Who is after Lukashenka: which Belarusian president would be beneficial to Russia

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Who is after Lukashenka: which Belarusian president would be beneficial to Russia

The tumultuous events in Minsk showed that Alexander Lukashenko is still a "tough nut to crack," as "Mike and Nick" used to say. The pro-Western forces did not succeed in dropping him like Viktor Yanukovych: the scenario of the Kiev Maidan in Minsk turned out to be untenable. The siloviki fully supported the president, and the sympathies of the bulk of the population, as it should be assumed, are rather on his side. But the fact that Lukashenka manages to retain power today does not mean that it will be so tomorrow: everything passes, and the time of the “Belarusian daddy” rule will also come to an end.

Which president in Belarus would be beneficial to Russia. It's worth pondering.



So, today the question of a successor inevitably arises. And here Lukashenka himself has a weak spot: like many authoritarian rulers, he did not think in time about who could replace him as the head of state, or made plans to erect one of his sons after himself as president. The latter option, by the way, is not so unviable: for example, Bashar al-Assad has long led Syria after his father Hafez Assad passed away. Why go far, even in the "stronghold of democracy" of the United States there are hereditary presidents like the Bush.

But it is one thing - whom does Lukashenko himself want to keep in the presidency, and quite another - who in this capacity will be beneficial to Russia. It is in the interests of our country to leave Belarus in the sphere of Russian influence, while preventing pro-Western proteges from coming to power. Accordingly, the promising president of Belarus should have, first of all, immunity from excessive love for everything American and European. The course is towards Moscow and the further development of relations with Russia within the framework of both the project of the union state and the broader Eurasian partnership.

At the same time, the promising president of Belarus should not flirt strongly with Belarusian nationalism. In recent years, Lukashenko has significantly changed his foreign policy and tried to show Russia his teeth. It didn't work out - as soon as protesters poured out onto the streets of Minsk, it turned out that there was simply no one to turn to Vladimir Putin, no one in the West saw him at the head of the Belarusian state, and homegrown nationalists always opposed him, considering him too pro-Russian ...

By the way, a nationalist president will not be useful to Belarus itself, as this will inevitably entail internal problems in the Belarusian state itself. Artificial confrontation between the Belarusian and Russian according to the Ukrainian scenario can lead, if not to the disintegration of the country, then to a significant destabilization of the situation, and least of all the Belarusians themselves need it.

Thus, the President of Belarus, who will replace Lukashenko, should be guided not by the West, but by Russia, but at the same time not repeat the mistakes of the old man and not flirt with anti-Russian nationalism. The support of such a person should be the inhabitants of Belarus, and not the bureaucracy or narrow political forces.

At the same time, he must be such a politician who would be strong enough to prevent numerous provocations and in the bud crush subversive activities against Belarus as an ally of Russia. After all, there is no doubt that the West will not stop its hostile activities in Belarus.

With the departure of such a strong figure as Lukashenko, the United States and NATO will try to further shake the situation in the republic and achieve the coming to power of anti-Russian forces. For this, a variety of measures will be taken - from attempts to bribe representatives of the Belarusian elite to provoking mass riots, it is possible that with planned victims.

Finally, which is also very important for the modern Belarusian reality, such a leader should have unconditional authority among the Belarusian security forces. Lukashenka has it with interest: he was unconditionally supported by the army, and the security organs, and the internal affairs bodies. Therefore, it is also important for his successor to enlist the support of people in uniform, otherwise the consequences, in conditions of constant pressure from the West and provocations of the pro-Western opposition, may be the most unpredictable.

But, perhaps, the most important feature of a person who will ascend to the presidency after Alexander Lukashenko is predictable and, if I may say so, "one-vector". In case of the well-known "shuffling" from side to side, the internal political field in Belarus itself will not become calm and beneficial for development.
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  1. +14
    3 December 2020 12: 03
    Which president in Belarus would be beneficial to Russia.
    - Russian hi
    1. +14
      3 December 2020 12: 13
      Quote: faiver
      - Russian

      And who said that ours is beneficial to us?
      1. +6
        3 December 2020 12: 14
        So I didn't seem to indicate my full name bully
      2. +2
        3 December 2020 12: 22
        So what is your difference from the "Belarusian opposition"?
      3. -5
        3 December 2020 12: 24
        And who said that our us profitable?


        It is not profitable for us .. but he constantly gives loans to Belarusians ..))
        1. 0
          3 December 2020 13: 57
          Quote: Roman070280
          It is not profitable for us .. but he constantly gives loans to Belarusians ..))

          In addition to the Belarusians, he gives out money to everyone and forgives loans, and even shoots his homies with gold without measure.
          Evil tongues claim that again 220 tons of redhead flew somewhere towards the foggy albion of Her Majesty.
          And sho is for the RB placeshgenia, so pot-bellied trifle.
          1. -6
            3 December 2020 15: 13
            The main requirement to the future President of Belarus (Lukashenko's replacement) - he should be pro-Russian. Without any wobbling and "multi-vector"! Then Belarusians will be fine. AND next president Belarusians may be (if they decide so) the Russian President ... smile
            1. 0
              3 December 2020 20: 50
              Quote: Vladimir Mashkov
              The main requirement for the future president of Belarus (Lukashenko's replacement) is that he must be pro-Russian. Without any wobbling and "multi-vector"! Then the Belarusians will be fine. And the next president of the Belarusians may be (if they decide so) the Russian President ...

              Wow, how many zmagars came running to me! laughing
          2. -1
            3 December 2020 19: 42
            Achinea is easier to carry than a log.
            1. 0
              4 December 2020 09: 55
              Here is "Lenin and the Log" I really saw a picture at school ..
              And "Putin in the Galleys" has not yet happened.
        2. 0
          3 December 2020 14: 22
          I missed it. Who is not beneficial to you?
          1. 0
            3 December 2020 19: 55
            Who is after Lukashenka: which Belarusian president would be beneficial to Russia

      4. 0
        3 December 2020 13: 04
        Can give it to Belarusians
      5. +5
        3 December 2020 14: 46
        Quote: Stroporez
        Quote: faiver
        - Russian

        And who said that ours is beneficial to us?

        Exactly .. what does it mean beneficial? Benefit for whom? it is different for everyone .. It is beneficial for both peoples to have one ruler. Ukraine and Belarus should unite under the red flag. It will be beneficial.
      6. 0
        3 December 2020 19: 40
        Do you understand the question?
    2. +11
      3 December 2020 12: 24
      It is in the interests of our country to leave Belarus in the sphere of Russian influence,

      Which means "in Russian content". Then the governor of the Belarusian territory or the head of the Republic of Belarus is beneficial to Russia. The other options are to get "multi-vector" again.
    3. +15
      3 December 2020 13: 40
      Kapets, the priest themselves are in shit, and they think what kind of president is needed in Belarus. To begin with, you will make the Russian president beneficial to Russia.
      1. +5
        3 December 2020 14: 54
        The question posed in the article smacks of pure chauvinism. The author thinks only about his own narrow interests. It is correct to put the question as follows: "Which president of Belarus will be beneficial to Belarusians?"
        For example, how does Lukashenka benefit from the common people of Russia? On the contrary, it is harmful, constantly begs for loans, help and discounts on gas and oil. And what in return?
    4. +12
      3 December 2020 13: 42
      Quote: faiver
      Which president in Belarus would be beneficial to Russia.
      - Russian hi

      In fact, the question is not which President of Belarus is beneficial to Russia. With this, everything is just as clear as on a fine summer day.
      The question must be posed differently. What does Russia need to do to elect a pro-Russian-oriented president in Belarus and how can this be achieved?
      To flood Belarus with money again, endure insults and boorish attitude towards Russia, silently watch how Russian property is being robbed and plundered in Belarus - this is the way to nowhere, but unfortunately Russia in the post-Soviet space has not yet developed a mechanism for a bloodless change of power in former Soviet republics, in which the newly elected president of a particular country remained loyal to Russia and built equal relations with it.
      So a beautiful article filled with our Wishlist is not capable of changing anything yet, even in Belarus, a country that seems to be a member of the Union State.
      Lukashenko quickly forgot all his promises about the constitutional reform and about the transfer of goods from Belarus to Russian ports. He seems to have forgotten everything except his manner to blame all the flaws on anyone except himself, therefore, apart from heartburn and complete rejection of his demeanor, he does not cause anything.
      Russia needs to develop a mechanism for the emergence of adequate and loyal politicians in the countries around us, and not to adapt to the next inadequacy with the manners of a "great strategist."
      1. +4
        3 December 2020 21: 13
        but the article did not reach me at all - well, what Assad what monarchy - the 21st century is the center of Europe.
        initially the message is not correct - not to bet on the individual, but on the interests of the Belarusian majority.
        and the article is a hypothetical outline - the time period is two years - all the same names - the Gazprom banker Babarik is still sitting in the prison ...
        the more Russia supports the Takrakan, the less chance of any of its protégés
    5. +1
      3 December 2020 17: 31
      And what can be the benefit from the president?
    6. 0
      7 December 2020 18: 03
      Quote: faiver
      Which president in Belarus would be beneficial to Russia.
      - Russian hi

