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NI points out how Azerbaijan can pay for the victory in Karabakh

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NI points out how Azerbaijan can pay for the victory in Karabakh

The victory won in Nagorno-Karabakh will be too expensive for Azerbaijan. Ilham Aliyev exchanged the newly acquired territories for the independence of the republic, writes The National Interest.


According to the American publication, in order to strengthen his personal power and guarantee its transfer to his wife and son, Aliyev sold the Azerbaijani sovereignty to Russia and Turkey. The result of the war ended was the deployment of Russian troops on the territory of Azerbaijan, which theoretically and practically ensure the ceasefire regime. However, writes NI, the return of the Russian army to the region has been an old dream of Moscow. According to the publication, Putin seeks to bring all the former Soviet republics under his rule.

Aliyev forgot that Russian troops enter quickly but rarely leave

- writes NI.

The second factor is the Turks, who are also unlikely to leave the territory of Azerbaijan. If the goal of Azerbaijan in the last war was the return of the territory of Nagorno-Karabakh, then the goal of the Turks, who provided comprehensive assistance to Baku, is the construction of a great empire, which should include all countries from Azerbaijan to Turkmenistan. Erdogan has long been nurturing pan-Turkic designs, striving for cultural, economic and political rapprochement with Azerbaijan and the Turkic states of Central Asia.

Aliyev may see Erdogan as his friend, but Erdogan himself considers Aliyev just a means to achieve his own goals

- the authors of the article say.

For the first time Azerbaijan gained independence in 1918, but two years later it lost it, becoming part of the USSR for many years. The independence of Azerbaijan was declared for the second time in 1991. However, this period of independence can end rather quickly, since there are foreign troops on the territory of the republic.

But when the days of dizzying happiness from victory are a thing of the past, they will understand that this is the beginning of the end of true Azerbaijani independence, followed by the subordination of the country to Russian and Turkish rule.

- sums up NI.
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  1. Terrible_L.
    Terrible_L. 2 December 2020 12: 24
    +16
    According to the American publication, in order to strengthen his personal power and guarantee its transfer to his wife and son, Aliyev sold the Azerbaijani sovereignty to Russia and Turkey.

    Because of the hillock, it is certainly more visible. Moreover, the states were out of work ... sadness wassat
    1. Orange bigg
      Orange bigg 2 December 2020 12: 27
      +11
      According to the American publication, in order to strengthen his personal power and guarantee its transfer to his wife and son, Aliyev sold the Azerbaijani sovereignty to Russia and Turkey.

      Aliyev "sold" the sovereignty of Azerbaijan to the wrong people, and those to whom he did not sell and are indignant about this. They threaten. They did not allow the West to take over Azerbaijan's oil and gas.
      1. credo
        credo 2 December 2020 12: 45
        +9
        Quote: OrangeBigg
        Aliyev forgot that Russian troops enter quickly but rarely leave

        - writes NI.

        In literary Russian - "Whose cow would moo."
        1. Tatyana
          Tatyana 2 December 2020 13: 01
          +3
          In principle, no "America" ​​was opened in Washington with regard to Aliyev, Azerbaijanis and Azerbaijan. This is not new.
          Nevertheless, US propagandists are trying to knock Turkey off the Russian Federation on the PROXY territory of Azerbaijan, replacing Aliyev's rule in the country with their own man.
          You still need to remember and understand that Turkey is a NATO member and there is still influence on Turkey and on Erdogan from the West.

