red viburnum" where the mother of the protagonist talks about her hard life. A wonderful monologue. Not feigned. Alive. With a beautiful Vologda accent, says the grandmother. And the key phrase of this old woman is "" your mistake is my tears "
              And how many such grannies are there in Russia? Million! Take away their meager pension and give it to the ,, revival of fraternal peoples ,,? Or maybe it’s better to let the grandmother live out at least her century, calmly and not rip them off, not take these pennies, for the sake of "fraternal peoples and fraternal republics"
              And as for the "brothers" - don't give a damn about them. Let them figure it out. Simple Russian grannies are more expensive.
            2. tihonmarine
              tihonmarine 5 December 2020 12: 08
              0
              Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich
              reckless and golden time "it was for them. I am a child, I have been in Moldova and in central Russia, Siberia. I can compare and draw conclusions. In Moldovan villages there was everything in shops - from jeans to scarce nuclear weapons. In Russian villages - vodka and herring.

              That's right, well, almost true. In the post-Stalinist USSR, the Russian people were always offended. And why I say "almost that", but because in Russia vodka and herring since 1968 has been hard to get. When my friend was married in 1968, we were fetching vodka from the Smolensk region. over 80 km. went to Belarus, and sold herring "with a load", taking a kilo of herring, the trailer must take two kilos of hake (the same for perch, macrorus, and even for pollock).
              Well, and I entered this "golden time", as I lived in another republic, walked the seas, came from the seas and ... "Walk a flaw from the ruble and above!" This can only be seen in a fairy tale now.
              1. Andrei Nikolaevich
                Andrei Nikolaevich 5 December 2020 12: 48
                0
                Well yes. On the steering wheel, it was possible to hum, slightly. And for three rubles, so in general!) Grandfather will bring himself three bottles of beer on Friday. And while my grandfather was asleep, I had time to pour all the beer into a saucepan and hand over three bottles to the collection point. I had 60 kopecks! A fortune!!))
                1. tihonmarine
                  tihonmarine 5 December 2020 14: 30
                  0
                  Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich
                  Well yes. On the steering wheel, it was possible to hum, slightly. And for three rubles, so in general!) Grandfather will bring himself three bottles of beer on Friday. And while my grandfather was asleep, I had time to pour all the beer into a saucepan and hand over three bottles to the collection point.

                  Well, something like this, you come alone to a restaurant, A bottle of cognac - 5 rubles. coffee - 25 kopecks. shish kebab 1 rub. 65 kopecks salad - 60 kopecks a chocolate bar to a waitress - 60 kopecks. And only 8 rubles. 10 kopecks.
                  A bottle of beer 12 kopecks, I drank 3 bottles, and another for a bottle of beer.
                  In general, for 1 ruble - 4 bottles of beer.
                  1. Andrei Nikolaevich
                    Andrei Nikolaevich 5 December 2020 14: 38
                    0
                    I will allow myself to clarify. As a specialist) At first, in my childhood labor activity, in the delivery of bottles, a beer bottle cost 18 kopecks. Later - 20. Five bottles - one ruble. And if with the boys we rummage in a heap of broken bottles near the collection point, then another one can be found and returned. Total-01 ruble 20 kopecks. And this is 25 pies with peas, or 12 whitewash, or almost 700 grams of ice cream. In general, almost ,, alligarchs ,,))
                    1. tihonmarine
                      tihonmarine 5 December 2020 14: 46
                      0
                      Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich
                      At first, my “childish labor activity,” on the delivery of bottles, a beer bottle cost 18 kopecks. Later - 20. Five bottles - one ruble.

                      Yes, in the 80s, the price of containers rose in the RSFSR, in the Baltic States before the arrival of Gorbaty, beer and vodka containers were 12 kopecks. milk 0,5 l. 15 kopecks. milk 1,0 liter 20 kopecks The bottle collectors had from 20 - 00 rubles a day a day without straining. The factory received half the amount. And now bottles, iron cans cost 10 cents.
                      1. Andrei Nikolaevich
                        Andrei Nikolaevich 5 December 2020 15: 38
                        0
                        Do not doubt. This is the year 1979-81, Nikolaev region. 5 kopecks - a pie with peas and 10 kopecks - belyash. I remember the prices exactly.
                      2. tihonmarine
                        tihonmarine 5 December 2020 18: 06
                        0
                        Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich
                        5 kopecks - a pie with peas and 10 kopecks - belyash. I remember the prices exactly.

                        This is not forgotten, I also remember almost all the prices, and even before my eyes I see, as if in reality. Even a donut for 3 kopecks. with barley coffee for 5 kopecks. But it was delicious.
                  2. tihonmarine
                    tihonmarine 5 December 2020 14: 52
                    0
                    Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich
                    And this is 25 pies with peas, or 12 whitewash, or almost 700 grams of ice cream.