      If he was alive - Aleksander Ivanovich Lebed.
  2. +6
    3 December 2020 12: 06
    "which Belarusian president would be beneficial to Russia"
    Remove the word "Belarusian"
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  4. +9
    3 December 2020 12: 15
    It depends on what kind of Russia. Here's to start with yourself. If the BR practically tried to preserve the socialist system, then many “former” ones would have united with Russia, which had embarked on a “socialist track,” and the necessary presidents would have been found. But with the "liberal democrats" .... right into the arms of Tikhanovskaya. I do not like? Well, think faster, WHO is needed.
    1. +4
      3 December 2020 15: 36
      Quote: Egoza
      Here's to start with yourself. If the BR practically tried to preserve the socialist system,

      I'll correct it a little bit in Belarus they tried to preserve not the socialist system, but simply the system as ranks and columns.
  5. +12
    3 December 2020 12: 15
    Blah blah blah about nothing. There is no other way out than unification! "Suvyarennosts" is failing, it is an illusion. They also want to make us an anti-Russian buffer, to make us enemies of Russia and the Russian people.
    1. +6
      3 December 2020 12: 45
      Quote: Garist Paul
      Blah blah blah about nothing. There is no other way out than unification! "Suvyarennosts" is failing, it is an illusion. They also want to make us an anti-Russian buffer, to make us enemies of Russia and the Russian people.

      Paul, a hammer is better than an anvil anyway. Between them ... certain doom.
      You can find out who is the hammer and who is the anvil from ... the inscriptions on the Reichstag.
  6. 0
    3 December 2020 12: 18
    but to Russia, but at the same time not to repeat the mistakes of the old man and not to flirt with anti-Russian nationalism
    ... Please decipher the concept of anti-Russian nationalism, is there such a concept as pro-Russian nationalism? Nationalism, first of all, is some kind of phobia and anti-Sovietism. How can a phobia be anti-Russian or pro-Russian?
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    1. +4
      3 December 2020 12: 40
      Dmitry Baeshko (Dmitry Baeshko)... Read your comment carefully? Let's take a look? So.
      1. In opposition now the powers that be and "weak". That is, in opposition to Lukashenka, the persons you indicated.
      2. B O L S H I N S T V O of the Belarusian people fiercely hates them. Hates those in power who are in opposition. In other words, the people are for Lukashenka.
      3. Continue and further support the bloody dictator ... that is. You are for supporting Lukashenka.
      4. And you remember what a partisan war is! .. Where is partisan war on the territory of Belarus, which is organized by those in power who are in opposition? And who do the people hate?
      1. -1
        3 December 2020 12: 47
        Quote: Daniil Konovalenko
        In other words, the people are for Lukashenka.

        Are you a Belarusian? Obviously not. Otherwise, there would be no such words.
        1. +6
          3 December 2020 12: 52
          Have you read the commentary on the commentary? If so, explain you who are the powers that be, who are in opposition and whom the people hate. I am not a Belarus, I live in Russia. A lot of relatives are scattered across the territory of the former Union. close, but in the blood of whoever is not ...
          1. +4
            3 December 2020 14: 53
            So this is the whole point of incredible Belarusian zmagarei. A terrible mess in my head. Well, how can you fight "fascism" under Schutzman's flags and slogans? Call on workers of state-owned enterprises to strike, and when these workers fix the pump for three days, raise a universal howl about torture and the ghetto. Can you imagine sleek, well-groomed and well-fed ghetto prisoners in expensive cars and not cheaply packed? Welcome to the Novaya Borovaya ghetto or Lebyazhy ghetto. And can you imagine a worker activist from the "strike committee" who "works for a bowl of stew", but at the same time manages to relax abroad several times a year? Welcome to Grodno Azot. And our zmagarei have such garbage all the time.
        2. +1
          4 December 2020 01: 26
          Yes, he is not Russian. What is Belarus? Is the genetic code special? What are some direct non-Russian cultural features? And it is clear that their ancestors are mostly Krivichi and some of them know the trasyanka And even (oh, horror) they live next to Western countries (well, conditionally Western, such as Poland, Lithuania, etc.) - This is of course a "serious" argument that is not Russian))) Here there is Russian and not Russian it is clear it is obvious and logical What and whom do you mean by the word Belarus? Now this is unclear, this must be clarified, and people do not understand
    2. 0
      3 December 2020 15: 33
      Is it you that will run to the partisan? Wipe the snot and don't wow. Svyadomy or what? So we still have enough swamps for people like you?
      1. 0
        3 December 2020 15: 42
        This answer is D. Breshko-Baeshko. And also to him and others like him - apparently you got on the bottom of the democratizer, so you hiss like a half-crushed snake. And do not blame the ALL PEOPLE OF BELARUS for their mania.
        Someone may not be loved by those who got in the ass. And the rest are waiting for the number of podzhops to finally turn into quality, and the zmagars will at least a little wiser and stay at home and start working, and not wander around the city with police rags.
  8. -4
    3 December 2020 12: 21
    which Belarusian president would be beneficial to Russia


    If you put the question this way, then there is only one option - Putin ..))
  9. +4
    3 December 2020 12: 22
    "The sympathies of the bulk of the people of Belarus" - no.
    Russian International Affairs Council published results of sociological research - Russia risks losing sympathy of Belarusians

    As follows from the results, in general the attitude towards Russia is still good - 82% of the respondents spoke positively about our eastern neighbor. However, almost half of the respondents (45,6%) said that their opinion about Russia has deteriorated after she expressed her support for Lukashenka after electoral fraud and the start of terror against the country's civilian population. More than half (51,4%) disagree with the interpretation of the events in Belarus by the Russian media.

    According to the study, 72% of Belarusians do not support the current regime. At the same time, 38% of respondents said that they participate or are ready to actively support the protests, the remaining 34% support the demands of the protesters, but they themselves are not ready to take risks due to fear of reprisals.

    The majority of respondents (73%), regardless of their views, believe that Russia is the main support of the Lukashenka regime. In the view of the Belarusians, it turns out that Russia shares responsibility for the actions of the regime. This means that in case of his further support, the attitude of Belarusians towards Russia and the Russian leadership will inevitably deteriorate.
    THC material
    1. -5
      3 December 2020 15: 44
      Citizen Dimid, would you please inform us who conducted this "survey"? From each phrase protrude the ears of specialists in information-psychological warfare from the West. However, even here there are already their fosterlings.
    2. +1
      3 December 2020 16: 14
      Double-checked. I did not delve into the numbers. The survey actually exists
      https://russiancouncil.ru/analytics-and-comments/columns/postsoviet/kak-belorusskiy-politicheskiy-krizis-menyaet-otnoshenie-belorusov-k-rossii/?sphrase_id=63253586
    3. -4
      3 December 2020 17: 18
      72% of Belarusians do not support the current regime
      If that were so, Lukashenka would have been a Rostovite long ago. Judging by how events are developing, at least half of the Belarusians are for him.
      1. -1
        3 December 2020 17: 28
        Add up "observers" and "protesters", or better follow the link
        1. -2
          3 December 2020 17: 34
          Who was interviewed and where? If you conduct a survey in a drug den, then everyone will tell you that all normal people use drugs and they benefit from it wassat and if you conduct a survey in the bar "blue moon" laughing then you will find out that 99% of the population are connoisseurs of male beauty belay After conducting an opinion poll on the Internet, you will find out that 100% of the population has the Internet. Poll-like a drawbar
          1. 0
            6 December 2020 02: 30
            Quote: Bolt Cutter
            Who was interviewed and where?

            were interviewed in Minsk. Dimid hangs up the noodles. Yes
  10. +3
    3 December 2020 12: 27
    very, very glad to have such deep, serious articles on VO.
    Keep it up.
    just did not see in the lines who will replace Luke? maybe his cat?
    this mystery is great ...
  11. +3
    3 December 2020 12: 27
    Can we talk about what kind of president does Russia need?
    1. -1
      3 December 2020 13: 02
      Speak, let's listen. fellow
      1. +2
        3 December 2020 15: 06
        I say: who will return pensions, who will raise salaries, but not to his friends, but to us, the people. Who will take effective measures to limit the flight of citizens abroad, to raise the birth rate, that is, he will see that the country's population is decreasing. Which will squeeze the thieves at least a little, which will reduce the herd of officials. Which cadres for responsible posts will be selected for professional qualities, and not for personal devotion and for the patronage of the same mediocrity.
        1. 0
          3 December 2020 18: 31
          You probably re-read fairy tales in childhood, you have a distorted idea of ​​reality. You want honey, and even with a tablespoon. Well, can you name at least one such country, only about the striped silence.
        2. 0
          6 December 2020 02: 33
          Quote: Fan-Fan
          I say: who will return pensions, who will raise salaries, but not to his friends, but to us, the people.