          At the same time, the countries neighboring Russia are buffer countries for Russia from NATO countries. And in this regard, the Pentagon is not interested in the presence of Russian peacekeeping troops - i.e. the troops of a country that needs peace in these countries and there would be no war.
          1. lopuhan2006
            lopuhan2006 2 December 2020 13: 47
            +4
            Exactly! The ideal for the United States is Syria in every country around Russia. The ideal for Aliyev to continue the dynasty of the Aliyev rulers, and this is maneuvering between Russia and Turkey. The ideal for Russia is at least not to lose influence on Azerbaijan. Ideal for Turkey to continue eastward. On the face of the interest of all parties, except Armenia (her fault). And today everyone is happy with how it turned out, except for Armenia, Geyropa and the USA.
            Pysy: Russia increased its presence, Azerbaijan got its territory back, Turkey gained access to the rest of the Pan-Turkic world, Europa is again in flight, the USA flew through the most important things,
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        3. Kent0001
          Kent0001 6 December 2020 09: 08
          0
          I agree. Germany and Japan are still under external amerovsky control and de facto accupation.
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      3. 210ox
        210ox 3 December 2020 07: 10
        +3
        Who cares about sovereignty now? There are one or two sovereign countries in the world.
        1. vanNormayenn
          vanNormayenn 5 December 2020 20: 11
          +1
          Right.
          Absolutely sovereign countries can be counted on one hand.
          Most countries are ready or forced to sacrifice some of their sovereignty for the sake of security and material well-being.
    2. private person
      private person 2 December 2020 12: 30
      +4
      Moreover, the states were out of work ... sadness

      The elections have passed, now these same states will quickly catch up on lost time in the wrong place elsewhere. Here, by the way, a suitable option looms in Pridnestrovie.
    3. Alex777
      Alex777 2 December 2020 12: 45
      +3
      Because of the hillock, it is certainly more visible.

      How much is Aliyev to the level of understanding of the American observer. laughing
      How can he assess the situation and make the right decision?
      They are exceptional. Without them, Turkey and the Russian Federation will grab everything for themselves. bully
    4. antivirus
      antivirus 2 December 2020 13: 06
      +1
      you have to pay for everything in the world - let everyone pay.
      Russia also pays for the maintenance of the Army ... it must be used for its intended purpose.
      bend your line, Vovka.
    5. Vladimir Mashkov
      Vladimir Mashkov 2 December 2020 20: 25
      +2
      Quote: Scary_L.
      Because of the hillock, it is certainly more visible. Moreover, the states were out of work ... sadness

      Quite right! Busy with the electoral struggle, the Americans flew over Karabakh and missed it! And now - after seeing and calculating the consequences - they only have to annoy and try to inflate the contradictions of the participants, setting them against each other. Which is what they started to do.
      1. 210ox
        210ox 3 December 2020 07: 20
        +1
        So the States, too, can hardly be called a sovereign country. Despite all the economic power, a large group of people inside the country sagged under another, still smaller group, but aggressive. They do not have their own internal policy. This also applies to us.
    6. RealPilot
      RealPilot 3 December 2020 09: 36
      +2
      Aliyev forgot that Russian troops enter quickly but rarely leave

      - writes NI.

      Somehow the American "partners" have poor memory, or it is very selective ...
      We "for the sake of peace and friendship" left from everywhere, even our own country (the fragments of which we are talking about) were dismantled in parts so that they would like it!

      Although, of course, it is clear: they need the Russian army to leave from everywhere, and from Russia too - into oblivion ... They will not wait!
  2. cniza
    cniza 2 December 2020 12: 25
    +6
    Aliyev forgot that Russian troops enter quickly but rarely leave


    Who is he talking about? About the United States, yes, but where is Russia the ox and stayed for a long time, after completing the task ...
    1. Doliva63
      Doliva63 2 December 2020 15: 33
      +2
      Quote: cniza
      Aliyev forgot that Russian troops enter quickly but rarely leave


      Who is he talking about? About the United States, yes, but where is Russia the ox and stayed for a long time, after completing the task ...