                    Interesting "pies with peas", I have not seen such, now I have heard for the first time. Although there is nothing to be surprised at, Russia has always been sucked in for meat. For the first time in Kaliningrad I saw "Kaliningrad pies" (with hake), then we all gaped, and then we got used to it.
            3. Sergej1972
              Sergej1972 5 December 2020 20: 37
              +1
              You know, I myself live in a small region of Central Russia. But as a Russian person, at times it hurts me when, speaking about the Soviet period, they put an equal sign between the villages of the Non-Black Earth Region and the entire vast RSFSR. And what about Moscow, Leningrad, Gorky, Novosibirsk, Kuibyshev, Sverdlovsk and other cities with a population of over one million and sub-million? Black earth, Volga region, Kuban, Ural, Siberia, other regions is this not Russia? And the closed cities? And what about the regional centers of the same Non-Black Earth Region, in which from one third to half of the population of these regions lived? In all of these regions and cities lived
              many times more people in comparison with the rural areas of the Non-Black Earth Region. Now the difference is even greater. The RSFSR was a huge republic with very serious differences in the level of economic development, the level of supply of the population in different regions. And, by the way, already in the 70s. three quarters of the population of the RSFSR were city dwellers.
          2. doka
            doka 8 December 2020 23: 20
            0
            No, everything is simple in russia herring vodka and in moldavia the entire population of the population sewed jeans by the local krasovka clothing factory Bendery factory tigin's shoes together with a salamander, how people live in the netherlands and like in the usa, it is easy to feed 20 milen or 150 plus the territory of the pmr was part of ukraine and in the first place they turned to protection not to Russia, but to Ukraine, then Russia,
  • Sergei
    Sergei 5 December 2020 17: 44
    0
    I go nuts, there is no Moldavian nationalism in Moldova, there is Romanian. The industry of Pridnestrovie is no longer what it was and it is unlikely for the sake of it that someone will start a war. They all lost it, sir, not without the help of the Metropolitanate. I did not understand the words about freedom, but considering the rest, I think it is not necessary.
  • old_pferd
    old_pferd 5 December 2020 07: 51
    +9
    The Russian peacekeepers received a mandate from the UN Security Council for their activities and now represent this very international organization.

    I searched for this Security Council resolution for a long time and did not find it. And he did not find a UN decision on granting this peacekeeping operation the status of a UN operation. This is precisely the problem of our peacekeepers.
    If someone pokes my nose into a UN document, I will be glad and admit that I am wrong. In the meantime, it seems that the author, to put it mildly, is disingenuous.
    1. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
      Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 5 December 2020 15: 17
      +6
      .Would anyone poke my nose into a UN document,

      Be spoiled by your nose - there is no such resolution))
  • parusnik
    parusnik 5 December 2020 07: 56
    -1
    And what will the arsenal become then?
    The arsenal will turn into nothing, but how and to whom to transfer the arsenal. Not only "yellow cartridges, black bombs and white shells" (c) are stored there, but artillery and small arms. It needs, first of all, the Armed Forces of Ukraine, for the conduct of hostilities in the Donbass. The military-industrial complex of Ukraine does not fully provide its Armed Forces.
  • Stirbjorn
    Stirbjorn 5 December 2020 08: 41
    0
    Why can't Transnistria be given autonomy, by analogy with Gagauzia?
    1. Avior
      Avior 5 December 2020 09: 46
      +1
      Gagauzians live in Gagauzia, more than 80 percent of the population, all the rest are less than 20.
      And Transnistria is ethnically heterogeneous - there are about a third of Russians, Ukrainians and Moldovans.
    2. Sergei
      Sergei 5 December 2020 17: 45
      +1
      Because the PMR does not need it. They are completely satisfied with the current situation, I mean power.
    3. Sergej1972
      Sergej1972 5 December 2020 20: 40
      -1
      According to Moldovan legislation, Transnistria is an autonomy. I think that the Russian and Ukrainian population of Transnistria, which is predominant in number, does not want to be under the rule of the Moldovans. This, of course, is not advertised.
  • Maxamud
    Maxamud 5 December 2020 08: 49
    -3
    Ignore these screams from Moldova, etc. We continue to be stationed in Transnistria! They were applied already in the late 80s in the 90s .. They almost drowned in blood
  • Olgovich
    Olgovich 5 December 2020 08: 55
    0
    Maya Sandu's speech and numerous statements by Moldovan politicians about the withdrawal of peacekeepers from the PMR are just a report to Western curators about their readiness to be at the forefront of the fight against Russia.

    not quite "just", here is the information for yesterday:
    The leader of Transnistria, Vadim Krasnoselsky, demanded that all participants in the peacekeeping process be informed about the situation in the Security Zone.

    He stated about "the unconstructive approach and defiant aggressive behavior of the representatives of the Moldovan side in the Joint Control Commission (JCC)", infotag.md reports
  • Avior
    Avior 5 December 2020 09: 38
    +6
    ... And the peacekeepers were brought there by the decision of the UN Security Council, which is binding on all UN member states.