          "Sister's name! Say his name !!!" lol
  12. +10
    3 December 2020 12: 31
    In Belarus, there are few of those who think and understand that without Russia and the Russian sales market, Belarus is not viable enough. The problem is, most people don't think. In this environment, there is an opinion that one should live like Switzerland. To be friends with the EU and Russia, to maintain neutrality in this friendship. And "a mustache of goodness". The demand for change is very large. In conversations with each other, you will not meet many people who are "for the father". There are few people on the streets, not because of him, but because:
    a) are afraid of losing their job
    b) not used to acting independently.
    Leadership is actively blocked from the outside, there are no local leaders. If there were adequate leaders, we would see a lot of people on the streets. And this mass would care what happened next.
    Those who understand that there are not so few without Russia, and they are divided into several groups:
    a) those who do not accept the oligarchic power in Russia and do not want the arrival of the Russian business (wild capitalist) in the country. They don't know how to solve this dilemma
    b) those who do not care who rules in Russia, if only they got it.
    Among the people, for the most part, after the open support of Lukashenka by Putin, hostility to the Russian government is growing (just as hostility is growing to the coordinating council of Sveta).
    None of the ruling elite will openly support the course of further rapprochement with Russia - it has become toxic.
    The tangle of contradictions among the people is growing and what this will result in - no one knows.
  13. +5
    3 December 2020 12: 32
    Lukashenka cleared up the entire pro-Russian field in Belarus with a specialty. Perhaps the Tikhanovskaya project is also his project. It is not for nothing that Lukashenka himself admitted that the KGB of Belarus took Tikhanovskaya abroad. And I would not agree with the author that Batka was so unconditionally supported by all the siloviki (the last leaks of telephone conversations of the top of Belarus on the Internet, which showed its complete degradation, is a vivid confirmation of this).
  14. +3
    3 December 2020 12: 36
    Let the author bring up a "useful" president for Russia))))). And then it writes like a choosy bride.
  15. +2
    3 December 2020 12: 37
    Quote: ROSS 42
    and we will talk about the "suitability" and "unsuitability" of the Belarusian presidents after we create a single union state.

    So it would be high time to prepare and hold a referendum on the entry of the regions into the Russian Federation, so the union state is ready. And some kind of president is not needed, if anything, then Kolya can be made the governor of the Minsk region
    1. +1
      4 December 2020 18: 49
      Quote: svoit
      Quote: ROSS 42
      and we will talk about the "suitability" and "unsuitability" of the Belarusian presidents after we create a single union state.

      So it would be high time to prepare and hold a referendum on the entry of the regions into the Russian Federation, so the union state is ready. And some kind of president is not needed, if anything, then Kolya can be made the governor of the Minsk region

      Are you sure that the majority of the people of the Republic of Belarus are asleep and see themselves as part of Russia and are ready to vote in a single impulse for joining it?
  16. -1
    3 December 2020 12: 40
    With all due respect to GrYgorovich, he never chose an intelligent successor from among the officials of the Republic of Belarus. Are there really no smart, intelligent leaders left among the Belarusians? I will never believe.
    1. +9
      3 December 2020 12: 45
      Such as Lukashenka, you do not hold the above. Their priority is stupid performers and "girls with low social responsibility."
      1. -1
        3 December 2020 13: 29
        With regards to ,, girls with ,, responsibility ,, this is his own business. To your health. But choosing a replacement for yourself is not just important but necessary.
        1. +1
          3 December 2020 13: 42
          The fact is that these "girls" cast a shadow on the entire presidential apparatus. An example is his press secretary "Natasha - Massandra", in the world Natalia Eismont.
    2. +3
      3 December 2020 13: 27
      Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich
      With all due respect to GrYgorovich, he never chose an intelligent successor from among the officials of the Republic of Belarus.

      Was he going to choose?
    3. +1
      3 December 2020 14: 15
      All who are smart or abroad or in prison, the protests are proof of this!
      1. -3
        3 December 2020 15: 49
        V. Surko - just the opposite, the most stupid people run through the streets with police rags under the leadership of the meanest who receive money from the West.
  17. +5
    3 December 2020 12: 50
    The West needs Belarus as a springboard. This means that as a result of any pro-Western forces coming to power in Belarus, the result will be repression against all who are dangerous to the NATO bloc (even morally). The next step is the collapse of the country's economy - after all, it is easier to manage the poor (in order to ensure the elementary survival of his family, a person is often ready to commit even a crime). The next step will be to make Belarusians and Russians enemies and turn Belarusians into cannon fodder to fight the Russian Federation. People who have allowed enemy troops threatening the Russian Federation into their territory will be perceived by the Russians as traitors ... Next - war!
    1. +4
      3 December 2020 13: 29
      to make Belarusians and Russians enemies and turn Belarusians into cannon fodder to fight the Russian Federation. People who admitted enemy troops threatening the Russian Federation into their territory will be perceived by the Russians as traitors ... Next - war!


      What a heresy ..))

      Who needs to fight the slaves who themselves extract and supply oil, gas, timber, gold, etc. for a penny?
      Instead of us, the Portuguese and the Spaniards will come to work here .. who want to receive at the rate of 1 to 90 .. and we, the local aborigines, will have to feed them too ??)

      When people already stop listening to nonsense from TV, open their eyes and look around themselves ..


      PS .. If someone is still raving about the fact that "America wants to seize our resources," why not capture much less protected continents ?? Pralno .. PatamuSTA they get all this and so .. and American blacks are not at all eager to go to their old homeland and work in the mines ..))


      Compared to other regions, Africa is in first place in the number of manganese, gold, diamonds and other mineral raw materials. A huge number of oil and gas fields are the hallmark of the continent.

      Africa accounts for 25 percent of the world's total mining industry. However, almost all mineral raw materials are exported abroad. Fuel is usually exported to countries with a higher standard of living, most often to Europe.
      In the Atlas highlands, reserves of manganese, iron, base metals and phosphorites have been discovered.

      The Egyptian region has oil, gas, iron, titanium and phosphorites.

      In Libya and Algeria, in part of the Sahara Desert, the largest reserves of oil and gas have been discovered.

      The West Guinean part is rich in gold, diamonds, iron, graphite.

      The East Guinea part has reserves of oil, gas and various metals.

      In the Zairian-Zambian region there is one of the largest in the world "Copper Belt", which is saturated with high-quality copper ore, in addition, there is a lot of zinc, cobalt, lead, gold and silver. Zaire is the world's largest supplier of cobalt.

      The most significant area for the extraction of minerals is located on the territory of three states: Botswana, Zimbabwe and South Africa. In these countries, there are deposits of various ore and nonmetallic, as well as fuel minerals, except for oil and gas.
      Thus, the states with large reserves of mineral raw materials include: Algeria, Morocco, Egypt, Gabon, South Africa and Botswana.

      Countries in which deposits of one or two types of minerals exist are: Nigeria, Libya, Mauritania, Angola, Mozambique, Uganda, Angola.

    2. +4
      3 December 2020 14: 38
      The old man has so cleaned up the opposition that it is essentially not there. BPF as an opposition is laughter. Tikhanovskaya is the money of the West raised for "tired of Old Man" and the younger generation, which has not seen another president. So much for the protests. And the Russian Federation just sits out and waits for what will happen to the Old Man and the protests. There is no pro-Russian opposition (normal party) in Belarus to have funding, the leader is normal. And so Russia is losing the information war in Belarus. The old man will leave, and who will become, it should have long been cultivated in the brains of the people. And so Tikhanovskaya on every word. Where is the alternative ??
      1. 0
        3 December 2020 16: 25
        Quote: Azimut
        There is no opposition (normal party) pro-Russian in Belarus

        And where does it come from? From dampness or what?
        They themselves said:
        Quote: Azimut
        Daddy cleaned up the opposition so that it essentially does not exist
  18. -8
    3 December 2020 12: 59
    Therefore, in my opinion, it should be someone from the security forces. Desirable from the special services, only they have the most complete information. bully
  19. +2
    3 December 2020 13: 44
    Who is after Lukashenka: which Belarusian president would be beneficial to Russia

    The article is named incorrectly.
    Who is after Lukashenka: which Belarusian president would be beneficial to those in power in Russia. So.
    From Russia, only the concept of territory has long been left.
  20. Cop
    +5
    3 December 2020 13: 45
    Alexander Lukashenko is still a "tough nut to crack," as "Mike and Nick" used to say.
    Well, the author, remember the Soviet film .... "..... it's a wall." Answer: ".... the wall, but rotten, poke and fall apart ....". So here, against grandmothers and students, he can fight ...
    The siloviki fully supported the president ...
    Come on, but what about the site where you can report the crimes of the security forces. Evil tongues claim that one of its founders is just a former security official.
    .... and the sympathies of the main part of the population, as it should be assumed, are rather on their side.
    Why then is this main part not on the street? And they don't chant, for example, "Father, our president!" You will remember how this main part defended Yushchenko in his time in Ukraine.
    Which president in Belarus would be beneficial to Russia.
    The author, you are so small. Yes, the one that includes the Republic of Belarus in Russia as a federal district. Well, you remember what our president said on this. He hinted at the federal district.
    It didn't work out - as soon as protesters poured into the streets of Minsk, it turned out that there was simply no one to turn to except Vladimir Putin, Alexander Grigorievich,
    Listen, well, you really be consistent in your reasoning. And then you have a significant part of the population supports him, and sometimes there is no one to turn to.
    Artificial confrontation between Belarusian and Russian according to the Ukrainian scenario can lead, if not to the disintegration of the country, then to a significant destabilization of the situation
    Mr. Girkin once said that if it were not for Russia's help, then everything in Donbas would have ended with two hundred Russian corpses, and now there would be no war there. And for some reason I tend to believe him. He is a very well informed gentleman. Here I think the situation is the same.
    The support of such a person should be the inhabitants of Belarus,
    So they have such a person, he is still in prison.
    But, perhaps, the most important feature of a person who will ascend to the presidency after Alexander Lukashenko is predictable and, if I may put it that way, "one-vector"
    But I think it's just honesty.
    Py Sy: Author, when writing this article, you had to use not only manuals, but also, let's say, other opinions.
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  22. +2
    3 December 2020 14: 08
    But it is one thing - whom does Lukashenko himself want to keep in the presidency, and quite another - who in this capacity will be beneficial to Russia.