      Crap for the sake of a word of mouth, no more.
  3. Hunter 2
    Hunter 2 2 December 2020 12: 26
    +1
    Yeah ... well, now it's rushed! Adherents of the Victory of the Turks - to the right, of the Victory of Russia - to the left ... we argue discuss we exchange pluses and minuses laughing
    Just don't forget, NI is a semi-yellow edition (I didn't expect such an article from them).
    1. Orange bigg
      Orange bigg 2 December 2020 12: 30
      +7
      Victory has many fathers, defeat is always an orphan. Whoever won is in Karabakh, although only Azerbaijan and Armenia fought.
      1. Grif
        Grif 6 December 2020 21: 22
        0
        It is often not those who fight that win.
  4. silberwolf88
    silberwolf88 2 December 2020 12: 27
    +13
    Such a vile and despicable article ... they try, as usual, after a defeat in a geopolitical operation ... to lay seeds of discord for new conflicts ... this article is like a mirror of any Anglo-Saxon policy in the World
    1. 9PA
      9PA 4 December 2020 08: 54
      0
      Well, where is the author wrong? Was this Karabakh worth Azerbaijan?
      1. silberwolf88
        silberwolf88 4 December 2020 09: 28
        0
        earth is higher than blood ... otherwise the people have no land ...
  5. Daniil Konovalenko
    Daniil Konovalenko 2 December 2020 12: 33
    +2
    "Bolivar can not stand two" (c)
  6. Keyser soze
    Keyser soze 2 December 2020 12: 39
    -2
    Turks rule in Azerbaijan, their troops are there, they command the Azeri army, economy, etc. But the benefit of Russia is something that is not visible. In the meantime, the Turks have already begun joint training at the Kon's air base, with the British. Teach them to counteract the C400 complexes.

    On November 16, a joint exercise of British Typhoon fighters and Turkish F-16s began at the Turkish Konya airbase. According to Turkish sources, the program includes: training the British in strikes on the S-400 air defense system in particular and the tasks of breaking through and suppressing air defense in general, interaction with unmanned aircraft

    Source - Bulgarianmilitary.com

    This means that the results of training and counteractions of the C400 are already in Washington and somewhere else. Here is the result of the Russian multi-move ...
    1. Uncle lee
      Uncle lee 2 December 2020 12: 56
      0
      Quote: Keyser Soze
      Here is the result of the Russian multi-move ...

      I was totally against the sale of the S-400 to Turkey! But Putin did not listen to me ... what
      1. Keyser soze
        Keyser soze 2 December 2020 13: 00
        +1
        I was totally against the sale of the S-400 to Turkey! But Putin did not listen to me ...


        And it’s in vain he didn’t listen to you. For several billions, from the Turks (borrowed from the Russians), the United States got the opportunity to see what is C 400. Maybe the Turks will have time to "buy off" their F35 program, for such services - we'll see. drinks
        1. Uncle lee
          Uncle lee 2 December 2020 13: 03
          -2
          Quote: Keyser Soze
          for similar services

          So it was planned by the Turks!
    2. antivirus
      antivirus 2 December 2020 13: 08
      0
      the multimode must continue - to swing the partners before entering the resonance, as they are trying to us.
      the road will be overpowered.
      1. Uncle lee
        Uncle lee 2 December 2020 13: 54
        +1
        Everything for sale: S-400, gold, state secrets, Motherland ...
        1. antivirus
          antivirus 2 December 2020 14: 05
          +1
          everything has a price .... and people's lives ... and the Motherland.
          and birches by the pond, the pond itself, crucians (ratans) in it. etc
          1. Uncle lee
            Uncle lee 2 December 2020 14: 09
            +2
            When life is laid for the Motherland, this is a feat of arms, and when it is sold in bulk and in parts (birch, pond, crucian carp), this is already a betrayal.
    3. Tank hard
      Tank hard 2 December 2020 16: 51
      +4
      Quote: Keyser Soze
      But the benefit of Russia is something that is not visible.

