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With the world on a string. A little about the supply of the People's Militia of the LDNR

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No longer a militia



The times when the militia needed literally everything, and caravans with various assistance arrived in Donbass almost every day, are long gone. Today, LDNR is protected not even by the People's Militia, but by the "Armed Forces" of the republic. This status is becoming more and more real. And urgent service for the male population of the republics is an issue that can be resolved as early as next year. It was not without reason that in November the LPR held “gatherings” of reservists (in fact, they just found out who was on the spot and ready to respond).

At the same time, in the seventh year of its existence, the People's Militia still suffers not only from ailments traditional for any armed forces, but also from its own specific ailments.

One of the most obvious and painful of these is the issue of supply. The years have passed. Many beautiful words sounded. But many of the needs of NM are still covered by the help of volunteers or the servicemen themselves.

On allowance


The so-called clothing allowance given to the servicemen of the NM LDPR is, in practice, reduced to a set of “figures” ꟷ most often worn. But even if a new "uniform" comes across, it still doesn't make it any easier. Most likely, they sew it somewhere on the territory of the republics, so the quality is appropriate.

Many fighters (especially on the front line) prefer to buy high-quality Russian counterparts instead of the cold and cheesy local government uniform. The same applies to footwear: all that the People's Militia can offer are tarpaulin boots. And you need to buy normal shoes yourself.

All useful (and not so) little things, such as a travel bag and its contents, an officer's tablet, an entrenching tool and much more, are also purchased by the military at their own expense. Most often, they even buy insignia, cockades, chevrons, badges and other "jewelry" on their own. They say that for the time being there is no need to pay for medals, but they prepare for participation in parades according to the same scheme - a dress uniform (which costs about 15 thousand rubles) is sewn with their own funds.

We are fighting on our hard-earned


In principle, it is not critical. If you want to serve and fight in comfort, equip yourself. Unfortunately, they often also have to fight on their own, blood. It cannot be said that the command did not allocate anything for the front at all. However, the quantity and quality is poor. So the fighters have to buy (or ask volunteers) building materials for arranging trenches, a camouflage net (you always need a lot of it), bags, shovels, wood, etc.

The use of our own vehicles is almost a tradition. Gasoline for him also has to be paid out of pocket. Transport and spare parts, sights and all kinds of body kits, binoculars and periscopes, communications equipment, medicines and other needs ... If it were not for the help of caring people and personal funds (they are thrown into the boiler every month even in the deep rear), it would be very problematic to fight.

Weapon free


Good, weapon and ammunition is still being supplied in the required quantities. Correctly.

And the most amazing thing is that it's completely free for now.

Where are the organizational conclusions?


In this whole situation, it is not the very existence of the problem that is strange. What else to expect from a young military? Which were created (and are being formed) on a living thread in the conditions of hostilities at the end of 2014 ꟷ early 2015 and the subsequent sluggish war? With an acute shortage of qualified personnel?

The strange thing is that over the past years, apparently, no organizational conclusions have been made. And no one took decisive steps to correct the mistakes.

Looking at the People's Militia (and what is there - at the republics in general), it sometimes seems that the retrograde mentality inherited from Ukraine is indestructible. And even if he is reborn, then, alas, only after many generations.

Because how else can we assess total carelessness, irresponsibility, the habit of spitting on laws and rules? And also blind confidence that a bad tomorrow will never come?

But it will come sooner late. Perhaps not in the form of a full-scale war. And in the format of auditors and criminal liability.

This is what will indeed come as a surprise to many in the LPNR.
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  1. Overlock
    Overlock 4 December 2020 15: 06
    +29
    Fortunately, weapons and ammunition are still being supplied in the required quantities. Correctly.

    And what is the most amazing ꟷ while completely free.

    what are the hints? It shouldn't be otherwise
    1. BDRM 667
      BDRM 667 4 December 2020 16: 07
      +5
      From the author:
      Many fighters (especially on the front line) prefer to buy quality Russian counterparts instead of the cold and cheesy local government uniform.

      The field "figure" (it is also a ceremonial-day one) is sewn there on the spot, from the fabric imported from us, the so-called "glass" in the form of which it is hot and parked in summer and dubar in winter ...
      The same applies to shoes: all that the People's Militia can offer are tarpaulin boots. And you need to buy normal shoes yourself.

      And "kirzachi" are ours ... "Faraday". The information is accurate - from there.

      So this is not what the People's Militia offers to its fighters, but what we have proposed to the republics.

      Such :





      And less often, a slightly newer "lightweight" model with a molded sole:

      1. Krasnoyarsk
        Krasnoyarsk 4 December 2020 17: 53
        +2
        Quote: BDRM 667
        Such :

        Well, I don’t know, I went through these two years and was pleased. Because in those climatic conditions it is even difficult to come up with the best shoes.
    2. Mikle2000
      Mikle2000 5 December 2020 10: 42
      -1
      Конечно.
      The goal is to kill enemies. For this, weapons are provided to kill.
      There are no goals to keep their own. Therefore, uniforms and other body armor are not supplied.
      Upon closer examination, it turns out that they are not so different - enemies and friends - the more they kill each other, the better the Kremlin - in fact, for this, the existence of the republics is supported by Russia.
  2. Sergey M. Karasev
    Sergey M. Karasev 4 December 2020 15: 14
    +5
    Hopefully the free weapons are not in the same quality category as the free uniforms and shoes?
    1. phakic
      phakic 4 December 2020 19: 41
      +1
      Strelkotnya is currently supplied to our army of lower quality than in the LPNR. While they are fighting the war with "GOST" machine guns, our troops are mastering the AK-12/15 / "Body kit", which is not something to fight with, it's just that the exercises of the KS are not possible to work out everything ...
  3. Bolt cutter
    Bolt cutter 4 December 2020 15: 20
    +1
    they sew it somewhere on the territory of the republics, so the quality is appropriate.
    Isn't it possible to establish high-quality tailoring? Moreover, having a university chemical laboratory and personnel (and desire) at your disposal, you can also supply yourself with high-quality medicines. (Even enough for export) Does no one really care?
    1. The leader of the Redskins
      The leader of the Redskins 4 December 2020 15: 51
      +2
      They took it off the tongue. Anyway, there were, are and will be tailoring specialists. The fabric is either China or ours, but the quality is not different there. Threads - you can and should choose high quality. So what's the problem with sewing a quality uniform? Or have they already "re-published" that even the seamstresses are gone ?!
      1. Bolt cutter
        Bolt cutter 4 December 2020 15: 55
        +3
        It is quite possible that seamstresses and technologists are already working in Ivanovo.
        1. BDRM 667
          BDRM 667 4 December 2020 16: 15
          +7
          Quote: Bolt Cutter
          It is quite possible that seamstresses and technologists are already working in Ivanovo.

          The shape THERE is sewn, but from the fabrics with which we supplied them.
          And from poop as not molding, not candy does not work, not a bullet.
      2. BDRM 667
        BDRM 667 4 December 2020 16: 13
        +4
        Quote: Leader of the Redskins
        So what's the problem with sewing a quality uniform? Or have they already "re-published" that even the seamstresses are gone ?!


        That -
        Quote: Leader of the Redskins
        The fabric is either China or ours


        Or either yes But the one we put there.
        And if we saved money and bought nasty things in China, then what can we make of this?
      3. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
        Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 4 December 2020 20: 07
        0
        ... So what's the problem with sewing a quality uniform?

        They sewed Santa Claus here! laughing
    2. Krasnoyarsk
      Krasnoyarsk 4 December 2020 17: 57
      +2
      Quote: Bolt Cutter
      Isn't it possible to establish high-quality tailoring?

      Rather, either their hands do not reach, or they do not know how to approach the solution of this, and many others, issue. Rather, even both. Many cannot even imagine how huge the range of unsolvable, in their conditions, problems is. Plus the deficit of state business executives.
  4. Bolt cutter
    Bolt cutter 4 December 2020 15: 29
    -4
    most often worn
    A big boy (with a box) over there wears the Royal mail uniform. At the ninth second, it is clearly visible. Where did he get it-HZ. They don't sell it in stores.
    1. Avior
      Avior 4 December 2020 16: 23
      0
      2015, then the supply was from a pine forest
      1. Bolt cutter
        Bolt cutter 4 December 2020 16: 24
        0
        Maybe you know WHERE he got it?
        1. BDRM 667
          BDRM 667 4 December 2020 16: 44
          +1
          Quote: Bolt Cutter
          Maybe you know WHERE he got it?

          In "second hand", do not go to grandma yes Either some volunteers drove it in, or relatives sent it, or bought it myself on vacation.
          Now they have so-and-so uniformity in their uniforms, but on the front lines anything can happen.
          For example, in 2014-15 there were a lot of B / U Bundeswehr "flecktarn", like sets, then the soldiers looked like NATO, or in disagreement, then on a rabble of hungry and beggars.

          I remember that there was even a video where the Bandera killer poses in the "flecktarn" at the "Grad" ready to fire at the city.
          Uniform with Bundeswehr patches

          1. Bolt cutter
            Bolt cutter 4 December 2020 16: 49
            +3
            Flecktarn, like tropentarn (Afghan Bundeswehr), is probably the leader of the second-hand army. High quality, convenient, cheap. Sold at flea markets everywhere, from Portugal to Latvia. More convenient tropentarn with mesh inserts for warm and even really hot weather has never met.
        2. Avior
          Avior 4 December 2020 20: 21
          +2
          Then all sorts of volunteers pulled where they found, and this not only concerned the form. They brought all kinds of donations from abroad, they could collect them. Most likely, it happened by accident, it is unlikely that there were many of them.
  5. Mikle2000
    Mikle2000 4 December 2020 16: 03
    -4
    Well, that's what makes people suffer, wear bad clothes, eat bad food, sit in trenches, risk their lives, try to kill other people. And all for the sake of the inhabitants of the LDNR to live BAD. Worse than before the war, worse than residents of Kharkov or Severodonetsk live now. This is how much you need to be blinkered, not to see the situation as a whole that you are being used to their advantage by a bunch of villains.
    1. Egoza
      Egoza 4 December 2020 16: 14
      0
      Quote: Mikle2000
      This is how much you need to be blinkered, not to see the situation as a whole that you are being used to their advantage by a bunch of villains.

      What should they do? No work, no money. Here they at least get food and drink, and maybe drugs. And it's easier to lie to yourself that he is "for the idea" than to admit that he is a sucker!
      1. Mikle2000
        Mikle2000 4 December 2020 16: 17
        -1
        And what should they do - a universal excuse for whoever they want. At least for the SS, at least for the policemen, at least for the thieves who rob grandmothers' apartments.
        There is something a man can do except serve scoundrels for a bad deed.
      2. vladimirvn
        vladimirvn 4 December 2020 16: 29
        0
        Didn't expect this from you
        Quote: Egoza
        What should they do? No work, no money. Here they at least get food and drink, and maybe drugs. And it's easier to lie to yourself that he is "for the idea" than to admit that he is a sucker!
        1. Egoza
          Egoza 4 December 2020 17: 09
          0
          Quote: vladimirvn
          Didn't expect this from you

          Alas! It's true. The whole "army" is based on this. Well, it's scary and the spirit does not have enough to rise up against. you have no idea how many suicides there are among those who returned from there.
    2. Ratmir_Ryazan
      Ratmir_Ryazan 4 December 2020 17: 50
      +2
      Well, that's what makes people suffer, wear bad clothes, eat bad food, sit in trenches, risk their lives, try to kill other people. And all for the sake of the inhabitants of the LDNR to live BAD. Worse than before the war, worse than residents of Kharkov or Severodonetsk live now. This is how much you need to be blinkered, not to see the situation as a whole that you are being used to their advantage by a bunch of villains.