    And the third, who will be the president of Russia at this time ...
  23. +3
    3 December 2020 14: 08
    "Yes, and the sympathies of the bulk of the population, as one should assume, are rather on their side."
    Yeah, of course, every day we see crowds of his supporters - do not push through.
    1. -1
      6 December 2020 02: 46
      Quote: Anton S
      Yeah, of course, every day we see crowds of his supporters - do not push through.

      of course you don't see .. they work. parasites run through the streets under fascist rags, so you see them. request
      and with the strike the light-catlet crumpled wink
      1. +2
        6 December 2020 10: 27
        Quote: SanichSan
        Quote: Anton S
        Yeah, of course, every day we see crowds of his supporters - do not push through.

        of course you don't see .. they work. parasites run through the streets under fascist rags, so you see them. request
        and with the strike the light-catlet crumpled wink

        You are wrong. To get an objective opinion about the mood in the Belarusian society, go at least to TUT.by (the most visited Internet portal in the Republic of Belarus). Read comments on topical topics and see the number of likes and dislikes under them. Maybe reconsider your opinion about Belarus for Lukashenko. And those who leave, in the overwhelming majority, are not unemployed.
        1. 0
          9 December 2020 13: 54
          Quote: Anton S
          To get an objective opinion about the mood in the Belarusian society, visit at least TUT.by (the most visited Internet portal in the Republic of Belarus).

          Antosha, are you serious ??? belay and in 1941, would you advise to read what Goebbels writes?
          it is a Polish resource controlled by Poles and funded by Poles with a single focus - support of riots in the Republic of Belarus... this is not a different opinion on the issue and not the Belarusians. and they have already been caught on outright lies many times wink
          advising this you declare in plain text - I'm talking about a Polish propagandist opposing Belarus.
          1. 0
            9 December 2020 19: 26
            Quote: SanichSan
            Quote: Anton S
            To get an objective opinion about the mood in the Belarusian society, visit at least TUT.by (the most visited Internet portal in the Republic of Belarus).

            Antosha, are you serious ??? belay and in 1941, would you advise to read what Goebbels writes?
            it is a Polish resource controlled by Poles and funded by Poles with a single focus - support of riots in the Republic of Belarus... this is not a different opinion on the issue and not the Belarusians. and they have already been caught on outright lies many times wink
            advising this you declare in plain text - I'm talking about a Polish propagandist opposing Belarus.

            First: I'm not Antosha for you;
            Secondly: you can write as much as you want about the agents of the State Department, lace panties, Soros, etc., but the fact remains that TUT.by is the most visited Internet portal in Belarus.
            1. 0
              9 December 2020 23: 19
              Quote: Anton S
              Secondly: you can write as much as you want about the agents of the State Department, lace panties, Soros, etc., but the fact remains that TUT.by is the most visited Internet portal in Belarus.

              and without lies in any way? who is "most visited"? by you personally? Well, yes .. this is an indicator! wassat
              you are so lying in your "vseprotivlukashenko" that you do not see the facts, but the facts are such that protests go out for one and a half to two thousand which they paid, and "all the people of Belarus" put a bolt on your protests, and not just put, but already begins to beat the protestors , as the one that was not pumped out. the promised "general strike" turned into a booth and clearly showed that "omnimus" is a myth and a complete zero Yes
              1. 0
                10 December 2020 00: 54
                Quote: SanichSan
                Quote: Anton S
                Secondly: you can write as much as you want about the agents of the State Department, lace panties, Soros, etc., but the fact remains that TUT.by is the most visited Internet portal in Belarus.

                and without lies in any way? who is "most visited"? by you personally? Well, yes .. this is an indicator! wassat
                you are so lying in your "vseprotivlukashenko" that you do not see the facts, but the facts are such that protests go out for one and a half to two thousand which they paid, and "all the people of Belarus" put a bolt on your protests, and not just put, but already begins to beat the protestors , as the one that was not pumped out. the promised "general strike" turned into a booth and clearly showed that "omnimus" is a myth and a complete zero Yes

                Okay, Shurochka, staying in your parallel reality, refute my "lies" and name the most visited Belarusian site in Belarus.
                1. 0
                  10 December 2020 01: 27
                  Quote: Anton S
                  Okay, Shurochka, staying in your parallel reality, refute my "lies" and name the most visited Belarusian site in Belarus.

                  I don't keep statistics, but I'm more than sure that this is VK wink doubt Antosha? lol
                  1. 0
                    10 December 2020 09: 25
                    Quote: SanichSan
                    Quote: Anton S
                    Okay, Shurochka, staying in your parallel reality, refute my "lies" and name the most visited Belarusian site in Belarus.

                    I don't keep statistics, but I'm more than sure that this is VK wink doubt Antosha? lol

                    in VK girls and boys put plus signs under the photos and many of them do not know who Lukashenko is and where Belarus is.
                    To concretize: name the most visited informational Internet portal in the bynet segment.
                    As for "they began to beat the protestors," Dmitry Shakuta, a former professional fighter and hand-to-hand combat instructor in military unit 3214 (special forces of the Internal Troops) (currently located in the Russian Federation) and Dmitry Baskov, president of the Belarusian ice hockey federation, were involved in the beating of Bondarenko in relation to which an investigation was launched by the International Ice Hockey Federation in connection with his involvement in the beating of Roman Bondarenko. These two characters are not very similar to ordinary caring citizens.
                    If there are only two thousand protesters who have been paid, then why would Lukashenka be afraid to change the Constitution, after the adoption of which, according to him, he will no longer be president? He claims that 80% is behind him.
                    About the TUT.by fakes: give examples of the disclosures you mentioned above (hint: the amount of false information on TUT.by is 0,06%) Or don't you keep statistics either?
                    1. 0
                      12 December 2020 01: 42
                      Quote: Anton S
                      I will concretize: name the most visited information Internet portal in segment bynet.

                      I, and most of Belarusians, do not even know what this segment is wassat the fact that TUT.by is the most visited in some unpopular segment, well, that's cool .. senior assistant to junior janitor wassat
                      Quote: Anton S
                      These two characters are not very similar to ordinary caring citizens.
                      they are just the most. wink the fact that they were beaten to death is undoubtedly a crime, but both of them are not members of law enforcement agencies and therefore acted exactly as ordinary citizens. request
                      Quote: Anton S
                      If there are only two thousand protesters who have been paid, then why would Lukashenka be afraid to change the Constitution, after the adoption of which he will no longer be president, according to him?
                      that is, does it bother you that the reform was planned even before the elections?
                      Quote: Anton S
                      About TUT.by fakes: give examples of the disclosures you mentioned above
                      No problem! at least the indicated number of protesters and statements of strikes. both turned out to be clearly expressed nonsense, and this was the basis of the protests. that is, the basis of this propaganda is false and what is there to further rassusolate about? request
                      Quote: Anton S
                      (hint: the amount of inaccurate information on TUT.by is 0,06%.) Or don't you keep statistics either?

                      and this is also according to your personal statistics taken from the ceiling? Well, okay.
                      1. 0
                        12 December 2020 11: 14
                        Quote: SanichSan
                        Quote: Anton S
                        I will concretize: name the most visited information Internet portal in segment bynet.

                        I, and most of Belarusians, do not even know what this segment is wassat the fact that TUT.by is the most visited in some unpopular segment, well, that's cool .. senior assistant to junior janitor wassat
                        Quote: Anton S
                        These two characters are not very similar to ordinary caring citizens.
                        they are just the most. wink the fact that they were beaten to death is undoubtedly a crime, but both of them are not members of law enforcement agencies and therefore acted exactly as ordinary citizens. request
                        Quote: Anton S
                        If there are only two thousand protesters who have been paid, then why would Lukashenka be afraid to change the Constitution, after the adoption of which he will no longer be president, according to him?
                        that is, does it bother you that the reform was planned even before the elections?
                        Quote: Anton S
                        About TUT.by fakes: give examples of the disclosures you mentioned above
                        No problem! at least the indicated number of protesters and statements of strikes. both turned out to be clearly expressed nonsense, and this was the basis of the protests. that is, the basis of this propaganda is false and what is there to further rassusolate about? request
                        Quote: Anton S
                        (hint: the amount of inaccurate information on TUT.by is 0,06%.) Or don't you keep statistics either?