    Until recently, I thought so too, purely from memory.
    But when the question arose and I was asked a specific decision by the UN Security Council, the most detailed study of the issue confirmed that there was no such decision.
    Peacekeepers in Transnistria do not have a UN mandate.
    They are located there under a trilateral agreement, which can be repainted by withdrawal from either side.
    In addition to the peacekeepers, there are military personnel from the Special Group of Forces in Transnistria.
    According to the 1999 Istanbul agreement, Russia pledged to withdraw its military from Transnistria (but this did not concern the peacekeepers)
    The ammunition must be exported to Russia; Ukraine agrees to transport the ammunition through its territory.
    Regarding peacekeepers, in 2015, PACE made a decision to transform the military mission into a civilian one.
    Something like this is the situation.
    1. Liam
      Liam 5 December 2020 09: 51
      +1
      Quote: Avior
      in Transnistria there are soldiers from the Special Group of Forces.

      hi
      And finding this group without any official justification at all, not even a bilateral agreement between the countries. Not a piece of paper, not a line
      1. Avior
        Avior 5 December 2020 10: 15
        -1
        In addition to the Istanbul Agreement, under which Russia pledged to withdraw these troops by 2001 and subsequent decisions of the PACE, OSCE and UN General Assembly on this topic.
        1. Liam
          Liam 5 December 2020 10: 41
          +2
          These are all decisions and obligations of the Russian Federation on the conclusion. But how and why they are there, there is not a single piece of paper. Absolutely on "bird rights"
      2. Kisa
        Kisa 5 December 2020 20: 06
        0
        hmm does anyone have revivals? and what is the author of unverified information being pushed to us here?
        if we are there on bird's rights then what are the chances against Sandu?
        Well, even okay, there is no piece of paper, but there was a gentlemen's agreement, and if everything has been quiet for 30 years, it’s probably logical to insist to withdraw foreign soldiers ... huh? no?
    2. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
      Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 5 December 2020 15: 14
      0
      Here I am about the same - Staver smacks nonsense. Unknowingly, most likely. It would be necessary to delve into the topic before writing. Otherwise, this is such crap.
      1. Niel-le-Calais
        Niel-le-Calais 6 December 2020 00: 28
        +1
        Quote: Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
        Otherwise, this is such crap

        This is normal. A large number of visitors cheers for patriots and ordinary uninformed. And the topic is hype in connection with the statement of the new president. They even remembered the existence of the PMR ... although they had been signaling for several decades ..
        Well, they reassured the cheers-patriots with the information that all types are top.
        Staver did not even mention that Korchinsky and his OUN members fought there together with the Russians. UP TO XNUMX people. I understand a word.
        Dmitry Korchinsky - awarded the medal "Defender of Pridnestrovie" and the Order of the Republic.
        Just as the author described, the Ukrainians fought against Romanization. 60 of them were awarded with the medals “Defender of Transnistria”. And those who were injured were given apartments in Tiraspol by the TMR authorities.
        This is how Ukrainian nationalists and Russian volunteers actually fought together.
        So, before the territorial gravity and loyalty of Ukraine to the Russian Federation, it was possible to do whatever was necessary. In Ukraine, there were even attempts to annex the territory to Ukraine on the principle of exchange. Something is already working with a Moldovan port on Ukrainian soil, but this is not relevant.
        It could be exported through Ukraine. For reference, under the head of the Russian Ministry of Defense Valeria Serdyukov, he flew through Odessa by helicopter to Tiraspol (then a small scandal came out, but imagine the situation when you can safely cross the head of the Russian Ministry of Defense from Ukraine to the PMR by helicopters)
        Back in the 90s, an agreement was signed between the Russian Federation and Ukraine, regulating the export of ammunition from Moldova
        back in 1999 at the OSCE summit in Istanbul. Ukraine still agrees to use its territory for the safe withdrawal of Russian troops and ammunition.
        Since 2018, Ukraine has confirmed its readiness to provide a corridor and control over the export of ammunition.
        However, once again it is argued that the Russian Federation will not withdraw. Due to the loss of control over territory and influence.
        Today's situation is not new. Bargaining. Only the Kremlin is not interested in bargaining between Moldova and the Russian Federation. An attempt to exchange something more important. What Moldova cannot give. And the rest (even including Ukraine) don't care, but people were again asked to either endure or evacuate on their own. Fortunately, they have several passports.
        1. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
          Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 6 December 2020 01: 14
          0
          Interesting comment. But the topic was blasted to the level of chewing gum, digestible by patriots, in the spirit of nightingales-Zakharov-guns. + As usual, though.
          1. Niel-le-Calais
            Niel-le-Calais 6 December 2020 16: 13
            -1
            Quote: Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
            But the topic was blasted to the level of chewing gum, digestible by patriots, in the spirit of nightingales-Zakharov-guns. + As usual, though.

            Well, the Kremlin has also brought it to the "We will not withdraw, and what will you do to us?"
            As a result, bidding as usual. A banal sale, but no buyers. They want it for free and with a surcharge, which means a dead end.
  • Kara
    Kara 5 December 2020 09: 41
    +12
    Moldovan politicians are well aware that neither Russia nor the PMR will ever agree to the withdrawal of peacekeepers from Transnistria if Moldova continues the policy of joining Romania.

    Therefore, it remains for Moldova to deal only with statements
  • Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
    Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 5 December 2020 11: 25
    +2
    The Russian peacekeepers received a mandate from the UN Security Council for their activities and now represent this very international organization.