      They use you, and there in the Donbass people are ready to endure anything so that their children remain Russian, remember the history of their people and be proud of it and do not sell themselves and their people and do not consider traitors like Mazepa, Bandera and other corrupt skins to be heroes.

      With all this, Donbass signed the Minsk agreements, that is, it is ready to remain a part of Ukraine, provided that the Russian language is the official language in this region, they will have their own police, their own elected authorities and free trade with Russia. Anything more they do not want !!!

      So why don't you give them this status, but continue to fire? Why did Ukraine vilely eliminate some militia leaders during the truce? Why didn't you do anything in Ukraine to make you want to live in the same country?

      And your standard of living will soon become much worse than that of the residents of Donbass. Donbass will always support Russia, and you beg for another loan. If gas prices rise, the hungry crowd will put your power on a pitchfork.
      1. Mikle2000
        Mikle2000 4 December 2020 19: 10
        -6
        Someone prevented these Russian people from registering a party, holding a rally, and winning elections. No, they sat on the priest exactly, waited for the Russian armed bandits and happily joined them in anticipation of buns from Russia. Which, of course, threw them at the first difficulties. Ok, I am even ready to accept their delusions of 6 years ago, but who do you need to be to persist in your delusions for 6 years?
        By the way, I am a Russian who pays for this whole banquet - both directly, the salaries of local doctors, teachers and militias, retirement pensions, and indirectly through falling incomes, rising prices and other sanctions / articulations.
        By the way, I visited both Kharkov and Severodonetsk - nowhere are there problems with the Russian language. Yes, it is probably disgusting to receive payments for housing and communal services in Ukrainian - so win at least the local elections, do not make a war. It's horror how many people from your republics have fled - and not a small part to that very Ukraine where it is impossible to live.
        1. Ratmir_Ryazan
          Ratmir_Ryazan 4 December 2020 21: 21
          +2
          What kind of Russian parties and fair elections in Ukraine are you talking about ?!

          And this is after people like you dill for some reason were not re-elected in the elections of Yanukovych, but for this they staged a provocation and a mass execution on the Maidan.

          From Ukraine itself, you counted how many dill people ran away ?! And no one bombed or fired at them.

          Your salary in Russia is only due to the fact that at the time of the split of the USSR you were lucky to stay in that part of it where there were more resources, and the Russians of Donbass, like Crimea, were not lucky with this.

          It is very sad that Russians like you are ready to leave part of their own people, if only their life was a little sweeter and more satisfying.

          Today you have betrayed part of your people, tomorrow they will leave you, the day after tomorrow there will be no Russia.
          1. Mikle2000
            Mikle2000 4 December 2020 21: 29
            -7
            It’s not a Russian citizen to reproach Ukraine for suppressing the political activities of the opposition.
            I am ready to help Russians with money, cultural exchange, and repatriation to Russia. But not with tanks that they would shoot from them at other Russians or even Ukrainians. And I do not wish the fate of Donetsk or Kharkov or Kiev. Because you need to understand - from the other side, there are also enough people who want to shoot and you will have to kill very, very many (bad) people in order for a good life to live well. And to be honest, Russia is not that style, showing which one can say - this is how one should live in the world.
            As for the future disintegration of Russia, it is quite real, only we see different reasons for this threat.
            1. Egor-dis
              Egor-dis 5 December 2020 10: 16
              0
              Quote: Mikle2000
              repatriation to Russia

              Let's better help you with repatriation for the right bank of the Dnieper, to the Bandershtats, to the dawn of time, to the racially correct Ukraine. Because everything else is the legacy of the MULTINATIONAL Ukrainian Socialist REPUBLIC within the USSR, and before that - the MULTINATIONAL Russian Empire.
              1. Mikle2000
                Mikle2000 5 December 2020 10: 45
                -2
                Well, if you, the fighters against fascism put you at least a little to shame, then all the piss and climbs out. And it becomes clear that the fighters are not so different from those with whom they are fighting.
                1. Mikle2000
                  Mikle2000 5 December 2020 10: 45
                  -2
                  Scrape a little
                2. Egor-dis
                  Egor-dis 5 December 2020 11: 00
                  0
                  Quote: Mikle2000
                  And it becomes clear that the fighters are not so different from those with whom they are fighting.
                  Yes, yes, I am aware that the mental abilities of Svidomo Ukrainians do not allow you to see the difference. Have you forgotten to add "What about us?"
                  1. Mikle2000
                    Mikle2000 5 December 2020 11: 28
                    -2
                    Well, the very fact of an attempt to offend the interlocutor by referring (fair or not) him to any nationality clearly indicates ...
                    1. Egor-dis
                      Egor-dis 5 December 2020 13: 23
                      0
                      Quote: Mikle2000
                      Well, here is the very fact of an attempt to insult the interlocutor by referring (fair or not) him to any nationality
                      So for you "Ukrainian" is an insult? laughing
                      1. Mikle2000
                        Mikle2000 5 December 2020 14: 00
                        -2
                        So your linking intelligence to nationality is a coincidence? What other inferior nations do you know?
                      2. Egor-dis
                        Egor-dis 5 December 2020 23: 08
                        0
                        Quote: Mikle2000
                        What other inferior nations do you know?