                        and this is also according to your personal statistics taken from the ceiling? Well, okay.

                        Shakuta-instructor of hand-to-hand combat in military unit 3214 of the special forces of the internal troops, maroon beret (well, it does not apply to the security forces, just an ordinary citizen) Both (both Shakuta and Basque play hockey with AHL, probably we have a country more hockey than Canada, if ordinary citizens with the president in
                        in the same team go out on the ice) In general, citizens, you can not imagine easier.
                        For those who understand everything, but do not know what a bynet is.Bynet is the Belarusian part of the Internet (and in this part TUT.by is the most visited site).
                        Remind, please, when the AHL before the elections spoke about the constitutional reform, after which he will not be president (I can not find it anywhere).
                        Continue to wishful thinking, it’s probably easier to live this way.
                      2. 0
                        13 December 2020 01: 01
                        did we talk about fakes here recently?
                        Quote: Anton S
                        Shakuta instructor of hand-to-hand combat in the military unit 3214 of the special forces of the internal troops

                        that's a lie wink he served there almost 10 years ago 2 years. that is, the instructor is there former.. very former. haven't you been trained to verify information? only believe? so back in 2019 he was listed in the SOBRr, but this does not change the fact that you are lying, or rather not you, but the sources that you cite without bothering to check wink
                        and so, for a change, do you know that an employee not on duty is a civilian?
                        Quote: Anton S
                        In general, citizens cannot be easier.

                        hmm .. watched the video ... by the way did you watch the video? there is almost no Baskov on the video. he only participated in a verbal skirmish, Shakuta, in general, does not touch the pizriot, hands him over to some three figures who pack Bondarenko into a car and leaves... Let me remind you that at this moment Bondarenko is alive and well and is not even badly dented during transportation.
                        and so attention to the question, what kind of bullshit about Shakut and Baskov are you rubbing in here? the one that you read in the most honest press?
                        Quote: Anton S
                        Remind, please, when the AHL before the elections spoke about the constitutional reform, after which he will not be president (I can not find it anywhere).

                        please request
                        https://naviny.media/article/20190531/1559314165-chto-tolkaet-lukashenko-peredelat-konstituciyu
                        in the search engine you need to roll back 4-5 pages ...
                        Quote: Anton S
                        Continue to wishful thinking, it’s probably easier to live this way.

                        while it turns out that I am giving out real for real, but you are in some kind of dream world wink
                      3. 0
                        13 December 2020 10: 13
                        Quote: SanichSan
                        did we talk about fakes here recently?
                        Quote: Anton S
                        Shakuta instructor of hand-to-hand combat in the military unit 3214 of the special forces of the internal troops

                        that's a lie wink he served there almost 10 years ago 2 years. that is, the instructor is there former.. very former. haven't you been trained to verify information? only believe? so back in 2019 he was listed in the SOBRr, but this does not change the fact that you are lying, or rather not you, but the sources that you cite without bothering to check wink
                        and so, for a change, do you know that an employee not on duty is a civilian?
                        Quote: Anton S
                        In general, citizens cannot be easier.

                        hmm .. watched the video ... by the way did you watch the video? there is almost no Baskov on the video. he only participated in a verbal skirmish, Shakuta, in general, does not touch the pizriot, hands him over to some three figures who pack Bondarenko into a car and leaves... Let me remind you that at this moment Bondarenko is alive and well and is not even badly dented during transportation.
                        and so attention to the question, what kind of bullshit about Shakut and Baskov are you rubbing in here? the one that you read in the most honest press?
                        Quote: Anton S
                        Remind, please, when the AHL before the elections spoke about the constitutional reform, after which he will not be president (I can not find it anywhere).

                        please request
                        https://naviny.media/article/20190531/1559314165-chto-tolkaet-lukashenko-peredelat-konstituciyu
                        in the search engine you need to roll back 4-5 pages ...
                        Quote: Anton S
                        Continue to wishful thinking, it’s probably easier to live this way.

                        while it turns out that I am giving out real for real, but you are in some kind of dream world wink

                        I read the link. Where does the AHL say there about what will no longer be president after the adoption of the new Constitution?
                        Shakuta and Basque are not like caring citizens in any way, no matter what bullshit you rubbed in here.
                        What about TUT.by and the buynet?
                      4. 0
                        13 December 2020 13: 41
                        Quote: Anton S
                        I read the link. Where does the AHL say there about what will no longer be president after the adoption of the new Constitution?

                        what's next? will you appeal for a full quote of what he said last time? once again, for the zmagars, the reform was planned even before the elections.
                        Quote: Anton S
                        Shakuta and Basque are not like caring citizens in any way, no matter what bullshit you rubbed in here.

                        how is she! that is, an indifferent Bondarenko can be indifferent, but Shakut and Baskov not? have already undertaken to decide who how to think?
                        Quote: Anton S
                        What about TUT.by and the buynet?

                        good that you reminded me laughing so on what basis is this site the most visited? figured out a finger to your nose?
                        an ordinary fraudulent news resource, moreover, fraudulent right away, from the start, from the logo wassat they are so straightforwardly shut up that they are still alive in the Belarusian segment.
                        judging by the fact that they were never demolished, this project, the campaign, Lukashenka is quite profitable. he cannot sit in one chair request

                        PS
                        if you are counting on support here, you will not wait. in Russia they will never support the Natsiks under white-red-white rags, so that they would not shout there about democracy. Who these Polish lackeys are and where they have been sailing has been known for a hundred years.
                        by the way, they are being pressed quite in accordance with democratic norms, as in France and Germany wink
                      5. 0
                        13 December 2020 15: 09
                        [quote what's next? will you appeal for a full quote of what he said last time? once again, for the zmagars, the reform was planned even before the elections.] [/ quote]
                        Before the elections, he never gave a hint that he would not be president under the new Constitution.
                        how is she! that is, an indifferent Bondarenko can be indifferent, but Shakut and Baskov not? have already undertaken to decide who how to think?

                        I just want to emphasize that they do not pull on ordinary citizens who are tired of the protesters, as you want to imagine. One is close to the AHL family, the other is close to the security forces.
                        an ordinary breach news resource, moreover, breachy immediately, from the start, from the wassat logo, they are shut up so that they are still alive in the Belarusian segment.

                        Well, yes, everything that is against AHL is all nonsense.
                        if you are counting on support here, you will not wait. in Russia they will never support the Natsiks under white-red-white rags, so that they would not shout there about democracy

                        I don't need your support for a hundred years at lunchtime. At VO, people express their opinions, no more.
                        Under national symbols, it is not the Nazis who go out, but people who protest against the person who usurped power and this symbolism has not yet been officially banned.
                        press them quite in line with democratic norms, as in France and Germany wink

                        Compare how the protesters in France and Belarus behave. And the essence of the protests is different.
                      6. 0
                        13 December 2020 15: 51
                        Quote: Anton S
                        Before the elections, he never gave a hint that he would not be president under the new Constitution.

                        even now he does not give details of the reform. the fact that he will not be president will not help the protestors in any way. request he is preparing a post that will lead the country and will be elected behind the scenes, and the Belarusians will elect a president with powers like the president of Germany. if you haven’t understood this yet and consider Lukashenka’s statement to be a victory for the opposition, then ... continue in the same spirit wassat
                        Quote: Anton S
                        I just want to emphasize that they do not pull on ordinary citizens who are tired of the protesters, as you want to imagine. One is close to the AHL family, the other is close to the security forces.

                        and? what changes from the fact that they are athletes and are familiar with Lukashenka?
                        Quote: Anton S
                        Well, yes, everything that is against AHL is all nonsense.

                        no, nonsense when they openly lie and rig facts wink what they do on your favorite resource.
                        as for Luke, he is not a friend of Russia. an ordinary dependent dictator, but those who are trying to shove him off are such a fierce infection that he is better.
                        Quote: Anton S
                        Under national symbols, it is not the Nazis who come out, but the people who protest against the person who usurped power and this symbolism has not yet been officially banned.