      Why did some Bulgarians again “worry” about the benefit of Russia? And, yes, Turkey, after all ... Which is NATO, which gets in everywhere, which wants to return to the borders of the High Port, which is already looking towards Greece ... Why are these some citizens of NATO Bulgaria so worried? After all, a whole NATO led by the United States is behind them, and the United States does not abandon its own. So the Kurds were not abandoned, the Armenians were not abandoned, and the Greeks were hardly abandoned. And the Bulgarians will not be abandoned, probably repeat So far, everything is fine with the Bulgarians, but they cannot sleep, they are worried about Russia ... Brothers ... laughing
    4. vitvit123
      vitvit123 2 December 2020 19: 24
      +1
      Reading your comments, it seems that you are a GENIUS !!! After all, no one could have imagined such a development of events, let alone ordinary people, even in the Kremlin they could not calculate it, generals, academicians of various general staff, analysts, the development of this system, etc. etc. , I generally keep quiet about Putin, for a long time no one thinks about him
      , empty place . Only a genius ...
  7. Baloo
    Baloo 2 December 2020 12: 40
    +2
    Aliyev may see Erdogan as his friend, but Erdogan himself considers Aliyev just a means to achieve his own goals

    Erdogan already had one close friend - the President of Syria. We still see the consequences of friendship with the geopolitical gopnik.
    1. zlinn
      zlinn 2 December 2020 12: 59
      +1
      when is that? can I get more details?
  8. Doccor18
    Doccor18 2 December 2020 12: 41
    0
    But when the days of dizzying happiness from victory are a thing of the past, they will understand that this is the beginning of the end of true Azerbaijani independence, followed by the subordination of the country ...

    Not devoid of logic ...
  9. Basarev
    Basarev 2 December 2020 12: 43
    0
    China also has plans for Central Asia. Eh, to play off China and Turkey ... Let the Turks solve the Chinese demographic issue, since the Chinese themselves cannot. But they can make Turkey backward and impoverished, which, in general, plays into our hands.
    1. Doccor18
      Doccor18 2 December 2020 13: 52
      0
      The Chinese work quietly, unhurriedly, reasonably. Business, construction, mining, trade, loans ... bam, and a new rule of the heavens ...
      And the Turks are rude, with the help of the army and mercenaries.
      If the plans of these "empires" intersect, then the PLA will show the right path for the "Turkish tourists" ...
  10. HAM
    HAM 2 December 2020 12: 54
    +2
    ".... Aliyev forgot that Russian troops enter quickly, but rarely leave ...."

    Look who's Talking! Japan, Germany, Afghanistan and others, others ---- only "under protection", this is not an occupation .... laughing
    1. Lionnvrsk
      Lionnvrsk 2 December 2020 13: 26
      +3
      Quote: HAM
      Japan, Germany, Afghanistan and others, others ---- only "under protection", this is not an occupation ....

      You forgot Panama! There was definitely a "defense of democracy" there! lol
  11. Alexander Sosnitsky
    Alexander Sosnitsky 2 December 2020 12: 57
    +2
    Russia has a lot of its territory, it is only important that the neighbors are friendly. Russia left wherever it came. And if it does not leave, then there is a reason for this. All modern wars I know were imposed on her from the outside. Moreover, each person should be free, like his people and country. Russia had neither Chinese nor Indian, nor Indian, nor African, nor other campaigns. So the appeal to the wrong address, uv. NI. Look for yourself.
  12. APASUS
    APASUS 2 December 2020 12: 58
    +2
    Russian troops do not claim to seize power in Azerbaijan and are sufficiently represented in the Caucasus, by a military base in Armenia. But the role of the Turkish troops .......................?
  13. Alsur
    Alsur 2 December 2020 12: 59
    +3
    According to the article's conclusions, Germany has not had sovereignty since 1945. Since American troops have been deployed since that time, this is probably correct. The Americans are also in no hurry to withdraw their troops, there is only talk of a withdrawal.
  14. maiman61
    maiman61 2 December 2020 13: 17
    +2
    Americans are definitely crazy! Azerbaijan has liberated its occupied territories! The same thing, if the United States occupied 20% of the territory, they liberated them, and some stupid star-striped man would say that the United States will pay for the liberation of its territories! They don't like that Russia has appeared there! What if star-striped shit came out, would it be nice?
  15. nnz226
    nnz226 2 December 2020 13: 26
    0
    No matter how Azerbaijan becomes a place of collision between Russia and Turkey ...
  16. Ros 56
    Ros 56 2 December 2020 13: 46
    -1
    I don’t remember that the Azerbaijanis in the USSR were very sad about this. Well, if only mossy Natsiks.
  17. cosmonaut
    cosmonaut 2 December 2020 13: 56
    +1
    humorists in this NI. well or arrogant
  18. Borz
    Borz 2 December 2020 13: 58
    0
    Aliyev forgot that Russian troops enter quickly but rarely leave