                        These are your words. And I know mentally disabled citizens who have made their mental disability a national policy and now, under these cretin-schizophrenic patterns, they grind the entire population of their country. Or do you really consider everything that happens in ukraine to be the norm?
                      3. Mikle2000
                        Mikle2000 6 December 2020 00: 16
                        -2
                        Everything that happens in Ukraine is of course much more normal than what happens in the republics. Ukraine is not at all the place where I would like to live, but if the alternative is Donetsk with its curfew, bandits in power and the ability to sit in the basement at any time, you don’t understand why, with its muddy status, the inability to calmly leave for Europe / Asia / America - of course I, a Russian person who knows three words in mov - I will choose Ukraine
                      4. Egor-dis
                        Egor-dis 6 December 2020 16: 27
                        0
                        Quote: Mikle2000
                        Russian person who knows three words in mov - I will choose Ukraine

                        Who would doubt it, "Russian".
      2. Ratmir_Ryazan
        Ratmir_Ryazan 5 December 2020 13: 37
        0
        Ukraine began to shoot and bomb.
        1. Mikle2000
          Mikle2000 5 December 2020 14: 04
          -2
          Remind me of Russia's behavior in Chechnya? Which did not hesitate to bomb the formidable population of Russians (and Chechens, citizens of Russia for a second). And as a result - how many Russian people live in the newly rebuilt Grozny for money?
  6. Egor-dis
    Egor-dis 5 December 2020 10: 32
    0
    Quote: Mikle2000
    Someone prevented these Russian people from registering a party, holding a rally, winning elections ...
    Remind me what happened to Efremov, Tsarev, Kernes, Symonenko, Buzina, who had the imprudence to drown for the Russian-speaking population of the South-East by political methods.
    Quote: Mikle2000
    By the way, I am a Russian who pays for this whole banquet
    Yeah, "Russian" who pays for the banquet from the SBU cash desk.
    Quote: Mikle2000
    It's horror how many people from your republics have fled - and not a small part to the very Ukraine where it is impossible to live.
    That's what I look at Ukrainian population loses a year. Here's just one question. And what are you, "Russian", so in Russia "suffer"? Suitcase - station - ukraina. Shiri lads will gladly receive you. Moreover,
    Quote: Mikle2000
    I visited both Kharkov and Severodonetsk - nowhere are there any problems with the Russian language.
    Well, go ahead! Ridna Nenka was tired of waiting.
    1. Mikle2000
      Mikle2000 5 December 2020 23: 04
      -2
      Well, go ahead! Ridna Nenka was tired of waiting.