                        each time you poke your face in a photo of this rag in the company of swastikas and portraits of Hitler? the fact that in history this rag appeared three times, in 1917, when the Belarusian Nazis tried to tear off part of the Russian people, in 1941 with swastikas and portraits of Hitler and all the same Nazis and in the 90s with the same characters, every time you need to remind? do you have a memory for 3 minutes?
                        write in Google "flag of Belarus" and you will see national symbols, write in Google "flag of Belarusian Nazis" and you will see a white-red-white rag.
                        and you there still have not understood why the fascists are still not banned in your country? this is Lukashenka's bread bully He cultivated this bastard all the time he was in power, and if they hadn't eaten, he would have received new loans.
                        naive children laughing they are fighting the redhead wassat you feed him and serve faithfully! wink
                        Quote: Anton S
                        Compare how the protesters in France and Belarus behave. And the essence of the protests is different.
                        what difference does it make who protests and for what reason? state structures are engaged in the protection of law and order in France and in Germany and in Belarus, and they act in the same way, and whoever was thrashed there, fighters with a burp, eco-activists, protesting against the abortion law or fighters for the rights of aquarium fish, this does not affect the methods of law enforcement agencies ... request

                        a! I almost forgot! so where does the data on the most visited tutbay come from? as I expected, you really wanted and you came up with?
                      7. 0
                        15 December 2020 10: 54
                        if you haven’t understood this yet and consider Lukashenka’s statement to be a victory for the opposition, then ... continue in the same spirit wassat

                        Oh no, of course, His High Excellency, the ruler of all people, animals and birds in the Republic of Belarus, out of the kindness of his soul spoke about the transfer of most of his powers.
                        what changes from the fact that they are athletes and are familiar with Lukashenka?

                        What is changing is that these characters do not look like ordinary people, as you want to imagine. The same small flying brigade, consisting of those close to the emperor's ass, rides around the courtyards.
                        write in Google "flag of the Belarusian Nazis" and you will see a white-red-white rag.

                        No one denies that during the Great Patriotic War there were several thousand calloborators under this flag, but for some reason they started talking about it only after the elections, when this flag became a symbol of the fight against Lukashenka.
                        Vlasov's army also marched under Russian banners, but no one considers this symbolism to be fascist.
                        [quote what is the difference who protests and for what reason? ] [/ quote]
                        The difference is in how they protest. In France, every Saturday shop windows were beaten, cars and restaurants were burned. There is no such thing in Belarus.
                        [quote! I almost forgot! so where does the data on the most visited tutbay come from? as I expected, you really wanted and did you come up with?] [/ quote]
                        https://ru.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/TUT.BY
                        nonsense when they openly lie and manipulate facts wink what on your favorite resource and do

                        Examples in the studio, please.
                      8. 0
                        16 December 2020 00: 58
                        Quote: Anton S
                        No one denies that under this flag during the Great Patriotic War there were several thousand calloborants.

                        did you accidentally forget about 1917 and 1990? Ukrainian Nazis have always been under this flag. if you are under this flag, then you are a Ukrainian Nazi request
                        Quote: Anton S
                        Vlasov's army also marched under Russian banners, but no one considers this symbolism to be fascist.

                        vyalenko wink the Russian flag of Vlasov has this small dirty spot on the glorious history of many centuries. the white-red-white rag has nothing but Nazi history from its first appearance in 1917 to the present day. there are no good fascists and we will not support anyone under this rag. request
                        Quote: Anton S
                        The difference is in how they protest. In France, every Saturday shop windows were beaten, cars and restaurants were burned. There is no such thing in Belarus.

                        dooo? true? wassat
                        Quote: Anton S
                        https://ru.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/TUT.BY

                        and? Do you have 2018 now? especially nice in this story that this is the statistics of the Polish gemius wassat so what about 2020? where are the firewood from?
                        Quote: Anton S
                        Examples in the studio, please.

                        mass protests for example. when they wrote about 200k protesters in Minsk, and some about 500k, all the photos show that 50k is not typed request

                        PS
                        and what is this stream of consciousness? belay
                        Quote: Anton S
                        Oh no, of course, His High Excellency, the ruler of all people, animals and birds in the Republic of Belarus, out of the kindness of his soul spoke about the transfer of most of his powers.

                        and what powers is he going to transfer to someone? read out, or do you really want to believe that there was a change? wassat
                      9. 0
                        16 December 2020 15: 51
                        Ukrainian Nazis have always been under this flag. if you are under this flag then you are a Ukrainian Nazi request

                        Are you drunk there that you see fascists and Nazis everywhere? What do the Ukrainians have to do with it, here, in fact, about Belarus.
                        the white-red-white rag has nothing but Nazi history from its first appearance in 1917 to the present day. there are no good fascists and we will not support anyone under this rag. request

                        Again, you see fascists everywhere, there’s some kind of phobia. As I said above, I don’t need your support (funny that you are counting on that). And it just became interesting: who are you? (Who will not support).
                        dooo? true?

                        Doo. True. (If this style of presentation is more suitable for you).
                        mass protests for example. when they wrote about 200k protesters in Minsk, and some about 500k, all the photos show that 50k is not typed

                        Vyalenko. Specific examples.
                        and what powers is he going to transfer to someone? read out,


                        https://iz.ru/1087677/2020-11-16/lukashenko-zaiavil-o-peredache-chasti-polnomochii-prezidenta-bez-lomki-konstitutcii
                        He did not specify what powers he was going to transfer, but spoke about the transfer only after the elections and amid protests.
                      10. 0
                        17 December 2020 15: 58
                        Quote: Anton S
                        Are you drunk there that you see fascists and Nazis everywhere? What do the Ukrainians have to do with it, here, in fact, about Belarus.

                        yes, a typo, because Ukrainian and Belarusian are one and the same. did you know?




                        it is not surprising to get confused here, you are like twin brothers with pravosek Yes
                        Quote: Anton S
                        Again, you see fascists everywhere, there’s some kind of phobia. As I said above, I don’t need your support (funny that you are counting on that). And it just became interesting: who are you? (Who will not support).

                        photo above. will you continue to mow "like a fool"? request it does not seem to be, they are. natural, in pure form.
                        Quote: Anton S
                        Doo. True. (If this style of presentation is more suitable for you).

                        And the Belarusian protesters did not enter the police cordons in cars? and did not throw stones at the police? and the police were not attacked? come on, lie that no laughing
                        and the fact that there were no pogroms was due to the prompt actions of the police and the fact that the heroes were immediately pressed and packed.
                        Quote: Anton S
                        Vyalenko. Specific examples.

                        Yes, I have to admit that they do not have direct lies as on next door. only gray anti-state propaganda and only official figures, but all articles only in support of protests and a complete zero of objectivity.
                        this does not change the essence of the matter. they support protests under fascist banners and therefore definitely enemies wink
                        Quote: Anton S
                        He did not specify what powers he was going to transfer, but spoke about the transfer only after the elections and amid protests.

                        Wouldn't you have spoken without protests? once again, the reform was planned even before the elections.
                        Is everything so sour among the protestors that they need at least some kind of override, even if invented? belay it's good laughing

                        PS
                        Quote: Anton S
                        As I said above: I don't need your support (it's funny that you are counting on this).

                        ooo, you still need it, otherwise you wouldn't be here laughing
                        Russia supports the pro-Russian leader in Belarus, and at the moment it is Lukashenko. the protests are supported by Poles and Balts. as long as this is the case, the protestors do not shine, there are no comparable weight categories in politics, but they will not be crushed to the end because Lukashenka needs them as a tool to pull out preferences from Russia.
                        in short, the cause of the protestors is a miserable existence on Lithuanian handouts laughing , and in the case of the appearance of a more sane pro-Russian political figure, even a cover bully
                      11. 0
                        18 December 2020 11: 43
                        Well, they pulled out photos of pravosek people from the Internet, and what? In Belarus, every third person died during the war, and the ground under the Nazis' feet was on fire, and you want to accuse the Belarusians protesting against Lukashenka of fascism? At least funny.
                        And did the Belarusian protestors drive into the police cordons? and did not throw stones at the police? and the police were not attacked? come on, lie that there is no laughing

                        There have been isolated cases, no one denies this. During mass protests, there is always a small group of radical people. The Belarusian protest is peaceful, it is not radicalized, this is the merit of the Belarusians themselves, not the law enforcement agencies.
                        https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5GhucdQbSsI
                        https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5vYVbKfyDlc
                        https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qFJ7YgGyZ0w
                        Where are the fascists here and what are they smashing?
                        Wouldn't you have spoken without protests? once again, the reform was planned even before the elections.

                        Without protests, I would not have spoken about the transfer of powers, not a word before the elections.
                        Russia supports the pro-Russian leader in Belarus, and at the moment it is Lukashenko.

                        Before the elections, V. Babariko was seen as such a politician, adequate and quite pro-Russian. I think if he were allowed before the elections and they were held honestly and transparently, he would become the new president.
                        And Lukashenka is not a pro-Russian politician, he is a pro-Lukashenka, the main thing for him is to retain power.
                        [quoteooo, you still need it, otherwise you wouldn't be here] [/ quote]
                        I repeat once again: I don't need anyone's support. I go to VO to read some articles, leave comments on topics of interest to me, no more.
                        and in the event that a more sane pro-Russian political figure appears, the

                        As I wrote above, such a figure, Babariko, would suit the majority of Belarusians. Sensing this, Lukashenka put him in a KGB pre-trial detention center on some far-fetched charges.
                        the fact that there were no pogroms was due to the prompt actions of the police and the fact that the heroes were immediately pressed and packed.

