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Ukrainian anti-ship missiles "Neptune" will not be put on British boats for the Ukrainian Navy

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Ukrainian anti-ship missiles "Neptune" will not be put on British boats for the Ukrainian Navy

The British boats proposed for construction for the Ukrainian Navy will not have Ukrainian anti-ship missiles "Neptune". It is reported by the Odessa edition "Dumskaya".


Naval Forces Commander Rear Admiral Oleksiy Neizhpapa met with the Defense Attaché at the British Embassy in Ukraine, Royal Navy Commodore Tim Woods. As the newspaper writes, the parties discussed obtaining new types of weapons, including the issue of building new boats for the Ukrainian fleet.

According to Dumskaya, the Commander-in-Chief of the Naval Forces of Ukraine has given preliminary consent to equip boats with Norwegian Naval Strike Missile (NSM) anti-ship missiles instead of the Neptune anti-ship missiles offered by Ukraine. In addition, Neizhpapa expressed a desire to strengthen the artillery armament of the boats by installing larger caliber guns, despite the change in the cost of building and centering the boats.

Also, the Ukrainian side expressed a desire to build not eight boats, as previously planned, but six. Instead of two more, according to the commander-in-chief of the Ukrainian Navy, two minesweepers should be built.

For its part, Britain said it expects from Ukraine a final decision on the characteristics of the proposed ships. According to the Ambassador of the United Kingdom in Kiev Melinda Simmons, the Minister of Defense of Ukraine is expected to visit London with a final proposal for the construction of boats.
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  1. Andrei Nikolaevich
    Andrei Nikolaevich 3 December 2020 10: 28
    +4
    This is what the denial of history, the prohibition of the Russian language and jumping in pots lead to. Forever with outstretched hand ...
    1. Orange bigg
      Orange bigg 3 December 2020 11: 29
      +5
      For 30 years Ukraine has been in the hands of the West as an anti-Russian tool. Otherwise, the West does not need it.
      1. Andrei Nikolaevich
        Andrei Nikolaevich 3 December 2020 11: 38
        +2
        In that case, why do we need it? The fewer brothers, the higher the pensions and salaries.
        1. Orange bigg
          Orange bigg 3 December 2020 11: 43
          +4
          I don’t know. Ask the leadership why we have been sponsoring the Russophobic regimes of the post-Soviet countries all these decades. Everything was naively trying to please someone, but in the end no one liked it. Neither the West, nor the post-Soviet republics. We deceived ourselves all these years.
          1. Andrei Nikolaevich
            Andrei Nikolaevich 3 December 2020 12: 34
            0
            I agree with you. Even nothing to add.
  2. Hunter 2
    Hunter 2 3 December 2020 10: 29
    +3
    That's what I understand ... Intrusive service! How will the non-brothers pay for the boats and for their weapons? I doubt that the Norway will just (free of charge) supply their anti-ship missiles for credit (English) boats.
    Neptune is of course an outdated rocket (analogous to the X-35 developed by the USSR in the 70s), but it could at least be produced in Ukraine.
    1. Orange bigg
      Orange bigg 3 December 2020 11: 32
      0
      So the fact of the matter is that there is no Neptune in nature. Nonsense and props. But there is a real anti-ship missile system NSM.
    2. APASUS
      APASUS 3 December 2020 12: 05
      +3
      Quote: Hunter 2
      That's what I understand ... Intrusive service!

      This is called a linked loan.
      One of the credit conditions. Only papers for signature will be sent to Ukraine, not a single pound will cross the Ukrainian border. Everything will be produced in Europe, to the last rivet. Even if the Neptune anti-ship missile system was superior to the Norwegian Naval Strike Missile (NSM) complex, by all parameters.
  3. Senka naughty
    Senka naughty 3 December 2020 10: 31
    0
    Like a dog whistling, The-President in London stood in front of the queen with cancer, this izpapa was called to the embassy on the carpet like a mongrel, and once more they would rush to London on their knees, and for 2 billion you would get 6 useless oars. How did the outskirts crumble ..
  4. Reviews
    Reviews 3 December 2020 10: 32
    +2
    The Commander-in-Chief of the Naval Forces of Ukraine gave preliminary consent to equip boats with Norwegian Naval Strike Missile (NSM) anti-ship missiles instead of the Ukrainian-made Neptune anti-ship missiles offered by Ukraine.

    Well, here's two birds with one stone: you can knock out more dough, and there is no need to explain why "their" RCCs do not fool around.
    expressed a desire to strengthen the artillery armament of the boats by installing larger caliber guns, despite the change (...) of the boat alignment.

    Does he really think that "loot wins everything", including physics and common sense? True, Norwegian missiles weigh less, but is this compensated for? And how will this affect the longitudinal balancing (or what is it called by the Marimans - "trimming")?
    1. Alex777
      Alex777 3 December 2020 15: 06
      0
      The commander-in-chief of the Naval Forces of Ukraine has so many questions that while the Britons will answer them, Zelensky will have time to resign a couple of times. And then they will forget about the loan.
  5. prior
    prior 3 December 2020 10: 32
    +10
    The country that built aircraft carriers as part of the USSR now humbly asks the British to install larger-caliber guns on the boats they buy ...
    And the attempt to install their missiles on the boats was stopped immediately and in the bud.
    Such is the military cooperation. Such is the reversal.
    Lackies in the service of NATO, not members of NATO.
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 3 December 2020 10: 44
      +3
      Quote: prior
      And the attempt to install their missiles on the boats was stopped immediately and in the bud.
      Such is the military cooperation. Such is the reversal.