      By the way, you quite accurately noticed that one of the losses for me in this whole sad story is the impossibility to go neither to the Crimea, nor Donetsk, nor Kiev, nor Lions.
      Although it is certainly ridiculous to compare these problems with the problems of the residents of Donetsk, the problems of refugees, and even more so the problems of the murdered
  7. awdrgy
    awdrgy 5 December 2020 13: 16
    0
    Look at how much Russian gangsters and Russians pay for, and at the same time a Russian himself is of such a Western orientation (nickname is Michael) Uncle not a single Russian will be called Michael (in a bastard because) And this is suspicious And if you are such a smart Russian, then where is yours a party that is going to hold rallies and win elections? (In Russia, of course) Well, maybe it already exists, such a strong Russian party where everything is completely Michael and Johnny)))? Or maybe not Russian? -Then no one needs her nafig.In short, do not load the forest and do not meddle in our Russian problems
    1. Mikle2000
      Mikle2000 5 December 2020 14: 18
      -2
      I cannot organize a party - they will be jailed or poisoned and in any case will not be registered. But will you allow me to have an opinion? That shooters and other motor scooters are real bandits - just distilled examples of them.
      1. awdrgy
        awdrgy 5 December 2020 15: 17
        0
        You see, they will plant or poison (which is unlikely, because no one is going to produce heroes there, they are not fools sitting there). it's suspicious. Why is he doing this? By the way, why let's say rifle bandits? What is the rationale for this? Just as an example if th
        1. Mikle2000
          Mikle2000 5 December 2020 15: 22
          -2
          Then who? Illegal armed people who commit an extensive list of crimes. Yes, "our" bandits, but undoubtedly bandits.
          1. awdrgy
            awdrgy 5 December 2020 17: 09
            +1
            These are general words I would like specifics For example, under what law - "illegal armed" (I did not forbid them my neighbor Vasya, too) Or why - "bandits" and not, for example, partisans or agents of influence?
            1. Mikle2000
              Mikle2000 5 December 2020 19: 06
              -2
              Starting from illegal border crossing, carrying weapons, then everywhere. Imagine that cute Chinese without insignia come to the aid of the fraternal Buryat or Tuvinian people (Turks, Chechens or Crimean Tatars). Without a declaration of war, the demands of the central government. What do you call them? Saboteurs, terrorists, bandits? What nafig are they rebels or partisans on the territory of a foreign country?
              1. awdrgy
                awdrgy 5 December 2020 23: 02
                0
                You see, you see some kind of non-Russian (even without vodka it's clear) What is the border? - this is a Russian land, albeit temporarily occupied And the Turks have already come to the aid of the Tatars (this is their truth and their right) True, this ended badly for them, but this is their problem I wrote partisans or agents of influence, but I didn’t write about the rebels and saboteurs, and it’s not just that. We do not yet have the government to declare war, there is a government of Russia, but what relation does it have to the affairs of the riflemen, I find it difficult to say and you apparently have information or how ?
                1. Mikle2000
                  Mikle2000 5 December 2020 23: 20
                  -2
                  Shooters crossed the Russian border. Moreover, on the territory of the Russian Federation, he moved with weapons. Which is a crime in itself. No, I understand that "ours" can break the law, but I perceive him precisely as a bandit. And even if our convictions coincided with him (which of course is not so), I would not want to live in the territory controlled by this cute gang and in case of something to deal with them.
                2. awdrgy
                  awdrgy 7 December 2020 11: 37
                  +1
                  I also moved around the territory of the Russian Federation with weapons (Moreover, my father and grandfather and great-grandfather and great-great-grandfather moved around our land with weapons) But we did not commit any crime And I am not close to a bandit What is the crime? Gang control-word clichés (unproven)
                3. Mikle2000
                  Mikle2000 7 December 2020 19: 34
                  -1
                  with automatic? Not registered for yourself? Made
                4. awdrgy
                  awdrgy 8 December 2020 14: 24
                  +1
                  With an automatic issued for itself and with a non-automatic, the same (Great-great-grandfather, of course, no, he did not have an automatic one) And we did not commit crimes I better know if I killed someone or not (well, or I robbed there, etc.)
                5. awdrgy
                  awdrgy 8 December 2020 14: 59
                  +1
                  But this is, in principle, demagoguery (I understand what you mean) But I don't see the logic, because if he moved with a weapon that he could not have according to the laws of the Russian Federation, but he was not imprisoned having the opportunity, then he is an agent of influence of the Russian Federation but not a bandit. that otherwise, that is, if he tried to annex Russian lands to the territory of the Russian Federation (which looks ridiculous, but oh well) he would be a partisan and of course he would be imprisoned or otherwise deprived of the opportunity to do this. What I wrote above Therefore, the bandit is not true You're lying
                6. Mikle2000
                  Mikle2000 8 December 2020 16: 22
                  -1
                  What did I write? Our bandit.
                  And by the way, the likelihood of him sitting down is more than non-fancy
                7. awdrgy
                  awdrgy 9 December 2020 15: 25
                  +1
                  There is a huge difference between a bandit and an ideological fighter or a person in the service And this is fair and unambiguous You are engaged in the substitution of concepts Call things not by their proper names, thus creating an illusion that has nothing to do with reality Perhaps being in a world of illusions, perhaps trying to impose an illusory point of view on the readers of comments You are engaged in a useless business (because VO readers are a special contingent), which is actually (indirectly) evidenced by your rating
                8. Mikle2000
                  Mikle2000 10 December 2020 16: 36
                  -1
                  As if a bandit cannot be an ideological fighter. Especially when his ideas coincide with yours. And as soon as he is Bender, he is not an ideological fighter and a bandit, but just a bandit.
                  As for the rating - well, yes, in general there are not many smart people, and even among those who do not like the West ...
                9. awdrgy
                  awdrgy 11 December 2020 13: 20
                  +1
                  A bandit - no, it can't because they have different goals. You would have ranked the fighters against otherworldly forces among the bandits. There are also such people, and by the way they run around with weapons (there are rumors that they are even trickier than any revolutionaries). And Bandera went against the Russians. He's not Russian, right or no? (I didn’t study the question) Because if I was Russian, then a traitor, and for the idea there or for the gingerbread, it’s not interesting for us I call enemies enemies and not bandits and I don’t change concepts And yes, we are all who do not like the West stupid weak cunning animal-like and drink the blood of foxes We want to enslave and even corrupt all well-wishers)) In general, evil Tartars on evil resources And those smart, kind, beautiful and generally elves-well-wishers who come to them and drown them to the west turn out to be masochists? This happens (well, there are private clinics for this, if that's what)
  • Ratmir_Ryazan
    Ratmir_Ryazan 4 December 2020 17: 40
    +2
    I regularly, from each salary through the Vkontakte group "Summaries of the Novorossiya militia" provide financial assistance to the fighters of Donbass / Novorossia. Zhuchkovsky is engaged in purchases, all reports are provided. Previously, they bought all kinds of equipment, now they mainly help the wounded.

    Join us, Russian people are fighting there to keep their children Russian and we are obliged to help them.

    There are millions of us, from each of us a couple of hundred will not leave, and there it will save hundreds of lives, hundreds of lives of Russian people.
  • Cowbra
    Cowbra 4 December 2020 19: 38
    +2
    In-from. Always sincerely infuriated that very often in Novorossia they simply do not see that they repeat everything for which they scold dill. No, thank God, not everything, but the hatoscry, turning into indifference - reached the liver. I thought that something had changed now, but I see it. So you can really reach Karabakh-2.
    1. The leader of the Redskins
      The leader of the Redskins 4 December 2020 21: 20
      0
      Forget the word Novorossiya!
      There is no her. The Supreme Commander clearly said - LDNR is Ukraine.
      The Novorossiya project is closed.
      1. Avior
        Avior 4 December 2020 22: 23
        +1
        And nobody opened it
        LPR separately, DPR separately
  • Nikolaevich I
    Nikolaevich I 4 December 2020 21: 39
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    Mdaaaaa! It's been a long time since the "LDNR" has been remembered! Well, okay ... even if it is now, rather than at the wrong time! There is also antires ... production of weapons and military equipment in the "LPNR"! I remember how back in 14-15 the people in VO were very worried that the DPR and LPR were in no hurry to establish their own military production, despite the presence of a “diverse” and developed industry ... they say, the production of MLRS, mortars, RPG-2 type grenade launchers and mines could be organized! Much later, messages began to appear that "the ice was broken" ... But all these messages were and still are scattered! And then there was infa that after the death of Zakharchenko and the missile production was closed! That's why I had a proposal to the authors of "who can" ... collect scattered information and please us with an article on the production of weapons (military equipment) in "LDNR" .... if available!
    1. Egor-dis
      Egor-dis 5 December 2020 10: 49
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      Quote: Nikolaevich I
      collect scattered information and please us with an article on the production of weapons (military equipment) in the "LPNR" .... if any!