    And the peacekeepers were brought there by the decision of the UN Security Council, which is binding on all UN member states.


    there it is. And after all, the majority believe in this mess, that there is a UN peacekeeping mission in the PMR. Bravo, Staver.
  • Alexfly
    Alexfly 5 December 2020 12: 20
    0
    Sort the ammunition, what can be taken out and used can be taken to Russia, the rest can be disassembled on the spot, which cannot be destroyed.
  • prior
    prior 5 December 2020 13: 08
    -1
    If Stalin was in the Kremlin, he would have summoned Sanda or her ambassador and said:
    "I don't like the Russian peacekeepers in Transnistria, okay, we will deploy them all over Moldova."
    And no one in Chisinau, Russia or the world would discuss anything else ...
  • andreykolesov123
    andreykolesov123 5 December 2020 15: 14
    -1
    "Russians - for the Dniester, Jews - for the Dniester"
    And what is Russian for?
  • Sergei
    Sergei 5 December 2020 16: 44
    +3
    Could you cite the text of the law on the functioning of languages ​​in the Republic of Moldova? And then write cool, just not what it is.
    1. Liam
      Liam 5 December 2020 19: 41
      +2
      Quote: Serghei
      Could you cite the text of the law on the functioning of languages ​​in the Republic of Moldova? And then write cool, just not what it is.

      About criminal liability for the use of the Russian language is of course a masterpiece ... the floor of Chisinau and 2/3 Balti means sitting)
      1. Sergei
        Sergei 5 December 2020 19: 47
        +2
        C 91 at least)))
    2. Niel-le-Calais
      Niel-le-Calais 6 December 2020 00: 37
      -1
      Quote: Serghei
      the text of the law on the functioning of languages ​​in the Republic of Moldova

      The official language was declared, according to the Constitution of the Republic of Moldova, "the Moldovan language, functioning on the basis of the Latin script"
      For the Russian and Ukrainian in the law of Moldova, an official status is fixed on the territory of ATU Transnistria (not controlled by the authorities of the Republic of Moldova), for the Russian and Gagauz - on the territory of ATU Gagauzia
      For comparison in PMR -
      Article 3. Legal status of languages
      All languages ​​on the territory of the Pridnestrovian Moldavian Republic
      have equal legal status and are provided with the same protection
      and state support.
      The status of an official language is given on an equal footing
      Moldavian, Russian and Ukrainian languages.
      On December 3, the Parliament of Moldova approved in the first reading a draft on securing the status of interethnic communication for the Russian language and voted for amendments that create an opportunity for the return of Russian information and analytical programs.
      1. Sergei
        Sergei 6 December 2020 01: 03
        +3
        Article 3. Russian as a language of interethnic communication in the USSR is used on the territory of the republic along with Moldovan as a language of interethnic communication, which ensures the implementation of real national-Russian and Russian-national bilingualism.

        The Republic of Moldova
        PARLIAMENT
        LAW No. 3465
        from 01-09-1989
        On the functioning of languages ​​on the territory of the Moldavian SSR
        Published: 30-09-1989 in Vestile Rssm No. 9 Article No. 217
        Version in force from 29.06.18 to
        ЗП86 from 24.05.18, MO235-244 / 29.06.18 art.370

        Any other questions? This law is still in effect. What is now fixed there is noodles for semi-literate idiots. Instead of accepting Russian as the second STATE, they slip the same status as it is. Let's say thanks to the pro-Russian president and his "specialists".
      2. Liam
        Liam 6 December 2020 11: 08
        +1
        Quote: Niel-le-Calais
        Parliament of Moldova 3 December

        )))
        Dodon is already on his suitcases and is arranging the last days of Pompey in parliament. They have not adopted anything new compared to the existing laws on languages. But under the guise of this garbage, they pushed many corruption schemes for Dodon and Shor on the assembly line.
        True, due to the outright lawlessness in parliament that day and violations of everything and everyone - the Constitution, the Parliament's regulations, the procedures for considering and adopting laws of the Constitutional Court, 99,99% will cancel all their scribbles that day
  • TermNachTer
    TermNachTer 5 December 2020 17: 20
    -3
    I would like to ask a counter question - does Moldova have an army to realize the wishes of the newly elected president?))) And how long will she sit in her chair?
    1. Sergei
      Sergei 5 December 2020 17: 48
      0
      It's a good question, in short, parity.
      1. Liam
        Liam 5 December 2020 20: 03
        +4
        The question is so-so. Except on the pages of VO, no one in Moldova even thinks about forceful methods of solving the issue
        1. Sergei
          Sergei 5 December 2020 20: 30
          +4
          Well, the people are interested, suppose that here the bloodthirsty armada is just waiting for an opportunity to attack the PMR and kill everyone. Not realizing that the Russians serve in the army of the RM, including that the security forces live in the PMR, but serve in the RM, and so on.
          1. Liam
            Liam 5 December 2020 20: 36
            +4
            That all economic agents of transnistria are registered in Moldova and pay tax and customs duties, and without the consent of Moldova, no export / import is possible, etc.). And Moldova is in no hurry to use it and strangle it economically, although it would be much easier than shooting games.
            As well as the fact that all the presidents of Moldova, from Snegur and Voronin to Dodon, made statements on duty about the need to withdraw troops, but no one in the Russian Federation had been so excited before)
            1. Sergei
              Sergei 5 December 2020 20: 42
              +3
              Well, then the creature of the west said))))
              1. Liam
                Liam 5 December 2020 20: 54
                +4
                Yeah ... after November 15, not a day goes by in VO without Sandu)
                1. Andrei Nikolaevich
                  Andrei Nikolaevich 5 December 2020 23: 33
                  -6
                  I see that in politics now two unpredictable ladies are hysterical. One has a husband behind the fence. (Tikhanovskaya) The other has no man at all. (Sandu) Therefore, the ladies have either PMS or they just got hungry.
        2. Cherry Nine
          Cherry Nine 5 December 2020 21: 01
          +2
          Quote: Liam
          no one in Moldova even thinks about forceful methods of resolving the issue