                        Lukashenka's blitzkrieg did not succeed in the first three days after the elections. Despite the brutal crackdowns and detentions, people continued to leave the temporary detention facility.
                      12. 0
                        19 December 2020 16: 06
                        Quote: Anton S
                        Well, they pulled out photos of pravosek people from the Internet, so what?

                        Oh how cute lol that is, we see pravosek people, but we don't see zmagars with a fascist rag? what an interesting visual disorder you have. on one poster there are two fascist rags, and you see only the UPA rag ...
                        here are two fascist rags and portraits of fascists:

                        you want to convince someone that that fascist rag that is on top is not there?
                        and here it is:

                        too right-sided?
                        Quote: Anton S
                        In Belarus, every third person died during the war, and the land was burning under the feet of the Nazis and you want to accuse the Belarusians protesting against Lukashenka of fascism?

                        Yes, indeed, the earth was burning under the feet of the Nazis, the very ones who marched under a white-red-white rag and greeted the Germans with flowers. and now you, waving a fascist rag, are going to hide behind the backs of those who fought against this fascism? well, generally you burn! wassat
                        Quote: Anton S
                        Funny, to say the least.

                        there is nothing funny about the fact that Belarusians do not see with whom they are performing and under what banners, I do not observe. at best, it is human stupidity. request
                        Quote: Anton S
                        Where are the fascists here and what are they smashing?

                        where are they fascists - the photo above. still poke your nose?
                        are Belarusians peaceful? isolated cases? belay

                        exactly? and of course not fascists at all laughing
                        Quote: Anton S
                        Before the elections, V. Babariko was seen as such a politician, adequate and quite pro-Russian.

                        Who are you trying to deceive now? belay yourself, or us? Babarik is in the same bloc with Tikhanovskaya, which means he is in favor of leaving the EAEU, for breaking political and economic ties with Russia, etc., etc. all that the opposition pledged to do so that the Poles and the Balts would support them.
                        I'm curious, why did you suddenly consider Babariko a pro-Russian candidate? justify.
                        Quote: Anton S
                        Lukashenka's blitzkrieg did not succeed in the first three days after the elections. Despite the brutal crackdowns and detentions, people continued to leave the temporary detention facility.

                        yes you! belay where did it fail? Tikhanovskaya is the presidency in Poland, the protestors are shocked, driven under the bunk and whine from there quietly, 3 lard from the Russian Federation received. it seems like all tactical goals have been successfully achieved and with all the strategic rules. I had to leave my partners in Klaipeda, but in return they will organize everything in Ust-Luga. now he will draw a good position for himself, prescribe in the constitution and choose whoever you want as president, Lukashenka will be the one to steer.
                        "and everything is going according to plan" request
                      13. 0
                        20 December 2020 13: 00
                        In the video that you showed, you have collected almost all the filmed acts of aggression against the security forces for the entire time of the protest, sparsely for more than 4 months. I did not deny that this was not, but this is a drop in the ocean. Protest, I emphasize again, not radicalized, he is peaceful. If you collect all the videos of the violence of the security forces against the demonstrators, you will not have enough popcorn to watch.
                        And, of course, the cherry on the cake is an incomprehensible horseradish with Nazi tattoos at the end, which means that all are fascists.
                        And according to the photographs: if a bunch of idiots are zigzagging under white-red-white flags, then everyone who goes out to protest under these flags against Lukashenka is fascists. The same amusing conclusions.
                        Babarik is in the same bloc with Tikhanovskaya, which means he is for leaving the EAEU, for breaking political and economic ties with Russia

                        Give an example of his anti-Russian rhetoric: He was potentially the strongest candidate in this election, not needing any blocs, who would ultimately win if the votes were counted fairly.
                        he will also draw a good position for himself, prescribe in the constitution and choose whoever you want as president, all one Lukashenka will steer

                        The people will no longer accept him under any sauce.
                        still poke your nose?

                        In general, in what barn were you brought up if you allow yourself such phrases in relation to a stranger? I understand that they are easier and safer for you to juggle on the Internet, sitting in front of your computer screen, in real life everything is different. do not swim the buoys.
  24. +3
    3 December 2020 14: 09
    No need to guess who will be the next president in Belarus, but better
    create a single state and with a single ruler
  25. +1
    3 December 2020 14: 33
    Putin's Lukashenko is enough for the eyes. Some other Russia does not need a president in Bl, rather a governor of the Belarusian region is desirable.
  26. +5
    3 December 2020 14: 36
    Fuck, I've already set priorities The people will choose A statement that the people of Belarus for the most part support the current head in general nonsense (mildly) of the highest degree
  27. -2
    3 December 2020 15: 03
    Which Russian President? Wake up.
    Brains are washed. Beads are packed. Geyropa is waiting with open arms. The case is small.
  28. 0
    3 December 2020 15: 04
    Continuous delirium. In a month, everyone will laugh when they remember this nonsense.
  29. +4
    3 December 2020 15: 52
    Luca, of course, will be leaving soon. By age. As events have shown, the new generation that has developed over the past 20-30 years has no brains at all, either in Belarus, in Ukraine or elsewhere, in our country. This generation (now I'm talking about Belarusians) does not know what it means to live badly, it believes that it does not live well under dad. The example of their southern neighbor teaches them nothing. In the late USSR, the average man in the street also believed that he was living poorly, which was also fueled by an artificially organized deficit. Naturally, the most reasonable way for Belarus, from my point of view, is integration into the Russian Federation. However, I am tormented by vague doubts - will the domestic bourgeoisie bring the state of the Belarusian industry to the Russian one, for example, the Minsk tractor will become like the Vladimir tractor (or like the Volgograd)? This is what Belarusians should be afraid of. The West, of course, will ruin everything, and quickly, but the East?
  30. -1
    3 December 2020 17: 26
    Chinese wassat Again, give credits to .DULU.
  31. -1
    3 December 2020 21: 26
    In Blr, we would benefit from any statesman over 60, simply less adventurous than the AHL.
    We must conduct a dialogue with the Belarusian technical bureaucracy, and not with a banana dictator - otherwise we will inevitably have different Yanukovychs-Lukashenkos, etc.
  32. +4
    3 December 2020 23: 07
    Quote: Aviator_
    Luca, of course, will be leaving soon. By age. As events have shown, the new generation that has developed over the past 20-30 years has no brains at all, either in Belarus, in Ukraine or elsewhere, in our country. This generation (now I'm talking about Belarusians) does not know what it means to live badly, it believes that it does not live well under dad. The example of their southern neighbor teaches them nothing

    Good afternoon. I see you understand this topic. Please explain why when the Ukrainians beg for loans, it means they have sold out, ruined the economy, and in general a third of the country is already "in Poland they are washing the sartars." But when Lukashenka comes to Putin to beg for alms, is it normal? If he is so efficient, he saved production and the economy, why does he need our loans and our subsidies?
    1. +1
      4 December 2020 10: 28
      Please explain why when the Ukrainians beg for loans, it means they have sold out, ruined the economy, and in general a third of the country is already "in Poland they are washing the sartars." But when Lukashenka comes to Putin to beg for alms, is it normal? If he is so efficient, he saved production and the economy, why does he need our loans and our subsidies?
      I will explain. Loans are neither bad nor good. Loans are taken for something specific. In particular, for the modernization of the same production. Again, the competitiveness of products is directly related to the price of raw materials, so preferential payments for raw materials are very important. Do the Sumerians take loans to develop their industry? They even closed the 5th power unit of Chernobyl, which provided control of the Sarcophagus. Sumerians aspire to "Europa", and it requires a sharp rejection of social programs and the sale of agricultural land. This is what is called "venality". Well, what the guest workers earn there - I don't care. What they can do, so they earn, according to qualifications.
  33. +3
    4 December 2020 00: 06
    Quote: Knell Wardenheart
    In Blr, we would benefit from any statesman over 60, simply less adventurous than the AHL.
    We must conduct a dialogue with the Belarusian technical bureaucracy, and not with a banana dictator - otherwise we will inevitably have different Yanukovychs-Lukashenkos, etc.
    [i] [/ i]
    Wonderful! Belarusians - scramble under the bench (insects that
    take from them). What's too much? Well, okay, here is one on the next branch
    He called all of Russia's neighbors natives and even scientifically substantiated it.
    Thank you for not Papuans. So, natives, scamper under the bench.
    We are pasavetovalis here, and this is what happened:
    a) the Belarusian Tsar must appoint a successor - we write down ..
    b) the tsar of Russia (who himself) needs a successor for
    To appoint Belarus (but over 60) - write down ..
    c) nafik a and b - cross out - there should be one tsar - Russian
    those. union state (with the name it turns out obliquely,
    well, okay, paper, it is paper-endure)
    And do not stick out - they said - under the bench. There will be a president for you.
    PS And nothing that is nearby, In the Czech Republic, in Austria, their people
    give his presidents a box of ribbons (for a month) and a couple of scissors
    and even a couple of cuffs, if they get confused. Why, yourself
    chose, and nailed. And nothing, they live, they chew bread.
    1. 0
      6 December 2020 02: 52
      Quote: Kushka
      PS And nothing that is nearby, In the Czech Republic, in Austria, their people
      give his presidents a box of ribbons (for a month) and a couple of scissors
      and even a couple of cuffs, if they get confused. Why, yourself
      chose, and nailed. And nothing, they live, they chew bread.