      There is none. First, because of broken connections. Because the production of such a product requires raw materials and supplies. The same metal rolling, gunpowder, explosives. Well, with metal, at the very least, it may work out, but the entire chemical industry remained behind the front line. Plus, it is definitely unprofitable production, which the state budget will not cover. And patriotism in the days of capitalism is a very expensive thing.
      Secondly, it would be possible to try to organize the receipt of raw materials and materials from Russia, but in Russia this seems to be of no interest to anyone.
      Thirdly, (it smells of conspiracy, but ...) there is a suspicion that this is an unspoken agreement between Ukraine and Russia as a trailer to the "Minsk Agreements".
  • Egor-dis
    Egor-dis 5 December 2020 02: 17
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    Oh you, ekarny babay! And the cons will fly to me. Well, okay, let's start blessing.
    The article is 98% true. But there are some nuances.
    Many fighters (especially on the front line) prefer to buy quality Russian counterparts instead of the cold and cheesy local government uniform.
    On the front lines, yes. And in the rear of the team for the “Russian woman,” they pinch hard.
    The same applies to shoes: all that the People's Militia can offer are tarpaulin boots.
    Insolent slander! This year, in fear of bossy anger, they were forced to get ankle boots. True, all units were given size 48, but that is. The report on the provision of soldiers to the top is gone. Well, the report about the size discrepancy must have been lost somewhere. And so, yes, at the formation as many as 2 fighters were shod (with the size they guessed). The rest held in their hands. "Provided 100% l / s". Those who could - exchanged with other divisions. Who did not regret - for 500 rubles in the market traded for their size. The rest have scored and walk in their own. And the bureaucrats are in a box, in a storeroom.
    They say that you don't have to pay for medals yet ...
    Already needed.
    but they prepare for participation in the parades according to the same scheme - the dress uniform (which costs about 15 thousand rubles) is sewn with their own funds.
    Oh, we're so lucky. 6 sput came out.
    Fortunately, weapons and ammunition are still being supplied in the required quantities. Correctly.
    Maybe they do. That's just at the BZ, 4 magazines are given out. And for the lichen they pinch "Mama do not cry."
    In this whole situation, it is not the very existence of the problem that is strange ... It is strange that over the past years, apparently, no organizational conclusions have been made.
    And then a logical question arises - who should make these organizational conclusions? Are they local commanders? Or is it still "vacationers" with the ranks of colonels and above who command the brigade corps? So they don't seem to need it. They could serve their year without problems and go home. If you can also cut the dough, it’s just nishtyak. And if somewhere someone has received something less, has not learned something, etc., then let it be quickened by the successor.
    sometimes it seems that the retrograde mentality inherited from Ukraine is indestructible.
    Well, yes, let's blame it on a healthy head.
    Because how else can you assess total carelessness, irresponsibility, the habit of spitting on laws and rules?
    Appreciate as inability to ask the right questions and distinguish cause from effect.
    And also blind confidence that a bad tomorrow will never come?
    In secret. Here we are absolutely sure that a bad tomorrow will come, most likely in the form of a full-scale war. But in Russia, after communicating with the contingent that comes here to command, there is practically no faith left.

    In general, if you look at the actions and attitudes of the visiting "vacationers", one gets the impression that either there is a deliberate drain of the armed forces of the republics (with a possible Karabakh / Croatian scenario), or Russia simply does not know what to do with this People's Militia. Therefore, there is a violent imitation of activity.

    Another respect to the skill of Yegor Makhov, who knows how to turn everything upside down with just a couple of paragraphs at the end of the article.
    1. Mikle2000
      Mikle2000 5 December 2020 10: 52
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      Explain to me as a participant in the action. You yourself understand who and why pulled you into this endless (it will not end and in another 10 years, Ukraine will not fight you - what a ruined land and an embittered population) action. Or so after 6 years and repeat the mantra - they say we are fighting on the front lines with the Western worlds against fascism for the Russian Orthodox people. Do you feel sorry for these Russians themselves that they are drinking a full bowl behind your backs and without any shelling?
      I understand from the inside it is difficult to take a look at the situation as a whole, the war drags on, but do not even thoughts of thinking over and analyzing the state of affairs arise?
      1. Egor-dis
        Egor-dis 5 December 2020 13: 16
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        Quote: Mikle2000
        You yourself understand who and why pulled you into this