          Are you definitely not embarrassed by the unrecognized republic on the territory of the Republic of Moldova? Don't you think that such cases should be closed somehow, and not "don't kill, okay"?
          1. Liam
            Liam 5 December 2020 21: 14
            +2
            Doesn't bother. This should not have been allowed initially. But since it has already happened, there is no need to shoot. The PMR will die a natural death either when the people there too get tired of their thieves and take them on a pitchfork, or when the Russian Federation merges them in exchange for something. As Sandu delicately put it. -when a suitable geopolitical window opens. Change of power in the Russian Federation, bargaining on some other issues, etc. In real life, Moldovans do not have a problem of PMR. Do not forget that Moldova did not have a single day in the structure of Transnistria during the entire period of independence. They essentially split off back in 89/90 when the USSR was still alive. And the topic for society is peripheral. In a hypothetical referendum: the EU in exchange for the PMR, 99,9% of Moldovans will calmly answer, let them roll, spit on them. This is not Crimea or Donbas for Ukraine.
            PMR is not worth the life of a single Moldovan guy and not a single lei of spending. And this is what a person who took part in the events of 92 years there tells you
            1. Cherry Nine
              Cherry Nine 5 December 2020 22: 02
              0
              Quote: Liam
              This should not have been allowed initially.

              Well, there's nothing you can do about it.
              Quote: Liam
              when the people there get tired of their thieves and take them to the pitchfork

              I would not expect this. Somehow not tired for 30 years.
              Quote: Liam
              Sandu - when will the right geopolitical window open

              In order for the Republic of Moldova to creep into some kind of geopolitical window, it will have to link its problem with some big Ukrainian or European topics.
              Quote: Liam
              EU in exchange for PMR, 99,9% of Moldovans will calmly answer - yes, let them roll

              Where are they going? The PMR will drown in the sea?
              Quote: Liam
              PMR is not worth the life of a single Moldovan guy and not a single lei of spending.

              It sounds beautiful, but in fact the Republic of Moldova has its Palestinian autonomy at its side. It is not free and is also fraught with health risks for Moldovan guys.
              Quote: Liam
              This should be done by Moldovan prosecutors and judges.

              Well, since they're not doing this, an American prison would suit me too.
              Quote: Liam
              Don't underestimate her.

              No, God forbid, I'll only be glad. Moldova to Georgia and Ukraine to grow almost 2 times.
              1. Liam
                Liam 5 December 2020 22: 40
                +1
                Quote: Cherry Nine
                you will have to link your problem with some big Ukrainian or European topics.

                Naturally. But we must be ready for this. To close all the gray corruption schemes that feed the "independence" of the region, to put things in order "at home", to have a decent government, so that external players have someone to talk to and resolve the issue, and not another Dodon who is 4 The year of the presidency was not received in any state with a visit, except for the Russian Federation and the parliament full of thieves. No one will solve serious issues with such figures. 90% of the solution to the problem is in Moldova itself.

                Quote: Cherry Nine
                Where are they going?

                Where there is, let them remain there. The fence along the Dniester and goodbye. You forget that the main problems because of this "independence" are the Pridnestrovians themselves, not the Moldovans. Their life is not sugar at all.
                Quote: Cherry Nine
                the Palestinian Authority.

                Come on. 30 years there is not a single shot. People live a normal life. This is not medieval hatred in Karabakh or even more ancient in Palestine. There are no fundamental reasons for war and hatred. This will only appear if you start killing each other.

                Quote: Cherry Nine
                Moldova to Georgia and Ukraine to grow almost 2 times

                What exactly?
                1. Cherry Nine
                  Cherry Nine 5 December 2020 23: 20
                  0
                  Quote: Liam
                  90% solution to the problem is in Moldova itself.

                  Certainly. And this applies not only to the Moldovan case.
                  Quote: Liam
                  Fence across the Dniester and goodbye.

                  Did I mention the Palestinian case?
                  Quote: Liam
                  hatred in Karabakh or even older in Palestine. There is no fundamental reason for war and hatred.

                  What is needed there is not hatred, but forces that are not interested in peace. I don’t think that there can be any illusions about the TMR authorities, and even more so if Sandu achieves compliance with the laws on his bank. Pro-Russian cadres with laws are not on their way.
                  Quote: Liam
                  What exactly?

                  In money.
                  1. Liam
                    Liam 5 December 2020 23: 48
                    +1
                    Quote: Cherry Nine

                    Did I mention the Palestinian case?