    Could someone remind me where the Americans left? Is there a country whose territory the American soldiers left of their own free will?
  19. tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 2 December 2020 14: 02
    0
    For the first time Azerbaijan gained independence in 1918, but two years later it lost it, becoming part of the USSR for many years.
    In the 20th century, not a single small state and limitrophe could be independent. As the Faroese say, "The language is Faroese, the flag is Faroese, but the king and the money are Danish."
  20. zwlad
    zwlad 2 December 2020 14: 07
    +1
    It is interesting whether the "partners" will let Erdogan devour Azerbaijan or not.
    It seems to me that they will.
  21. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 2 December 2020 14: 14
    -1
    There is a theory according to which we all live in a post-industrial information society, the main value and resource of which is knowledge and information, information that rules the world. Is it so? I propose to consider the value of information in the modern world using the following example: Some time ago the following text appeared on the Internet: https://yvision.kz/post/882646. In this text, the person (for convenience, we will call him "Armenian Snowden") assures that he is giving publicity to Mr. Pashinyan's second letter to the NATO Secretary General, in which he describes his future plans. It would seem that another fake, not worthy of attention. But the Armenian Snowden assures that this letter is genuine, exactly the same as the letter of Pashinyan, leaked on the Internet last summer (https://ru.armeniasputnik.am/politics/20190703/19450308/Feykovoe- pismo-Pashinyana- genseku-NATO-o-sdache-Karabakha - otsenka-ekspertov-i-vedomstv.html). Naturally, the Armenian leadership then rushed to declare (and still declares) that this letter was fake, that Pashinyan did not write it, and that all this was a hoax. But a year and a half passed and everything that was described in the letter happened - Pashinyan, as a result of losing the war with Azerbaijan (the war should have been started by the Azerbaijani side), surrendered part of the territory of Nagorno-Karabakh. This can serve as proof that the letter is genuine. In my opinion, this can also serve as proof that Pashinyan is not an independent politician who takes some kind of independent action.
  22. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 2 December 2020 14: 17
    -1
    Russia ranks first in the list of Armenia's enemies (https://www.rosbalt.ru/world/2020/11/16/1873119.html)
    1. Petrik66
      Petrik66 2 December 2020 16: 14
      0
      Usually they ask those who won the warrior, and the one who leaked all the units yells loudest (like a robbed Jew at the fair) and talks about 1. he was betrayed, 2. another couple of days and we would have given them that if they had us caught up. 3. writes a vengeance list. and then there are those who are led to this.
  23. Hello from Baku
    Hello from Baku 2 December 2020 14: 41
    +2
    Quote: Ros 56
    I don’t remember that the Azerbaijanis in the USSR were very sad about this. Well, if only mossy Natsiks.