        I understand perfectly. Because, unlike Ukraine (where carriers of alternative points of view on this action are physically eliminated), I can not only look at the situation as a whole, but I have also been tracking it since the time of the Orange coup.
        Who pulled in? Those who handed out cookies on the Maidan, who officially admitted that they had invested in the coup d'etat in Ukraine, 5 lards of greenery, who trained militants in the Baltic states and in the Banderists, pumped Russophobia and weapons into the entire right-bank Ukraine. Who, in exchange for loans from the IMF and visa-free travel, gave the entire South-East for the development of shale gas. Who yelled "separatism" in the VR at a constructive proposal on the language issue and federalization and sent troops to fight with his people. Those who stated from the rostrum that "Donbass will be Ukrainian or deserted", who clearly demonstrated in Odessa and Mariupol what will happen to those who disagree.
        And yes, I feel sorry for both the Russians and the Little Russians (not to be confused with the Ukrainians) on both sides of the front. Some suffer from shelling by the Armed Forces of Ukraine, others from “quiet” communal genocide and the erosion of identity through violent Ukrainization. And, yes, I agree, it will not end soon, because the perpetrators of this action are not only not brought to justice, but they continue to occupy state posts in Ukraine, the European Union and the United States.
        1. Mikle2000
          Mikle2000 5 December 2020 13: 30
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          My sympathy. Sitting in the trenches for a long time, is hopeless and meaningless.
          But do you at least realize that a Russian person in Kharkov / Severodonetsk has a better life than in Lugansk / Donetsk. And your contribution to this difference is also there?
          1. Egor-dis
            Egor-dis 5 December 2020 23: 28
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            Quote: Mikle2000
            Sitting in the trenches for a long time, is hopeless and meaningless.
            So do you. And when also Transcarpathia will run away to the Hungarians, you will sit on two fronts in trenches. And there, and Poland wants to chop off a piece for itself.
            Quote: Mikle2000
            But do you at least realize that a Russian person in Kharkov / Severodonetsk has a better life than in Lugansk / Donetsk.
            The only advantage of the Russians in Kharkiv / Severodonetsk is that they do not expect that they can fly from the Armed Forces of Ukraine at any time. Although, in Lugansk no longer wait. For all other vital parameters (housing and communal services / electricity / gas, medical care, language issues, roads and a whole bunch of other things) in Ukraine is objectively worse. And if we consider that Biden wants to resume the development of shale in the Kharkov region, then it will be worse not only for Russians, but also for Little Russians.
            1. Niel-le-Calais
              Niel-le-Calais 6 December 2020 01: 15
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              Quote: Egor-dis
              The only advantage of the Russians in Kharkiv / Severodonetsk is that they do not expect that they can fly from the Armed Forces of Ukraine at any time. Although, in Lugansk no longer wait. For all other vital parameters (housing and communal services / electricity / gas, medical care, language issues, roads and a whole bunch of other things) in ukraine is objectively worse

              What is this comparison based on, if the statistics of the same RFP were cited many times. Well, and a comparison of the possibilities of official status (the same passport of Ukraine) in the world and unofficial (well, you cannot go somewhere other than the Russian Federation with a DPR passport, and in the Russian Federation itself it is easier with a Ukrainian passport than with the DPR in many ways)
              Here, even if we consider that a poor but officially recognized country is better than an unrecognized gray zone, and this is evident in the level of salaries and opportunities.
              What is objectively worse? Maybe subjective? I would like to understand from what such an opinion.
              After all, it has long been no secret that 2/3 of the oblasts do not want to return to the LPNR, not just because of the shelling ...
              1. Egor-dis
                Egor-dis 6 December 2020 15: 34
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                Quote: Niel-le-Calais
                What is this comparison based on, if the statistics of the same RFP were cited many times.
                Dill statistics is the same product for purely intra-Kuranian consumption, as is the dill story, which, without shuddering and at face value, can only be consumed by racially correct ukroshumers, who have at the genetic level the absence of those parts of the brain that are responsible for critical comprehension of these statistics and this story. Therefore, trying to explain something to Svidomo based on statistics is a useless and ungrateful thing. For a racially correct ukroshumer, even sitting without gas, coal, water, electricity, food, salary, being evicted from his own house, driven from his own land, suffering from COVID-19, being on his last legs, will still be 1000 % are sure that things are even worse in Russia / Donbass.
                1. Mikle2000
                  Mikle2000 6 December 2020 16: 15
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                  I can imagine how the Nazis, the Germans (there are some of them among them) and the stubborn anti-Soviet Americans, are laughing now, looking behind this sweet skirmish between Russians and Russians and Ukrainians - nothing needs to be done - they are shooting at each other, they themselves hate each other and will not make peace in the foreseeable future for sure.
            2. Mikle2000
              Mikle2000 6 December 2020 10: 05
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              You can't hear me in any way. I'm Russian. Who pity both belligerents, who are suffering losses and worsen their lives as a result of the war. And the words we will kill two enemies for each of our killed do not echo with joy in my heart. The fact that in Ukraine people live objectively better (and what is important not only economically) than in the republics - excuse me, I know from people who have lived there and there. Moreover, these are not only refugees, but also those who are now forced to live in the republics (say, for family reasons). And most of all I am upset by your obstinacy, unwillingness to listen to the interlocutor and willingness to continue to fight until the victorious end, which will never come. Okay, you did something stupid 6 years ago, but not seeing the obvious now is sadness
              1. Egor-dis
                Egor-dis 6 December 2020 16: 22
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                Quote: Mikle2000
                You can't hear me in any way. I'm Russian.