                    Different situations, different reasons and different solutions

                    Quote: Cherry Nine
                    Sandu

                    The real threats for Sandu are all on the right bank and not in the PMR, for example, the total lustration of the prosecutor's office and the judiciary she is planning by creating an evaluation commission of invited European prosecutors and judges who will study income declarations and their compliance with the real state of affairs, cases that were conducted by all these judicial ranks and their compliance with the laws. The professional suitability and degree of corruption of everyone in general. The Georgian version under Saakashvili. Removal from the states of all and admission only not mired in total corruption.
                    Quote: Cherry Nine
                    In the money

                    If you are talking about GDP, then everything is not so simple in Moldova. Of 3,6 million people, 1 million are more or less permanently abroad. But the official GDP produced within the country by the remaining 2,6 million is divided by all 3,6 million official residents. the fact that this 1 million is produced and sent home (and this is many billion euros) is past the official statistics. The same is true with the level of the same pensions. Officially, they are very low. In reality, almost every family has someone abroad who sends money. My mother, for example, lives on real incomes that are many times higher than the official official pension. And this situation is ubiquitous.
                    Therefore, statistics on RM are not sufficiently objective in this regard.
                    1. Cherry Nine
                      Cherry Nine 6 December 2020 02: 18
                      +1
                      Quote: Liam
                      and different solutions

                      I see no solutions yet. I see Mr. Krasnoselsky and other gentlemen who in the unrecognized republic are engaged in unrecognized geopolitics, and in a peaceful RM with imposed legality, they are in prison. Well, or in Rostov, together with Dodon.
                      Quote: Liam
                      Georgian version under Saakashvili.

                      You are right, this can greatly shorten your life. I do not argue with the thesis that in the list of problems of the Republic of Moldova, the PMR is not the highest priority.
                      Quote: Liam
                      the creation of an evaluation commission of invited European prosecutors and judges

                      I have long believed that the best way for the EU to harm Great Russia, and indeed the best thing they can do in terms of historical significance, is to create some kind of offshore justice mechanism that could be used by backward countries in the EU itself and beyond. The conditional High Court of London in the sense of criminal law, which could extend its action, for example, to civil servants, judges and law enforcement officers of a particular country on the basis of an international treaty with that country. That is, when the next Sandu talks about striving for European legality - this European legality is already oiled, equipped, loaded with three ammunition, stands on a reserve path. Here, sign this piece of paper and tomorrow the German Zunderkommando will arrive and begin mass executions legality will begin to be induced.
                      Unfortunately, the current EU, as far as I can hear, in the sense of justice has long gone somewhere wrong, at least at the supranational level.
                      Quote: Liam
                      If you are about GDP

                      About him, dear.
                      Quote: Liam
                      the remaining 2,6 million is divided by all 3,6 million official residents.

                      Even so, it still falls short of Ukraine.

                      Will you argue that Moldova is a poor country even against the background of the CIS?
                      1. Liam
                        Liam 6 December 2020 08: 01
                        -1
                        Quote: Cherry Nine

                        You will argue

                        Of course not. When a third of the population works outside the country, the country cannot but be poor. Personal incomes of people are not as bad as in statistics, this is true. But everything that concerns the "non-personal" part of the economy, which develops on taxes, everything is bad there. Infrastructure, education, medicine, army, etc. As a rule, a person has a good car, but a broken road
                      2. Cherry Nine
                        Cherry Nine 6 December 2020 15: 21
                        +2
                        Quote: Liam
                        When a third of the population works outside the country, the country cannot but be poor.

                        Well, other peoples in half in the Land and in the Scattering live much longer. Moldovans will have to learn a lot of experience, including positive ones. The Armenians, for example, did not do well.
        3. Sergei
          Sergei 5 December 2020 21: 15
          +2
          And how to close them? Agreeing will not work, too much money is rowing, it is impossible to win, not because Russia will bomb Moldova, but because there is no one to fight with, everyone is our own. Recognize? It's easy, but local Nazis will be against it, and oddly enough, the leadership of the PMR and the Russian Federation))))
          1. Cherry Nine
            Cherry Nine 5 December 2020 22: 10
            0
            Quote: Serghei
            And how to close them?

            Complicated.
            Quote: Serghei
            Recognize? Easily,

            It won't bring peace. Jews have walked this road many times.
            Quote: Serghei
            because Russia will bomb Moldova

            Russia has no common borders with the Republic of Moldova, let me remind you, this is good news. So, it is not Russia, but Ukraine, on the one hand, and the aggressive NATO bloc, on the other, that determine any options for bombing. There will be an understanding that they will break in - no one will rock the boat.
            1. Sergei
              Sergei 5 December 2020 22: 52
              +1
              There is peace now, but there is an artificial division for the sake of profit.

              If they are ready to break in, then it is worth waiting for a provocation. Those who are at the top need war and blood ties. So not an option.

              It is better to think about how to support Russian speakers on the right bank, create a movement, appropriate NGO structures, and so on. It is more effective to combine than vice versa.
              1. Cherry Nine
                Cherry Nine 5 December 2020 23: 27
                0
                Quote: Serghei
                The world is now

                Hybrid.
                I am not delighted with the world, where some brothers are sitting in army warehouses.
                Quote: Serghei
                If they are ready to break in, then it is worth waiting for a provocation.