      go crazy! do you seriously believe it ???? belay
      PS
      otherwise, by the way, no sarcasm wink just the features of the capitalist system everywhere and in particular in Russia request did you not know that it is so arranged? Or are you stuck in the USSR and believe in social justice? lol
      1. 0
        6 December 2020 19: 52
        I understand everything clearly. I remember well the cornerstone
        the stone of Orthodoxy is power - it is from God. From here centuries
        autocracy and all subsequent forms of power in Russia
        (Stalin, if you remember, before the war itself, had no positions,
        but he had absolute power).
        But this sequence, when literally synchronously, on several
        branches of VO, describe in detail - what he messed up and why
        led Alexander III, what such and such Nicholas II, which is not
        understood Khrushchev (missed - it does not happen to anyone - 250 million.
        people on pea bread), Gorbachev - he completely misled the coast,
        EBN is a complete disaster. And on GDP at the same VO ton
        claims ...
        But when it comes to, well, who is it?
        And we all answer in unison - we need HE, the only one.
        And the Belarusians? Yes it is said - HE, the only one.
        Is that Russian roulette?
        1. 0
          9 December 2020 13: 43
          Quote: Kushka
          I remember well the cornerstone
          the stone of Orthodoxy is power - it is from God. From here centuries
          autocracy and all subsequent forms of power in Russia

          oha .. probably still need to remind how it ended. 1905 year. if it is a stone, then on the neck of a drowned man. request
          Quote: Kushka
          Stalin, if you remember, before the war itself, had no positions,
          but possessed absolute power

          of course I don’t remember, because he had no absolute power. authority in the party, yes, he did. if they suddenly forgot, let me remind you that Yezhov organized the repressions of 1937 precisely to undermine this authority.
          Quote: Kushka
          But when it comes to, well, who is it?
          And we all answer in unison - we need HE, the only one.

          I'm not of this chorus. bully an ideology of social justice is needed. we need an organization based on these principles into which all Trotskyists, Mensheviks, and even more so monarchists should not fall.
          Quote: Kushka
          And the Belarusians? Yes it is said - HE, the only one.
          Is that Russian roulette?

          Great Russians and Little Russians are one people. all these tales about the Belarusian nation are nothing more than an attempt to snatch part of the Russian people with the help of stupid Nazism. request
  34. +1
    4 December 2020 02: 19
    RF is unnecessary President of the Republic of Belarus, no, the author is nonsense, sad.
  35. +1
    4 December 2020 06: 47
    "So as not to drink, not to smoke ..." Whatever the neighbor, you need to know how to work with him. Any woman in the bazaar can take an offended or indignant position. And here you need a delicate work of diplomacy. I often watch the Belros program. Sometimes not very clever questions are asked. “Why do we have such young people?” As if these young people came from another country. The main thing is to preserve the mentality of the Belarusian people.
  36. 0
    4 December 2020 11: 14
    Poor old man.
    Everyone around wants to remove him.
    Belarusians, west, Russian media ...
    And his son is not ready yet ...

    And the Belarusians are not morally ready to buy goods in Russian stores and export through Siberia
  37. +3
    4 December 2020 12: 42
    From the point of view of Russia, a separate RB is not needed at all - we need a western district. Because Any the Belarusian authorities will be anti-Russian. The reasons are simple. If the Belarusians are one people with the Russians, they become unnecessary, i.e. in order to substantiate their necessity, they need to prove that these are different peoples.
    And relying on the Soviet period or socialism is stupidity. First of all, you need to work with the generation up to 40 years old, first of all, preferably with the most educated and active (it is much easier to recruit those walking in formation, but this is a dead-end path, without a team they will not be able to do anything, they will express themselves angrily on the Internet) - and they don’t have socialism for nothing needed, they know how to work (compulsory equality is generally more like the laggards). And secondly, Belarusian independence is a child of Lenin and Stalin, i.e. or cowards or a cross (The continuity of Belarus from the ON is like modern Italy from Rome, and the BNR was a phantom who had nothing but a couple of papers - everyone can write on the balcony of the same legal value of paper).
    1. -1
      4 December 2020 18: 38
      Quote: soloveyav
      From the point of view of Russia, a separate RB is not needed at all - we need a western district. Because any Belarusian government will be anti-Russian.

      Don't go to my grandmother, it will definitely be .. hi
      1. -1
        4 December 2020 19: 06
        Yes, it already exists. Lukashenko was not even pro-Russian, but at least pro-union was only in the 90s, when he expected to become the president of the Union State. As soon as I realized that it wouldn’t work, I immediately realized that if the Belarusians and Russians are one people, no one needs it and began to build squares.
        And it is high time for Russia to solve this too - either Belarus is Russian land and it is returned to Russia, or Belarus is a separate country, but then all civil servants and citizens of the Russian Federation who work in the interests of the Republic of Belarus and the AHL are some governors, leaders of the Communist Party of the Russian Federation, Russian ambassadors to the Republic of Belarus - at best, inagents, and perhaps ordinary traitors acting in the interests of another state.
  38. +1
    4 December 2020 18: 30
    Ilya - wake up. What are the forces of the West? The AHL holds on to power so much that the fingers are already blue. Torture, rape, beatings, murders of Belarusians are behind the scenes. We have Russians, the main task is what kind of president we need in Belarus to solve our interests. Putin supported the AHL, and therefore you Russians have no chance of solving this problem. You, I mean not the people of Russia, but yours. the authorities, liquidly crap in Ukraine, Georgia, Moldova, etc. You will not wait, you will be able to plant your monster in the Republic of Belarus. At the same time, six months ago, I was for joining Russia. Sad ...
    1. -1
      5 December 2020 10: 22
      “Moreover, six months ago, I was in favor of joining Russia. ,,

      I thought so too. But now I think differently. We do not need the heresy of the Maidan here. Therefore, you go your own way, and we go ours.
  39. -1
    4 December 2020 18: 37
    Which president in Belarus would be beneficial to Russia. It's worth pondering.

    Someone from the military of the Soviet temper .. And the main thing is not a chatterbox!
    And the best thing if Belarus and Russia are united! Divide and rule, we are all very well on ourselves, in the former Soviet Union we experienced it firsthand. It's time to unite, but a little on different principles .. Otherwise, we will be strangled one by one, which we are now seeing throughout the USSR. hi
  40. 0
    4 December 2020 20: 29
    Quote: Cop
    Alexander Lukashenko is still a "tough nut to crack," as "Mike and Nick" used to say.
    Well, the author, remember the Soviet film .... "..... it's a wall." Answer: ".... the wall, but rotten, poke and fall apart ....". So here, against grandmothers and students, he can fight ...
    The siloviki fully supported the president ...
    Come on, but what about the site where you can report the crimes of the security forces. Evil tongues claim that one of its founders is just a former security official.
    .... and the sympathies of the main part of the population, as it should be assumed, are rather on their side.
    Why then is this main part not on the street? And they don't chant, for example, "Father, our president!" You will remember how this main part defended Yushchenko in his time in Ukraine.
    Which president in Belarus would be beneficial to Russia.
    The author, you are so small. Yes, the one that includes the Republic of Belarus in Russia as a federal district. Well, you remember what our president said on this. He hinted at the federal district.
    It didn't work out - as soon as protesters poured into the streets of Minsk, it turned out that there was simply no one to turn to except Vladimir Putin, Alexander Grigorievich,
    Listen, well, you really be consistent in your reasoning. And then you have a significant part of the population supports him, and sometimes there is no one to turn to.
    Artificial confrontation between Belarusian and Russian according to the Ukrainian scenario can lead, if not to the disintegration of the country, then to a significant destabilization of the situation
    Mr. Girkin once said that if it were not for Russia's help, then everything in Donbas would have ended with two hundred Russian corpses, and now there would be no war there. And for some reason I tend to believe him. He is a very well informed gentleman. Here I think the situation is the same.
    The support of such a person should be the inhabitants of Belarus,
    So they have such a person, he is still in prison.
    But, perhaps, the most important feature of a person who will ascend to the presidency after Alexander Lukashenko is predictable and, if I may put it that way, "one-vector"
    But I think it's just honesty.
    Py Sy: Author, when writing this article, you had to use not only manuals, but also, let's say, other opinions.

    Well, it is clear that Ch. Is active. He is hanging out actively for now. Let the multi-vector hang out.
    We will come, take it and take it. Yes
  41. +1
    5 December 2020 10: 06
    Who is after Lukashenka: which Belarusian president would be beneficial to Russia

    Zhirinovsky can be a start .. wassat
  42. 0
    5 December 2020 17: 39
    "Advantageous for Russia" is not the correct formulation of the question. Belarus is a sovereign state, which is not obliged to be a Russian satellite and is less and less willing to play this role. Mutually beneficial we can only have relations with one president - the legally elected and popularly supported.

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