      The slave must know his place, and follow all the instructions of the owner, but all for his own money, and not for the owner's. Previously, there was enough money for 8 boats, and with Norwegian anti-ship missiles already for 6 boats. Chegoito will still be forced to buy, converge on 4, but in reality they will receive 3 outdated models. That's all the "arichmetic" for all independent limitrophes.
      1. alexmach
        alexmach 3 December 2020 11: 08
        +5
        Well, objectively, it is not clear whether there is a technical possibility of "neptune" to install there, it can really be cheaper to buy ready-made. Maybe they are not really ready yet, but only recently they reported about what the radar station had done for the ground complex.
        The fact that NSM is more abruptly "neptune" will already be mentioned above. This is one of the most advanced missiles in its class.
        And in fact, Ukraine has nothing to rejoice in the appearance of such boats. This is another headache and another threat.
  6. KCA
    KCA 3 December 2020 10: 35
    +1
    Of course, they will not, where can they get them, if for 2021 the purchase of the Neptune anti-ship missile system in the Ukrainian Navy is not provided at all, to make one or two prototypes, to launch some of them from a stationary launcher is one thing, and to establish a mass production for mobile or sea ​​complexes is completely different, we like to criticize loud statements about the lack of real analogs, but if everything that took off at least 2-3 times and even got somewhere was advertised in our country as in the USA or in 404, we have all the TV air only and would have been crammed with bravura reports, there would have been no time for political scientists from the USA and 404 in political and public programs, where they are paid hundreds of thousands per session
  7. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 3 December 2020 10: 36
    +1
    the Ukrainian side expressed a desire to build not eight boats, as previously planned, but six
    It is clear that so many hobbyists were put up that the price increased, and the money was barely enough.
    the parties discussed obtaining new types of weapons
    I wonder what the brits are going to supply to Ukraine from new samples?
    1. Shkworen
      Shkworen 3 December 2020 10: 44
      +2
      what is the price? they will also build boats on credit, and the descendants will pay :)
      1. Egoza
        Egoza 3 December 2020 11: 03
        +4
        Quote: Shkworen
        they will build boats on credit, and their descendants will pay :)

        descendants will not live so much!
    2. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 3 December 2020 11: 04
      0
      Quote: rotmistr60
      I wonder what the brits are going to supply to Ukraine from new samples?

      If you want to ruin Ukraine, give her a cruiser (or battleship).
  8. venik
    venik 3 December 2020 10: 43
    +1
    "...Naval Forces Commander Rear Admiral Alexey Neijpapa held a meeting...... "
    =======
    Isn't that a typo? Precisely "Neizhpapa", not Papandopulo ??? lol laughing
    1. Reviews
      Reviews 3 December 2020 11: 27
      +2
      Quote: venik
      "...Naval Forces Commander Rear Admiral Alexey Neijpapa held a meeting...... "
      =======
      Isn't that a typo? Precisely "Neizhpapa", not Papandopulo ??? lol laughing

      In comparison with the modern hangers-on of the "lords-atamans" Popandopulo is an example of a patriot, statesman and zealous honest business executive. On the contrary, many of their handlers have every chance of becoming an independent household name, surpassing in this sense "Pan Adjutant" in a tattered vest. However, ours too.
  9. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
    Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 3 December 2020 11: 21
    0
    I guess this is not the last visit of the sailor to the British. The specifications will be changed five more times.
    therefore - impromptu:

    (UK Embassy in Kiev. Attaché's office. Secretary enters)
    Secretary:
    Sir!
    Knocking on the door with a fist
    This ... how is it ... the head.
    And yesterday I climbed into the window.
    This is mister .... Ney..ij..father.

    Attache (choking on a 15 year old glenlivet):

    What about? Whining about guns again ???
    Where is he?

    Secretary:

    He's in the dining room. Eats dumplings.

    Attache:
    Take vodka out of the bar -
    Otherwise, that m ... to
    will require a submarine

    Secretary (smiling carnivore):

    So what - let the dogs go?

    well, etc., etc.
  10. Kuroneko
    Kuroneko 3 December 2020 11: 59
    0
    The mosquito fleet is clearly for only one single operation. After it, everything will go to the bottom, fulfilling the will of the Gauleiters.
    Yes, yes, I mean the damp Ukrop plans to destroy the Crimean bridge.
  11. michael2000
    michael2000 3 December 2020 12: 09
    0
    Also, the Ukrainian side expressed a desire to build not eight boats, as previously planned, but six.

    Reminds the story of the Zumvolts. As a result, one boat will be built and it will rot at the pier.
  12. svoit
    svoit 3 December 2020 12: 21
    0
    Quote: OrangeBigg
    Everyone was naively trying to please someone

    They tried the wrong people, they should have liked the elite, for which they don't need a lot of money, and they will find a way to explain to their people who is the enemy and who is the friend.
  13. Rubi0
    Rubi0 3 December 2020 12: 31
    -1
    Well, at least in this news, it's good that the developers of Neptune will not receive an order and money and will be poor by buying everything on the West
    1. Reviews
      Reviews 3 December 2020 12: 35
      +3
      Quote: Rubi0
      Well, at least in this news, it's good that the Neptune developers will not receive an order

      Well, why, they may well equip coastal complexes with them.
  14. Viktor Sergeev
    Viktor Sergeev 3 December 2020 12: 38
    +1
    Let them put up a tower from the battleship.
  15. askort154
    askort154 3 December 2020 12: 41
    -2
    in London expect the visit of the Minister of Defense of Ukraine with the final proposal for the construction of boats.

    Do not customize ...... Neizpapa thinks! How to quickly master the English one, and how to strengthen the artillery armament of the boat with the Hammer mortar. what
  16. TermNachTer
    TermNachTer 3 December 2020 13: 27
    0
    Considering that all British contracts tend to rise in price sharply, after their conclusion, I think that there will not be 6))))