                If they are ready to break in, the PMR will drastically deflate, lost in the bushes. It turns out that no one ever knew where it is and what it is.
                Quote: Serghei
                Better to think about supporting Russian speakers on the right bank

                There is absolutely no need to think about it. So what, and the EU ration is clearly not the worst thing that can happen to the Russian-speaking.
                1. Sergei
                  Sergei 6 December 2020 00: 56
                  +1
                  Not some but specific ones, they even managed to conduct an audit with a scandal) if they did.

                  Not everything is so simple, a blitzkrieg is unprofitable, a sluggish war is beneficial.

                  There is no ration there and there is no association, in contrast to European and American NGOs, Russian ones are needed.
                  1. Cherry Nine
                    Cherry Nine 6 December 2020 02: 22
                    +1
                    Quote: Serghei
                    sluggish war is beneficial.

                    Beneficial to those who feed on it. Naturally, it is disadvantageous for citizens, neither from the Republic of Moldova, let alone the PMR.
                    Quote: Serghei
                    No soldering there

                    This is very annoying to hear.
                    Quote: Serghei
                    need Russian.

                    Who needs it?
                    1. Sergei
                      Sergei 6 December 2020 02: 25
                      +1
                      Naturally, who else.
                      Why is it insulting? How does Europe's soldering express itself for us?

                      Russia, Russians need it. In any case, they must be needed. Whether the Russian Federation needs it or not can be observed in practice. I am deprived of the illusion that they do not understand how they can and what to do.
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                    3. Cherry Nine
                      Cherry Nine 6 December 2020 02: 43
                      0
                      Quote: Serghei
                      that they do not understand how it is possible and what to do.

                      What they understood and could have done more than once in 30 years. How prettier the "Russian-speaking" people in the PMR and other places have become, cannot be described.
  • Vladimir247
    Vladimir247 5 December 2020 21: 10
    -4
    Alexander Staver, in my opinion, is one of the best authors on the Internet. Everything is clear, to the point, no deviations to the right and left. It attracts. Of course, the history of the conflict is shown very briefly, and without evaluations, but this apparently is no longer included in the format of the article.
  • mister-red
    mister-red 6 December 2020 21: 03
    +3
    On February 16, 1989, on behalf of the Writers' Union of Moldova, a draft law "On the functioning of languages ​​on the territory of the Moldavian SSR" was published. The main essence of this bill was that Moldovan became the state language, and for teaching Russian to schoolchildren, for the use of Russian in state institutions, at enterprises, etc. administrative and even criminal penalties were imposed.
    On September 1, 1989, this law ("On the Functioning of Languages ​​on the Territory of the Moldavian SSR") was adopted by the Parliament and is still in force.


    In fact, this is a distortion, the author would at least read this law.
    There are no criminal penalties there. On the contrary, the concept of interethnic language is introduced, which is Russian. All state institutions were supposed to have signs in Moldovan on top and Russian on the bottom. It's just that before that, all the plates were only in Russian. No training restrictions were imposed.

    The question is that the law has not been in effect for a long time and was declared anti-constitutional by the past liberal governments. If he did, there would be much less problems.

    Here is an excerpt
    Chapter I. General Provisions
    Article 1. In accordance with the Constitution (Basic Law) of the Moldavian SSR, the state language of the Moldavian SSR is the Moldavian language, which functions on the basis of the Latin script.
    The Moldovan language as the state language is used in all spheres of political, economic, social and cultural life and, in this regard, performs the function of the language of interethnic communication on the territory of the republic.
    The Moldavian SSR guarantees all residents of the republic free training in the state language at the level necessary for the performance of official duties.

    Article 2. In the areas where the majority of the population of the Gagauz nationality lives, the language of the official spheres of life is the state, Gagauz or Russian languages.

    Article 3. Russian as a language of interethnic communication in the USSR is used on the territory of the republic along with Moldovan as a language of interethnic communication, which ensures the implementation of real national-Russian and Russian-national bilingualism.

    Article 4. The Moldavian SSR guarantees the use of the Ukrainian, Russian, Bulgarian, Hebrew, Yiddish, Gypsy languages, languages ​​of other ethnic groups living on the territory of the republic to meet national and cultural needs.

    Article 5. This Law does not regulate the use of languages ​​in interpersonal relations, in the production activities of railway and air transport (except for the sphere of passenger services).

    Article 6. In relations with state authorities, state administration and public organizations, as well as with enterprises, institutions and organizations located on the territory of the Moldavian SSR, the language of oral and written communication - Moldovan or Russian - is chosen by the citizen. In areas with a population of Gagauz nationality, the right of a citizen to use the Gagauz language is guaranteed in these relations. In areas where the majority is the population of Ukrainian, Russian, Bulgarian or other nationalities, the native or other acceptable language is used for communication.

    Article 18. The Moldavian SSR guarantees the right to receive preschool education, general secondary, secondary specialized, vocational and higher education in Moldovan and Russian languages ​​and creates conditions for the realization of the right of citizens of other nationalities living in the republic to education and training in their native language (Gagauz, Ukrainian, Bulgarian, Hebrew, Yiddish, etc.).