                Uh-huh. "Crimean woman, daughter of an officer."
                Quote: Mikle2000
                Who pity both belligerents, who are suffering losses and worsen their lives as a result of the war.
                Yes Yes. The wolf took pity on the mare ... So what's the problem? Return the APU to the PPD and there will be no war.
                Quote: Mikle2000
                The fact that people in Ukraine are objectively better off (and what is important not only economically) than in the republics - excuse me, I know from people who have lived there and there.
                It would be better there - they would not have fled from Ukraine, incl. and in the LDNR.
                Quote: Mikle2000
                And most of all I am upset by your obstinacy, unwillingness to listen to the interlocutor and willingness to continue fighting until the victorious end, which will never come. Okay, you did something stupid 6 years ago, but not seeing the obvious now is sadness
                You sit like this at home, at the computer, then the doorbell rings. When you open it, some devils are standing (either Krishnaites, or Buddhists, or Pelevin Orcs) and they say that you are a stranger here and now they will live here. But if you agree to serve them and talk to them in their language (Chinese, Hindi or Upper Old Siberian), then you can also stay. If not, live as you want, but not here. Like any normal person, you will most likely send them somewhere far away, and you will be right. But the devils turned out to be pugnacious and arrogant, they refuse to leave and strive to climb into your living space. On a completely legal basis, you kick them in the face and throw them out the door. But they do not go anywhere, moreover, they bring in an even larger crowd of devils and begin to wait for you to leave and free them living space. You can regret the massacre for as long as you want, but you have only two options:
                1.keep the defense and call for help from friends, neighbors, the police
                2. surrender and let them in.
                If you choose option number 2 - dictate your address.
                The entire Southeast of the so-called. Ukraine - historically, Russian, Russian lands inhabited by a MULTINATIONAL, RUSSIAN-SPEAKING population. And NOBODY has the right to build their own mono-ethnic Ukrainian state on this territory.
                1. Mikle2000
                  Mikle2000 6 December 2020 17: 01
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                  Once again, I would be glad that Donetsk was like Kharkov. Where no orcs slaughtered any Russians, who people have normal passports, speak Russian, make plans, give birth and teach children, including in that very hated Europe.
                  But, the more we correspond here, the more you convince me that you deserve your hell, that this is not an accident, but the result of purposeful, conscious activity. Fight, kill, and if the inhabitants of Donetsk curse you, I will not sympathize with you
                  If you appeal to historical justice - well, there was such a nation, headed by Adolf, also appealed to this.
                  1. Egor-dis
                    Egor-dis 6 December 2020 20: 29
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                    Quote: Mikle2000
                    Once again, I would be glad that Donetsk was like Kharkov. Where no orcs slaughtered any Russians, who people have normal passports, speak Russian, make plans, give birth and teach children, including in that very hated Europe.

                    What are you doing! Have you been there? You live there? Or did they write it to you in the manual? And if everything is so normal there, why are you "Russian" suffering so much in Russia? Suitcase - station - ukraina!
                    Quote: Mikle2000
                    that they deserve their hell, that this is not an accident, but the result of purposeful, conscious activity.
                    run faster to the SBU cashier, you are tired of waiting for the prize.
                    Quote: Mikle2000
                    Fight, kill, and if the inhabitants of Donetsk curse you, I will not sympathize with you
                    So far, they are cursing you - the Ukronazis.
                    Quote: Mikle2000
                    If you appeal to historical justice - well, there was such a nation, headed by Adolf, also appealed to this.

                    when the Ukronazist appeals to Adolf it is especially epic!
                    Do not answer. You're not interesting anymore.
                    1. Mikle2000
                      Mikle2000 6 December 2020 22: 46
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                      You see, when faced with a reasonable, balanced position, you instantly jump into the mode - "the interlocutor is an SBU agent." This is very sad, in fact it excludes the possibility on my part of putting forward any arguments - you, identifying them as enemy provocations, simply ignore.
                      However, there is the same trouble on the other side.
                      1. Egor-dis
                        Egor-dis 7 December 2020 07: 29
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                        There is no "reasonable balanced argumentation" on your part. There is no reasoning at all. There are only mantras from the manuals.
                      2. Mikle2000
                        Mikle2000 7 December 2020 10: 40
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                        If you seriously think that Russians are better in Donetsk than in Kharkov or Lvov, I have nothing to tell you. Spend your life - yours and those of others - to preserve the current state of affairs until the power changes in Russia and surrenders the republics to Ukraine. And it's also good if he lets you move to Russia, and does not surrender to the SBU
          2. Mikle2000
            Mikle2000 6 December 2020 16: 12
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            And, by the way, forgive me for being frank, it is not you who pay less for housing and communal services / gas than residents of Kharkov, it is I who pay you for your housing and utilities and gas, while paying for your housing and utilities and your gas more than residents of Ukraine.
            1. Egor-dis
              Egor-dis 6 December 2020 20: 31
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              Since when did the Ukronazis start paying for my utility bills? Do not answer. The question was rhetorical. Although it would be quite fair.
              1. Mikle2000
                Mikle2000 6 December 2020 22: 43
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                Do you seriously think that I am lying by saying that I am a Russian. And do you seriously think that someone other than us, the Russians, pays for the existence of your republics? Starting from gas and ending with the salary of teachers, doctors and janitors? Or has the DPR already learned how to print rubles? Again, I don't mind maybe. But stop nightmare the unfortunate residents - from them, who escaped from your paradise in the social security of the border zone, you can no longer push through - the locals howl, they cannot get a pension
                1. Egor-dis
                  Egor-dis 7 December 2020 07: 27
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                  I've told. Do not answer. I'm not interested in communicating with ukro-bots working on manuals.
                  1. Mikle2000
                    Mikle2000 7 December 2020 10: 31
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                    Don't tell me what to do and I won't tell you where to go. If you catch it, put it in the basement - you will be able to command, but for now, a purely defensive reaction is visible - the interlocutor says what you don't like, it means he is an enemy.
                    1. Egor-dis
                      Egor-dis 7 December 2020 12: 45
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                      I don’t want to communicate with you because it’s useless. You have not refuted a single argument, you have not answered a single question. You, like an ass-d..r..k, just repeat, over and over again, mantras from the manual. All your answers are just flooding. Calling you a Ukronazist, I got excited. You are just an unemployed shkolota who got a freelance job for 50 kopecks per post. You're not interesting anymore.
                    2. Mikle2000
                      Mikle2000 7 December 2020 14: 07
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                      Well, go fight for ankle boots of the right size, hide from the commandant's officers who pinch you for a non-statutory uniform, poke an extra horn with cartridges, drink vodka with curators for whom you are cannon fodder - they themselves do not go under bullets. What an interesting exciting life. It is unlikely that mine will seem interesting to you - sheer boredom.
                      In general, thank you for the communication, completed it and scattered everyone to live their own life