    Chronology of the parade of sovereignties of the republics of the USSR. Azerbaijan was the last to declare its independence.
    The collapse of the USSR in the tables:
    Union republic Declaration of sovereignty Declaration of independence Independence de jure
    Estonian SSR November 16, 1988 August 20, 1991 [1] September 6, 1991 ***
    Latvian SSR July 28, 1989 August 21, 1991 [1]
    Lithuanian SSR April 18, 1989 March 11, 1990 [1]
    Georgian SSR May 26, 1990 April 9, 1991 [2] December 26, 1991 [3]
    RSFSR June 12, 1990 * - [3]
    Moldavian SSR June 23, 1990 August 27, 1991
    Ukrainian SSR July 16, 1990 August 24, 1991 [3]
    Byelorussian SSR July 27, 1990 ** - [3]
    Turkmen SSR August 22, 1990 October 27, 1991
    Armenian SSR August 24, 1990 September 23, 1991 [2]
    Tajik SSR August 24, 1990 September 9, 1991
    Kirghiz SSR December 15, 1990 August 31, 1991
    Kazakh SSR October 25, 1990 December 16, 1991
    Uzbek SSR June 20, 1990 August 31, 1991
    Azerbaijan SSR October 18, 1991 August 30, 1991 [2]

    A source:
    https://sovtime.ru/history/raspad-sssr
    1. Petrik66
      Petrik66 2 December 2020 16: 17
      0
      When, a year before, at your request for a divorce and other crap, the Red Army and the summoned Rostov miners come to visit you, you also first look around so that this gesheft does not happen again.
    2. businessv
      businessv 3 December 2020 20: 18
      0
      Quote: Greetings from Baku
      Azerbaijan was the last to declare its independence.

      Baku was one of the most international, beautiful and advanced cities of the Union!
  24. Shadow041
    Shadow041 2 December 2020 15: 37
    +2
    In other words, the American publication openly says that the country on whose territory foreign military bases are located has no sovereignty. There is something to think about for the countries where the US military bases are located!
  25. Petrik66
    Petrik66 2 December 2020 16: 06
    +1
    According to the NI, anything other than Anglo-Saxon protection is a vicious and unacceptable practice. This is our cow and we milk it. Hello Dukalis.
  26. Poseidon
    Poseidon 2 December 2020 17: 41
    -5
    Ilham Aliyev exchanged the newly acquired territories for the independence of the republic, writes The National Interest.

    And he writes very correctly! Azerbaijan and Armenia were played by Russia and Turkey, etc. ..Although there is a third "quiet player" in Armenia, who did not realize all his plans in "the person of his protege" Pashinyan .. You need to be on your guard, blood will still be spilled there. hi
    PS Everything will become clear when Iran is at stake, but not Russia, etc.
  27. Petr Vladimirovich
    Petr Vladimirovich 2 December 2020 20: 30
    0
    Nothing! In less than a year, Turkey will restore a 90 km one-track railroad along the Armenian coast of the Araks and drive trains with tanks to Baku. You can, of course, now through Georgia, but it's shorter, and most importantly, more interesting ...)))
  28. FC Rostov
    FC Rostov 3 December 2020 05: 00
    +1
    Rather, the union would come. And then got all this really.
  29. businessv
    businessv 3 December 2020 20: 15
    0
    For the first time Azerbaijan gained independence in 1918, but two years later it lost it, becoming part of the USSR for many years.
    Apparently the author has forgotten that before 1918 the Azerbaijanis had no statehood, like the state itself !? And I also liked the offer
    Aliyev forgot that Russian troops enter quickly but rarely leave
    "Stop the thief" the thief himself shouts loudest! Should the Americans talk about which troops rarely leave? Now their troops are already in all of Europe, while the states themselves are on another continent!
  30. antikilller55
    antikilller55 4 December 2020 10: 11
    0
    It’s too late to bite our elbows, the Americans have missed the Azeri.
    1. vanNormayenn
      vanNormayenn 5 December 2020 20: 27
      0
      Instead of dancing to the tune of the Armenian diaspora, the Americans had to support Azerbaijan and, as a result, strengthen their influence in the strategically important region for them. This is exactly what Russia, Turkey and Israel did.
  31. Flavius
    Flavius 6 December 2020 17: 25
    0
    Quote: OrangeBigg
    They did not let the West get their hands on the oil and gas of Azerbaijan.

    Oil and gas remained in their hands. Nothing has changed there. Oil in Baku is controlled by London and Israel.