    Article 19. Preschool institutions and general education schools are created on the principle of monolingualism. Office work, meetings, meetings, audiovisual information are carried out in them in the language of education and training. Preschool institutions and general education schools based on the principle of bilingualism are created in those settlements where the number of children and students does not allow opening monolingual preschool institutions and general education schools. Meetings, sessions, audiovisual information are carried out in them equally in the corresponding languages ​​of education and training, and office work - in the state language.
  • Vladimir Mashkov
    Vladimir Mashkov 6 December 2020 21: 26
    0
    Alexander wrote a solid article yesterday. And today Sandu has sharply aggravated the situation in Moldova. It looks like he's trying to stir up the Maidan. What it can end with is understandable. Well, we are watching closely.
  • Bonk838
    Bonk838 7 December 2020 02: 01
    +2
    ... These ideas, of course, did not agree with the east of the country, inhabited for the most part by Ukrainians, Russians, Armenians and other peoples of the USSR. "" "" "" "" (C) East of the country
    those. Transnistria, according to the population census of the PMR: Moldovans - 1/3, Russians - 1/3, Ukrainians - 1/3, where do you get the Armenians from and become the third people in the region !? I have nothing against the Armenians, but we are still not in the Caucasus, but in Moldova. Further, in general, a pearl on a pearl, like a mythical UN Security Council resolution, criminal liability for the use of the Russian language, etc. etc. The whole article is sheer juggling, pulling by the ears and juggling. Urgently, something needs to be written on the spite of the day, but to sit down and work seriously --- laziness or do not know how at all, I do not follow the author's work, to be honest, in general negative impressions of this article.
  • KreAtiF
    KreAtiF 7 December 2020 05: 06
    0
    Quote: Liam
    Quote: Serghei
    RF don't care about Russians from the right bank

    It’s such propaganda ... In Chisinau alone, there are much more Russian-speaking people than in the entire PMR. And something about pogroms and interethnic wars is not heard.

    You say that Sandu is good, then why does she herself raise the issue of peacekeepers and also advise Ukraine?
  • Junior Sergeant V.E.
    Junior Sergeant V.E. 8 December 2020 12: 57
    +1
    Russia could no longer stand on the sidelines of the conflict, and on July 7, 1992, representatives of Moscow arrived in Transnistria to resolve the conflict. The Moldovan government resigned and on July 21 an agreement was signed “On the principles of the settlement of the armed conflict in the Transnistrian region of the Republic of Moldova”.

    The author why write such misinformation? Representatives of different parties and organizations have flown to Transnistria more than once or twice before (YouTube is full of material) and it didn’t end well, alas. Probably in view of the chaos in Moscow itself. A. Lebed put a definite end to the conflict, having agreed upon the act of intimidation proposed by Chernobrivny, when of all the guns in the 14 army, the artifacts hit Moldovan positions for 45 minutes. And your vaunted representatives leash documented the results of the surrender and democratization of the act of intimidation proposed by Colonel Chernobrivny.
  • Lara Croft
    Lara Croft 8 December 2020 21: 00
    -1
    The MS of Russia includes two battalions of peacekeepers - the 82nd separate guards motorized rifle battalion (military unit 74273) and the 113th separate guards motorized rifle battalion (military unit 22137).

    Both are part of the OGRV, one of the two MSB, in turn (changing every year) is allocated to the "MS" ....
    Thus, from the military unit of the RF Armed Forces, only one MSB from the "MS" has a legitimate right to be located on the territory of Moldova (PMR - RF is not recognized), all other divisions of the OGRV are there illegally ... and the author only confirms this:
    The Assembly even passed a resolution on the need for such a conclusion. "On the complete and unconditional withdrawal of foreign armed forces from the territory of the Republic of Moldova." Only now this resolution is interpreted in an original way. Its essence is to withdraw the task force, not the peacekeepers.


    The warehouses of the former Odessa Military District of the USSR Armed Forces (where V and VTs are also stored for compounds withdrawn from Eastern Europe, as well as from the Second World War) on the territory of the PMR are the same hemorrhoids for the EU, like Arab and African refugees from Turkey ...
    Of course, 50% of V and VT were exported to the Russian Federation, but not only artillery ammunition remained in the warehouses ...
    The largest military warehouse in Kolbasna, left from the times of the USSR, will help to arm the units. According to reports, there are: · 100 tanks · Up to 200 armored personnel carriers and infantry fighting vehicles · 35 vehicles · Combat vehicles with ATGM · BDRM · 000 units of military engineering equipment · 500 air defense missile systems · MLRS "Grad" · Artillery guns and mortars · 200 thousand tons of usable ammunition (mines, grenades, cartridges, shells, engineering ammunition, etc.) 9 wagons of engineering equipment 130 automatic weapons and machine guns

    Read more: https://rusonline.org/armiya-i-opk/naskolko-silen-kontingent-armii-rossii-v-pridnestrove-smozhet-li-protivostoyat-armii

    The main thing is that the Russian Federation and Turkey do not at the same time be angry with the EU, otherwise it will be extremely comfortable for refugees armed to the teeth to ascend on barges along the upper Danube ... to Austria and the FRG ...